Latest / Cosmic Peach / OCCULT COUNTRY MUSIC (Feat. Sean McCann)
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- 0:35Speaker 3: Trigger Warner, This podcast may include explicit content that will
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- 1:06Speaker 1: So I recently just put out an episode I think
- 1:11Speaker 1: it was maybe two weeks ago where I've been kind
- 1:14Speaker 1: of like depressed and I wanted to reinvigorate myself. So
- 1:18Speaker 1: I started looking back into the Laurel Canyons somewhere. And
- 1:22Speaker 1: I've said this so many times, but there isn't enough
- 1:25Speaker 1: research you can do, and it's too big for one person.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Even it's too big for just me to cover it
- 1:31Speaker 1: and find everything. But something that you had texted me
- 1:36Speaker 1: about that caught my attention is there is another Laurel
- 1:39Speaker 1: Canyon esque type of movement that went on in Tennessee
- 1:45Speaker 1: with Nashville. And I don't know about you, Sean, but
- 1:49Speaker 1: I'm a huge country music lover and I grew up
- 1:52Speaker 1: listening to all of those artists. I mean, my family
- 1:58Speaker 1: is a bunch of Hicks, but we all listen to
- 2:01Speaker 1: country even to this day. And I feel like this
- 2:04Speaker 1: is going to be triggering.
- 2:05Speaker 3: For me very good. I'm very happy for that, because
- 2:09Speaker 3: like that, when it's when you're triggered. That means that
- 2:12Speaker 3: you're eroding away the old ideas that need to be
- 2:14Speaker 3: cleaned out. You know. My friend Mark Devlin says no
- 2:19Speaker 3: more heroes, and it's really true. I kept trying to
- 2:22Speaker 3: cling on to Roger Waters, you know, and then I
- 2:25Speaker 3: heard quote Roger Waters saying that Bill Gates is a hero.
- 2:28Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, okay, even though he's like, you know,
- 2:32Speaker 3: fighting for Palestine, like God bless him, somebody has to like.
- 2:35Speaker 3: But it's it's still depressing, you know. You got to know.
- 2:39Speaker 3: We shouldn't have heroes anymore. And we are all unique individuals,
- 2:43Speaker 3: you know, and I think that we should recognize our
- 2:47Speaker 3: own power and what we we can do, you know,
- 2:49Speaker 3: in the world, instead of looking at others and be
- 2:51Speaker 3: like they're great. Oh, they're they're great. You know. We
- 2:54Speaker 3: can all create music, we can all like whatever.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I literally have a piano behind me right now.
- 3:02Speaker 1: But yeah, So I grew up in a super musical family.
- 3:05Speaker 1: We all play, we all sing, and we all were like,
- 3:09Speaker 1: we sang in church a lot too. But my mom
- 3:11Speaker 1: had a country music band and she sang Reba McIntyre
- 3:16Speaker 1: and dressed like Riba. I was so cute. And that's
- 3:19Speaker 1: actually where she met my dad and then they kind
- 3:22Speaker 1: of formed a new country music band together and it
- 3:26Speaker 1: was called Whiskey River and now here I am. And
- 3:29Speaker 1: it's all because of love for country music. I did
- 3:33Speaker 1: grow up listening to all the greats, you know, Loretta Lynn,
- 3:37Speaker 1: Crystal Gale, all of them. I love country music. So
- 3:41Speaker 1: rip my heart out, Sean, put it on a platter,
- 3:44Speaker 1: stab it and bleed it out.
- 3:46Speaker 3: This is a wonderful place to start because the family
- 3:51Speaker 3: connection is really the root of what is being attacked
- 3:58Speaker 3: with this whole genre that was created. And we can
- 4:01Speaker 3: talk about the creation of it, but really, when you
- 4:04Speaker 3: look back at country music where it started, you can find, well,
- 4:10Speaker 3: I guess it started with the colored music, you know,
- 4:14Speaker 3: the they would make black records and stuff, and then
- 4:18Speaker 3: they started promoting they like, well, it was like yodeling
- 4:25Speaker 3: and like picking guitar and banjo and that's that type
- 4:29Speaker 3: of thing. And the banjo originated in Africa, Like that's
- 4:32Speaker 3: an African instrument, come to hear, So it's kind of
- 4:34Speaker 3: a melding of those. But really it kicked off when
- 4:39Speaker 3: they took a hold of it and they started to
- 4:42Speaker 3: create this thing and this what I mean by this
- 4:45Speaker 3: thing is like the the original band, Like what we
- 4:48Speaker 3: would listen to is like the Carter family, right, and
- 4:51Speaker 3: that is a like a real family singing together, playing
- 4:56Speaker 3: wholesome music about love and tradition and like all these
- 5:00Speaker 3: things good family, right, And that they gave us that
- 5:05Speaker 3: to latch onto, and that right there replaced our own family,
- 5:11Speaker 3: which is weird to say, but if you think about it,
- 5:13Speaker 3: in the time of the Carter family and before that,
- 5:16Speaker 3: it was there was the the inception of the radio,
- 5:21Speaker 3: and everybody had a radio in their house during the
- 5:25Speaker 3: depression because they couldn't afford to buy the records, right,
- 5:30Speaker 3: And so in the old days, like my grandmother included
- 5:35Speaker 3: she had many instruments. There would be a music room
- 5:39Speaker 3: where people would play music. Your family together would play
- 5:42Speaker 3: music like on a Sunday or something. Everybody get together
- 5:45Speaker 3: and sing and play. And that's one of the things,
- 5:48Speaker 3: like you know, we were all taught music, and it's
- 5:50Speaker 3: another way of thinking. It's another language. It's like artistic
- 5:53Speaker 3: and it's it's wonderful to help children grow in their
- 5:58Speaker 3: minds and all that, and to be part of it
- 6:00Speaker 3: and to know that they're making that music is something
- 6:04Speaker 3: very special. And that's been the tradition in America since
- 6:10Speaker 3: you know, we cut the wilderness. You know, the Irish
- 6:14Speaker 3: Scotch Irish would you know, would bring their folk music,
- 6:18Speaker 3: you know, and they would would that would collaborate with
- 6:23Speaker 3: the slave music, and it created this new thing, you know,
- 6:27Speaker 3: Appalachian music. And so this is this is the history,
- 6:32Speaker 3: right and so they they gave us the radio, and
- 6:37Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you have this box in your
- 6:40Speaker 3: house that can make more beautiful music than your family
- 6:43Speaker 3: could ever try to write. And instead of playing the music,
- 6:47Speaker 3: you all sit around and listen. So you're passive now,
- 6:51Speaker 3: and then you're put in this state of just receiving.
- 6:57Speaker 3: And it almost like what the television has become, Like
- 7:00Speaker 3: the television branched off from the radio like it started
- 7:04Speaker 3: with the radio. And so this box is in everybody's
- 7:09Speaker 3: house and it's giving everybody the same music, and it's
- 7:12Speaker 3: giving everybody the fireside chats of FDR, and you know,
- 7:17Speaker 3: like FDR is Grandpa telling us what to do and
- 7:20Speaker 3: how to think, you know. And then if you think
- 7:23Speaker 3: about that image of RCA the nipper Dog, the logo
- 7:31Speaker 3: it says his master's voice, and there's a picture of
- 7:35Speaker 3: a dog listening to a gramophone like the original Victor
- 7:40Speaker 3: talking music recording like for records, and it's listening, and
- 7:46Speaker 3: it's like wow, So that's an obedient slave listening. A
- 7:51Speaker 3: dog is you know, listens to his master. And what
- 7:54Speaker 3: is coming through the radio waves. It's instructions and a
- 7:58Speaker 3: new worldview and you know, uh, softening people up to
- 8:02Speaker 3: the socialism that is the FDR generation and the New
- 8:06Speaker 3: Deal and all of that, you know, convincing people to
- 8:10Speaker 3: accept this government as daddy. You know, So this has
- 8:18Speaker 3: the when then you look at okay, well that's that
- 8:23Speaker 3: if you look at the beginning of radio, it started
- 8:26Speaker 3: as a propaganda tool for war and in like during
- 8:33Speaker 3: the First World War. Like it says that Marconi invented
- 8:38Speaker 3: the radio. Really Tesla did, but Marconi like patented the thing.
- 8:43Speaker 3: So I don't know, there's a whole thing to look
- 8:46Speaker 3: into there. But so there was this American Marconi company
- 8:53Speaker 3: that was created to take over all of the holdings
- 8:58Speaker 3: of the So the Navy owned all the radio stations
- 9:03Speaker 3: during wartime and in this way, they like before the radio,
- 9:08Speaker 3: the only way you could propagandize the enemy is to
- 9:10Speaker 3: fly a plane over there. And drop leaflets on the
- 9:14Speaker 3: enemy territory like piece of paper, like they put pornography
- 9:17Speaker 3: or some words or something, and that is like how
- 9:22Speaker 3: they could infiltrate the enemy's space, right, And then they
- 9:25Speaker 3: got this radio thing which they can transmit from home
- 9:30Speaker 3: across the border into the enemy territory. And you know,
- 9:34Speaker 3: that was big and like you know, world War two,
- 9:37Speaker 3: they were calling him g I Joe because the Japanese
- 9:42Speaker 3: would hear the radio and the soldiery they they would
- 9:48Speaker 3: consider the soldiers all be named Joe, just like they're
- 9:51Speaker 3: all Charlie or in Vietnam. It's it's this weird thing
- 9:54Speaker 3: because the radio programmed them and they so the Japanese
- 9:59Speaker 3: heard the radio that was there. And another thing, the
- 10:05Speaker 3: soldiers they played country music during World War two over
- 10:10Speaker 3: in the Eastern Front, and I don't know about in
- 10:14Speaker 3: Europe also, but the soldiers coming home from war, all
- 10:17Speaker 3: of a sudden they like country music because it was
- 10:20Speaker 3: like fed to them on a steady basis on the
- 10:23Speaker 3: megaphones and their little base or whatever. So that's legit,
- 10:28Speaker 3: that's for real.
- 10:30Speaker 1: So that was like the soundtrack for the.
- 10:33Speaker 3: War kind of yeah. Interesting, yeah, and it had like
- 10:38Speaker 3: a binding together it's like the American music, right. So
- 10:43Speaker 3: that's and that's during the late thirties and forties, right,
- 10:46Speaker 3: So that's after they had the Electrification Act of nineteen
- 10:51Speaker 3: thirty six, and that was an FDR thing where for safety,
- 10:58Speaker 3: you know, which is always like lose freedom and it's
- 11:01Speaker 3: an attack on us, but for safety, in quotes, the
- 11:05Speaker 3: government installed electric wires to every house in every barn.
- 11:12Speaker 3: And that's like all across Appalachia, all the southern all
- 11:16Speaker 3: the poor South were given electricity, like a light in
- 11:20Speaker 3: every kitchen and a lamp in every barn. Whatever. So
- 11:23Speaker 3: because they used to use kerosene and it was a
- 11:25Speaker 3: fire hazard and whatever. So the government come to save
- 11:28Speaker 3: us again, right, So they swooped in and they electrified
- 11:33Speaker 3: the South. And then there's been this thing, this WSM
- 11:38Speaker 3: Barn Dance that was happening, and all of a sudden
- 11:43Speaker 3: they juiced it up with fifty thousand watts and it
- 11:49Speaker 3: was broadcasting to like thirty states and with these new
- 11:54Speaker 3: radios that everybody was buying, it was all static until
- 11:56Speaker 3: you hit the WSM, which is now known as the
- 12:01Speaker 3: Grand Ole Opry. Yes it is, so you're familiar with that,
- 12:06Speaker 3: I'm sure, Yes, so this was huge. This is what
- 12:10Speaker 3: unified the culture. So the grand Ole became very cult
- 12:14Speaker 3: like actually that too, Yeah, yeah, so like it. The
- 12:20Speaker 3: grand Ole opry created this, the clothing scene, they created
- 12:25Speaker 3: the terminology used, they created the stereotypes.
- 12:29Speaker 4: Of like what Hill people are like and what you know,
- 12:32Speaker 4: the fumbling, fumbling, chiotic racist this that now, I mean,
- 12:39Speaker 4: it still goes on to this day and we can
- 12:41Speaker 4: get into that later, but I do have a question
- 12:43Speaker 4: for you.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Sure it kind of goes along with this exact moment
- 12:47Speaker 1: in time. Did you ever watch the movie O Brother
- 12:51Speaker 1: where art thou?
- 12:52Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 12:53Speaker 1: Good movie, yes, And that to me is this moment
- 12:58Speaker 1: in time because they go to make the record and
- 13:02Speaker 1: the guy's blind and he's like, we're three black eyes
- 13:04Speaker 1: and the guy who had sold his soul to the
- 13:06Speaker 1: devil played the guitar for him. And he's based off
- 13:10Speaker 1: of Robert Johnson, who was the blues player who sold
- 13:14Speaker 1: his soul to the devil to play guitar. But the
- 13:19Speaker 1: soundtrack for that movie is like the soundtrack of my life,
- 13:22Speaker 1: all those old gospel hymn knowles and country music, the
- 13:25Speaker 1: very beginning of country. I grew up listening to that
- 13:29Speaker 1: and it the way that they market it to people
- 13:35Speaker 1: is almost like Christian music is close to Godliness in
- 13:41Speaker 1: some way, and it does like give me the chill
- 13:44Speaker 1: sometimes when I listen to it, Like I just, it
- 13:47Speaker 1: just takes you back to it's sentimental nostalgia, and so
- 13:53Speaker 1: when I hear it, I do feel all the feels
- 13:56Speaker 1: like when I was a kid, and oh my god,
- 13:57Speaker 1: I love this song. But that movie just made me think.
- 14:01Speaker 1: They put so many little things in there, like oh,
- 14:03Speaker 1: black guys weren't allowed to be on the radio because
- 14:07Speaker 1: they even advertised it as like four black guys on
- 14:10Speaker 1: the Run or something like that, and they'd put they
- 14:14Speaker 1: did black face at the end of the movie and
- 14:16Speaker 1: walked in there at the clan rally, And I don't know,
- 14:21Speaker 1: it's just interesting to me that moment in time where
- 14:25Speaker 1: the radio was so new and they wanted it to
- 14:27Speaker 1: be wholesome and what they considered to be like Riskue
- 14:32Speaker 1: was a black person singing country right, like I just
- 14:36Speaker 1: it was. It's a weird time in life.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, there was eugenics laws back then.
- 14:42Speaker 3: I mean they were like sterilizing the feeble minded, you know.
- 14:47Speaker 3: I mean there was a lot of evil going on
- 14:50Speaker 3: at those times.
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