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Previewing Week 16 vs. Broncos With Spencer Whipple, Matt Dickerson and More · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Week sixteen is here. The Jaguars face so Broncos in
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  Speaker 1: a game with massive AFC playoff implications. JP Shadwick with
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  Speaker 1: you with our countdown to kickoff interviews for the week,
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  Speaker 1: and we start in the locker room where Brian Sexson
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  Speaker 1: caught up with defensive lineman Matt Dickerson, who, after bouncing
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  Speaker 1: around the league as an undrafted player, has now found
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  Speaker 1: a home with his seventh team and eight NFL seasons,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and he had his first career start a
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  Speaker 1: week ago.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: I love the guys in this room, at least on
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  Speaker 3: our side of the ball. And when I first got here,
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  Speaker 3: I was on practice squad and was given a look
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  Speaker 3: to the old line and you kind of build a
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  Speaker 3: bond with them as well. And regardless of that, I
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  Speaker 3: think everyone as soon as you walk in this room,
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  Speaker 3: everyone knows each other, Everyone says up to each other,
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  Speaker 3: everyone's tight, which I've been around a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think the chemistry has matched what we
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  Speaker 3: got here, so and unfortunate to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: It seems to build week to week. You know, some
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  Speaker 4: teams go up and down. I'm sure you've seen that,
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  Speaker 4: but this just seems to kind of stack on top
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  Speaker 4: of each other week after week.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think winning does help brings guys closer and
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  Speaker 3: knowing what we're doing during the week is we're doing
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  Speaker 3: something right. So we just got to keep on improving
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  Speaker 3: and just getting after it.
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  Speaker 4: You wait for the practice squad to a starting job
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  Speaker 4: in December. There's a lot of places in this league
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  Speaker 4: where that doesn't happen. What does that say about this
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  Speaker 4: coaching staff and the way that they approach week to week.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate for the position I'm in. Obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you got to take it with the grain of salt
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  Speaker 3: and you got to work to maintain that just the
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  Speaker 3: way things worked out. But I love this coaching staff,
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  Speaker 3: Liam coach camp Edwards. They're all bought in for us,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what it's all about. It's all about us
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  Speaker 3: and along with the guys here, just building trust with
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  Speaker 3: one another and continuing to build and get better during
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  Speaker 3: the week, which is the most important.
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  Speaker 4: We already talked about chemistry. How about confidence. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you're going into Denver, it's one of the toughest places
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  Speaker 4: to play. I guess the team that's got twelve wins
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  Speaker 4: on the season. Tell me about the confidence a little
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  Speaker 4: bit this team, about the way you're playing right.
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  Speaker 3: No, we understand they're a great team. They got great players,
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  Speaker 3: so do we. And like I said, this week is
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  Speaker 3: very important for us, like it is every week, but
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  Speaker 3: getting better and fixing what we need to improve on.
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  Speaker 3: So we have all the confidence we have one out
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  Speaker 3: there on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: How about I have thought about the guys you're playing
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  Speaker 4: with right now, especially a lot of personality. Josh Trayvon
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  Speaker 4: is different, Eric Garhamstead Devon, tell me a little bit
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  Speaker 4: about that group and how you guys work together.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: We all have different personalities, but I think at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, it all comes down to respect.
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  Speaker 3: We all have respect for one another. Everyone has their
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  Speaker 3: different attributes and we try to learn with those attributes
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  Speaker 3: and just overall this personality wise, I mean, everyone's great,
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  Speaker 3: everyone's fun to get along with. It's we look forward
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  Speaker 3: to coming to work every day. These are long days,
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  Speaker 3: but we make the most out of them and it
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  Speaker 3: helps having those guys around.
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  Speaker 4: What a final thought on why not this team? Right?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's it's playing well at the right time
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  Speaker 4: and things are coming together with confidence in chemistry, is
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  Speaker 4: there any reason why it can't be this time?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think it's I mean, we all want
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  Speaker 3: it to be us, you know. So we all have
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  Speaker 3: confidence in the world, and we love each other and
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  Speaker 3: we want to make it happen.
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  Speaker 4: So sneak one more in then real quick. And that
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  Speaker 4: is just about how you focus when things are big,
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  Speaker 4: the stakes are high. You focus exclusively week to week.
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  Speaker 4: How did you prevent last week thinking about this week?
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  Speaker 4: And how do you this week think about not thinking
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  Speaker 4: about next week?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: I mean coach Liam always constantly talks about being want
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  Speaker 3: to know and we learned from the previous week what
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  Speaker 3: we need to improve on, and then we move on
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  Speaker 3: to the next and you know, just take it day
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  Speaker 3: by day, week by week. And this is our opponent,
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  Speaker 3: so let's keep moving forward each week.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Dempsey catches up with CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike, I think you can. I think the one
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  Speaker 5: thing you noticed about him when you watch it tape
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  Speaker 5: is how much more confidence he has in as received
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  Speaker 5: be his offensive line and he's able to get through
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  Speaker 5: his progressions and get to the throw behind the checkdown.
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  Speaker 5: He's much more willing to stay in there and maybe
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  Speaker 5: step to the left and fire a shot down the
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  Speaker 5: field than he was earlier in the season. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that's added up to a much better quarterback, a
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  Speaker 5: much more confident quarterback. And yeah, Denver's a step up
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  Speaker 5: in terms of what they will face. But the way
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  Speaker 5: he's playing right now and the way he's reading things
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  Speaker 5: out and playing with confidence, I definitely think he can
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  Speaker 5: have success against that defense.
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  Speaker 6: As far as the passing game goes, Pete, you figure
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  Speaker 6: Patser Tan is going to try to take out one
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  Speaker 6: of the top couple of wide receivers. Is this a
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  Speaker 6: game where your secondary, your third guy, your tight end
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  Speaker 6: needs to step up and play a bigger role.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because, look, sir Tan hasn't been as good this year.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's been banged up some and he just
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  Speaker 5: quite frankly, hasn't been as good as he was a
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  Speaker 5: year ago. So it's not like if he gets on
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  Speaker 5: a guy, you got to stay away from him. You
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  Speaker 5: saw Green Bay go after him a little bit. He
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  Speaker 5: did get an interception, but you can go after him
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  Speaker 5: and you know, Riley Maull on the other side as
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  Speaker 5: a ton of you know, penalties and holds and grabs
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  Speaker 5: and interference and everything else that you can attack him too.
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  Speaker 5: But I also think you mentioned the tight end. I
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  Speaker 5: think there's going to be opportunities in the middle of
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  Speaker 5: the field for Strange to get some balls on his
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  Speaker 5: way as well. Got to spread it around, and they've
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  Speaker 5: done a great job of that in recent weeks, and
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  Speaker 5: I think that's going to be the formula today to
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  Speaker 5: try and attack that defense.
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  Speaker 6: And of course travs CTN playing outstanding football lately as well.
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  Speaker 1: Pete.
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  Speaker 6: He's got a dozen touchdowns on the year. No bagel
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  Speaker 6: toot in this week, and you are playing at a
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  Speaker 6: mile high altitude, so you know a lot of more
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  Speaker 6: pressure than we've seen on Laquin Allen and whoever else
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  Speaker 6: needs to supplement that running back group this week.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and m quinn Allen's done a nice job. When
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  Speaker 5: he's got on the field, he hasn't got a ton
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  Speaker 5: of carries, and so that's the thing when he comes on,
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  Speaker 5: what does that mean will he get more carries? Is
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  Speaker 5: he want of those guys that can handle the carries
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  Speaker 5: if he does get him? But when he's on the field,
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  Speaker 5: and particularly he's important when you look at those pass
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  Speaker 5: rushers and his ability to chip and him in the
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  Speaker 5: ribs on his way out and stuff like that. So
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  Speaker 5: I think they'll be fine with Quinn Allen. And you
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  Speaker 5: mentioned it, he can's been really good. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 5: been great catching the ball out of the backfield, and
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  Speaker 5: he's just added a nice little dynamic to the offense,
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  Speaker 5: particularly as a receiver.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and we talked about how good a game Trevor
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  Speaker 6: Lawrence had Denver's quarterback Bo Knicks four touchdowns last weekend,
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  Speaker 6: maybe his best game of the year as well. Pete,
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  Speaker 6: what has made him as successful as he's been in
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  Speaker 6: his first couple of years in the league.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think initially it was an athletic ability and
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  Speaker 5: the way they call plays and got him outside the pocket.
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  Speaker 5: I think in recent weeks it's his ability to stand
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  Speaker 5: in there and make some throws. I mean, you know
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  Speaker 5: that was one thing about him. He wasn't willing to
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  Speaker 5: stay there and make the throws down the field. I
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  Speaker 5: mean a couple of weeks ago he completed thirty passes
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  Speaker 5: for barely over two hundred yards. But then last week
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  Speaker 5: he came back and he hit those deep shots down
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  Speaker 5: the field and made those thoughs. So I still think
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  Speaker 5: the way to play him is to keep him inside
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  Speaker 5: the pocket. And if Jacksonville could keep him inside the pocket,
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  Speaker 5: I think they have they can have some success slowing him.
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, the way they're playing right now,
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  Speaker 5: he's playing at a high level, but I think the
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  Speaker 5: way to slow him down a little bit to keep
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  Speaker 5: him inside the pocket.
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  Speaker 6: Pete Prisco here with us, said Pete. I think a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people when Evan Ingram went to Denver, thought
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  Speaker 6: he'd play the joker role in Sean Payton's offense. He
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  Speaker 6: hasn't been nearly as productive as I thought he would
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  Speaker 6: be this year. He'll probably get match up at times
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  Speaker 6: with Devin Lloyd, who's had a great year but in
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  Speaker 6: past years has been a liability and coverage. Who wins
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  Speaker 6: that match up? If they do get singled.
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  Speaker 5: Up, you know, it'd be interesting, Mike, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if they'll single him up all that much.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they play a lot of zone and that's
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  Speaker 5: the way they want to play, so I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if they'll single him up much. But you're right, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they thought he would come in and be a big
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  Speaker 5: part of the passing game and it hasn't quite worked.
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  Speaker 5: Out now. Having said that he's more than capable, then
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  Speaker 5: you know, go sit down in some zones, get some
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  Speaker 5: easy throws to the quarterback and get yourself you know, five, six,
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  Speaker 5: seven catches, And I just don't think the big players
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  Speaker 5: are down there for him, particularly catch this defense. So
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  Speaker 5: I would think they would look to the outside of
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  Speaker 5: the outside receivers.
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  Speaker 6: When you look at Denver and you see that they
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  Speaker 6: won eleven in the row, but they've won ten out
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  Speaker 6: of twelve one possession games this year. Is that the
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  Speaker 6: sign of a good team knowing how to win the
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  Speaker 6: close ones? Or is that a team that you look
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  Speaker 6: at say, well, maybe they're a little bit more gettible
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  Speaker 6: than the record indicates.
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  Speaker 5: I would think they're more gettible than the record indicates.
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  Speaker 5: And not only that, I mean of all the teams
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  Speaker 5: that have had eleven game winning streaks in the history
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  Speaker 5: of the league, their scoring margin is the smallest of
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  Speaker 5: any of them. So that tells you they've been in
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  Speaker 5: a lot of close games and found ways to win them.
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  Speaker 5: That's a look, it's a testament to the coach. Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 5: is a testament to bo Nicks in key moments. But again,
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  Speaker 5: you can't be living that way all the time, and
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  Speaker 5: they've done that against some bad teams too, so I
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  Speaker 5: think it's more of a sign that they are gettible.
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  Speaker 6: All right, give us your prediction for today, Pete.
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  Speaker 5: I think Jacksonvill goes out there and wins the game.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're physical. I think they control bow knicks
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  Speaker 5: inside the pocket. I think Josh heinz Allen has a
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  Speaker 5: big day rushing the passer. And I think it's going
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  Speaker 5: to be one of those days where they shock the
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  Speaker 5: world and people start paying more attention to the Jacksonvill Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: I had a conversation this week with Benjamin Albright. He
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  Speaker 1: covers the Broncos with KOI Radio and Denver, and he
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  Speaker 1: provided insight of the Broncos run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly not mean this much for these two teams.
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  Speaker 2: I think there was some cautious optimism in Denver that
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  Speaker 2: they were a repeat playoff team based on you know,
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  Speaker 2: last year, as far as that kind of stuff goes.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean even in Denver, there was no way
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  Speaker 2: anyone here thought that they'd be in the driver's seat
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  Speaker 2: for the number one seed or you know, riding the
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  Speaker 2: top of the AFC West. But Kansas City eliminated at
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  Speaker 2: this point. There was in their wildest dream there was
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  Speaker 2: nobody here that felt that those were those were possibilities.
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  Speaker 6: The Jacksonville thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's from the outside looking in,
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  Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of optimism with you know,
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  Speaker 2: with Liam Cohen, what he did with Baker Mayfield and
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  Speaker 2: that offense taken off that kind of stuff. But and
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  Speaker 2: then of course there's a vested interest here in Colorado
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  Speaker 2: because of Travis Hunter, who's obviously not playing, but Travis
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  Speaker 2: was such a big deal here in Colorado, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think there was a there was kind of an
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  Speaker 2: eye on that as far as that kind of stuff goes.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think in the wildest dreams, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anybody here would have predicted this.
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  Speaker 1: Benmin All Bright KOA Radio in Denver, what has been
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  Speaker 1: the most important part of Sean Payton's addition to this
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  Speaker 1: franchise and what has he brought that that was missing
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  Speaker 1: over the last seven eight years.
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  Speaker 4: Standards, he raised the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you think of Sean Payton, and you know, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: the resume between Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy is not
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  Speaker 2: really that different. Whatever you think of him, at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, seven and nine is the floor.
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  Speaker 2: He's got standards. Seven and nine is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the floor. And so I think that's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: You look at who was there before him and Nate Hackett,
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  Speaker 2: and that's someone I'm sure you guys Jacksonville a little
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  Speaker 2: bit familiar with. You know, Nate was Nate was a
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  Speaker 2: fun guy. Everybody liked Nate Hackett. But the question was
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  Speaker 2: could he coach? And he certainly answered that with a
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  Speaker 2: resounding no. I think it's in and I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: little anecdote here. I think it's it's funny, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: weird in hindsight. When he was here, uh, and he's
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  Speaker 2: he's paling around with the media practice a little bit
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  Speaker 2: and he said, Hey, you want to get out there
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  Speaker 2: and run a route real quick? And I'm like, what
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing here? This is I mean, you've
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  Speaker 2: got limited reps in a professional football setting and you're
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  Speaker 2: asking if they want to want to run a round
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  Speaker 2: and practice, like, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: That would never fly with Sean Payton, as much more
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  Speaker 2: difficult and less genial as he is. There's certainly a
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  Speaker 2: level of professionalism and a standard here, you know in
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  Speaker 2: Denver that was missing before Ben.
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  Speaker 1: General Albright with us KOA radio in Denver. He's got
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  Speaker 1: his quarterback now too. Apparently bow next seems like the
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  Speaker 1: guy for the future here, right.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's the way it looks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Bo. I mean, if you look statistically, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: Bo isn't appreciably better than Russ other than not taking sacks,
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  Speaker 2: which which Russ would, you know, I think everybody knows
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  Speaker 2: how Russ does with that. Russ had a few more fumbles,
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  Speaker 2: but the difference otherwise isn't appreciably different. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: offense looked bad for three quarters with Russ and then
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  Speaker 2: he would pull something out of his backside and have
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  Speaker 2: a game winning drive when Sean was here. But the
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  Speaker 2: cost difference is something else too. It allows you, with
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  Speaker 2: this rookie contract, to be able to pay this defense,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And that's I think right now we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to see if bo can grow into something a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more because when it comes time to pay him,
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  Speaker 2: and you're not going to be able to be able
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  Speaker 2: to pay the offensive line what you're paying them, and
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  Speaker 2: and you know, and and the defense, everybody on defense
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  Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. You'll need a quarterback
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  Speaker 2: it's able to carry a football team. And and Bo
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  Speaker 2: has has the week's gone on, continue to mature and
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  Speaker 2: kind of point that's the direction they're headed. So that's
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  Speaker 2: been a big part of it. I think his his
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  Speaker 2: kind of energy is infectious. He's a football dude. He
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  Speaker 2: grew up around ball. His dad was a coach. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's just kind of got that that, you know that
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  Speaker 2: football is my life mentality, and dudes tend to gravitate
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  Speaker 2: to that.
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin, Let's touch on this defense ranked number one and
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of categories this year, but they don't have
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  Speaker 1: takeaways as much. What's what's going on there? Why is
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  Speaker 1: the circumstances, what's the situation?
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  Speaker 2: Well, some of that's opportunity, you know, I mean there's
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  Speaker 2: there's been some missed and failed opportunities. But I think
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  Speaker 2: the other part of this is when you're getting so
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  Speaker 2: many sacks, unless you're getting a strip sack, well you
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  Speaker 2: can't intercept the ball because the quarterback's down. He's been
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's been sacked. And so I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a there's a part to this that, you know, given
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  Speaker 2: it take you look at the vic Fangio defense, for instance,
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  Speaker 2: which is what was previously in place here before you know,
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  Speaker 2: Vance went back to what it did. Vic Fangio's defense is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's tight front, drop everybody back, and
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  Speaker 2: try to pick you off. It is a very low
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  Speaker 2: sack defense. It just does not get as much pressure.
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  Speaker 2: And you turn around look at what Vance is running,
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  Speaker 2: which is a variant of Wade Phillips defense, which is
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  Speaker 2: send everything at the at the quarterback. We're not running
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  Speaker 2: zone on the back of well, it's it's mostly man.
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  Speaker 2: There is some zone, but it just depends on the
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  Speaker 2: leverage rules, but it's it's designed to sack you and
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  Speaker 2: put you in negative situations and then hopefully try to
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  Speaker 2: turn you over and those kinds of things. They just
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  Speaker 2: haven't had much luck with that, although they got a
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  Speaker 2: couple against Green Bay and people are hoping that that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, sort of takes things off.
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  Speaker 4: As far as the.
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  Speaker 2: Defense goes, you're looking at it mostly manned, single high
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  Speaker 2: type defense. They try to disguise things a little bit
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  Speaker 2: here or there. It's got some leverage rules where it
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: turns into zone on inside leverage and all that, so
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: it's not it's not a pure man defense, but then
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: nothing's a pure nanny defense anymore, you know. But overall
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: it's it's been highly effective, and I think Vance's has
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: coached his way to a second try at a head
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: coaching opportunity after the season.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Ben's all bright KOA radio in Denver. How about maybe
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: a deeper player on this roster on both sides of
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: the ball that's not in the marquee. Who's somebody that
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: you need to watch out for both sides of the
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: football for the Broncos.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, on defense, a couple of guys, the backup nose
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Tagle Malcolm Roach. He gets almost as many snaps as
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: DJ Jones. He gets a lot of push, and when
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: you've got a three man front of him, Zach Allen
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: and John Franklin Myers, it's tough to pick who you're
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: gonna double up because all three are strong guys that
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: can get after the quarterback and free things up for
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: the linebackers to shoot, whether that's Benito or you know,
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Singleton or or Cooper. And then in the secondary, Jatte
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Barn the rookie. You know, he's not one of the
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: starting corners, but they sort of use him as a
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: mismatch chess piece guy. They bring him into cover athletic
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: tight ends. You know, he's he's kind of and he's
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: probably gonna get more work with Brandon Jones, the safety
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: out now they move him around in that secondary. He
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: might get a little more work back there where PJ.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Locke will start. He'll he'll get a little more rep
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: on the offensive side. Nate Atkins just back off injury.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: You know, he's an h back and they love to
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: use him in the low red zone to get touchdowns
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: because nobody's you know, they're all covering all the other guys.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Atkins is. He can play full back, he can play
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: tight end. You can split him out wide. He's athletic enough.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: He doesn't look like it, but he's athletic enough you
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: can split him out. In fact, he got a he
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: got a touchdown this year before his injury off a
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: fake screen you know, fake screen wheel, uh, because nobody
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: and nobody was covered him. He's he's just that dude.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: So he's kind of the unsung secret sneaky. I mean,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: if you're a if you're a wagering person, you wanted
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: to put something down on any time touchdown, that's the
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: sneaky play with the with the best.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Odds final one here. The AFC playoff race is as
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: wide open as we've seen it in a long time.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs are going to Coon in a few weeks.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: That's probably the reason why. But that's got to give
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the Broncos a lot of hope in that division. Certainly,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Jaguar is a team like the upstart Jags. They're in
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the hunt too. And it seems like a whole new
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: world in the AFC this year.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that it does, and at a fascinating kind of realignment.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I think when you when you look at things, some
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: of the traditional powers are struggling. You look, we already
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: mentioned Kansasity, look at the Ravens. They're struggling too. You know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Buffalo hasn't been what they've been the last couple of years.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: They're still in the hunt though, And and I'll say
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: this from a from a Broncos perspective, they're They're toughest
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: games have come out of the AFC South. They lost
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to the to the Colts. I think if CJ. Stroud
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: hadn't got hurt in that game against the Texans, they
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: might have lost that one. So their toughest games to
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: sort of you know, come out of the AFC South Sands, Tennessee,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: which we all know about. So this is kind of
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: fascinating looking at the realignment. I think that's why we
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: love this game, love this league, is because the parody
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: eventually shifts things back and forth. There's an ebb and
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: flow and nobody aside from the Chiefs and the Patriots
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, you get a little mini dynasties,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: but you don't get just a choke hold on everything
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: that makes it impossible for other teams to eventually build
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and compete. And look at this you got. You've got
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: two teams that really haven't been I hesitate to use
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the work relevant, but it's sort of apropos in quite
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: some time now, all of a sudden, making a lot
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: of noise here in the AFC, with with potential and
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: possibility of being you know, top four seeds.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence is playing at a high level
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: as of late. Brian Sexton caught up with quarterbacks coach
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Spencer Whipple to find out why.
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's doing a great job, you know himself, running
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: the show, the operation. I think it's just a culmination
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: of all the guys working, putting in the work. The
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: offense you can see is clicking, kind of getting more
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: comfortable each week, and I think that's really just those
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: guys putting in the work. Trevor has been working endlessly.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: You know, he comes prepared each day, he works on
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: his own, comes in, gets more work, always eager to
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: improve and keep it going. I think that rubs off
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: on the rest of the guys and they've done the
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: same thing. And you've seen a lot of that growth
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: throughout the whole year, and it's been really fun to watch.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: He was always going to take some time right a
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: new system and new coaching staff. We don't have much
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: patience in professional sports anymore. But to see him coming
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: alive at this point of the season November and December,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: where things come, you know, to a head, it seems
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: like it's a really important time.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great time for sure, and I think,
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: you know, he'll say the same thing, and I think
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: a lot of times with an offense, it just takes
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: takes a little time to kind of work some things out.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: First yere in the system, guys getting comfortable, and then
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: also finding out what we're what we're good at and
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: what we like, you know, what the guys like to run,
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: what they see, what Trevor's you know, comfortable with. And
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: he's got extreme ownership right now. He's done a great
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: job preparing each week, every day to allowing himself to
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: play comfortably and to play free like he's been doing
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: every Sunday. And I think that just goes back to
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: all the work that he's put in up until this point.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I've got to get you to define extreme ownership. I'm
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: assuming that's a Jocko will Nick reference.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: I don't know. Yeah, it's just something. It's just something
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: that he's kind of done a great job of of.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: You know. Now we're at the point where he's comfortably
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: go out there in any setting and able to operate
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: the offense, able to get us into the right play,
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: get us into the right checks. He's seeing the defense,
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: he's seeing coverage, he's seeing things before they happen, which
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: takes a lot of you know, preparation throughout the week
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: in terms of finding the film and watching the film
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: and seeing what they're about to do. And that can
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: make his you know, process much easier come game day
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: because he's seen that before and tape, he's seen those things,
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: he's wrapped them in practice. You know, he's gotten some
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: extra work with the guys after practice, making sure he
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: gets the throws he needs to get to and I
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: think that's just allowing him to play comfortably out there
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: each day. And so the work he's put in is
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: really shown right now.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: It would be easy for me to point to the
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: acquisition of Jacoby Myers and say that was a point
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: where it started to turn, but clearly that is a
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: very important acquisition for him.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, Jacoby's been unbelievable. I mean he just does a
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: great job, you know at the receiver position. You know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: the way he's able to run his routes be friendly
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: for the quarterback get open. But also the job he
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: does in the run game think is something that's been
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: really really fun to watch too. The way he goes
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: and digs out safety selfless. You know, he'll do whatever
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: it takes in order to make each play successful. And
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: then you see just has a great feel and a
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: great knowledge of the game and able to get on
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: the same page for what Trevor's looking for. And you
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: know they're able to talk and some great dialogue in
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: terms of you know, ironing out some details within each play.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: So he's been he's been incredible. He's been a great,
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: great acquisition for us.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Peyton Manning always said after playing ray Lewis and those
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: great Baltimore Ravens teams that he was mentally exhausted after
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: that game. Do you suppose your quarterback will be the
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: same way against this Broncos defense this week.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great challenge they do. They do a
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: great job. PJ and I were together in Arizona, so
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: I get to see a lot of what yeah, he
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: brings as a coach and a coordinator, and it's a
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: really impressive stuff he does. He does a great job,
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: and their team, you know, presents a great challenge for us,
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: and I think the guys are really excited and you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: just go about it, you know, with the preparation how
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: we've been doing it, and you know, watch the film,
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: you get with the me get guys on the field,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: you know, after those guys are working and and uh,
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: you know, spending a little more time on their own.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: I think at this point in the season too, that
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: that's where you kind of see some of the growth
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: within the within the team, the players talking to players,
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: coaching and uh getting in the room and watching film together.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: So that's that's the cool part about where we're at
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: as an offense and a and a unit. Everybody's pushing
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: each other and you know they want to just keep
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: going to new heights.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Trevor's so calm and even keeled, and I see that
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: in this football team. Are they adopting adapting to him?
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he does a great job I think in terms
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: of when bullets are flying and things are happening fast
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: around you, whether it be in practiced or definitely on
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: on game day, able to kind of calm everybody around.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: I think that comes with playing the quarterback position is
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: having that that demeanor and having that you know, whatever's
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: going on, I can be the kind of the calm
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: and the storm. And he's done a great job with that,
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: you know, whether it's ups and downs, whatever's going on,
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: keeping that that level that's steady, that steady presence out
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: there for the guys in order to keep them, uh
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: in a in a mode where we can operate in
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: any condition when things are maybe not going our way
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: and then be able to bounce back. I think you've
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: seen that a lot this season and that's you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: a lot of tribute to to Trevor and the way
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: he's kind of handled what's going on throughout the course
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: of the game, the ebbs and flows and him staying
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: consistent and keep firing and keep letting it rip. And
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: you know, it's been a fun, fun thing to see
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: and it's a great mindset that he does possess and
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: it rubs off from all the guys around him.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: December in Denver, with so much on the line, What
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: a fun time to be a Jaguars fan. Folks are
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: enjoying it. I hope you do too. Best of luck
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: today and Merry Christmas.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, thank you. It's a looking
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: forward to It's a great challenge each week. You know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: it's a whatever team you play, it's going to be
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: It's the NFL, so it's a it's it's always a
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: great opportunity to get to get to go against him,
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: and then you know where they're at and their record.
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: It's a it's gonna be fun to go on the
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: road and play against these guys. So guys are looking
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: forward to it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And finally, our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. It's a huge ballgame in Denver
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: this week, the one seed Broncos the three seed Jaguars.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Does get much bigger than this and the regular season.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: In fact, bredis one of the biggest games in recent
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Jaguars regular season history, the first Jags regular season game
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: with both teams with ten or more wins since nineteen
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: ninety nine.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: It's been a while.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: I am doing great? Do you guys go and find
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: stats that it just blows my mind? But and again
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: to add to that, JP, I believe that this is
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: the Broncos' biggest game since their Super Bowl under you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: Peyton Manning when he was there as a Bronco. It's
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: meaningful for them. You know, they want to secure home
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: fill advantage. They've been They're undefeated at home this year,
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: so they want to continue that trend. And this game
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: is as more important for them as it is for
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: the Jaguars, who's a team that's protecting position. You know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: they're a game ahead of the Texans in the division
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: race and they need this one. You know, they have
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: to continue to play on a consistent basic as they
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: have been and continue to show that this is our
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: identity is real. You know, this isn't you know, Doctor Jacko,
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: mister high this is who we are. You know, we're
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: coming to prove a point. You know, they've been riding
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: that disrespect theme and earning respect. They got to continue
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: to do it. You know, last week coach Cohen said
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: respect thing's just gonna come. You gotta go get it,
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: you know, And and I think they're out to do that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: This would be a way to go get it, certainly.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And the quarterback's been playing like he wants to do
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: it as well. Nine touchdowns no interceptions over the last
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: three games. We know what he did last week. Of course,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that's trending the right way. And they've got weapons all around.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: They've got a running game. They're going up against one
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of the best defenses in football this week, the Denver Broncos,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: with a pass rush for the back end, they rank
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: highly in most every category. Where can Trevor Lawrence go
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: from here?
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: You know, Trevor can go as the old line goes.
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: You know, Trevor can go as the run game goes.
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: You just mentioned it, JP. They got a great pass rush,
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: they got a great back end. I do not expect
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: this to be a high passing yardage type of day.
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: But I do expect Trevor to continue playing as he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: played with control. He's been protecting the football of late.
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: He's been throwing and getting the ball to the open receivers.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: You know, he's not just chunking the deep going for
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: home runs. He's taking advantage of what the defense gives him.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: And he's going to have to do that versus this
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: Broncos defense. They're fast, they're smart, they're young, they're discipline,
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: they just want to fly around. So he's going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: have to take advantage of what they give them until
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: they make a mistake. What you get with youth is
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: oftentimes you get mistakes, and those guys can get, you know,
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: caught up in situations where they're trying to make a
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: play because of how big this game is, and you
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: want to take advantage of those moments. But you gotta
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: have patience, you gotta have poise. He's gonna be loud
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: and I think Trevor, their leader, is in position to
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: take him that way. But it starts with a great
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: run game. I expect Travis dt In to get his
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: bulk carries this week. I expect coach Cohen's gonna challenge
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: that offensive line to continue their trend of no sacks
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: and one hundred plus one hundred and fifty plus yards
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: on the ground. On the flip side of the defense is
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: gonna have to stop their run game and try and
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: neutralize bow Knicks.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Fret Taylor with us prout of the Jaguars running back
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and yeah, let's flip it around now and talk about
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that Jaguars defense. It's you know, it's not as highly
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: ranked across the bord as Denver. You know what, they're
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: doing some things pretty well. Obviously they're stopping the run game,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: they're taking the football away. But this is a different
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: feel with bow Knicks this week. A mobile quarterback. He
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: can move things, get off schedule, and that's when things
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: can it weird.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, if the Jacks hadn't played Kansas City
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: on a Monday night, you know I would I would
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: probably throw out there that this is the best quarterback
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: that they that they played. I do know they played
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: Justin Herbert. And although I am a Justin Herbert fan,
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: I am a huge fan of boat Nicks. Just his demeanor,
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: you know, the way he wields the team and the
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: way he approaches the game. It gives me a little
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: bit of Philip Rivers type attitude, and you know, I'll
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: do whatever it takes to win a game. But you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: you have to throw the mobility in there. You have
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: to throw the arm accuracy in there, the arm strength.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: He does it all man. So it's gonna be a challenge.
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: It's going to require a lot of discipline. The defensive ends,
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: they're not gonna be able to crash on their pass rush.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: They're gonna have to maintain their their laying assignment and
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: stay outside and contain him so he doesn't get outside
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: of the pocket straight drop back passes. The interior defensive guys,
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: they're gonna have to maintain their gap integrity and stay
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: in their lanes as well. The secondary they're gonna have
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: to make sure they're cover cover, cover cover, you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: throughout the duration of the play and hopes that the
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: sacks or the upfront get there with pressure. So this
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: might be one of their biggest tests this year JP.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: So we'll we'll see what comes here later.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they think their contenders were about to find out
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: because the road environment tough road environment in Denver.
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: Let's wrap with Liam Cohen.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: We talk about him most every week, but he's going
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: up against Sean Payton, who has a Super Bowl, of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: course in New Orleans, and it's his third year now
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: in Denver and they went to the playoffs last year.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: They've kind of turned some things around Denver. Lee was
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: trying to do the same thing around here and seems
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to be maybe a little bit ahead of schedule in
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: doing it. How about the matchup of wits this week
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: with the head coaches.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: I mean, you have experience and Sean Payton, who's been
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: around you mentioned he has the Super Bowl, took some
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: time off away from the game in return. It seemed
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: that the return wasn't quite welcoming in year one, but
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: they were going through some stuff trying to find some
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: adjustments the quarterback and Sean didn't mesh. They were able
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: to figure that piece out, went out and drafted bow
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: knicks and insert bow knicks, and he's turned things around
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: for them. Coach Cohen, you know, younger coach, very energetic, passionate,
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: very smart, great play design guy and he's on his way.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: You know, the only thing he doesn't have that Sean
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: has his time and that experience. But coach Cohen as
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: a head coach. He's on his way and say, hopefully
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: we find our way in San Francisco for the last
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: game of the season. But I will say they are
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: trending in the right direct and I'm happy that coach
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: Cohen was the higher Fred.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Always a pleasure.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Big ball game in Denver.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Will talk to you afterwards.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: Huge ball game in Denver, Man, this is gonna be interesting, man,
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: looking forward to it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: The ten and four Jacksonville Jaguars meet the twelve and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: two Denver Broncos in Week sixteen.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Enjoy the game.