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The Breakfast Club BEST OF - Inspirational - Pastor Mike Todd, Ty Tribbett, Sarah Jakes Roberts + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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  Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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  Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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  Speaker 1: yo yo yo Jess, hilarry as some morning.
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  Speaker 2: Today's Wednesday, and Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you
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  Speaker 2: and yours.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully you with family, you're on your.
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  Speaker 2: Way to hang out with family, or you're just relaxing
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  Speaker 2: and enjoying your time off. If you have your time
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  Speaker 2: off today, it's all about inspiration this morning. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's Christmas, right, So we have Sarah Jake Robins joining
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  Speaker 2: us this morning, Kirk Franklin and Tyd Trivit. So don't
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  Speaker 2: go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chests,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're mad or blessed.
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  Speaker 4: So we've got out at the same nag.
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  Speaker 3: We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 4: Hello this Hey, this is Lauren from New York.
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  Speaker 1: NAE Lauren, Good morning to get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 3: Laurence.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, basically I'm calling because I'm very upset. I met
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  Speaker 4: someone I felt like he was the love of my life.
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  Speaker 4: After a year, and then one morning I just came
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  Speaker 4: and took him away from my house.
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  Speaker 5: And I have never heard.
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  Speaker 3: Ice Ice att Yeah, Ice, where's he from? He was Mexican?
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  Speaker 4: No, Jamaican?
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  Speaker 3: Oh you're Jamaican. So well. He didn't have his papers.
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  Speaker 4: Though, No, I mean, I guess I think he did.
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  Speaker 6: He had a whole life here.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not Ice came to get him. He had his papers, right,
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  Speaker 7: He was trying to marry you to get that green cart.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god, oh god.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just been in shocked.
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  Speaker 4: I've been very upset, like they took my baby, Like.
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  Speaker 8: Where's Jamaica? Go to Jamaica?
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  Speaker 3: Are you sure that's my baby?
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  Speaker 9: Go to Jamaica?
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  Speaker 10: No?
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  Speaker 3: Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure? They
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  Speaker 3: took him?
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  Speaker 7: But he might have just been over you and had
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  Speaker 7: some people come over and pretend to be Ice got
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  Speaker 7: to go back home.
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  Speaker 4: No, they took him. They came after him like he
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  Speaker 4: owes something to the devil to himself. They threw him
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  Speaker 4: on the ground and called him most types of names.
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  Speaker 3: And you can't find a way, and you can't find him. No,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Nope, Nope, what's his name? I'm not going to say that.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't trying to find that. You don't care about
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  Speaker 3: that man.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to move to Jamaica. You don't want
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  Speaker 3: to shout him out over the radio.
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  Speaker 9: I ain't need to say move.
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  Speaker 8: I just said go damn. She like now ill she said.
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  Speaker 3: The man is married.
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  Speaker 4: Though no, no, I didn't say it was married.
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  Speaker 6: I need to understand what he does first.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm just going over there like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: even know.
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  Speaker 6: What he did. But that baby, I know it's.
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  Speaker 4: One day they evaded, the next day they's something else.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You were fine, We were fine.
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  Speaker 8: She just woke up thinking about him.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, third, it's j.
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  Speaker 3: J.
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  Speaker 1: Get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 12: So interesting enough.
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  Speaker 6: I get through every time I call it. You guys
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  Speaker 6: every week and Charlemagne shows love sometime, but dj MB
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  Speaker 6: hangs up on me every week and today it's got
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  Speaker 6: to stop.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you, M so.
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  Speaker 6: I just need him to work on his attitude.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 6: That's all I need to say.
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  Speaker 8: I'll stay sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Old you hang up on that man, that just respecting.
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  Speaker 3: That might have been God testing you.
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  Speaker 9: You know, no, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: He's still there. That might have been gone.
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  Speaker 1: A great day. You have a great week.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, exactly, you hung up on that man.
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  Speaker 3: That was God. That was God testing you when you feel.
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  Speaker 1: He was right there.
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  Speaker 8: He wanted to get back.
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  Speaker 3: He went to hang up. He went hanging on me too. Allright,
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  Speaker 3: we even job?
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  Speaker 9: Hello?
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  Speaker 1: Who's this?
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  Speaker 3: Yo?
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  Speaker 6: Always having the ship?
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  Speaker 13: Boy?
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  Speaker 6: John Man?
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  Speaker 11: What if?
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  Speaker 6: Envy charlamagnea go beautiful chess?
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  Speaker 8: Good morning?
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  Speaker 3: What's happening now?
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  Speaker 6: I gotta get it off my chest?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 6: Listen, man, took this out. I just got off at
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  Speaker 6: six o'clock. Right, I'm trying to go to McDonald's and
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  Speaker 6: get me a nice fresh hot saucy and cheese, make
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  Speaker 6: muffin faut. He's mother got the nerve to have an
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  Speaker 6: attitude because day late, I supposed to be opening six o'clock.
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  Speaker 6: It's six. J'all ain't opened up yet. Then we gotta
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  Speaker 6: wait two three minutes if we short staffed and all that. Yo,
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  Speaker 6: listen man, it's not my problem, bro. You might got
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  Speaker 6: there business man.
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  Speaker 7: Well, that's not the attitude I understand, but that's not
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  Speaker 7: the attitude to half. Everybody's probably a little stressed out
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  Speaker 7: this morning, okay.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, but they still have to be able to maintain
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  Speaker 14: a level of professionalism because the customer is never always
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  Speaker 14: is never wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but not in this case.
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  Speaker 6: The same thing happened yesterday, the opening up yesterday, Bro,
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  Speaker 6: say mcmuphin every morning when I get over a stick man,
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  Speaker 6: it's nothing but what city? Nothing?
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  Speaker 1: Where you from?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 6: I'm in Georgia, Man, I hate to say I'm from
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  Speaker 6: New York. I'm from Brooklyn. So you're gounderstand my pain. Man,
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  Speaker 6: I'm in George with.
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  Speaker 7: You can't understand your pain. But I'll tell you one thing.
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  Speaker 7: Man is will take you where money won't. So if
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  Speaker 7: you just you know, especially if you go there all
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  Speaker 7: the time and you're a nice person, they'll probably be
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  Speaker 7: happy to see you coming.
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  Speaker 12: Pause.
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  Speaker 3: And I know what justice this might trigger. Jessica, she
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  Speaker 3: wanted to work there?
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  Speaker 6: Did you'll follow me on Instagram?
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  Speaker 9: Man, fatherhood?
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever have this problem when you work at McDonald's.
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  Speaker 14: Why do we tell people to get it off their chests?
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  Speaker 14: If you always got something to say when they're getting it.
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  Speaker 2: Off, get it off your chest? Eight hundred and five
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  Speaker 2: eight five one oh five one. If you need the event,
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  Speaker 2: let's discuss this's breakfast clog of morning.
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  Speaker 3: The breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 14: I'm telling, I'm telling what you doing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this is your time to get it off your chest,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred and five eight
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  Speaker 1: five one.
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  Speaker 9: O five one.
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  Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: what was this going on?
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  Speaker 3: What up?
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  Speaker 1: Ted?
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  Speaker 3: You said?
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  Speaker 13: Tag?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Ted tad t isn't teddy?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: All right, we'll get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 6: Ted, I'm calling in this corner, man, I'm here making.
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  Speaker 7: That's why I say it ain't stereotype if it's true,
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  Speaker 7: because I knew something was up. I was about to
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  Speaker 7: ask you, what do you identify as? But I was
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  Speaker 7: gonna mind my business this morning. But you let the
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  Speaker 7: world know.
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  Speaker 5: No, Oh, definitely identify as a woman.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, what's the faith?
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  Speaker 6: You're a stud though, Yeah, I'm I'm a dude in
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  Speaker 6: the relationship.
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  Speaker 3: What's the faith?
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  Speaker 6: A faith? That would be something that you would call it.
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  Speaker 15: It's kind of like, because we already out here anyway
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  Speaker 15: we wanna be doing. But it's like you or you
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  Speaker 15: are stood and you have a sake for me and
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  Speaker 15: on the loaf you made it hard for us.
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  Speaker 3: The real was that you can't be BOASEDU no, you.
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  Speaker 6: Can't be that.
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  Speaker 8: Ain't how we roll it.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's enough, triple C. What's the sin? I don't
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  Speaker 3: get what the sin is.
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  Speaker 6: We already doubles in it. They already say by being
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  Speaker 6: what we are.
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  Speaker 7: So you want people, you want the real studge of
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  Speaker 7: the world, to just swell off. They can't have no
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  Speaker 7: penis whatsoever?
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  Speaker 6: No, no, nothing, man, just go be here if you better.
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  Speaker 7: Off Jesus, cause wouldn't that be prescytarian?
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  Speaker 3: No fish, y'all eat fish?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I wasn't eat some fish.
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  Speaker 15: But you know the human body ain't fish.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, he wasn't you know what?
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  Speaker 3: Never mind?
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  Speaker 1: I tell you have a good one.
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  Speaker 6: All right, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, y'all. Listen to tad Man. All y'all.
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  Speaker 7: Studs out there, stop faking the funk, all right? Leading
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  Speaker 7: penises alone has studs?
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  Speaker 3: Who is this yo?
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  Speaker 1: This clip? Clip? Get it off your chest. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I went to the a few days ago.
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  Speaker 2: How I left or somebody put you on your ass.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know how you left? Somebody knock you out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how I left the box.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how I left.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you don't play boxing, bro Bro, we got will
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  Speaker 3: he be in here. WILLI di is a what is it?
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  Speaker 7: Willie?
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  Speaker 3: Whether it gold you said golden glove, golden glove. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's what's up.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, but I don't know how I left though.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't go back there, all right, Maybe you
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  Speaker 2: should be boxing.
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  Speaker 3: How long you've been training?
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  Speaker 6: I I think you're doing as far as I've never
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  Speaker 6: really trained with it.
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  Speaker 2: There's your problem. See, that's the problem. People just want
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  Speaker 2: to jump into golden gym and just start sparring. There's
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  Speaker 2: more to that, right, You're right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got hitting the nose. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: he got hit in it, but his phone ain't known
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  Speaker 3: no more.
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  Speaker 1: Get it off your chest eight hundred five.
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  Speaker 2: Eight five one O five one. If you need to
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  Speaker 2: vent hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning. Off the red nose red?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, had up? Ever whatever I saw?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't even say breakfast club pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ n V Charlamage the guy. We are
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  Speaker 1: to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed we have Pastor Mike Todd.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome brother.
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  Speaker 12: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Family?
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  Speaker 11: Good?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 12: But I'm blessed man. I'm at the breakfast club with y'all.
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  Speaker 3: I'm blessed, black and holly favored.
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  Speaker 11: You are definitely black, blessed and highly favored. It feels
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  Speaker 11: I feel like all of us are blessed, black and hot.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely feels good. Thank you for having me. Man, Happy
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  Speaker 11: to have you.
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  Speaker 7: Man, new book, damage would not destroyed from trauma to triumph.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, sir, powerful title.
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  Speaker 11: Bro. It's my life, okay, and it's honestly, I believe
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  Speaker 11: a lot of people's life that they don't share.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 11: You see everybody from people who go from the gutter
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  Speaker 11: to this big platform, or people who've just made it
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  Speaker 11: out of the hood or just made it from where
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  Speaker 11: they thought they would never come. But then they shut
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  Speaker 11: up and stopped telling the actual story about how they
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  Speaker 11: got from where they were to where they are.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I have a theory about that. What is it?
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  Speaker 7: I think the theory now, Like I'm forty five years old.
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  Speaker 7: So you look good, so grown, thank you brother. So
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  Speaker 7: growing up, you know, it was those stories of overcoming,
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  Speaker 7: those stories of making mistakes and you know, becoming a
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  Speaker 7: better person that we always gravitated towards, that we learned
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  Speaker 7: from nowadays because of this soul called cancel culture. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: nobody wants to talk about the mistakes that they made. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 7: nobody because they feel like they'll be judged for them
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  Speaker 7: and crucified form, which they probably.
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  Speaker 12: Will, but it's temporary.
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  Speaker 11: Like the truth of the matter is, because I'm a
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  Speaker 11: person of faith, I believe the truth of the matter
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  Speaker 11: is the we overcome by the blood of the Lamb.
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  Speaker 3: That's what crisis them.
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  Speaker 11: But the words of our own testimony, even if you
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  Speaker 11: don't believe what I believe. The truth is when you
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  Speaker 11: see somebody else go through something and you make it
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  Speaker 11: through it, it gives you courage, It gives you hope,
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  Speaker 11: it gives you dang maybe I can do that too.
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  Speaker 11: And a lot of people are robbing other people of
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  Speaker 11: the fuel that they need to overcome their actual situation
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  Speaker 11: because they scared. Number one and number two is because
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  Speaker 11: they feel like maybe my worst moment defined me. But
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  Speaker 11: I found that in my worst moment, that's who That's
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  Speaker 11: what made me absolutely and so I just wanted to
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  Speaker 11: come like completely clean, completely raw. I say, hot, humble,
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  Speaker 11: open and transparent, and I mean it takes also the
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  Speaker 11: power out of what anybody can ever say about me.
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  Speaker 7: I used to know I believe you. I agree with
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  Speaker 7: everything you say. I always say, live your truth, so
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  Speaker 7: nobody can use your truth against you. Well, boy, they
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  Speaker 7: will try.
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  Speaker 3: They'll try.
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  Speaker 11: The truth of the matter is, but if it's real,
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  Speaker 11: like when you cut it open and it's real and
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  Speaker 11: you actually grew from it, and you actually learned from
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  Speaker 11: the cheating and you actually.
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  Speaker 12: Did the work and with the therapy and you actually yeah.
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  Speaker 11: No, I did embezzle that money, but I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 11: do that and never again. And I'm like, when you
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  Speaker 11: actually grow. I believe that this life is about progression,
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  Speaker 11: not perfection. And on the GRAM and in front of people,
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  Speaker 11: were always trying to present perfection.
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  Speaker 3: But I really believe, like.
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  Speaker 11: When you cut it all down, it's one baby step
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  Speaker 11: in front of another baby step in front of another
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  Speaker 11: baby step, and you look up and like, how did
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  Speaker 11: I get here? It was a bunch of small moments
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  Speaker 11: that got you today.
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  Speaker 1: Moment.
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  Speaker 2: How important is a support system, right, because yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: came with your wife, Charlamaze been with his wife twenty
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  Speaker 2: five and then with my wife thirty How important is that?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of times you hear people say I don't
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  Speaker 2: need that, I'm looking for a guy that's gonna make
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  Speaker 2: this much money, but that's done.
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  Speaker 1: They never talk about the heart.
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  Speaker 11: The truth of the matter is dumb. Yeah you say that,
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  Speaker 11: it's dumb. Like I tell people all the time. I
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  Speaker 11: did a book. My first book was called Relationship Goes,
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  Speaker 11: and I have this whole chapter in the book about
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  Speaker 11: rip up your list. And I know people are gonna
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  Speaker 11: say whatever they're gonna say about they got this list,
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  Speaker 11: you're still single. The truth of the matter is, like
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  Speaker 11: the truth of the matter is is a lot of
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  Speaker 11: times God never hands you a finished product. He hands
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  Speaker 11: you something you gotta work. And that's why Ike is
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  Speaker 11: one of the greatest furniture companies. No matter what you
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  Speaker 11: think about it is they give you something that you
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  Speaker 11: have to put your hands to, to a symbol, and
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  Speaker 11: it gives people another greater level of satisfaction because when
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  Speaker 11: they actually put their hands in to help make that
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  Speaker 11: thing happen, it feels like I've accomplished something. Relationship is
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  Speaker 11: the same way God never TDJ says it. God never
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  Speaker 11: gives you a table, he gives you a tree. Sure,
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  Speaker 11: the same thing with the relationship. And so I think
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  Speaker 11: many times people need to rip up their lists and
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  Speaker 11: actually look for the things that are in the heart.
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  Speaker 11: You can't instagram integrity, you can't facebook faithfulness.
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  Speaker 3: And so look at my man. He dd it up.
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  Speaker 11: The greatest things that have made me and my wife's
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  Speaker 11: relationship work, I cannot show you on a post. It
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  Speaker 11: has to be lived out, proved out, and over time.
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  Speaker 11: And so when you say support system, bro, that is
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  Speaker 11: literally the only reason I'm here right now is because
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  Speaker 11: I got people who could see me at my worst
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  Speaker 11: and still think of me in my best situation to steal.
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  Speaker 3: Like, while it still smells.
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  Speaker 11: Like that word that you said just the second ago,
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  Speaker 11: they still walking with me, and like, I'll actually be
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  Speaker 11: with you because I know it's not gonna be like this.
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  Speaker 11: The whole time I tell people, community is everything. Having
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  Speaker 11: mentors is everything. Being around people that are further than
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  Speaker 11: you is everything. And if you're gonna deal with your damage,
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  Speaker 11: you need that because a lot of people do it
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  Speaker 11: in isolation, and COVID has really jacked up people. And
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  Speaker 11: when I say that, I'm not even talking from a
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  Speaker 11: health standpoint physically, I'm talking about a mental health standpoint,
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  Speaker 11: a spiritual health standpoint, a relational health standpoint. People went
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  Speaker 11: into their caves and started spectating on what everybody was doing,
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  Speaker 11: and it made them look out instead of looking.
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  Speaker 7: What was your breakthrough moment that incled you to be
• 13:17
  Speaker 7: so vulnerable in this book, Bro, I have.
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  Speaker 3: A son, our second son. His name is MJ my namesake.
• 13:24
  Speaker 11: He has autism, and me and my wife we're going
• 13:26
  Speaker 11: through the height of our ministry and our business is
• 13:30
  Speaker 11: growing and everything's exploding.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: My first book goes number one New York Times bestseller.
• 13:35
  Speaker 11: I barely graduated English class, Like, I'm in a shock.
• 13:39
  Speaker 11: And then our only son, we take him to the
• 13:42
  Speaker 11: doctor and they're like, yeah, he's not progressing normally. He's
• 13:45
  Speaker 11: not talking, he's not looking anymore. And he was going
• 13:48
  Speaker 11: the right way, and then just something switched. And my
• 13:51
  Speaker 11: motor has always been let me be greater, let me
• 13:53
  Speaker 11: be better, let me make more money, let me do this.
• 13:55
  Speaker 11: And I tried to do everything I knew how to do,
• 13:58
  Speaker 11: and it didn't fix nothing. Bigger platform, writing another book,
• 14:01
  Speaker 11: making more money, it didn't do anything. And so when
• 14:04
  Speaker 11: my motor broke, it was like, what's going on. I'm
• 14:06
  Speaker 11: watching my wife slip into depression. Nothing is working, and
• 14:11
  Speaker 11: so I was like, hold on, we got to start
• 14:12
  Speaker 11: working on this I was sitting with my mentor, Tim
• 14:14
  Speaker 11: Ross at a crackle barrel outside of Oklahoma City, and
• 14:18
  Speaker 11: I was just telling them what I was going through,
• 14:20
  Speaker 11: and we started thinking about back over.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: My life and he said yep.
• 14:24
  Speaker 11: He was like, yeah, when did God's standard become lower
• 14:29
  Speaker 11: than your standard? And I was like, what are you
• 14:31
  Speaker 11: talking about. He was like, Michael, you've been telling me
• 14:33
  Speaker 11: all this stuff. You want to make better and you
• 14:34
  Speaker 11: want it to be great. You keep using this word great, great, great,
• 14:37
  Speaker 11: he said, But in the beginning, when God created the
• 14:39
  Speaker 11: heavens and the earth, he looked at it and he
• 14:40
  Speaker 11: said it's good. And then he created the stars, and
• 14:43
  Speaker 11: he created the land and said, h you go right here,
• 14:45
  Speaker 11: you go right here, created the animals. Going through the
• 14:47
  Speaker 11: whole creation, he said it's good. Then he created man
• 14:49
  Speaker 11: on the sixth day, and he said, you know what,
• 14:51
  Speaker 11: that's very good. He said, if God's standard is.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Good, why is yours great? Then he asked me this question,
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: He said, when did you make a decision that good
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: w it was not good enough?
• 15:00
  Speaker 11: And immediately I went back to twelve years old when
• 15:04
  Speaker 11: I'm in church. My parents raised us in church, and
• 15:07
  Speaker 11: I played drums since I was young, and I would
• 15:09
  Speaker 11: go at twelve years old to the choir rehearsal because
• 15:12
  Speaker 11: my dream was to play in big church, like play
• 15:15
  Speaker 11: with the big choir, like not the you for the
• 15:17
  Speaker 11: junior or I wanted to play and I was good,
• 15:19
  Speaker 11: and I would go every Tuesday, only twelve year old
• 15:21
  Speaker 11: there and they would never let me play. They would
• 15:24
  Speaker 11: tell me I was great. They would tell me that, man,
• 15:25
  Speaker 11: you getting so good and bingch my cheeks, take all
• 15:28
  Speaker 11: the little stuff, but they would never let me play.
• 15:30
  Speaker 11: They probably had a legitimate reason, but I remember sitting
• 15:32
  Speaker 11: on that maroon chair in the back and deciding, I
• 15:36
  Speaker 11: guess good is not good enough.
• 15:38
  Speaker 12: I will only be great.
• 15:39
  Speaker 11: And what ended up happening from twelve years old to
• 15:42
  Speaker 11: thirty five years old. I would not settle for anything good.
• 15:46
  Speaker 11: And now I'm looking at my son and he's not good,
• 15:50
  Speaker 11: and I couldn't rationalize or reconcile what was going on
• 15:53
  Speaker 11: in me. And God was like, You're gonna have to
• 15:55
  Speaker 11: become okay with things being good. And I had to
• 15:58
  Speaker 11: go and heal that twelve year old Michael to be
• 16:01
  Speaker 11: able to even raise the thirty five year old Michael
• 16:05
  Speaker 11: and raise his son and bro I went on a journey,
• 16:07
  Speaker 11: bro and man because I went on this healing journey,
• 16:11
  Speaker 11: because I spent the money. Everybody talking about investing property,
• 16:14
  Speaker 11: you're the only thing that is priceless.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: As always say, invest in your mental wealth.
• 16:18
  Speaker 11: I want you invest in yourself. You have to start
• 16:21
  Speaker 11: from someplacets. But that's why I went first, DJ and V.
• 16:24
  Speaker 11: This is why I wrote this book. This may not
• 16:27
  Speaker 11: be my most popular book, but it's my most valuable
• 16:29
  Speaker 11: book because if anybody actually reads this, they're gonna be like, Dang,
• 16:32
  Speaker 11: I can see myself and maybe I'll take the first step.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: All right, we got more with Pastor Mike Todd. When
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: we come back, don't move.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast Club.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, went back is the breakfast Club. And Pastor Mike
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Todd is here. His book Damage but Not Destroyed, From
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Trauma to Triumph is out right now, Charlamagne.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: With an untransferred to wounds.
• 16:56
  Speaker 11: The truth of the matter is every wound that you
• 16:59
  Speaker 11: get as the ability to transfer to somebody else in
• 17:03
  Speaker 11: your actions or in your non actions. And that's why
• 17:06
  Speaker 11: I said earlier, what's not transformed is transferred. You got
• 17:09
  Speaker 11: a lot of your mom and Daddy and you that
• 17:11
  Speaker 11: they didn't give you directly. They gave it to you
• 17:15
  Speaker 11: because you received it the way that you handle issue,
• 17:18
  Speaker 11: the way that you go through stuff. We got a
• 17:21
  Speaker 11: lot of stuff because they didn't handle it. I give
• 17:23
  Speaker 11: a prime example. I tell it in the book. I
• 17:25
  Speaker 11: had a pornography addiction. I mean jacked up, taking my money,
• 17:28
  Speaker 11: my mind, my focus, money. Oh bro, yeah, back in
• 17:33
  Speaker 11: the day, you know when Okay, come on now, don't
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: act like you did in three ninety nine.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Sometimes come on now.
• 17:39
  Speaker 11: And if you was buying magazines or if you're doing
• 17:41
  Speaker 11: any of it, come on, let's be honest. It was
• 17:43
  Speaker 11: robbing me, and the money was the least part of it. Well,
• 17:45
  Speaker 11: I'm going through this whole thing by myself. I'm suffering,
• 17:48
  Speaker 11: still trying to pray, still trying to love God, still
• 17:51
  Speaker 11: trying to And if somebody's like the pastor I tell
• 17:53
  Speaker 11: it every Sunday, don't even trip like because we out here,
• 17:56
  Speaker 11: every man is actually struggling with something. Okay, I'm out
• 18:00
  Speaker 11: here addicted, trying to do what I've been called to do.
• 18:04
  Speaker 11: After I actually start going through the process of healing
• 18:07
  Speaker 11: and making decisions and making disciplines and.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Being accountable and all this other stuff.
• 18:11
  Speaker 11: I find out my dad he was a drum major
• 18:14
  Speaker 11: for Gramlin State University, and they came to New York.
• 18:17
  Speaker 12: There was a street back in the day.
• 18:18
  Speaker 11: Now, this back back in the day where they had
• 18:21
  Speaker 11: peep shows down the whole street.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: That's forty second Street.
• 18:23
  Speaker 12: Okay, so he know.
• 18:24
  Speaker 11: The street, forty second Street, and he said, back in
• 18:28
  Speaker 11: the day, they got here on the bus and he said,
• 18:31
  Speaker 11: he got a pocket full of quarters, and you could
• 18:34
  Speaker 11: go and you could put the money in the machine
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: and then the curtain would open and you see naked women.
• 18:39
  Speaker 11: Back in the day, that was the equivalent of pornography,
• 18:43
  Speaker 11: he said. After I told him what I was going through,
• 18:46
  Speaker 11: he said, Mike, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I never told
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: you about it. I'm sorry I never dealt with it publicly.
• 18:51
  Speaker 11: I'm sorry that I did this, he said, because I
• 18:54
  Speaker 11: had five sons, and every single one of my brothers
• 18:58
  Speaker 11: and me dealt with the sexual addiction because what was
• 19:01
  Speaker 11: not transformed in him, what's transferred into us.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Do you get counseling from the other passes.
• 19:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely. People have been in the game a lot
• 19:09
  Speaker 12: longer than me.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: Man, we had an awesome meeting for probably about five
• 19:14
  Speaker 11: hours at a restaurant.
• 19:15
  Speaker 12: Tdj's. He's like the og of OG's.
• 19:19
  Speaker 11: So so he we met and it was like in
• 19:22
  Speaker 11: this secret building that was unmarked and we went up
• 19:26
  Speaker 11: and like you hit the floor and it's like a restaurant.
• 19:28
  Speaker 11: I'm like where am I was like me with the Godfather?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: You understand?
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, And I'm like I'm like what is going on?
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: And that man just begin to pour into me. I
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: love td Jake's as just somebody who talks even more
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: than preaching, if.
• 19:44
  Speaker 12: You ever get to just talk to him.
• 19:46
  Speaker 11: That mentorship, mentorship from Tim Ross, mentorship from Robert Morris,
• 19:50
  Speaker 11: mentorship from Steven Ferdick, mentorship from all Like it's invaluable
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: what you learn from people who've been damaged. It's invaluable
• 20:01
  Speaker 11: what you can learn from somebody who will share from
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: their damage.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And that's what all of those men did.
• 20:05
  Speaker 11: Like if I think about it right now, like I'm
• 20:07
  Speaker 11: thinking you call it mentoring, but all mentor mentoring it
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: really is, is people showing you where they messed up,
• 20:14
  Speaker 11: where they should have done it differently, sharing from their
• 20:16
  Speaker 11: damage and it helps push you.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Into your desks. Was just after the spit incident.
• 20:20
  Speaker 11: No, bro, that was before. Okay, because I'm the spit
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: hits the fan. That's what I call it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Fact break it down. People don't know. I know we
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: reported a long time ago.
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: First off, let me say this.
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: I am not a regular preacher, like when I say
• 20:32
  Speaker 11: a regular preacher, like, I was bored in church.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: And so when God.
• 20:36
  Speaker 11: Called me to preach, I was like, all right, I'm
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: gonna actually use everything that I have to help people
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: get it. And so I tell stories, I use examples,
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: and honestly I'm doing everything how Virgil Ablo said for
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: my seventeen year old self. Most seventeen year olds, they
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: don't care nothing about church. They trying to see the
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: girl with the booty and go eat and go play
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: with it. So I'm trying to like capture. So I've
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: always used examples and stuff like that. And so there's
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: this in the Bible where Jesus basically heals a man
• 21:04
  Speaker 11: by spitting on his hand and putting on his face.
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: And so this is an example I'd done three times before.
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: And this is what my blood, little brother. This is
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: not some random audience member or anything like this. Now,
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: this is a brother we fought blood, like, this is
• 21:18
  Speaker 11: my little brother, and he wanted to do the example
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: with me so I could show it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 12: And the whole idea was many people will not be
• 21:27
  Speaker 12: willing to go through a messy process to get their healing.
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: So the idea was this man was blind, he wasn't deaf.
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: So if Jesus is about to spit, he's standing there
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: in front of Jesus and he can hear, Like if
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: you hear somebody about the Huckalula, you're like, oh my god.
• 21:43
  Speaker 11: And I was trying to say, as disgusting as this is,
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: that man stayed there and he received something that nobody
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: else could give him. And as I was saying that,
• 21:51
  Speaker 11: I said, maybe you the counseling would be messy for you,
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: Maybe apologizing would be messy for you. Maybe downsizing your
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: house would be messy for you. Do You've put on
• 22:00
  Speaker 11: this whole thing about how God blessed you, But what
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: if on the other side of this mess was your healing?
• 22:06
  Speaker 11: And I did the example. It worked too well, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: by that night we was on DMZ, CNN, next Morning,
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: Breakfast Club, all that other stuff, and it was somebody
• 22:18
  Speaker 11: was saying to me the other day there was like.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Do you wish it wouldn't have happened?
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: I was like, honestly, no, it shocked me, but what
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: I had to deal with internally and what I had
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: to become okay with inside of me because of that situation,
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: it made me into a man.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: That I would have never met had it not happened.
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: It changed my whole view of who I was called
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: to reach and how much I needed anybody's applause damaged.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: What do you hope people get from this book? Man?
• 22:47
  Speaker 11: I believe that if you read this book and actually
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: do the work that's in here.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I tell people this all the time.
• 22:54
  Speaker 11: It may not have been your fault what happened to you,
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: but it is now your responsibility. It's time to do
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: the work. I'm just here to say I've had to
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: do the work in front of people, with one hundreds
• 23:04
  Speaker 11: of thousand people's watching me, judging me all this stuff.
• 23:07
  Speaker 11: You can do this work, no matter where you are,
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: how much money you have, what your family thinks about it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: You will become a different person that will be able
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: to actually be a blessing to other people. The healed
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: version of you is better than the version of you
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: that you have right now. I dedicated this book to
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: my great grandkids, like in the dedication. Now my oldest
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: daughter's ten, and I dedicated it because the Bible says
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: a good man leaves in inheritance for his children's children.
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: And yes, I want to leave them houses. Yes I
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: want to leave them investments, but I want to leave
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: them emotional health. I pray one day my grandson picks
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: this book up and is able to say, my Grandpapa
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: dealt with his stuff. And I know I'm struggling right
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: now because life be lifing and everybody's gonna go through it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: But God be God, But God be God, and therapy
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: be be therapy. And that's why the back of the
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: it's a double cover. The front is me smiling, that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: the triumph, but the back of it is me, my dad,
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: my four brothers, and my son. This is a picture
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: of all of us. It looks like me, but it's
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: all of us. Because your damage affects every person you
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: say you love. So if you want to do the work,
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: join me damage, but not to sureuse.
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: Father.
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: We just thank you for this opportunity to be here,
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: to be in this moment, to be with you, for
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: everybody listening and with my four brothers in the room.
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: I thank you, Father that something was said here that
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: sparks their faith to believe that you can help them
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: deal with their damage.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: God, we got.
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: Different relationships, different responsibilities, different pains, different hurts, but God,
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: you know them all. I thank you that by faith,
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: something is about to change on the inside of every
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: person under the sound of my voice bring back a moment,
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: a memory, a reason why they need to make this step.
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: And I thank you that no matter what has happened
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: to them, no matter how bad or how good, I
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: thank you that you can take our trauma and you
• 25:08
  Speaker 11: can turn it into triumph. You can take our pain
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: and you can turn it into platform. Father, I thank
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: you for all the people who are damage but not destroyed.
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: Blessed Him, is my prayer in Jesus name. We agree.
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  Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, ladies and gentlemen.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Pastor Mike Todd, we appreciate you, Brother, I appreciate y'all.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: If you're just joining us.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Big Mac one of our producers up here, you know
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: him from wild'n Out. He got pretty upset and that's
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: because Jess hilarious very own. Just Ilarius had a baby
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: shower and didn't invite him, and he's mentioned it several
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: times and he's pretty upset about it. He's even said
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that you guys shoot skits together, you guys do the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: eating videos with each other, and he was pretty heard
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: All of those things are things that it feels like
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: just Hilarius is forced to do because just gonna eat
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: regardless because she's pregnant, you know what I mean. So
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: I think Mac is using her as an excuse to
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: eat more. And the skid thing is all about showing stomachs.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: Oh so Jess is showing her stomach for nine months.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: After nine months, you're not gonna have a stomach. Mac
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: has had that stomach at least thirty at least thirty
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: how long he was an intern up here?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: How long ago?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: About least fifteen fifteen years ago.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: So I'm gonna get I'm gonna say he had that
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: stomach for thirty years. So whose stomach youre gonna Who're
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: gonna do that with? When I'm just going back.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: He's not gonna do it with me. He's not gonna talk.
• 26:28
  Speaker 14: He not even we not even want to be thinking
• 26:30
  Speaker 14: about doing him some way after I come in.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: So, jess, how come we didn't invite Mack just because.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: I don't y'all know I am not a good lie.
• 26:40
  Speaker 14: I know, I just know like it's just because.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You ain't think of it, that's.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: Really that's the reality of just because I knew what
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Jeff told me about the baby shower two months ago,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: and I knew I was gonna be out the country
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: and so I couldn't attend.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: So she didn't want back there.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: That's fine.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: And it's not even that she didn't not want Mac there.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: She she wasn't thinking about Mac.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Let us be for herself.
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: Maybe she didn't want back then, but that's what it
• 27:07
  Speaker 14: wasn't No, it's not that I didn't want to make that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: First of all, people love Mac. A lot of people
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: love Mac and they all know Mac in my family.
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: No Max here, but no, like what is wrong?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: It wasn't enough, fool and not even ibody.
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: Jim Bowhead is too Indian. You ain't com You wasn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: in Africa.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I was at a show.
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: I was out of town. I was in Columbia, South Carolina.
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: Somebody just called you was not in Columbia on the
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: fourth on Saturday, on the sas I was, I was
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: on it on the Saturday.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: That was this All right then cool?
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: All right, So it is what it is.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: But back to MAC.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: I will see when I get back.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Boom damn.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Julisa Yalla, good morning, Good morning, m B, good morning, dress.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Congratulations, thank you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Bab Jalsa. Do you have co workers like that?
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Yes, the multiple They think they should be invited to everything.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: And I made the mistake before and became really close
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: to my coworker and it didn't work out. I ended
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: up having am getting too little fist fight with one.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Did you win because this man, I'm daking.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I don't play the.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't ask you that, that's who. Did you win?
• 28:21
  Speaker 16: Yes?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: I did?
• 28:21
  Speaker 16: Yes?
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I did?
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, but yeah, you can't mix business with you.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: Know, personal life level.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So you got into a
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: fist fight with a stud you was dating on your job. Jesus, stop,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: tell the truth, tell the truth.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: No I did it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: No, I did it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I hear it in her voice. You don't want to Admittican
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: you're making.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: Girls.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's up, y'all?
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: What's up? Good morning?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: This says, your co worker is be having parties and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: nobody be inviting you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't be inviting me, like they'd be talking about, Oh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: we're not inviting house because basically I'm the new girl there.
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: But they be thinking like it bothers me.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I don't want to tell what you'll you'll old legs
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: forty and up.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Watch your mouth? How old are you?
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: I'm thirty?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Die you want to go? Because if you wouldn't go,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: if you didn't want to go, you wouldn't be mentioning it. You.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want to go.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I don't want to go.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: I like being a homebody.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: You lying you want to go hit the electric slide
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: with them old heads one time that you do.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to deal with her young kids. I'll
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: be doing the hits with the young kids.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Where are you from?
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I'm from Harlem?
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well that's.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'd be doing the little hits and stuff
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: My kids be laughing at me.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: Well, I hope that your coworkers continue not to invite you, because.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be having my own party and my kids.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: That's what mac gonna say. Now I'm gonna have my own.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I'm look pregnant.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Oh my eight hundred five five one o five one.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, Big Mac, one of our
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: producers up here, was very upset that he didn't get
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: invited to Jess Hilarious his birthday.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Party, birthday, birthday, baby shower.
• 30:19
  Speaker 14: It was actually Chris birthday, buddy, because it was Chris
• 30:21
  Speaker 14: birthday too.
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris cancer.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: July said, go ahead, Chris, but you didn't even mention
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that you invited other people up here, but just not him.
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: What is you talking about, like, y'all.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Five a five one o five one?
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Do you have a coworker that invites everybody but you
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to your party?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Is it just you? Let's talk about it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast you changed it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Won everybody's Jess hilarious, Charla mean the guy we are
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: You got a special guest in the buildings.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Indeed, what time tribute? Welcome bro?
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: I mean, what's up?
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: How you congratulations?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: They just won a Grammy twenty twenty four Grammy for
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that gospel album.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: So congratulating, Oh thank you.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, three in total. Man, I'm so hype about that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and excited.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Uh, it wasn't needed, but it's it's appreciated.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Do you pray for stuff like that?
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: Nah?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I used to. Okay, Okay, I used to, but I
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: had to get my you know, the reason why I
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: do what I do. I had to get that in order.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I had to you know, yeah, intention exactly. Last year
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I was nominated for two Grammys, and I just knew
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I was gonna walk away with at least one. And
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: when I walked away with none, it was like a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: soul check for me, Like, all right, well, why do
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you do what you do?
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: Bro?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You gotta just just kind of reevaluate all of that stuff.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So I kind of like stopped needing and or stopped
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: wanting this so bad and stopped so ambitiously going for it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Just stick to it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: The reason why I do what I do, have fun
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: doing it, Bless the people, show love, give them Christ.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: And uh, this year, when I walked away with it, Yo,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: we literally sat like in the back because the Gospels
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: they don't present the Gospel on the on the Grammy.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: We got the pre award they could do. It was
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like nine o'clock in the morning.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I had to wake up all early, and we went
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to the pre show and it's open seating there, so
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you can see anywhere you want. So my manager like, Yo,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: come on, let's let's go to the front.
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: Bro.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, man, I'm just gonna sit back here.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: We're gonna take an l I don't like that long
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: walk of shame. It's too far, so let's just stay
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: close to the exit. So we was in the back
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: chill and I got it all on video and they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: called everybody's name. Of course when they call my name,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, because I was really content. I had
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to learn really just to be content, because you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: being overly ambitious just robs you of gratitude. Then you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: just get on and feel like going down that rabbit hole.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So you have to take that long walk up to
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the stage that I was running like, oh my goodness,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I'm gonna say on the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: way because I literally didn't respect to win, but you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I was gonna be there to show them how to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: be a good, sore loser in Christ.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you what I'm saying with being
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: a gospel singer, do you feel like it's a lot
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: of pressure on you where it's almost like people look
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: at your life differently right, Like it's almost like they
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: want you to be perfect.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Do you have a hard time dealing with that? I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: dealt with that before I became a guy for artists.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So speaking of growing up in this small church, my
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: grandmother was the pastor. First, my dad was on the organ.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I'm watching him every Sunday, like, oh my god, this
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: guy is amazing. I start playing. Then he became the pastor.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: So I got that pressure as a PK, the perfection,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: all of that, all of that. I got all of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that pressures as a young kid, like twelve nine when
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I was. Since I was, since I've been born, spotlight
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: has been on.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Me to be the poster child for what Christ is.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo. The worst.
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: Pressure though, because of the pressures.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Damn too much hand comes leads to rebellion. Man, you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? That legalism and that religious structure.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It leads to like, Yo, I'm not cut out for this.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't sign up for this, y'all sign up for
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: this and the expectation is too much for me, yo,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So I just rebell People go completely opposite of the
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: ways that their parents bring them up when you bring
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: them up too strict. I came up the same way.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I had the pressure of perfection and I tried to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: live up to it until my parents got a divorce.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, whoa.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: In my day that was like, you know, it's normal
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: now every day it happens every day. Back then, it
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: was like a culture shouting for me. It shattered my
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: whole world.
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: I was like, bump the church. Then, what I'm doing there?
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Why am I being fable to God in it?
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: Man? My dad?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I'm out, you know what I'm saying. That's when I
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: went to all the clubs did all that stuff. I
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: didn't dance, though, I just played at all the clubs.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I still didn't drained and smoked.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I just went and played the keyboard at all the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: club for like music, Soul Child, Jill Scott, everybody in
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia area, the roots and all that stuff. So
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I'm in there playing hymns to the beasts. They don't
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: even know what I'm doing. But I kind of had
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: my little rebellious moment during that time, just to find
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: out who I am outside of y'all expectations. Man, I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: said to who y'all saying God is to me, Let
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: me find them for myself, let me figure out who
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I am for myself. And it's been the most liberating thing.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: And I've been walking in that sense of those triggers
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: resurface in your marriage when you separated, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Well me and my wife separated. It was it was.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: It was bad, yo, it was.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: It was very very bad for.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Me because I didn't think my whole thing. When my
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: father messed up with my dad, I'm like, I ain't
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: never gonna be like him.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I'm never gonna do that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, So I went the pride way. So
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: my heart just really was like, you know what I mean,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I got more exposure than he ever got. I got
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: more note rioting than he ever got. And I'm still
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna do what he did. I'm still letting that
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: pride comes before a fall. And I fell hard and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I moved to La. My wife was in Jersey. We
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just separated. I didn't think we would ever, you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: get back together again. I was just out there working
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: on me.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: She was out there.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: She was out there working on her, not really trying
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to get the marriage back together, and I think when
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: you try to do that too soon, sometimes you you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: damage you know, you damage it because you just your
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: point is just to try to get them get back together,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: but not work on you because you still got stuff
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you got to work. I still have stuff I had
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to work on. I still had weaknesses I had to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: work on. And so I'm out there working on me.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: She's working on her. I'm praying, she's praying that godd
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of just brought our hearts back together. But through that
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: whole time, I realized my mortality, I realized my humanism,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I realized my weaknesses. I realized who I was for real,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Like this religious perspective. I became that Like like now
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a pastor, right, But I don't say I'm a pastor.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a child of God with an assignment.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. I'm a child of God
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: who got something to say to a certain group of people.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I don't become my assignment. You understand what I'm saying.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: But that's the world today. If I were to meet
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you in the street, the first thing I'll say is
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: what do you do?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Not who are you?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, and I think we lose
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: who we are and what we do. And that's what
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I did. I got lost in all of that, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I forgot who I was.
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: I think you and your whole situation is just a
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: testament to the glory of God. You, you and your
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: wife are together.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Now, right.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's right here, right behind me.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she survived the car into a lot.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Ye, a whole a whole, a whole lot. It seemed
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: like a series of unfortunate events, you know what I'm saying.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And her life, I mean, it's just it just it
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: just starts from I was gonna say it starts from birth.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Everybody's life starts from birth.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: But with the with growing up with parents like I had,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and she was basically fatherless for a long period of time,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you grow up with a whole lot of unmet needs, you.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: Know what I mean.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You have needs as a child that you should have
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: met that you don't have met. Security, protection, encouragement, validation,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: all of these things.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: We we affection.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: We have to grow up without that, right, So now
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: we got to make the choice of either like living
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: without it or killing the desire period. So now we
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: commit what we call my man, Tim Fletcher calls sole suicide.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So you commit sole suicide because as a child of
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: three year old, I need affection. I don't know I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: need it, but naturally I need it. And if I
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: don't get it, I just killed.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: A desire for it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: So now I'm in a relationship and I don't know
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: how to be affectionate you understand what I'm saying. Or
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I got kids and I don't know how to show
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that because I've been killed that. So now we're trying
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to like restore those things and trying to do it
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: in the context of marriage. I married her at eighteen.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I was twenty one, So that's a that's a kid.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Those are kids When I look at them ages now,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it was a kid, that little really
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: little kid.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: We together? Huh. How long y'all been together?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Twenty eight now, yeah, that's twenty eight years.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife twenty six over being his wife thirty.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Oh congrass bro We got more with tid tribute when
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: we come back, don't move. It's the breakfast Club.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Good morning more.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody, j D Jesse, Larry Schela, me and the guy.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Tied tribute. Now, it seems like for a while, maybe
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the last ten years, it seems like being a pastor
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: was cool, right, So it was like like everybody wanted
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: to be a rapper, everybody wanted to be a podcast host,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: list like a lot of people wanted to be a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: pastor for the wrong reasons.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about that? You missed that
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: air the past error?
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I remember the pastor.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You know, man, we're building them huge churches. Everybody was.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I think the pastor phenomenon came from, oh, man, getting money.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: There's a bunch of different things. You can speak to
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: them more, but I think getting money.
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: In the church and how you look and how you're
• 39:12
  Speaker 14: praised and you forget that he's supposed to be praised,
• 39:15
  Speaker 14: but I praise you and all that type of stuff.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: So yeah, I see a lot of Instagram pass out there.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: But you know, it is killed. You killed that whole thing.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of pastors were not called the pastor.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: They just you know, study, you go to school and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: then you just become a pastor, like you become a
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: manager at you know, publics or something like that, and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: that's that's unfortunate for a lot of people who invest
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: their you know, money, time, attention, and their soul into
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: people who they believe are literally called from God. I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: don't believe a lot of pastors are. I think. I
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: think it's a system. Now on God, It's a system.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Everything is a system, and systems work with or without God.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: So I think the institution of church is whack. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: think how church is ran is whack. I think the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: religious system and structure is whack. I don't subscribe to it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Even though I grew up in it, I benefited from it,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: but I learned that God is not the church. And
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: once I realized whoa God?
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Ain't church for me? You know what I mean.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I ain't from the streets. I'm from the church.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: So that was a huge thing as well. It's in
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: the Bible to say you can't even find God in
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: the man made temple. Why don't we read that? Though?
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: How old did you hear that sermon?
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: No?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: You hear people. Pastors make the people about the church.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: We got the church name we church and the church
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and the bumper stick of the church. The church should
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: be about the people. The church should be about the people.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But the church makes the people about the church. So
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: all churches now are a movement, but they're not about
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the people. They're not about serving and loving the people.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: So I just kind of pulled that we online right now,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: we're not even in the building, a physical building or
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: nothing like that. So Live Church, shout out to Live Church.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I love y'all so much. But let me ask you
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: a question.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Right, So, growing up in Queens, I went to Catholic school.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Right his own school is the worst. So my parents
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: was making me go to Capital School. I wasn't going
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: to Andrew Jackson. But I noticed in Catholic school as
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: a kid, Catholic school thirty thirty minutes, maybe thirty five,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: you are baut of the it's I mean, den gone,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I'm back home. Baptist Church is three hours, you know
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: So we don't more to say. But it's the point.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: As a kid, you know, you feel like I get
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: everything I need in this thirty minutes. I don't need
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: this in three and a half hours. I always wonder like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: why is the church so long? Because you know, you
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: got announcements, then you get passed it. You're gonna pass
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: it around twice then Since then, so and so got
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: out to talk about.
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: And if you don't give enough on the first off,
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: we almost reach our goal.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Almost they double back, you know what I mean.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: And I think that's part of it why.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: It's so long. Yeah, I think churches have changed since then.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think churches is three hours like that anymore.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I've seen church trustes like ninety minutes. You know what
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. They try to be more mindful of that,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: and the more you know, current churches and stuff like
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that try to they try to cut that down a
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: little bit. But I think the reason is is people
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: just have a lot of expression. Man, they got a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: lot of They got a lot to say, They got
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: a lot to get out. You understand what I'm saying.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I hated the law churches. I grew up Pentecostal, So
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Pentecostal church. What three hours? That's it? We're just getting right, yo.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Three When you said three hours, like what, man, we
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: just getting started. We had nothing else to do. We
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: ain't had no social media. Sundays was for God, so
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: we was gonna stay all Sunday.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: So after the five back, after the five hour service,
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: you service, come on what.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: You better stay for that second?
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: We got people coming. I hated that, but I'm so
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: glad it was like that for me as a young
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. I'm so glad it was
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: like that for me because it just kept me from
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a whole lot.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Is it true that you worked on Justin Tim Blake's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: crimea River?
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I worked on I was We was in the
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Root Studio again, growing up in the Philly Camden, Philly area.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: We did our first album at the at the Root Studio.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Crazy how we got signed to. Vivian Green is like
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: an R and B soul artist, and she was doing
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a showcase for Tommy Mottola and Donnie Ironer and the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: mat Sony and she said, Tie, you know, I was
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: like her cousin at the time. We were like real close, Tie,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I want you to m d my showcase. I said,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: all right, Bet, I got a little couple of people
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: from the choir, a couple of people from the band.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: We just put together a little show for viv So,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: speaking of energy and all that, we in there with
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Tommy Mattola and Donnie iron and all these people at
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Columbia and I'm just like young, you know, I'm just playing.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like this all the time. If I'm playing, everything
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: is energetic. So they like, we love Vivian Green, we're
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: gonna sign her to Columbia, and we're gonna sign this
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: guy right here.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Who's that.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: And it was like, oh, no, no, no, no, that's
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a gospel guy. You know, he does
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: choir and stuff like that. We're signing Vivian and we're
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: signing the gospel guy.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I was like, what.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Within ninety days, we had a contract at our crib
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: from Columbia Records. No demo, no black and white, no
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: no profile pickure, no no nothing, and we got signed
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: to Columbia with the you know, y'all were separated. Nah,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: she got her deal.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I got my deal.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: So my first album came out under Columbia Records called Life.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Because of that that moment right there, I'm like, well,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: God is really real, you know what I mean. I mean,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you could say being in the right place at the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: right time, but I believe in the favor of God.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And so we're doing our album in the Root studio.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: James Poyser shout out. James Poyser was a producer on that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: He's with the Roots. Now youre seeing on Jimmy Fallon
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: every night in the Root studio, they had the plant
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: based you know stuff going on every single day. Gee,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: he was in there. We was in there getting contact,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: you'll try to sing the praises of the Lord and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: just being in that environment. Then the Roots is like, oh,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: you know, why don't you do this such a stuffs
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: coming to the studio, such as hubs coming to the studio,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: such and such. We just became the choir for like
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: everybody who came. So we're on Jessica Simpson's Christmas album
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and we're on uh so many albums as background singers.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: So Timberland came through and we just caught.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Him ve Timbland.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: We were just in there just vibing. Tim just put
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a beat on it. We were just in there playing.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I love working with Tim.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Tim.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: We could ever do that again, BROI yeah, please, let's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: look that up.
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: So we was in there vibing the cry. Uh criedmea river.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: He said, I got this humble justice. So I'm in
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: there like, Okay, dudent, dude, dud dude. So that's me
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: playing that literally on the World It Show. That's literally
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: literally me. And then the backgrounds on there, and me
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: and my girl Marshall from Flower Tree did the background. Yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Ain't she amazing? Yo? Shout out Marshall.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I love you girl.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: We did the backgrounds to that, and so just when
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: it came out and we listening to it and it's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: everywhere since seventy eleven and said, why, were like, oh my,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that's us, that's us. Shut up, boy, that'll be twenty dollars.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm like, waits us, give
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: me a little sprite.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Must have been crazy.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Did you get paid for it the right way?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Damn, I got two thousand dollars for the past.
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: Man, you want to do the past?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: I know you cried you a River, that's all you
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: got that love that Murphy two thousand dollars for griding
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: a river.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got two thousand dollars for that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: But you played it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I played it with that's this song.
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: That's what everybody knows. That's when what you hear, when.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: That's what you look for before anybody else.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: They don't take care of the pastor.
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: Tell me called it was?
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: It was? It was?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: It was, yeah, But you know I didn't know the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: business at the time, and I was so hyped to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: get two thousand dollars.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: I ain't know what to do.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Y'all think I treated everybody to a fry at McDonald's. Everybody,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. So I was just so hyped,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: But I didn't know the business then. So I don't
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: got no hard feelings. Yeah, yeah, you go check it
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: out all I.
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: W won't move.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: We got more with Tie Trivia when we come back,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Gospel artists.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club in the morning.
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: Morning.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Everybody interviewing Jess hilarious, Sela mean the guy we are.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club was to get me with gospel artists.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Tie Trivia.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Now, you just got off tour, right.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I did All Things New tour in the spring, and
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: then I did the Reunion tour in the fall winter.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: It was it was an amazing, dude that with Kirk
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and Clark sisters, Israel, David and Tambla. Man, that was
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: incredible my first arena tour. Never did that before, so
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like to hear the songs with all them people.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: It was just it was, it was surreal. So we're
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: doing it again this year. I'm going out May June
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: on the only one night though. Tour only one night though.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: That's my new single that's out, only one night though,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and the tour is going May June. I'm telling y'all,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I have a second win of some sort. I don't
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: have a second, third, or fourth, whatever, but I have this,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: this momentum behind me right now, and I am so
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: excited to get out there and do this music. I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: got new music coming, book coming, podcasts, all this stuff
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: is coming, you know, off the hinges of the Grammy.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: And it's just a good season for me right now. Yes,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I want everybody to come. What He's great.
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: For me growing up is wow to your music. You
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: you didn't make it?
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: You like you?
• 47:56
  Speaker 14: You and Kirk Franklin was the first two men that
• 47:59
  Speaker 14: did not make listen in the gospel boring right, Franklin's
• 48:04
  Speaker 14: That's what I love about you?
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Or the song you remember the way I can't even then?
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: You going to the.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I do you think people have time?
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Is about but do you think people have a problem
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: with God?
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: No?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: No, most people.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my whole life has been God fearing. But see,
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: I think that you have to show improve that through actions,
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I think it's one thing
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: to say, Oh, I believe in God, I love God,
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: but do you really try to at least scribe to
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: move the way God would want you to move? Okay,
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: I think that's the difficult Okay.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: So it's not the belief, it's the behavior, yes, I think.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's the behavior of the messenger.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: What you mean.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Somebody will say I have an assignment, right, like you said,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I have an assignment. And maybe your assignment is to
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: help just in her situation and her problem, and maybe
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: you do, but then you as a person, it's not
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: coming from the perspective of somebody giving the assignment.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: But that's what a little bit that's what makes me
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: hard to see because you're giving the excitement, but you're
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: not living, right.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: It's like, are you really giving it? Nobody around Jesus
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: was living.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: That's all about to say, like what's your teacher living algebra? Like,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Can somebody get can somebody
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: give you information that will help you?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: That's still flawed, right, But sometimes it's like it's that
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: information true. If you're out there selling crack every night,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: giving crack tiw you you might be feelty and saving me,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: but then you're killing a hundred others. It's like, is
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: this hard coming from God? Or is that coming from
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: a negative an evil, the devil?
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of got you hard to trust and
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: operate and trust it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: But that's acerment exactly.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: So you need the spirit as well, you know what
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: That's what I think.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So when I say how you feel about God? I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: was going to ask how you feel about all of that?
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: You said you two growing for the wholy but because
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I think they be playing. Yeah, I know what you're saying,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: and some people, some people do they get most most.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I got one last question because you just made me
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: think of something.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: Let's do this conversation me and just had when they
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: had the New Year's Eve thing and they did the
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: swag surf in the church.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you' all for having me.
• 50:16
  Speaker 14: Man very much clowned out, tell him what you're thought,
• 50:20
  Speaker 14: Tell the pants what you're throwing up here.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was.
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: Anything wrong with it because my whole thing was they
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: doing it outside the church anyway, you know what I mean.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: So if you're having a and it wasn't like it
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: was a regular church service.
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: It was new.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah, what did you think?
• 50:37
  Speaker 14: I thought that a lot of clowns were very much
• 50:39
  Speaker 14: sorry about that, but you said all of them were
• 50:41
  Speaker 14: everybody was clowns because that was the explicit version. Band
• 50:45
  Speaker 14: played just like I sold Charlemagne. I'm like, no, I
• 50:46
  Speaker 14: didn't grow up like that in church. Like it's just
• 50:48
  Speaker 14: certain things you don't play with. You can swag and
• 50:51
  Speaker 14: surf one day. Even if he disagreed, o't.
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I still think that it was clowned out.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and that the lyrics was like, yeah,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I could believe I was hearing that all day.
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I got put on my Yes, girl got a
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: bad and a friend.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Right, they didn't.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: It's an explicit I think that was a mistaken production
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't think that was intentional.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: I think the church.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I'm the wildest, craziest, I'm with everything, I swaged whatever.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I still think that the church should have something a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: sacred like.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: What people where they are they say say me, people
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: will they don't.
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: Take that and they run with that though I'm not
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: with that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: Nobody.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: If Jesus met somebody where they were, he literally went
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to them. Like when they come to church, they're meeting you.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Where you are is what you're saying?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: You say, I'm saying they should be across the street
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: from the trip club something when they come out, not inside.
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: Should be a club.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I have been to a strip club.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: I have?
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have, I have been to club.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was a what birthday was it?
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I'm forty eight now, I just wanted it was one
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: of them n years when I was like, forget the church,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm going there.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I did not enjoy.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I went one time in my entirely to pray over
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the girls. I didn't pray over them, No, I didn't.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't pray. I prayed over myself more than anything.
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like I did not.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Huh why did you like it?
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: Oh?
• 52:17
  Speaker 15: Man?
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: For real?
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: With your wife here is never mind? No?
• 52:20
  Speaker 11: No, no, no, no no.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: How did you go to I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I have never talked about this in my life, I said,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: people who know before I have. I didn't enjoy the performers.
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: What state was it?
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Florida? Should have went to Atlanta? No, Florida, you mean Florida? Crazy?
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: What would do especially in Miami.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy the performers,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: and I was like, this is why I'll be longer.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, booby Trap wasn't went back there and you love
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: It's okay. Professionally, I think I'm God.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I think God was like, you got it out.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: You're good.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: The little private moment that you straight. So this is
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: what you wanted, did you? I'm like, man, it's this
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: is not five there that night.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: God knew what he was doing.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I've never I've never ever designed to go back.
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: Ever.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: It was horrible, bro, it was horrible.
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: Man.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Can you pray for the stupid show? First of all,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: thank y'all for being like culture leaders.
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I appreciate what y'all do for for for the culture.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: It's amazing what y'all do here. Thanks for keeping it positive.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: And you crazy. You're all crazy, but that's that's that's
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: who we are, and yeah, we're not ashamed of who
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: we are. Let's pray for a minute, Okay, Father God,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I thank you for this opportunity to just to pray
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: over these blessed people and in this show. Pray now
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: God that you just continue to be our guide and
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: our lead. There are so many needs just in this room,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and so many needs for people that are listening. We
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: can't solve every need. We don't know every need. But
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you promised to supply every need. So I pray from
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: emotions to finances, to mental health, to physical health to
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: relational security. I pray that you just supply every need.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Once we're in scarcity and we need, we get desperate
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and we do things that's not even in our character.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: So may we never be insecure, and may we never
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: lack anything. And when we never fear perfect love, cast
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: out all fear. Fill us with your perfect love today,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: and we won't fear anything. We won't fear the enemy,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: we won't fear the way of the world. We won't
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: fear anything because we are.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Loved by you.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Let everybody know for a maturity that they are loved,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: crazy and all but vaccilating in all not whatever state
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: we're in, it does not disqualify us from your everlasting love.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So embrace us with that today. In the name of Jesus,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Bless everyone, Blessed Charlamagne, bless Envy, blessed.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Jes Bless this show. God.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Let it be a beacon of light and a beacon
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: of hope to everyone who listens. Let me put a
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: smile on people's face, put joy in their heart and
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: happiness in their day. I thank you for the opportunity
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: to pray over this, and I pray in Jesus' name
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: that it prospers in jesus name.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Amen, Hey, I love y'all man so much.
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: Man a democrat. So being junky of the day is
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: a little bit of a mixed question.
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: So like a don't donky of the day, bitch you Now.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: I've been called a lot of my twenty three years.
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: That donkey of the day is a new wife.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: Donkey today can go into a thirty nine year old
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: man from Saint Paul named Kyle Bandwerk.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna tell you something. Times is hard out here. Okay.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: There's a very wide gap between the haves and the
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: have not.
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: That's why all these politicians need to remember these wise
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: full words from James Carr Bill, and those words are
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: it's the economy stupid, that's it, nothing more than nothing less.
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: People want to know how you're gonna put more money
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: in their pocket, and people want to know how you're
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: gonna keep them safe.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: It's that simple.
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: If you're talking about how I can say buddy, If
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: you're talking about how you can make my bills lower,
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: if you're talking about me being able to afford a
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: nice vacation every now and then, you are talking my language.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: And you know another thing money can buy that. We
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: don't talk about enough transportation. Okay.
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: People want to be able to afford the dependable set
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: of wheels. I'm not talking about no Bentley Phanom Range Rover.
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: No.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: We not chasing luxury cars.
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: We're sticking to the non luxury cars that we used
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: to to forge, the Honda's, the Nissans, the Keys. Folks
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: just want a reliable set of wheels to get them
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: from A to B. Okay, we take that for granted.
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: In our society. There is someone out there listening to
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: me right now who can't afford a car. They waiting
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: for public transportation right now, waiting for somebody to get
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: him a ride.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: They watching people drive by, dreaming of one day owning
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: that twenty thirteen Toyota Avalon. You take it for granted, okay.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: And this is how we get the Kyle vanworth. See,
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: there was a woman who got pulled over in Saint Paul,
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: and the officer thought she needed a sobriety test. So
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: was the officer was giving a woman a sobriety test.
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: There was a man named Kyle, and Kyle was sitting
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: there at a nearby bus stop, minding his business daydreaming
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: of the day he don't have to ride public transportation anymore,
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: praying for the blessing of a Nissan Ultima. Okay, he
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: just want him a nice little premium call. And he
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: sees this woman getting a sobriety test as he's sitting
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: at the bus stop. He starts thinking himself, look at
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: this woman, possibly drunken driving, mismanaging the blessing of a cause.
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: And then a voice told Kyle, another person's mismanagement of
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: a blessing is an opportunity to show God what you
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: would do if you had said blessing. And then this happened.
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: Let's go to NBC eleven for the report.
• 57:38
  Speaker 17: Police, as part of the state wide towards Zero Death's
• 57:41
  Speaker 17: enforcement focused on arresting and pair of drivers. A Saint
• 57:44
  Speaker 17: Paul police officer pull over a woman he says was
• 57:46
  Speaker 17: speeding driving a Lincoln Navigator at about six pm Sunday,
• 57:49
  Speaker 17: and according to a criminal complaint, when the officer began
• 57:52
  Speaker 17: field sobriety testing, a completely unrelated man who was sitting
• 57:56
  Speaker 17: on a nearby bus stop bench got into the driver's
• 57:59
  Speaker 17: seat of the World Woman's car. Police say the man
• 58:01
  Speaker 17: was thirty nine year old Kyle Van Wirt, who has
• 58:03
  Speaker 17: a long history of minor crimes involving drugs and theft.
• 58:07
  Speaker 17: Before the officer could stop him, court papers say Van
• 58:10
  Speaker 17: Wert sped away in the woman's.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Suv after the thief drove away in the Lincoln Navigator.
• 58:14
  Speaker 13: The woman told police her iPhone and other electronics were
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: still inside, so using the iPhone's find.
• 58:20
  Speaker 17: Me app the woman was able to help police track
• 58:23
  Speaker 17: it to Apple.
• 58:24
  Speaker 13: Valley, where they found the iPhone apparently toss out the
• 58:27
  Speaker 13: window by the thief.
• 58:29
  Speaker 17: But little did he know that the woman still had
• 58:31
  Speaker 17: an Apple AirTag dangling from the keychain. Oh, they found
• 58:34
  Speaker 17: the suv, chased it, and finally arrested Van.
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: Work What part of grand theft auto mission is this.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: Kyle was sitting at the bus stop waiting for somebody
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: to be drunk, be too drunk to notice their cause missing, okay,
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: and he jumped right in and stole it. That's not
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: even criminal behavior. That's just opportunistic stupidity. Okay, Kyle, even
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: though I'm giving you the credit you deserve for being stupid,
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: I see your vision, Okay, I can understand what she
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: did da the bus stop, this woman getting a sobriety test.
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: In your mind.
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: In your mind, you was like, if I had the
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: blessing of a car, I would never drive drunk. But
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: you got the weight on the Lord, Kyle, you got
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: the weight on Jesus. Have patience and wait for the
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: things you want most. Don't chase it, don't run after it. Please,
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: don't steal it. If God wants you to have it,
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: he will give it to you. Amen, you can't take it.
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: And that's what Kyle did. And you heard in the
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: news report he didn't get away simply because the young
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: woman had an Apple AirTag inside her vehicle. Not to mention,
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: everything is a tracking device nowadays. You heard the news report.
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: The woman left her phone and other electronics in the car.
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: He threw it out the window, but she still had
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: the Apple air tag on her keychain. Also, I need
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: to say, the woman did not get a DWI. Saint Paul.
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: Police said she was not over the legal limit. But
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: guess who was Kyle? Damn, Kyle was high and on drugs.
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: Police just waiting on his blood test to come back.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: All right, and as you.
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: Heard in the news report, he has a history of
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: drugs and theft. Wouldn't supp okay, wouldn't surprise me at all.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 11: If you steal a card in the middle of a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 11: sobriety test while the police are right there, then it's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: safe to say it's probably you who needed the sobriety test.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Please give Kyle band work to sweet Sounds of the Hamiltons.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 9: You are donkey, You are the doggy.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: He aimed a little too high too. Yeah, you don't
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: do that with the Lincoln Navigator. Yes, it's the premium vehicles.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Stay with the premium vehicles.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: Ultimate Nissan, Yeah, Nissan, Ultimate, Maxima, Cayota Camri, you know Avalon,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: like say, right in that range.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Nope, I don't know what racy is. I really don't know.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 16: Can we guess it and just google it?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know? Can we go if you can
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: play party Hooper?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: No, I really have no idea. With richist.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: Oh, I'm lying I do what I'm talking about. Okay,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: let's play a game. And do we really need to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: play a game?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: You feel like it's a shooting?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: I mean, all right, I.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: Guess his last name is van Work guys, Kyle van Ward,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: so he white?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, you think the game you're taking black at first?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Ye tak a little black first?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: I was like I would taking a little black at first? Two?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Why where the story went? Why swear the story? Tell
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: me more? Tell us why identify as a cat right now?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: I'm just asked me a question. That Nope, all right,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: off the red nose? Whoever saw him? You can say.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody's j n V Jess Hilariy Chlamine
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: special guest in the building. Come on now we have
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Sarah Jake Roberts.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 9: Welcome.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 16: Thank you.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 16: I feel good. I'm a little tired, but I'm glad
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 16: to be here.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: Okay, with the new book, power Moves, ignite your confidence
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: and become a force.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Where did the inspiration for the book come from?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 16: It really started about five years ago.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 10: Whenever I had finished speaking, people would always tell me
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 10: like that was so powerful. You're so powerful, but I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: didn't really feel powerful, like I'd be in the fight
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: of my life up there, and I started just asking God, like,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 10: what does it mean to truly be powerful? And I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: feel like God just revealed to me that it has
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: so much to do with obedience and authenticity, but not
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 10: only that, that power is a flow and so what
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: makes me powerful when I'm preaching is different than what
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: makes me powerful as a mother. So I started digging
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: into the fluidity of power and this notion that power
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: moves and embracing that from season to season really started
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: resonating with me.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I do have a question. This is gonna sound stupid,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: but I just want people to understand. You know where
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: you came from and how you got into faith. I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: know you were here last time. So for people that
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: don't know that, they automatically assume that your dad was
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: in it into religion, that's what got you into it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: But you had a different start with you. So let's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit first.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: How did you start and how did you get to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: where you're at now and the fact that you had
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: your first child at fourteen, and let's let's break that.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: All down and he's in the studio.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: Don't give him that much gas. That's a child over there.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 10: So my dad has been in ministry in my whole
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 10: life and growing up when I was growing up in church,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 10: like we were at church every single day of the week,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: and you either found this spot, you were in the choir,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: you were dancing, you were doing something, or you.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 16: Were like me and you were sitting in the corner somewhere.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 10: And I can remember my siblings telling me, like, you're
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: gonna go to hell, like you can't shout on me,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 10: you can't clap, like you gonna go to hell. And
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: I was like, you might be right, because what I'm
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 10: listening to on the radio likes resonating with me. It
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 10: doesn't align with what's being preached. And so I never
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 10: really felt like I had a sense of belonging within faith.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: And then when my father's ministry kind of took off,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 10: I didn't know where I fit within the dynamic of
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: our family at all, and so I tried to find
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: myself at thirteen year old, trying to find herself is
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: gonna be open to anything, and so I got pregnant
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: at thirteen. I had my son at fourteen, which just
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 10: further confirmed to me, like you not one of the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 10: good girls. And so I spent probably ten years of
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: my life just being like, all right, faith isn't for me, guys,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: not for me. I'm gonna figure out what's happening outside.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: And I got to this space after this traumatic experience
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: in my first marriage where I almost got arrested and
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: I was defending the right to keep my kids, and
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: I was like, I have tried literally everything, I might
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: as well just try faith. And I wasn't trying to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 10: build a platform. I was trying to build myself. And
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: I started blogging about all of my experience. And it
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: turns out that there were like other women who felt
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 10: maybe forgotten by church, but like because they didn't.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Do you feel that way, like, especially because your dad
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: was in ministry, did you feel like his church forgot
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: about you, especially that being your dad.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: And it's hard, like knowing what I know now, it's
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: hard to say because I felt so much shame from
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: having a teen pregnancy that I'm sure that there were
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: people who were like still loving on me, but I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: couldn't cut through the idea of like during purity culture,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: the height of purity culture, you didn't got pregnant like this.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: It just doesn't align. And I don't know, because even
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: my father is surprised that my life has turned in
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 10: this direction. So I'm not sure if anyone thought that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: I was gonna be the girl talking about Jesus. But
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 10: I tried it for myself and I started sharing it
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 10: with like these other misfits, and it turns out there
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: were a lot of us, like back row churchgoers who
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: were there because we had to be but didn't fit in.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: And I was able to give them a voice and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 10: a language through trying to find my own voice in language,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 10: and it's resonated with them.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: What level of ratchet were you on a scale?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 16: It like, well, well, at the end of the day,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 16: the day's got to end.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: I don't even know how to answer that question. But
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: I mean I was not outside, like I was not
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: trying to be the good girl at all. Like I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: embraced this idea of like you can just do your
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: own thing and try anything. So I mean I did
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: quite a few things.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: It's interesting to hear you say the bishop was surprised
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: to see how things turned out, because I'm sure him
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: and you know, the first lady was praying over you
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: and asking God to turn you around, would makes sense, yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: But I mean I have always been very strong willed.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 10: I've always been my own person, and so I think
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: that they were praying. But just like we praying, we like,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: I don't know if you want to answer this prayer,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 10: we'll see how it happens. I don't think that they
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 10: were for sure knowing that things were absolutely going to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 10: turn around. Even if they did turn around, I don't
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 10: think anyone anticipates like, oh, she's going to be a ministry,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 10: because that's not necessarily a turn.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 16: Around, like maybe she'll figure out who God is.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 10: But this fact that she's also going to be a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 10: ministry in helping others, that was a wild card nobody
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: saw coming.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I feel sometimes when especially when people play with the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: church right, and I'll tell you why I say play
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: with the church, they come off like a very church
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: holier than that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: So when they speak a lot of people actually believe
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: it and listen because they feel like they study, they
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: go through it, they read the Bible, et cetera, et cetera,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But also you realize that person is not
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: a good person. So where do you cross the lines
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: of somebody taking on an assignment doing something positive. I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: think you spoke about it earlier, somebody giving a message
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: opposed to who they are as a person, Like can
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: somebody give a message and be an fed up person?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 16: Yeah?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 10: I mean a broken clock. It's right twice to day,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: you know what I mean. You don't even have to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 10: be a Christian to say something that could be profound
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: and deep. But that doesn't change the fact that you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: have an opportunity to be more fully integrated in your character.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: But I think that the message is that resonate the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: most are from people who are literally walking it out,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 10: living it out, and so it does discredit the message
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: sometimes when you're telling me something that you don't live by.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 16: But I think about it like this.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 10: So I'm a parent, and now that my children are
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 10: moving into adulthood, I recognize that many of the things
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: that we have told them growing up, they're also realizing
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 10: that I am figuring it out with them as well.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 10: And I don't know that it's a lot different in ministry,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 10: like this is where the goal is? I think we
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 10: all know where the goal is, but I'm still working
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 10: it out too. I think where people get in trouble
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 10: is that they're not actually doing the work, Like I'm
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 10: telling you that this is the goal, and I'm doing
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 10: the exact opposite of it, Which is why I've tried
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 10: to be really intentional about being authentic. Like I'm going
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 10: through depression, I'm going through an anxiety. This is what
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 10: I'm learning in.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 16: The midst of that.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 10: Because it doesn't serve me for me to come off
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: as your god when we all need the same one.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 10: So I try to really make sure that I'm not
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 10: on a pedestal. I try to kick the pedestal down.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Like you see a preacher. A preacher will be preaching,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: right and then he's cheating on his wife, or a
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: preacher'll be preaching and that he's hitting his wife, you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. So when you see that, it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: kind of difficult to uphold a preacher, and you'll be like,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: are we just playing this game or or do you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: really feel that way and really made a mistake You're
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: see I'm saying, Well.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: I mean, I can't judge someone's heart, I can't judge
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 10: their experiences, so I'm a little hesitant to really make
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: a judgment on situations.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Say anybody in particular.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 16: People.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: I don't know anyone either who's going through this, but
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: I think people infer a lot. But I will say this, like,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 10: preachers are human. So if you are who you are,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 10: and you can cheat on your wife, and a preacher
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 10: can cheat on his wife, like he's a man too,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 10: she's a woman too. And so you guys are still
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 10: going to have the same areas of temptation that you
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 10: need to overcome. I think your response to that, like,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 10: what is my response? How do I grow from here?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 10: How do I create boundaries? Do I need to sit down?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 10: Do I need to heal?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 10: I think how you handle your humanity in the face
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 10: of this divine call is what's most important. I am
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: careful that pastors don't have a license to do whatever
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 10: they want to because of the power they hold. I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 10: think that you can be human, but all of us
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 10: need to be try and stretching, growing to be more
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 10: like Jesus or we are up here playing. I'm not
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 10: asking you to be perfect. I'm asking you to really
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 10: be on this walk for real.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Who's this white path that you talking about?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 16: And listen to the breakfast Club?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: We got more with Sarah Jake Robins when we come back,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning,
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's tej Envy, Jess, Hilariy Charlamage the God.
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  Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We still have Sarah Jake's
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  Speaker 3: Robinson the building. Yes, I want it.
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  Speaker 8: Because you're a mother of six.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, and you're busy, extremely busy with your podcast and
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  Speaker 14: then writing a book and then traveling.
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  Speaker 3: How do you balance that?
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  Speaker 11: Like mother?
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  Speaker 8: And I know you said your children are going into
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  Speaker 8: a dulthood, but how.
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  Speaker 3: Do you balance that?
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  Speaker 16: Well?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, and I feel for you because you got a
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  Speaker 10: lot going on. I think it's the message of this book.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's really allowing myself to like flow in
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  Speaker 10: a different definition of.
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  Speaker 16: Power based off of each of those roles.
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  Speaker 10: Because as much as I want to bring the same
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  Speaker 10: intensity to everything I do, if I do that, I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 10: may end up damaging my children because I'm talking to
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  Speaker 10: them like a business partner. And so really defining for
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  Speaker 10: myself what does it mean to be powerful in these
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  Speaker 10: specific roles and how much capacity do I have to
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  Speaker 10: show up in that space asking for help, you know,
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  Speaker 10: Changing and modifying my life to really fit my priorities
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  Speaker 10: has done a lot, and then also just making sure
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  Speaker 10: my kids know like I'm tired.
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  Speaker 16: So my daughter is eight. She was devastated when I
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  Speaker 16: left yesterday. She was like, please don't leave me.
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  Speaker 3: Please.
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  Speaker 10: Literally She's like, can you please come home? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 10: I just need this one week to get this book
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  Speaker 10: in as many hands as possible and their mommy will
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 10: be home. But I'm packing to her, like, you know
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  Speaker 10: you do this, well, I'm doing this, so she understands this.
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  Speaker 10: Sometimes absence does not mean that I don't care, and
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  Speaker 10: it's a balancing walk, especially I think if you have
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  Speaker 10: mom guilt like I do sometimes. But I also want
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  Speaker 10: her to see a woman walking in her purpose and
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  Speaker 10: being excited about it and changing lives. So I share
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  Speaker 10: testimonies with her too. I'm like, let's sit down and
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  Speaker 10: read these comments from this weekend. Thank you for being
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 10: a part of this. So she feels a part of
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  Speaker 10: it as well.
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  Speaker 14: Okay, because mama son is twelve now, but I miss
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  Speaker 14: a lot of him being going from grade to grade.
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  Speaker 7: You know my mom.
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  Speaker 14: Between my mom and his dad, that's who has Yeah,
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  Speaker 14: I was touring a lot before I actually got to
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  Speaker 14: do this, and I just feel so guilty a lot sometimes,
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  Speaker 14: like oh, and now I have this new baby, and
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  Speaker 14: I'm like, I'm bringing him up to Jersey with me,
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  Speaker 14: and he wants to grow up in the house with
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  Speaker 14: the baby instead of me being in Jersey with the
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  Speaker 14: new baby with you know, and then him still being
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  Speaker 14: with my mother, Like, and I don't want to repeat that, right,
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  Speaker 14: I don't want to do that again.
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  Speaker 16: So I feel guilty.
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  Speaker 10: So I had my son at fourteen, and I think
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  Speaker 10: one of the things that makes me feel most guilty
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  Speaker 10: is that I know that I was growing up while
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  Speaker 10: he was growing up, and so the way that I'm
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  Speaker 10: able to be present even for my younger kids, I
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  Speaker 10: know that he didn't have that. I think one, I
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 10: don't know if you have to deal with this, but
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  Speaker 10: I had to really forgive myself for what I didn't
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  Speaker 10: know when I was raising you. Yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 10: just I didn't know. I did the best that I
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  Speaker 10: could and to trust that I still have opportunity. If
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  Speaker 10: you think about adult children who were wounded from relationships
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  Speaker 10: that didn't go well with their parents, there's still a
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  Speaker 10: little inside of them that wants their parents to show up,
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  Speaker 10: that wants to experience healing in that space, and so
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  Speaker 10: it reminds me too that I'm never out of time.
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  Speaker 10: So I'm constantly still reparenting him, even at twenty one
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  Speaker 10: years old.
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  Speaker 7: You know, in the clamp Down chapter you start by saying,
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  Speaker 7: if you're one of those people who know better and
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  Speaker 7: instantly do better, I'm probably gonna be the friend who
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 7: you roll your eyes at constantly.
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  Speaker 3: Why are you that friend?
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  Speaker 10: Because things need to marinate form me, Like I don't
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  Speaker 10: just activate things like you can tell me like you
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  Speaker 10: need to be vegan, and I will. I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 10: that marinate for a year or two before that actually activates,
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  Speaker 10: because I don't do things just because someone says that
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  Speaker 10: I should do them.
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  Speaker 16: It has to be real. I have to have a
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  Speaker 16: conviction about it.
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  Speaker 10: But I will marinate it so I can figure out, like,
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  Speaker 10: how does this revelation actually fit within the context of
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  Speaker 10: my life. So in the back of the books, each
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  Speaker 10: book has something to marinate on, something to activate, and
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  Speaker 10: something to pray on.
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  Speaker 16: Because I know everyone moves into change differently.
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  Speaker 7: I love the marinating before activating, but I feel like
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  Speaker 7: that's probably how the majority of us moved.
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  Speaker 3: Is there ever a time we shouldn't marin it? Before activating,
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  Speaker 3: like the spirit.
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  Speaker 16: Said, do it we just I mean, to each his own.
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  Speaker 10: I think if you feel I'm not into telling folks
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  Speaker 10: what they should do, you know what I mean? Like,
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  Speaker 10: I think, if you feel like there's a now on it,
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  Speaker 10: you should do that. You should move in it now.
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  Speaker 10: And a lot of times when we move in it now,
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  Speaker 10: we learned the Marior Nation lessons afterwards, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, what about the spirit though? So the spirit
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  Speaker 3: said move like the spirit always tells you to be
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  Speaker 3: patient in marinate.
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  Speaker 16: I'm in relationship.
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  Speaker 11: On that.
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  Speaker 16: I didn't have a choice and I didn't have a choice.
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  Speaker 10: I didn't have a choice that, oh Lord, But yeah, no, no,
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  Speaker 10: I was in the spirit in that I had a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 10: mission to accomplish and I didn't want anything to distract me.
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  Speaker 10: And my husband wasn't there, my parents weren't there. So
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 10: it wasn't like I was gonna be able toss the microphone.
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  Speaker 10: I was the you know, senior leadership person that was
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  Speaker 10: present in that room, and so I had to take
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  Speaker 10: it off.
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  Speaker 16: I didn't love it. I didn't, but I stood up
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  Speaker 16: to it.
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  Speaker 10: And I think it was really interesting because I was
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  Speaker 10: going through something at that time where I was wondering
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  Speaker 10: could I be in Dallas a part of senior leadership,
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  Speaker 10: like with my past, with the way that I preached,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 10: with the way that I'm a little different than I
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 10: guess traditional pastors, And I really did feel like God
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  Speaker 10: was trying to tell me, like, just be authentic, just
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 10: trust yourself in that season of my life. And so
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  Speaker 10: that Sunday, when I'm sitting there with a wig cap
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  Speaker 10: on and then other women started taking their wigs off
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  Speaker 10: on the altar, I was like, you know what, I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 10: think this maybe God trying to tell me You're gonna
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 10: have to show up as your full self in order.
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  Speaker 16: To get this done.
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  Speaker 10: And I know a lot of people made fun of it,
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  Speaker 10: but there were so many people who were like, seeing
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  Speaker 10: you stand there being courageous stepping into that moment helped
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: me so much to just embrace who I am. And
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  Speaker 10: so I really feel like God took something that would
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 10: have been very embarrassing and at least allowed there to
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  Speaker 10: be a buffer from the people who were moved by
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  Speaker 10: that moment.
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  Speaker 3: Well at least for me. I was like, that's why
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  Speaker 3: we rock with her. Wanting to be your true self
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  Speaker 3: at all times.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I mean like y'all know this isn't my hair,
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  Speaker 10: and like, no, it's not ideal, but it's not more
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  Speaker 10: important than what I'm here for. So like, I'm going
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  Speaker 10: to take it off and we're going to move on
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  Speaker 10: down the road. When I got back behind the platform
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  Speaker 10: that I was like, oh lord, I have desecrated the body.
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  Speaker 12: So there are bundles on the officer.
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  Speaker 16: I have desecrated this place. But yeah, it just turns
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  Speaker 16: out it wasn't that way.
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  Speaker 3: I love chapter sixteen to Know Your Harm? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what is knowing your heart?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I talk about the oath that doctors take where
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  Speaker 10: they say, you know that they'll do no harm, but
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  Speaker 10: they're also recognizing that they're practicing.
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  Speaker 16: And when we move in power.
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  Speaker 10: Part of the reason why so many of us don't
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 10: move in power is that we're afraid that we won't
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  Speaker 10: do it perfectly or that will make mistakes. But if
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  Speaker 10: we can embrace the reality that I'm going to be
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  Speaker 10: powerful and humble, I'm going to be wrong, I'm going
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  Speaker 10: to have to apologize, I'm going to mess up. I
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: may say things too sharply. Then that doesn't make me
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  Speaker 10: any less powerful. As a matter of fact, it makes
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  Speaker 10: me more powerful because I recognize that my position of
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  Speaker 10: power could disrupt my relationships sometimes, but I value these
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  Speaker 10: relationships enough to learn how to be powerful in a
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  Speaker 10: way that honors the spaces that I'm in.
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  Speaker 2: Next time, what's your thought on the way that church
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  Speaker 2: is now? Right, as a kid, you had to go
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  Speaker 2: to church every Sunday. You had to be in the building,
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  Speaker 2: you had to sit there, and if there was a baptism,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: you was gonna be there all day. Now a lot
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: of people turn it on Sunday morning and it's a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: lot easier. So what are your thoughts on people not
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: actually attending the institution of church?
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  Speaker 16: First of all, y'all not about to tie trip in me. No,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 16: you don't, No, you don't be very clear. Let me see.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I think that the world is changing, and
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 10: as the world changes, I think people are finding things
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 10: that are more convenient for them. And I do think
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 10: that you are able to have intimate encounters with God
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  Speaker 10: from this comfort of your own home, and I think
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 10: is powerful that that's the way that things are being spread.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 10: I think it's like watching a football game at home,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 10: Like you can get high, you can be excited for
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 10: your team, but there is something about being in the
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 10: room with other people that makes you just take things
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 10: over the edge. I was surprised that in a world
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: where people are uncoming to church, ya, we have forty
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  Speaker 10: thousand women at the woman Evolve conference. Because I'm like,
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  Speaker 10: I don't know that this is a thing that people
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: are going to really be into when they like virtual experiences,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 10: but there is something that happens in healthy community and
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: connection that allows your faith.
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  Speaker 16: To really be strengthened.
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  Speaker 10: I've had people come into rooms and like they didn't
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: really want to be there, somebody drugged them in there.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: They were going through a depression. They don't know why
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: they were there, but just being in the space, sitting
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 10: next to someone who was able to care for them
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 10: and just being surrounded by worship lifted their spirits when
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 10: they couldn't lift their own hands. And I don't think
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 10: that there's any substitute for that.
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  Speaker 3: Would you also keep it tight, though, hour that's.
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  Speaker 16: Let us take something.
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  Speaker 10: I don't Yeah, it's finished, he said it. Everything everything
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  Speaker 10: he said has been said to me, and so now
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: we can go home and have brunch.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I do think we have to honor people's time because
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: people do have options, and so being really intentional about
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 10: making sure people feel like I can go get out
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  Speaker 10: and have the rest of my day.
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  Speaker 16: It's part of what we should really lean into.
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  Speaker 1: I will keep a lot.
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  Speaker 2: We have more with Sarah Jakes Robins when we come
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  Speaker 2: back as the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club
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  Speaker 2: Morning everybody at ej NV, Jess Hilarious, Charlomage the God
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  Speaker 2: we are the Breakfast Club.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: We're still kicking it with Sarah Jakes, Roberts Charlamagne.
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  Speaker 7: Is the church whack? That's a question that you wanted
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: the question. That's what I got smoked for. He said
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 7: that he thinks the church has become whack.
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  Speaker 10: I heard in context what he said made a lot
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 10: more sense, but I heard this sound bite was trash.
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  Speaker 10: I think that everyone has a different experience of church,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 10: and I think that there are some people who have
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 10: probably had an experience that has disheartened them in that way.
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  Speaker 16: But I love the church.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: I mean, as much as I went through my own
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 10: church hurt and trauma, the church was also really beautiful
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 10: to me in times where I didn't have anywhere to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: go and I could sit in that presence and experience
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: God and sometimes to really experience God. In church, you
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 10: have to look past the people, and maybe that's why.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 10: Maybe it's not because maybe it keeps our focus on
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 10: once you really matter.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: I love what you said to about know your harm.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: You said, deflecting from the way that you harm someone
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: and highlighting the way that they harm instead is a
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: sign of immaturity that keeps you from truly being helpful.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Found on that well.
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  Speaker 10: A lot of times we will not embrace what we
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 10: did to someone because of what they've done to us,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 10: and it keeps us from owning our stuff and growing
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 10: and so being able to say, even though my teacher
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 10: may not be perfect, like my teacher may have failed
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 10: in chemistry, but they getting an A plus in this
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 10: history class, that means that I need to at least
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 10: be able to receive from them this opportunity to grow.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 10: And I feel like in relationships that's hard, especially if
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 10: you're married, because when you're married, your person brings up
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 10: something and you like, oh, but.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 16: Last week you did X, Y and Z, But what
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 16: did you do today?
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  Speaker 11: You know?
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  Speaker 10: And how can you own that? And I think when
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 10: we own our stuff, we give other people permission to
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 10: do it as well. Sometimes we want to be the
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 10: person who receives the apology, but not the one who
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 10: gives it.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 16: But we have the lead in humility and vulnerability.
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  Speaker 3: You said that's how you went to a rate word initially, right.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 16: Where oh no, yeah, no, yes, his stuff at him
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 16: all the time.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 10: Well, I don't know if I was throwing his stuff
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 10: at him as much as I was maybe reciting it
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 10: in my own head. But I think I will say
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 10: that when I was single, after I went through my divorce,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 10: I finally got my life together with me and my
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: two kids.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 16: You really could not.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 10: Tell me that I was not misindependent out here. So
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 10: I really went into our relationship with a certain level
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 10: of pride where I was like, at the end of
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 10: the day, I got my stuff together. I finally love
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 10: who I am and embracing it. And so when I
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 10: was in relationship with him, and he would just ask
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 10: me the simplest of questions. We weren't even fighting. It
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 10: would just be like, why'd you do that? I didn't
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 10: like that because I'm not used to having nobody questioned
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 10: my decais and it was a simple, harmless question. And
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 10: so I think that I I went into a defensive
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 10: one because I wanted to protect my healing, and when
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 10: you're in a marriage and you go into it trying
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 10: to protect yourself and make sure that you don't get
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 10: done the way that you were.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 16: Done in the past.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 10: I don't know that it's fair for creating intimacy, and
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 10: so I had to do a lot of work of
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 10: receiving his perspective and finding it valuable so that I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 10: could become better, and I have become better as a
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 10: result of it.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: What does power look like in a relationship?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 10: Those dynamics are always changing. I think especially now that
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 10: we see, you know, hyper masculinity is beginning to be interrogated.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 10: We're seeing women move into positions where sometimes they're the
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 10: breadwinners and men are at home being more comfortable taking
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 10: care of the family. I think power in a relationship
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 10: is recognizing the strengths of what your person carries and
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 10: how that strength builds you in your area of weakness,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 10: without feeling like they have to be strong or stronger
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 10: in the same area that you're strong. I think it's
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 10: like this symbiotic relationship, this flow where you're able to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: build a life together because both of you bring something
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 10: different to the table, and to honor that, to really
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 10: honor it is important.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: You said something else in the book.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: You said when you are unable to connect the dots
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  Speaker 7: between who you since you could become and who you
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  Speaker 7: presently are, it doesn't just cause internal frustration. It renders
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  Speaker 7: you powerless. And one of the examples you use is
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  Speaker 7: you don't defend yourself when misunderstood. Yeah, and to me,
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  Speaker 7: not feeling to need to explain yourself is powerful.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think not explaining yourself and not defending yourself,
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  Speaker 10: and I think it's different because you have a platform
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  Speaker 10: and so you can't defend yourself twenty four to seven.
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  Speaker 10: But when we're in intimate relationships with someone and they
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  Speaker 10: have an expectation of who we are or this idea
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  Speaker 10: of who we are, and we don't change that, we
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  Speaker 10: allow them to believe it, we do end up powerless
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  Speaker 10: because I'm not even bringing the full version of who
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  Speaker 10: I am into this friendship, into this parent child dynamic,
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  Speaker 10: And you end up robbing yourself of the ability to
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  Speaker 10: really show up in your power and allow them to
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  Speaker 10: believe something about you that's not true. And so it
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  Speaker 10: is powerful to be like you got me messed up,
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  Speaker 10: Like that's not what I believe, that's not what I think,
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  Speaker 10: and if we're going to walk this thing, guy, I
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  Speaker 10: want you to know who I am for real, so
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  Speaker 10: that you can know what to expect from me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, guys, you talk about intimate relationship.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, it's hard. It's hard for me.
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  Speaker 8: He's doing is telling them the book they're not going
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  Speaker 8: to buy.
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  Speaker 14: If you asking all the questions about the book, making
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  Speaker 14: her basically recite.
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  Speaker 3: The book, you should pray to your bob looks like hers,
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  Speaker 3: That's what you should.
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  Speaker 2: Now, why is my bob?
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  Speaker 9: He can get here?
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  Speaker 1: And when she pulled the wig off, I.
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  Speaker 8: Would the dressing world.
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  Speaker 9: Questions them.
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  Speaker 3: So you forced me to see, Well, what message you
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  Speaker 3: hoping people get from the book?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 10: The mess is that I am hoping people get from
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  Speaker 10: the book is that power is a flow and that
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  Speaker 10: power that you have experienced in your past is still
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  Speaker 10: present in your future. It must, it just might be
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  Speaker 10: taking on a different form. So to be open to
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  Speaker 10: how power is being redefined in your present.
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  Speaker 3: Us to prayer.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you God for this opportunity, for this platform, Thank
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 10: you for using these voices at this stage in their life.
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  Speaker 10: And I'd usually pray for the listeners, but God, I
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  Speaker 10: want to pray for them, that you would stir up
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  Speaker 10: the gift of God that's on the inside of them,
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  Speaker 10: that you would highlight the areas of their life where
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  Speaker 10: you want them to experience more of your power and
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  Speaker 10: to show them the power that you've placed inside of them.
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  Speaker 10: I thank you God for giving them wisdom strategy, not
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  Speaker 10: just for their careers, but for their family, their emotional
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  Speaker 10: health and wellness. And God, I pray that you would
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  Speaker 10: continue to show them your life that they may lean
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  Speaker 10: into it in Jesus' name.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 7: Make sure you go get Sarah Jake roberts new book
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 7: We appreciate you for coming, Miss Roberts, and you need
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  Speaker 7: to come more often for people who think church is whack,
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  Speaker 7: because you're the person I feel like is going to
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  Speaker 7: bridge the gap between you know, church in this new generation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really feel that way.
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  Speaker 16: Oh so thank you.
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  Speaker 10: That's that's a tremendous honor a lot of responsibility. But
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  Speaker 10: I'm committed to, you know, holding down that square.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, all right, Sarah Jakes Roberts. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning warning everybody at DJ and V Jess Hilari
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  Speaker 2: charlamage to God.
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  Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, you got
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  Speaker 3: a positive note, positive note.
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  Speaker 7: Stop letting your potential go to waste because you don't
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  Speaker 7: feel confident. Already enough people with half your talent on
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  Speaker 7: making serious waves while you're still waiting to feel ready.
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  Speaker 7: And I want to tell you something that Bishop Tdjkes
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  Speaker 7: told me one time. Even if you don't think you're worthy,
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  Speaker 7: even if you don't think you're a ready, God knows
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  Speaker 7: your worthy and God knows you're already, get on it.
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  Speaker 7: It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, bitches, y'all finished or y'all done,