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This Generation Is Losing It's Humanity · Life TV now

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Speaker 1: You feel it. I feel it. Most of us feel it.
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Speaker 1: But it's hard to put our finger on exactly what
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Speaker 1: it is. Something about society is changing. The skills that
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Speaker 1: we learned, the traditions that we carried, the things one
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Speaker 1: generation passed to the next. Even the way we connect, create,
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Speaker 1: and think. Are we simply watching the world change or
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Speaker 1: are human beings beginning to lose something essential about who
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Speaker 1: we are? How long can humanity continue down this path
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Speaker 1: before we no longer recognize what we've become? And what
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Speaker 1: would it take to reclaim the human identity we're slowly
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Speaker 1: leaving behind? We're gonna talk about all this and more
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Speaker 1: right now. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Life TV Now,
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Speaker 1: where we unpack all matters of truth, faith, and freedom.
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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Artishorn. Today, I'm doing something a little bit different.
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Speaker 1: As I prayed, as I prepped, as I experienced life,
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Speaker 1: I couldn't shake that God wanted me to share something
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Speaker 1: very specific with you. And it was really hard to
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Speaker 1: put into words. What is this thing I'm feeling? What
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Speaker 1: is this thing I'm experiencing in society? Where does it lead?
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Speaker 1: What does it cost us as human beings? What are
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Speaker 1: we losing? Where do we end up? What is the
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Speaker 1: generation of my children coming up in going to look
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Speaker 1: like should the Lord tarry In 15 or 20 years,
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Speaker 1: and something's been bothering me. So if you guys will,
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Speaker 1: just indulge me for a minute. There's a couple of
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Speaker 1: things I want to get off my chest. And so
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Speaker 1: we're breaking format a little bit. Something is eating away
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Speaker 1: at me. If I opened up with technology is advancing,
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Speaker 1: you'd have people right away say, well, that's not clever.
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Speaker 1: You and your father and your mother, your family, Donna Howell.
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Speaker 1: all of the programs you've been doing in media for years,
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Speaker 1: your documentaries on the coming AI revolution, human enhancement, eugenics,
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Speaker 1: the idea that we have such hubris, that we could
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Speaker 1: improve on our own genetics from what God established through
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Speaker 1: our engineering of food and our medicinal applications of this
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Speaker 1: and that pharmakia. None of that is super clever. So
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Speaker 1: follow me for a minute, because this isn't just another
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Speaker 1: AI is bad, AI is good show. Technology is advancing
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Speaker 1: at a speed that humanity has never experienced before. That
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Speaker 1: is undeniable. And I want to say right at the onset,
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Speaker 1: I'm not anti-technology. I use it. I use technology. There
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Speaker 1: are good aspects to AI. There are some dangerous aspects
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Speaker 1: to AI. There are some incredible things coming from AI.
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Speaker 1: But what are we losing while we're gaining all of
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Speaker 1: this capability? Are we becoming technologically more capable while becoming
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Speaker 1: at the same time personally capable? less capable. Are we
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Speaker 1: creating a civilization that knows how to access virtually everything,
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Speaker 1: but at the same time knows how to do fewer
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Speaker 1: and fewer things for itself? Are you guys seeing this?
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Speaker 1: Kids having access to everything and yet knowing very little
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Speaker 1: about things. Humanity collectively can do more than ever before.
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Speaker 1: While an individual person increasingly needs to know how to
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Speaker 1: do less and less. Technology is taking over. We can
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Speaker 1: generate music with a push of a button without understanding music.
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Speaker 1: Navigate anywhere without knowing where we are. Get an answer
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Speaker 1: without knowing how to arrive at it. Is this making sense?
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Speaker 1: Capability is moving from the person to the tool. The
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Speaker 1: calculator does the mathematics. GPS does the navigation. The smartphone
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Speaker 1: remembers for us absolutely everything. AI increasingly thinks through problems
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Speaker 1: for us. But here's the question. What happens to the
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Speaker 1: capabilities of the human being using the tools? Does that
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Speaker 1: human increasingly become less and less capable, eventually becoming so
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Speaker 1: technology dependent that they are incapable of functioning as a
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Speaker 1: human being at all without it?
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Speaker 2: I think so.
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Speaker 1: Now, before we go any further, show of hands, how
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Speaker 1: many of you anticipate, oh, okay, he's doing the kids
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Speaker 1: these days, they don't know how good they have it.
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Speaker 1: We walked through the snow 40 miles. Is that what
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Speaker 1: you're thinking? Right?
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Because every generation complains about the one behind it. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's too easy. Children adapt. This is the catch. They
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Speaker 1: adapt to the world that adults build for them. We
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Speaker 1: handed these kids smartphones.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did.
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Speaker 1: Social media, algorithms designed to hold their attention, and now
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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. This is not an accusation against a generation.
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Speaker 1: It is a question about what kind of human beings
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Speaker 1: our civilization is producing. See, we used to inherit things.
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Speaker 1: How many of you remember this? Think about what used
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Speaker 1: to pass from one generation to the next. Grandpa knew
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Speaker 1: how to repair an engine. Grandma knew recipes nobody had
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Speaker 1: written down. Somebody knew the old hymns and the family stories.
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Speaker 1: They would tell these stories. They would pass this knowledge on.
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Speaker 1: Knowledge lived in people and people transmitted it to other people. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is why this became personal to me this week
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Speaker 1: because I was watching media on what's going on in
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Speaker 1: the guitar industry. We are not going to get into this.
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Speaker 1: But something continued to eat away at me in this
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Speaker 1: same vein of thought. And I'm like, yes, this is
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Speaker 1: happening not just with musicians. This is happening everywhere. But
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Speaker 1: I'm going to use the guitar as a quick example
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Speaker 1: because it resonates with me as a guitar player. The
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Speaker 1: guitar is an example of mastery. The blacksmith is an
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Speaker 1: example of craftsmanship. Grandma's recipe is an example of generational knowledge.
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Speaker 1: Working beside your father is an example of mentorship. Right.
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Speaker 1: Culture is what human beings hand to other human beings.
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Speaker 1: So what happens when the chain breaks? Think about crafts, instruments,
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Speaker 1: and traditions that once occupied much larger places in everyday culture. Now,
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Speaker 1: they're not necessarily extinct, but many have become specialized rather
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Speaker 1: than ordinary parts of everyday life. Could today's familiar skills
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Speaker 1: eventually become the same thing? Now, imagine a Stratocaster, and
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Speaker 1: if you're not familiar, the Stratocaster, when you think of guitar,
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Speaker 1: maybe we'll bring one up on the screen for you,
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Speaker 1: The Stratocaster is by far the most popular electric guitar
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Speaker 1: in the history of modern civilization. But imagine one hanging
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Speaker 1: in a museum generations from now, maybe not too far
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Speaker 1: off into the distant future, 20, 30, 40, 50 years,
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Speaker 1: hanging in a museum. And a kid recognizes it vaguely.
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Speaker 1: And he says, I think my great-grandfather used to play
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Speaker 1: whatever that thing is, or something to that effect. He
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Speaker 1: doesn't know how to tune it. He doesn't know how
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Speaker 1: to plug it in. He doesn't know where the on
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Speaker 1: or off switch is. It is no longer living knowledge.
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Speaker 1: It is an artifact. Now, let's take that concept beyond
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Speaker 1: just musical instruments. How much can a civilization forget? How
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Speaker 1: many generations does it take to lose a craft? What
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Speaker 1: happens when nobody teaches the next generation? Carpentry, mechanical repair, music,
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Speaker 1: family history, basic household skills. A civilization can possess more
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Speaker 1: information than any civilization in history while simultaneously losing embodied knowledge.
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Speaker 1: And another thing, since I'm on it, information is not knowledge. Wait,
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Speaker 1: what did he say? Information is not knowledge. And knowledge
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Speaker 1: is not mastery. This took me forever to kind of
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Speaker 1: unpack in my brain this week to try to make
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Speaker 1: it make sense what this thing is I'm feeling that
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Speaker 1: we're losing as human beings. I can watch a video
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Speaker 1: about welding. Bing. That doesn't make me a welder. I
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Speaker 1: can ask AI about music theory. That doesn't mean I'm
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Speaker 1: a musician. So we may be confusing access to human
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Speaker 1: knowledge with possession of human capability. Is this not a
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Speaker 1: devastating trend? Are you guys feeling this? Like you can't
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Speaker 1: quite put your finger on it and you just, you know,
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Speaker 1: and then somebody says, well, yeah, you know, but every
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Speaker 1: generation says, you know, you ran through the snow with
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Speaker 1: no shoes, right? If the machine can do everything for me,
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Speaker 1: what do I still need to know how to do?
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Speaker 1: And what happens when an entire generation begins answering, not
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Speaker 1: very much. Don't need to know very much. Now, before
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Speaker 1: you assume that I'm going where you think I'm going,
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Speaker 1: where AI is to blame for everything, I would say
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Speaker 1: that it is not entirely to blame for this problem,
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Speaker 1: but it is absolutely accelerating it. Dependence on technology, shorter
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Speaker 1: attention spans, less patience for difficult processes, and the expectation
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Speaker 1: of instant results were already developing 10, 20 years ago.
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Speaker 1: But AI puts all of that into overdrive. For the
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Speaker 1: first time, AI not only assists us doing the work,
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Speaker 1: it can literally do the work for us. It can
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Speaker 1: write the paper, create the artwork, solve the problem. And increasingly,
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Speaker 1: it could even do portions of the thinking. So what
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Speaker 1: happens when the machine doesn't merely give a child information
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Speaker 1: but begins performing the intellectual exercise we once required the
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Speaker 1: child to perform?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: What happens when convenience removes the very struggle that used
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Speaker 1: to develop ability? Wow. The concern isn't simply what AI
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Speaker 1: can do. The concern is what human beings may stop
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Speaker 1: learning to do because AI can do it for them.
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Speaker 1: If we eventually outsource memory, creativity, problem solving, and even
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Speaker 1: portions of our thinking to the machines, what uniquely human
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Speaker 1: abilities are we making sure survive the transition? Now, here's
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Speaker 1: a question. Maybe the struggle was the point. Maybe the
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Speaker 1: struggle was the point. So often we tend to think
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Speaker 1: of struggling or being slower about things as an inefficiency.
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Speaker 1: That's something we've got to erase, but maybe it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: Maybe practicing taught perseverance. Maybe repairing something taught problem solving.
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Speaker 1: Maybe being bored developed imagination. We see this in children
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Speaker 1: right now. We have to specifically structure a life around
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Speaker 1: making sure that children don't just have unmitigated access to
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Speaker 1: things like TV because they don't play outside anymore.
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Speaker 3: No, that's right.
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Speaker 1: They don't know how to play with action figures. You
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Speaker 1: give them a bicycle, they don't even know what to
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Speaker 1: do with it. You teach them to ride it and
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Speaker 1: they're bored with it in eight seconds. Yeah. Maybe the
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Speaker 1: process wasn't standing between us and the product. Maybe the
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Speaker 1: process was producing us. The table isn't the only thing
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Speaker 1: woodworking produces. It produces a carpenter. The song isn't the
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Speaker 1: only thing years of practice produce. They produce a musician.
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Speaker 1: Education isn't merely supposed to produce an answer, it's supposed
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Speaker 1: to produce a person capable of thinking. And there's something
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Speaker 1: else that I think we're losing, and that is the
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Speaker 1: human touch. You see, human beings aren't merely information processors.
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Speaker 1: We create, we struggle, we fail, we try again. We
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Speaker 1: teach one another and transmit stories, skills, and traditions. AI
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Speaker 1: can preserve enormous amounts of information, but can it replace
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Speaker 1: a grandfather teaching his grandson? Can it replace learning a
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Speaker 1: trade beside a master craftsman? Can it replace knowing this
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Speaker 1: is my family? This is what we did. This was
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Speaker 1: our heritage. This is where we came from. This is
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Speaker 1: what mom used to do. This is how dad used
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Speaker 1: to fix things. This is what they taught me. You see,
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Speaker 1: human civilization isn't simply information stored somewhere. Civilization depends on
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Speaker 1: human beings carrying knowledge and transmitting it to other human beings.
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Again, am I anti-technology? No, I
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Speaker 1: am not. Do I use technology? I'm using it now.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm using it to produce this content. So again,
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Speaker 1: I'm not anti-technology. AI can preserve heritage, digitize old documents,
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Speaker 1: preserve recordings, and make forgotten knowledge accessible again. It can
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Speaker 1: give a child access to knowledge previous generations could have
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Speaker 1: only dreamed about.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 1: Like that. Technology isn't necessarily destroying heritage. The danger is
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Speaker 1: allowing technology to become a substitute for inheriting, learning, practicing,
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Speaker 1: and doing.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: So some of you watching this program or maybe even
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Speaker 1: here live, you might be thinking, Joe, I could have
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Speaker 1: told you this two years ago. I'm being honest with you.
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Speaker 1: I have sensed a lot of things and I could
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Speaker 1: have said generic things about the rise of AI and
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Speaker 1: what it's doing to humanity and the disconnect between the
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Speaker 1: familial construct. I've even written about these things. But I
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Speaker 1: think right now I'm feeling it accelerate so quickly. And
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Speaker 1: there are dangers happening that are sobering me, even as
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Speaker 1: I look in my own children's eyes, the effort that
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Speaker 1: Catherine and I are putting into our own kids. And
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Speaker 1: so there are some upsides to this. If you're a
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Speaker 1: person that knows how to work, the world is probably
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Speaker 1: your oyster. Because one of the negative side effects is
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Speaker 1: a lot of young people coming up now, they don't
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Speaker 1: know how to work. They literally, and they are victims.
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Speaker 1: Or they see social media influencers and they want to
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Speaker 1: be a TikTok star. They think that's what work is.
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Speaker 1: They want people to just give them money.
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Speaker 3: So true.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? They don't know how to work.
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Speaker 1: So I guess one of the silver linings is if
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Speaker 1: you've taught your kids to work, they'll probably get employment.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I struggle to put all of
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Speaker 1: this into a framework that would help dump this off
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Speaker 1: my chest. Is any of this resonating or is it like, Joe,
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Speaker 1: you're the only one in the room that didn't figure
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Speaker 1: this out like 10 years ago? There's layers of this
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Speaker 1: that are just hitting me right now and it's bothering
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Speaker 1: me a lot.
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Speaker 3: No, that has actually been... a raging conversation in our
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Speaker 3: household because I have two teenage kids, a daughter and
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Speaker 3: a son. And my daughter wants to be an art teacher.
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Speaker 3: She loves the arts. She loves learning.
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Speaker 2: About art history.
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Speaker 3: And she is very anti-AI. And so she has shared
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Speaker 3: some of the experiences that she has had in school.
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Speaker 3: So for example, they'll have a group project. And in
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Speaker 3: her case, they made it a competition where different groups
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Speaker 3: were assigned different topics and then they had to present. Well,
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Speaker 3: she was so passionate and so excited. I think she
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Speaker 3: was doing Joan of Arc. I think they had to
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Speaker 3: do famous people from the past or something. And she
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Speaker 3: was so incredibly passionate about it. And she put all
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Speaker 3: this work into it and they worked as a group
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Speaker 3: and she refused to use AI on any of the slides.
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Speaker 3: Then she goes up to present and she's watching these
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Speaker 3: others as well. They have used chat GBT or other
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Speaker 3: AI to create the slides. So they're, Dynamic looking and
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Speaker 3: the bullet points are in depth. And here she just
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Speaker 3: Googled things and used her natural creative abilities to try
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Speaker 3: to decorate the slides. And her group lost because according
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Speaker 3: to the teacher, and I think there was another teacher
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Speaker 3: who came in as a guest judge, hers weren't as
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Speaker 3: exciting to look at as the other groups.
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Speaker 1: They told her that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just, they won their presentation.
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Speaker 1: Oh my word.
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Speaker 3: And so she cried. She was so incredibly heartbroken and
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Speaker 3: that really inspired her. She is, I know past generations,
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Speaker 3: it was like, oh, feminism. There's always something right with
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Speaker 3: each generation. They get really passionate about. Well, for her,
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Speaker 3: it is AI. We have even gotten into debates because
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Speaker 3: I use AI. I absolutely have looking up health things,
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Speaker 3: trying to discover things that maybe you won't find on
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Speaker 3: Google or even PubMed, things that are kind of hidden
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Speaker 3: among the stack and algorithms really keep it suppressed. So
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Speaker 3: sometimes I can put in something in chat and it
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Speaker 3: can crawl and find these things where then I can
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Speaker 3: click on it and go look at it and read
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Speaker 3: the study or whatever it is. And she was really
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Speaker 3: upset that I did that at all. And she was
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Speaker 3: talking about, are we losing our creative ability, our ability
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Speaker 3: to think? Well, in fact, yesterday she was in tears
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Speaker 3: because she said there were three different times in one
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Speaker 3: day where her teachers in high school were talking about
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Speaker 3: how they use AI to help them with lesson plans
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Speaker 3: or to create certain things. And she was so discouraged.
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Speaker 3: Are people losing their ability to use their brains and
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Speaker 3: come up with this stuff on their own? We've been
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Speaker 3: doing it for decades. It's created brilliant minds. brilliant artists.
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Speaker 3: And here we can just throw some type of instruction
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Speaker 3: or command into AI and it will create it for us.
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Speaker 3: And she is completely distraught. Now, on the other hand,
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Speaker 3: my son, who is a bit younger, he loves video
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Speaker 3: games and he is the one who probably would be
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Speaker 3: less likely to put in the effort and wants to
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Speaker 3: find the easier way out. He's more into the technology
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Speaker 3: and things like that, much more advanced than I am
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Speaker 3: in some aspects. When my son was younger, he would
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Speaker 3: do puzzles and different action figures and things like that.
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Speaker 3: And now as they're getting older and, you know, we're
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Speaker 3: coming into Christmas time, you start thinking about presents and
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Speaker 3: gifts and things like that. Well, like last year for Christmas,
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Speaker 3: we got our kids puzzles and little erector set type
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Speaker 3: things where they can build or create things.
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Speaker 2: And they played with it for like the.
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Speaker 3: Day, maybe two. And then it just went to the
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Speaker 3: bottom of their toy box or their closet and they
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Speaker 3: don't play with them anymore. There's other things they'd rather do.
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Speaker 3: They'd rather scroll on YouTube or play video games. And
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Speaker 3: it does worry me. And it has actually become a
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Speaker 3: very common topic in my house because like you said,
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Speaker 3: things are not being passed down. I don't know how
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Speaker 3: to can. I remember my mother canning. When I was
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Speaker 3: very young, she never taught me how to can. And
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Speaker 3: so I have to go to YouTube or something like
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Speaker 3: that to sit down and learn or find a mentor
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Speaker 3: or somebody to teach me.
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Speaker 1: Well, and I think when you're talking about AI, you
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Speaker 1: mentioned a minute ago that these brilliant creators came out
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Speaker 1: of a generation of having the technology that served their
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Speaker 1: fingertips so their imaginations can come up on a screen
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Speaker 1: and they can drag and drop and lower and raise
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Speaker 1: and darken and shadow. And they're creating.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So they're building on a screen what they see in
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Speaker 1: their head. Mm-hmm. Their mind's eye imagines a thing. Well,
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Speaker 1: now you just hit a button based on a text
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Speaker 1: prompt and it's like in one second or literally 30
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Speaker 1: seconds to 60 seconds, you've got this incredibly dynamic. Here's
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Speaker 1: the catch. And I don't hear anybody talking about this,
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Speaker 1: but AI, where do you think it gets its inspiration?
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Speaker 1: It is scouring the planet for what human beings have created,
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Speaker 1: both musically, artistically, et cetera, right? Storytelling, how it writes.
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Speaker 1: When you say make this more human, whatever. It is
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Speaker 1: scouring the planet for what human beings have created, through
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Speaker 1: their inspirational moments. And that is what it is reproducing.
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Speaker 1: So what happens in 10 years from now when human
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Speaker 1: beings haven't created hardly anything for it to draw its
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Speaker 1: inspiration from? Is it self-cannibalizing its own ideas? Would you
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Speaker 1: prompt for a song? Where does it get its musical inspiration?
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Speaker 1: Is it recycling its own? Is that what kids coming
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Speaker 1: up will think is music? So that things like AI
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Speaker 1: literally replace the human being and what music experience was
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Speaker 1: supposed to sound like? Is this making any sense?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We could probably do a whole program on this renaissance
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Speaker 1: that I think is probably going to come as a
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Speaker 1: side effect of this. You can already see young kids
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Speaker 1: today pushing back. Donna, I know that you've mentioned your
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Speaker 1: kids several times are like already sick to death of
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Speaker 1: fake AI stuff. They see fake AI, they're like, nope,
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Speaker 1: it's fake. They're wanting the imperfection of a guy who
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Speaker 1: slips on the guitar for a second. They're wanting the
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Speaker 1: imperfection of a singer that goes slightly out of key
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Speaker 1: because it's a real human being, right? There is a fatigue.
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Speaker 1: And you know why I think that is?
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Speaker 2: Perfection fatigue.
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Speaker 1: Perfection fatigue. Yeah. I think that that's because we're human
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Speaker 1: beings and we know innately without having to be told
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Speaker 1: that we're not perfect. There was only ever one that was,
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Speaker 1: and his name is Jesus Christ. We were meant to
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Speaker 1: be subservient to a creator. And as much as we
19:18
Speaker 1: don't like the answer to this, perfection after a while,
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Speaker 1: if it's done artificially, starts to creep us out. We
19:25
Speaker 1: get really tired of it. We miss the authenticity of
19:28
Speaker 1: going out to a restaurant and seeing a real human
19:30
Speaker 1: being play a saxophone. Right? We want to connect with
19:34
Speaker 1: his face. We want to see him look at the crowd.
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Speaker 1: Some person doing a comedic routine or doing a puppet
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Speaker 1: show or whatever. A real human being connection. So the
19:42
Speaker 1: kids coming up today, maybe they don't think they need
19:45
Speaker 1: that as much as they absolutely do, but I think
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Speaker 1: there's going to be some pushback. Do you agree, Donna?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know what gets me is as you
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Speaker 2: guys are both talking, I'm sitting here thinking, I can't
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Speaker 2: get my brain out of Hosea. I'm sitting here, you
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Speaker 2: said earlier that information is not the same as knowledge.
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Speaker 2: And I'm just sitting here going, Has it ever been
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Speaker 2: more true? The verse, my people perish for lack of knowledge.
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Speaker 2: We are like on a trajectory to perish by this.
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Speaker 2: And look, There's all these different– everybody wants to talk
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Speaker 2: about what is AI doing and will the robots take
20:24
Speaker 2: over and will we be expendable? Will we be disposable?
20:27
Speaker 2: There's all the literal AI bot type stuff, but the
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Speaker 2: human connection, what is this doing to absolutely shut down
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Speaker 2: the psychological development of our very brain that makes us human?
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Speaker 2: And what is the long-term effects of that? So you
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Speaker 2: take a child. All they want to eat is McDonald's.
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Speaker 2: All they want is the toys they want. You give
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Speaker 2: them whatever they want, instant gratification style. You know. We
20:51
Speaker 2: all know. This is not new. I didn't have to
20:53
Speaker 2: research this.
20:54
Speaker 1: We know.
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Speaker 2: Globally, it is a human thing that we know that
20:58
Speaker 2: is a spoiled, rotten child. If they get everything they
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Speaker 2: want in the instant that they ask for it, you've
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Speaker 2: broken them. Now you have to go through a very
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Speaker 2: long and very painful process, both for the child and
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Speaker 2: for the parent and for whoever the therapist is, to
21:13
Speaker 2: try to unglitch or unbreak the part of their brain
21:17
Speaker 2: that has been trained. If I want A, I get A.
21:20
Speaker 2: I get it right now. Look at any person in
21:23
Speaker 2: the world who has ever gotten everything they want. Here's
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Speaker 2: what the bots can't do. I don't care what they
21:29
Speaker 2: are programmed for. Here's what they cannot do. There's knowledge
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Speaker 2: and there's wisdom. They're not the same thing, but they
21:37
Speaker 2: cannot function without the other ever. When they do, they're defunct.
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Speaker 2: Something is counterfeit in it. I always say this, usually
21:45
Speaker 2: get to laugh, but it's pretty easy to follow. Knowledge
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Speaker 2: is knowing that tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing
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Speaker 2: not to put it in a fruit salad. You have
21:56
Speaker 2: to have both together or somebody is getting a really
21:59
Speaker 2: gross salad and in their life. So I'm looking at
22:03
Speaker 2: all these things you're talking about. My kids are the same, Jamie.
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Speaker 2: My kids are the same, and I'm so proud of
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Speaker 2: them that they are, that they're thinking outside the box. Now,
22:10
Speaker 2: let me tell you the good news. It's coming. That generation,
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Speaker 2: our kids, they are so sick of it. They are
22:17
Speaker 2: going to go after the human connection. Now, there are times... Yes,
22:23
Speaker 2: thank you. There are going to be times where that
22:26
Speaker 2: is going to be a painful connection to try to
22:28
Speaker 2: strive for. Some, not all, but but many children are
22:32
Speaker 2: going to have been raised so much on Digitech that
22:35
Speaker 2: by the time they're saying that this empty feeling inside,
22:39
Speaker 2: AI ain't feeding it, I'm getting everything I want in
22:41
Speaker 2: an instant, I didn't have to work for it, didn't
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Speaker 2: have to have an education, I cheated my way through
22:45
Speaker 2: medical school. By the way, your next doctor is cheating
22:49
Speaker 2: his way through medical school thanks to the AI bots.
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Speaker 3: That's true.
22:52
Speaker 2: This world is breaking itself in record-breaking pace, and right
22:57
Speaker 2: now there is a young generation... that is saying, no,
23:01
Speaker 2: I'm done. I want to hear the mistake. I want
23:03
Speaker 2: to see the actor that flubbed for a second and
23:06
Speaker 2: lost character. I want to see human beings something. And
23:10
Speaker 2: in that, they will go after the human connection again.
23:13
Speaker 2: There will be parts of that that is painful because
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Speaker 2: they won't know how to connect to other human beings
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Speaker 2: in the way that every generation. If you are over
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Speaker 2: the age of even 30, you already belong to a
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Speaker 2: generation that has had to, by default, Connect to other
23:29
Speaker 2: human beings. So when the young people come up and
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Speaker 2: they don't know how, we need you. You need to
23:35
Speaker 2: be the mentor of tomorrow. Please do not give up
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Speaker 2: on them. These young people are not going to communicate
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Speaker 2: the way that you want them to, but they're going
23:44
Speaker 2: to be starving for a true human connection. Don't give
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Speaker 2: up on them. You are the mentors of tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: I want to read something to you. Psalm 78, three
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Speaker 1: through seven, and this is the NLT. It says, stories
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Speaker 1: we have heard and known, stories our ancestors handed down
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Speaker 1: to us. We will not hide these truths from our children.
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Speaker 1: We will tell the next generation about the glorious deeds
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Speaker 1: of the Lord, about his power and his mighty wonders.
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Speaker 1: For he issued his laws to Jacob. He gave his
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Speaker 1: instructions to Israel. He commanded our ancestors to teach them
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Speaker 1: to their children so that the next generation might know them.
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Speaker 1: even the children not yet born, and they in turn
24:29
Speaker 1: will teach their own children. So each generation should set
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Speaker 1: its hope anew on God, not forgetting his glorious miracles
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Speaker 1: and obeying his commands. Our fathers told us, we tell
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Speaker 1: our children, our children tell their children. And scripture describes
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Speaker 1: a chain of generational transmission. Are you seeing this? One
24:50
Speaker 1: generation has a responsibility to deliberately hand something to the next. Now,
24:56
Speaker 1: Let's read something that contrasts that. Judges 2.10, and again
25:00
Speaker 1: from the NLT. It says, after that generation died, another
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Speaker 1: generation grew up who did not acknowledge the Lord or
25:08
Speaker 1: remember the mighty things he had done for Israel. So
25:12
Speaker 1: now you have a generation that demonstrates the opposite. The
25:15
Speaker 1: chain has broken. God's work hasn't changed, right? The history
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Speaker 1: hadn't disappeared, but the next generation didn't even know it.
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Speaker 1: Something can be true, valuable, and enormously important and still
25:30
Speaker 1: disappear from living memory if nobody passes it down. So
25:34
Speaker 1: as we close today's program, I want to leave you
25:36
Speaker 1: with some takeaways because we've talked about a lot and
25:39
Speaker 1: we could continue going on and on. I mean, this
25:40
Speaker 1: is a seven, eight, nine hour. We could go all
25:43
Speaker 1: the way to 20 part series on this, but I
25:45
Speaker 1: want to leave you with something helpful. So my instructions
25:49
Speaker 1: for you this week is to teach something. Teach something.
25:52
Speaker 1: Pass down a skill that you actually know. Maybe if
25:56
Speaker 1: you're a parent, let your kids struggle through something. My
25:59
Speaker 1: son right now, the church is in between children's pastors,
26:04
Speaker 1: so he's had to sit with Catherine and I in
26:06
Speaker 1: the main auditorium on Sunday mornings. He's pretty young for that.
26:11
Speaker 1: He doesn't latch on to all the theology that's coming
26:13
Speaker 1: out of Len the Sledgehammer Reimer, right? Okay, so he's
26:19
Speaker 1: telling me and mom, you know, on Sunday mornings, I
26:22
Speaker 1: don't want to go to church. How do I go
26:23
Speaker 1: to church? I don't want to go to church. And
26:26
Speaker 1: we just keep telling, son, you're coming to church. It's
26:29
Speaker 1: good for you to sit there. He cannot figure this out.
26:32
Speaker 1: He doesn't understand what is the benefit of me being
26:34
Speaker 1: bored for an hour. But again, maybe he's learning perseverance.
26:39
Speaker 1: Maybe he's learning patience. Maybe that time gate is teaching
26:43
Speaker 1: him that instant gratification isn't how real life works.
26:47
Speaker 2: You're talking about how young children, they need the process
26:52
Speaker 2: of learning in order to be able to comprehend and
26:56
Speaker 2: learn to think, but also without that process of learning
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Speaker 2: old school, without struggling through something and having to learn
27:03
Speaker 2: the piano and work on those chords every day and
27:06
Speaker 2: know you're not great because you're not Beethoven yet, you
27:08
Speaker 2: started yesterday, but in 10 years, you're Beethoven, whatever, that struggle,
27:13
Speaker 2: is the only way you get this dopamine high that
27:17
Speaker 2: we're chasing with everything else. The struggle is the only
27:20
Speaker 2: thing that gives you the award of achievement. Achievement does
27:24
Speaker 2: not come through instant gratification. You are short-circuiting the process
27:28
Speaker 2: of appreciating the very thing you did with your life
27:32
Speaker 2: if you can't struggle and go, I did it. Where's the,
27:36
Speaker 2: I did it, when everything is instant and everything is free.
27:39
Speaker 2: So don't short-circuit the process. Let the development be what
27:43
Speaker 2: God intended the human development to be.
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Speaker 1: So let your kids struggle healthfully through some obstacle, okay?
27:54
Speaker 1: Don't just remove all of the obstacles or hand them
27:57
Speaker 1: something that expedites the situation. Some abilities can only be
28:01
Speaker 1: developed through trying, failing and trying again. So how about
28:05
Speaker 1: tell a story? Think of one of your favorite memories
28:08
Speaker 1: or one of your saddest memories or something heavy. Find
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Speaker 1: somebody that you trust, maybe a family member, maybe a child,
28:14
Speaker 1: somebody that can handle what it is you want to
28:15
Speaker 1: share and talk with them about a good old day
28:19
Speaker 1: and tell them what it was like before technology. Tell
28:22
Speaker 1: them about grandpa on his whittling stick. And when they say,
28:25
Speaker 1: why are you telling me this? Tell them because you
28:27
Speaker 1: and I both need human connection this week. So we're
28:30
Speaker 1: stepping away from our cell phones. I'm going to tell
28:32
Speaker 1: you this story and you're going to hear me and
28:34
Speaker 1: you're going to learn patience through my story. I'm being
28:36
Speaker 1: a little facetious here. But as you listen to me talk,
28:40
Speaker 1: is this making sense? Yeah. Try to preserve your family history,
28:44
Speaker 1: the lessons and traditions that disappear if nobody passes them down.
28:48
Speaker 1: And let's start trying to recover things like mentorship. There's
28:51
Speaker 1: something profoundly human about one person saying to another, here,
28:55
Speaker 1: let me show you how to do this thing. I
28:57
Speaker 1: want to end on this one because I think it
28:59
Speaker 1: is probably the most important. Pass down the faith. Spread
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Speaker 1: the gospel in some way. And don't assume that the
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Speaker 1: next generation or the people around you inherently already know it. Well,
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Speaker 1: find somebody to connect with this week. Maybe pass down
30:44
Speaker 1: a story. Maybe teach a child a useful skill. We
30:48
Speaker 1: hope that you enjoyed today's program. We hope that you
30:50
Speaker 1: learned something. For everybody here in studio, Donna, Jamie, thank
30:53
Speaker 1: you so much for being here today. I'm Joe Artishorn.
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