Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Matt Doocey: Mental Health Minister on the decreasing wait times for mental health services
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Another target's update this morning. This one mental health fast
- 0:03Speaker 1: access to primary care achieved or beaten Specialist service metal beaten.
- 0:08Speaker 1: In the South Island, the number of people getting access
- 0:10Speaker 1: to primary support within a week jump from sixty six
- 0:12Speaker 1: percent to ninety one percent. This is called a four
- 0:16Speaker 1: e D wait times for mental health patients. Long way
- 0:18Speaker 1: to go. They're the same with staffing. Matt Docy, mental
- 0:20Speaker 1: Health Minister. Good morning ording Ryan. Are there fewer mental
- 0:23Speaker 1: people or is the system faster?
- 0:27Speaker 2: Well, the first thing I'd say just a big thank
- 0:29Speaker 2: you to the frontline mental health staff. They do an
- 0:31Speaker 2: amazing job and this is an ability to shine a
- 0:34Speaker 2: light on them. Look, there's still a long way to
- 0:37Speaker 2: go when you look at the veriability within the different
- 0:41Speaker 2: twenty health districts in New Zealand. But comes back to
- 0:45Speaker 2: what sort of country do we want to live in?
- 0:47Speaker 2: And that's why I've set targets one week for primary
- 0:50Speaker 2: mental health support and three week for specialists.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Yeah, but are you improving on some of these figures
- 0:56Speaker 1: because there are fewer people requiring them? Or is the
- 0:58Speaker 1: system faster?
- 1:01Speaker 2: It's definitely faster. So if you look at a primary
- 1:04Speaker 2: mental health over the last four quarters, so we're going
- 1:07Speaker 2: to remember these are the first time we've ever set
- 1:10Speaker 2: targets for mental health in New Zealand. We've now got
- 1:13Speaker 2: twelve months worth of data. It does bounce around to
- 1:15Speaker 2: weep it, but if you look at primary mental health,
- 1:18Speaker 2: we're seeing a significant increase in numbers from around fifty
- 1:22Speaker 2: two thousand people are quarter up to but over sixty thousand.
- 1:26Speaker 1: So the numbers of people needing help are going up
- 1:29Speaker 1: and you're able to get them through even faster than
- 1:33Speaker 1: when they were fewer.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Very much so, because when these targets increase, as in
- 1:38Speaker 2: the percentage of people are getting one week support or
- 1:42Speaker 2: three week, the inverse is happening, which means the wasting
- 1:45Speaker 2: time is actually going down, which means more people can
- 1:48Speaker 2: be seen. And when you think about mental health, it's
- 1:52Speaker 2: a real red flag for people to be stuck on
- 1:54Speaker 2: weightless and so actually timiness is important. So that's why
- 1:59Speaker 2: three out of the five targets are around access.
- 2:02Speaker 1: How did these improvements compare to pre COVID, You know,
- 2:04Speaker 1: are we just getting back to where we were or
- 2:06Speaker 1: are we even better than that?
- 2:09Speaker 2: Oh? The difficulty is this is the first time we've
- 2:12Speaker 2: set targets for mental health in New Zealand, so as
- 2:15Speaker 2: the first mental health minister when I came in to
- 2:17Speaker 2: set these targets. So now we've only got twelve months
- 2:21Speaker 2: versus worth of data. But just to be clear, I'm
- 2:25Speaker 2: not a target fundamentalist. For me, the magic of these
- 2:29Speaker 2: targets is to have a line in the sand and
- 2:32Speaker 2: work with my officials to say what worked well to
- 2:35Speaker 2: get us there, what didn't work so well, what can
- 2:38Speaker 2: we improve next time? And you get that continuous improvement approach.
- 2:42Speaker 1: All of this. Does all of this mean that we'll
- 2:44Speaker 1: have fewer suicides?
- 2:46Speaker 2: Well, ultimately what we want to do is ensure people
- 2:48Speaker 2: in distress get support as quick as possible and hopefully
- 2:53Speaker 2: that will lead to fewer suicides.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Because what's the rate of them. How many deaths are
- 2:56Speaker 1: ye by suicide in New Zealand?
- 2:58Speaker 2: Well, sadly last year we lost six hundred and seventeen kiwis.
- 3:04Speaker 2: We haven't got the latest provisional statistics that will come
- 3:07Speaker 2: out I think by the end of October.
- 3:10Speaker 1: What would you like that to be? You know, you've
- 3:12Speaker 1: got to target all that.
- 3:14Speaker 2: No, we don't have a target for our suicide numbers,
- 3:18Speaker 2: because clearly one suicide is too many. I think when
- 3:22Speaker 2: you look at the rate per population, you know we're
- 3:26Speaker 2: working for that to be declining.
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