Latest / I Choose Me with Jennie Garth / I Choose ... from the C-Suite to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills with Bozoma St John
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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl, Welcome
- 0:09Speaker 1: back to I Choose Me, the podcast where incredible people
- 0:13Speaker 1: inspire me every day. I had the absolute pleasure of
- 0:18Speaker 1: inviting some of those people onto the stage for my
- 0:21Speaker 1: second annual I Choose Me Empowerment Summit, was presented by
- 0:25Speaker 1: iHeart and It Cosmetics, and now over the next few weeks,
- 0:28Speaker 1: I'm going to share the conversations with each of them
- 0:32Speaker 1: with you.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Bose Of with Saint John is a trailblazing marketing executive
- 0:37Speaker 2: and author, a cultural disruptor, and the current star of
- 0:42Speaker 2: Bravos The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She has held
- 0:47Speaker 2: C suite roles at Netflix, Uber, Apple Music, and PEPSI Coo,
- 0:53Speaker 2: redefining how to connect with authenticity and emotional stery story telling.
- 1:01Speaker 2: So please, right now, let's welcome the brilliantly bold and
- 1:06Speaker 2: dynamic Bozomas Saint John.
- 1:11Speaker 3: WHOA, Hey, can.
- 1:22Speaker 4: I tell you what? Okay? So y'all, let me tell
- 1:26Speaker 4: you what just happened. You see these beautiful shoes that
- 1:30Speaker 4: I had on here that were supposed to be nice
- 1:32Speaker 4: with my outfit. You know, Jenny's got some tan shoes
- 1:36Speaker 4: on as well. I thought I was so cute. Then
- 1:38Speaker 4: I'll send there. And I felt something loose on the
- 1:41Speaker 4: top of my foot. It broke. I was like, you
- 1:47Speaker 4: know what, there's only one thing to do, go out
- 1:49Speaker 4: there barefoot. Yeah.
- 1:50Speaker 5: No, I'm feeling good about it.
- 1:52Speaker 4: I like my shoes will sit right here. Just pretend
- 1:55Speaker 4: they're on my feet.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Take my shoes.
- 1:57Speaker 5: I'll feel better.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Everybody.
- 2:03Speaker 6: Who Oh my god, yes, wait a second, you guys,
- 2:07Speaker 6: this woman right here is a Hall of Fame inducted marketer.
- 2:15Speaker 5: Hello, that's not easy to do.
- 2:17Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.
- 2:17Speaker 5: I mean, especially as a woman in the corporate world.
- 2:20Speaker 5: Oh yeah, climbing that ladder is not easy. And you've
- 2:23Speaker 5: done it.
- 2:23Speaker 4: Girl, I got callouss.
- 2:25Speaker 5: Yeah, it's approving claw marks, right.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Look, everything has my nails in it. I love it.
- 2:32Speaker 5: I love it so much.
- 2:33Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you, what would you say has
- 2:36Speaker 6: been the biggest challenge for you as you came to
- 2:40Speaker 6: this place where you are right now?
- 2:41Speaker 4: Hmmmm? Well, I think, like many people, you know, you
- 2:45Speaker 4: see somebody successful and you're like, oh, okay, I want
- 2:50Speaker 4: to be like them, right, and maybe you look at
- 2:54Speaker 4: the way that they dress, maybe the way they talk,
- 2:56Speaker 4: maybe the way they do their hair, maybe the way
- 2:59Speaker 4: they to rap, And you think, okay, let me pattern
- 3:02Speaker 4: myself around that, because then I have a better chance
- 3:06Speaker 4: of being successful. Right.
- 3:08Speaker 5: Are you talking like a mentor?
- 3:09Speaker 4: No, I'm just talking about this, like looking at people
- 3:11Speaker 4: who are successful. So when I first started out in marketing,
- 3:15Speaker 4: my first real marketing job was at PepsiCo, and you know,
- 3:19Speaker 4: I looked into the corner office at the CMO and
- 3:22Speaker 4: I was like, hmm, he looks nothing like me. And
- 3:29Speaker 4: not only did he look nothing like me, but he
- 3:31Speaker 4: didn't talk like me. He didn't behave like me. Look,
- 3:35Speaker 4: I use my hands. I clearly like to have my
- 3:37Speaker 4: stomach out. You know what I'm saying. I'm not afraid
- 3:39Speaker 4: of my breasts either. That's good. And I also pull
- 3:45Speaker 4: a lot from pop culture.
- 3:46Speaker 3: You know.
- 3:47Speaker 4: It's like I know where Angelina Jolie's third child was born.
- 3:51Speaker 4: All right, useless pieces of information, but I love it,
- 3:54Speaker 4: all right. I consume pop culture heavily.
- 3:58Speaker 3: You know.
- 3:58Speaker 4: I don't do that at all.
- 3:59Speaker 5: Oh girl, I know nothing about that.
- 4:01Speaker 4: No, I know everything. Look, if there was a pop
- 4:03Speaker 4: culture Jeopardy, I would win, no grand champion right here. Okay,
- 4:07Speaker 4: I'm too nosy for my own good. So the person
- 4:12Speaker 4: in that corner office was data driven.
- 4:15Speaker 3: You know.
- 4:15Speaker 4: He had short hair slipped back. He wore gray suits
- 4:19Speaker 4: every day with a blue button down. Child. I don't
- 4:23Speaker 4: know anything like that, you know, in meetings, he was
- 4:25Speaker 4: very measured, whereas I'm very passionate. I'll cry too, you
- 4:29Speaker 4: know what I mean. And so coming up, I think
- 4:33Speaker 4: the hardest thing was accepting the fact that I would
- 4:37Speaker 4: never be him, and knowing that I could achieve success anyway,
- 4:43Speaker 4: and I could do it my way. But I won't
- 4:45Speaker 4: pretend like it was some sort of hero tale. You know.
- 4:48Speaker 4: I got some really bad reviews early on, and I
- 4:52Speaker 4: was sitting there. Did you think that? Yeah, girl, well
- 4:54Speaker 4: I gave up, you know, So that's I said. It's
- 4:57Speaker 4: not a hero Say yeah, I fell down. You don't
- 4:59Speaker 4: lay down on the ground crying like I'll never get
- 5:02Speaker 4: out of the middle, you know. And I, honest I
- 5:06Speaker 4: think that's what saved me, because I went to the
- 5:08Speaker 4: office the next day a friend who was sitting in
- 5:13Speaker 4: a cubicle next to me, who is still my friend
- 5:15Speaker 4: to this day, Zach Harris. Okay, hey, Zach, exactly, thank you, Zach.
- 5:20Speaker 4: I came in and Zach is perfect, you know, Zach
- 5:23Speaker 4: looks exactly the part. Ok. And I walk in and
- 5:28Speaker 4: I had on leather pants and a flower top because
- 5:31Speaker 4: I was like, well, if they're gonna say I'm you know,
- 5:34Speaker 4: I'm not, I can't make it because I talk a
- 5:36Speaker 4: certain way, I look a certain way, and these reviews
- 5:39Speaker 4: are coming even though the work is good. Then I
- 5:40Speaker 4: might as well just show up as myself because I'm okay,
- 5:43Speaker 4: I'll be here in the middle. And I walk in
- 5:45Speaker 4: and Zach was like, bos, what are you doing? You know,
- 5:48Speaker 4: he was like so terrified for me, but at the
- 5:50Speaker 4: same time he was like, you look good. I was like,
- 5:53Speaker 4: hild I know. And I went into the next meeting
- 5:57Speaker 4: and I just think that all of my inhibitions were gone,
- 6:02Speaker 4: you know, because I was no longer trying to serve
- 6:05Speaker 4: that image that was completely impossible for me to achieve,
- 6:10Speaker 4: and my brilliance came out better.
- 6:12Speaker 5: Yes, right, when you're true to your authentical So.
- 6:14Speaker 4: That was the hardest thing was coming into myself that.
- 6:20Speaker 1: It was.
- 6:27Speaker 5: There anybody that told you you can't do this? Or
- 6:29Speaker 5: of course, yeah, who which.
- 6:31Speaker 4: One you me? The name? Yeah, exactly A You're gonna
- 6:35Speaker 4: go find them? Yeah, you know, it's funny. I was
- 6:40Speaker 4: asked once about like the best piece of advice I
- 6:42Speaker 4: ever got, and I was like, you know, I had
- 6:45Speaker 4: a very well intentioned woman, boss Ones, who gave me
- 6:49Speaker 4: some advice. I was terrible.
- 6:51Speaker 3: You know.
- 6:51Speaker 4: She said, as you can see, I'm pretty out there.
- 6:56Speaker 4: And she was like, you know, don't wear red lipstick
- 6:59Speaker 4: or wear red and they a polish in the office
- 7:01Speaker 4: or too important meetings. Okay, no, because it signals that
- 7:05Speaker 4: maybe you're not as serious. Oh, you're just too Yeah,
- 7:09Speaker 4: you're just flamboyant. Yeah, you know, it's like you need
- 7:12Speaker 4: to tone everything down. Okay.
- 7:14Speaker 5: I don't like her already.
- 7:18Speaker 4: And the thing is, I will say, you know, I
- 7:20Speaker 4: think she was well intentioned, it was just terrible advice
- 7:23Speaker 4: because again back to my earlier point, I think sometimes
- 7:26Speaker 4: we think fashion or the way you appear as superficial
- 7:29Speaker 4: and it's not. You know, a lot of times it's
- 7:31Speaker 4: like if you feel like you look good, then you
- 7:35Speaker 4: walk around like it, you know. And so it's like
- 7:38Speaker 4: for me, saying those types of things to me just
- 7:41Speaker 4: made me feel like I was too much, too bold,
- 7:45Speaker 4: too loud, and I wanted to quiet myself. But then
- 7:48Speaker 4: it ended up silencing me.
- 7:50Speaker 5: How did you get past the silencing of yourself? Because
- 7:53Speaker 5: I've been there too, and it's hard.
- 7:56Speaker 4: It's really really hard. Well, because you want to be liked.
- 7:59Speaker 4: I think all of us you don't want to be
- 8:00Speaker 4: in a situation where you know people are looking at
- 8:04Speaker 4: you and they're just like, oh God, every time she
- 8:05Speaker 4: opens her mouth, just stupidity rolls out. You know, none
- 8:08Speaker 4: of us want to feel that, and I think that
- 8:10Speaker 4: we sometimes shy away from saying the truth of that.
- 8:15Speaker 4: You know, it's not necessarily like the evil people. Please
- 8:18Speaker 4: are like stereotype that sometimes people get and then it's like,
- 8:21Speaker 4: oh my god, you're the worst thing ever. Don't do that.
- 8:23Speaker 4: You know, you got to be strong and blah blah,
- 8:25Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, no, you can. You can be
- 8:27Speaker 4: strong and also not want people to not like you.
- 8:30Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You can. You can you
- 8:32Speaker 4: are Yes, you can be who you are. You can
- 8:34Speaker 4: be strong, you can be opinionated, you can be successful
- 8:37Speaker 4: and still want people to cheer when you walk in.
- 8:40Speaker 4: You know, there's nothing wrong with that. And so for me,
- 8:43Speaker 4: I think part of my shift was in being so
- 8:48Speaker 4: true to who I am, so to the point about
- 8:51Speaker 4: loving pop culture. Oh, I'd go into meetings, I'd be
- 8:54Speaker 4: talking about everything that just happened, you know what I mean.
- 8:56Speaker 4: So I became that person who always had her pulse
- 8:59Speaker 4: on the finger, my finger on the pulse of everything
- 9:02Speaker 4: that was happening, and so people would be like, oh
- 9:03Speaker 4: my god, go ask bos go ask her if it's cool.
- 9:07Speaker 4: And then I became that person and I was like, yeah,
- 9:09Speaker 4: I know, because I am cool, and you know, it's
- 9:12Speaker 4: like so I could own that, and therefore I wasn't
- 9:15Speaker 4: trying to be anything else. You know, if you want
- 9:17Speaker 4: the data collection person, I promise you says it's not me.
- 9:21Speaker 4: You know. They're like, yeah, if you want to know
- 9:23Speaker 4: if that's cute, and it'll feel if it on sault,
- 9:25Speaker 4: people come ask me. I'll let you know. I love
- 9:28Speaker 4: that about you.
- 9:28Speaker 5: Now I feel even better about when you complimented my suit.
- 9:31Speaker 4: Oh girl, Okay, so this is what actually said. It
- 9:34Speaker 4: was a compliment, but it was also a threat.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Yeah it was.
- 9:37Speaker 4: I said, if I didn't respect her so much, I'll
- 9:40Speaker 4: just knock her down backstage and take the suit and
- 9:41Speaker 4: run off.
- 9:43Speaker 5: Okay, now that leads me to my next question.
- 9:46Speaker 4: That was my language.
- 9:47Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it so from the boardroom reality TV girl.
- 9:52Speaker 5: What a switch? How I don't get it?
- 9:56Speaker 4: How's that?
- 9:56Speaker 5: How what happened? How'd you get there?
- 10:00Speaker 3: How?
- 10:00Speaker 5: How has that influenced your the importance the impact of
- 10:08Speaker 5: female relationships?
- 10:11Speaker 4: This is a loaded question, Okay, So I curled up
- 10:14Speaker 4: for it.
- 10:15Speaker 2: I know.
- 10:17Speaker 4: This is Actually isn't it so interesting that you were
- 10:19Speaker 4: on Beverly Hills nine o two on NO and I'm
- 10:21Speaker 4: on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Is that so interesting?
- 10:24Speaker 4: It's so cute?
- 10:25Speaker 5: Actually, did you do you live in Beverly Hills?
- 10:28Speaker 4: No? I live in Hancock Park.
- 10:29Speaker 5: No, I never lived in Beverly Hills either, know, right,
- 10:33Speaker 5: I think.
- 10:34Speaker 4: It's the aura of it, you know, the aspiration of it.
- 10:36Speaker 4: It's right, still sexy, still rich, No kidding. You know,
- 10:41Speaker 4: it's so interesting because when I was leaving my corporate career,
- 10:46Speaker 4: I was doing that independent of being on TV like that.
- 10:50Speaker 4: That was not part of my thing. But these yeah,
- 10:54Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I think I'm done
- 10:56Speaker 4: with that part of my life.
- 10:58Speaker 3: You know.
- 10:58Speaker 4: It's like my last big corporate job. I was the
- 11:01Speaker 4: global Chief Marketing Officer at Netflix, and I took that
- 11:05Speaker 4: job right at the beginning of the pandemic. It was
- 11:07Speaker 4: a hard ass job, okay, And after almost two years,
- 11:13Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I think this is?
- 11:16Speaker 4: This is it for me? Like, I don't I don't
- 11:17Speaker 4: actually want to do this anymore. I don't enjoy it.
- 11:19Speaker 4: It's not I was getting the Sunday scaries all the time.
- 11:22Speaker 5: Do you guys know that what that means Monday's coming?
- 11:24Speaker 4: Yeah, Monday's coming and you feel a little sick. It
- 11:27Speaker 4: starts getting to you like on Sunday morning, and then
- 11:29Speaker 4: it ruins your whole day, you know, I mean whole
- 11:31Speaker 4: day gone. I hate it, and I'm starting to feel that.
- 11:34Speaker 4: I also wanted to write my book, and every publisher
- 11:39Speaker 4: was like, you know, write the how to Climb the
- 11:42Speaker 4: Corporate Ladder and Heels book, and I was like, well,
- 11:46Speaker 4: don't laugh, because I still might write it.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I kind of like that.
- 11:50Speaker 4: But I was insulted at the time because I was like,
- 11:53Speaker 4: you know what, but I have so much more to offer,
- 11:55Speaker 4: you know, And I think for me, what I was
- 11:57Speaker 4: getting to is that, like I have achieved a lot
- 12:00Speaker 4: of success in my corporate life, but it didn't come
- 12:02Speaker 4: because I had a silver spoon in my mouth. It
- 12:04Speaker 4: didn't come because I've never faced any loss or sadness
- 12:07Speaker 4: or grief for hard times. Through all of that, I
- 12:10Speaker 4: have made it. And so I wanted to write the book,
- 12:13Speaker 4: you know, my memoir, which talked about that, so that
- 12:15Speaker 4: you could see that if things are happening in your
- 12:17Speaker 4: life that you feel victim to, that you can still
- 12:20Speaker 4: thrive anyway. You can still be in the dark and
- 12:24Speaker 4: find your way into the light. You do and still achieve.
- 12:27Speaker 4: And so I wanted to write that book. And it
- 12:29Speaker 4: was going to be impossible to write that book and
- 12:32Speaker 4: also show up every day in this global chief job
- 12:36Speaker 4: where the expectations were so high on me, I couldn't
- 12:38Speaker 4: tap in. And so I made the very very difficult choice,
- 12:42Speaker 4: and yeah, to leave the job. And look again, I'm
- 12:46Speaker 4: not even going to pretend like I'm a hero. I cried.
- 12:49Speaker 4: I cried in the office with Ted Sarandos, who's the
- 12:52Speaker 4: CEO of Netflix, as we were talking about it. I
- 12:55Speaker 4: was crying, sobbing, you know, being like I think I
- 12:59Speaker 4: have to go, you know. And when I went home,
- 13:02Speaker 4: my mom was like, what the hell did you quit
- 13:04Speaker 4: your job? Why'd you do that? What's going on? You know?
- 13:09Speaker 4: And but after I published my book, and you know,
- 13:13Speaker 4: the press tour was over and I was sitting at
- 13:16Speaker 4: home and I was like, oh my god. Then my
- 13:17Speaker 4: egos started to talk to me. What is same o?
- 13:20Speaker 4: My ego was like, bitch, everybody thinks you're washed up,
- 13:25Speaker 4: you know. They don't think you're so smart, you know.
- 13:28Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, I got to prove them wrong.
- 13:31Speaker 4: So I started talking to people who were like, oh,
- 13:34Speaker 4: you know, you're back in the workplace, Like, let's let's
- 13:36Speaker 4: get you a job. So I had a very very
- 13:39Speaker 4: very large, large, large, large opportunity. Okay, the kind that
- 13:43Speaker 4: is like, okay, you'll be CMO for eighteen months and
- 13:46Speaker 4: then move into the CEO role for a very large company.
- 13:50Speaker 4: And the interviews were global. So the last one was
- 13:52Speaker 4: in France, in Paris, and I was sitting in my
- 13:55Speaker 4: hotel room. I had cleared all the other interviews. I
- 13:59Speaker 4: just had to meet the board. And again I was
- 14:03Speaker 4: sitting there and I was like, oh no, I don't
- 14:06Speaker 4: actually want to do this. I don't actually want this job.
- 14:10Speaker 4: But how is it that, like, now I'm sitting here,
- 14:12Speaker 4: I've had like fifteen interviews already, I'm meeting the board
- 14:15Speaker 4: in the morning. And now I'm having like a panic attack, yeah,
- 14:19Speaker 4: because I'm like, I'm only here because my damn ego
- 14:21Speaker 4: was telling me that I couldn't do it, not because
- 14:24Speaker 4: I actually wanted it. I didn't want to go back
- 14:26Speaker 4: to that. So then I had to call the CEO
- 14:30Speaker 4: and say I think I made a mistake, and he
- 14:34Speaker 4: was like, no, no, no, it's fine. Just meet the
- 14:36Speaker 4: board and then we can talk about this later. By
- 14:37Speaker 4: the way, the offer was already with my lawyers, and
- 14:41Speaker 4: I sat there and just checked in with my spirit
- 14:45Speaker 4: and I was like I can't do this, like I
- 14:47Speaker 4: don't even want this, like I'm lying. So I didn't
- 14:50Speaker 4: go to the meeting. Wow. I got on the plane
- 14:54Speaker 4: and came home and cried some more for two months,
- 14:58Speaker 4: sat in my bed eight bond bonds, yes for real,
- 15:03Speaker 4: and cried and cried and said what am I going
- 15:05Speaker 4: to do? And then I got an email from Bravo
- 15:12Speaker 4: And by the way, I thought they wanted me to
- 15:14Speaker 4: come and be the CMO. What was when I literally
- 15:18Speaker 4: went to the meeting. Okay, like I swear my hands
- 15:22Speaker 4: to God. I went to the meeting thinking they wanted
- 15:25Speaker 4: to interview me to be the CMO, and I was like, wait,
- 15:27Speaker 4: you want maybe a housewife? Like what what you know?
- 15:33Speaker 4: And this is I think part of also my story,
- 15:36Speaker 4: just throughout my career and everything that I've done, is
- 15:39Speaker 4: that I really trust my intuition. You know, I trust
- 15:41Speaker 4: it in plas helly. I don't ask people for their advice.
- 15:44Speaker 4: When people want to give me their opinions about my life,
- 15:47Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, over there, you know. And that's hard
- 15:50Speaker 4: to do because your sister will tell you, your best
- 15:52Speaker 4: friend will tell you, your man will tell you, and
- 15:55Speaker 4: mentor with your aunt, and everybody want to have an opinion.
- 15:59Speaker 4: It's all up and here, all in there. And so
- 16:01Speaker 4: I really have trained the people of my life not
- 16:04Speaker 4: to give me their opinion about what I'm doing and
- 16:08Speaker 4: how do I I need Yeah, we're gonna talk about
- 16:10Speaker 4: that in a second, because we all need it, okay.
- 16:14Speaker 4: And so I sat with it, and it felt like
- 16:17Speaker 4: the right thing. It really did, And I think part
- 16:20Speaker 4: of it was twofold. I was telling you this that, like,
- 16:22Speaker 4: I think the stories of women in their forties, fifties
- 16:26Speaker 4: and sixties is really important. It's truly important. And yeah,
- 16:31Speaker 4: I mean, and you know, because I have worked in
- 16:35Speaker 4: the entertainment industry. As an executive, I know that the
- 16:39Speaker 4: stories that are told are women in their teens and twenties,
- 16:43Speaker 4: and that's what sells. And so it's fascinating to me
- 16:47Speaker 4: that this world of the housewives is based on women
- 16:50Speaker 4: who are so much older. By the way, the drama
- 16:53Speaker 4: in our lives drama. Look, it's not even just about
- 16:56Speaker 4: like what's happening with you and your friends. It's like
- 16:58Speaker 4: the other drama. You know, it's like you're raising kids,
- 17:02Speaker 4: you're you know, maybe yeah, maybe going through a divorce,
- 17:06Speaker 4: maybe on your you know, next relationship and the relationship
- 17:08Speaker 4: after that, you have aging parents, you know, maybe you're
- 17:12Speaker 4: in a point in your career where you need to
- 17:14Speaker 4: pivot it or it's you know, you're seeing the decline.
- 17:17Speaker 4: Like there's so much going on in our lives. It's
- 17:19Speaker 4: important for us to tell those stories. Absolutely, and so
- 17:22Speaker 4: that's why I really joined. I was like, yeah, we're
- 17:24Speaker 4: the corporate baddies who are retired, who are fabulous. I
- 17:28Speaker 4: need to be part of this.
- 17:30Speaker 5: Well, people love you on that show. I know your
- 17:33Speaker 5: teenage daughter must be so proud and oh.
- 17:35Speaker 4: My god, well she was the only opinion I asked, Okay,
- 17:39Speaker 4: that's you know what I mean, was the only one
- 17:41Speaker 4: I do too, Yeah, because I just I didn't want
- 17:44Speaker 4: her because look, this is like the cameras are in
- 17:46Speaker 4: the house, right, you can't hide, you know what I mean.
- 17:49Speaker 4: And also you know, we are at a turbulent point
- 17:52Speaker 4: in our lives, you know, meaning that like she's sixteen,
- 17:55Speaker 4: she'll be seventeen in a month. Girl thinks she knows
- 17:58Speaker 4: every damn thing. Okay too, and uh, you know, and
- 18:03Speaker 4: I had just gotten into a relationship that was brand new,
- 18:07Speaker 4: you know, I want to be delicate with it. There
- 18:09Speaker 4: was just a lot happening, and I was nervous for
- 18:12Speaker 4: her and for me, and so I asked her opinion,
- 18:15Speaker 4: and she was like, well, there's nobody else like you,
- 18:18Speaker 4: so you should do it.
- 18:22Speaker 5: That is so true both, there is nobody else like you.
- 18:26Speaker 4: Thank you. I got that affirmation, you know what I'm saying.
- 18:30Speaker 5: And you did that, like you, you made her the
- 18:33Speaker 5: way she is like you. You're incredible.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Appreciate.
- 18:36Speaker 5: I love talking to you.
- 18:37Speaker 4: Thank you. I talking to you too, Evenirfoot, I know
- 18:41Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
- 18:42Speaker 5: You guys give it up.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Pay John, thank you, Okay, you take your broken shoes
- 18:48Speaker 3: out of here.
- 18:50Speaker 4: So much thank you everybody,