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Jags HQ | Gladstone, Boselli on Jaguars' Preseason Week 1 Approach · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to jags HQ, presented by Fresh from Florida Brian
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  Speaker 1: Sexton and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman. Sit down each week
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  Speaker 1: Jags HQ presented by Fresh from Florida, starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: And the game will be on on Saturday afternoon in
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  Speaker 3: New Orleans. Welcome to jags HQ, presented by Fresh from
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  Speaker 3: Florida Brian Sexton, along with Jeff Logman, Tony Brisseli and
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  Speaker 3: James Gladstone will be along in just a couple of moments,
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  Speaker 3: and we're glad you're with us on the Jaguars Radio Network,
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  Speaker 3: which is presented by the University of Florida, the number
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  Speaker 3: one state for education. Jeff, did you sweat enough today?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? You know what? I actually found some shade.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, There was Jenny out there.
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  Speaker 4: There was there was a little bit over there. They
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  Speaker 4: had these pretty neat little trailer things at the Saints
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  Speaker 4: training facility and they're basically frozen boxes.
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  Speaker 5: We have one of Jacksonville and I found it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the it's on the far side, northern northwestern
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  Speaker 4: side of the field. It's a long way way over there.
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  Speaker 4: And uh but they got these two ice boxes where
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  Speaker 4: the players can go inside and cool off, like in
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  Speaker 4: really cold temperatures, and the players were all utilizing it,
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  Speaker 4: and I was actually utilizing the shade.
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  Speaker 5: Of it, just trying to be close to it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I found my way underneath
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  Speaker 4: of one of the Jaguars videographer's stations and they have
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  Speaker 4: like this uh bimini top that would go on a boat,
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  Speaker 4: but it actually is on a film trailer stand.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, trailer thing like a boat. Yep.
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  Speaker 4: So I was able to steal a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: shade from that.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody handed you Tom Benson's parasol and walk around the
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  Speaker 3: field with that.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, that's pretty cool that you bring that up,
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  Speaker 4: because at the Saints facility, if you look at their
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  Speaker 4: indoor training facility all the way up in the apex
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  Speaker 4: of the roof, there's a big circle up there that
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  Speaker 4: says TB and it has the silhouette of Tom Benson
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  Speaker 4: with that umbrella thing that he used a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people don't know what if parasol is not one of.
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  Speaker 5: Them, you're refined. I would figure it in Virginia at
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  Speaker 5: the University of Virginia and.
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  Speaker 4: Thom parasol is something you sprayed under your arm fits
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 5: Joint practice. It's the new preseason, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now I'm excited about it because it's a great
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  Speaker 4: it's a great chance to evaluate the entire roster. You know,
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  Speaker 4: typically in years past, you would have, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: everybody would get reps, reps in a practice, and then
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  Speaker 4: people still got reps in the game. And now you
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  Speaker 4: get the starters a lot of reps in this practice,
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  Speaker 4: and then you get the reps in the game with
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  Speaker 4: your younger players, which I like that because you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's the ultimate ten, that's the ultimate evaluation. And
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  Speaker 4: I want to see those guys under the lights. Even
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  Speaker 4: though some places don't have lights. It plays in the daytime,
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  Speaker 4: but you know what I'm saying, and under the lights
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  Speaker 4: supposed to speak because you just don't have a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot of history with those players, and it gives you
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more of a gauge of what that
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  Speaker 4: player is going to be like in a game day atmosphere.
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  Speaker 3: So is it fair to say that the joint practices
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  Speaker 3: are about getting ready for the season and the preseason
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  Speaker 3: game is about developing the roster, because once you get
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  Speaker 3: in the regular season, it isn't about development anymore.
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  Speaker 5: It's about winning week two weeks, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: So this is the opportunity for them to coach guys
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  Speaker 3: from New Orleans to Carolina to Tampa to see who
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  Speaker 3: gets better, to see who's got a spot.
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  Speaker 5: So this is this is.
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  Speaker 4: I like it. I like it like this, you know,
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  Speaker 4: And then some people would say no, and I get
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  Speaker 4: some fans would you know. For a long time, fans
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  Speaker 4: would scream about, you know, preseason games and the prices
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  Speaker 4: and all the players are are not playing a whole lot.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like you know, And I think through the years,
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  Speaker 4: I think the fans have almost kind of learned to
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  Speaker 4: understand what it's about. And they don't want to see
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  Speaker 4: their starters exposed in a preseason game for injury, especially
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  Speaker 4: key ones that they know what they can do, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a great opportunity for the young players to
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  Speaker 4: show what they can.
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  Speaker 3: Do so they they're able to collaborate, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Kellen Moore and Liam Cohen have a conversation and they
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  Speaker 3: lay out practice.
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  Speaker 5: Basically, they collaborate on the.
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  Speaker 3: Practice plan, so you get matchups with guys we were
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  Speaker 3: talking a little bit earlier, but for our network out
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  Speaker 3: against that's just joining us. Anton Harrison against Chase Young.
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  Speaker 3: Anton Harrison now the story. He is the left tackle.
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  Speaker 3: He moved over there during camp. Liam Cohen suggested that
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  Speaker 3: if it sticks, it might be good for us. Clearly
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  Speaker 3: it has stuck. How did he do against Chase Young today?
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  Speaker 3: And just the value of getting to line up against
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  Speaker 3: a guy like that who is a big, strong, physical number.
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  Speaker 5: Two overall draft pick, a guy who can really bring it.
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  Speaker 4: I thought he did did really good and it really
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  Speaker 4: highlighted at least today did for me that Anton Harrison
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  Speaker 4: that's where he belongs. He's got excellent feet, and his
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  Speaker 4: strength is there and its strength is there because his
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  Speaker 4: feet are good. And the thing that impresses me the
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  Speaker 4: most about him the consistency and the finish with him,
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  Speaker 4: which if you looked at Anton Harrison from a couple
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  Speaker 4: of years ago, it wasn't there, right, Okay, it wasn't there.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't put him into that category of I trust
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  Speaker 4: these guys, right, I mean, you got that circle of
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  Speaker 4: guys you trust and you know you want to have
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  Speaker 4: around long term. He wasn't in that circle prior to
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  Speaker 4: last year, and this past year he pushed his way
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  Speaker 4: into that circle with the performance that he had, the
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  Speaker 4: consistency that he had, and the way that he finished
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  Speaker 4: every play. And I gave a lot of credit a
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  Speaker 4: couple couple. First of all, Sean Serette excellent offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: He really is excellent and very consistent. Liam Cone's messaging
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  Speaker 4: challenging guys, you know, try and find your edge as
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  Speaker 4: a player, and then you know, look, having a Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame Executive Vice President of Football Operations chirping in
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  Speaker 4: your ear a little bit, you know, helps a little bit, as.
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  Speaker 3: Big Walker little and Cam Robinson and some of the
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  Speaker 3: other guys who have played that position in recent years
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  Speaker 3: have heard from Tony.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's all of that I think is
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  Speaker 4: gone a long ways towards now. You trust him at
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  Speaker 4: left tackle, and you know, the reality is I've mentioned
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  Speaker 4: this before, cole Van Lannon likes the right side better.
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  Speaker 4: He can play either side, sure, and do very well
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  Speaker 4: last year, but he likes the right side the best.
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  Speaker 4: He gets his dominant hand in the position of strength
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  Speaker 4: for him. And uh so I think that all that
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  Speaker 4: being said, and let me add this to Okay, prior
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  Speaker 4: to cole fan Land and being ready, we don't know
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  Speaker 4: when that's gonna be. Are you more comfortable with Walker
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  Speaker 4: Little as your left tackle or your right tackle? Right tackle? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean I don't want him over at left tackle,
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  Speaker 4: right I want him at right tackle. That seems to
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  Speaker 4: be where he's a little bit better as well too so,
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  Speaker 4: and he's a very physical run blocker.
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  Speaker 5: Walker Little is now he is not practiced.
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  Speaker 3: He's been out for at least a week with an
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  Speaker 3: ankle I think, although I'm told it's not long term.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was the uh the day they
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  Speaker 4: did a mock game, like the first offensive play, he
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  Speaker 4: got a little rolled up on and yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 3: So if if he's slow, who's the next how you
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  Speaker 3: move White mile him out there?
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  Speaker 4: Well that's what that's what they did today. Okay, So
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  Speaker 4: they put Jonahman him in at left or at right guard,
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  Speaker 4: and then they pushed whyitet Mile him out to right tackle.
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  Speaker 4: And it was a little bit of a struggle today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: okay with those guys, but I think that you know,
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  Speaker 4: if Whyatt Milam were at right tackle working for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, I think he'd be fine. But it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't a thing of beauty today. So there's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of work to be done there.
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  Speaker 3: So let's talk while we're on the offensive line. I
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  Speaker 3: listened to a lot of National Football podcast The Football
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  Speaker 3: Show from the Athletic Robert May's group.
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  Speaker 5: It's outstanding, but.
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  Speaker 3: They have a less than stellar opinion of this offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: They keep coming back to it's an average group. It's
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  Speaker 3: an average group. Do you see it that way? How
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  Speaker 3: would you categorize where the Jaguars are? I think one thing,
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  Speaker 3: and I had this conversation with Robert when he was
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  Speaker 3: a practice not long ago. They've got some depth if
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  Speaker 3: everybody's healthy, and we know that doesn't happen all year long.
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  Speaker 3: When you've got a guy like Walker Little who can
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  Speaker 3: play right tackle, he can play left tackle, he can
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  Speaker 3: play either guard spot for you as well, you've got
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  Speaker 3: young guys. Immanuel Pregnant, who won't talk about a lot
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  Speaker 3: this year, is a guy.
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  Speaker 5: Who has shown you something.
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  Speaker 4: He's the future.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it seems to me like this offensive line
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  Speaker 3: with Sean Surrett is poised to become one of the
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  Speaker 3: better units in the NFL. But people don't have that
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  Speaker 3: impression of it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and look, the reality is is that you know,
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  Speaker 4: the kind of the standard Bears, you know, for the
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  Speaker 4: last couple of years have been Detroit and Philadelphia, and
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  Speaker 4: this is this offensive line is not going to get
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  Speaker 4: confused with either one of those two football teams, right
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  Speaker 4: and you know so, And if you look at them individually,
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  Speaker 4: are they all that great? Not necessarily, okay, But I
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  Speaker 4: think the way that they played, particularly early on last year,
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  Speaker 4: they played pretty good and then they got a little
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  Speaker 4: dinged up towards the end of the year and they
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  Speaker 4: kind of struggled a little bit. You know, is it
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  Speaker 4: an elite group, Is it a top one third group? No?
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  Speaker 5: But they've got upside.
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  Speaker 4: They've got upside, and they've got some competition that I
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  Speaker 4: think is going to push and make this unit better
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  Speaker 4: across the board. And uh, you know, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: go to this pregnant guy again, real yeah, please, I
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  Speaker 4: think that this guy is a future a future starter
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  Speaker 4: and a future mauler. Now I'm talking road grading machine.
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  Speaker 5: Any mono wide Chris Naioli exactly. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I would put him right along the lines of those
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  Speaker 4: two guys because of the power that he's playing with
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  Speaker 4: and he and he put it on display today in
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  Speaker 4: the practice with the Saints.
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  Speaker 3: One more fault before we take our first break. If
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  Speaker 3: you've got pregnant who you think is the future? And
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  Speaker 3: I've heard he is a left side guard, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know about that, no about all right, all right, he's
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  Speaker 3: a guard. You've got whyitet Milam who has been told
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  Speaker 3: to me that he's going to be a guard, and
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Manheim, who is the future at center?
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  Speaker 5: How how how fortunate?
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  Speaker 3: How rich are the Jaguars to have three guys that
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  Speaker 3: they consider the future on the roster and none of
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  Speaker 3: the three of them may start this year?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's good, but the reality is is but
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  Speaker 4: you know, you also want to get to the point
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  Speaker 4: where you have very clear starters, okay, and there's no doubt,
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  Speaker 4: and there's some doubt this year, and there's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of doubt. You know, the perfect world, You've got
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  Speaker 4: guys that are pro bowl you know, high level guys,
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  Speaker 4: and you sit there and you go, hey, that's his spot,
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  Speaker 4: and it ain't nobody else because he's that good. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we're not there yet, but look, Rome wasn't built in
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  Speaker 4: the day, and they're doing a very good job of
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  Speaker 4: supplementing the talent and making it competitive in the short
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  Speaker 4: time so far that they've been at the Helm.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, some observations from Jeff Logaman, who was all
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  Speaker 3: over the practice field today and has the video up
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  Speaker 3: in front of him, will have much much more when
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  Speaker 3: we come back. We'll talk about the quarterback. This is
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  Speaker 3: JAG's HQ on the Jaguars Radio Network. Parker Washington made
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  Speaker 3: a beautiful adjustment in the air, and well, he looked
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  Speaker 3: like Odell Beckham who played up the road in Baton
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  Speaker 3: Rouge at LSU. Take a look at this one, Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was amazing to watch Parker Washington reach
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  Speaker 3: turn adjust and snatching one handed out of the air.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how guys have that kind of body
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  Speaker 4: control because I've never had anything close to that. But
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  Speaker 4: he is an exceptionally talented guy and at times looks
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  Speaker 4: like the best player on the field. Boys, he's a
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  Speaker 4: heck of a player.
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  Speaker 5: Undoubtedly.
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  Speaker 2: I think today was a great chance for us to
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  Speaker 2: see in an entire showing of us versus a new
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  Speaker 2: crop of players and seeing guys show up in big
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  Speaker 2: ways at different points, different parts of the field was
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  Speaker 2: certainly a cool sight and that was one of the
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  Speaker 2: more you know, entertaining oo's and as kind of moment
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  Speaker 2: that that showed itself throughout the day.
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  Speaker 4: I think the best thing about having practice with another team,
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  Speaker 4: and Tony kind attest to this, is that the intensity
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  Speaker 4: just goes up, you know, a lot of notches. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's not quite game tempo, you know, intensity, but it's
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  Speaker 4: pretty dog on close and a great thing. It's pretty close,
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  Speaker 4: and it's in a control to environment where you're not
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  Speaker 4: having guys put at risk.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt, it's tough to simulate that stuff without it
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  Speaker 2: actually being under the lights in reality, and even the
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  Speaker 2: monotony of going against your own team, it's got eventually
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  Speaker 2: a dullness to it. So sprinkling in these joints is
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  Speaker 2: certainly a key piece to our approach and the lead
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  Speaker 2: out to the season, and you get to ensure that
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  Speaker 2: you're getting some specific looks and scenarios presented in this
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  Speaker 2: setting that you otherwise couldn't control in a preseason game itself.
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  Speaker 3: Are we seeing the evolution of the preseason. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we had this conversation the other day in Jacksonville. It
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  Speaker 3: seems like these joint practices are now where you get
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  Speaker 3: ready for the game, and the preseason games actually are
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  Speaker 3: about development.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think you'll see each team do it different.
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  Speaker 6: I mean last year we only had one joint. Our
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  Speaker 6: guys played in the first second preseason game.
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  Speaker 4: But you were trying to get a bunch of joints.
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  Speaker 4: Last year, it just didn't we did.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we we're gonna do three this year. I
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  Speaker 6: think last year we wanted one more and weren't able
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  Speaker 6: to get it. Each team does it different, you know. Obviously,
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  Speaker 6: I think where we've trended this year, we're have three joints.
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  Speaker 6: James talked about, you know what that does and allows
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  Speaker 6: us to get certain situations and the controlled environment.
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  Speaker 5: Jeff, as you said, but I think it's also a year.
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  Speaker 6: To year you kind of look at you know, where
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  Speaker 6: you're at, what you're trying to accomplish, what you need
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  Speaker 6: to get done, and these joints are They're great because
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  Speaker 6: it's a different jersey, but it's also kind of a
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  Speaker 6: moment of honesty, kind of see where you're at. And
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  Speaker 6: I think those are good moments to put everything on film.
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  Speaker 6: There's good and bad in every practice, every situation, and
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  Speaker 6: there's ebbs and flows of just playing the game of football.
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  Speaker 6: But I think also you have you watch the tape,
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  Speaker 6: you're like, hey, we're not where we want to be,
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  Speaker 6: because I think sometimes when you start playing against your
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  Speaker 6: same guys over and over again, you kind of pull yourself.
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  Speaker 5: You can get lulled the seep.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit because you get used to playing against it,
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  Speaker 6: and maybe the intensity some days aren't quite what you
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  Speaker 6: want when you show up today. Got another team, good
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  Speaker 6: football team. They finished the season very well last year,
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  Speaker 6: and they're well coached and they've done a good job.
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  Speaker 6: And it's a good test to find out kind of
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  Speaker 6: where you're at and be honest yourself in those meeting
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  Speaker 6: rooms and what the tape says, because it is what
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  Speaker 6: it is, and then you try to get better.
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  Speaker 2: So much of what we find ourselves talking about is
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  Speaker 2: responses at this point in sort of the build up
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  Speaker 2: to the season, and so when you have a play
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  Speaker 2: that ends up not going your way, or you have
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  Speaker 2: a series that ends up not looking the way that
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  Speaker 2: you would want it, to what's the next one look like?
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  Speaker 2: You know, what's the next outing for us to look
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  Speaker 2: like after stuff that we needed to get cleaned up
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  Speaker 2: presents itself again to actually show whether or not it does.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, as we think back to even our
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  Speaker 2: first preseason week a year ago to day against Pittsburgh Steelers,
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  Speaker 2: you know that's really where we turned our attention was
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  Speaker 2: what's our response to this outing going to look like?
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to be what we want the next
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  Speaker 2: step to show itself to be? And so that's certainly
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  Speaker 2: what we'll like to apply here in the real action
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  Speaker 2: come this weekend.
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  Speaker 6: Now you go back a year ago, we had issues
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  Speaker 6: communicating with issues lining up prestat penalties, just the mechanics.
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  Speaker 6: The response was getting back and going back to the
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  Speaker 6: fundamentals and kind of saying, hey, let's address.
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  Speaker 5: Let's tell the truth of really where we are.
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  Speaker 6: Because I think the danger this time is one drinking
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  Speaker 6: drinking the kool aid and.
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  Speaker 5: Drinking your own you know what you're giving yourself and
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  Speaker 5: believe in.
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  Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of hype and a lot
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  Speaker 6: of excitement out there and everything like that, which is
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  Speaker 6: great it should be, but can you tell yourself the truth.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: Can you have those honest conversations and saying, hey, it's okay,
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: you know, we don't play until September, so we're trying
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: to get the best we get time, is what you're
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: saying by when we kick it off of Cleveland. But
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: right now we have a lot of work to do,
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: and part of that work is what James says, how
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: do you respond? But it's having those honest conversations with yourself,
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: with each other, with your teammates, coach the player, coach
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: to coach and say, hey, what we're doing right now
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: is where we are. How are we going to respond?
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: But where we are is not good enough. We need
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: to get better, we need to improve.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: And some of that conversation may be hey, look, we
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: like where we're at in some categories. It's not always
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: hey look, we're not there. And one of the ways
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: that you get there in the categories that you're not
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: is that competition and better play. And I think the
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: cool thing about having these joint practices is that, hey, look,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: you get to evaluate your guys that you kind of
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: got a pretty good idea about in the practice controlled environment,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: and then also you can control the tempo and then
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: also the actual reps that you're seeing, and then the
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: guys that you don't necessarily know about are getting the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: bulk of the reps on game day. And does that
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: not help also with the recruiting process of convincing undrafted
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: guys to come to the Jaguars say, hey, look, we
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: believe in playing our guys a lot in the preseason game.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: And when I say our guys, the undrafted guys, the
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: second teamers, So you're going to get an opportunity to
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: pull out of film out there. Is that also something
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: that's attractive.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've used that in the past when it was
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: hard data percentiles to attach to it. Obviously, you know
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: a year ago today, we didn't have a subset of
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: playtime percentages from the preseason for like undrafted college free
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: agents to lean on, So it wasn't something that we
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: could sort of highlights and yeah, that's exactly.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: What you could say, this is what we're gonna do.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: And even through that lens right last preseason, we did
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: give our first guys, second guys a little bit more
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: run than what we would have typically done. And so
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I think this time through what you're probably leaning on
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: more in some of those discussions is hey, there was
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a few guys that are in places on our active roster,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and it was related to the opportunities that they were
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: given throughout the course of the preseason and training camp itself.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, moving forward, when you're not having your starters
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: first team, and you know, impactful contributors playing in those
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: preseason games, and guys know walking in the door that
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: they're going to get a high volume of snaps in
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: preseason games which the thirty one other teams get exposed to.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: That can certainly act is a healthy recruitment tool because hey,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: they're not only trying out for you, but they're trying
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: out for a lot a lot of their eyes.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: And the one thing I'd say, Jeff, you mentioned you
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: know there are certain areas where maybe you are good
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: or but I think this time of year you're never
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: at that point.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I actually can't.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: I don't think there's one spot that is we talk
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: about it, we're saying, hey, man, this is we're good here,
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: we can move on to this. I mean, Liam just
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: did a great job and always does with their players
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: of going through because everything is film based, the tape
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: doesn't lie I mean, hey, this is what we put
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: on tape, and there was good. But even in the good,
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: the nuances, the specificity, you know, even on a great catch,
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: what happens in the protection, the line of scrimmage, the
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: routes underneath that hold the guy to create that opportunity
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: down the field. So we got to continue to focus
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: on not being satisfied.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Man, you nailed that specificity.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: As well. It was a risk. I'll be awesome. When
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about saying that, I'm like, this is
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: a risk. This didn't come out poorly.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Polish brought you on the ledge there that was a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: high quality.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Stuck just like getting back on the bike. Hey, let's
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: take a break. We've got another segment with James Gladstone
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: and Tony Biseilli. When we come back, will last time
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: what they saw today at the Saints practice facility. We're
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: back with more of JAG's HQ after this Son Jaguars
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Radio rolling right along here JAG's HQ from New Orleans,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Bryant Sexton, James Gladstone, Tony Biselli, and Jeff Logoman. So
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: what'd you see what stuck out? Yeah, that got on
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the bus to come back. What were you talking about.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: That's a great a great way to start.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's better to go kind of where Tony
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: was leaving it, right, you talk about levels to this,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and hey, a good play occurs, well, let's acknowledge that,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: but let's also acknowledge what about it could also been
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: leveled up? Right, That it's not perfect, and so let's
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: try to continue to find different means of teaching points
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and execution around on bringing it all together so that
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: some of the potential flaws within it, or some of
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the vulnerabilities within a good play can be cleaned up
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: as well. And obviously you'll have your bad plays as well.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: That that's more apparent, right, you talk about that's exactly right.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So that's really where a lot of the attention turns
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: almost immediately, and nobody's going to be walking around the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: hotel halls simply leaning on the positive plays, because everybody's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: hungry for improvement, and everybody's going to give a lot
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of dialogue to hey, what about that?
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: What can we address?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: What can we highlight a little bit more so that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the next time we're presented with the app it looks
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: different than the unideal situation that might have showed itself,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and so we were able Tony myself to pour into
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball to its entirety. Already,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: defense comes after this conversation with a really more focused
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: lens on it. So look forward to diving into that,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: not just the live exposure element of that, because shoot,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the fun thing about some of these joint practices is
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: there's so much going on in your eyes are going
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: from one side of the field to the other, trying
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to capture as much as you can in real time,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: knowing that you know you're gonna you're gonna lean on
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the controlled environment afterwards to really try to analyze and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and take your time through it. But offensive side, gosh,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: there were some there were some plays that really popped,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: and there was a lot of things even within those
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: that I said, that require some attention to ensure that
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: they get cleaned come you know, the real action and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the regular season.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you even look at some of the
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: right I thought, there's some nice explosive runs that the
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Sea Rod had some nice runs. Basol had a nice
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: outside zone. He cut up with a quint. We saw,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: you know, crease him a couple of times. But even
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: on those plays, those are exposed to maybe ten twelve yards.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Those could even be bigger plays, just some of the
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: angles that were taken and getting that second level and
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: squaring them up so that you know there's a nice
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: cut back and just a instead of the wide receiver
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: taking trying to get get to the safety from his
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: slot position, inserting and squaring it up so sea Rod
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: has the ability to cut that on a two way go. Still,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: it was a six seven yard run. That's a positive play,
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: but it could be so much better. I mean, some
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: of the big plays down the field maybe questionable. Did
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Trevor get that off right time? Some of the protection
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: up front, we need to clean that up.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: You got to leave no doubt.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you want to make that where there's no doubt
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: that that's a touchdown or that's a big play. Some
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: of them we weren't great in the twist game. Today
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: we got picked a couple of times. Well, they were
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: giving us stuff. We had not seen a lot of them,
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: and so it's coming fast. We don't the scripting is done,
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: but there's no game planning and saying here's the blitz
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: that you're gonna see and let's walk through them the
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: day before and everything like that, and so it's coming fast.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: So guys reacting, some guy's being.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: More physical, and some of that was elementary too. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: mean some of the twists.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: Game getting on different levels to your point, Jeff, some
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: of them, some of them aren't complex. And so those
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: are things we should pick up and we need to
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: do a better job. And I think the overall physical
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: because that's something we hung our hat on last year.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: It's something we believe and we have a tough group.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: So this isn't questioning anyone's toughness. I mean, but just hey,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: this is something we got to do every day. It's
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: a standard we set. This is who we are, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: it can't just be a handful of place. It can't
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: just be when we're running the ball. We need to
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: be physical in past protection. So these are all things
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: that we just got to get better and keep on going.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: And if our guys are who.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: We believe they are, and I have a lot of
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: confidence in them, they'll show up and they're not satisfied
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: at all either. They're looking around saying, hey, we got
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: to get better. We want to be more physical because
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: that's who we are.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought the one really good thing obviously when
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: you anytime you go into a joint practice atmosphere, there's
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: always a little concern about maybe the get the fights
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. And so I was
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: in between the fields and was watching, and I'm standing
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: there with Deuce McCallister, who's, you know, great running back
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: with the Saints. James you got a chance to meet him,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: and he's a great guy. And we're sitting there watching
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: it and Bachial Tooton goes out to the right side
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: and kind of lowers his head into a defensive back.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: On the defensive back was kind of a little bit
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: letting off, and you know, and so a little bit
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: of anger there on the Saint side. And so the
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: next time that the Jaguars running back carries the ball,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: poor Chris Rodriguez got eventually taken to the ground. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: took the defensive back a while to accomplish that, and
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: then you know, some tempers flared, and you know, Lequin
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Allen comes over and the semi controlled fashion he didn't
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: do anything wrong, but which was actually I was very impressed.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Okay that he held his tempo pretty well, but I
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: mean other than that, I mean, it was, uh, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say civil.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, But but here's here's the thing that I think
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: great teams do.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: In physical teams, you have to operate the gray area.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: You have to go to the very edge and be
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: willing to cross it, maybe just so slightly. And so
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: I think that's where we and I think if you
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: watched this play a lot last year and how we
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: approached it and our guys did, and I think at
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: times during this camp, at times today you saw that
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: because we asked.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: And I think this is even as a player or
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: a member.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: This is a violent, physical game and so we want
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: our cake and eat it too, and that's not how
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: it works.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: You have to press the envelope to the very edge
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Just before that flag is gonna come out or you're
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: gonna do something to hurt your team. And that's the standard.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: And so I think we can continue to press and push.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: And there was a lot of times you looked at
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: you know, we saw something. We haven't watched the defense
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: and it's entirety. We just watch a little bit a
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: couple of plays and you saw that, and you saw
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: it on offense at times. I mean we were physical
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: in the run game at times and pushing guys, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: you saw that defensive line displaced, and now it's just
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: consistently doing that play in.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: And play out.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: If we want to be who we strive to be
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: and kind of accomplish what we want to do, that's
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: the standard we have to meet, and that's the standard
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: that the head coach is set and that's what he's preaching.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: We got one minute left. Do you build on this
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: joint practice with Carolina next week? I mean, I mean,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: how do they how do they connect in that set?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: You come out of this practicing We've got to do
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: these things better.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's points of emphasis coming out of them. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: you know, at the same time, the next the next
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: line is, hey, we got to match up against the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Saint under the lights and they're Dome and we got
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: to handle that. And then we'll turn our attention there
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to Carolina. But there's certainly opportunities that guys won't get
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: until Carolina because they won't be playing in the Rice
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: weekend's game. Uh So they'll be stewing on that, thinking
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: about that, putting thoughts there, and certainly looking for a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: few different elements to show themselves in that setting that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: didn't already that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Student's bad too.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: I remember that as a player, man, you have a
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: tough outing, tough practice, tough game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I remember you steing.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: You just stew for days because you know there's nothing
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: you can do about it except for watching tape and
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: wait and just mentally get to where you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Need to be.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: But oldimately, this game's played on the grass, and that's
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: where you earn it, that's where you prove it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: And uh oh, there will be some student.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: I remember that feeling man st stew away boys because
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: nothing you can do about and.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Take it back on the grass.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Guys, thanks for coming by, appreciate the observation. Saturday, four,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Row five, we'll get a chance to look a lot
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: of young guys. He went in particular you're excited about.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: They don't share. I gotta get excited about all of them.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a I figured this is gonna
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: be a fun go because these you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Guys are fighting. They're fighting for the you know called
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: part be part of the fifty three. Maybe that back
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: in they're sixteen practice squad spots and if anyone paid
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: attention last year, if you're on practice squad, there's a
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: chance you're gonna get elevated and help this team win
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: football games. We brought to the active roster Branson Combs
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: that probably very few people were talking about last year,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: ended up on our pract squad dominated special teams. Brought
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: them up, and now he's competing for a starting job.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, so these games are these games are important
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: for these guys playing Saturday.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, and they're important for the guys across the way.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Matt Dickerson. This time last year he was
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: on the opposite side.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: And we watched him and say, hey, we want to
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: go get that guy.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Nice guys, thanks so much, we appreciate it. Good luck
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: with the defensive tape. We'll take a break and come
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: back more of JAG's HQ after this quick time out
• 29:10
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• 29:15
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• 29:19
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• 29:22
  Speaker 3: and from Tony, and we'll talk more over the course
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: of the weekend. You've got the radio broadcast, I've got
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: the television broadcast. One guy that we haven't talked about
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: yet is Travis Hunter, who has had a tremendous training
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: camp so far, switching jerseys, going back and forth, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: at times looking like the best player on either side
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: of the ball.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's it's obviously there's a lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: of curiosity from everybody out there about what's the role
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: gonna look like. Is he gonna major on defense, minor
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: on offense? So some people would suggest, I've been one
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: of them. Does he need to a full time player
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: both ways? You know, And you're kind of hoping that
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: with this joint practice that they had today that maybe
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: you kind of get into a little a little more
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: of a glimpse into maybe, but you really know, you
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: really didn't get any indicator whatsoever. And I think it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: the curiosity factors is going to stay there all the
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: way until we actually see it, you know. And the
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: reality is is that, you know, typically this team plays
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: three wide receivers and they're not They don't play four
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: a lot, you know, it's just not their thing. And
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: so who comes off the field if Travis is on
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the field, you know. So the one thing I do
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: know when that guy is on defense, he is one
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: heck of a player. And the other thing that I
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: will add to that is that in practice? I have
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: seen that there's one guy that he's struggling with who Parker, Right,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: everyone's struggling, I would say struggling. I would say that
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Parker gets more space from from Travis than anybody does.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Is it because Travis knows he's got the ability to
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: turn and run.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Well and Parker does such a good job of making
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: a look like B or C. And so there's that
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: unknown factor in Travis Hunter or any defensive backs head
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: when they're trying to cover a Parker Washington because Parker
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: is a student of the route running game and he's
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: so good at it, and Travis Hunter typically has just
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: been able to not necessarily anticipate and he just uses
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: his speed to react instead of Okay, I think he's
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: going that way, so I'm gonna lean that way. Parker's
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: got the speed and the moves to be able to
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: gain separation in a big way. And it's a lot
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: of watching those two guys. I mean, it really is.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if you remember on this week
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: and what's today, Today's Thursday, that was Tuesday. There was
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: a moment to where Parker Washington got been behind Travis Hunter.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like wo That doesn't happen very often.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, let me ask you to interpret. You tell
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: me we got to take a break here in just
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: a moment. Do you think they have a specific plan
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: for Travis Hunter or do you think they're watching this
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: training camp, watching him go back and forth effortlessly and
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: evolving that plan as we go.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I think I think everything is in flux, and I
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: think they're they have something in mind. But I also
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: believe that what their eyes are going to show them
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: or tell them is kind of how they'll respond and
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: how they'll react as far as coaches go, and what
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: that role is on offensive defense. Now, the one thing
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: that I do know is that if if you look
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: at his role on defense, there's nobody on this defensive
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: roster that can touch him. And his level of play
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: is a corner nobody.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: His footwork is incredible, nobody.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, look, Montera can't play like him. Okay, Jarian
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: can't play like him. Nobody can play like him. Now
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: on offense, Parker can play like him. Yeah, and play
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: better than him. You're making a case, Okay, Uh, Jacoby Myers,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: that's really good hands and as savvy as all get
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: out in the middle. He can play better than Travis
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: at times. No bet j got that ability to get
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: deep and get behind people. Does Travis have that ability?
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Not like Brian, not with the height of the length,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that you know, they're just with that
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: common sense look at things. You got to sit there
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: and say, you gotta play a lot of defense, right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to and so we'll see. We're
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: gonna find out when we come back. I want to
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: stay on defense. I want to talking about Antonio Johnson.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: You're listening to JAG's HQ. I'm Brian Sexton along with
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Jeff Longoman, and we were returning right after this on
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Jaguars Radio.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back Jaggs HATESQ, presented by Fresh from Florida, continues
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Brian and Jeff with you from New Orleans where the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Jaguars practiced against the New Orleans Saints today. We've talked
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: about guys who flash. Guy who last year wore twenty
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: six and this year has dropped the two. He's just
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: wearing six is Antonio Johnson. And whenever they put a
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: player at the podium after practice, they're telling you this
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: guy is having a pretty good camp and this week
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson on Wednesday got up after the the practice
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: session was over, and I thought he did a really
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: good job explaining why he's so comfortable. What did you
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: see from him today? What have you seen from him
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: in this camp?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Jeff just real steady. He seems to find the ball.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna give a little credit here elsewhere too,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: because you know one thing about Antonio Johnson. You go
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: back to his performance two years ago and it was
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: not great. And I really believe that Eric Murray has
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: had a big influence on Antonio Johnson. I really do.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: And what I really like about what James and Tony
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and Liam have done is that what they've tried to
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: do is to have some type of veteran mentorship and
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: then also good level of play from that veteran in
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: every position group. And I think Eric Murray has been
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: one of those impactful guys that they brought in that
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: nobody's talking about, because I don't think Antonio Johnson's level
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: of play is where it was at last year without
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: the addition of Eric Murray in the back end to
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: help him out when it comes to getting lined up, communication,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: showing him how to be a pro. All of those
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: things are critical and I think have gone a long
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: way towards aideing Antonio Johnson and getting where he is.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: People may have heard them talk about him being a
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: guy that can move down and play nickel linebacker or
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: dime linebacker. What what what can he do beyond just
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: playing in coverage?
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: What does he bring?
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Is he well he's fit or not. I always say
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: he's pass rusher. I mean, very few defensive backs you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: can be anybody's but he's in a he's a he
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: is an effective pass rusher as a safety.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: You see him from time to time.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some guys that you know, you send them
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: on a blitz and you sit there and go there's
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: no chance they're gonna be pitter pattering and they're not
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: gonna be going full speed. Antonio Johnson going full.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: And he's tall and he's long, Yeah, and he's.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: And he's fast, and he's you know, he's bigger, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: so I think there's a factor there when he's approaching
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: running backs that there's a little bit better of a matchup.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: But he's just he can do so many different things.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: He can play nickel, he can play dime, He can
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: play safety, whether it's free or whether it's strong.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: He just he's just got great versatility. And to your
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: point about Eric Murray, a year ago, Antonio Johnson was
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: relegated to a special team Tames role. He was going
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: to be a fringe roster guy. He would have played
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: in Saturday afternoons game against the Saints a year ago,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: and this year he won't. So Eric Murray deserves a
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: lot of credit, so too does Antonio Johnson for the
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: job that he's done. A quick break for us here
• 37:16
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• 37:20
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• 37:27
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  Speaker 3: Fresh from Florida Brian and Jeff with you from New Orleans.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Ten more minutes left in our show. Hang another name
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: to throw at you because he has flashed during camp
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: and he flashed today, Big number ninety one, Eric Armstead.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: He's unblockable.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: And you wouldn't have said that in the past.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Look, you know I said this a little bit earlier,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: and I'll say it again. You know, a couple of
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: years ago, I thought it was a very disappointing performance
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: that he had in his first year with the team,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: and of course that was the year that you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: everybody was saying, is he an end?
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Is the tackle twenty twenty four?
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: What was the coach that you know, did the coach
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: want him at tackle? Did the coach want him an end?
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: You know, was he guaranteed anything? And signing? I mean,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: there was a big kind of conversation about all that,
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: and the reality was is that it just didn't work.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: And then last year when the season started, I think
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: there was a little bit of doubt as to you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: what his role would be, would he be an impactful player?
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: And then he played better. You know, he kind of
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: started out slow, kind of had a little back nagging back,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: and then once he got in there, he was doing
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: pretty good, and then he had an injury towards the
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: end of the year and wasn't quite the same. So
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: far in camp, he's been the best defensive player on
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: the roster well.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: And it's so important because we've talked all off season
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: about interior pass rush Jeff and what that would mean
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: to Josh heinz Allen and Trayvon Walker on the outside.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: With him the way he's playing, I don't know how
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: many snaps you want a twelve year veteran to take
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: over the course of a game, a month in the season,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: or the whole season. But if he's playing like that,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Treyvon Walker's.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Job is going to be much easier.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Trayvon and job, I mean everybody, I mean, you know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: and it makes it better for everybody. And the one
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: thing that you know, I think that they've got to
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: kind of figure out is the role for Eric Rpson.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: What's the best role? Okay? And I think first and
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: second down you'll probably see a little bit more with
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Matt Dickerson out there, because you know, he's kind of
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: that bruiser banger, you know, stopping the run powerful and
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: then when you get the second and sixth plus and
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: third down where it's a more pass heavy down, then
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: you got to put ninety one out there, and then
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: finding somebody to pair with him on the inside. Is
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: that Trayvon? Is that going to be you know, one
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: other defensive Matt Dickerson, I mean, and Matt Dickerson's not
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: a pass rusher, okay, you know, so I mean a
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: third down roll, that's really not going to be him,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: it would be somebody else. So who is that somebody
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: else gonna be? And if it's Trayvon kicking down, then okay,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: then who comes in first on the outside? Is it
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: bj Green? Is it Wesley Williams? Is it Durfy? Is
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: it Strigo? I mean you don't know. I think that
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: all that's like TBD to be determined.
• 40:21
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• 40:24
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• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back Jaggs HQ presented by Fresh from Florida continues
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: All right, let's wrap it up from the team Hotel
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: in New Orleans. Don't forget the Jaguars take on the Saints.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: The radio broadcast on ten ten XL and ninety two
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: point five get started. I'll have the first hour of
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the pregame show and that set one o'clock on Eastern
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon, Eastern time, and you'll have kickoff at four
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: o five and then I'll jump over with Bucky Brooks
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: and we'll have the television broadcast at four or five.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Right, that's on Fox Fox thirty. Right.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty pretty fired up too to have the only
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: road game that we have in the preseason and it's
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: a three o'clock Central, four o'clock Eastern time.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Kick Yeah, that's nice.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, how good is that?
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: I think that it would be noon?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, absolutely, But you know, here's the thing. One,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: it's in their condition environment, you know, in the dome, okay,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: which is nice. And then we should be able to
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: make it home by you know, eleven.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Ish, Yes, maybe midnight by the time you're getting in
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: your garden rolling back from the Miller Electric Center. But
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: still it sets you up beautifully for Rum for Sunday.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: We got two minutes left I tried to find and
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I couldn't get near Hi because there were so many
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: people that want to talk to Travis a chant And
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: the reason I wanted to find him.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Was E T I E N N E.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you come up with a chance?
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Why don't you tell us? Why didn't you tell us?
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's you know, some some guys
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: you know, go to a new place and they kind
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: of want to reinvent themselves a little bit.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, is it that he's coming off at fourteen
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: hundred yards and thirteen touchdowns? What do you need to reinvent?
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Well? Here, here's you know, every every time you go
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: to play a team, you always have a pronunciation guy
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: that you follow, right, Yeah, And the Nor Orleans Saints
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: have two guys and they're prominent guys on their football
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: team that the way their name is spelled doesn't come
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: close to the way it's pronal.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: Who's the other one? Oh? Shuck? Yeah, it's show.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: How do we get shuck out of show?
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Welcome to New Orleans.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Quirky, weird, funky and as one who was a guest,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: his name was Ross Jackson, who was on jag Zam
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: this morning, said we say things differently. We do that
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: to words here in New Orleans. We're gonna try not
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to do that to words on Saturday night. But if
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: the Zydaco band is playing the national anthem as they
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: did a year ago, I don't know.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I might be going looking for a pole voice somewhere.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Right I'm gonna try to find one night.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: That's the beautiful part about New Orleans, and it's the
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: beautiful part about the preseason.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Folks.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us here on jags HQ, and we're
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: back next Thursday night from the Miller Electric Center. Will
• 43:33
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• 43:36
  Speaker 3: the next edition of the show. We'll talk to you
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: on Saturday on TV radio and all the digital platforms.
• 43:42
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• 43:45
  Speaker 3: HQ here on the Jaguars Radio Network.