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Furniture Revival with Patty Brummel · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Well, good morning, everybody. Happy weekend here listening to the
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  Speaker 1: repcol Light Home improvement show was sponsored by Benjamin Moore.
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  Speaker 1: And this week I want to start with something that
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  Speaker 1: absolutely made my week. I mean absolutely made my week.
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  Speaker 1: I got a phone call from an old friend. Now
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  Speaker 1: I worked with her for years. When I say old,
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  Speaker 1: she's old. It's not like I've known her forever. I have,
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  Speaker 1: But she was old when I first met her. So
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  Speaker 1: old friend in every sense of the word, I love
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  Speaker 1: her dearly. I got a call from her. I worked
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  Speaker 1: with her at Repcolite. She retired, you know, probably during
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  Speaker 1: COVID time something like that. Anyway, anyway, she called and
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  Speaker 1: we were talking, and she told me that she was
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  Speaker 1: really upset about something and she was debating going back
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  Speaker 1: to a particular store with this item. Now, I ask,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what's the deal, what's the deal? What is
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  Speaker 1: going on that's making you this upset? And what needed
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  Speaker 1: to be returned? You know what didn't live up to
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  Speaker 1: your standards? Do you know what it was? I would
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  Speaker 1: love you to guess what you think it was. I
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  Speaker 1: bet if you made a thousand guesses, you would never
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  Speaker 1: get it right. It's toilet paper. I about fell over
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  Speaker 1: when she told me that she got a six pack
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  Speaker 1: of toilet paper, it's down to three and a half
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  Speaker 1: rolls and they're all see through, right, you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: all see through. She hates this stuff. I love the
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  Speaker 1: idea of her driving, you know, to the store with
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  Speaker 1: her partial pack of toilet paper and demanding her money back.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So I'm envisioning that as she's talking to me,
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  Speaker 1: because she's thinking about going back to the store, and
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  Speaker 1: before I even know how to you know, what to
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  Speaker 1: say to that, because she's asking my advice. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what to say. But before I could even get
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  Speaker 1: to making a recommendation, she goes on to say that
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  Speaker 1: she called them to complain. I said, you're kidding me.
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  Speaker 1: You called the store to complain about the toilet paper?
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  Speaker 1: She did. She told the person on the phone how
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  Speaker 1: bad this toilet paper was. She told her how thin
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  Speaker 1: it was, and she was descriptive. I mean, I really descriptive.
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  Speaker 1: I won't be as descriptive as she was. She told
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  Speaker 1: this poor lady on the phone all of those things,
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  Speaker 1: and the lady on the phone, you know, rather than
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  Speaker 1: just hanging up. I mean, this is probably really good training,
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  Speaker 1: good customer service because rather than hanging up, the lady
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  Speaker 1: told her, oh no, no, this happens. This happens. You
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  Speaker 1: just got to work your way through the role. You
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  Speaker 1: know what happens all the time. It's the toilet paper machines,
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  Speaker 1: the outer layers, they're always thinner. You just gotta get
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  Speaker 1: your way into that role. And that stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: thickens right up. You know, all the plies come together
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  Speaker 1: and all of that. It's gonna be great. Just keep
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  Speaker 1: working through the working through the role. That's what she
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  Speaker 1: told my friend. Well, my friend, of course, she's not
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  Speaker 1: taking any of that, not at all. She's already halfway
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  Speaker 1: into multiple roles and it's thin all the way through. Well,
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  Speaker 1: at that point, you would think the customer service person
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  Speaker 1: on the phone would surrender, right, you would figure she
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  Speaker 1: was cornered, But no, she had more suggestions. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this toilet paper troubleshooter was really doing a good job,
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  Speaker 1: and she wondered if perhaps my friend had accidentally separated
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  Speaker 1: the two plies. You know, you bought two ply paper.
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  Speaker 1: Did you separate the two plies and now you're just
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  Speaker 1: continually unrolling a single ply? You know, that's why it
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  Speaker 1: could be thinner. Now, on the downside, you got to
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  Speaker 1: deal with that. But on the upside, you just doubled
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  Speaker 1: the productivity of that particular role, you know. So if
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  Speaker 1: you could continue to do that, if you can live
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  Speaker 1: with the thin, you're gonna get twice the distance out
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  Speaker 1: of the paper. Well, my friend cannot live with the thin.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know what she's gonna do. She dealt
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  Speaker 1: with that phone call, finished it and hung up, and
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  Speaker 1: now she's, you know, called me to find out should
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  Speaker 1: she go back to the to the store and bring
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  Speaker 1: her toilet paper in. You know, a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: at Repollite, we've been on the phone, you know, troubleshooting
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  Speaker 1: issues before, paint tissues. You know, somebody's handling a weird
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  Speaker 1: paint situation. They don't know how to how to work
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  Speaker 1: through something, or they're not sure how our product works,
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  Speaker 1: and we've talked them through that. But I never in
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  Speaker 1: a million years dreamed that people in the world, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on a given day, were potentially troubleshooting toilet paper problems.
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  Speaker 1: That was completely new to me, and I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I loved that idea. You know, I told my friend,
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  Speaker 1: if she does bring that toilet paper back, she's got
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  Speaker 1: to bring somebody with her to record, you know, video
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  Speaker 1: record the interaction. I want to see it and I
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  Speaker 1: want to share it everywhere. Anyway, I was laughing about that,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought that was, you know, that the tip
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  Speaker 1: of the iceberg. You know, we had accomplished the funniest
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  Speaker 1: thing we could talk about, and that was about it.
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  Speaker 1: But it turns out no, she had more. As we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about returning the toilet paper, she gets really
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  Speaker 1: serious and tells me about this toilet seat once that
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  Speaker 1: she bought when her kids were younger, you know, her
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  Speaker 1: as were younger, And she tells me it said right
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  Speaker 1: on the box that this toilet seat was going to
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  Speaker 1: last ten years. You can see where this is going, right,
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  Speaker 1: I said, please tell me more. I'm intrigued, incredibly intrigued.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to know about what happens with this
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  Speaker 1: toilet seat that was supposed to last ten years. Well,
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  Speaker 1: just as you'd expect, the toilet seat served its purpose.
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  Speaker 1: It did its job admirably for a few years, and
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  Speaker 1: then one of the kids got to rough housing. I
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  Speaker 1: love that old term rough housing, right, horseplay. I got
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  Speaker 1: a detention once, I got some attention, and then a
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  Speaker 1: detention because of horse play in middle school. The principal
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  Speaker 1: literally wrote horse play as the reason on my detention slip,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it saved me getting in trouble because
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  Speaker 1: Dad thought that was such a ridiculous reason for a detention. Anyway, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: horse play rough housing. The kids got to rough housing
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  Speaker 1: in the bathroom. I don't know what that looks like,
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  Speaker 1: but somehow things got real in there, and the toilet
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  Speaker 1: seat broke. You know, a ten year warranty on the
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  Speaker 1: toilet seat, and that sucker's broken in three years. Well,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you know what she did. She unscrewed it,
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  Speaker 1: drove straight to the store and demanded a new toilet seat. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: customer service and retail work. It's not always glamorous, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Those were certainly not glamorous moments for those poor people.
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  Speaker 1: But it's usually not boring, you know, there's always something
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  Speaker 1: going on. Anyway, enough of that. I just had so
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  Speaker 1: much fun with that story I wanted to share it
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Today, I'm going to be in the
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  Speaker 1: studio with Patty Brummel. Now, Patty's a furniture refinisher and
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  Speaker 1: a regular listener and she does all kinds of work
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram. And Facebook under her company name Midlife Revival.
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  Speaker 1: She's going to be joining me and we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: talking about all kinds of things, from home projects to
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  Speaker 1: favorite paints, to what makes a particular piece of furniture
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  Speaker 1: and absolute no go when it comes to buying and
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  Speaker 1: refinishing it. All of that, all of that is coming
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  Speaker 1: up and much more. But right now, since we started
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  Speaker 1: talking about fun little retail adventures, and since I don't
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  Speaker 1: When we come back, I'll be talking with furniture refinisher
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  Speaker 1: Patty Brummel, So stick around for that and we're back.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to the Repco Light Home improvement show sponsored
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  Speaker 1: by Benjamin Moore. And right now I'm pretty excited to
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  Speaker 1: share an interview that I recorded with Patty Brummel from
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  Speaker 1: Midlife Revival. Patty's a furniture refinisher and she shares her
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  Speaker 1: projects and her insights and all of that on social
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  Speaker 1: media Instagram, Facebook, amongst others. She's a lifelong learner. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna discover that very quickly in this interview. She started
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  Speaker 1: a brand new career, you know, at the midway point
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  Speaker 1: in life. And most importantly, most importantly, she listens to
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  Speaker 1: this show. You know, I didn't clarify any of this
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  Speaker 1: questions for another day. Anyway, I sat down with Patty
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  Speaker 1: recently and I recorded a long conversation about her journey.
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  Speaker 1: You know, how she got started, How she tackles. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it gets the gumption to tackle these huge projects. And
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  Speaker 1: you're going to hear about some huge projects, and we
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  Speaker 1: talked about all of those things. Right now, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: that's enough of that, enough blathering. Let's get to the
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  Speaker 1: interview with Patty Brummel. You spent years from what I'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, from notes you sent me as a registered nurse,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm curious, how in the world did you get
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  Speaker 1: from I mean, I'm a registered nurse to now I'm
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  Speaker 1: refinishing furniture as a business, right, yeah, yeah, how that
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  Speaker 1: all happen?
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  Speaker 2: Some days, I don't know how it happened, but Lord Willing,
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  Speaker 2: it just kept growing. It's definitely been a journey, but
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  Speaker 2: I would say the just to get down to making
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  Speaker 2: it short and sweet back in twenty twelve, so a
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  Speaker 2: little over twelve years ago, I should back it up.
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  Speaker 2: I have I'm married, and I have three daughters. So
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  Speaker 2: the two daughters back in twenty twelve are twins, and
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  Speaker 2: they were just graduated from college and they were moving
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  Speaker 2: out of the house and into their own places. And
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  Speaker 2: at that point, it was like, you know, furnishing, let's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, use hand me downs from the family. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go looking around thrift stores, you know, antique stores. And
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  Speaker 2: so that's what we did. And it was fall of
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  Speaker 2: twenty twelve, I could still remember, and we went to
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  Speaker 2: just a small little place in downtown Zealand. And at
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  Speaker 2: that time, I don't know if you remember this. I
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  Speaker 2: mean you're in the paint industry, but chalk paint was
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  Speaker 2: really becoming a very popular thing for refinishing furniture and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. That was short lived for me as
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  Speaker 2: far as the chalk paint, but it made me think
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  Speaker 2: because the girls would say, can you do something with this, mom?
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  Speaker 2: So it doesn't look like you know this? So I
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  Speaker 2: took a class this place. This place, there was a
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  Speaker 2: vendor that was selling this chalk paint and she was
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  Speaker 2: going to have a class coming really up close. So
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  Speaker 2: I took it and just learned some basics, and from
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  Speaker 2: there I just started, you know, refinishing, like an end
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  Speaker 2: table for them, or just trying to think there was
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  Speaker 2: a little desk or coffee table, those kind of things.
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  Speaker 2: And I look at back at those things and I
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  Speaker 2: cringe at.
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  Speaker 1: The look of them. Yes, okay, so they still have them,
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  Speaker 1: so you can.
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  Speaker 2: Well, not all of them, some of them I updated
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  Speaker 2: later as I got better. The thing with chalk paint,
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  Speaker 2: if you've ever used it, is it It doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a really nice finish. You know, it has a bumpiness.
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  Speaker 2: And back then it was promoting, oh, you don't need
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  Speaker 2: to sand, you don't need to prime, you know, all
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  Speaker 2: these things. So of course, like someone had maybe painted
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  Speaker 2: this piece they found, my daughters had found, and so
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to sand dead, I don't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just paint right over that, not knowing that whatever
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  Speaker 2: texture was already there.
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  Speaker 1: Was going to be what I was gonna all of that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, no, no, And I have totally gone away
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  Speaker 2: from that. Yes you need primer, you know, there is
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  Speaker 2: self leveling and stuff like that. But now I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of to the point where I don't like to be
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  Speaker 2: limited by the colors of justice those paint lines, and
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  Speaker 2: that's where I frequent you know, Repcolite, and I love
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  Speaker 2: some of the Benjamin Moore products that can be used
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  Speaker 2: for furniture as well. But so back to the story,
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  Speaker 2: I yeah, just that's how it started.
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  Speaker 1: So you're helping them, helping them, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then well then it was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: maybe do some things around my house. And then it
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  Speaker 2: was a couple of years later my kids were like,
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  Speaker 2: I never was like on Facebook or anything, and I
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  Speaker 2: just they were like, Mom, you really should start showing
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  Speaker 2: some of this stuff. So they helped me set up
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  Speaker 2: a Facebook page.
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  Speaker 1: So you were doing it more than just for yourself
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  Speaker 1: a little bit here and there or Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I still was just that it was just a hobby.
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  Speaker 2: It was in my garage. I liked it, and it
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  Speaker 2: was because being a registered nurse, it was just therapeutic
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  Speaker 2: just to be able to go dabbling something. And even
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  Speaker 2: to this day, I don't feel like it's work when
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  Speaker 2: I work on my furniture. That was what was just
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  Speaker 2: so good about it was that it was something so
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  Speaker 2: different and I could just.
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  Speaker 1: Why was it therapeutic? Do you think I mean, is
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  Speaker 1: it just well kind of check out because.
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  Speaker 2: Just as a nurse, it's just very stressful, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and to me, that's real work. You know. My last
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  Speaker 2: job that I ended up leaving to do this full
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  Speaker 2: time was working in a doctor's office, so it was
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  Speaker 2: more like phone triage and you get a lot of
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  Speaker 2: unhappy people who call in sometimes, you know, and it
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  Speaker 2: was yeah, it definitely it takes a toll on you.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's how it started. And then it just
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  Speaker 2: once I started the Facebook page and you know, people
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  Speaker 2: started to see it and some of my coworkers were like,
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  Speaker 2: would you ever think about doing something for me? I
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  Speaker 2: have something? And so that's how it evolved into what
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  Speaker 2: it is today. Is just word of mouth and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that, and it's gone much further than that.
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  Speaker 1: But that's really really cool. Yeah, So how much did
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  Speaker 1: you know about it? I mean when you started with
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  Speaker 1: your daughters, I mean you kind of said some of
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  Speaker 1: that it was it was new to you. You hadn't
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  Speaker 1: done a lot of it. Yeah, you jumped in. And
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  Speaker 1: how comfortable were you with things like that?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not real comfortable. I mean I had I had
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  Speaker 2: painted at your home piece or so, and I definitely
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  Speaker 2: had painted walls. Yeah, but back then, I mean I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know when, like YouTube and Google really came
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  Speaker 2: on as a thing. But then you didn't go and
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  Speaker 2: google or YouTube how to do this like you can nowadays.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a lot of just trial and ear.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I eventually took my Facebook page and
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  Speaker 2: decided I would also do an Instagram page, that is
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  Speaker 2: where the world just opened up to me to know
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  Speaker 2: there were so yes, okay, that there were so many
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  Speaker 2: other furniture refinishers out there. I mean not to the
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  Speaker 2: point there are today. It's just crazy. A lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like, came onto it when they were hunkered
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  Speaker 2: down during COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, COVID. So you decide you're gonna quit me in
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  Speaker 1: a nurse, yeah, and go into that was that scary.
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  Speaker 2: It was very scary. I had to convince my husband
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  Speaker 2: first of all, Tim seeing how passionate I was about
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  Speaker 2: what I was doing, and it was just getting to
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  Speaker 2: the point where I had a little booth I was
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  Speaker 2: renting in Hudsonville, so I was trying to keep that
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  Speaker 2: stocked with small home decor and some of my painted furniture,
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  Speaker 2: using that as an avenue for advertising if someone came in,
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  Speaker 2: which it did help, and I had business cards there
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  Speaker 2: and they could, you know, just grab one of those
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  Speaker 2: and I got contacts through that.
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  Speaker 1: And then you still refinishing largely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I'm still working as a nurse in
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  Speaker 2: phone triage, and then I've got some custom work on
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  Speaker 2: the side. So I was I was feeling very pulled
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  Speaker 2: with these three different things, plus being a mom and
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  Speaker 2: a wife and all that. So he saw how passionate
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  Speaker 2: again I was about it, and it wasn't like it
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  Speaker 2: was just this little flighty hobby for just a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and he could see that I could make money off
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  Speaker 2: of this, so yeah, yeah, I basically put my notice
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  Speaker 2: in early twenty seventeen. They had to find a replacement
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  Speaker 2: for me, and I said, you know what, I'll stay
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  Speaker 2: on until you find someone, which ended up being about
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  Speaker 2: six seven months before they found something. Yeah, because then
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  Speaker 2: you have to train the person. And so right at
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  Speaker 2: the end of twenty seventeen, I hung up my stethoscope,
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  Speaker 2: as I say, and how.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel about all of that? Set the right decision.
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  Speaker 2: I It was scary, but I have no regrets. It
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  Speaker 2: has just been a wonderful ride. I appreciate my husband
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  Speaker 2: letting me do it, and yeah, I couldn't do it
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  Speaker 2: if it weren't for him, you know, letting me let go.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like I said, it has just opened so
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: many doors and it's just been a fun journey. And again,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I was like approaching the fifty year mark at that time.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: And that's the name for my company. I named it
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Midlife Revival because it was my midlife. I think it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: really midlife at fifty. Some people say forty. I heard
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the other day.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: But thought it was twenty four. Oh, I'm passed.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So and then, you know, reviving myself, you know, by
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: doing something different in life and not feeling like I
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: always had to be a nurse, and you know, as
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the kids got older, they don't need you as much,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: and so kind of just finding something to occupy my
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: time when they were out of the house. And then
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I like to take that midlife revival and also bring
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: it to my furniture and you know, they've lived, Yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: they've lived. They lived one life just like me, and
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: now they're going to live another life and they're being revived.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: So it's it's a twofold reason I picked that name.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: That's a great name. All right, we're gonna take a
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: quick break and when we come back, I've got more
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of Patty's story. That's all coming up next and stick around.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome back here, listening to the Rep Coolite Home improvement
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: show sponsored by Benjamin Moore, and I want to jump
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: back in to my interview with Patty Brummel from Midlife Revival.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And if you want to check out Patty's work while
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you listen, you can find her on Instagram and Facebook
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: by searching mid Dash Life Revival, Midlife Revival, Little Dash
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: in between mid and Life. You can find her there,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: so check that out. A lot of stuff on her
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: page that's probably going to be very interesting to scroll
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: through as you're listening. And remember what you are hearing
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: on the radio here and in this podcast is just
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a small portion of the full interview. If you want
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to catch the whole thing and watch it in glorious video,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's anything better than that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: If you want to catch it on video, just head
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to Repolit's YouTube page and check it out. But right now,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: let's get back to the conversation. You know, what's going
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: through your mind as you assess is this piece, something
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that you can do something with, something that I should
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: just leave here.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I have a certain style furniture that I like.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who are really into the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: mid Century. I lived the mid century, so for me,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that's really not my thing. I love more the early
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds or even older. I'm not a huge Victorian,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: but I do like the dressers and you know, stuff
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: from this early nineteen hundreds. But yeah, I do. I
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: have a problem with Facebook Marketplace.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, Facebook Marketplace. I always forget about that one.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love estate sales, but you have to learn
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to be wise with that what is well because the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: prices can be really high on the first day. So
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I've tried to educate people on this that estate sales
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: normally it's a two day or a three day thing.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: So the first day will be full price, the second
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: day will be maybe thirty percent off, and then the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: third day will be fifty percent or if it's only
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: a two day, they go to fifty percent, like after
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: twelve o'clock in the afternoon on the second day. If
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: it's something that you could live without, but you're like, oh,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I would like that, I will go check it out.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: On the first day, see what the price is. If
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, that's a little too much, and I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: can walk away. If it doesn't it's not there. The
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: next day, I'll do it. But I have gotten a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: lot of things by just coming back the second day.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And some of the estate companies will even have
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: what they call like a like a silent auction thing
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: where they'll have a box there and as long as
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: you do half of the price plus one dollar, they'll
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: call you. So like, yeah, I've done that where I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: just do half of the price and I add one
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: dollar to it or two dollars, and I've gotten a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: lot of calls back on that. And then you don't
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: really have to come back immediately the next day right
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: away to see if it's there. They just call you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and say at the end of the first day or
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: second day, hey, your bid was the highest. If you
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: like it, you can come anytime on this day, before
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: this time or whatever.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: When you look at a piece, what are you assessed?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You know, to make sure that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you give it the smell test.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Oh tell me about the smell test.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, So if it's got like smoke, okay, Well yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: all of them are gonna smell like craym. Probably the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: smoke is going to be the bad one. So even
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: with Facebook marketplace, I always ask if this is available,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: is it from a smoke free home? Okay, the smoke
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely walk away from. If it's just oh yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: oh yeah. Well there are ways, but you're not guaranteed. Okay,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you can try, like a good vinegar cleaning. You can
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: use the Binchillac spray to try to block, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: seal in those odors. But I learned after one piece.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It was just this tiny little secretary desk where it'd
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: folded down, but it was just a small dusk and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I was working in my garage and so it basically
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: always sat in my garage. I never smelled anything, but
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I cleaned it with the vinegar water and you know
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: all that. And the Gale who bought it a few
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: days later, she caused me she had put it in
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: her kitchen kind of as a little like station for
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: her for her kids school papers and all that, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: she's like, I'm smelling smoke. So I had her bring
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: it back and so we did the spray select because
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I had not used that, and it did yeah, it did.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: She took it back and then no problems. So I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: now just even this musty grandma smell. After I've given
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: everything a really good cleaning, I will seal all my
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: pieces under the drawers, inside the drawers on the back,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: underneath everything with that benchilect R spray, just to seal
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in if there is still any odors, because normally I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: can't smell anything anymore, so it might just come later.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I know, so stink smell or you don't want anything
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to do with stink, what other? Yeah, so you're looking at.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: It, I would look at repairs. I mean, drawers can
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: be a little tricky. It just depends on what's your
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: capability skill level on you know, repairs. If it's peeling veneer,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of that anymore. I used to be,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: but it's pretty easy. If it's just a top with
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: some peeling.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Veneer, get it glued back down, well you.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Can try that. Or it's amazing sometimes the beautiful wood
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: that's actually underneath that veneer. So I've done both. It
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: just depends on how bad. I had this one armoire
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: once where the veneer it was just on the top,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: but the veneer it just like just all just peeled off.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That was probably the easiest. But then I've had some
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: other like dressers that clients have brought and I've had
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: to use like the hot iron and wet towel. Sure
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: you technice can do it that way, but gorgeous wood underneath,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you know, So.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: That's really fun.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: It's like when you strip something that was painted and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you realize, yeah, I don't understand why this is painted,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and it's.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Nice to be able to keep some part of it
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: is the original wood if you can, so you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: do that kind of the two tone they call it,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: but just the stain top with a painted But yeah, so.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: What about now you mentioned some of it? I mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: where do you go? You find these things at a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: state sales face, Facebook market pace.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big garage sale, but though some people
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: get them at garage sales, and then I would say,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: trying to think, I really that's about it. I don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: well thrift stores, but thrift stores have gotten hold of
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the idea that you're going to pay huge amount for
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a very old dresser just because they know that people
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: will do vibm and flip them and stuff. And again
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: with that a thrift store they'll have where if it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: been there for a month, they'll mark it down a
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: little bit if it's been there for two months against
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Mark Dwnsmore. I haven't bought too many things at thrift stores.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I know there's other furniture refinishers that do. Again, I
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: think my favorites is an estate sale because in that respect,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: especially if you go into a home that's been well
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: maintained all these years versus a thrift store or you
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: don't know where, if it's been sitting in a barn
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: or what you know.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, no, that's really cool. Well, obviously I've got
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: an idea where you're at on this, But the whole
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: have you run into issues with every time we talk
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: about this on the radio show, talk about you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: finishing furniture, refinishing furniture. Honestly, it comes up big time
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: when we talk about kitchen cabinets. There's two camps. There's
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: one camp that is all about painting over wood. There's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: another camp that is absolutely cannot believe that anybody would
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: paint over would you're getting these you know, vintage pieces,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: antique pieces, some of them are all wood. Sounds like
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you're painting over them. I mean, if you're hitting them
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: with ben how do you feel about that cross?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: How I feel it depends on how the piece comes
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to me, you know, or I find it. If it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: something that absolutely could be like fully restored, like gorgeous wood,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: all that, I'm all for trying to just restain it
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: or leave it as a very light you know, just
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: take the old finish off and seal it. That became
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: quite a trend for a while. I think people are
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: kind of getting away from that, but it still is.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: But the problem is that a lot of these old
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: pieces that I like from the early nineteen hundreds all
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: have this veneer covering them, and it can be chipping
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: or peeling. And that's where if you're going to just
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: repair where the veneer has chipped off or whatever you're
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: going to use like a bondo or something to you're
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: gonna have to paint right. That's why it's nice to
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: save a top maybe if you can.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Got some of the original. Yeah. Yeah, So when we
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: would talk to people, you know, one of the things
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I would always try to say, is is it getting
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: use right? You know in your attic? Because I've talked
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to plenty of people who that style, whatever that is,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it doesn't fit with what I've got, right, And if
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: it's not having any use at all, what kind of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: life is it leading at this point? But if you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: put some paint on it and now can bring it in,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it's ten times I.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Feel like, I mean, I don't know the whole history
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: of painted furniture, but I know it goes back to
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: it goes back to the I think the seventeen hundreds,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: you know, or whatever, because you look at like colonial
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: times there was painted.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I'm pre sure the cavemen painted their rocks, Okay, you
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: know from.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So all the way, it goes way back.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It's not like, you know, we're doing something that wasn't
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: done before.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: be back for the conclusion of my commonsation with Patty
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Brummel from Midlife Revival. Stick around and we're backa listening
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to the repcal Light Home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: And let's just get right into the conclusion of my
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: conversation with Furniture refinisher and all around Di I wire
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Patty Brummel from Midlife Revival. So right now. Your biggest
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: thing that you're working on is this renovation. You talked
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, your daughter's nineteen twenties. Nineteen twenties, right,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: what's that whole experience been like.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: It's been challenging, but it has been fun. This is
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: our youngest daughter. She had been looking for a house
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: for several months and everything was falling through. Everything was
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: like really small and you were going to pay really
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: big bucks for it. But it all worked out good
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: because this house was really outside of her financial capability
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: to purchase, but it had more space and it gave
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: mom a workshop so I could get out of my
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: garage and so I was just paying a rent and.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: It need work. Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: It was definitely one of those that you would call
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the fixer upper. We knew going into it that it
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: needed a new roof.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Who did that? Did you hire that? Yeah?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: We hired that. Oh yeah, we yeah, there were we
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: know our capabilities.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: That's one of the best things you can know. Yeah ability.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, we did this. Actually with another daughter, we helped
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: her with her first home here in the Holland area,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and hers was not as much of a fixer up.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: It was more just a cosmetic thing, but it it
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: was nineteen twenty four age, so close the same age.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: So the plumbing electrical we had hired out to do,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: and then we did all the cosmetic stuff. And that's
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: where I learned a lot of these projects is trial
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: and error. She says, I try. I trialed on her, yeah, yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and then yeah, well and she was the firstborn too,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: so I trialed on her.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So little sister had got some fine tuned
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: versions of us, but the other ones they get their
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: rough yes.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, so. And then going into this house that we're
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: presently been working on for over a year, I hate
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to say, is we did higher out for the roof.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: We ended up getting all new electrical and plumbing in
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: there as well, and then it snowballed into more things
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: than we thought. So the interior we are almost finished with.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just finishing up that upstairs apartment.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Pretty much done with the interior stuff. Yeah, other you know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: bigger projects, which is in the kitchen.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Let's say, well, I have refinished the cabinets in her kitchen.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: She had like nineteen eighties, oh cabinets in there, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: she wanted them to be black. The cabinets and so
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: we started out with Benmore Advance because I love the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Advance product, very durable, very durable. I actually used it
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: in my for the first time in my other daughter's house,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: but hers were just like a lighter off white color.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: But the problem was that Advance only has the higher sheen,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: so the black just it was too much. Oh, it
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: was too much.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: They've got a satin sheen, and.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: They have a satin but satin was too much. So
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I went into the store talk to them, I should
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: back it up. I did have someone hired out to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: do all my wall painting and spray all the trim,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: because I learned from doing my other daughter's house that
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: it was better that I just pay someone and because
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it I don't have a great sprayer, and so it
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: was just so time consuming. So anyways, he was using
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: scuff X Benjamin Moore scuff X for all the trim,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and so so I went into the store and I said,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: what about scuff X for the cabinets And that came
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: into Matt Finish and that was perfect. And so yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I have another favorite.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Lots of projects, lots of things. What was the biggest,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you know, the biggest challenge in all of that money
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: probably make it work, right, we hire the people that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you want exactly.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we wanted to try to preserve as much
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: of the house's character as possible, and unfortunately it did
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: have all of the original woodwork. Unfortunately it had been
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: painted prior, so I would say that was one of
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the bigger challenges, was preserving that but having to repaint it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Some of the areas we had to remove the trim,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: so then you have nails to pull out and patch that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But then the lead based paint or anything or what
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: do not even think about it. Let's just not think
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, nothing was like chipping and stuff. I don't
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: think the paint that was on the top was because
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's nineteen seventies or earlier, right, and this
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: was probably more like an eighties type renovation.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: It was encapsulated there it was, and then no, and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: then I have a.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Hepa filter type sanding system that I use to do
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the scuff sanding with. And no one was living in
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the house either. And then we did use the bin
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: schelect white primer to encapsulate everything as well afterwards, so
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: that would have been one of the biggest challenges too.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Was just all the trim work, trying to preserve it,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you know, keep it. Whereas now I know why a
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: lot of HGTV shows are just they just rip everything
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: out because it's so much easier just to start all
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: new than to try to redo everything in there.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Are you happy you did those?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, one hundred.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And we really repurposed a lot of other stuff that
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: we had to pull out because we actually put an
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: addition on the upstairs bumped up the ceiling because it
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: had like a slanted ceiling, so we were able to
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: preserve or save rafters that were a cool wood feature.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I oh really cool, just a lot of things.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was fun. I mean because money was
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: an issue. It's just kind of fun to how you
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: can recycle.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: No, I don't, I'm trying to keep No, I can't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: imagine the thing I've ever done. Every time I do
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the thing, Yeah, the grocery store in money.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Oh that's awful. Yeah, I know you.
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  Speaker 1: Want so I've got a wayte to go. I can
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: just live off that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: A good way to have a diet.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: So if you're talking to anybody, you know you're talking
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to a bunch of people who tackle things like this
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: or have been afraid to tackle things like that. You know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: that's that's a major undertaking what you jumped into. What
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: would you tell them.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I would just say it definitely gives you that satisfaction
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: that you did it. But you have to know your limits.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's what it seemed you guys did really
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: well with you know, from what you're talking about. You
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: didn't jump into projects that you knew were big budgeted
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the money to go cover those things, and you tackle
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the things you can do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Really, you know, it depends on the people. But for me,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I know it would have been smart in the time
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I did it with the drywall. It would have been
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: better for me.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: To hope that yeah all them, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I did it. I learned how to do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got through it. I was never thrilled with the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: results because yeah, well I've done it before, and I've
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: talked to people who let me realize that the price
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: of having it done was not near what I had
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: anticipated it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you have to pick and choose. And again,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: we tried trialed a lot of things on our first
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: daughter's house, and we learned what we could and could
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: not do. But what's also been great is it has
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: given us connections to a lot of good trades people.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: And I guess, you know, if someone was going to
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: do something like this, I say, you know, go for it,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: but again, find what is what you want to work
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: on and what would be best to hire out. But
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: there are also people who don't even want to pick
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: out their finishes or anything, and that is what I
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: love to do.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: You enjoyed that, oh.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, I should have gone to school for
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: interior decorating design and stuff because I absolutely love that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing. If you're in that boat, you know,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you're you're hiring, you're looking at the big project like that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: There are lots of people you know, yeah, got contact
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: with painters. Yeah, we've got people that can help with
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: com I know, you can help with color. I mean,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: there's all kinds of people out there who do exactly
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: what you need done and can do it. Well. It's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: worth that conversation.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Right, and sometimes you just need that guidance and stuff,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: just a consultation or whatever and yeah, yeah, what you're doing,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: yeah exactly.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So Patty, if people want to follow you, how do
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: they find you?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: If they're following on social media if they are on
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the social media platforms. I'm on Facebook Midlife Revival as
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: well as Instagram Midlife Revival. But I also have a
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: website that you know, kind of goes through my background
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: of where this all started and nice services that I offer,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and that's Midlife revival dot com.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll put links to all of that in
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the show notes. Thanks for hanging out.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. I really appreciate this opportunity.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's a lot of fun. All right, that's gonna
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: do it. That's all the time we've got really for
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: this whole episode. Remember what you've just heard with Patty
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Bromo was only a small portion of a much larger interview,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: And if you do want to catch the whole thing,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: just head to rept Coollites YouTube page and it's all
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: there in glorious full color video, So check that out.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever you do today makes your paints a part of it,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: even if it's just a little part. But it really
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: wouldn't bother us if it was a great, big part.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, makes your paints a part of it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody, and I'll see you next week.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hansen. Thanks for listening.