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Young woman's body stuffed in suitcase, dumped in Connecticut neighborhood; Patrick Frazee's nurse friend to plead guilty in Kelsey Berreth probe · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: kidnap case of Jamie Claus and the murder of both
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  Speaker 1: of her parents. Listen. Michelle Stafford is friends with the
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  Speaker 1: Claus family. She says since coming home, Jamie has spent
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  Speaker 1: time with loved ones and in therapy. Every single person
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  Speaker 1: I talked to just wants Jamie to heal and be
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  Speaker 1: able to move forward with her life. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's happening. I do. I don't think any of
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  Speaker 1: us can really know what she's going through, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that if she has to be with a group
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  Speaker 1: of people that will love her and support her for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of her life, She's in the perfect family
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  Speaker 1: to do that. This week, the Class family released this
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  Speaker 1: picture of the thirteen year old enjoying a stake dinner
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  Speaker 1: with her grandfather. Today, Jamie's alleged kidnapper, twenty one year
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  Speaker 1: old Jake Patterson, will face a judge in person for
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  Speaker 1: the first time. We've never talked about him or any
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  Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff, and I hope we never
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  Speaker 1: have to. Investigators revealed last week they had obtained call logs,
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  Speaker 1: photos and videos from Patterson's cell phone, which was in
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  Speaker 1: the front seat of his car when he was arrested.
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  Speaker 1: According to the criminal complaint, Patterson shot and killed Jamie's
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  Speaker 1: parents in October as they try to protect her. He
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  Speaker 1: allegedly confessed to targeting the teenager after seeing her getting
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  Speaker 1: on a school bus. He's accused of holding her captive
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  Speaker 1: in his house until she broke free nearly three months later.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Glenn and Richard Jones are Patterson's public defenders. When
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  Speaker 1: you have a confession like this, how much harter is
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  Speaker 1: your case? Well, these cases, by their nature are very,
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  Speaker 1: very difficult cases. We have responsibility to review everything. We
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  Speaker 1: have to conduct our own investigation. Stafford says, no matter
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  Speaker 1: what happens with the suspect, Jamie will be okay. I
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  Speaker 1: have no doubt that she's going to make it. I
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  Speaker 1: have no doubt in my mind at all. Strong little
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  Speaker 1: fighter she is. The CBS reporter Jamie Yucas talking to
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  Speaker 1: a friend of Jamie class this as her alleged kidnapper
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  Speaker 1: and the murderer of both of her parents. Do you
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  Speaker 1: in court? Straight out to Dave Mac, syndicated talk show
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  Speaker 1: host joining us, Dave Mac, why is this guy? Jake Patterson.
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  Speaker 1: Do you in court, what's the purpose of his court
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  Speaker 1: hearing today? It's a preliminary hearing, Nancy. They'll actually present
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  Speaker 1: evidence from both sides. But again, he has already confessed.
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  Speaker 1: He's already given a complete statement to the police. That's
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  Speaker 1: how we know all the information we already know. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Dan Horror, what's California defense attorney? If
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  Speaker 1: I were the defense attorney, I would waive that hearing
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  Speaker 1: yesterday because a grand jury can indict him without a
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  Speaker 1: preliminary hearing. All this is going to do is to
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  Speaker 1: make public more incendiary evidence against the perp, the alleged perp,
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  Speaker 1: and all they have to do is waive it and
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  Speaker 1: take the grandjury indictment. His big problem is getting killed
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  Speaker 1: in prison. I mean, this guy is the number one
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  Speaker 1: target of every prisoner in the system. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: have to be selled to loan, kept in isolation. The
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  Speaker 1: good thing about this guy, he'll be tortured by loneliness
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  Speaker 1: all the time that he languishes in prison. They'll give
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  Speaker 1: him the death penalty, maybe in thirty years, which doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean anything, but he's going to have a very hard
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  Speaker 1: time on the insight. Hey, they don't have the death
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  Speaker 1: penalty there, and he was already lonely because he was
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  Speaker 1: living up in a cabin all by himself in a lumbertown.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even in his high school photos, it shows
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  Speaker 1: the whole group of this class, and then he's doing
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  Speaker 1: a crazy photo and then he's off in the corner
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  Speaker 1: looking up from a book. So long story short to
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  Speaker 1: doctor Brian Russell, not only psychologist but lawyer as well,
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  Speaker 1: host of IDE's Fatal Vows, Doctor Brian, one thing they
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  Speaker 1: will get the defense will get out of a preliminary
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  Speaker 1: hearing is they'll see the state's a blueprint to their case,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll get to cross examine some of the state's
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  Speaker 1: witness get the first swing at the ball for the defense.
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  Speaker 1: They will, But I agree with you. If I were
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  Speaker 1: representing this guy, I think I'd be waiving this because
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  Speaker 1: I think that benefit is not really going to be
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  Speaker 1: that enlightening for them. I think even we hear on
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  Speaker 1: the show pretty well know what the state's blueprint for
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  Speaker 1: price getting the case is going to be. Vincent Hill,
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  Speaker 1: private an investigator, former cop, author of Playbook to a Murder.
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  Speaker 1: I still say the defense for their reasons and the
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  Speaker 1: state for their reasons need to weigh the preliminary hearing.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently they're not going to because this gives the defense.
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  Speaker 1: You've been on the stand for the state and then
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  Speaker 1: cross examine. This gives the defense a perfect opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: go fishing to find anything wrong and consistent, any problem,
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  Speaker 1: a potential way to get those confessions suppressed. They're going
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  Speaker 1: to have the state's witnesses on the stand on cross
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  Speaker 1: examination under oath. Yeah, Nancy, I think we all agree.
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  Speaker 1: I would wave it. Not only can the defense look
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  Speaker 1: for holes, I mean they can start pointing fingers and
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  Speaker 1: say the police botched investigation. I mean the police were
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  Speaker 1: responding he's leaving the scene in a car. They don't
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  Speaker 1: go after the car. So there's so much that they
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  Speaker 1: can come out with in this preliminary hearing. I would
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  Speaker 1: waive it if I was his attorney as well. So
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  Speaker 1: Dave Matt with me sindicate to talk show host bottom
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  Speaker 1: Line Patterson Jake Patterson, Jamie Claus's alleged kidnapper. The murderer
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  Speaker 1: offered two parents in court. What will happen after that?
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  Speaker 1: Dave mac this basic hearing today is his first time
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  Speaker 1: in front of a judge they'll then bind it over
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  Speaker 1: and they'll set a court date. What they'll do today
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  Speaker 1: is probably talk about not only the confession, but also
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  Speaker 1: forensic evidence they obtained at the scene in that remote
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  Speaker 1: logging cabin, and that really gives a preview to the
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  Speaker 1: defense as to what they're going to do at trial. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all eyes on that courtroom. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: The victim was found bound at the hands and at
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  Speaker 1: the feet, and the victim was found in a suitcase.
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  Speaker 1: The body of the woman, believed to be between eighteen
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  Speaker 1: and thirty years old, was discovered along Glenville Road in
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  Speaker 1: Greenwich by a highway worker. While they believe this is
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  Speaker 1: a homicide, they do not know the cause of death.
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  Speaker 1: Have received some leads on some i would say possible
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  Speaker 1: identifications of the victim, but at this point nothing is confirmed,
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  Speaker 1: so I have no information to release actually identifying the victim,
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  Speaker 1: but we are following up some leads. The gruesome discovery
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  Speaker 1: is both unusual and upsetting here in the picturesque Glenville
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  Speaker 1: section of this affluent community. It was very upsetting when
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  Speaker 1: we originally heard about it. The road in a quiet area,
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  Speaker 1: is somewhat isolated. According to local residents who use it
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  Speaker 1: for running and walking. Joel Legro lives nearby. I'm still
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  Speaker 1: trying to take this in because i just heard about
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  Speaker 1: it a few minutes ago. I mean, I've got kids here,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't know if it was an adult or
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  Speaker 1: a child. An extensive crime scene was established at least
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  Speaker 1: do not believe the death occurred at the site. As
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  Speaker 1: they try to positively identify the victim, they do reveal
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  Speaker 1: she had been constrained. They are also looking for useful video.
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  Speaker 1: This gas station is just up the road. They will
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  Speaker 1: check it on a couple days. We'll probably saying, I
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  Speaker 1: guess special people here to check the surveillance. Hopefully they'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it and we'll figure out
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  Speaker 1: what the explanation is. And unfortunate that it should happen anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: You're hearing our friends at w ABC. That is Tim
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  Speaker 1: Fleischer reporting speaking to a guy who owns a gas
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  Speaker 1: station right up the street, Anthony Zachaquino. A young woman's
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  Speaker 1: body has been found in a suitcase in an upscale area.
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  Speaker 1: I Meanancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us as you were hearing that recent pressor.
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  Speaker 1: We now know it is a female body. Greenwich, Connecticut
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  Speaker 1: is one of the wealthiest areas in the entire United States.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the top twenty list of the wealthiest zip codes.
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  Speaker 1: And that's according to Bloomberg News. The average adjusted growth
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  Speaker 1: that's after taxes, after deductions is nearly a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: That's the averages around six fifty to seven hundred thousand dollars. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what rich person killed a woman, dismembered her and stuck
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  Speaker 1: her in a suitcase or as you heard, cops don't
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  Speaker 1: think this is the primary crime scene. This is at
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  Speaker 1: least the secondary crime scene, if not the tertiary. And
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  Speaker 1: what I mean by that is killed somewhere, putting a
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  Speaker 1: suitcase somewhere, disposed of somewhere, maybe abducted from a vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many possibilities. The breaking news right now, a
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  Speaker 1: woman's a young woman's body has been found in a
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  Speaker 1: suitcase on the side of a Connecticut road. You can
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  Speaker 1: tell it is a young woman's body by an examination
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  Speaker 1: of the hips and believe it or not, of the
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  Speaker 1: teeth straight out to John Linley, Crime online dot Com
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter, also with me renowned to California Defense attorney
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Horowitz, psychologist, lawyer, host of investigation Discoveries hit series
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  Speaker 1: Fatal Vows, doctor Brian Russell, and cop turned private investigator.
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  Speaker 1: Author of playbook to a Murder on Amazon Vincent Heel,
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  Speaker 1: John Limley fill me in. A woman's body stuffed in
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  Speaker 1: a suitcase by the side of the road. That's pretty bold,
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  Speaker 1: exactly and not what a road crew was expecting when
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  Speaker 1: they were working Tuesday morning along Glenville Road in Greenwich, Connecticut.
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  Speaker 1: This is a beautiful area, this stretch of road, especially wooded,
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  Speaker 1: running through an affluent community. It's one of those places
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  Speaker 1: where people every fall come from around the country to
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  Speaker 1: snap pictures of the autumn leaves. Now, this was around
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  Speaker 1: eight fifteen Tuesday morning. One of the highway crew members
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  Speaker 1: saw something large and dark just off the road, about
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  Speaker 1: ten to fifteen feet off Glennville Road. When he got closer,
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  Speaker 1: he realized it was a really big suit case. He
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of his crew member colleagues opened the
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  Speaker 1: suitcase and what they found inside was horrific. As we've mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: it was a young woman and her hands and feet
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  Speaker 1: had been bound and she was stuffed into that suit case.
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  Speaker 1: Guys joining me John Linley Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
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  Speaker 1: We're learning a lot if you have information two zero
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  Speaker 1: three six two two three three three three repeat the
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  Speaker 1: Greenwich Police two zero three six two two three three
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  Speaker 1: three three. In addition to what John Linley is telling
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  Speaker 1: us to Vison Hill cop turned PI, I know this
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  Speaker 1: she was fully clothed. That may rule out sex assault
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  Speaker 1: or she may have been re clothed. Was a red suitcase,
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  Speaker 1: which makes a difference. It's more distinctive. Even we know
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  Speaker 1: when you're at the airport and the baggage what do
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  Speaker 1: you call it, jackie baggage claim, they all are the
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  Speaker 1: same black toomey, a black samp tonight, a black rollerboard.
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  Speaker 1: This is a red suitcase. We also know this woman
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  Speaker 1: is eighteen to thirty years old. Now that may sound
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  Speaker 1: like a big span, that's twelve years, but actually it's
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  Speaker 1: very significant. Okay, you're ruling out everybody thirty and above,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen and under Vincent Hill, private and guests together, former
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  Speaker 1: cop way in Well, Nancy, here's the great thing in
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  Speaker 1: this tragedy. Maybe that suitcase will lead to who the
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  Speaker 1: owner was, if it's a designer suitcase or something that
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  Speaker 1: is not too common. You can find that, you can
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  Speaker 1: track down who purchased it, where they purchased it from.
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  Speaker 1: And also, Nancy, even though this was Connecticut, it's supposedly
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  Speaker 1: winter time. If you look at the steel footage, there's
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of snow, doesn't appear to be wet,
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  Speaker 1: So that's going to preserve any DNA left behind. And
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  Speaker 1: let's not forget the DNA that could be on her
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  Speaker 1: clothes as touch DNA, trace DNA, things of that nature.
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  Speaker 1: So I think investigators have a lot to work with here. Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: even though the murder did not occur there, we know
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  Speaker 1: that you can trace that based on DNA, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: there's some surveillance footage in the area. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you're a cop turned Pi Vinca Hill
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  Speaker 1: because the police additionally says it's very difficult to tell
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  Speaker 1: how long she has been dead because of environmental issues,
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  Speaker 1: fluctuating temperaturrors in that area. When the victim was found,
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  Speaker 1: this horrific discovery has shot local residence. They say, I
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  Speaker 1: open up at six o'clock in the morning. By eight o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: I see cop cars. Customers come down and say, somebody
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  Speaker 1: found a body in the suitcase. That's what the gas
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  Speaker 1: station owner is saying to Daniel Harrowitz. I know you're
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  Speaker 1: dancing up and down the halls of your defense lawyer office,
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  Speaker 1: doing a little jig because they can't tell much from
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  Speaker 1: the body because the fluctuating temperatures. Her body is now decomposing.
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  Speaker 1: That may get rid of DNA. Daniel Harrowitz again, I'm
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  Speaker 1: dealing with a rule full of prosecutors who are suspicious
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  Speaker 1: and think this is a murder. Why do you think
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  Speaker 1: this is a murder? Oh wait, wait, wait wait, please stop,
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  Speaker 1: please stop, Jackie, please get off the ground. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: dangerous when you just fall over like that, like you're
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  Speaker 1: fainting every time Daniel Harrowitz says something suspicious. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think she killed herself then folded herself into a suitcase.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy David thinks, then maybe she's at a house she
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  Speaker 1: dies of a drug overdose. They are afraid of getting
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  Speaker 1: in trouble. They put her in a crazy suitcase like
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  Speaker 1: that dumper where she's going to be found. They're not
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  Speaker 1: covering up any evidence. It is not what you do
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  Speaker 1: if you kill somebody. But you're jumping to conclusions like
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  Speaker 1: you always do. Like your guests always do. It could
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  Speaker 1: be something very explainable and not a murder. That's the truth,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it. I don't know any such of
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  Speaker 1: a thing, doctor Brian Russell. I think right now I
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  Speaker 1: do need a shrink, even though, yes, as you've told
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  Speaker 1: me many times, you're also a lawyer and the host
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  Speaker 1: of a famous TV show investigation Discoveries Fatal Vows. I
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  Speaker 1: know that. But doctor Brian Russell, dummy down for me
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  Speaker 1: and explain why Daniel Horrowitz is oh so wrong yet again.
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  Speaker 1: So we have a young woman's body found bound in
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  Speaker 1: a suitcase on the side of a road. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go out on a bound in a Suitcasewitz. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go out on a limb here and say that this
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  Speaker 1: was not a young woman who passed away natural causes
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  Speaker 1: at the age of eighteen to thirty. The victim found
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  Speaker 1: bound at the hands and at the feet, and the
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  Speaker 1: victim was found in a suitcase. The victim has now
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  Speaker 1: since been ruled from the scene. We have received numerous
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  Speaker 1: public tips, which is very appreciative. We are following up
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  Speaker 1: on each and every one of them. We do want
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  Speaker 1: to encourage the public to continue to call on those tips.
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  Speaker 1: The Grass Police does have a tip line. That's area
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  Speaker 1: code two zero three six two two three three three three. Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: please get out the professor. I mean, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that Daniel Harrowitz heard what doctor Bryan
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  Speaker 1: Russell was just saying. Daniel Horror, what's renowned California defense attorney.
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  Speaker 1: Now you understand why because if he can get just
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  Speaker 1: one person on a jury to buy into these any theories,
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  Speaker 1: he's got it made, he catches another chit ching, big
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  Speaker 1: fat check from a criminal. Doctor Brian Russell, you were
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  Speaker 1: right in the middle of pointing out where the chief
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  Speaker 1: of police was just saying, and that is accidental natural causes.
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  Speaker 1: She was bound back to doctor Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: host of Id's Fatal Vows, Doctor Brian, why is this
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  Speaker 1: no accident or natural cause? Is like she had a
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  Speaker 1: stroke and just fell into a suitcase. We've got a
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  Speaker 1: young woman found bound inside of a suitcase on the
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  Speaker 1: side of the road. And I went out on a
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  Speaker 1: limb and said, now I'm gonna I'm gonna go out
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  Speaker 1: on a limb and say this is not somebody who
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  Speaker 1: died of natural causes at age eighteen to thirty. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I will agree with one thing that Daniel said, which
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  Speaker 1: is that there was not a great effort made here
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  Speaker 1: to conceal this body. We're talking about a body in
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  Speaker 1: a red suitcase on the side of the road, and
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  Speaker 1: that makes me wonder whether or not this body was
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  Speaker 1: meant to be found, and whether or not there's a
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  Speaker 1: tie to this community and others, perhaps family members. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: to whom this young woman was tied is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be getting a message here, is supposed to be finding
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  Speaker 1: her deceased body. Well, here's another question to John Limley.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't anyone commented or notice somebody is missing? Because no
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  Speaker 1: one seems to have commented missing persons reports is one
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  Speaker 1: thing that police are going through right now. So far
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  Speaker 1: nothing has come up. They've been interviewing local residents, seeking
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  Speaker 1: even video footage from security systems for clues. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: the problem here is that this particular stretch of road
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  Speaker 1: is not within sight of nearby residences. Most of the
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  Speaker 1: residences there are what we would probably call mansions and
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  Speaker 1: do have great security systems, but if it's out of sight,
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  Speaker 1: you can't see it. This is a small depression on
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  Speaker 1: the east side of Glenville Road. Interestingly, it's you're a
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  Speaker 1: small area adjoining the road where a car could park
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  Speaker 1: and possibly not be seen. Hey, Nancy, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: expand the search the radius of the missing person. Let's
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  Speaker 1: not forget how close Connecticut is to New York, so
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  Speaker 1: we're assuming this person is local. I would expand that
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: search at least fifty to one hundred mile radius of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: any reported missing persons that match that description. Take listen
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to our friends at NBC. The gruesome discovery shut down
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: this busy road in one of the wealthiest communities in
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the nation, highway workers finding the body of a young woman,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: fully clothed, stuffed in a suitcase, her hands and feet bound.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Our focus right now is obtaining that identification of the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: victim so that a proper notification can be done to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the next of ken. Please believe the victim is between
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: eighteen and thirty years old. We have received some leads
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: on some I would say, possible identifications of the victim,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: but at this point nothing is confirmed. Greenwitch is home
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to many rich and famous residents, a beautiful area of
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Connecticut dubbed the Gold Coast. For some news of a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: young woman found dead trigger memories of another high profile
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: crime more than forty years ago. Martha Moxley was killed
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five, bludgeoned and stabbed with a golf club.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: She was last seen with Robert F. Kennedy's nephew, Michael Skeekell,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: who was fifteen at the time. Skekell would eventually be
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: convicted of the crime nearly three decades later. He always
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: maintained his innocence, and the Connecticut Supreme Court eventually vacated
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that conviction, leaving the case unresolved. Now residents are faced
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: with another murder and so far very little to go on.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Police say they don't know how this young woman died
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: or where. They do not believe she was killed on
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the side of the road. This is going to be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a long, methodical process. We want to make sure we
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: do things correctly and have verified a little information before
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: we put anything out. You're hearing our friends at NBC
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: News on the Greenwich murder mystery, that search for a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: killer after a young woman's body is found. That leads
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: me to a host of questions regarding evidence. To Daniel Horrowitz,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: California defense attorney, you have defended many murder cases I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: have prosecuted many. Outside the body, the first thing you
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: look at is the suitcase. You determine the type, where
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it's sold, if it has any identification on it or
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: around it, in it, anything that would identify her or
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: where it came from. Then you look at her clothing.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: What is she wearing, where did it come from or
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: did she still have on shoes? What is the condition
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: of the bottom of her feet. So many issues here,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and regarding her decomposing body. Her fingernails, of course, would
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: not be decomposing. I'd be interested to find out if
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: there's any DNA under her fingernails. That's something that we
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: may be able to, let me say, scavenge. That may
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: be evidence that is there for us to obtain. Daniel Horowitz, Well,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you agree with me, Nancy, since being bound,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: your great theory of murder was that her hands were bound.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Now you figure her fingernails have something under them because
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: she's scratched. So you're contradicting yourself because you don't know
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: who she is. You know that they deliberately dumped her
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: somewhere where she could be found. I ask you the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: contradiction the fact that she is bound at her hands
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and her feet does not preclude the fact that she
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: may have scratched her attacker before she was killed. Taking
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: totally consisting a big fuss about how rich the community is.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You're making a big fuss that when she's found dead
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: or the change, and then you change your mind to say, well,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: maybe her hands weren't tied, she scratched and they tied
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to her up after she died. You don't know what happened,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: so stop guessing and making something out of this that
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's great. You know if you if
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you find somebody involved with this, you'll be all over
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: them saying the murderers. You don't know what happened, So
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: don't jump to conclusions now based on a shred of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: evidence that you contradicted yourself. Somebody has been in the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: huge this morning, correct Daniel Harrowitz, Doctor Bryan Russell. At
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: any point did I say any of the things Daniel
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Harrowitz just suggested, or have I lost my mind yet again?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: You haven't lost your mind. I think that Daniel is
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: doing the best contortion I can imagine anybody doing to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: try to make this be anything but a really horrific homicide,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and I actually it smacks to of the stuff of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: mafia movies, where you know, of course this is total speculation,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: but you know, wife catches husband cheating with young woman,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and wife's wife's brother is in the mob, and you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the young woman ends up close to a husband and
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: wife's house in a suitcase as a message that the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: husband better quit messing around on the wife or else
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he'll be in the next suitcase something like that. Yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: somebody's been watching a little too much HBO and Netflix.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the mafia being part of this,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: although that is a possible theory. That's the possible theory.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: But John Limley, right now, wrap it up for me.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: What do we know? Right now? They are working on
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: some leads. Now, this is not a missing person's reports.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: This is from the community. People have tips that they
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: have already called in and according to police, this is
• 25:58
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• 26:06
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• 27:25
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  Speaker 1: know somebody knows where she's at. Somebody has seen her.
• 27:39
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• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to recognize than to say something. Has she ever disappeared before? No? No,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I can't think of anywhere she's ever gone that. She
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: hasn't told me that. It's just not in her character
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to just take off and be gone. Thanksgiving is the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: last known time Kelsey Barrett was seen in public. It
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: was at this Safeway store where she was captured by
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the store's security cameras. Cheryl Barrett says she spoke with
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Kelsey by phone that day twice. What did you talk
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: about that day? Oh, it was just small things, and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: initially she needed a recipe Based on that conversation, there
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: was nothing to make you believe there is anything wrong exactly. Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Her voice was fine, she was, Yeah, she was. It
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: was a normal day for her. I've looked at that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: video over and over and over trying to get any
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: kind of clue about where is missing Colorado Mom Kelsey
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Barrett leaving behind her taught girl Kelly she would never
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: have done that. And she is no prom queen hiding
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: behind her tiara and her lipstick. She's a flight instructor,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: just bought her own town home all on her own,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: taking care of her little girl, and seeing her fiance
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: now called the killer fiance, Patrick Frazy. Where is she?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: The only clue we have is her cell phone pinging
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: about eight hundred miles away in Gooding, Idaho, near Twin Falls,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and then enter the scene a rodeo loving mom of
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: two divorcee who apparently met Kelsey's fiance on the rodeo circuit.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: She's heading to court. That's right, the rodeo mom of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: two is heading to court. But why, I'm Nancy Grace.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: This is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Listen to our friend at Fox thirty one. The connection
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: between Barett and Lee is Patrick Frazy. He was the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: now deceased Beareth's boyfriend and father to their one year
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: old child, and, according to acquaintances, also dating Lee. Police
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: believe Phrasie killed Bareth then hit her body on Thanksgiving Day.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Bareth's cell phone was turned on after she died, pining
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the cell tower near Twin Falls where Lee lives. Lee
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: is not in custody and Fox thirty one can't find
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: any criminal charges pending on public court documents, yet her
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: scheduled appearance in Teller County indicates she's cut a plea deal.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: A plea deal to what dating a killer. We don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: know where Kelsey Bear's body is. We know nothing about
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: where her remains maybe hidden. We do know that her
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: family has brought a lawsuit for wrongful death against the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: killer fiancee, and in one moment, I'm going to Alan
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Duke on that there's movement there but Ellen killorin with
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. You can find
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Ellen's work and all other breaking crime in justice news
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: at crime online dot Com. We've been on this since
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the get go, when Kelsey beat first went missing. Ek
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: why is as I like to say, the rodeo loving
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: divorce a mom of two showing up in court pleading
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: guilty to what? On Friday, Crystal Lee Kenney is due
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in courts. She is expected to enter into a plea deal.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: KOA reported overnight that she is expected to face one
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: count of tampering with physical evidence. We don't know exactly
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: what that count is related to specifically, but there are
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: certainly indications that investigators believe Kenny may have disposed of
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Bareth's cell phone two days after Bareth went missing on
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day. This is what we know. This nurse apparently
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: met the fiance Patrick Frasy. Some call him the killer
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: fiance on the rodeo circuit. He is a rancher, so
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that's not unusual. They struck up a love relationship. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: don't know why he didn't just break up with Kelsey Bareth,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: but I can guarantee you this to Kathleen Murphy, North
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Carolina family and divorce law. Your boy, they sure could
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: have used you. Kathleen, She's not pleading for nothing, all right.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: She's going to have to be cutting a deal or
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: she's facing hard jail time on this thing. And I'm
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: very happy that they've got her over a barrel, so
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to speak, because Patrick Patrick Frazy's not giving up a
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Frezy whatever his name is, is not giving up anything.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: He's not talking. She has a lot of information, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: with the information that we get from her, we still
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: don't have the body. And that's track. I know her
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: little girl is going to grow up not knowing what
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: happened to mommy. Karen Start, you're the psychologist, Karen Start
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: at Karen Start dot com joining us from Manhattan today, Karen,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to grow up not knowing anything about your mom, knowing
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: nothing like Karen. You remember when the Twins, when I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: was covering the top Mom Casey Anthony trial and we
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: had to all, yeah, who could forget that? We all
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: had to move to Orlando for the duration of the trial,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: before it and after it, and at that time we
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: would take the twins to Disneyland is a land or
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: World in Florida, det Well, Disney. It went to Disney
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: every other day, okay, And they remember practically nothing of that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: They have vague recollections of pulling ears, tail and things
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: like that, or chasing piggling around, but they remember very
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: little of that. And I'm just thinking about this little girl.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: She's going to grow up. She's never going to remember
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: her mother, Kelsey, who is awesome. She's beautiful, she's a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: flight instructor, she bought her own home. She does it all.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: There were cinnamon rolls warming on the counter when her
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: brother showed up that day looking for her. She took
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: care of her daughter, I mean everything. She was superwoman.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: And this child, Kelly will never know her because of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: this jackass Patrick Frazy according to police. Karen, I mean,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: how's that going to affect her well? In addition to
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: which fancy, I mean, she will not remember her. They're
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: absolutely right. And who was her father? You know, there's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: nobody for this little girl. But she will be okay,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: as long as the memory of her mother has kept
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: alive that the people that can still be there with
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: her but will constantly talk about her and show her
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: pictures and videos, whatever they can do to keep the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: memory alive for her because she will want to know
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and remember as much. This is what I know about
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Miss Chrystal Lee, aged thirty two years old. She as
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Ellen Colorna, is reporting a scheduled to appear in Colorado
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a courtroom Friday morning eight thirty am. She's going to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: enter a plea deal with prosecutors. According to two of
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: her relatives, who spoke anonymously, the deal has not been
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: made public. They say she's been cooperating with investigators and
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the investigators are looking into claim she disposed of evidence,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: specifically Kelsey Bearer's cell phone. Hello, it pained right where
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: she lives at Twin Falls, Idaho. Long story short, this
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: woman facing one kind of tampering with physical evidence. It's
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a Class six fellas knee punishable by eighteen months behind bars.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Unless she wants to do that and maybe a whole
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: lot more, she better cooperate. So what do you expect
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: her to offer an exchange for a sweet deal? Kathleen Murphy,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you're the lawyer. I think that she's gonna make a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: plea deal for no jail time because she has a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: new child herself, and if she goes into this without
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: jail time, then she's gonna be able to leave it
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: all behind. But I would be very disappointed if she
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: got no disappointed as a nurse at Saint Luke's Magic
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Valley Medical Center there in Twin Falls, Idaho. But the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: hospital spokesperson says an individual by that name no longer
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: works at the hospital. That's what we know what is
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: going to happen in court Friday morning. As i've right
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: now see Barrett or her remains have not been discovered.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Now we know in another development, we know that Crystal Lee,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: who is reportedly having an affair with a killer fiance,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: is going to be in court Friday morning to play guilty.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: But to what and why? Listen to our friends and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Inside edition, did this nurse help murder suspect Patrick Frazy
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: dispose of the cell phone belonging to his fiance. Her
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: name is Crystal Lee and she is a registered nurse
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it Twin Falls, Idaho. Published reports say the FBI is
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: investigating her in connection with Kelsey Barrett's disappearance. Lee lives
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: about thirty five miles from where the missing mom's cell
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: phone last painted, three days after she was seen at
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a supermarket on Thanksgiving Day. Here's what we know about Lee.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: She is thirty two years old and a divorced mother
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: of two. She is active in rodeo and was once
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: crowned Miss Magic Valley Stampede Queen. She and Frazy reportedly
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: met at a rodeo. He's a blacks. The nature of
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Crystal Lee's relationship with Patrick Frazy is unclear, and authorities
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: have not confirmed that they are investigating. League. Victoria Racanio
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: is in Twin Falls. According to one report, they've known
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: each other for years and were romantically involved. Crystal Lee
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: works at Saint Luke's Medical Center as a pre opt nurse.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: A spokeswoman confirms she is now on a leave of absence.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett's parents have filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Frazy for his actions to murder and or collaboration to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: murder their daughter. This woman, Crystal Lee, the Mismagic Valley
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Stampede Queen, is going to be in court on Friday
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: morning at eight thirty two. Aladte we heard that the parents.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Kelsey's parents have filed a wrongful death action against killer fiance,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Patrick Frazie. What do you know about that well, A
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: source close to the legal team assures me that the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: lawsuit will go on, but expect them to withdraw it
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: soon from federal court because they don't want to impede
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the criminal investigation. If they were to proceed with more
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: hearings and discovery, it would reveal some information that they
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: believe police do not want revealed yet, so they are
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: going to pull it and then refile it later. Take
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a listen. This is how Crystal Lee, the former Mismagic
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Valley Stampede queen, was found out. Joe and Patty Rosall
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: say they called the FBI after learning disturbing details about
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the disappearance of Kelsey Barrett. They claim they learned the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: information from a close friend of Crystal Lee. Lee allegedly
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: had a relationship with Barrett's fiance, Patrick Frazy Crazy is
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: now charge of Barrett's murder, even though her body hasn't
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: been found. Nikobatis is here with the expanding, twisting and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: turning investigation. Nicki. Good morning, good morning, Good morning everyone,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a source tells CBS News The FBI questioned Crystal Lee
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: regarding her possible role in Kelsey Barrett's disappearance and that
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: she is cooperating with authorities. Her alleged connection to Patrick
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Free is offering new insight into what may have happened.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: She was in love with him from a very young age.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Pattie and Joe Rockstall say one of their employees, who
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: was Crystal Lee's best friend, told him that Lee and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Patrick Frazy had a relationship that began just after high school.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: him and he took advantage of that. He was her
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: first love. I understand, and Yanna hold on her. The
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Rockstalls say they were told Lee, a nurse from Idaho
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and mother, visited Frazy as recently as November, the month
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: his fiance Kelsey Barreth vanished. They claimed their employee says
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Frazy threatened Lee and she may have helped him dispose
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: of evidence. Do you know what the threats were? Patrick
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: told Crystal that little girls go missing off the playground
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: all the time. Crystal was so scared. He was so
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: angry that he said things that made Crystal think he
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: had killed before. So of course she's going to be terrifying.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: The Rockstalls say they were told Phrasey Astley three times
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: as early as October to help kill Barett, but Lee refused.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: From what Cristel said, what was Patrick Phrasie's motive that
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: he felt that Kelsey was going to harm the child,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that she was crazy? Is Crystal Lee a murderer? I
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: don't believe so, I don't. Barett was last seen on
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: this surveillance video at a grocery store in Colorado on
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day with her and Phrase's one year old daughter.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Three days later, police say Barett's cell phone pinned nearly
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: six hundred miles away in Gooding, Idaho. Several texts were
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: sent from the phone, including one to her employer saying
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: she would be away for a week and another to Phrasey.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Do you think Krystal Lee sent those texts? I do.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: She had the phone. She was probably instructed to send
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: those texts by Patrick, but that there's nobody else that
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: could have sent those texts to my knowledge. Why would
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Cristell Lee, a nurse with children, helped Patrick Frazy cover
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: up the murder of his fiance. I think she was
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: afraid and I think she got in over her head.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: She was in love with Patrick. And we've all heard
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the stories of what people will do for love. You
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: are hearing our friends at CBS as they were reporting
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: and speaking with Patty and Joe Rockstall there in Idaho,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and they're telling the story. The Rockstalls are telling the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: story of this nurse, Crystal Lee, who had been in
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: love with Patrick Frazie, the so called killer fiance, for
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: so long and at first refused to help. You know
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, psychologist, You can find her at Karen Stark
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: dot com. What people do for love? I mean, she
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: had to know that Patrick Frasy meant to kill Kelsey Barrett.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And if he thought that Kelsey was harming their daughter
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: in any way, he could have reported it and gotten
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the child himself. He didn't do that. He wanted her dead.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I think there was a money motive. They may have
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: been a motive, but in cases like this, you're talking
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: about a person the personality where it's just very convenient
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: for him to kill them. They actually he might even
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: get off the fact that he gets to kill her
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately received it. In a lot of cases, people
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: do really really insane things when they were in love.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: You know they say that love can make you crazy, Well,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: this is an instance of that where she's devoted to
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the man that she'll do anything. I want to go
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: back to Ellen colorin joining us. Oh hold on, I'm
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: just being joined right now by forensics expert out of Florida,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Karen Smith. Karen, how do you think they put it
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: all together? And what do you expect to learn from
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the texts and the paying data. I think that that
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: cellphone pag Nancy was the key to this case. You know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: it payed twenty five miles from Crystal Lee's house in
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Twin Falls, Idaho. They linked Crystal Lee back to path
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Trick Crazy probably. You know, she's going to be the
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: weak link in the chain here, which is why she's
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: getting this plea deal for apparently tampering with physical evidence.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: So what they're going to do is question her what
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: did you do with her cell phone? Did you throw
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it at a dumpster? Did you throw it in a river?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: What did you do with it? When did you have it?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: What did you know? And when they're going to go
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: back and question her about Patrick Frazy, what is he like?
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: When's the last time that you saw Kelsey Barretts when's
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the last time you saw Patrick Frazy All of these questions,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: not only those small details, but basically, did Patrick Frazie
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: confide in her? You know, she was a trust and confidant.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Not only that, but according to reports, he was threatening
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: her and her daughter to keep her over a barrel.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: It's a very complex case and law enforcement has their
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: work cut out. I'm just hoping that at some point somebody,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: maybe Crystal Lee, if she knows, will come for us
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: with where Kelsey Barrett's body is so that she can
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: put to rest. Well, another thing, they need her, Kathleen Murphy,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: North Carolina family and divorce lawyer, because he Patrick Frasy
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: is charged with murder and solicitation, She's obviously the one
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he's solicited. They need her, They need her, and that
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: goes back to my earlier comment. She's probably shooting for
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: no jail time because of her children, but I think
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the police department and the detectives hold all the cards.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: You can get thirty years or you can get fifteen years,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: but she's got to get something. She's got to get something,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: but not at the expense of Kelsey's family. We wait
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: as justice unfolds on Friday morning, oh eight thirty Nancy
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Grace Crime Story is signing off Goodbye friend,