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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May twenty three. This is Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour and now listed in Josh Allen's new contract under
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Speaker 1: Lawn Maintenance. J Peace. I did get a new lawnmoar
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Speaker 1: the other week, which was a highlight for me. Welcome
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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagaman, Tony Vaselli.
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Speaker 1: Plenty to discuss today, gentlemen with O t A s here.
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Speaker 1: What are you looking at? One with a bag off?
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Speaker 1: I didn't have a bag. Molf propelled, JP propelled. Nice.
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Speaker 1: You need to work I do, thank you. It's a
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Speaker 1: doubles as a workout. How often do you have to
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Speaker 1: know your law um once a week, yeah or something
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Speaker 1: like that. And how long does it take you? I'm
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Speaker 1: not big, twenty minutes, thirty minutes, so it depends on
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Speaker 1: how tall it is. I mean, I gotta go run
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Speaker 1: after the now, but I go do something else after.
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Speaker 1: Do you edge too or you just I did get
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Speaker 1: an edge of the other day. To speaking of, I've
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Speaker 1: been on a roll. You are on lawn equipment. So
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Speaker 1: we can delve into this in July when there's nothing
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Speaker 1: else to talk about today. There's plenty to discuss with
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Is what we're getting too. O t
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Speaker 1: A s continue deep. Filippo talks for the first time
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Speaker 1: publicly to the media. Today, we'll hear from the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Say that again, did you say? Is it
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Speaker 1: D Filippo or de Filippo Filippo? What did I say?
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Speaker 1: You kind of gave a Flippo Filippo Flippo. It's John D. Filippo,
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Speaker 1: John D. He spoke today, whatever his name is, he Filippo.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he said no. I don't think you did.
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Speaker 1: We'll roll the tape. Unique and got Quay is in
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Speaker 1: the building. That's a couple of days old now, but
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Speaker 1: we'll hear from Unique as well. We'll go around the
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Speaker 1: National Football League. Let's start off with John D. Filippo,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive coordinator. The big talk. Well, of course Nick Foles.
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Speaker 1: They were together in Philadelphia when they won the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl a couple of years ago. Here's John D. Filippo
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Speaker 1: today on his quarterback. You know, Nick is the same
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Speaker 1: guy who was in Philadelphia. First off, Nick is a
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Speaker 1: great person, and I think to be a great leader,
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Speaker 1: I think you have to be a great person because
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Speaker 1: if you're off the field doing things that you're not
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Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. It's really hard to lead. And
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Speaker 1: so I think number one that's is the number one
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Speaker 1: trade in his leadership ability is the type of guy
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Speaker 1: he is. Number two, you know, his confidence in the system,
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Speaker 1: his confidence in me, his confidence in the coaching staff.
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Speaker 1: I think, just really really you know, gets off on
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Speaker 1: the players. And then number three, he leads by example
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Speaker 1: out here on the practice field. He's always going full speed,
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Speaker 1: you know, he's always trying to get better every day.
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Speaker 1: He has a plan to get better every day. And
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Speaker 1: I think that rubs off on a lot of our players,
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Speaker 1: especially at younger players. So the first couple of days
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Speaker 1: of O T A S. I think that's pretty clear
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Speaker 1: to see. There's just a different There's a calmness about practice, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is a veteran quarterback that can
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Speaker 1: go out there, in and out of the huddle. There's
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Speaker 1: not you know, a lot of uneasy at us. Let's
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Speaker 1: say it seems at least looking at it on the
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Speaker 1: side one, it doesn't surprise me what the flippo said
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Speaker 1: about Folds. I mean it was the book on him
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Speaker 1: coming in and right now, what else are you gonna say.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've had two days of O T A
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Speaker 1: s UM. It's the beginning stages. It's sunshine and rainbow.
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Speaker 1: Everything's good, everything, there's no problems. I mean, you really
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Speaker 1: find out about a guy when it's going sideways a
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Speaker 1: little bit, which will every team has moments where it
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Speaker 1: goes sideways, and I think that's when I where the
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Speaker 1: confidence for me comes in that UM with Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is because he's been in those high pressure,
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Speaker 1: tense situations and handle it very well. So I agree
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Speaker 1: with everything that the Filippo said about him not surprising,
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Speaker 1: not breaking news. UM is like I almost hate saying
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Speaker 1: this because Logs and I were talking about in the field,
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Speaker 1: we both really like Blake Bortles. We enjoyed him being here.
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Speaker 1: He a great guy. But the difference of just watching
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles run the offense in the passing game is
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Speaker 1: just out. It looks like it's supposed to look like
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Speaker 1: it's a big difference. And but you know, this time
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Speaker 1: of year is great because everybody's winning. Everything's great, there's
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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be a superstar. I think every team in
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Speaker 1: the league right now has a winning record, with the
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Speaker 1: exception of the Jets. They're struggling, right, I mean, let
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Speaker 1: me know, we got around the league coming up, but
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Speaker 1: I mean every team in the league is winning and
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Speaker 1: feeling good about where they are, with the exception of
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Speaker 1: the Jets. Can I ask a question off topic real
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Speaker 1: quick because I was watching the video that we have
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com. Um, if you're watching us live,
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Speaker 1: I guess wherever that is on Jaguars dot com dot
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Speaker 1: com and social media and social media. When did it
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Speaker 1: become in vogue to where the hoodie under the jersey
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Speaker 1: and it was like ninety plus degrees out there today?
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Speaker 1: And why are people wearing hoodies? Coach as you're doing
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Speaker 1: it too, I know, but the players, When did the
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Speaker 1: players like start having the hoodie out the back like
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Speaker 1: I was watching, like there's one right there, Leonard Fournette
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Speaker 1: has it, Tavin Bryant had it. I don't know a
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Speaker 1: number of guys have the hoodie out the back when
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Speaker 1: they take their helmet off, they have shade. We think
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Speaker 1: that's it. Well, I was, actually that's what I would
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Speaker 1: have it for. Why I was out there at practice
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Speaker 1: and saw no one using it for that purpose. I
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Speaker 1: think it's you want to know what I think it is.
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Speaker 1: It's a cool fact like fashion statement, like it's cool
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Speaker 1: to do now you're a big fashion guy. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: cared a lot about having Like there's a hoodie right there,
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Speaker 1: a lot of hoodies out there today. I don't understand it,
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Speaker 1: like it's it's it's it really bothers me. Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: sorry to hear that. Can we continue our conversation, But
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering when this hoodie trend start started. The worst
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Speaker 1: the worst thing about the hoodie it takes away from
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Speaker 1: the visibility of the name plate. It makes our job
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Speaker 1: harder just saying, thank thankfully they're wearing numbers and we
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Speaker 1: have cheat cheap handy sheet that we can thank you. Well.
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Speaker 1: Radio two got to let people know what we're doing,
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Speaker 1: so unfolding paper so I can find out who's wearing
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Speaker 1: number forty four, like Miles Jack, Yes he's I didn't
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Speaker 1: know that Nick Foles is number seven, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: the whole conversation about folds. A lot of it, at
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Speaker 1: least was trying to get to know his teammates. That's
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Speaker 1: what he wanted to do first, get in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: That's where it starts for him. How does that conversation going,
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Speaker 1: How does it go? And O T A S. I
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Speaker 1: really don't focus on all that. Everyone's responding well in
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Speaker 1: the sense of that you know, we're we're having great conversation.
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Speaker 1: It goes two ways. What I say is and you
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Speaker 1: know what we're doing, like like I'm gonna start the conversation,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about there's a better way, let's talk uh,
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Speaker 1: and then talking to the guys about what they like,
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Speaker 1: talking to defense about what they see the linebackers. So
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Speaker 1: for me, Um, I think the big thing is there's
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Speaker 1: been great conversations going on. Anytime you build, you have
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Speaker 1: great conversations, you you start building relationships. So that's where
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Speaker 1: we're at right now, two way conversation and that's been
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Speaker 1: the at least the book unfolds, and the guys that
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Speaker 1: have talked about Folds the last few days around here
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Speaker 1: said that the boy, he's been above and beyond what
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Speaker 1: you would expect from a guy like that at that position.
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Speaker 1: It was it was fun today watching him. And I
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Speaker 1: think it was him that connected with Chris Conley, the
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Speaker 1: free agent acquisition who went to the University of Georgia
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Speaker 1: via the Kansas City Chiefs. You count tell they got
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Speaker 1: a little chemistry going. They had one the first day
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Speaker 1: as well two days ago the sideline and yes, that
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Speaker 1: were pretty nice. There's something too pretty nice, Yeah, I means,
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Speaker 1: but still there's a lot. You know, everybody's winning this time.
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Speaker 1: You're ja to can we can get a little bit
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Speaker 1: over all, But it was good. It was good to
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Speaker 1: see him in uh I. We we studied him obviously
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Speaker 1: when the Jaguars were getting ready to play the Kansas
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs, and he was one of the many guys
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Speaker 1: that could run deep for the Kansas City Chiefs, so
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Speaker 1: you were kind of concerned about that. But to get
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Speaker 1: to watch him further, it's fun to watch him because,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is, look, this offense is going
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Speaker 1: to be searching for weapons for Nick Foles to connect with,
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Speaker 1: and to get a guy in free agency that didn't
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Speaker 1: break the bank on a eight or nine million a
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Speaker 1: year prove it deal. It's good to see. What are
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Speaker 1: you laugh at Tony? What's so darn funny? Catching are
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Speaker 1: proven deal? When did nine million dollar deals become proven deals?
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Speaker 1: One year? Nine million dollars? Apparently he didn't prove it,
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Speaker 1: is what you're trying to say it's the most ridiculously
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Speaker 1: I've ever heard, Like I prove it. Deals usually like
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Speaker 1: a couple million incentives. Where does that a little funnel out?
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Speaker 1: Speaking of weapons on offense, tight end a big part
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Speaker 1: of that Philadelphia Eagles offense the last couple of years. Well,
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Speaker 1: can the Jaguars bring something like that? Here? They have
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Speaker 1: a rookie tight end and Josh Oliver, a third round
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Speaker 1: pick from San Jose States Nick Foles today discussing what
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Speaker 1: it's like to work with a rook tight end. How
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Speaker 1: do you get him going? You know, I played with
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Speaker 1: Zach Erris's rookie year, and you know, he had a
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Speaker 1: tremendous rookie year and now he's the could be the
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Speaker 1: best tight end in the NFL. He's a tremendous player. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think the big thing is when you'll see them
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Speaker 1: run and they'll they'll start making some catches where they're
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Speaker 1: not thinking about the route. They're not thinking it's a
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Speaker 1: two high one high man zone. They're reacting to the play.
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Speaker 1: Their routes are fluent, and they're starting to make these
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Speaker 1: catches that you know subconsciously they can make. But sometimes
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Speaker 1: when you think it too much, like your brain is
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Speaker 1: not focused in on the ball and things like that.
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Speaker 1: Same as a quarterback if we aren't in the game
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Speaker 1: reading reacting, Uh, it's hard to go through your reads.
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Speaker 1: You see things too fast. So the big thing for him,
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Speaker 1: it was huge, you know, from day one to day two.
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Speaker 1: You know, there was a time he ran across the
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Speaker 1: middle and cart a twenty yard deep cross route and
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Speaker 1: seeing that big body move around he can run real
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Speaker 1: well and go up with two hands. I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a great player for US. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's the rookie year. So with him, I'm just trying
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Speaker 1: to talk him through what what being a rookie is
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Speaker 1: and you know, how to deal with the emotions of
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Speaker 1: that year. But I think it's under great interesting stuff
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Speaker 1: there from the Jaguars quarterback Nick full He's got the
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Speaker 1: rookie Josh overs got a ways to go now when
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Speaker 1: it comes up, yeah, yeah, I'm saying he's not zach Ertz. No, No,
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Speaker 1: he's got a ways. Wasn't zach Ertz rookie rookie? Right?
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Speaker 1: It was his name, he wasn't. That's that the guy
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Speaker 1: you think of probably the second, but technically was that
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Speaker 1: Hurtz though? Thank you technically he's Josh. That's my point. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was. It was a good matchup today, and it
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Speaker 1: was Josh Oliver was split out in the slot and
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack was covering him in a great matchup, and
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack ended up winning. He broke the ball up
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Speaker 1: at the last second, but it was. It was a
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Speaker 1: great play. But that's kind of it's a little bit
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Speaker 1: illustrated that I think this is what Josh Oliver needs
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Speaker 1: to learn. And that's one thing that was shown to
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Speaker 1: me on watching his film is that he didn't get
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Speaker 1: a lot of separation. Tony. He's got great speed when
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Speaker 1: he runs the forty, but he needs to learn the
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Speaker 1: little nuances. And he's got a great coach. Ron Middleton
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Speaker 1: is an excellent tight ends coach, played in the league
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Speaker 1: for a long time. But he's got to learn the
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Speaker 1: little small things and running a route, how you set
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Speaker 1: up liners. He's sticking at the top of the route
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Speaker 1: to create the separation. I mean, Antonio Gates runs like
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Speaker 1: five five in the forty right now, but somehow he
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Speaker 1: gets separation because he leans a little bit this way,
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Speaker 1: sticks the route, creates a separation with his body and
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Speaker 1: gives a target to the to the quarterback obviously, Josh Oliver,
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Speaker 1: you can't expect that yet. No, kids, a great athlete,
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Speaker 1: you can stretch the field, you can do things like that, Um,
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Speaker 1: and what you hope for. That's why he was a
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Speaker 1: third round or not a first rounder, that he can
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Speaker 1: develop some of those traits he has. The athletic ability
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Speaker 1: is the body, has the length, he has good hands. Um,
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Speaker 1: he can do all those. Now it's just how much
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Speaker 1: will he be willing to learn and how much can
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Speaker 1: he how much can he comprehend, you know, soak up
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Speaker 1: and then translate that on the field. How quickly can
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Speaker 1: that process take place? On the one positive and Tony
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Speaker 1: mentioned his hands. That's the one thing that he did
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Speaker 1: really well at San Jose State that he caught a
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Speaker 1: lot of balls with people draped on his back, which
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Speaker 1: so which means that he can make the contestant catches
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Speaker 1: and tight ends are always in quite a bit of traffic,
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Speaker 1: so they need to make those type of catches to
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Speaker 1: be a security blanket for the team. But the more
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Speaker 1: confidence you'll gain in your quarterback with the more separation
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Speaker 1: that you create for him to find that window bigger.
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Speaker 1: So that's something he's got to learn final thought on
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Speaker 1: offense here in the opening segment of this program, the
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Speaker 1: running back position, Leonard for Nette was really the only
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Speaker 1: guy back from a season ago. John D. Flippo, Today's
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, discussing his first thoughts about Leonard Fornette working
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Speaker 1: with him on the field. Big guy can run fast,
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Speaker 1: and um, he's he's got great vision. Um, he's got
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Speaker 1: great energy on the field. Um. I mean, we're really
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Speaker 1: looking forward to Leonard having a big year. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a let's call, I'm gonna call what
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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, he's gonna be a major reason
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Speaker 1: where our offense goes. And I'm not I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: sugarcoat that. Leonard Fournette needs to be a big part
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Speaker 1: of this offense. And um, so the harder he works,
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Speaker 1: which he is right now, I think that's gonna be.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be not only good for our offense, but
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Speaker 1: good for our team. Right. As the as for Nett goes,
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Speaker 1: the offense goes, according to the coordinator, I would disagree
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Speaker 1: with that. I disagree with that too. As Nick Foles goes,
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Speaker 1: the offense goes, as the offense, I would say, as
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Speaker 1: the importance of this offense being successful, I'd probably put
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Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette third. You don't want an offense that's
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Speaker 1: gonna go as Leonard Fournett or as a running back.
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Speaker 1: Go I actually he has a hoodie on too, you know. Um,
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Speaker 1: I would actually say it's uh, he's third. Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: one offensive line too. Learning for net three. You can
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Speaker 1: maybe an argue that receivers would jump ahead of Leonardford
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Speaker 1: as well, but I would put him third. I think
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Speaker 1: that you run game threat though, right to balance it out. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well obviously, but if Nick Foles is good, an offensive
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Speaker 1: line is good, everything else will be good. You got
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Speaker 1: other backs too, by the way, sure, but they haven't
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Speaker 1: been around here. Well, I mean, look, it doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that that can't be good because they haven't been here.
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Speaker 1: What's more in for and Jeff, in your opinion or
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Speaker 1: what would you rather have a great offensive line and
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Speaker 1: a above average back or a great back and just
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Speaker 1: an okay offense? Give me the great offensive line me too.
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Speaker 1: How does Leonard look to you physically? Guys? It looks good.
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Speaker 1: I'm not playing that game. That's good. But the same
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Speaker 1: thing remember last year he lost weight and he's quicker
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Speaker 1: and he's OK. This time of year, it didn't translate.
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Speaker 1: It's got it's got to translate to Sunday. And it
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Speaker 1: turned the other way late in the year too. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter right now. Let me say it matters for him,
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Speaker 1: it matters for this team. I'm not making any judgments
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Speaker 1: of Leonard for Nett based on a couple of tis
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Speaker 1: and how he looks. I think I think the reason
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Speaker 1: I say that it shouldn't the offense shouldn't go as
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Speaker 1: Leonard Fournetts goes, is that you can't be so dependent
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Speaker 1: upon one person for the success or the lack of
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Speaker 1: success as a group of of offense. Now and in
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Speaker 1: the NFL, we realized, look that the quarterback. That's how
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Speaker 1: it is. If you've got a good quarterback play, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna get good offensive play. But you can't be so
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Speaker 1: dependent on your offensive success being solely with the running back.
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Speaker 1: So I disagree with him from that, from that statement
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Speaker 1: that he said that we're gonna go as Leonard Fournette goes. No,
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Speaker 1: you need to go as your offensive line goes and
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Speaker 1: as your quarterback goes. I mean, look at this, you know,
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Speaker 1: if you look at the teams that made deep runs Um,
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Speaker 1: the Rams head girly, so you can say, okay, but
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Speaker 1: still very good. At the end of the year, he
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Speaker 1: was not. And it really was the you know, the
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Speaker 1: running game was crucial Street with the offensive line. They
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Speaker 1: still were effective with another back, Tom Brady, and that
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Speaker 1: that offense. It's not about it back, it's about back.
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Speaker 1: It's about backs protecting Tom Brady and the quarterback. Um.
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Speaker 1: I mean you can go down the list of teams
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Speaker 1: and the way the game is played. I'm not devaluing
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Speaker 1: the running back saying you don't need a good one.
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Speaker 1: I mean I'd love to have Ezekiel Elliott or one
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Speaker 1: of the I mean they're great backs. That Kansas City's
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Speaker 1: all offense go in the tank. They lost their back.
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Speaker 1: No they no, they did not know he was Okay,
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Speaker 1: they were the m v P last time. They were fine. Um,
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Speaker 1: look you but if you have a quarterback and you
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Speaker 1: can block, you will win win football games. Got a chance.
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Speaker 1: Let's come back that well we have to contractually we
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Speaker 1: will be back. Yes, well we'll find out about three
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Speaker 1: minutes would come back or not. If they let us,
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Speaker 1: you might not be back. But I'm just glad you're
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Speaker 1: finally here. I was here last week that that story
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Speaker 1: is a little bit older. You can all use that
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Speaker 1: like every in July, you can use it. Just wait, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and talk defense. We'll hear from
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Speaker 1: you and backing up at it and Josh Allen first
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22:12
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22:17
Speaker 1: if he weren't here, I would be I would be
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22:28
Speaker 1: to answer that question, what do you think he's worth?
22:31
Speaker 1: He's a hundred million dollar a year player, not a
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22:37
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Speaker 1: He's worth what DeMarcus Lawrence Scott with the Dallas Cowboys,
22:48
Speaker 1: which is about a hundred million dollar deal. I think
22:50
Speaker 1: that was right around five years, wasn't it five years?
22:52
Speaker 1: Hundred million ball park? But that's that's where he's at.
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Speaker 1: And so if you're worth hundred million, and let's say
23:05
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23:17
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23:19
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23:53
Speaker 1: tag of you to think how you feel about him?
23:56
Speaker 1: And everything is a business business building a team. Would
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Speaker 1: you pay him eighteen nineteen twenty million dollars a year
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24:07
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24:41
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24:46
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Speaker 1: a guy that can be your main pressure pass rusher whatever,
24:54
Speaker 1: very it's an easy quite answer for me. The answer
24:57
Speaker 1: to me it's very similar to Jeff's. I would have
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25:03
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25:09
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25:14
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25:17
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25:20
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25:21
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25:24
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25:28
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25:32
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25:35
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25:39
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25:41
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25:44
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25:46
Speaker 1: That would be the business side too. That's the business side,
25:50
Speaker 1: and that's okay. It's a tough situation. No one likes it.
25:53
Speaker 1: He's a player who got drafted the third round who's
25:56
Speaker 1: greatly outperformed his where he was drafted very fair. He's
26:00
Speaker 1: greatly outperformed, and you're a team who has to manage
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26:09
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26:10
Speaker 1: you at this price, I can do it today. If not,
26:13
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26:15
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26:20
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26:22
Speaker 1: approximately twenty million a year, you know, or maybe just
26:27
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26:36
Speaker 1: all the guaranteed money that you just gave him. So
26:38
Speaker 1: the business side of it from the team standpoint might
26:42
Speaker 1: also be, let's wait and make sure that the year
26:46
Speaker 1: that he has is as good as the years that
26:48
Speaker 1: he's had in the past, and also that he comes
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26:55
Speaker 1: continue to contribute out the level that we've seen him
26:58
Speaker 1: contribute at in the future. He said, math I mean,
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Speaker 1: so there's other ones. There's so many ways to look
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Speaker 1: at it. If you look at this years to make
27:04
Speaker 1: two let's say two millions for easy math, and the
27:07
Speaker 1: franchise tag for top let's say it's seventeen million. And
27:10
Speaker 1: there that's nineteen million that you you will be on
27:13
Speaker 1: the hook for if everything goes no injuries and everything
27:16
Speaker 1: as as the team. So I'd go and that's and
27:19
Speaker 1: so I'd go to in Gockway and so listen, I'll
27:22
Speaker 1: sign you up right now for a fourteen fifteen million
27:24
Speaker 1: dollar a year, five year deal with the guarantee right
27:28
Speaker 1: now that you're gonna get paid over the next two years.
27:33
Speaker 1: You're gonna get thirty instead of just nineteen h and
27:39
Speaker 1: so it's like, that's where do I sign, Yell sign? Yeah?
27:42
Speaker 1: Come on no. But but here's the problem as a players,
27:45
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27:47
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27:50
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27:55
Speaker 1: Do I sign a deal where I can get thirty
27:58
Speaker 1: guaranteed at minium, I'm probably get forty five over three
28:02
Speaker 1: years guaranteed. Or I roll the dice and and try
28:07
Speaker 1: to put pressure on this organization and play the tag game.
28:11
Speaker 1: And here, cousins, here's the other thing that if if
28:14
Speaker 1: you're if you're the agent for in Gockway or you're
28:18
Speaker 1: in Gockway himself, and you're sitting there thinking, Okay, when
28:22
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28:28
Speaker 1: but what's gonna be occurring around me that's going to
28:32
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28:36
Speaker 1: have Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jack. So if if you're
28:41
Speaker 1: in Gockway and you're in Gockway's agent, you're thinking, it
28:46
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28:49
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a thing that you know that
28:51
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28:54
Speaker 1: the advantages of maybe getting next year to get the
28:57
Speaker 1: free agency and even if I'm tagged or whatever, that's
29:00
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29:03
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29:07
Speaker 1: a level of money that if I performs the healthy
29:12
Speaker 1: higher than you could get otherwise healthy healthy, you never know,
29:17
Speaker 1: And that's where and you know what the Jags mindset
29:20
Speaker 1: is and how would work into the cap. But that's
29:23
Speaker 1: the conversation I'd be having my agents, like what's like
29:26
Speaker 1: over the next two years, Like if I have a
29:29
Speaker 1: great year, They're gonna franchise me, and so that means
29:33
Speaker 1: I'm locked in at these prices so many different things
29:37
Speaker 1: that get from both sides. Can I get a lot
29:41
Speaker 1: more by taking a little bit of discount right now?
29:44
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned the first round pick, Josh Allen signed
29:47
Speaker 1: his contract today. His rookie contract projected to earn just
29:51
Speaker 1: under twenty three million dollars over four years and just
29:54
Speaker 1: under fifteen million dollars signing bonus today. So with that
29:58
Speaker 1: autograph today, he's making much more than in Gockway has
30:01
Speaker 1: in his whole career. Does that change anything at all? No? No,
30:06
Speaker 1: the contract doesn't change anything within Gockway when it comes
30:11
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30:15
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30:18
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30:23
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30:25
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30:30
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30:33
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30:39
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30:43
Speaker 1: a player who maybe worth more than you're willing to pay.
30:49
Speaker 1: I mean, because that's the whole name of the game.
30:51
Speaker 1: Keep drafting young talent to replace older, more expensive talent
30:55
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31:00
Speaker 1: Josh Allen affecting Gockway JP In reality, he may affect
31:04
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31:07
Speaker 1: they don't get anything worked out within Gockway and Josh
31:09
Speaker 1: Allen turns out to be an absolute beast, then the
31:14
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31:17
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31:21
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe we can tag and trade in goquare,
31:25
Speaker 1: Maybe we can just let him walk and get a
31:27
Speaker 1: compensatory pick. Have he been? In a perfect world, though,
31:30
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31:32
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31:34
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31:36
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31:39
Speaker 1: to give you the best chance of winning. And it's
31:41
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31:44
Speaker 1: It's all positions. Because as a player, this is an
31:50
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31:52
Speaker 1: game because the Godway should be worried about him and
31:55
Speaker 1: what he gets paid and everything else. It's his family,
31:57
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32:01
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32:07
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32:10
Speaker 1: to understand that it's a business and the team's making
32:13
Speaker 1: business decisions, so don't take it personal. They the Jaguars
32:17
Speaker 1: love him Gockway. If there was no cap, he'd are
32:21
Speaker 1: to be paid and they keep them. But that's not
32:24
Speaker 1: the world we live in. If it's me, I'm trying
32:27
Speaker 1: to get a discount right now within Gockway and trying
32:30
Speaker 1: to make it attract enough for he signs, because while
32:33
Speaker 1: Josh Allen might have a great year and it might
32:36
Speaker 1: be great, you can never have too many people that
32:38
Speaker 1: can affect the quarterback in this league. And at some point,
32:42
Speaker 1: and we thought it might be last year, but it wasn't.
32:45
Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell's gonna slow down at some point now, hopefully
32:49
Speaker 1: in the next two years. I'm not betting against the
32:51
Speaker 1: big guy because he just keeps on truck pretty good.
32:55
Speaker 1: But you need people because after right now. I mean,
32:57
Speaker 1: if you look at it really after in Gockway and class,
33:00
Speaker 1: who else is affecting the quarterback? Now? The hope is
33:05
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33:07
Speaker 1: run amazing. He's a great player. But three or four
33:10
Speaker 1: years ago in Buffalo he was a that's been four years.
33:14
Speaker 1: It's been okay, four years ago. But he affected the
33:16
Speaker 1: quarterback like sure, as good as anybody interior in the
33:19
Speaker 1: defensive line. But he hasn't done that, and so you
33:22
Speaker 1: need guys who can do it. Got Clay is getting older.
33:26
Speaker 1: You got in Dockway hopefully Josh Allen. So while Jeff's right,
33:30
Speaker 1: it could impact how they viewing Gockway, the production of
33:33
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33:35
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33:38
Speaker 1: Before we go, I just want to mention one name,
33:40
Speaker 1: Juan Smooth. He's not bringing him up. Where's he at?
33:45
Speaker 1: He's on the field, he was. My point isn't bringing
33:50
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33:54
Speaker 1: It was third round pick? Sure, it's not a fourth, fourth,
33:59
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34:02
Speaker 1: P can double check it right now, but when you're
34:04
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34:09
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34:12
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34:18
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34:21
Speaker 1: This is a big year for him. Where is he at?
34:23
Speaker 1: Hasn't shown have shown you anything yet? He started playing
34:27
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34:30
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34:33
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34:37
Speaker 1: I like that. That was a nice addition to that second.
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39:31
Speaker 1: You mentioned Josh Allen. Doug Moron before practice today was
39:35
Speaker 1: not expected to speak with the media, but we were
39:37
Speaker 1: told right beforehand that he had an injury update. Here's
39:40
Speaker 1: what he had to say about Josh Allen. I wouldn't
39:42
Speaker 1: if I was gonna it's gonna be back tomorrow, wouldn't
39:44
Speaker 1: say anybody was saying and it'll be fine, We're gonna
39:48
Speaker 1: be We're gonna be cautious. I mean the time you
39:51
Speaker 1: hear when you came here. You don't need to put
39:53
Speaker 1: the rush anyone back. He's in shape, you know, which
39:56
Speaker 1: is not You know, he's in shape, he's strong, he's
39:58
Speaker 1: he's done everything we've asked. You know, any other player
40:02
Speaker 1: would be doing the same thing. But just because it's him,
40:05
Speaker 1: I think you need to make sure that you just
40:07
Speaker 1: that everybody's traits and no one no one goes conspiracy theory.
40:12
Speaker 1: Knee Bruce was what he called the issue with Josh Allen,
40:16
Speaker 1: And we spoke with Josh Allen after he signed his
40:18
Speaker 1: contract today and had a chance to ask him about
40:21
Speaker 1: that knee and how it is. I mean, I'm good,
40:23
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is as football. You know,
40:26
Speaker 1: I never heard of anybody ever not having anything wrong
40:30
Speaker 1: with him playing a violent sports such as this one,
40:33
Speaker 1: so you know it is what it is. Is a
40:35
Speaker 1: little nick nasby backson all right. So there was caution
40:38
Speaker 1: there and both did not worry of too much about this,
40:41
Speaker 1: certainly during O T A S. What do you guys
40:43
Speaker 1: make of him? Um, he was on the field, so
40:46
Speaker 1: he saw him out there doing stuff, so it was
40:47
Speaker 1: something really serious. He wouldn't have been working off to
40:50
Speaker 1: the side, wouldn't been doing anything, would have been doing anything.
40:53
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's anything to be concerned with.
40:56
Speaker 1: And I think, uh, kind of the course they're taking
41:01
Speaker 1: of being very conservative, let the young man get healthy.
41:05
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you Why it's something that becomes a nagging injury.
41:09
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what kind of bruise it is.
41:11
Speaker 1: I mean it's different. If it's a bone bruise, it
41:14
Speaker 1: takes longer to heal. You know, you're looking at a
41:16
Speaker 1: few weeks. If it's just a you know, bruise with
41:19
Speaker 1: some fluid, you know, a few days you can get
41:21
Speaker 1: that I used to take care of and you'll be
41:23
Speaker 1: back out. So we don't know what kind of bruise
41:25
Speaker 1: it actually is. But either way, both hell both all
41:29
Speaker 1: be fine. Take care of him, do the right thing,
41:31
Speaker 1: don't rush it right now, and as long as he's
41:33
Speaker 1: ready for camp then you'll be fine. Yeah. I'm no doctor,
41:36
Speaker 1: but from what I understand, a bone bruise can turn
41:39
Speaker 1: into something action can be a problem. It's down the road,
41:43
Speaker 1: so and they're very paceful. I don't know if it's
41:46
Speaker 1: a bone bruise, clear about that what I'm saying. Yeah,
41:50
Speaker 1: and I don't know if the bone bruise, bruise. Whatever
41:52
Speaker 1: I'm just saying is that some injuries, if if you're
41:55
Speaker 1: not cautious with him, they can become a problem. And
41:57
Speaker 1: there's absolutely no reason not to be if it's just
42:00
Speaker 1: a basic bruise and you're gonna be here some fluid
42:02
Speaker 1: on the knee. It's dangerous to go out there with
42:05
Speaker 1: food on your knee because it weakens the muscles around
42:08
Speaker 1: the knee and that you can open yourself up for
42:10
Speaker 1: more injury. So it's they're taking the right course, right action,
42:13
Speaker 1: right actions of making sure that he's healthy. You're not
42:16
Speaker 1: gonna win a Super I heard a great line there
42:19
Speaker 1: to day. You're not gonna win a Super Bowl to day,
42:20
Speaker 1: but you sure could lose one. Yeah, that's about right. Wow,
42:25
Speaker 1: let's move back to offense and offensive line today. Had
42:28
Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with Brandon Linder time center
42:31
Speaker 1: around here. The full conversation coming up a little later
42:33
Speaker 1: today on Jaguars dot Com on the audio page. Brandon
42:37
Speaker 1: Linder has a new set of hands underneath him, have
42:40
Speaker 1: a new set of hands underneath you this year. How
42:43
Speaker 1: has that transition been for this offense? It's been good
42:46
Speaker 1: there's some soft hands. He definitely moisturizes. No, but it's
42:51
Speaker 1: been good. Uh, he's done a great job. Definitely a
42:54
Speaker 1: you know, a leader, and uh, you know he's it's
42:57
Speaker 1: been good, man, it's been good. And we were starting
42:59
Speaker 1: to gel at the whole offense. Uh, I mean he's
43:01
Speaker 1: a guy who's obviously been in the super Bowl, super
43:03
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. You know, he knows how to get there
43:05
Speaker 1: and uh so, I mean people respect that and and
43:07
Speaker 1: and he can you know, commands a Lender also said
43:10
Speaker 1: that the knee a hundred percent. He's fine. He was
43:13
Speaker 1: on after Week eleven last year. I think I put
43:15
Speaker 1: on injury reserve with a knee issue. He's a hundred
43:18
Speaker 1: percent ready to go. He's he started yoga and pilates
43:21
Speaker 1: this year to help his balance a little bit, which
43:23
Speaker 1: is a new offseason routine for him. Fishing and hunting
43:26
Speaker 1: a lot. We'll hear the whole conversation coming up. But
43:28
Speaker 1: Brandon Lender's fine. Um, he's my hero. The rest of
43:32
Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, I know, just jealous. You want to
43:34
Speaker 1: be Brandon Lender. Yeah, he's a fishing machine. Yeah, a
43:38
Speaker 1: new boat to the Bahamas isn't a bad thing. Oh, no, no, no,
43:41
Speaker 1: good for him. Good for him, and I hope that
43:44
Speaker 1: for the jaguar sake. Obviously, the number of injuries that
43:47
Speaker 1: they had, especially last year with the offensive line, were
43:51
Speaker 1: very significant, and Brandon has missed some some time over
43:54
Speaker 1: the last couple of years from different things, whether it
43:57
Speaker 1: been shoulder or knee, whatever, And hopefully he now has
44:01
Speaker 1: a good luck streak when it comes to being healthy,
44:05
Speaker 1: because that's you know, if you can keep your offensive
44:07
Speaker 1: line healthy, you got a chance. Cam Robinson still off
44:10
Speaker 1: to the side inside today. Was he on the field inside,
44:17
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen him yet. But the other than that,
44:20
Speaker 1: you got Nora Well is out there working. Yeah, I was.
44:23
Speaker 1: I was Cans out there. He's resigned, he was healthy,
44:26
Speaker 1: and I've heard nothing and I don't think Jeff Az
44:28
Speaker 1: or anyone has about anything to be worried about. I
44:31
Speaker 1: was a little bit surprised that Cam was not out
44:33
Speaker 1: there doing individual stuff. He's eight months now, seven eight months.
44:37
Speaker 1: Happen in September, yeah, September, October, December, January, February, March, April. Okay,
44:45
Speaker 1: you're at eight and a half months. Yeah, you know,
44:48
Speaker 1: probably a couple of weeks to do surgeries. Eight months.
44:52
Speaker 1: I'm surprised, not that he wouldn't be doing team or anything,
44:55
Speaker 1: but just going through individual I thought he would have.
45:00
Speaker 1: But the good but good thing is they're probably taking
45:02
Speaker 1: it a cautious approach, just like because there's no reason
45:07
Speaker 1: to rush and a c L rehab when the goal
45:09
Speaker 1: is to be ready and set down. And they've got
45:11
Speaker 1: three more weeks of off seasonal work with him if
45:13
Speaker 1: they want to get him out there before the end
45:15
Speaker 1: of the prof So that's fine, now good, but it
45:18
Speaker 1: would be nice to see him, I mean just personal standpoint.
45:22
Speaker 1: But for for us, you know, for us watching the
45:25
Speaker 1: offensive line, we're paying very close attention obviously to the
45:29
Speaker 1: one position that's that seems to be very unsettled, which
45:32
Speaker 1: is the right tackle position. And you have a second
45:36
Speaker 1: round draft pick and Joan Taylor, you have free agent
45:39
Speaker 1: acquisition Cedric o'boihe who was a first round pick the
45:42
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals four years ago or five years ago, however
45:46
Speaker 1: you consider that, and then also last year's fourth round
45:49
Speaker 1: draft pick, Will Richardson Jr. And I think that's gonna
45:52
Speaker 1: be a very interesting position battle because I think all
45:56
Speaker 1: of those guys have a chance. First of all Way
45:59
Speaker 1: is a huge ja man, huge man. But when we
46:04
Speaker 1: were getting ready for the Cincinnati game, one of the
46:07
Speaker 1: big criticisms that we could give the Cincinnati Bengals was
46:11
Speaker 1: the performance of their offensive line, and in particular of
46:13
Speaker 1: their two tackles who did not perform very well. And
46:16
Speaker 1: oh boy, he was one of those tackles. And he's
46:19
Speaker 1: got a hoodie. Disappointed, disappointed, you know. And and watching
46:26
Speaker 1: Joan Taylor, he still has a little bit of a
46:28
Speaker 1: habit where he kind of leans with a stance and
46:30
Speaker 1: he tries to anticipate the snap count and he's cheating
46:33
Speaker 1: instead of just being Jeff true. But he's got he
46:38
Speaker 1: kind of got to smooth that out. And then will
46:40
Speaker 1: Richinson junior Tony, Tony liked the guy last year. Loves
46:43
Speaker 1: d I know, so did I So, I mean, I
46:45
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a great battle, great position battle.
46:48
Speaker 1: I'm curious because I loved him in college. I love
46:53
Speaker 1: him in camp. He moves people. Yeah, I camp was beginning.
46:56
Speaker 1: Part of camp is physical, and then all of a
46:58
Speaker 1: sudden have these little lingering injuries. Miss time he had
47:00
Speaker 1: like he had a wrist or finger, some finger and
47:03
Speaker 1: then it had a knee, We won't really get to
47:06
Speaker 1: know this though until training camp sto anything, because right now, well, boy,
47:12
Speaker 1: he looks like he can. He looks like a pro
47:14
Speaker 1: bowler right now, and we know he's not. So I mean,
47:16
Speaker 1: that's how much you can tell from the offensive line
47:19
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Speaker 1: Ford now dot com. If you go back to high school,
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Speaker 1: you go back to college. I always have talked about
51:11
Speaker 1: my feet because they were always I wear a size
51:13
Speaker 1: sixteen there, so yeah, and I wear these big moon
51:15
Speaker 1: boots but I love them. Um, you know, they stopped
51:18
Speaker 1: making these fleets and I only have a few pair
51:21
Speaker 1: of left, so I'm in trouble. So I gotta figure
51:22
Speaker 1: it out. Um maybe someone out there will, We'll have
51:25
Speaker 1: some stocked away. But um yeah, I always work on
51:28
Speaker 1: my feet. I think, you know, playing for you know
51:31
Speaker 1: coach Reid and coach Peterson. Uh, it's always about rhythm. Um.
51:35
Speaker 1: You know that's always always tied. And you know they're
51:37
Speaker 1: they're great at the QP position. Flip with my coach,
51:40
Speaker 1: my quarterback coach with frankwich Um in Philly, and they
51:43
Speaker 1: always harp on feet and target line. And you know,
51:45
Speaker 1: anytime you keep your feet under you and you work
51:47
Speaker 1: the pocket, you can buy some time. You know, football
51:49
Speaker 1: is not seven on seven, seven on seven, three hits
51:51
Speaker 1: throw a five hitch throw. Real football is when you
51:54
Speaker 1: have to work the pocket, move, get hit, do all
51:56
Speaker 1: the crazy throws from you know, bad hits and all that,
51:59
Speaker 1: but you want to always work on your feet, keep
52:01
Speaker 1: on moving. There's Nick Foles today, Jaguarri's quarterback and in
52:05
Speaker 1: depth conversation about footwork. Which size feet sixteen for real?
52:10
Speaker 1: That's what he said. I don't I wasn't out there
52:12
Speaker 1: to see, but wow, they're big. Shoot you wear box.
52:19
Speaker 1: I'm a fourteen twelve and a half on a good day,
52:25
Speaker 1: full fifteen wowft wide no normal? Uh no. He was
52:30
Speaker 1: on the program dr dps C SC so he lost
52:32
Speaker 1: foot size to no it's not accurate, Okay, I just
52:37
Speaker 1: I've never had a wide foot. I have normal size
52:42
Speaker 1: foot in width, very long. He does have very unique
52:45
Speaker 1: cleats and that they have what he called a moon
52:47
Speaker 1: boots where they have that kind of velcrow looks like
52:49
Speaker 1: a velcrow strap that goes across the top of the ankle.
52:52
Speaker 1: And I have you ever seen anybody wearing cleat like that, Tony,
52:56
Speaker 1: I haven't. I'm sure kind of paid attention to cleats.
52:59
Speaker 1: I would have, but I don't. I mean with I
53:02
Speaker 1: know you're a big shoe guy. If you're, if you're,
53:04
Speaker 1: if you're, I'm sure he's got a sponsor when it
53:08
Speaker 1: comes to his shoes that they make him any more
53:11
Speaker 1: listen to the That's my point is that if you're
53:13
Speaker 1: a quarterback and the starting quarterback in the National Football League,
53:16
Speaker 1: go to your shoe company and say, hey, I want these?
53:18
Speaker 1: Can you make them? Please? Do it? Well? Usually, I
53:21
Speaker 1: mean I don't know, Like that's not how it works.
53:25
Speaker 1: We need to change the name of the show to
53:26
Speaker 1: the Happy Sarcasm Hour. I mean usually, I mean, I mean,
53:34
Speaker 1: I guess if you're Michael Jordan, Lebron, Steph Curry, maybe
53:37
Speaker 1: they'll make a shoe for you. I don't know if they.
53:40
Speaker 1: When's the last time a football player had a had
53:43
Speaker 1: Nike or under Armour or shoe company make a shoe
53:47
Speaker 1: for them? I guarantee you if a starting quarterback in
53:49
Speaker 1: the National Football League went to his shoe rep and said, look,
53:52
Speaker 1: I need this done. Can you help me out? Maybe
53:55
Speaker 1: that was right there, that was his call. Maybe he's
53:59
Speaker 1: making a statement. Hint, hint, you're out of these shoes. Hint,
54:02
Speaker 1: hit makes some more. Um. Let's also congratulate Terry Robisky,
54:06
Speaker 1: Jaguar's running back coach, nominated for the Pro Football Writers
54:09
Speaker 1: Association Lifetime Achievement Award. That's the Doctor Z Award for
54:14
Speaker 1: a lifetime achievement as an assistant coach in the NFL.
54:17
Speaker 1: Other finalists this year gun Trick Cunningham, Rod Marrionelli, Bob McKittrick,
54:21
Speaker 1: the old line coach of San Francisco and the hey Day,
54:24
Speaker 1: and Mike Westoff a long time with the Dolphins as
54:27
Speaker 1: a special team's coach. So congrats to Robiski. And I
54:30
Speaker 1: will find out I think mid June June tent somewhere
54:33
Speaker 1: in there is when they announced long time is this
54:35
Speaker 1: that coach? Multiple multiple positions, done a great job long
54:39
Speaker 1: time in the league. For Robisky and just for explain
54:43
Speaker 1: to people who doctor z he is doctors a longtime
54:47
Speaker 1: writer for Sports Illustrated and h I mean the guy
54:51
Speaker 1: is Paul Zimmerman was his name, and he was he
54:53
Speaker 1: passed away not long ago. He would he had a
54:55
Speaker 1: number of years within his life. Were you a very
54:57
Speaker 1: unique guy he had I want to say this joke
55:00
Speaker 1: or something that he did not work. He hasn't worked
55:02
Speaker 1: for probably what ten years. It's not out in the public,
55:06
Speaker 1: but he tried to kind of stay busy. But he
55:08
Speaker 1: was a very unique guy, very very fun guy to
55:10
Speaker 1: talk with. So there you have. Congrats to a Terry Ribisk.
55:13
Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League, shall we? The
55:16
Speaker 1: NFL draft future sites are announced. The Vegas site next
55:19
Speaker 1: year already out there, right, Yeah, we're gonna go. We're
55:23
Speaker 1: gonna the Cosmo. We're gonna be there next year. That's
55:26
Speaker 1: already been out there. We've got sponsors lined up, but
55:29
Speaker 1: they've in those spring meetings owners meetings this week. The
55:34
Speaker 1: draft to Cleveland, three, draft to Kansas City to be determined.
55:40
Speaker 1: Where could that be if there's development here in Jacksonville
55:44
Speaker 1: in time. Could the Jaguars be in the running, Could
55:47
Speaker 1: Jacksonville be in the running? I don't only three years
55:52
Speaker 1: from now, I don't think it will be done. It
55:54
Speaker 1: will be developed enough. Maybe that's what it would take, right, Yeah,
55:58
Speaker 1: I think so after maybe after Kansas City you'd have
56:03
Speaker 1: the project done enough to Yeah, it's gonna take a
56:07
Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah. Cleveland no interesting site. Cleveland, there's
56:12
Speaker 1: a lot of work. What do you mean Cleveland's interesting?
56:14
Speaker 1: What about Vegas? Vegas is Vegas isn't really interesting? Vegas
56:19
Speaker 1: is really cool. Cleveland is interesting from the standpoint, But
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Speaker 1: if you've been downtown, they've done a ton of work downtown.
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Speaker 1: Cleveland's got a really good downtown and Hall of Fames
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Speaker 1: down there that it's really cool. Yeah. And the Kansas City,
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Speaker 1: of course is great downtown too. Well. I mean, where
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Speaker 1: what are you so down on? Like Kansas City? Like
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Speaker 1: great barbecue, got great bar, great bar not as good
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Speaker 1: as Texas, but it's got great BARBECU you listen to
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Speaker 1: this guy, Yeah, I have to agree with them. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: that one fell scouting combin help JP two more years
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for the Combine and then one year options
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Speaker 1: after that. The drills allegedly moving to afternoon and primetime
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Speaker 1: TV next year. No surprise. I mean, look at get
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Speaker 1: the drills to where people can watch them and uh
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Speaker 1: make more money. I don't think that. I don't think
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Speaker 1: the combines should ever leave Indianapolis. It is set up
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Speaker 1: perfectly for that event. I agree with the hospitals right there.
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Speaker 1: The way that you gotta remember to the physical and
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Speaker 1: it's centrally located, it's perfect. If they were going to
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Speaker 1: move it to one other place. The only other city
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Speaker 1: I think that would make sense from a geographic standpoint
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Speaker 1: would be Nashville or the other places. If you're talking
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Speaker 1: hospitals at Houston and Central of the United States. They
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Speaker 1: have a huge medical center down there right near the stadium,
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Speaker 1: I mean right near, but attentive team minutes. I mean
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Speaker 1: you have to have it's a complete like there's a
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Speaker 1: lot that goes into the combine. It's this is not
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Speaker 1: a one day or two day or three day event
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Speaker 1: like the draft. You can kind of ship things in.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the logistics of moving people around in Indianapolis
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Speaker 1: is is like the convention center of the Midwest. It's perfect.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to beat. Put it this way,
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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna beat Indianapolis when it comes to the set
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Speaker 1: up in the arrangement that they haven't actually and you
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Speaker 1: know who's gonna hurt the most when this goes to
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Speaker 1: prime time next year? All the steakhouses downtown because everybody's
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Speaker 1: gonna be at work until late at night. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: they'll figure it out that. What do you mean everybody's
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Speaker 1: gonna be working until it because everybody, all the scouts
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Speaker 1: and coaches gonna be at the at the combine. So
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Speaker 1: you don't think the steakhouses are gonna stay open a
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Speaker 1: little later. Maybe they might, of course they will. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they trust me, Jake. The Jets, they're back in the
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Speaker 1: news again. How about that? Like I said, the only
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Speaker 1: team that's not winning right. Head coach Adam Gates said
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Speaker 1: today that Christopher Johnson will pick the next GM. That's
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Speaker 1: the the sitting owner. A great strategic thinker is what
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Speaker 1: they're looking for in New York. Flogs did that that
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Speaker 1: that situation is a mess? I mean, how do you
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Speaker 1: how do you have a general manager that executes the
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Speaker 1: entire offseason plan and then now you get to the
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Speaker 1: point where you're almost to the to the mandatory mini
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Speaker 1: camp stage of your off season, and you fire the
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Speaker 1: general manager, and then you've just hired a coach who
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Speaker 1: got fired where he was at this function not good
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Speaker 1: at all, and it's not a good look eat. Both
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Speaker 1: teams in New York have been the the whipping post
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Speaker 1: for most people in the national media. All right, one
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Speaker 1: more day of otis this week tomorrow. Tags back in
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Speaker 1: the field. Lock's good to see it, Tony, good to
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Speaker 1: see you, too, good to be seen. It's always good
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Speaker 1: to see you. Thanks guys, thanks for our tire crew.
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Speaker 1: I'm JP Shaddock. We'll see you next time. It's Jaguars
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