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Episode 29 Season 2 NFL Week 5 · ZBD Sports Podcast

0:46
SPEAKER_02: That was garbage time, bro.
0:48
SPEAKER_02: Don't sit, bro.
0:48
SPEAKER_02: Y'all was never at any point did anybody think that Detroit was gonna win that game against fucking Buffalo, bro.
0:55
SPEAKER_02: You know that.
0:56
SPEAKER_02: Josh Allen was just fucking cut destroying y'all.
1:00
SPEAKER_02: Like.
1:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:02
SPEAKER_02: Z Welcome, ZBD.
1:05
SPEAKER_02: And here just doing a little lion trash talk.
1:08
SPEAKER_02: You know.
1:09
SPEAKER_02: Welcome for the uh fifth.
1:13
SPEAKER_02: What episode is this of the season?
1:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think six.
1:16
SPEAKER_01: Six.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: But I I feel like we did one or one or two episodes or one or two episodes before the season started.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
1:26
SPEAKER_01: But okay.
1:28
SPEAKER_01: Six, seven.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: But uh, yeah, no, covering week five this week.
1:35
SPEAKER_01: Um some pretty solid games.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: Um just gonna just gonna cover the main ones and then um yeah, go into a little bit of next week and try and try and cover a little bit of both of the best games going on.
1:49
SPEAKER_01: But um feeling over here.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I mean pretty it's pretty pretty decent games all around this week for sure.
2:04
SPEAKER_01: Um even had a tie in there as well.
2:06
SPEAKER_01: We'll talk about that a little bit, but yeah, that was that might have been one of the craziest games.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, yeah, just the Giants being down as much as they were with like seven minutes left in the fourth or something.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: I think it was like uh twenty-four.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: I think it was twenty-seven-fourteen or something.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: I think they were down by like James.
2:58
SPEAKER_01: Um hoping that can carry over into next week as well.
3:02
SPEAKER_01: Um tough having Jameer not playing this week.
3:06
SPEAKER_01: Lions got the buy, so um actually get to sit back and watch a little bit of everybody else, um, which I'm not mad about.
3:14
SPEAKER_01: Prioritize soccer a little bit this week.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: Um but we'll start off uh with the Thursday night with the Thursday night game.
3:23
SPEAKER_01: Um pretty surprising.
3:25
SPEAKER_01: Cowboys fall to two and three um as the Bucks get their first win of the season, um one and four.
3:34
SPEAKER_01: Um Bucky Irving uh had a big game.
3:39
SPEAKER_01: First big game he's really had this season for the most part.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: Um in in Dallas as well.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean it was it was uh I mean I mean the the Bucks needed it.
3:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh Bucks defense hasn't really necessarily looked bad at all these first few games.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: The offense has kind of been iffy.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: Baker went out two games ago, but um yeah, the rookie was able to come in and get it done against Dallas this week, so um good for them that they get that dub.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: Um a little bit of a concern maybe for Cowboys offense.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: Um last week, you know, it was C D got like 13, 14 targets or something.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: He was the main one getting the ball and Pickens didn't and Pickens didn't get any of the balls.
4:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, did he?
4:29
SPEAKER_02: I thought he played he played most of it though, didn't he?
4:41
SPEAKER_01: Because I thought that was the reason that um they were kind of going to pickings more in this Tampa Bay game because they were just they saw what C D did to whoever it was last week.
4:55
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember who they played, but yeah, I mean he only had he had they didn't they didn't want C D get hurt two catches for nine yards, yeah.
5:02
SPEAKER_02: He got hurt.
5:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
5:04
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't remember what quarter it was, but I was wondering because you know, Adam asked and his bets, he's like, you know, I need C D to get and uh look on my things how many caps some shit like that does he have?
5:19
SPEAKER_02: And then he went out.
5:21
SPEAKER_02: He may uh maybe I don't know, he may yeah it might I don't know if it'll say on fantasy like what quarter he went out.
5:26
SPEAKER_02: It probably it I think it probably will.
5:28
SPEAKER_01: The quarter?
5:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
5:34
SPEAKER_01: So Chris is too healthy.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean yeah, he went out.
5:41
SPEAKER_01: He definitely didn't play the whole game.
5:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, quad considered When is Lamb ever I mean, even in games where you know George Pickens is having a crazy game, Lamb still have like five for 70 or 8 for 70.
6:00
SPEAKER_02: You mean something like that, you know what I'm saying?
6:01
SPEAKER_01: Like it's not and he's always a red zone target.
6:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I mean?
6:04
SPEAKER_02: Like when I start seeing them like two two catches for nine yards, I'm like, yeah, he something had to have happened.
6:11
SPEAKER_02: And they were throwing the ball a lot that game.
6:13
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
6:14
SPEAKER_02: They were down, you know what I mean?
6:15
SPEAKER_02: So like they and fucking Tampa Bay was controlling the clock because they were able to run with Bucky and with pretty much anybody who came in the game.
6:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh Tampa Bay was just able to run the ball on him, so um, they kind of forced Dallas to be more aggressive passing.
6:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know how many completions or how many times.
6:36
SPEAKER_02: Let's see how many times did Dak throw the ball.
6:39
SPEAKER_02: Threw the ball 42 times.
6:40
SPEAKER_02: Right, so we had I just I don't know, I can't remember.
6:44
SPEAKER_02: I was just talking to you about like we just talked about the other day, the usually the quarterback with the most passing attempts or whatever most yards for that game typically loses.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: And he had 316 yards, threw it 24 for 42, and they lost.
7:01
SPEAKER_02: Jalen Davis, on the other hand, went 19 for 25 for 189.
7:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
7:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's the yeah, it's there, you get glorified for it because, and they even maybe reminded me of the Burrow season, you know, when he was throwing the ball.
7:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, a lot of times he had to throw the ball like that because we throw it for three, three fifty every game.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
7:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you had 10 straight games of 250 plus and at least two touchdowns and no interceptions.
7:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, broke a couple records, you know what I'm saying?
7:29
SPEAKER_02: But because of this, because we were down a lot of those games, or because our defense were was that bad that we had to throw the fucking ball 30, 40 times to have 300 most of those games we lost.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: We went eight and nine.
7:41
SPEAKER_02: So that's what I'm saying.
7:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, it looks pretty on a stat sheet, and fantasy-wise, like it looks good, there's great fantasy and shit like that.
7:48
SPEAKER_02: But typically the quarterback, unless it's just a straight duel, but if it's a low-scoring game or mid-tier, you know, you see somebody like, you know, even CJ Stroud.
7:58
SPEAKER_02: We see we looked at against Cincinnati, yeah, 370 yards where he threw the ball 55 times.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm saying when they played against Cincinnati.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Burrow only had like 208 yards, only didn't throw the ball that much, but CJ Stroud threw the ball, it was 35 and 55.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's been I feel like it's been for the Texans.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean he's like it's been for like that most games.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: I feel like he's been airing up.
8:25
SPEAKER_01: He's going for like 250.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, minus that Buffalo game, he has not been a problem for Houston.
8:31
SPEAKER_02: I actually wanted to get into that as well.
8:34
SPEAKER_02: Not necessarily that game yet.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh or not necessarily even that game because you know they destroyed Tennessee like I expected.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: But um he has not been the issue this year, minus that Buffalo game with those two fumbles that he had.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: But even the Cincinnati game, um our defense is smothering, they couldn't run the ball, but he played, he threw the ball, you know, relatively well.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: He's stolen the ball against Buffalo.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: And never and that was without Nico Collins back either.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: He got Nico back two weeks ago.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so in both games he's and raising and he went off the like he went for like 150 and two touchdowns, and that was the game they lost, right?
9:13
SPEAKER_01: Who did they or I can't remember who did they play last week?
9:15
SPEAKER_01: You remember?
9:16
SPEAKER_02: Tennessee.
9:17
SPEAKER_01: No, or the week before Tennessee.
9:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, they lost to fucking Dallas.
9:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
9:22
SPEAKER_01: And he went off.
9:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he played good in that game, too.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but yeah, oh yeah, because Dallas can't yeah, I yeah.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like 300 or something yards.
9:29
SPEAKER_02: They both, him and Dak was getting off.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: It was a shootout.
9:31
SPEAKER_02: It was gonna be 31 of 30 or some shit like that.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, because I think I remember Dallas coming back at the end now.
9:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:38
SPEAKER_02: But they couldn't run the ball.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: That's and that's been the story for Houston that's not being able to run the ball um at all.
9:45
SPEAKER_02: And they couldn't even run the ball against a Dallas team that we just seen give up at least 220, 230 on the ground between Bucky Irving and the rest of the fucking running backs.
9:56
SPEAKER_02: He had like 160 or some shit like that.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, that Dallas just ain't been able to stop the running.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: Houston couldn't, you know, do that.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: But um it's kind of just a disappointing week, you know, for Dallas.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Because I even I remember, man, because I was watching the fucking first take.
10:14
SPEAKER_02: They have Michael Irvin on there, who I love.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: That nigga is fucking hilarious.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you ever catch any first take episodes of Michael Irvin.
10:21
SPEAKER_02: He's a fucking character.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: Like, does his anticipation, no, no, no, like does he, you know what I'm saying?
10:28
SPEAKER_02: How he is?
10:29
SPEAKER_02: Is it he's bro, every time he's on, and I typically don't really watch first take like that.
10:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, I watched uh get up before first take.
10:37
SPEAKER_02: Like I fuck with get up, like I fuck with Mike Greenberg and them, or uh uh not Greenberg, but Mike Greenie.
10:42
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know what I'm saying?
10:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't really fuck with first take and I fuck with NFL Live.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah um but anytime it's fucking you know Michael Irvin on first take, I'm I tune in because he's just fucking hilarious.
10:58
SPEAKER_02: Like I'd be, I don't know if you ever like catch just a first take that just did his antics, bro, how he's just like, dude, he's fucking like when he gets, especially when it's about the cowboys, oh my god.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: It is fucking must-watch TV, bro.
11:13
SPEAKER_02: He is right, you know this ain't for show.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: This ain't for the cameras.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: He legitimately is just like this in real life.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
11:21
SPEAKER_02: Like he, I'm like, I would love to fucking just have a conversation like that, dude.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: He would just have me rolling.
11:26
SPEAKER_02: But um, anyways, uh he was you know so high on Dallas after that Houston win and how Dak played, and deservedly so, because Dak before that was, you know, the minus you take the record away.
11:38
SPEAKER_02: He was uh, you know, playing like a top three, top two quarterback in the league.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, he was doing all this, you know, Stephen A fucking hates goddamn Dallas.
11:48
SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, he's like, just wait, you know, just wait, just talk to me a couple weeks, just wait, blah, blah, blah, blah.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm just thinking, though, I'm picturing his face the whole goddamn time in that game when Tampa Bay with a backup quarterback in Dallas is just fucking taking control of this goddamn game.
12:06
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
12:07
SPEAKER_02: Like just running it straight down their throat, and I can just picture Steven A with a fucking cowboy hat.
12:13
SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah, this cowboy hat cigar.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: You know, you know.
12:18
SPEAKER_02: I told you last week.
12:20
SPEAKER_03: I ain't gonna do that.
12:22
SPEAKER_03: I ain't gonna do what I think.
12:23
SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm just gonna do them cowboys.
12:25
SPEAKER_03: Them cowboys.
12:27
SPEAKER_03: Michael, them cowboys.
12:32
SPEAKER_03: I can't, I gotta tune.
12:33
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I gotta tune into that Monday episode.
12:36
SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't I know for a fact that got brought up.
12:39
SPEAKER_02: They already got yeah, yeah.
12:41
SPEAKER_02: I know it got brought up, so but not yet.
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Um Dallas, you know, typical Dallas, what they've been doing.
12:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:47
SPEAKER_02: Um that division is really up for grabs.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it really says anything much about Tampa Bay.
12:53
SPEAKER_02: I still think they're an old team and and not really that good of a team.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: Um Baker, maybe they haven't they had that game against Dallas, but they still aren't a team I'm worried about as far as running the ball.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh, they don't have any other threats as far as Ibuka.
13:11
SPEAKER_02: So they're putting a safety over the top almost every play with him.
13:15
SPEAKER_02: They're not worried about Chris Godwin.
13:17
SPEAKER_02: You know, they don't have the threats that they have.
13:20
SPEAKER_02: There's no Mike Evans, no more.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: Kite K Dottin isn't, you know, he's Chris Godwin's not.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: He's another year older, you know, and there's no telling if he gets injured again.
13:31
SPEAKER_02: So, um, and their line is I mean, if they can make it.
13:34
SPEAKER_01: Their line can't hold up.
13:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if they can if they can try and get something with this rookie I don't even know how the fuck they won that game, other than but I mean I watch I see a good portion of that because it's you know Bucky Irving is on my fantasy team.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: So I'm just like fucking watching a good portion of that game because Adam had it on the back and then I had it on on the TV out front.
13:56
SPEAKER_02: When he picks exact, bro.
13:58
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm just like every like this dude Jalen Daniels is like it's it's garbage.
14:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, bro, what the fuck?
14:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm like every time I'm watching, I'm like nothing as positive as happened when this nigga dropped back to throw the ball.
14:13
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
14:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't even remember this nigga having 19 of 25, 189.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
14:18
SPEAKER_01: Like, it shit is crazy, bro.
14:20
SPEAKER_01: He threw one deep Johnson for six.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, so and now everything else is six, seven yards.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: So I just like, I mean, obviously, and I was working too, so you know, bro.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: Dak threw uh two picks and then Turpin lost a fumble.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that I mean that turnovers cost the game.
14:40
SPEAKER_01: They had three turnovers and the Bucks didn't have enough either butter.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: The Bucs didn't have any turnovers.
14:45
SPEAKER_01: The thing is, is they only ran it 12 times.
14:48
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: And the game was within Dallas had to lead.
14:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, no, they led the whole half pretty much.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, not not pretty much, but they led they were kind of in control of the game a little bit in the first half, and then they got a field goal.
15:03
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they they got the field goal midway through the second quarter, and they were leading up until halftime.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: So Dallas, you know, even coming out, you know, they throw that interception, whatever.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: Even down 21-10, that fumble kills him.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: That's that was off a punt return.
15:18
SPEAKER_02: I remember a kick return or some shit like that.
15:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure that fumble from Turpin.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: I think that was a kick return or a punt return.
15:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then, you know, even if it's you're down 24 to 10, but it's still five minutes to go in the third quarter.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: I still don't think it requires you to drop back and throw the ball every single time.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: You look at, I mean, he's averaging almost 3.8, 3.9 yards of carry.
15:46
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, that's almost four yards of carry, bro.
15:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, it'd be different if you have been trying to run the ball all game and they've been stuffing you, but you've had relatively good success.
15:58
SPEAKER_02: The fact that the Bucks ran 39 times.
16:01
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: And then that's what you're running in your 12 points.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: You like and you're throwing the ball 42 times, like you're down by 30 points.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
16:10
SPEAKER_02: But you're only down by 4, 11, and then 14.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: Like, never none at none at no point in this game was the lead insurmountable where you couldn't come back.
16:20
SPEAKER_02: Right?
16:20
SPEAKER_02: And even when you're down 24 to 10 to start the fourth quarter, the game is still not oh, it's far from over at that point.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: It is far from over.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: One touchdown, yeah.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, one touchdown either way changed the games, damn it.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, any touchdown either way.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: All of these fucking like what, like three out of the five games the Rams have played in, it's came down to the fourth quarter, and it's been a two-score game going in like with the Eagles, with the Broncos, with the Eagles, and this last one with the Bills.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:55
SPEAKER_02: The only one that wasn't was the fucking Fans Frank.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then what or they played well.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: And the Giants.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, yeah.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: And that's well, we we know never we wouldn't, we won't, we'll never know because Dart got hurt.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: But I'll tell you this, if you know, Dart had got hurt the previous week before that.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh let me get one of those.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: If he got hurt, if he gets hurt the week before that, and Jameis Winston steps in, you know, where he's coming in as a first-team practicing first team practice reps all week, that game may be a different outcome.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: That's the game we're talking we're gonna talk about next.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: We can slip into this one.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
17:35
SPEAKER_01: Bucks Bucks Cowboys was a good one.
17:38
SPEAKER_01: Um see what they can get, see what they can do next week.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm not sure who both of them have real quick, actually, before we go off.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: Bucks have fucking uh Pittsburgh.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: Pittsburgh, okay.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: So I mean that'll be a good one.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: That's in Tampa Bay.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure James James is playing again.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: It could be a good one.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm rooting for Tampa Bay.
17:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm hoping Bucky, I mean, like, you know, that's in you know, uh fucking Cincinnati's division.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: And then I have Bucky Irvin playing, so I'm definitely you know, probably the game I'll be watching most of, I guess, because all the games are fucking garbage.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: Um and the Bengals don't play this week.
18:14
SPEAKER_02: We have a bye week, so yeah.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: There are a few teams that have buys because I think Minnesota, you guys and us.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so but um, and then Cowboys and Packers.
18:25
SPEAKER_02: They're Sunday night, so I mean that could be that could be a decent game.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh both teams still need that.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: Packers, three and three.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: Packers coming off a big one.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: Two and three.
18:39
SPEAKER_01: And and in Green Bay.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: I think so.
18:43
SPEAKER_01: I think that's in Green Break, because I think the second one.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can say to the right.
18:47
SPEAKER_01: Any team to the right.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: That's in Green Bay.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, Dallas, we'll see.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean it'll kind of determine Dallas' season as early as is.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: You mean resilience and being getting bounced.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, how much are they gonna bounce back?
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah, going two and four.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: That's different.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: They're already putting themselves in a hole.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: It's just like it's just but even going two and four, they still are very much in that division.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: You can still bounce, you can still bounce out of that.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: That's you can't depend on that.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: That's not gonna that's not gonna last all year.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, this early with this early in the season with that offense.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you're the best team is in that division.
19:27
unknown: Yeah.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: God, I don't even know.
19:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: None of them are good.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so let's I mean, yeah, Jaden Daniels looked good.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was I mean it was a I mean it was a good thing for them, um, for the ch for the Cowboys, them tying that game.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the Cowboys are probably laughing their ass off.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's better, yeah, for them and the Eagles.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: But um, I mean, no, what you're saying, Jane Daniels definitely did look pretty solid.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: Ran the ball.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he ran the ball a lot, which might have been a little bit concerning for some of the fans, but and they saw him getting for the touchdown and then I said keep running up his butt.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: They say that until he gets fucking smacked.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: So I did pick him up in fan I did pick him up in fantasy, so I'm hoping that he can stay healthy for a little bit.
20:17
SPEAKER_01: I fucking love JD.
20:19
SPEAKER_01: He's fucking he's a dog for sure.
20:22
SPEAKER_01: But um, I mean, I mean, who who were the who were the main people that he was throwing to?
20:27
SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like I was.
20:29
SPEAKER_01: McCorn had a decent game.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, McLaurin and uh Chico Kaku.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: They each had four catches.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh and they're I mean, Krosky Merritt also had a decent decent game on the ground, 82 yards for on 11 carries.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Rashad White, I mean, seven carries for 16 yards.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, if you can get in there, move the chains on some of those downs.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: He's not gonna remember one.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, if you if you come in there and give Krosky a little bit of a break, that's nice.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, I mean, it's kind of tough at the game that or the way that game went down.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: Um they were up what 27 to 13.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: Um and then New York scored a touchdown with 345 to make it 27-20.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, touchdown, punt and then um once OT, missed field goal, punt, fumble, and then the shit with the commanders.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean the game is uh the inning cycle.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean it there's other stories in between.
21:34
SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean Jameis played a Jameis game.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he didn't he didn't throw any picks, which was yeah, I mean minus that didn't throw any picks, he's gonna chuck the ball.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean this this commander's defense had been playing like well, I mean, since um Daniels got hurt, I thought the Commander's defense had kind of stepped it up a little bit.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they got that win without him, which is defin well 'cause that was against the Seahawks.
21:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but they gave up they still gave up thirty points now for the Seattle.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: But but the well they picked Sam Darnold twice though, I think, or once maybe.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, I mean their defense played good today, or good this last week, go just going into that last five minutes of the game, which is tough.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, James 27 is not airing it, though.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Just airing it out to neighbors likely.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, two solid threats for sure.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: Um both of them gonna eat.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: Scattering didn't have a crazy game, but still did.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, still averaging four and a half a carry.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Um taking some of the pressure off Jameis.
22:38
SPEAKER_01: Jameis still got out for 27 yards on five carries, so it's not bad.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: Running around on the running around.
22:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was crazy.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: That the that clock management match.
22:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: On the coach, yes, on everybody, but more the coach.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, because I mean it's crazy, it's well, I didn't it seemed like they didn't know that they didn't have a timeout.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that was it's crazy though, bro, because it was like 35 or like it was 30 plus seconds.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, they thought he had a timeout.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: Like the players, that's why they laid their center.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: The whole time that you're like the whole time as it goes down from 35 to 30, bro, like the the headsets on and you're fucking going over the play with the coach, like dude.
23:23
SPEAKER_02: The coach somehow maybe didn't or they didn't I guess I don't know, but just how they set their late was in no rush after internet.
23:32
SPEAKER_02: They obviously know how much time was like they just thought they had a time off.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: At that point, if you're Jane Daniels, you fucking look at the clock.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean I guess I mean I guess if that's that you gotta read it.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: It's still an excuse.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess like most of the coach, if anything, because the coach, you gotta have your team prepared and ready.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, because like I mean well, I was gonna say there's only two timeouts and overtime, which could be confusing because there's three in the like and yeah, that could throw you off for sure, but I mean you just g you just gotta be aware of the situation.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Um and but it's not a loss, so it could I mean it c it could potentially come back to play in their advantage, um come playoff time, so um just not having a loss.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: But um going to next one a little bit, Ravens Falcons.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: Um that was Sunday night, yeah, that was Sunday night football.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: Good comeback for the Ravens.
24:29
unknown: Okay, yeah.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I was surprised they're farmers scores.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: I mean the Falcons the Falcons uh I mean they I mean they played they played pretty good, but I feel like they I mean Falcons went up early, and I feel like their offense didn't really wasn't really clicking that.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean Ravens offense.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: Like in the blue shit either up until before up like the third quarter too.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: The third quarter, I think after I mean I mean I guess it was kind of I guess it was kind of late.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: I guess it was kind of late in the fourth quarter, but um they got one touchdown.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, so it was that punt recovery or that um fumble fumble fumble return touchdown for the uh Falcons.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: They went up seven and they uh got another touchdown, and then they didn't they didn't really do much other than that.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Um so I mean this I mean this was a good drive.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: I think it was what was it?
25:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, pass touchdown to E-boy Pitts.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Pitts got some love last week.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: But no, yeah, I mean I I mean they kicked a few field goals, but I mean it was pretty much just ravens and then fucking two or three.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, it was also tough because Penix was out.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: I think Penix got hurt late like I think he got hurt late in the fourth.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what did he came for?
25:47
SPEAKER_01: Or like early earlier no, two or did two or three.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: Tua through that pick, dude.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because two of came in and then um Penix came back in and played for a little bit.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: And then two of came back in, so yeah, right.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: But um dude, I mean, I feel like if you have a running back like Derrick Henry, it's gonna take 24 of the carries, it's gonna take 24 carries, um, eventually get 100 yards, and he also had that one touchdown catch for 18 yards.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: So 120 yards over the um over the whole receiving end rushing and a touchdown.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: Um he's good good for that one every week.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: Which is um, I mean, at a point, I can I can keep you in the game.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: Uh Tyler Huntley also got a rushing touchdown.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: Um was that or in uh yeah, Devontaz War, yeah.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: So Tyler Huntley threw three for 200 yards, 24 for 32.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, I mean, there was I mean that's I mean, because he was playing um he's he's been playing a little bit the last few years because Lamar's always been a little bit in and out.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's not really been super long with it.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: Like he's not really had anything super long term, but um yeah.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: Um no, I feel like whenever Huntley's came in though, he's been he's always been a pretty solid, pretty solid backup too.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he can get you through a couple games.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he got a big thing.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: Almost snuck me through the playoffs last year.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, against fucking Pittsburgh, dude.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: I remember that.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: He had a good drive and play good in that game, you know, got him in position to win it, and you know, as a quarterback, you know, especially a backup, that's you know, all they can ask is to get him in, you know, field goal range at least.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: You should be able to finish a rest.
28:01
SPEAKER_02: That's what the fuck a field goal kicker is there for.
28:03
SPEAKER_02: So you see what happened to Meavis.
28:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, fuck it, Meavis.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: Told you.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: I said that night, bro.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: When fucking McVeigh said, no, I know it needs to be done.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Went back in that bitch annually.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Fuck out of here, Meavis.
28:21
unknown: You already know what's going on.
28:23
unknown: Yeah, exactly.
28:24
unknown: Done.
28:25
unknown: Eight hours later, he's cut.
28:27
unknown: Yeah, exactly.
28:28
unknown: I know.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: Ain't no fucking coincidence.
28:30
SPEAKER_02: He knew we should have won that goddamn game.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: He missed two goddamn films.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: One got blocked, and then the other one fucking right.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if it got blocked, typically that means you didn't get high enough as a kicker.
28:44
SPEAKER_01: But it was it was going it was going wide anyway, dude.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what I'm saying.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: It was, but still, I mean, yeah, he's probably yeah, I mean, yeah, bro.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, he missed two cruciated won the game.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: I wish he would have missed it wide, bro.
28:56
SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't have been no overtime.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: So if you'd have fucking not got it blocked or missed whatever.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: He gave Buffalo a chance.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: Buffalo went back down and got a field goal or something.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember whatever.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: But it ended up going overtime.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, uh moving for it though.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, big win for the Ravens, Falcons.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh still much very alive and you know, kicking that division.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: That division's gonna come down to you know, them and and the and the Panthers for sure.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: Um Panthers have the fucking the nod right now, I think, is they've already played this year, didn't they?
29:34
SPEAKER_02: Falcons and the Panthers.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're the Panthers skunked them.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or they didn't skunk them.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: 34-34.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I know it's in Atlanta.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, Panthers um to me seems to be kind of the most the more complete team.
29:50
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, Dijon is a difference maker.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: Drake Lindan Bike.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: Drake London, and right where you have a quarterback situation is kind of like a big thing.
29:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean Phoenix, yeah.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: Bryce Young has played tremendous this year.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: He's played good the last two years.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: All last year, not I mean, you know, yeah, obviously that's bad game, everybody has a bad game, but for the most part, he played good last year, played good when they needed him to, got him into the playoffs.
30:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: But then they receive a quartering back.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: You know, they received McMillan as a fucking dog, and he's coming.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
30:20
SPEAKER_02: It's only his second year.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: That dude is gonna be a fucking dog.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: As long as, like, and I say this for everybody, as long as you stay healthy, you know what I'm saying?
30:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's just football is just tough.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, as long as he can stay healthy, and no time you're gonna be talking about him as a top five receiver.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Alexander Leggett.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: Top five.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, next year or two.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean, next couple years, absolutely.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: For McMillan.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: Next couple years, two years from now, he that we can if he stays at this trajectory, like I say, to stay healthy, absolutely.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: And he's got a young quarterback, you know, I mean a Bryce Young, twenty-six years old or something like that, you know.
30:58
SPEAKER_02: So that pairing is gonna be there for you know the next foreseeable future for sure.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, I don't see them getting rid of Bryce Young at all in time sooner, either one of them.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: And then Jalen Coker is another one up and coming, you know what I'm saying?
31:12
SPEAKER_02: He got hurt, but you know, the game he had against the Bears, you know, he's and he had a couple good games last year, so he and then Xavier Leggett.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, Carolina does their offense, hey, their their defense uh like you know what I mean say needs some work, you know what I mean, but you know, their offense can definitely score, you know, with the best of them for the most part.
31:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, they've had good outscoring or high outs or out, you know, scoring games this year.
31:38
SPEAKER_02: Um but uh um yeah, so you know, they're I I got them, you know, just as the favorites in that division overall, I think, just because they got a fucking reliable quarterback.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Um and none of the other teams do.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: Tyler Shuck has kind of came down to earth the last couple weeks, and the Saints are all of a sudden one and four.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: So um and then Buccaneers, we don't know what's going on there.
32:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, they're now two and four.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: So one and four anyway, yeah.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so you got two, one, yeah.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: So um, but yeah, shifting into this Niners and Hawks game was uh you know, was a great game.
32:17
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I watched a good portion of that.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think though it tells me more about I guess Seattle, um as far as the turnovers.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh if I would say anything, I mean the Rams or the Niners played good, but Seattle kind of gave that game to him with the costly fumbles and interceptions and then drop.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: That one yeah, I mean, but that was that was a big drop, which he dropped, you know, nine times out of ten he's catching that ball, but he also got absolutely cracked to play before that was on the ground for a good four or five minutes before he got back up.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: So he probably didn't even have his full wherewithal.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
33:04
SPEAKER_02: When he because he jumped early and just, you know what I mean.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: This is not a JS some JSN would do.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: This, you know, drop that type of ball at that time.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: Being that open.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
33:13
SPEAKER_02: We've seen him do it dozens and dozens of times.
33:16
SPEAKER_02: That's almost a guaranteed catch for him, you know.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: So um, and if he catches that ball, then it puts him in field goal.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: Right, and that's and then we come on a different game and you know, exactly.
33:26
SPEAKER_02: And Seattle, as bad as they play, they could have came out and came out and won.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: But they didn't.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: But San Francisco, you know, to me, still is the best team in that division right now, just because you know, for one quarterback you could.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: Fred Warner also went out in like the second second quarter, right?
33:45
SPEAKER_01: Did he?
33:45
SPEAKER_02: He got ejected for No, that was uh that was not Warner, that was um Greenlaw.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Greenlaw.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for that headbutt on uh fucking Earl Jones.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: That was crazy.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: Um but Seattle's defense is kind of a little surprised me, surprised me, but um giving up those points they gave up to the Chargers, giving up the points they gave up to Commanders, uh it's just not Seattle-esque.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Seahawks, yeah.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but this game I can't really put on them because, yeah.
34:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, and I can't put this game on them because their defense or Seattle's offense turned the ball over at the end of half, or at the end of the half in their own, you know, end zone, and San Francisco got a free touchdown from that, and then the two interceptions that Sam Darnold threw.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then they had another fumble, I'm pretty sure.
34:38
SPEAKER_02: So I think they turned the ball over four or five times and lost by three points.
34:41
SPEAKER_02: So Yeah, and they still put up 29 points on the on the ninth.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: On the nine.
34:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, good defense.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, and that's to be expected sometimes.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, this is like every game last year, and that's another reason I don't really put much on their defense because you know, both games last year against the Rams when they played, that was both games, I believe, went in the overtime.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, the one did on Thursday night, and the final score was like 35 to 38.
35:08
SPEAKER_02: Seattle won that game, and then a game in the playoffs, which I don't can't remember if it went to the overtime.
35:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't think it did, but that was another high scoring game between those two.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, at that point, you're just going against high part offenses and you know, the Niners have been rolling.
35:25
unknown: Yeah.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: Brock Purdy, like I said, that's why I think Brock Purdy has played the cleanest out of every quarterback in that division right now, as of now, so that's why I give the nod to the 49ers because he has played the best.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: Stafford has turned the ball over a lot this year, more than we've seen in the past.
35:44
SPEAKER_02: Sam Darnold has turned the ball over a lot, and Jacoby Bursai.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, as of now, Brock Purdy is playing for Arizona.
35:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're yeah, yeah, they're yeah, they're not really they're they're not gonna be a threat.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be a team that, you know, if you're not on your A game, they might fuck around and beat you.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: Like not a team to overlook, but they're not a threat as far as you know, to win that division.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: Um But no, that was a good game, though.
36:13
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, George Kittle played good.
36:17
SPEAKER_02: Mike Evans.
36:18
SPEAKER_01: It's been nice that uh McCaffrey staying healthy.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: He is again second season in a row.
36:23
SPEAKER_01: He's been nice in the red zone.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh I think he's got another touchdown last game, so um, I think just one.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: And then I mean, did Kittle get another touchdown?
36:32
SPEAKER_01: Can't remember.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Pretty sure Kittle did.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: I know.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: I know I know Mike know Mike Evans got another one.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: Um he have one or two picks?
36:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh one.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: He did have one.
36:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: But do Mike Evans won 13 on seven catches for a touchdown.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: He still got I mean, he's a big one, he's tough to R that's like a 6'3, 6'4.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
37:00
SPEAKER_02: He don't drop the ball, he's been doing it for a while, he's still got a lot left in the tank.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: That'll surprise me.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: Just telling me a few days ago he's a bum.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: He's old.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: He's a bum.
37:13
SPEAKER_01: He's old.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Seven catches?
37:16
SPEAKER_01: What?
37:17
SPEAKER_01: He's not a guy you're not yards.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: He's not somebody you don't worry about come, you know, playoffs.
37:22
SPEAKER_02: Somebody's like, you know what I mean?
37:23
SPEAKER_02: Like I don't know.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: He's not a top five, he's not a top receiver.
37:27
SPEAKER_02: Is he still decent?
37:28
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
37:29
SPEAKER_02: Bro, look at look at all those a thousand yard seasons, bro.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: That's correct.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: And look at the last two years before that.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bro.
37:37
SPEAKER_01: This year, like how much he had last year?
37:40
SPEAKER_01: Uh he only played eight games, though.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: But still, he only played 14 games and he still had a thousand.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: He's in his 13, he's in he's in his 13th year, though.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he still had uh a thousand yards.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: And he's got 326 right now.
37:54
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if he's on pace right now, but like that's still pretty good, bro.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's he had 368 and eight games last year, so he had 326 and five.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: What do you have the previous games before this?
38:06
SPEAKER_02: Look at his this the season running, you got three, whatever.
38:09
SPEAKER_02: And then takeaway that one.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: He didn't if you take away that one game against Seattle in 113, you we wouldn't be having a game.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: He's still got he's still got two touchdowns.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: He's at he's at three touchdowns.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: He's a red zone target.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's a big body.
38:24
SPEAKER_02: But that's what I'm saying.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's like though.
38:27
SPEAKER_02: If he had 40 yards, you wouldn't even be talking about Mike Evans right now.
38:32
SPEAKER_02: It'd be another game of having not even over 60.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: So last game, it was Kittle that got off for like two touchdowns.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: Kittle's had a good year.
38:42
SPEAKER_02: Kittle's been having a good year.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
38:44
SPEAKER_01: So I mean Brock Purdy's done, I mean, and Debo has had a kind of a surprisingly good year, a good start as well.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, did he come back?
38:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he came back.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: He got hurt.
38:53
SPEAKER_01: He might, yeah, yeah.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what happened to him.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he did come back.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: I can't, yeah.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: I I don't remember, or he strained his right hamstring pretty good.
39:05
SPEAKER_01: He missed at least a couple weeks.
39:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I mean, yeah, he had been playing good.
39:10
SPEAKER_01: So I mean Purdy had had a good amount of options.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: So I mean if Evans can stay healthy, I mean, yeah.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they got no what other receivers is out there.
39:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I mean Joan Jennings, I think, is one of the main ones.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he'd play for him anymore.
39:26
SPEAKER_01: Or uh he might, or oh, they got Brandon Cooks.
39:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if yes, I'm like Joan Jennings don't play for him no more.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, I mean they don't have Ricky Parasel, they don't have the receiver that they just drafted this year.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, Luke Farrell from Ohio State?
39:45
unknown: Yeah.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Tight ends.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's he's right.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: He's on there.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: He's alright.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean he had one target in Seattle.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: Who's that receiver they drafted this year that injured himself?
39:54
SPEAKER_01: He was he was well is is Ricky Purcell still hurt?
39:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think he's out for the season.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: No, you see, that's tough.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's um Jordan Watkins, maybe.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Is that the time or is that the receiver you're thinking of?
40:08
SPEAKER_01: They also have Christian Kirk on IR and Dejan uh Stribling.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: That's who it is.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: Yep, that's the one.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: That was their big time.
40:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's playing.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's not.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: Mike Evans, you know, if they had if Stribling was playing and Ricky Piero was playing, I don't know if Mike Evans would even be talked about at this point at all for sure.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: Ricky Piero is got good high upside.
40:35
SPEAKER_02: That's why he's still keeping his ass around, even though he's only played select games over the last three years.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: Plus, he got shot during the fucking burgery, which is crazy.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we should be talking that fuck or I don't know if we should be fucking talking that about Mike Evans, though.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: And not to mention, imagine it, Brandon Ayuk was in a fucking headcase, dude.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: And Brandon Ayuk was playing.
40:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, imagine, bro.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: Brandon Ayuke, bro.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: Mike Evans.
40:59
SPEAKER_02: Where's that guy even at?
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
41:01
SPEAKER_01: Where's that?
41:01
SPEAKER_01: That's why.
41:03
SPEAKER_02: He's still on a fucking contract.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm just, why haven't they released him?
41:06
SPEAKER_01: He's getting he's getting milk, bro.
41:08
SPEAKER_01: Why haven't they released him?
41:09
SPEAKER_01: He's milking him, bro.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: Who who knows what he's doing?
41:12
SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows, bro.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: That's the reason why.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Because he can still play, and they don't want this nigga to leave.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: They don't want they he he they know that he doesn't want to play for them, but they also know that he can still play.
41:24
SPEAKER_02: So they know they're they're not gonna release him, and then someone, especially in the fucking in the position, goes and picks up.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: That'll be a fucking that'll be a weird ass documentary if Brandon Ayu got fucking like I mean that's gonna be.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if if he doesn't if he doesn't play again or if he fucking I don't care, I don't know.
41:43
SPEAKER_01: What the fuck they're missing in fucking Brandon Ayu, what happened to him?
41:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna look up his Instagram, bro, and see if he's fucking posted anything at all.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: I was doing fucking bro, because he was fucking like I mean, how many years did he play in the league for?
41:56
SPEAKER_01: 18 minutes.
41:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh not that long.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: That's what you have.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the high upside.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: That's why they gave him that contract again.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: They gave him.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: And then he got hurt last year in the beginning of the year, and there was some issue between him and the team last year, so that's why he didn't come back, and then it just spilled into this year, and yeah.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: And they just I mean, they just signed a contract two years ago, so you know it'd be that's also a lot of dead money that they would have to eat up if they did release them, and then also you know, finding a suitable trade partner is gonna be very hard because of what he's been what he's been doing.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, so you know, they're kind of in the buy, so they kind of really gotta eat the contract.
42:41
SPEAKER_01: It's also the fact that that he hasn't played football in two years, or he hasn't played NFL in two years.
42:46
SPEAKER_02: So But um anyway, so moving forward to the Bills and Rams game.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, move to that.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was definitely probably I mean best game of the week for sure.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: Started off a little bit slow.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: Um didn't really didn't really know if it was gonna be much of a game.
43:04
SPEAKER_01: I think fucking Josh Allen had like 40 pass yards at halftime or some shit.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: And they were and and they were up 14-13, I think, at halftime.
43:14
SPEAKER_01: They were up by a point, I want to, I'm pretty sure.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: Then um, yeah, the rims.
43:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was I mean it was kind of a shootout a little bit in the second half.
43:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh it was it was it was a fourth quarter.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was like 50 some like 50 point score total in a fourth quarter or some shit like that between but fourth quarter and overtime, it was like some crazy amount of number that was scored just in that fourth quarter.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: They were going back at four for a minute in the fourth quarter.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they got to thirty-seven to fucking thirty-four.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: And it was thirteen to fourteen at halftime.
43:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
43:52
SPEAKER_02: So like that was like and it wasn't you know, the game wasn't that high scoring entering the fourth quarter.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it was.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Um but I mean no yeah, because I I mean I feel like they probably they probably started the scoring a little bit late in the third and then just carried over to the fourth because over time they only scored three.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: Just that Bill's field goal.
44:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: But I mean a big part of it.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, end of the fourth quarter is nineteen and twenty.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: End of the Rams are up.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: End of the third?
44:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then it ended fucking.
44:35
SPEAKER_02: Actually, sorry, my bad.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in the end of the third quarter, it was nineteen fourteen.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: And then forty seconds and the Rams scored and game elite.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it was nineteen fourteen at the end of the third quarter, and then the final score was fucking so we got here.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: Seven, fourteen, twenty-one, twenty-eight, thirty-five, thirty-eight.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: Thirty-eight points scored in fourth quarter in overtime.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy, too.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: I mean, bro, the fact that there was thirty-five points scored in one quarter.
45:12
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
45:12
SPEAKER_02: That's yeah.
45:13
SPEAKER_02: That's insane.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's fucking that's what I'm saying.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: Like it was some crazy ass number, dude.
45:18
SPEAKER_01: Dude, that was like I said it was just going back and forth from that fucking well bro, because the the uh the Rams, well, because the the Bills scored that touchdown.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: I remember at the end of the fourth and the Rams came down and Kyle.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: That one game.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
45:32
SPEAKER_01: It's like the one of the last places.
45:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Puka scored at 14 minutes and 16 left.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: Devontae got in, I think, as well.
45:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yep, Josh Allen got in with 11 minutes.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: So three minutes later, Josh Allen got in.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: And another three minutes after that, Devontae got in.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: And then six minutes later, James Cook got in, and then a minute and a half later, they were just cashing everywhere.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: Literally is no defense to be covered.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: Vegas team and Vegas called down there and said, Yeah, we're gonna give we're gonna give some people some money tonight.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: Well loose at next week.
46:09
SPEAKER_01: Right now.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: Monday night football, give them some fucking good luck.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: Literally, dude, because fucking all of the fucking big men touchdowns score.
46:20
SPEAKER_01: Like all like I mean, everybody that you would have thought got in, or or would have thought, or you who you would think would have gotten in.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, I mean, both of their both the fucking um running backs.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: Josh Allen, James Cook, Josh Allen, or and yeah, and Josh Allen.
46:39
SPEAKER_01: Um Kyron Williams, Devontae, Puka.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: Um the stars came on to play, right?
46:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
46:47
SPEAKER_01: Um as should be expected, but a lot of points.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, it's just it's tough.
46:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's kind of I mean, surprising for a little bit surprising for the Rams.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh defensive.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: They already got three hasn't been three losses.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, dude, their defense, I mean, they had sparks against the Bills for sure.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: I mean, bro, their pat the passing game was not there for the Bills like it like they usually have it.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: They had to get what they needed on the ground for sure.
47:14
SPEAKER_01: They were definitely a lot more run dominant um than they.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, not even that they use usually are because James Cook, I mean, if you can rely on Cook, well I mean, he won't I mean he had two big fumbles as well, though.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: So um he's gotta he's gotta stay out of that or just hold on to the ball a little bit better in those crunch time moments, but um Yeah, I forgot about that fumble.
47:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that could have cost him the game.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: But they're I mean their def I mean they're I mean those defense with the two big with those two big fucking punch outs.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean they got to Josh, I mean, I think I think maybe only one time.
47:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean I think because I remember Donald, you remember that Donald sack?
47:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:58
SPEAKER_01: I feel like they might have only got to him that one time.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: I feel like they didn't have another sack.
48:03
SPEAKER_01: Maybe one more, but now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think they did.
48:07
SPEAKER_01: But um yeah, I mean they I mean they I mean they made some stops when they needed to though.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: Like but I don't know.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: The LA I mean the LA offense.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean you know what's gonna be there, but it's that definitely the questions are more on the defense right now for sure.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Um Miles Garrett's a big big miss whenever he comes back.
48:32
SPEAKER_01: We'll definitely be we'll definitely save them a little bit, but he's gotta get surgery done, doesn't he?
48:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, pretty sure I'm already.
48:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean I mean, you know what uh what his timeline is, like around.
48:47
SPEAKER_02: November.
48:47
unknown: Okay.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: We'll see how they do over that span, but it'd be interesting.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: Not a lot of people would have expected them to have three losses through five games.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: So how much trouble are the Eagles?
49:12
SPEAKER_01: How much trouble are the Eagles in?
49:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh a lot.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean a lot Yeah, I mean well, because Saquon, Saquon and Devontae are both out at the moment.
49:30
SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: And then Lane Johnson just retired out of nowhere.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, did he?
49:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like last week or week before that.
49:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
49:39
SPEAKER_02: So that's a big offensive lineman gone.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know I I I yeah, I yeah, I I did hear about that actually.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't know where they're gonna be.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he just didn't know.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: He was confidently retiring before this season.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: But then he just like, yeah, he's just not in a mental place to keep playing football.
49:58
SPEAKER_02: So that's fair.
49:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I mean that's big loss for them middle of the season two, and then yeah.
50:05
SPEAKER_02: Um Saquon hasn't been healthy all year.
50:09
SPEAKER_02: Devontae still isn't, you mean that offense just I mean doesn't like and they lost Shipley as well.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: Two and three.
50:19
SPEAKER_01: Two and three, and they and they could easily be one and one and four because that last um or not the last, but there was fuck I forget who they came back on and won at the last minute.
50:33
SPEAKER_01: Well, they struggled against Tennessee.
50:38
SPEAKER_01: I think that's yeah, that yeah, that's the game that I'm thinking of.
50:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's a good one.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: When they were yeah, when they were down to Tennessee at home in January.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: No, no, well no, because they've got the Cowboys.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh Commanders.
50:53
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
50:55
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
50:55
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, there are two wins against the Commanders, a one and three and one team, and then a team that is fucking uh oh and fun.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: So, um yeah, I think they are in some trouble, but um the key word is how much trouble.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: It's not uh if they are in trouble is how much.
51:20
SPEAKER_02: And so I don't think they're in that much trouble because of the division they're in.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: They can still find a way to win that division.
51:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, but as far as like you know, championship contender or anything is passed wild card round.
51:38
SPEAKER_02: I can't see it unless something they make some type of trade or something in the middle of the season um to to to fix this.
51:46
SPEAKER_02: But you know, it's just kind of looking reminiscent of last year.
51:50
SPEAKER_02: And I think they were just, you know, running off that high of last year and still having a good portion of players over there um that they lost in the offseason or that were healthy last year and kind of helped them to, you know, their eleven and six record or twelve, whatever the fuck it was that they had last year.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: Um but they didn't look good all year last year, and they don't look good again this year.
52:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, I think they I don't know how much they're not in deep trouble, but they are in trouble as far as they need to say quant back at least.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they need yeah, I mean, yeah.
52:29
SPEAKER_01: And they need somebody to get the ball.
52:31
SPEAKER_01: And also Mackay Lemon hasn't puts a lot of pressure on Jalen.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and Mackay Lemon hasn't played for that good either.
52:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, he was a first round pay for them as kind of who you know they were keys out for a trade.
52:46
SPEAKER_01: I was kinda I was kind of high on him a little bit going into this season.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: I thought that means it's still he's still got time.
52:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's it's early, so I mean let me see what he's done through the first five games because I haven't even really heard about him that late.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: Has he even I don't think he's got a touchdown.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, well, it's I mean it's tough because these are a different type of offense where they don't really throw the ball as much.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: They're not they're trying they want to run the ball and throw with Jalen Hurts 20 to 25 times a game.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's ideal for that.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: They don't ever want him dropping back, throwing that bitch 30, 40, 50 times.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: Oh, they only beat the commanders by two points as well.
53:28
SPEAKER_01: I forgot about that.
53:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was close as fuck, too.
53:31
SPEAKER_02: But um, no, he doesn't.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: 15 catches, 100 yards, and and five games.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: So that's what I'm saying.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: He's averaging fucking 20 yards a game and you know, five catches or fifteen, so three catches a game with five or twenty yards.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's you know, I mean, like I said, uh doesn't help that Devontae Smith is out, so you know he has no one to alleviate that pressure.
54:01
SPEAKER_02: And then Dallas Goddard is older.
54:04
SPEAKER_02: Um the defense is is still decent, like they still have a decent defense.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: Still hanging on a little bit.
54:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean they got a good enough defense for offense or whatever they can be.
54:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but when the offense is just not as when the offense is getting off the field and like I mean they might get one, two first downs, but you still like punting it, maybe getting a field goal.
54:25
SPEAKER_01: That defense is just on the field too much, you're just gonna wear them down.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
54:29
SPEAKER_02: And they, you know, they blew a fucking a lead, late lead against Jacksonville and did it against the Rams.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, had a chance to get it.
54:40
SPEAKER_01: Off that kick return to that like the dude, that's the fuck like dude, that's gotta be the one of the most agonizing ways to lose as an offense, bro.
54:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, bro, literally, like I mean we'll yeah, like a well, like especially at like as the team for sure, but like like as the offense, like you're fucking hype, you just gotta like you just gotta fucking or yeah, you like you just gotta or yeah, for the special teams, like I mean for the whole team at that point.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: Like you get off the field with fucking like whatever it was, seven seconds left, I think it was.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: Or eight seconds, the fucking kickoff, gets gets gets out of gets down to the fucking 40 and literally nine, yeah.
55:20
SPEAKER_01: And then he fucking kicked that bitch and went and sellied in the end zone, bro.
55:25
SPEAKER_01: Like crazy, bro.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: Well, dude, I think I think I saw that was the first time in NFL history that um two teams or that it like that the leads have gotten changed in the last or that two teams have gotten points in the last eight set like in the last 10 seconds, I think, of the game.
55:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I thought that's what I think.
55:43
SPEAKER_01: That both that both teams, like that's that's crazy.
55:46
SPEAKER_01: That's that's insane.
55:48
SPEAKER_01: I was like, what?
55:48
SPEAKER_01: Well no, bro, because I think it was uh it was that morning game, right?
55:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought fucking Jacksonville had won.
55:55
SPEAKER_01: And then I it was literally that afternoon, bro.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize until I was looking at ESPN a little bit later, and I was yeah, it was in the afternoon that I actually re that I realized, or yeah, no, I I thought the Eagles had won, but and then I saw Jacksonville came back, and I was that's what's crazy.
56:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, man, what yeah, that could have happened.
56:17
SPEAKER_01: Went down and looked at it and fucking uh crazy.
56:22
SPEAKER_02: But move a forward chargers, biggest shock of the year here, 0-5.
56:28
SPEAKER_02: Biggest shock of the year, yeah.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
56:31
SPEAKER_02: Coming into it, I think I would have been out of the way.
56:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I wouldn't expect as bad as they've looked because they haven't looked good.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: No, it'd be different if they were like in these.
56:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they could have beat Buffalo.
56:44
SPEAKER_01: It's surprising because they brought in the body.
56:46
SPEAKER_01: They could have beat maybe Seattle.
56:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's surprising though because they brought in Mike McDaniel and the fact that Herbert and Rhodes.
56:56
SPEAKER_01: It just doesn't it just doesn't look like it just doesn't look like their offense really has anything going on.
57:01
SPEAKER_01: That's another thing that we've got.
57:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he's like bro, like I mean, bro, it's gotta be it's it has to be, bro.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: He has to be your number one receiver, bro.
57:12
SPEAKER_02: You can't force a guy who ain't a number one receiver.
57:15
SPEAKER_02: I mean he's questionable, so yeah, he's he's not healthy.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: He's all that's a problem.
57:20
SPEAKER_02: He ain't been healthy really a lot of his career.
57:23
SPEAKER_02: In and out of the lineup.
57:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, kind of similar to Brock Bowers where Brad Bowers delivers, but I mean he's just I mean he's I mean 82, 35, 66, like him, 12 catches for 183 and a touchdown.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh but he got hurt, but he got hurt in that Seattle game, though.
57:41
SPEAKER_01: Well, let me see.
57:41
SPEAKER_01: What is he?
57:43
SPEAKER_01: 12 12 catches for 183.
57:46
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, bro, how bad Herbert's been playing, I I mean, still it's touch me to that it's just yeah.
57:56
SPEAKER_02: And they can't run the ball right now.
57:58
SPEAKER_02: The defense can't hopefully that boy Keon Vidal can open him up a little bit, my boy.
58:04
SPEAKER_02: Maybe uh just maybe not a good fit for you know in the hardball.
58:11
SPEAKER_01: Um or McDaniel or Herbert?
58:15
SPEAKER_01: Herbert, yeah.
58:16
SPEAKER_02: Herbert or whatever, maybe I don't I don't I don't know, but you know what I'm saying?
58:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Herbert is the problem.
58:24
SPEAKER_02: He's some of the problem.
58:25
SPEAKER_02: He has some of it, but he's not the biggest.
58:27
SPEAKER_02: Like he you know, you could kind of it's not too late in his career where he could kind of like not completely flush the team out, but still slowly rebuild.
58:39
SPEAKER_02: He's 27, I think.
58:40
SPEAKER_02: Twenty-seven, twenty-eight.
58:42
SPEAKER_02: So he's not gonna be able to do it.
58:43
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah, so you can still you know what I'm saying, start to kind of build bra I mean, but like, yeah, that team is just I mean, their uh is in in uh kind of big trouble just as their this and the their record not rec but schedule.
59:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
59:05
SPEAKER_02: Playing Kansas City, then they play, I think, Denver again, and then they play, I mean they just and then Jacksonville, I think they feel like they have it's like the next four or five games are against teams that are all have winning records right now.
59:19
SPEAKER_02: So I mean like I don't know when they're gonna get I mean they they and that's why I think it's the biggest surprise is they might be fucking two and ten or three and I mean two and nine at some point or some shit like that.
59:31
SPEAKER_02: Or like two and eight.
59:33
SPEAKER_02: I mean you think about that.
59:34
SPEAKER_02: You look at that roster.
59:36
SPEAKER_01: The one game they should have won was that week one against the Cardinals.
59:40
SPEAKER_01: That's the Cardinals won win.
59:42
SPEAKER_01: No, they like the Cardinals.
59:46
SPEAKER_02: They should have been Buffalo.
59:47
SPEAKER_02: They were winning that game the whole game.
59:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Seattle kind of led them back into the game, but at the end, but they were never really in the game.
59:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, yeah.
59:55
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, like, you know, that team is just uh what I mean, Kansas City isn't gonna make those mistakes that you know.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_01: The offense is their offense is clutch and their defense is good for for cut.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_02: So they're not gonna yeah, that can that make this be kind of close off the strength of it being a divisional game.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_02: Because that's the one thing I will say is the Chargers haven't been every game has been a close game.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_02: Um they haven't been blown out that I can think of the Bills game was close.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh this past game, who they just who they lose to this past week.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_02: The Chargers.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_02: Broncos lost by six.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I mean every game they've been, you know, they've been close.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_01: They didn't lose by much of the Broncos.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_01: What did you what you think about what you think about that Broncos Chargers can't be?
1:00:46
SPEAKER_01: Have you sweating?
1:00:49
SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like, dude, I I feel like it was like within a three-point game, like relatively late.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_01: Like I mean, your all game was just I mean Chargers had to leave for a second.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_02: 1710 and then the Broncos came and scored, and then it was field goals, I think, after that.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_02: And then Chargers got the ball late and the Broncos stopped him.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, I mean, I think yeah, the season is definitely over for them.
1:01:17
unknown: Yeah.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean I don't think there's a way that they're not making it into a playoffs.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's got some, yeah, they're done.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_02: Owen five is yeah.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_02: That's what I mean.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like you know, you expect this from the Raiders, not really the Chargers.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_02: Especially being in LA, yeah, it's tough.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: They've made the playoffs in the last two, three years, I think.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, so I mean they've yeah, yeah.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_01: Starting off and especially with Harbaugh, Herbert, like Erwin James over there.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_01: You just get a new OC up there who's playing.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_01: Who had done okay, like not like great, but it's Houston was gonna be up there for me, but Houston uh has been in every game as well.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: And they've tended to get off to late starts.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_02: And I think even if they'd have played if the Chargers would have played the Titans this week, that would have probably would have been a close game.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_02: I think that'd have been like a 17-20.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_02: If the Chargers would have won, it'd have been something like that.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_01: We see how the Titans played against the Eagles, right?
1:02:22
SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_01: The Titans are up on the Eagles relatively good.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_01: Titans are up on the Eagles by a touchdown, or or I think they've won.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_01: Just going back and forth.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think the Eagles ended up winning that game by two points against the Titans.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_01: So they were 24.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_01: So they were up, they were up by five, four, six points, no five points going into fucking the two-minute war, going after the two-minute warning.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, they were playing good, bro.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_01: Like they're yeah, I mean, I honestly wouldn't really have expected Philly to come down and make that like make that drive, bro.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_01: Like I I don't know, but I mean it's kinda hurts doing what he's doing, what he has been able to do in the past, but we'll see.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_01: Um if that kind of goes, that kind of keeps going a little bit.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_01: But um yeah.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_01: But I mean we've got a few I mean we gotta fucking cover these last runs quick.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean Vikings 5-0, are they serious?
1:03:19
SPEAKER_01: Um I think if if the quarterback play is a little bit more consistent, yeah, yeah.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean the defense is gonna fizzle up.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, honestly, like I mean covering your offense's ass.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think I mean I think Aaron Jones is good.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_01: If Aaron Jones can get you some solid, I mean some solid games um and and relieve that pass game a little bit.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you also gotta get Jefferson involved.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_01: Have to.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean you got Hawkinson over there, is also a good weapon at tight end.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_01: Um and and their defense is good.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_01: So you don't really have to worry ton about their defense, but we'll also see once they start playing some of their some of their divisional games.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_01: Um I mean they already beat the Packers.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we haven't played Chicago or yet they beat the Packers in Chicago.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_02: So they're two and all.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_02: They haven't played the Lions yet.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_02: It's the only one in their vision, so that's coming up next week.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: So um I guess that'd be a big tell us against a very good offense in the Lions, so it'll be a test for that Vikings defense.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_02: We'll know if they're legit if they go over there and you know put a muzzle on that offense or you know, clamp up the boys.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_02: It is in Detroit, too.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I mean they go down there and it'll be a good game.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_02: Able to stuff Gibbs or something like that, or you know, just make it an ugly game because that's what Minnesota wants to do.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_02: They want to make it a you know, a low-scoring, ugly game.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, if they're able to do that, then you know, I mean, all they need is a little production from the offense and defensive carry away, but shit.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's all right.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_01: We gotta wrap it up here.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_01: CBD out.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_01: Definitely a fucking thank you for feeling week five.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_01: I feel week six, baby.