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AEP problems and your calls · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: I want you to get up now. I want all
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  Speaker 1: of you to get up out of your chairs. I
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  Speaker 1: want you to get up right now and go to
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  Speaker 1: the window, open it and stick your head out and yell.
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  Speaker 1: I'm as mad as hell and I'm not tryna take
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  Speaker 1: this anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want you to.
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  Speaker 1: Get up right now, set up, go to your windows,
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  Speaker 1: open them and stick your head out and yell, I'm
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  Speaker 1: as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Stinkings have gonna change.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna take this anymore. Then we'll figure out
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  Speaker 1: what to do about the depression and the inflation and
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  Speaker 1: the oil crisis.
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  Speaker 2: But first, get.
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  Speaker 1: Up out of your chairs, clop of the window, stick
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  Speaker 1: your head out and yell and say, I'm as bad
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  Speaker 1: as hell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take this anymore.
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  Speaker 4: The difference between me and Howard Beal is that he
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  Speaker 4: lost it.
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  Speaker 1: He just lost it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not losing it. I'm just mad as hell. And
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  Speaker 4: it's been you in with me all day long. The hole, this, this,
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  Speaker 4: this the utility thing is really kicking me off. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I've made no secret about it. We've got to come
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  Speaker 4: up with the solution. That's where you come in. At
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  Speaker 4: eight two one nine eight six A two on WTV.
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  Speaker 4: There's got to be some sort of solution. Look, when
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  Speaker 4: when September eleventh happened and gasoline went up, you know,
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  Speaker 4: three dollars four dollars price gouging and the gas company
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  Speaker 4: gas stations charged with price gouging, why can that only
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  Speaker 4: be done with them? I understand there are stockholders in
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  Speaker 4: American Electric Power, I get it, I get it, But
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  Speaker 4: is it completely unreasonable to think, especially with the FCC
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  Speaker 4: overseeing stocks, especially when this uh, this proclivity we seem
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  Speaker 4: to have to to go after companies for price gouging,
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  Speaker 4: that there is not some middle ground that says, look,
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  Speaker 4: when you are making three times the profit this year
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  Speaker 4: that you made last year, getting a price increase for
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  Speaker 4: residences that are trying to keep the lights on and
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  Speaker 4: keep the house warm and keep the kids fed and
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  Speaker 4: keep everybody alive is probably a no.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: AAP has already said nationally. Was it three times from
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  Speaker 4: this time last year that their profit has increased in Ohio?
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  Speaker 4: I think it was in Ohio was two times. So
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  Speaker 4: you're making money. You got your wind farms going up,
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  Speaker 4: you got your soul of farms going up. Making the
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  Speaker 4: countryside just look like crap. As far as I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 4: You're giving sweetheart deals for supplying power to these data centers,
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  Speaker 4: some of which will suck down as much energy as
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  Speaker 4: a small town. But you want to raise our rates
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  Speaker 4: the people that need utilities to live. This is not
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  Speaker 4: like you know, putting a surcharge a luxury tax on
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  Speaker 4: a Mercedes. This is stuff you need to live. And
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  Speaker 4: the more I got to thinking about AEP, the more
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  Speaker 4: I got to think about, you know, the Columbus Sea
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  Speaker 4: of Columbus, like in many municipalities, owns your supply of water,
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  Speaker 4: and they've switched from quarterly billing now to monthly billing.
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  Speaker 4: And I haven't heard anybody say, uh, the monthly bill
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  Speaker 4: makes my outgo for water lower. Everybody has said exactly
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  Speaker 4: the opposite that I've talked to, paying more for stuff
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  Speaker 4: that falls from the sky because the city chooses to
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  Speaker 4: hold it hostage process and put some chemicals in it
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  Speaker 4: and then send it to your house. Then they allow companies,
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  Speaker 4: these third party companies, to charge even more. For people
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  Speaker 4: who are renting properties, you know they don't have to
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  Speaker 4: pay property tax, because oh yes they do. It's included
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  Speaker 4: their rent. Trust me, the landlord is raising the rent
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  Speaker 4: to accommodate the property taxes. And on top of that,
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  Speaker 4: they're allowing these companies to come in and put on
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  Speaker 4: these submeters so that the company you know, like Zach
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  Speaker 4: Attack Water supply buys the water from the city of
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  Speaker 4: Columbus and then charges the tenants for the water. And
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  Speaker 4: if they bought the water for a dollar, they're selling
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  Speaker 4: it to the tenants for a dollar seventy five. So
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  Speaker 4: you're paying even more for stuff that falls from the sky,
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  Speaker 4: is held hostage, treated with chemicals, and then supply to you.
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  Speaker 4: You need water to live. Water bills should not go
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  Speaker 4: up to pay for a bond package. You need water
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  Speaker 4: to live. Water should not be sent through a third
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  Speaker 4: party so that they can make profit on something the
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  Speaker 4: government controls. When you need it to live, they're absolutely
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  Speaker 4: should be away somehow, some way to come up with
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  Speaker 4: some sort of game plan that limits that limits the
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  Speaker 4: profit that can be made on utilities. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: they can't profit. I'm not saying the stockholders can't get
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  Speaker 4: a dividend. I'm saying, when you need it to live,
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  Speaker 4: as we've seen with prescription drugs, there should be a
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  Speaker 4: limit or maybe that's just me. That's again where you
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  Speaker 4: come in. You got a solution, you want to tell
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  Speaker 4: me I'm wrong? Feel free A two one nine eight
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  Speaker 4: eighty six eight two on WTV or eight hundred six'
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  Speaker 4: TEN Wtv And, ZACH i, MEAN i don't. Know do
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  Speaker 4: you know anybody that that you considered normal that would
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  Speaker 4: argue with Anything i'm?
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  Speaker 3: Saying though probably not except for if they're.
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  Speaker 4: Sort of extreme libertarians in their own, mind which that's
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  Speaker 4: some reality that really isn't. Possible but, no not, Really,
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  Speaker 4: well there are those youth libertarians that are more utopian
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  Speaker 4: than anything. Else, right other than, THAT i and AGAIN
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  Speaker 4: i don't have a problem with with. Stockholder you, know
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  Speaker 4: utilities have been investments. FOREVER i don't know who decided
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  Speaker 4: that was a good, idea but they've been investments for
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  Speaker 4: Even wally and The. Beef you, know they got one
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  Speaker 4: hundred dollars to invest And Ward cleaver tried to get
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  Speaker 4: him to invest it In Mayfield. Power they didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to invest. In they want a jet electro because that's
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  Speaker 4: What Eddie haskell said was a cool hip stock and
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  Speaker 4: and And Mayfield power and lights dependable. Boys but you've
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  Speaker 4: always been able to. INVEST i don't think it ever
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  Speaker 4: should have. Been BUT i can't go back in time
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  Speaker 4: and that so we are where we.
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  Speaker 2: Are it is what it.
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  Speaker 4: Is how best do we deal with? It because, if,
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  Speaker 4: honestly if you are not bothered by a company that
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  Speaker 4: provides life sustaining things saying we're making triple we've tripled
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  Speaker 4: our profits from last, year and we need you to
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  Speaker 4: still pay more for what we. Supply you AND i
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  Speaker 4: are not. FRIENDS i guarantee. It we will never be
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  Speaker 4: at the same barbecue. TOGETHER a two one ninety eight
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  Speaker 4: SIX a two ONE wtv and let's start them rolling, Here,
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  Speaker 4: mark you're on six ten DO WU tv at?
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  Speaker 3: Height, Hey, chuck how you doing? Tonight i'm a little.
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  Speaker 2: Tense, yeah me.
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  Speaker 3: Too I'm i'm a little exasperated. Myself this whole, thing
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  Speaker 3: with this utilities THE puco needs to go because ANYTIME
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  Speaker 3: ip cries for a rate, increase they're right on.
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  Speaker 4: Board, WELL i posted something On facebook about that, Today,
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  Speaker 4: MARK i find it. Interesting The Public Utilities commission Of,
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  Speaker 4: ohio an organization that allegedly exists to protect the interest
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  Speaker 4: of the. CONSUMERS i called. THEM i called, THEM i
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  Speaker 4: Said i'd like your public information, officer your media, liaison
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  Speaker 4: whoever speaks on behalf of the. Organization i'd like to
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  Speaker 4: get them on the. SHOW i need to talk with
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  Speaker 4: somebody about this that can hear What i'm saying and
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  Speaker 4: perhaps even offer some. Solutions they don't have anyone in that.
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  Speaker 4: Capacity how you represent the interest of the public and
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  Speaker 4: not have anybody that can come out and speak to the.
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  Speaker 3: Public, well it's obviously their. Patent the pockets of the
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  Speaker 3: power of the the, politicians you. Know And i'm, thinking
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  Speaker 3: you know the, water you know WHERE i. LIVE i
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  Speaker 3: live in a one bedroom. Apartment my electric bill every,
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  Speaker 3: month this is the budget ready for this one oh
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  Speaker 3: one a month.
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  Speaker 4: For a one bedroom Upon, yeah you got, bulbs got
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  Speaker 4: the hundred watt incandescent bulbs burning twenty four to seven in?
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  Speaker 2: There do you y?
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  Speaker 3: Know, NO i got those little those little l chipo
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  Speaker 3: babs that are whatever they're. Called but you, know And
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  Speaker 3: i'll have was a lamp and A tv or most
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  Speaker 3: of the, time you, know in the evening when the
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  Speaker 3: lamps light's gonna get. Stark BUT I i just think
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  Speaker 3: the P u C o needs to go that they
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  Speaker 3: are a. Joke and then you, know And i'm just,
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  Speaker 3: wondering is there a way to put a referendum on
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  Speaker 3: the ballot to get rid Of democrats but hold? Office,
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  Speaker 3: AGAIN i.
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  Speaker 4: DON'T i don't think you can do, That, Mark but
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  Speaker 4: you're probably not the only one that wonders. THAT i
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  Speaker 4: actually tagged by a way a couple of state legislators
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  Speaker 4: in my my post today that ran On facebook today
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  Speaker 4: because they need to get involved. Here they need to do,
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  Speaker 4: something especially when the P u C o doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: anyone that can come out and to the. Public what,
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  Speaker 4: then is your point of existing except to rubber stamp
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  Speaker 4: rate increase request from the? Utilities what are you?
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  Speaker 2: Doing?
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  Speaker 4: Speak? Marks talking about light, bulbs that's something. Else the
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  Speaker 4: ap os me money for that con they pulled on
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  Speaker 4: us fifteen years ago or. So remember compact fluorescent light.
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  Speaker 4: Bulbs those were gonna lower our electric. Bills SO i
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  Speaker 4: bought a bunch of, them put them in the. House
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  Speaker 4: my bill went. Up they didn't save, Money they used more.
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  Speaker 4: Electricity it wasn't until led bulbs came out THAT i
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  Speaker 4: finally lowered the electricity consumption while not living in the.
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  Speaker 4: DARK a two one nine eight eighty six the Number
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  Speaker 4: gary you're on six TO. Tenatvn, hey how.
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  Speaker 2: You doing today other than being a little bit, mad
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  Speaker 2: just just a tad. Bit get hear in your. VOICE
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  Speaker 2: i think you, Know i'm not going to disagree with
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  Speaker 2: any anything you're. SAYING i, MEAN i agree with probably
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  Speaker 2: just about all of. It BUT i would say, THAT i,
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  Speaker 2: mean this is just more proof of why government needs
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  Speaker 2: to get out of the business of providing any services like,
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  Speaker 2: that because there are very few things the government, does
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  Speaker 2: very very few things the government does that you can
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  Speaker 2: say they do better than private. INDUSTRY i, mean in
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  Speaker 2: case in, point if you look throughout, history the real
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  Speaker 2: history of building of the railroads or, telecommunications AND i,
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  Speaker 2: mean as a perfect example here recently in our, LIFETIME
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  Speaker 2: i would say within the. PAST i don't know how
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  Speaker 2: many years Was, Flint michigan and the water they problem
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  Speaker 2: they had up. There did any government, official government agency
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  Speaker 2: person get fired over something like. That maybe somebody may
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  Speaker 2: have lost their job who was running for an. OFFICE
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  Speaker 2: i don't even recall that.
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  Speaker 4: Happening and you're talking you're talking about, water, right go,
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  Speaker 4: Ahead i'm, SORRY i, said you're talking specifically about. Water,
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  Speaker 4: yeah the water With.
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  Speaker 2: Flint you know when that. Happened did anybody lose their
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  Speaker 2: job over?
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  Speaker 4: That and AS i understand that there's a there's a
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  Speaker 4: town In, OHIO i forget the name of, it but
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  Speaker 4: where they've gone for a long period of time without
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  Speaker 4: having drinkable water as, Well jax And missus said the, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That Over liverpool because of the accident that was over.
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  Speaker 2: THERE i believe over in that.
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  Speaker 4: AREA i don't know. What i'll look it up during the.
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  Speaker 4: BREAK i can't remember the name of the, town BUT i,
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  Speaker 4: mean you know the water. Supply, Again here's what they.
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  Speaker 4: Do they go to the voters and, say we need
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  Speaker 4: you to pass this bond. Issue this is not a.
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  Speaker 4: Tax the thing of it is is anything that is
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  Speaker 4: city controlled then is going to go up to pay
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  Speaker 4: for that bond. Issue because a bond issue is nothing but.
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  Speaker 4: Alone you're co signing alone when you approve a bond.
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  Speaker 4: Issue but we're not going to raise your. Taxes what
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  Speaker 4: we are going to do is raise your water, bill
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  Speaker 4: raise your sewer, bill raise the cost of parking meters,
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  Speaker 4: downtown raise the fees for things you have to pay
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  Speaker 4: the city for. That we're going to get this. Money
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  Speaker 4: we're just not going to raise your. Taxes water should
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  Speaker 4: not be held hostage in situations like.
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  Speaker 2: That, NO i, AGREE i, SAID i think the ultimate
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  Speaker 2: answer to those types of things is the government just
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  Speaker 2: needs to not be involved in providing those. Services because
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  Speaker 2: AGAIN i, feel and maybe you would agree and not,
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  Speaker 2: agree that private industry in almost every situation can provide
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  Speaker 2: better services on that because if an Act, Flint michigan
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  Speaker 2: happens to a private people go to. Jail you, know
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  Speaker 2: people lose their, jobs whatever happens to. It but nothing
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  Speaker 2: happens when it's. Government when they mess up, something they
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  Speaker 2: number one hardly, ever you, know fix it without An
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  Speaker 2: act Of, congress sometimes literally An act Of. Congress BUT
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  Speaker 2: i think, that you, know that's just. ME i just,
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  Speaker 2: think you, know if government got out of business of
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  Speaker 2: having anything to do with, water and we got our
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  Speaker 2: water through you, know towns and villages and stuff got
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  Speaker 2: their water directly through private industry providing, it it would
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  Speaker 2: be way better than having a government because very few
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  Speaker 2: things they do, Ever.
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  Speaker 4: Good, GARY i would agree with you generally private industry is,
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  Speaker 4: better but it's gonna be. Regulated private. Industry that's What
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  Speaker 4: i'm saying about the electric, bill that's What and you,
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  Speaker 4: know natural gas that comes into play. Too we have
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  Speaker 4: hundreds of years of natural. Gas well how do you
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  Speaker 4: have hundreds of years of natural? Gas and then that
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  Speaker 4: bill goes. Up look, Man I'm i'm not against. Profit
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  Speaker 4: i'm a. CAPITALIST i am against obscene, profit especially when
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  Speaker 4: that profit comes from things you need to. Exist we've
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  Speaker 4: got to get this under. Control this is. Wrong this
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  Speaker 4: is it smells, wrong looks. Wrong is.
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  Speaker 2: Wrong