Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 934: Foundations - Pre-Season Practice That Will Pay Off This Fall No Matter Your Weapon Choice
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
- 0:09Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
- 0:14Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
- 0:19Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
- 0:22Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light.
- 0:24Speaker 3: I'm your host, Tony Peterson, and this episode.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Is all about what you should do right now with
- 0:28Speaker 2: your bow or your crossbow, your gun to get ready
- 0:30Speaker 2: to be a stone cold killer this fall.
- 0:33Speaker 3: A look.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I know we all know what we should do throughout
- 0:37Speaker 2: the summer practice wise, but I also know what a
- 0:40Speaker 2: lot of us just don't do. Part of this is
- 0:43Speaker 2: a function of having really accurate weaponry these days. We
- 0:46Speaker 2: just don't need to practice as much as we used
- 0:48Speaker 2: to in order to be pretty good. But pretty good
- 0:51Speaker 2: on the range and pretty good in the woods are
- 0:52Speaker 2: different things. That's something a lot of us don't realize
- 0:55Speaker 2: until we watch a buck run out of our lives
- 0:57Speaker 2: without an arrow through his lungs, and it's something we
- 1:00Speaker 2: can work on in the next several weeks. It's also
- 1:02Speaker 2: what I'm going to talk about right now. One of
- 1:10Speaker 2: our editors and writers here at Meat Eater is a
- 1:12Speaker 2: fellow named Adam Moore. He lives and hunts down south
- 1:15Speaker 2: in the part of the country Mark and I rarely
- 1:17Speaker 2: talk about for deer hunting because it's a world we
- 1:19Speaker 2: don't play in very much. Now, Adam recently called me
- 1:22Speaker 2: up for some quotes for an article he was working
- 1:24Speaker 2: on about the things that the hunting industry won't tell you,
- 1:28Speaker 2: things that will help you be successful but aren't necessarily
- 1:31Speaker 2: going to sell a bunch of deer calls or sense
- 1:33Speaker 2: or whatever you get to drift. Now, while I talked
- 1:36Speaker 2: about woodsmanship and figuring out natural movement and a couple
- 1:39Speaker 2: things I really believe help all deer hunters level up,
- 1:42Speaker 2: I didn't mention practice or preseason practice specifically. I know
- 1:47Speaker 2: this is a boring topic, but it's important and it
- 1:50Speaker 2: is one of the things that we can control in
- 1:52Speaker 2: a very real way, which are not always that easy
- 1:55Speaker 2: to find in the deer woods. So to frame this up,
- 1:58Speaker 2: let me give you a little recap my last season
- 2:00Speaker 2: in the shots that I took. The first was in
- 2:03Speaker 2: Minnesota on a mature dough that walked into a pond
- 2:06Speaker 2: I was sitting over in September. Everything looked like it
- 2:10Speaker 2: was lining up really nicely, until she just turned and
- 2:13Speaker 2: walked straight at me, then went under my stand and
- 2:16Speaker 2: walked straight away before stopping. I started to draw on
- 2:19Speaker 2: her twice while anticipating her next move, and I got
- 2:22Speaker 2: it wrong both times. But she finally did turn hard
- 2:25Speaker 2: enough to give me a quartering shot at maybe ten yards,
- 2:28Speaker 2: and when I took it, she did not go very far.
- 2:31Speaker 2: It was a good start to the season. Then I
- 2:33Speaker 2: went to North Dakota and snort weezed in a really
- 2:36Speaker 2: big buck and I didn't range him. I thought he
- 2:38Speaker 2: was walking in at thirty five yards, and just for
- 2:41Speaker 2: a few seconds, I checked my sight. I checked to
- 2:44Speaker 2: see if my cameraman was on him. Then I went
- 2:46Speaker 2: to shoot him. I didn't realize he had walked into
- 2:48Speaker 2: twenty six and other than a few hairs, I shot
- 2:52Speaker 2: off his back as a consolation prize. I watched that
- 2:54Speaker 2: deer run out of my life, and I was very sad.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Later on in that trip, I shot a dough on
- 2:59Speaker 2: a water hole at thirty yards while sitting on my
- 3:01Speaker 2: butt on a rocky hillside that was angled in such
- 3:04Speaker 2: a way that not only was it uncomfortable as hell,
- 3:08Speaker 2: but it was also just a very unnatural way to shoot.
- 3:12Speaker 2: I killed her, it wasn't my best shot. After that,
- 3:15Speaker 2: headed down to Iowa and I decoyed in a buck
- 3:19Speaker 2: that did everything you want a buck to do, and
- 3:22Speaker 2: I still managed to put my decoy off just a
- 3:25Speaker 2: few yards from my small shooting lane, and that caused
- 3:28Speaker 2: me to lean out a little farther than I thought
- 3:30Speaker 2: I was going to have to, and I just clipped
- 3:32Speaker 2: a willow stem with my broad head on the shot.
- 3:35Speaker 2: I got him again, but it was not my finest shot.
- 3:39Speaker 2: So after that stretch of disasters on film, I went
- 3:41Speaker 2: back to Minnesota to try to redeem myself, and I
- 3:44Speaker 2: finally had a decent eight pointer flirting with death for
- 3:46Speaker 2: like fifteen minutes. Drew on him at least twice that
- 3:50Speaker 2: I can remember, before he kind of worked his way
- 3:52Speaker 2: around and posed up at maybe twenty yards and I
- 3:55Speaker 2: shot him right through the heart watched him tip over.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Some years, I shoot like I was born with a
- 4:00Speaker 2: bow in my hand. Some years, I shoot like I
- 4:03Speaker 2: was born with a handful of delicious lead paint chips
- 4:06Speaker 2: in my hand. I used to only shoot like I
- 4:09Speaker 2: had tried to lobotomize myself with a screwdriver for fun,
- 4:13Speaker 2: but after a lot of painful seasons, I got that
- 4:15Speaker 2: kind of taken care of. Filming is a different story
- 4:19Speaker 2: for me. If there is a moment when I'll go
- 4:21Speaker 2: back to my old ways, it's when there's a camera
- 4:22Speaker 2: over my shoulder and the reality that a whole hell
- 4:25Speaker 2: of a lot of people are about to watch me
- 4:27Speaker 2: shit my camel undies metaphorically, speaking of course, now my
- 4:31Speaker 2: flaws aside. You know what all of those real world
- 4:35Speaker 2: shots at white Tails I took last year have in common.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Not a single one involved me standing flat footed in
- 4:40Speaker 2: a mode yard while having all the time in the
- 4:43Speaker 2: world to make a perfectly known, distant shot. So let's
- 4:46Speaker 2: break that down for a second. When we shoot in
- 4:48Speaker 2: our yards, is there any pressure to make a great shot?
- 4:51Speaker 3: Not?
- 4:52Speaker 2: Usually not really. If we shank one, we just shoot
- 4:56Speaker 2: another one. You can add some pressure to your sessions,
- 5:00Speaker 2: have you know, maybe the chance to go to a
- 5:02Speaker 2: three D shoot, or you invite a couple of buddies
- 5:04Speaker 2: over for a session that doesn't hurt And I think
- 5:07Speaker 2: any way that you can vary up your preseason practice
- 5:10Speaker 2: to challenge. What you have going on between the ears
- 5:12Speaker 2: is a good thing. I guess I'll put a finer
- 5:14Speaker 2: point on this by saying that I've shot at a
- 5:16Speaker 2: lot of whitetails in my life, like a lot, and
- 5:19Speaker 2: I don't recall too many where I was relaxed and
- 5:22Speaker 2: feeling no pressure.
- 5:23Speaker 3: It doesn't really work that way.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Now, look at the mechanical side of the The reason
- 5:28Speaker 2: that we shoot the way we do in ninety nine
- 5:30Speaker 2: percent of our practice sessions is because it's the easiest
- 5:33Speaker 2: way to send some arrows downrange while being as accurate
- 5:35Speaker 2: as we can. This type of practice has its place,
- 5:38Speaker 2: but it would kind of be like doing a bunch
- 5:40Speaker 2: of cardio before your big MMA debut and the octagon,
- 5:43Speaker 2: but never sparring or grappling. When I think about the
- 5:46Speaker 2: shots I took last season, they all had some type
- 5:49Speaker 2: of mechanical or maybe technical type of variable that made
- 5:53Speaker 2: them more challenging than any shot taking while standing flat
- 5:56Speaker 2: footed on the same level as my target. A ten
- 5:59Speaker 2: yard shot on a d j oh that's eighteen feet
- 6:01Speaker 2: below you and quartered away and in about three steps
- 6:04Speaker 2: from being totally safe. It's just not something we usually
- 6:07Speaker 2: practice for that kind of situation might put your ideal
- 6:11Speaker 2: point of impact five inches higher than you'd aim at
- 6:13Speaker 2: a foam target and back maybe another four or five inches.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Do you ever set a stand to practice from or
- 6:20Speaker 2: shoot from your deck to condition yourself for a shot
- 6:23Speaker 2: like that, because at some point a wild live year
- 6:26Speaker 2: is going to offer himself up that way, and then
- 6:28Speaker 2: it's on you to envision that wound channel and where
- 6:31Speaker 2: you have to put the right pin.
- 6:33Speaker 3: If you have.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Gallons of adrenaline flooding your veins in that moment, the
- 6:36Speaker 2: odds of getting it right drop like a rock. Do
- 6:39Speaker 2: we need to practice for every scenario out there? Well, no,
- 6:43Speaker 2: we couldn't even if we wanted to. But it's usually
- 6:46Speaker 2: a pretty good idea to practice more than we think
- 6:48Speaker 2: we need to, and to try to shake up our
- 6:50Speaker 2: practice sessions with new wrinkles whenever we can.
- 6:53Speaker 3: It's also a good.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Idea to remember that your ability to shoot well on
- 6:56Speaker 2: the range and out there in the forest is a
- 6:58Speaker 2: personal journey. There are a lot of folks out there
- 7:01Speaker 2: who talk a big game about how they personally shoot
- 7:05Speaker 2: or how other people shoot. That sucks, But those people
- 7:09Speaker 2: are usually one of two things so new that they
- 7:13Speaker 2: don't have the experience, you know, to understand what mistakes
- 7:18Speaker 2: everyone inevitably will make, or the other thing, which is
- 7:22Speaker 2: they are likely just totally full of shit. Hunting deer
- 7:26Speaker 2: and shooting at them is a game of infinite variables,
- 7:29Speaker 2: and getting it right once can be easy. How about
- 7:32Speaker 2: getting it right five shots in a row, though, that's
- 7:35Speaker 2: a different story, or ten shots in a row. Send
- 7:39Speaker 2: enough arrows or bullets at animals and you're going to
- 7:42Speaker 2: screw up, and when you do, it might be a
- 7:44Speaker 2: little more likely that you'll screw up again. Because bow
- 7:48Speaker 2: hunting is a sport that produces good and bad streaks.
- 7:53Speaker 3: I don't know why.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I just know that it does, and I know the
- 7:56Speaker 2: best way to smooth out the ebbs and flows of
- 7:58Speaker 2: the whole thing is to practice more in as many
- 8:00Speaker 2: ways as you can. And I also know that those
- 8:02Speaker 2: gun hunters out there aren't immune to this issue either.
- 8:05Speaker 2: One of the problems with most modern firearms, and honestly,
- 8:08Speaker 2: I'll throw crossbows in here as well, is that they
- 8:11Speaker 2: are stupid accurate. If you site in either with a
- 8:16Speaker 2: good bench or a good rest, and you take your
- 8:18Speaker 2: time to really dial them in, well, then you're really
- 8:21Speaker 2: dialed in. But are you well your gun is or
- 8:25Speaker 2: your crossbow is, but are you dialed in as the shooter?
- 8:29Speaker 2: Probably not. This is a concept that's easy to understand
- 8:33Speaker 2: with vertical bows because we, as the shooters, have a
- 8:37Speaker 2: lot of influence on how the shot goes. If we
- 8:40Speaker 2: do everything right, the arrow will go exactly where we
- 8:42Speaker 2: point it. If we don't, it won't. And that's about it.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Since we all inherently know that, we also understand why
- 8:50Speaker 2: that type of weapon requires a healthy amount of practice.
- 8:53Speaker 2: You have to get good with shot execution, and that
- 8:56Speaker 2: comes from reps with a rifle or a crossbow or
- 9:09Speaker 2: a hell a muzzloader. We can sit at the range
- 9:11Speaker 2: and shoot tight groups and call it good enough. I mean,
- 9:15Speaker 2: my daughters can shoot their crossbows in such a way
- 9:17Speaker 2: that they'll ruin bolts if they don't intentionally try to
- 9:20Speaker 2: shoot around the ones that are already in the target.
- 9:23Speaker 2: But that doesn't make them super good shots in the field.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Just because your rifle can put five rounds in the
- 9:30Speaker 2: same hole at three hundred yards off the bench on
- 9:32Speaker 2: a column day doesn't mean you can put one round
- 9:35Speaker 2: right where it needs to be at two hundred and
- 9:36Speaker 2: fifty seven yards during a blizzard at the end of
- 9:39Speaker 2: a four hour sit where the wind is just hucking
- 9:42Speaker 2: out of the north at twenty miles per hour. Sure
- 9:46Speaker 2: your rifle can make that shot, but can you. We
- 9:50Speaker 2: tend to think of target practice as a means for
- 9:52Speaker 2: us to become more accurate, which is a component. For sure,
- 9:57Speaker 2: you wouldn't punch paper or foam if it asn't a
- 10:00Speaker 2: direct route to being a better shot, because that would
- 10:02Speaker 2: be bonkers. But it's more than that. It's also about
- 10:05Speaker 2: becoming extremely comfortable with your weapon. I've talked about this
- 10:09Speaker 2: a lot, but if you put a rifle or a
- 10:10Speaker 2: crossbow in my hands, it's just awkward to me.
- 10:14Speaker 3: I don't have the.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Reps necessary with either to pick one up and just
- 10:17Speaker 2: be super comfortable with it. A vertical bowl or a
- 10:20Speaker 2: shotgun is a different story, because those are weapons I've
- 10:23Speaker 2: handled my entire life, very natural to me, and the
- 10:26Speaker 2: muscle memory is real, the comfort level is very real.
- 10:30Speaker 2: But not so with a rifle or a crossbow. And
- 10:33Speaker 2: here's the thing about that stuff. Let's say you are
- 10:36Speaker 2: new to crossbow hunting, or this is your first year
- 10:39Speaker 2: rifle hunting, since your brand new in laws invited you
- 10:42Speaker 2: up to deer camp. You have a weapon that is
- 10:45Speaker 2: accurate as hell, which you've proven at the range, But
- 10:48Speaker 2: then you get into a double ladder stand and watch
- 10:50Speaker 2: the sunrise. Your setup is designed around an old logging
- 10:54Speaker 2: road that passes by at forty yards a chip shot
- 10:57Speaker 2: with a rifle and what should be a chip shot
- 10:59Speaker 2: with a cross hospo. But then a good buck bigger
- 11:02Speaker 2: than you expected to see, snaps a stick behind your tree.
- 11:06Speaker 3: You turn around.
- 11:07Speaker 2: There he is at forty six yards, and he's pointed
- 11:10Speaker 2: in a direction that means you have to spin the
- 11:12Speaker 2: opposite way and get ready to shoot before he takes
- 11:15Speaker 2: more than about ten or twelve steps. You get turned
- 11:18Speaker 2: around and pick him up as he clears your tree,
- 11:21Speaker 2: but he's taken a few steps farther away and turned
- 11:24Speaker 2: harder than you expected. You have to factor all of
- 11:26Speaker 2: that in, and while the range might not matter with
- 11:30Speaker 2: either weapon, the shot angle does. Then you go to
- 11:33Speaker 2: take the safety off, and you can't quite remember where
- 11:36Speaker 2: it is because your brain is slowly melting like a
- 11:38Speaker 2: grape slushie in the sun. Now you've taken your mind
- 11:41Speaker 2: off of the task to do something for a split
- 11:43Speaker 2: second that would be totally natural to someone who has
- 11:46Speaker 2: practiced more, and now you get that safety off, and
- 11:49Speaker 2: you have to reel your mind back into the moment
- 11:52Speaker 2: and stop him and execute the shot while a shot
- 11:56Speaker 2: clock goes off in your head. It should be easy
- 11:58Speaker 2: because with a target at that you'd make a good
- 12:01Speaker 2: enough shot with either weapon ten out of ten times.
- 12:04Speaker 2: But we all know that your odds, Sorry, it should torry.
- 12:09Speaker 2: It should be easy because with a target like that
- 12:13Speaker 2: at the range the shooting range I mean, by the way,
- 12:17Speaker 2: you'd make a good enough shot with either weapon ten
- 12:19Speaker 2: out of ten times. But we also know that your
- 12:22Speaker 2: odds of killing that book cleanly are not one hundred percent,
- 12:24Speaker 2: and they never will be. But they can be better
- 12:27Speaker 2: this year than last, and they can be better in
- 12:30Speaker 2: six weeks than they would be if you didn't practice
- 12:32Speaker 2: a whole lot. I also have come to believe something
- 12:35Speaker 2: else about preseason practice that sort of flies in the
- 12:38Speaker 2: face of a lot of modern advice. There is a
- 12:41Speaker 2: lot of emphasis on long range shooting these days. It's
- 12:45Speaker 2: not all that uncommon to see a video of some
- 12:47Speaker 2: dude shooting an arrow at a mule deer a football
- 12:49Speaker 2: field away, or some other dude shooting an elk in
- 12:52Speaker 2: the mountains that's half a mile away. I'll leave the
- 12:55Speaker 2: ethics of that up to the individual, but will say
- 12:57Speaker 2: that I do love long distance practice. It feels really
- 13:01Speaker 2: good to be able to string together a group of
- 13:03Speaker 2: arrows at eighty yards. That wouldn't be too shabby at thirty.
- 13:06Speaker 2: You know, to dial in your form and your execution.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Long range practice is a great strategy. But I've found
- 13:13Speaker 2: in the last several years that I really want to
- 13:14Speaker 2: kill deer at about twenty yards. And while I do
- 13:17Speaker 2: still shoot some longer stuff, I'm more interested in trying
- 13:20Speaker 2: to be the best I can be at sub forty
- 13:21Speaker 2: yard shots. I just want to know that, no matter what,
- 13:25Speaker 2: if a deer poses up at thirty like they often do,
- 13:28Speaker 2: that I couldn't be more confident at that range if
- 13:31Speaker 2: I tried. The same goes for my rifle hunts, and
- 13:34Speaker 2: the rifle hunting i'm preparing my daughters for. I want
- 13:37Speaker 2: them to shoot at two hundred just to see what
- 13:39Speaker 2: they can do about it. But I want them really
- 13:41Speaker 2: comfortable at like fifty to one hundred yards, because that's
- 13:44Speaker 2: the distance range they'll actually shoot when we're in the woods.
- 13:47Speaker 2: I know that seems pretty simple because it is, but
- 13:50Speaker 2: we get caught up, you know, in trends and a
- 13:53Speaker 2: lot of other stuff. There's something to be said about
- 13:55Speaker 2: trying to get really good with your weapon at the
- 13:58Speaker 2: distances you're most likely to actually shoot at. This is
- 14:01Speaker 2: also a great way to enforce a little more patience
- 14:03Speaker 2: on ourselves. Effective range, whatever that is for you can
- 14:08Speaker 2: be variable depending on situations. But we can also talk
- 14:12Speaker 2: ourselves into shooting at a deer because we know our
- 14:14Speaker 2: weapon can do it, but can we That's the rub,
- 14:18Speaker 2: and I know that personally. I've really started to try
- 14:21Speaker 2: to set up for easy close shots because of it.
- 14:25Speaker 2: I know what can go wrong, and I know what
- 14:27Speaker 2: can happen between my ears. So I want a twenty
- 14:30Speaker 2: yard shot way more than I want a forty yard shot,
- 14:33Speaker 2: even though when I'm on a range, forty isn't all
- 14:36Speaker 2: that much different from twenty. By the time the season
- 14:38Speaker 2: is about to open up in the woods, it is, though,
- 14:41Speaker 2: and that's something we all learn the heart way over time.
- 14:45Speaker 2: So ask yourself what your plan is for the next
- 14:47Speaker 2: few weeks. If you haven't started shooting your bow, you
- 14:50Speaker 2: better get out there. If you're a crossbow hunter and
- 14:52Speaker 2: think you don't really need to practice, I'd say you
- 14:54Speaker 2: probably should, even if that is just to work on
- 14:57Speaker 2: some elevated practice off the deck or maybe some low
- 15:01Speaker 2: light stuff when the sun starts to dip below the trees.
- 15:04Speaker 2: And the same goes for rifle hunters. Although most folks
- 15:06Speaker 2: aren't going to spend too much time prepping for the
- 15:08Speaker 2: rifle season now, we are though in my family because
- 15:12Speaker 2: I want my daughters to have really good first hunts,
- 15:15Speaker 2: and one of the variables I can control to some
- 15:17Speaker 2: extent here is how comfortable they are with their weapon.
- 15:21Speaker 2: It's also a great excuse for me to facilitate more
- 15:24Speaker 2: practice shooting, too, because the Peterson girls aren't the only
- 15:26Speaker 2: ones who need to get more comfortable with the rifles.
- 15:29Speaker 2: I guess all that is to say that it is
- 15:31Speaker 2: time to shoot for all of us, trad bow hunters,
- 15:34Speaker 2: compound hunters, crossbow hunters, gun hunters, whatever you hunt with.
- 15:39Speaker 2: There really isn't a downside to this aspect of the preseason,
- 15:42Speaker 2: and while it might not make you go ten out
- 15:44Speaker 2: of ten in the next three seasons, it's going to
- 15:47Speaker 2: help you shoot better than you would if you didn't practice,
- 15:49Speaker 2: which is where I'll leave this one for now. So
- 15:52Speaker 2: hit the range, shake up your sessions, get comfortable with
- 15:55Speaker 2: your weaponry, and come back next week because I'm going
- 15:58Speaker 2: to talk about how the social aspect of deer hunting
- 16:01Speaker 2: affects all of us and how some of us would
- 16:04Speaker 2: be better off planning a little more solo time in
- 16:06Speaker 2: the woods. This ball, that's it. I'm Tony Peterson. This
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