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Chuck & Buck 2-16 Hour 2: Jerry Dipoto, gearing up for the new challenge system and more! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: A president joining us now.
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto is with us live here at spring training.
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  Speaker 1: Great to see you.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 4: It's a joy. It's a joy, beautiful weather. We've been
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  Speaker 4: down here a week now and the guys showed out.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's spring training is a fun time.
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  Speaker 2: It is here, It is here, and it just seems
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  Speaker 2: to me I started the show with us today. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading into it because of the close of last
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  Speaker 2: year and the excitement of the offseason and everything else,
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  Speaker 2: but it feels like there's a little different air. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like, hey, we got to trace down those astros.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like we're the team to beat. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: confidence around here. Would you agree with that?
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  Speaker 4: I would agree with that, you know, without trying to
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  Speaker 4: get a little over the top.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, our guys are confident. We know we have
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  Speaker 4: a good team, and we experienced a lot of things
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  Speaker 4: last year. We came up a couple out shorts of
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  Speaker 4: going to the World Series and and and that gave
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  Speaker 4: our guys that the confidence necessary to believe that we
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  Speaker 4: can go out there and and really run it. It's
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  Speaker 4: a we have we have stars, we have personalities, we
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  Speaker 4: have depth, we have pitching. Yeah, it's a there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of things that we're doing right now, and I
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  Speaker 4: think the league around us is noticing. I think generally speaking,
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  Speaker 4: we we go in with a pretty favorable outlook on
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 5: Every single player. And I'm sure you carry this even
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  Speaker 5: up to being you know, general manager and now print
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  Speaker 5: you know president. I mean, the the idea of you
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  Speaker 5: have to always be improving. You not getting as good
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  Speaker 5: as you guys got last year, not good enough, you
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  Speaker 5: want it, You have somewhere you need to go. So
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  Speaker 5: overarching thoughts on what it was you were wanting to
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  Speaker 5: do to improve the squad.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we had three big things we wanted to address,
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  Speaker 4: and we hit them while we were going into the
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  Speaker 4: off season. The number one was bringing back Josh Naylor.
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  Speaker 4: You know, uh he cooperated and that happened, you know,
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  Speaker 4: early in the off season, which really, you know, made
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  Speaker 4: our off season possible because it's if we were waiting
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  Speaker 4: all off season long to see how that turned out,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of doors could potentially close. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, it worked out to our advantage. And and
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  Speaker 4: Nails is here for the next five years at least,
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  Speaker 4: and and and really has been from the day. We
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  Speaker 4: acquired him through the start of this camp just a
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  Speaker 4: it's a I hate to use something as simple as
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  Speaker 4: just a shot in the arm. He just lifts everybody up.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's smart, he's he's thoughtful, he's a great teammate,
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  Speaker 4: an excellent player. So that was number one. Number two
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  Speaker 4: was adding impact at the back end of our bullpen.
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  Speaker 4: And we feel like we did that with the acquisition
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  Speaker 4: of Jose Ferrer from Washington and obviously cost us a
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  Speaker 4: prospect that we held in pretty high regard. But des
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  Speaker 4: was sink and slide and he's got an above average
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  Speaker 4: change up and and I feel like with Gabe Spy
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  Speaker 4: or Matt Brash, Andre's Munoz Edward Bizardo really gives us
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  Speaker 4: that type of back end that you see in championship teams,
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  Speaker 4: which was a goal. And then we wanted to add
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  Speaker 4: that one more back to lengthen the lineup, and and
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  Speaker 4: that one took a while.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It was someone said to me man the off season Flew.
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  Speaker 4: I said, yeah, unless you were sitting waiting for the
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals to trade us Brendan Donovan.
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  Speaker 1: But that was stretched out for a little while.
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  Speaker 4: It took a while, but you know, Ultimately we landed
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  Speaker 4: the guy that we had our eyes set on the
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  Speaker 4: whole time, and and here in the early going in
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  Speaker 4: spring training, it's it's been worth the wait. He's he's
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  Speaker 4: everything we thought he would be from a makeup emotional
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's an energy, just a quality player who's
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  Speaker 4: a pro and goes about his business the right way.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you envision for him and where he
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  Speaker 2: plays on the field that.
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  Speaker 4: You know in Brendan's case, and I talked to him
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  Speaker 4: about this the day we acquired him. You know, we
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  Speaker 4: we want his focus when he's coming into spring training
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  Speaker 4: to be third base. It's a position he has played
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  Speaker 4: a fair bit in his career, but not in recent
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  Speaker 4: years because he was playing with Nolan Aaronauto And I
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  Speaker 4: guess when you're playing with a Hall of Famer, you
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  Speaker 4: don't get the reps. Yeah, but you know Brendan is
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  Speaker 4: he is like the super Swiss army knife defender who
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  Speaker 4: can do just about anything defensive on a field. He's
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  Speaker 4: played everywhere. You know, we're not going to ask him
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  Speaker 4: to pitch, catch or play center. But it's right now
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  Speaker 4: we're viewing him as as the likely opening day third
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  Speaker 4: baseman and one of the reasons why Brendan was such
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  Speaker 4: an appealing target for us in the off season is
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  Speaker 4: because of his versatility. It allowed our young players to
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  Speaker 4: continue to grow and their growth, their ascent to the
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  Speaker 4: big leagues isn't hindered by someone blocking them. It's Brendan
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  Speaker 4: could just go be a good player and move around
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  Speaker 4: the diamond in ways, even if it's playing a different
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  Speaker 4: position every day, so that leaves the door open for
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  Speaker 4: us to take the big step forward. Brendan makes us
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  Speaker 4: a better, more stable team the day he shows up,
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  Speaker 4: but our real growth comes from the young players taking
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  Speaker 4: steps forward, and that's not hindered by adding Donovant.
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  Speaker 1: So then how does that handicap?
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  Speaker 4: I guess if I were betting in Vegas. Coley Young
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  Speaker 4: did good things for us in middle of the summer
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  Speaker 4: last year. There was a four or five week stretch
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  Speaker 4: where he played about as good an offensive you know,
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  Speaker 4: second base, as you can play. He was among the
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  Speaker 4: four or five best hitters at his position in the league,
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  Speaker 4: and toward the end he took on a little water,
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  Speaker 4: he got tired. Obviously, we left him off the postseason
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  Speaker 4: roster in favor of Polanco, who was swinging a hot bat,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah it's Cole Young is a good young player.
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  Speaker 4: He's twenty two years old. You can tell he took
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  Speaker 4: his offseason very seriously. He comes in as the favorite
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  Speaker 4: if I were im betting man. But there are a
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  Speaker 4: lot of good players in this camp, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: all age twenty two or younger. Cole Young, I mentioned
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  Speaker 4: Michael Arroyo and obviously Colt Emerson. We're getting Michael some
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  Speaker 4: reps at third base. Colt Emerson is taking some reps
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  Speaker 4: at third base. He's played both shortstop and second base. Again,
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  Speaker 4: versatility's the key.
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  Speaker 5: You're talking about Cole Young and how he obviously took
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  Speaker 5: the offseason seriously. How about Colt Emerson. Donovan could be
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  Speaker 5: a guy that could play second if he plays third base.
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  Speaker 5: So how's he looking into the beginning of the camp
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  Speaker 5: like he always looks. He takes everything seriously. You know,
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  Speaker 5: cult works hard, he is. He's an incredibly mature player.
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  Speaker 5: You'd never know if sitting down that he is twenty
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  Speaker 5: years old and has you know, played sparingly above double A.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the quality of what he brings in
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  Speaker 5: every faster of the game. He hits all the boxes,
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  Speaker 5: he runs a little bit, he throws, he plays defense,
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  Speaker 5: he's versatile, he hits, he gets on base, he's got
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  Speaker 5: some power. Uh he's and he's young and he picks
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  Speaker 5: it up pretty quickly. So, you know, we've generally been
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  Speaker 5: of the mindset, and this has been a number of
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  Speaker 5: years now when guys come in and they're ready to
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  Speaker 5: do their thing, and we think they have a chance
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  Speaker 5: to be difference making players. We just don't get in
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  Speaker 5: their way. Give them, give them the opportunity to go
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  Speaker 5: do what they do. You know, and I say that
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  Speaker 5: there's some depth on this team that hasn't existed in
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  Speaker 5: years past. And we go in as the defending AO
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  Speaker 5: West champs, we do have World Series aspirations, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna have to get it done in order to
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  Speaker 5: make your way onto the team. And Colt as both
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  Speaker 5: the skill and the focus to make that happen.
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  Speaker 2: For our audience's purpose, because I think even you and
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  Speaker 2: Justin and others are struggling with this. How excited should
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  Speaker 2: they be about Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan and how
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  Speaker 2: much do we need to limit our excitement for these
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  Speaker 2: two players.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to limit the excitement, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not one to limit excitement. And you know, as
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  Speaker 4: these these last couple of days, as they've thrown their lives,
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  Speaker 4: first time throwing live two hitters in a major league camp.
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  Speaker 4: Both of them have thrown lives in Shove camp in
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  Speaker 4: January headed into early February, but this was the first
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  Speaker 4: time to see them throw against major league hitters. They
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  Speaker 4: didn't throw against invites or minor league free agents. They
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  Speaker 4: threw against guys who played in All Star Games last
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  Speaker 4: year and they stood out, which is hard to do
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  Speaker 4: in a camp that has this kind of talent. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'll start with Kate Anderson because he threw first.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously the thing I'll hit with Cad. We just got
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  Speaker 4: to incredibly lucky that they picked our ping pong ball,
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  Speaker 4: Lucky that somebody pick the ball the best pitcher in
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  Speaker 4: the country at LSU as an amateur coming out. It
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  Speaker 4: was as polished as you're going to see, not just
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  Speaker 4: what he does on the mound, but who he is
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  Speaker 4: as a person. His work, habits, his focus, seemed like
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  Speaker 4: a guy that probably wasn't going to stay in the
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  Speaker 4: minor leagues for very long. And that's the feel you
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  Speaker 4: get when you watch him.
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  Speaker 3: Pitch.
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  Speaker 4: There's it's certainly not a guy that's likely to spend
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  Speaker 4: much time at the low levels of the minor leagues.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, it's so sharp. It's all the pitches.
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  Speaker 4: It's the precision as fastball gets up to ninety six
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  Speaker 4: ninety seven, sits around ninety three ninety four and has
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  Speaker 4: a finish to it that you just don't normally see.
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  Speaker 4: And the special part about kid is the command that
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  Speaker 4: he has of his secondary pitches. He's got them all.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, he looks like he could pitch in
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  Speaker 4: the Atlanta Braves rotation in the nineties and you wouldn't blink.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan Sloan through yesterday. Ryan he's young. He looks like
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  Speaker 4: he's twelve, and he throws like he's been in the
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  Speaker 4: big leagues for ten years. You know, it's it's he's big,
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  Speaker 4: he's physical. His first lives, he was ninety seven and
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  Speaker 4: ninety nine with explosive fastball. He threw a two seamer
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  Speaker 4: that we hadn't really seen before that that again, explosive
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  Speaker 4: is the only word I can use. A slider that
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  Speaker 4: makes you buckle, It's uh. Both of these guys have
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  Speaker 4: the all of the ingredients to pitch at the front
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  Speaker 4: of major league rotations, and you know they're they're twenty
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  Speaker 4: and twenty one years old. It shouldn't take very long
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  Speaker 4: for them to come.
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  Speaker 1: But they got.
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  Speaker 4: Like we talked about with Colt and the depth that
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  Speaker 4: we have around the field, we got five pretty good
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  Speaker 4: starters in the big leagues too, which is a good
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  Speaker 4: problem to have.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever see Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome? Remember that movie?
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  Speaker 2: I remember that there was Highlight, there was Master Blaster,
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  Speaker 2: and there was this and that's what Ryan Sloan reminds
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  Speaker 2: me of because from across the field, Master Blaster, Blaster, well,
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  Speaker 2: Master was the mind behind it. And then Blaster was
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  Speaker 2: this like the Mountain kind of Hulk figure, and you
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  Speaker 2: show him from it and everybody was afraid of him.
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  Speaker 2: And then he took off his mask and he was
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  Speaker 2: just a child. He had this baby face like he's
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  Speaker 2: just a child, don't hurt him. And when Sloan walked up,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you look like you're ten years old with
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  Speaker 2: a bottack up. Yeah, well, and you look like the
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  Speaker 2: Mountain from the neck down.
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  Speaker 3: Together he does have that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's when you I'm not the greatest scout
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  Speaker 4: in the history of the world. But I've done it
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  Speaker 4: for long enough to know that, you know, the easiest
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  Speaker 4: thing to identify his physicality and Ryan Sloane from eighteen
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  Speaker 4: years old when we first scouted him, had all the
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  Speaker 4: physical attributes of a front end major league starter. What
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  Speaker 4: we didn't really expect until we got to know him
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  Speaker 4: a little bit was how well put together he is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, mentally, emotionally he's he's resilient. I think he
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  Speaker 4: has the right balance of ready to learn and I've
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  Speaker 4: got this and which is a really nice combo.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, in case you were wondering, it's pretty
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  Speaker 5: obvious to see the pride and the happiness like exude
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  Speaker 5: out of you, ooze out of you almost when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to you talking about young pitchers, that's pretty obvious
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  Speaker 5: you were a pitcher at one point in time. When
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  Speaker 5: it comes to makeup, I mean, I don't know for
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  Speaker 5: sure if these young guys that you have have more
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  Speaker 5: of a guy to look up to than cal Rawly.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we were talking earlier on our show today
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  Speaker 5: just about cal Rowly and what expectations would be. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you hit sixty homers. You know, he's asking what do
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  Speaker 5: we think an eighty one hundred. I mean, while I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to put any limitations on the guy, the
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  Speaker 5: makeup of this guy, I mean, it almost feels like
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  Speaker 5: he's one that could repeat spectacular historic season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be hard for me to expect any
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  Speaker 4: more than sixty one, you know, but I say this
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  Speaker 4: about Cal like there's I don't know that you can
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  Speaker 4: really put a put a bar on what he can achieve.
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  Speaker 4: We saw that last year. What he accomplished last year
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  Speaker 4: is so much more than we could have expected the
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  Speaker 4: day we drafted him. As he's come through system. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I've said this jokingly over the course of this offseason.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Cal went from an awesome secret in the
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  Speaker 4: Pacific Northwest, you know, the thirty five homer platinum glove
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  Speaker 4: catcher with great leadership skill who really appeals to to
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  Speaker 4: every man, to being like an international superstar goes by
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  Speaker 4: one name, and you know, it's it's pretty awesome to
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  Speaker 4: watch that development. And I'll say this about the effect
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  Speaker 4: or the impact that it has on our young kids.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it has an effect on the other twenty
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  Speaker 4: five players, regardless of their age. You know, he takes
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  Speaker 4: it so seriously. His focus his intensity, his work, it's
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  Speaker 4: all just come so far. And it's he went from
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  Speaker 4: being you know, a really good you know, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: burgeoning star in our league to becoming a superstar player
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  Speaker 4: in a season. And and I don't think that it
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  Speaker 4: was a one time thing. This is just his skill set.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you've got a switch hitter with power. He
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  Speaker 4: really closed up the platoon hole that he had before.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he was a much better lefty than righty hitter,
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  Speaker 4: and that is no longer true. He's equally as good
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  Speaker 4: from both sides. He controls a run game, he controls
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  Speaker 4: a staff, he's prepared. I could say as many good
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  Speaker 4: things as you want to say. And the quality of
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  Speaker 4: the I guess the example he sets for the young
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  Speaker 4: players is really mirrored by our other major league players.
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  Speaker 4: You know, those young pitchers we talked about. It's a
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  Speaker 4: or Colt Emerson or Cole Young. They have cal they
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  Speaker 4: have Brian Wu, they have Logan Gilbert, they have a
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  Speaker 4: group of players around them. You know that. I think
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  Speaker 4: that they all take pride in passing it on, paying
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  Speaker 4: it forward with those young guys because they live through it.
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  Speaker 4: They grew up in this organization, and I think They
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  Speaker 4: take pride in making sure that the next you know,
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  Speaker 4: iteration of the Mariners, of the next stage of young
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  Speaker 4: player has that same quality when they get their opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: What's a scouting grade in terms of intangibles?
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  Speaker 3: Eighty?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty, And I say that is true of a
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  Speaker 4: couple of our guys. But Cal it's a no brainer Andy, right,
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  Speaker 4: And that was true before before he hit sixty, he
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  Speaker 4: was he had eighty intangibles. Then now he's got eighty
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  Speaker 4: intangibles and ninety power.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto is with us here from spring training. I
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  Speaker 2: do want to get into a couple of other topics.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully we have time to flush these out the challenge
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  Speaker 2: system this year. What's the organizational philosophy on who gets
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  Speaker 2: the challenge? When you get to challenge? Is it just
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  Speaker 2: a couple of players that you're going to give that
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  Speaker 2: to at the plate? How are you going to manage
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  Speaker 2: that as the organization?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody but Randy? Oh yeah, I say that. I say
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  Speaker 4: that to Randy's been you know, Randy's been prone to
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  Speaker 4: in the early morning sessions that you may have seen
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  Speaker 4: with Kate Anderson or Ryan Sloan, you know, and Randy's
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  Speaker 4: been quick to challenge, and he's not always been. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, everybody, you know, just like we do with
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  Speaker 4: with everything, it's a you know, everybody's gonna have the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to to feel it out, to get a sense
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  Speaker 4: for it. My guess is that the older players will
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  Speaker 4: be more likely to tap it than than most, but
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  Speaker 4: I would say that the young players are the ones
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  Speaker 4: who actually have the experience doing it, So you know,
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  Speaker 4: we would encourage those young guys to kind of show
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  Speaker 4: us the way. And it's last spring we had the
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  Speaker 4: first taste of this at the major league level, and unsurprisingly,
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  Speaker 4: our eighty and tangibles guy who we just talked about,
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  Speaker 4: was believing or not one hundred percent on his challenges.
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  Speaker 4: He was always right.
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  Speaker 1: I was wondering, you're ever gonna let a picture do it?
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  Speaker 1: Or he's just gonna let cow.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know why you would let the
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  Speaker 4: picture do it, because the picture and I say this
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  Speaker 4: with the mind or the heart of a picture. I
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  Speaker 4: think every pitch I throw stright, especially you know with
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  Speaker 4: catchers who framed today, and you know Col's catching it
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  Speaker 4: and he has a pretty good sense. I'm sure that
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna have a picture that feels strongly enough about it,
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  Speaker 4: then in the moment decides they're going to challenge. But
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  Speaker 4: I think cal has enough control of the game that
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  Speaker 4: he's more likely to be the one WBC.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: This has been a I know, not everybody loves it,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: especially executives.
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  Speaker 4: I think we have more players going to the WBC
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: than any other organization in baseball, which again I think
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: is a pretty awesome thing. It expresses a way of
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: talent that we're diverse. It's gonna leave a big hole
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: in our camp. You know, Rob Repschneider, who we signed
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: in the offseason. I'm really thrilled to have both in
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: the clubhouse and on the field. Rep said, you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: it's really hard to walk into a new camp and
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: he has seventy five guys. You got to get to know.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I said, yeah, in a couple of days, it's gonna
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: be like fifty.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: But we are.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: We're gonna get hit as hard as anybody generally speaking.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: You just cross your fingers on on health. You know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: guys are going to go and I think right now
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: in the Olympics, if you're watching Olympic hockey, you see
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Kevin Fiala, you know, went down with a leg injury
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: and he's out for the year for the Kings. That's
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: your biggest fear now, I say it at and I
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: flash back to last Springs, Four Nations in hockey, this
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: year's you know, Olympics, the WBC, which comes up every
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: couple of years. There is nothing you can do in
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: preparing for a major league season that that gives you
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: this kind of rush, this kind of competition. It's like
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: playoff and everything that happens is happening at Defcon one,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: and you can't replicate that in spring training. So you
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: just hope that you can get your guys physically prepared
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: to go do it so that you know injury is
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: less a concern because what's happening on the field is
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: so much better in preparing them for what happens in
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: October than anything we can do here.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: What is your response to the statement the Dodgers are
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: ruining baseball.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I just think they're awesome, you know, and where they're deep,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: they have stars everywhere they've done it. Generally speaking, they're
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: good at scouting, they're good at player development, they're good
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: at roster building, and you know, I get it. You know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: it's a their payroll is considerably higher than than just
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: about anybody else in the league. And you know, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: and very much higher than the teams that are outside
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: the top three or four. I say that, and it's
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: it's hard to be to take shots at what they've built.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: And you know, and and the people I think they're smart.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: They've done a good job. They take advantage of the
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: resources they have and the market they work in, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: and and they do what they do. You know, I
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: say that There's always been teams like the Dodgers, you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: in our baseball lives, there's been dominant teams. Sometimes they're
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: big market teams, sometimes they're they're not, but they don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: always win the World Series. And you know, it's a
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: it's part of being consistent over time and showing up
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: and just banging down the door. We feel like we
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: have the ability with the roster we have to go
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: toe to toe with anybody, regardless of the size of
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: their payroll or how many stars they sign.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: What's the what is the benefit?
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: The deferred money part of it is one thing that
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of fans and myself, I'll just say, well,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: makes sense.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: You're you know, when they have to spend two bucks now.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: And we don't, you know, lean into deferred payments. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: guess deferred payments are payments. You know at some point
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: you're going to have to pay that bill. And you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers are one of the very few teams in
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Major League Baseball who have revenue systems where they can
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: reasonably look forward ten, twenty or thirty years and believe,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: all right, we can manage that. You know, if these
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: deferred payments come due at a certain point they're all
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: hitting and you're ten years out and you are the
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: average major league payroll, you can't manage you know, that
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: part of it. And when you look at the what's
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: happening with deferred payments around the league, they have you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: they were trending in the early two thousands. They went
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: away for a reason because they're very hard to manage.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: But you know, there are a number of teams in
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the league that I think believe that they can manage
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: that over the long term. They know their finances better
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: than I do. So I'm not one to throw stones.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I know that's not something that we you feel as
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: realistic an our market. So we'll just try to sign
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: good contracts with players we like and and and do
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: it in a more traditional way.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I got a million other questions for him.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Sure Bucky does as well, but uh, we do appreciate
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: the time. We don't have time to get into all
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of them. I think I just closed with this, what's
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: your man bun policy for Brendan Donovan? Are you saying
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: is are the Mariners pro man bun anti man bun?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: What are we going to do with that? The air
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: of his?
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: You know, we got a couple of man buns and
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: and I'm generally there's I'm open love them all. You know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: we get Teddy McGraw, who's an in house, former draft
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: pick of ours who's in his first major league camp.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: You know, if he lets it down, it's a glorious flow,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: you know. And we've we've dubbed him breaking ball Jesus.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: But you know when they when they pile the the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: man ball up, man bun up. I I do think
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: it's it works for me, okay, because me it gives
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: me the vibe that we are who we are. And
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: you know, I think if I had to pin Brendan
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Donovan and and I've known him for all of a
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, in my life. But if I had
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: to thin Slaice his first week as a Mariner, it
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: is a shocking ability just to come in and be yourself.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: And we've always embraced that, We've expressed it in our culture.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: And if that means you're gonna wear a man bun,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: fire away, all right, all right, I got it. I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: glad we cleared that up today. Thank you very much.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: We appreciate you. Have a great year.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: All right, So Mary to Poto, Executive of the Year
• 21:21
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• 21:26
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• 21:41
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• 21:44
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• 21:46
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• 21:50
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• 21:53
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• 21:56
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• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Powell with you. We just chatted with Jerry Depoto. Certainly
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a lot to react to. I want to start with
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the challenge system, though I can't wait to discuss this.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Topic throughout the course of the week. That was our.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: First voyage into that topic so far during our coverage.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And I love the everybody Can challenge. But Randy Rosary
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: just hilarious. I mean, I think there is going to
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: be a strategy. I think there is going to be
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: all right, We're going to start the season with anybody
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: can challenge except Randy at any time. And I think
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: they're going to start the season it sounds like with
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: only cow can challenge. Why would we go away from
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: somebody with such a command of the strike zone if
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: he's grading out at one hundred percent right when he
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: does practice the challenge system, And so I think that's
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the way it's going to be. But I do believe
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: it's going to be an evolutionary process for all Major
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: League Baseball teams. And I'm not sure they'll have the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: same strategy a month into the season as they do
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: right now at the beginning of spring training. And before
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you respond to that, I probably should just explain they
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: are going to have a ball strike challenging system this
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: year in Major League Baseball. They have adopted it. They're
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: not doing the automatic strike zone to replace the home
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: played umpire, but they are like they've done in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: minor leagues in the past, that you do have an
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: opportunity as a hitter, a catcher, or a pitcher. Nobody
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: else can challenge it. Nobody from the bench, no manager.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Those are the only three people that can challenge a
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: ball or strike call just made by the official. That
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: is going to be a part of the twenty twenty
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: six Major League Baseball season, and it could be wild.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be crazy, and yet I'm here for it.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, usually a lot of times I don't like
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: changes to the game that I love. This is one
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: where there's a bunch of key moments in games where
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: the difference between a two to one pitch turning your
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: count to three to one versus two to two bases
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: loaded bottom of the ninth inning a couple guys on
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: is crazy, and yet it's understandable. There's humans back there.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: We don't go full robot, and so this is kind
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: of a middle ground of saying, Okay, we're gonna give you.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: I think it's three strikes, and the minor leagues, I
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: know it was you basically had three times that you
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: could get it out. You could get it wrong, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: then you're out of challenges as a team, not you individually,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: not pert bat, not inning the whole game. It was
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: three different times that you get it wrong and then
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: you're out of challenges, is what it was in the
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: minor leagues. Now, if they have that same where it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: just three, I think it goes into the season. Is
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: if you think the umpire screwed you right as you're
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: a hitter, you think he screwed you, or you're a
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: pitcher or you're the catcher, you can tap your helmet,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: and then we're going to kind of play this out
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: as how many times, how good you are at it?
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: You know he's joking.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Jerry Depoto's joking a little bit with Randy rose Rena
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: because he thinks everything that is called a strike is
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: a ball and.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: He's not correct.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: He's not great at it, and so I think they're
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: still going to let Randy rose Arena start the season
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: with Hey, if you think they got it wrong, then
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: you can go ahead and challenge it. But you're right
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: a month into the season. If you start proving that
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: you're wasting our challenges, then you're not going to get
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: to do it anymore. You're just flat out sorry. You
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: got to kind of wear it a little bit. When
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: it comes to the pitchers. I think Jerry's right on
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: with that too. Every pitcher, when a guy frames it
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: and it's pretty darn close and we're talking a half
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: inch off the plate, that's of course that's a strike.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Cow's just going to know if it's a strike or not.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: He's gonna know, and then he's going to play it
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: the way where Okay, first inning, nobody on two outs
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: and you paint one and I think it's on but
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: it might be a half inch off. I'm not I'm
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: not challenging that one. Throw another one, throw another one,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: and I don't think guy's gonna hit it now. So
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: you're not wasting your challenges until you get later on
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: in the game and there's more meaningful, more impactful times
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: when you most certainly want to use it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do wonder if we will get to the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: point where it will be fine. I mean, I mean
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: what umpire's miss balls and strike calls per game?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I mean a dozen?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, a.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Dozen out of all the calls that they make in
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the in the National Football League. You don't have that
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: many calls that you're going to challenge in the National
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Football League per game. And I do wonder if they'll
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: get to the point where not only do have you
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: forfeited your right to challenge because we don't trust you
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: know the strike zone as well as you think you do,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I wonder if it will get to the point where like, nope,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: nobody but Cal or Julio get the challenge because we're
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: going to save opportunities for them. You know, with runners
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: in scoring position, you know, if you'll get so Cal's
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the only person that can challenge. No pitchers can challenge
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: uh and then offensively through at least through the first
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: three or four innings. We you know, you better not
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: be challenging with the bases empty and you're already in
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the hole. Oh two, you better not be challenging at
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that stage. We need to save those four run scoring opportunities.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I do wonder if it will evolve into that. I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: don't know if it will, but I do wonder if
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: it will evolve it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Well, there's gonna be a strategy, You're right, I think
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: initially though, it has to be like you have to
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: earn you have to basically earn the distrust of your
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: your team in you not using them wisely. I don't
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: care if it's oh, oh, I mean a first pitch,
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: the guy dots it at your knees, but it's an
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: inch off the plate and the guy calls a strike
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: because it was framed up.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's one oh is different than no. One.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: And so if you want to use the challenge, they're fine.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I think it actually is two. I think in the
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: big leagues it's gonna be two allotted misses. Right, So yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: you you basically have one screw up before the next
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: screw up been, you're out of challenges. So yeah, they're
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: going to most certainly if you do it and then
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: you abuse it and you're wrong, and you all of
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: a sudden you're selfishly putting your your own at bats
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: or your own innings pitched out there above what the
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: team is needing, then yeah, they're gonna rein it in
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: and be like, hey, yeah, you know, if a pitcher
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: just keeps going to his helmet every single time he
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: thinks it's a strike and it's like your's hat, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: he keeps costing the team those challenges, then they're gonna
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: be like, you don't do it anymore.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Cow's got you.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: That almost seems automatic to me, where they'll just trust
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: that cow will do it when he needs to do it,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: and nobody's gonna get mad when he's not one hundred
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: percent when he gets one wrong and he has had
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: twenty right before that. The hitting side of it is
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: one that is going to be tougher because it's not
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: as easy to be the umpire well you're actually trying
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: to hit, and yet as a pitcher, you can execute
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: your pitch and you're in the middle of finishing that
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: and the guy that's catching it, that has the best view,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: even better than the umpire's view. That guy gets the challenge.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: As a hitter, it's different because you've got to really
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: really know the strike zone. So I think some guys
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: are going to be better at it, and those that
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: aren't are going to get their leash tightened up a
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: little bit when they start screwing them.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: As a former player, do you like it? Do you
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: not like it? Too far? Not far enough?
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: I like it, and I think it's a perfect bridge
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: to where they're going to eventually go. I think that,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, maybe this will be enough, Maybe this will
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: be enough when we don't have to go to the
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: full blown robot strike zone. But I most certainly like it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: There's there's, like I said, far too many times, I mean,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: it's difficult for an umpire to call a game and
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: be perfect. Very rarely does it happen, and understandably so.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: The ball's moving and you literally have a guy sitting
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: right in front of you that's kind of blocking you
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: a little bit from where it is. They're all every
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: catch is trying to frame it and make it look
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: like a strike. Every single time. It's kind of one
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: hundred miles an hour. It's not easy to do that
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: job and be perfect at it. And so while I
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: want to grant them some grace, I also don't want
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: them taken and changing my bat in the most key
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: crucial moment of a game by calling a ball a strike,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: and so and vice versa. If I was a pitcher,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: I'm on defense and my guy makes a pitch and
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: it's two to one and you call it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: A ball and that was a strike.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: I want I want cal to be able to challenge
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: that thing and get that count where it's supposed to
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: be in that situation. So it's I think it's moving
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: in the direction. I'm not expecting them to be perfect,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: but all right, well, I can challenge you now, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I can basically I can correct one of your mistakes
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: if needed.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: It's Chuck Powell, It's Bucky Jacobson. We are live from
• 30:34
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• 30:36
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• 30:39
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• 30:43
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• 30:45
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• 30:48
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• 30:58
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  Speaker 1: Spring training coverage continues.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: So whatever little technical issue we had, we do believe
• 31:06
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  Speaker 2: We've got Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan, the buzz at
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: camp being created by these two prospects, pitching prospects. They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna come your way today at eight o'clock this morning.
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  Speaker 2: And I do believe we're gonna chat with the Rizzer
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: as well, Rick riz He's gonna be a major storyline
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: this baseball season in Seattle. So I think he's coming
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  Speaker 2: on with us in the nine o'clock hour. And you
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: never know what other surprises that we're gonna launch at you.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: We're gonna come at you like a spider.
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  Speaker 1: Monkey on Mountain Dew.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah monkey, Yeah, you never know, you never know what's
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: gonna happen. But yes, we're settling in here to our
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: spring training coverage here on a Monday, very excited about it,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly as you walk around the grounds you see
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the different players and who took it seriously this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: We really are.
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  Speaker 2: Because we haven't really discussed this aspect of it yet
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  Speaker 2: on our show this morning. The body changes and I
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: know people always look forward to this part. We got
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: to be their eyes and ears out here, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we are kind of long past the day where guys
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: come in looking worse. I asked Pete Woodworth off the air, like,
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  Speaker 2: who do you think has changed the body the most
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  Speaker 2: in the off season?
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  Speaker 3: Did the most?
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  Speaker 1: And he goes they all do now. They all add muscle,
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  Speaker 1: like every off.
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  Speaker 2: Season they do something different to get stronger and you know,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe correct something.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not really an.
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  Speaker 2: Issue like it used to be when guys used to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, smack a smoke a pack of Marlborough's a
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  Speaker 2: day and work at the factory in the off season
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  Speaker 2: and they had to come in here and get in shape.
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  Speaker 2: You never know what kind of body you're going to
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  Speaker 2: get back in the day. But with these guys, I mean,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: they're all pretty fit, but I have noticed a couple
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: that have changed certainly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they definitely put their the work in. I mean,
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: you're right, we're long ways past. I mean, we just
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: have more information even back from when I played. I
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: mean I when I met my wife, I was talking
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: to her about how we worked out right, and she
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: was a you know, Olympic caliber thrower at University of Wyoming.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: When she's talking about, so you guys, you lift heavy, right,
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  Speaker 5: everyone's on you, max you can't stress your body. I'm like, nope, nope,
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  Speaker 5: they told us, don't ever lift heavy. Don't want to
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: get bulky. It's a it's a marathon, not a sprint.
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  Speaker 5: So you don't do you don't lift like that. You
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: lift for endurance. And she's like, well that doesn't make
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: you sense, like you're just you're just not getting stronger.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, these are like billion dollar organizations, Okay,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I think they know what they're doing with their athletes.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: She's like, but they don't, and so we know.
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  Speaker 5: I argued with her. Now I have just admitted you
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: were right, because now they do that.
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  Speaker 2: Now they show them the hamster wheels she made, the
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: tread hamster treadman.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they don't have one like three of them.
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  Speaker 1: As people will stand in line.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, get blocked down. Yeah, it would get way too packed.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: You got to make more than one of those, Kate.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the the idea of how much science
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: goes into your body and then now all the supplements
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: and the things that you can take to kind of
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: improve your health and and improve your overall performance. But
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: it's legal, it's under the you know, it's it's under
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: the line of things that are available and allowable. I
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: think that, yeah, everybody pretty much takes it into consideration. Alley,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: this is my this is the vehicle that's going to
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: make me millions of dollars. I'm gonna go ahead and
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: make sure that I have this thing running on super fuel.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: And and I think that everybody comes in in shape
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: compared to back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: There.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Back in the day, like you said, a lot of
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: people worked at a factory in the off season. Even
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: my day, that wasn't the case. But you still you
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: didn't necessarily know as much. There wasn't as much information
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: out there, and some of the information wasn't even correct.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: And so nowadays, I think I got the right information
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: for the most part, and they're coming in ready to
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: rock and roll.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I think the person that kind of stood out to
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: me the most in terms of change from last year,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller. I mean, as soon as he walked up
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to us yesterday, I'm like, you've put on some muscle.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: He goes, yes, I have.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I really have.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, usually Clint Eastwood, we never worried
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: about Clint Eastwood's pecks. You know, he was just such
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: a cool, smooth mother blanker, you know what I mean.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: And that's Bryce Miller. That's my nickname for Bryce Miller,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Clint Eastwood. But he decided it's looked like Clint Eastwood
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: got him a bowflex this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: It was noticeable to me. I mean, not like he
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't bulky.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Bryce could get bulky, but you could
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: tell that they're a little vantage going down the arms,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and he just kind of filled out his shirt a
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: little bit more so. I think strength was a priority
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: for him, and to me, of the guys I've seen
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: thus far, he might be the one that popped to
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: me yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he definitely there was a part of it that
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: stood out for sure. I mean I think that typically
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: if you see somebody coming off a year that one
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: you went through injury or you just have a down year, right,
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: and then he was he had an injury and it
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: kind of played He pitched through it a little bit,
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: I think when there were other guys heard at the
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: beginning of the season and and it affected his performance,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: his outcome. I don't think that he was one hundred percent,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: and yet I think he was. He was closer to
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: being capable to take the ball than a lot of
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: other guys were, and so he kind of wore it
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: for the team a little bit. But you have an
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: off season with that lingering it, it most certainly fuels
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: you going into the offseason. You most certainly are like,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I'm not going through that again, and so I'm gonna
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: get my body one hundred percent ready and make sure
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: that it's going to hold up. And then you also
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: gained the confidence of when you're standing on the bumper
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: or dig it in the box, where you know you
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: did the work you needed to do to get yourself
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: ready to go out there and compete at the highest level.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And then I thought Andre's munjos looked a
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: little more fit. I asked him, like, day, did you
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: put it? And He's like, no, not really, so but
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We shall see with him going didn't
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: get too much exposure to Andre, say yesterday, but we'll
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: certainly try to get him on the radio program here
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: before the end of the week. But but yes, all
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: of those sorts of things that go into the first
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: couple of days at spring training, we're gonna be your
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: eyes and ears out here for.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: All of this.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Mainly, the main story with the pictures is like every
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: single one of them either proposed or had a baby
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: this offseason, Like what on earth?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So I think before, especially on Picture's Day, we're.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Gonna, you know what, We're gonna get to the bottom
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: of who's the most romantic picture? And the Mariners starting rotation. Yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna grade their proposals. Oh yeah, yeah for them
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: right in front of their faces.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: That's how Bryce's was in like a canyon, yeah, like
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: with a river flowing.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: That's where would take his woman right there, just ride
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: his horse out into the canyon.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I bet Woo's was. Did we get engaged?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: No, I think Woo's just having way too much fun
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: being Woo Woo.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Woo Woo.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Had a baby, Logan had a baby.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Just Emerson Hancock had a baby.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Too, busting with pride in Miles.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Named him Miles. I wondef that's after Master Boney.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, I don't know. Maybe yeah, but really disappointed
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: going on around here. Well disappointed. I mean I thought
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: we were close with Emerson.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I think that Bucky Bucky Charles Hancocks got a nice
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: ring to it, and I think he let us down.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: I didn't bring that up. But next time I see him, huh.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't think about that. How we got screwed in
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: the deal, just when I thought I knew Emerson. Well, yeah,
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: you name him after Miles Master Boney. You played with
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: that guy for like one season. We've interviewed you six times. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: all right.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, they are the Buzz.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: We are going to have Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan
• 38:45
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