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Bracket Season: 2026 OHL Playoff Preview - The OHL in 60 Podcast · The Armchair GM's Sports Network

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Armchair GM Sports Network.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the first playoff edition of the Ohl and
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Speaker 2: sixty Podcast with Colin Ward. I'm Reice Domini BC is
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Speaker 2: with us as well, with the mic turned on in
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Speaker 2: case he has anything to add, which he will throughout
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Speaker 2: Hope you enjoyed the regular season because it kind of
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Speaker 2: flew by, so Jen, you know, as much as we
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Speaker 2: enjoy the full grind of sixty eight games, this is
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Speaker 2: still our favorite time of the year. Might be one
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Speaker 2: of our favorite episodes to record all year. It's up
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Speaker 2: there anyways, Trade Dadline Draft, Yeah, probably top three, those
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Speaker 2: three and then the playoff playoff show. I would I
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Speaker 2: would say that's probably top three there. Bye of the year, yeah,
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Speaker 2: true true, yeah, top four. Yeah, that makes sense. But
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Speaker 2: we've got a we've got a jam pack show. This
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Speaker 2: one is longer as always every single year we go
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Speaker 2: over sixty minutes. Shout out to Mike Farrewell, what a
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Speaker 2: stud beauty voice of the Kitchen Rangers. This will be
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Speaker 2: longer than sixty minutes, I can tell you that. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was just like normal. We we go back to
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Speaker 2: our playoff format. It's not gonna be every Monday that
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Speaker 2: or every Tuesday, I should say every Monday recording, but
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Speaker 2: every Tuesday release. It'll be after every round. So so
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Speaker 2: we will talk for ninety minutes here. Round one will
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Speaker 2: carry out, then we will chat about Round one preview,
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Speaker 2: Round number two and so on and so forth. So
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Speaker 2: here's what the lineup is for for this week's show.
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Speaker 2: Ohl headlines not a ton to get to, but more
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Speaker 2: end of season awards, milestones, stuff like that, you know.
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Speaker 2: And then some news dropped last week that nineteen year
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Speaker 2: olds are headed to the AHL if they're first rounders.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a conversation about that. That'll be really interesting.
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Speaker 2: I think that might be the fun on the shit
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Speaker 2: O to be honest with you. UH, Draft Lottery simulation.
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Speaker 2: This will be after our our commercial break, So draft
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Speaker 2: Lottery simulation the final one before we before the Draft
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Speaker 2: lottery takes place, which we've got some news on for
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Speaker 2: you as well. And then we look ahead to round one. UH,
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Speaker 2: the eight matchups for in the West, for in the
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Speaker 2: East Before that, we're gonna touch on the four teams
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Speaker 2: that missed the playoffs and and kind of run through
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Speaker 2: what we would like to see from them in the
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Speaker 2: off season and maybe what some of their fans would
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Speaker 2: like to see from them in the off season. So,
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Speaker 2: without further ado, let's let's get to it and and
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Speaker 2: let's kick things off with Eastern Rye. And it feels
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Speaker 2: like we've uh talked about Eastern Rye a number of
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Speaker 2: times throughout this season. Worth it, Like, I mean, when
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Speaker 2: when you look at goaltenders in the ohl and and
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Speaker 2: not necessarily that Eastern Rye has had a bounce back season,
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Speaker 2: it's more than Peterborough Pets have had to bounce back season.
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Speaker 2: I think Eastern Rye we just we just saw kind
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Speaker 2: of the result of a poor blue line, just not
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Speaker 2: a good team overall. And unfortunately, it doesn't make a
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Speaker 2: difference what goalies in the in the net, They're probably
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Speaker 2: gonna get shelled more times than not. But I would
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Speaker 2: say Eastern Rye is a big contributor as to why
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Speaker 2: the Peterborough Pets got homice advantage in Round one and
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Speaker 2: why they finished as the four seed when a lot
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Speaker 2: of people, myself included had them from seventh eighth potentially sixth.
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Speaker 2: So again Eastern Rye breaking more records for the Peterborough Pets.
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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, I mean Eastern Rye is great for them.
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Speaker 3: Thirty eight wins on the year, that's the record. I
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Speaker 3: mean incredible. I mean even last year. You look back
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Speaker 3: to last year where the peach were in the standings,
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Speaker 3: he still went ten to fourteen and two and one.
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Speaker 3: I mean on the worst team in the league. To
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Speaker 3: have a nine to two, say percentage is unbelievable. So
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Speaker 3: Eastern ries always kept them in games. Eastern Rye, I
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Speaker 3: mean any thinking about the Peterborough Pets in that one
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Speaker 3: game with the Erie Otters. And he's an incredible goaltender.
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Speaker 3: He's competitive, not the i mean six foot not the
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Speaker 3: biggest goaltenders nowadays, but he's competitive as heck. He's gonna
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Speaker 3: he's gonna work his butt off. You're not gonna go
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Speaker 3: in there and put up a five spot against Easton
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Speaker 3: Rye because he doesn't give up five goals in the
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Speaker 3: game very often. He's very consistent in that way too.
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Speaker 3: I've really enjoyed his development. It reminds me a lot
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Speaker 3: of what Michael Simpson was like coming up through the
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Speaker 3: Peterborough ranks as well. And now that you're in your
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Speaker 3: prime of year career here in the Antreil Hockey League
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Speaker 3: and you look at the effectiveness on his career, I
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Speaker 3: mean he's been great.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Uh Next up breaking records. Jacobrien from the Branford
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Speaker 2: Bulldogs is the all time leading scorer in Brantford Bulldog's history.
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Speaker 2: Was able to help the help the Bulldogs secure the
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Speaker 2: Hamilton Spectator Trophy with a six or five win over
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Speaker 2: the North Bay Battalion. But he passes Patrick Thomas in
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Speaker 2: way less games. And that's no disrespect to to Patrick
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Speaker 2: Thomas whatsoever. He was such a phenomenal player, such a
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Speaker 2: great guy to talk to off the ice. But Jacobrien
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Speaker 2: is just a talent that doesn't come around very often.
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Speaker 2: And the Bulldogs have had their fair share of stars
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Speaker 2: go on to the to the next level. You think
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Speaker 2: of mc tavish, albeit he was only there for half
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Speaker 2: a season. Nick lardis scoring seventy goals and now he
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Speaker 2: is fully part of the Blackhawks plan for next season
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Speaker 2: out of training camp. But jac O'Brien two hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty five career points, seventy three of those are goals,
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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty two of those are assists. That's
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Speaker 2: just in one hundred and eighty games. That is I
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Speaker 2: think it's very, very impressive.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I spoke with Jake and his father Dan after
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Speaker 3: the game on Friday. There'll be more on the dodcast
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Speaker 3: this week for those Bulldog fans wondering. But incredible talent.
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Speaker 3: I mean it's been really it's been a pleasure to
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Speaker 3: be able to cover him for the last three seasons
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Speaker 3: in the Entrail Hockey League. I mean he's been great.
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Speaker 3: He leads by example on the ice so has also
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Speaker 3: he shared a cool story Patrick Thomas reaching out to
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Speaker 3: him after the game. So I sent the text to
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Speaker 3: Patrick Thomas, Hey, how's it going. That's cool to send
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Speaker 3: the message to Jake and he goes automatic, You've been
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Speaker 3: watching the Bulldogs closely, so that's kind of cool from
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Speaker 3: former captain of last year Patrick Thomas. But Jake O'Brien,
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Speaker 3: I mean an incredible talent. He probably gets a hundred points.
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Speaker 3: I mean he's got ninety three points and fifty three
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Speaker 3: games if he doesn't miss the world around the World
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Speaker 3: junior time. He unfortunately had that injury that he had
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Speaker 3: around rate when he got back around the Christmas break.
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Speaker 3: If he doesn't miss that time, He's got a hundred
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Speaker 3: points easily this year in the Antario Hockey League. And
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Speaker 3: it's I don't even think it's close, Jake. All he's
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Speaker 3: got to do is get a little bit more and thicker.
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Speaker 3: A lot of time on the ice this year, but
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Speaker 3: if he gets a little bit more thicker, he's gonna
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Speaker 3: be a player. I mean, he's so smart. I mean
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Speaker 3: to see the coach is what they've voted about him.
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Speaker 3: That's a compliment to his game, without a without a doubt.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the smartest players in the
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Speaker 3: Ntail Hockey League. And no surprise, coach was voted on
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Speaker 3: that as well. Yeah, yeah, no kidding.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna stick with the Branford Bulldogs because the leading
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Speaker 2: goal scorer this season from Branford. And you talk about out, well,
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Speaker 2: what if O'Brien didn't miss the time to be at
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Speaker 2: World Junior camp and what what his uh what his
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Speaker 2: point total could have looked like. Merk van Aker, albeit
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Speaker 2: it was a late er addition, I'm filling in due
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Speaker 2: to a due to an injury, but merk van Acker
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Speaker 2: finishes the regular season with forty seven goals. That leads
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Speaker 2: the league, just edging out Jack Pridham who finished with
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Speaker 2: forty six. And then a little bit of a drop
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Speaker 2: off to to number three, four and five with Walton
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Speaker 2: Edwards and Patterson who each got forty. But but you
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Speaker 2: look at Merrick van Acker and and again he didn't
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Speaker 2: miss a ton of time because of World Junior Camp.
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Speaker 2: There were some you know, bumps and bruises throughout the
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Speaker 2: season for America as well. You see that as sixty
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Speaker 2: games this season. If that's at sixty three games, let's
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Speaker 2: say that's all three more goals from Mark van Acker
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Speaker 2: and he gets one. Yeah, no case, don't blame them,
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, why not last kick at the cannon, try
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Speaker 2: and get a hatie and get to fifty again. You
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Speaker 2: may get sixty three games played. He probably gets there,
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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, no, without a doubt.
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Speaker 3: I mean, and he's from the great city of the
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Speaker 3: Del High, Ontario as well, so that that has something
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Speaker 3: to do with it. The first almost fifty goal scorer
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Speaker 3: from the delha Tera. That have been pretty cool. But
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Speaker 3: Marricks his.
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Speaker 2: Picture going up in the in the arena, by the way,
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Speaker 2: it feels like it should be up there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be in the Norfolk Hall of Fame
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Speaker 3: for sure. Mark great talent. I mean you look at
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Speaker 3: the goal scoring ability around the net. He's been great
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Speaker 3: for the Bulldogs this year. And I mean he's been
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Speaker 3: so successful around the net. He uses that body, used
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Speaker 3: that frame well around the net and gets some good
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Speaker 3: positioning a lot. And that's how you can be talented,
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Speaker 3: get those goals right. So it's cool. It's cool to
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Speaker 3: see the development of American actor, how much he's changed.
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Speaker 3: He's already he's always showed spurts, but this year also
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Speaker 3: the big thing is you didn't have to go through
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Speaker 3: a rehab, getting getting a full getting a full season,
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Speaker 3: a full training camp, a normal offseason is is huge.
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Speaker 3: The only thing is for those on YouTube that are
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Speaker 3: watching right now, Mark, you might want to pop a
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Speaker 3: smile in that profile picture. That the stare. It looks
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Speaker 3: like it's coming right through. I feel like I gotta move,
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Speaker 3: uh that stare. I mean, wow, they caught him. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: don't blink. I feel like it's like, what's going on.
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Speaker 3: I gotta say something good? Uh, I gotta say something
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Speaker 3: good about him because of the He's gonna.
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Speaker 2: Come through the screen. And attack you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that looks something.
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Speaker 2: By the way, Colin Ward has already started the fun
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Speaker 2: to get the Merrick van Acker sign underneath the Dell
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Speaker 2: High sign, much like Adam Henry has in the town
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Speaker 2: of Burford. They're not a city, They're a town of Burford.
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Speaker 2: Apparently Dell High is a city.
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Speaker 3: Right, we got more stop lights.
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Speaker 2: We're a lot bigger than Murford. No offense to that's sure.
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Speaker 2: You are you are? Yeah you are? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah right?
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Speaker 2: But uh, points leader this year somebody that was on
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Speaker 2: nobody's radar to lead this at the beginning of the year.
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Speaker 2: Now we knew who he was. We're not gonna say that,
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Speaker 2: oh there was no shot anybody saw him doing this.
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Speaker 2: But I would say everyone was like, oh, really Nikita Klepov,
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Speaker 2: And yeah, Nikita Klepoff ninety seven points this season, thirty
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Speaker 2: seven goals, sixty sixty assists for an eighth place team,
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Speaker 2: and you lead the league in scoring. I feel like
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Speaker 2: I've used this word plenty enough and we're what ten
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Speaker 2: minutes into the show, But like that, that's impressive, Like
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Speaker 2: that is how how did he do that? Call?
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Speaker 3: I you know, his prospects game was really his coming
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Speaker 3: out party. I know they had a lot of success
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Speaker 3: him in a Barra bad off. Throughout the season, they
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Speaker 3: kind of showed spurts of the of the talent. But
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Speaker 3: the Prospects game in Peterborough I think was Nikita Kleppoff's
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Speaker 3: coming out party for him. I mean, ninety seven points
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Speaker 3: on the season, so close to one hundred. That one
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Speaker 3: game you think that he misses, right, does he get
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Speaker 3: it if he lays a fall sixty eight? But the
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Speaker 3: biggest talent is about clapoff and the one thing that
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Speaker 3: really stands out to me. And for those on you YouTube,
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Speaker 3: they can see that right now on the screen. But
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Speaker 3: for those not plus nine on the season on an
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Speaker 3: eighth on a on an eighth ranked team in the
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Speaker 3: conference is tough to do. That's that's impressive to be
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Speaker 3: a positive player like that. Obviously you have almost one
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Speaker 3: hundred points, that's gonna happen naturally, you would hope, But
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Speaker 3: plus nine for a eighth ranked team, I mean, I
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Speaker 3: I think this playoff series is gonna be a lot
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Speaker 3: closer to than what people think between the Spirit and
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Speaker 3: the Rangers, just off, clipoff, bearra Banoff, I mean, this
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Speaker 3: is really gonna be the clipoff show to see. Hey,
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Speaker 3: the real season starts now on the postseason, right, so
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Speaker 3: what kind of are they to fluke or what are they? Right?
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Speaker 3: So and not say they are I mean, I mean
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Speaker 3: I voted them. I think for my Red Tilson before
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Speaker 3: dam Ol Riley caught fire. But I think that Niki
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Speaker 3: cup Off with the way he's improved throughout the season
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Speaker 3: is the beauty of the HL and the beauty of
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Speaker 3: the new landscape of the league.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you mentioned it a plus nine for a second
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Speaker 2: of Spirit team that in the goal wrenchal was a
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Speaker 2: minus sixty four. They scored two hundred and twenty eight,
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Speaker 2: they allowed two hundred and ninety two. So yeah, that'll
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Speaker 2: be that'll be interesting. You're right that that's kind of
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Speaker 2: an X factor for Sagan. We're talking about Klipov at
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Speaker 2: ninety seven points leading the league, barre Banov just six
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Speaker 2: behind it ninety one. So that's two Spirit in the
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Speaker 2: top five in ohl in ohl points this season. So
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Speaker 2: the retention, if it's there, watch out for sagon on
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Speaker 2: next year if they can, if they can find a
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Speaker 2: way to get around them, so or build around them,
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Speaker 2: I should say to the goaltenders, Colin Ward's favorite category, Bobby,
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Speaker 2: are going to go to the Nation's capital for the
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Speaker 2: next two. Next two awards the goals against Average Champion
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Speaker 2: or winner. I'm not sure what the best word for
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Speaker 2: that is. Mm got this year best stopper of pucks.
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Speaker 1: It's actually w Dentt Moore Trophy.
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Speaker 2: It is. Yes, I always love I want to win.
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Speaker 3: I wish I could have win won the Dentty.
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Speaker 2: That fits Colin Ward, the Dentty the Danty.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Ward.
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Speaker 2: But feder Off at two oh seven goals against average
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Speaker 2: edged out Joey Costanzo had a two to sixteen show
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Speaker 2: guest not a big deal. But but feder Off coming
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Speaker 2: in as a seventeen year old again Ottawa a team
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Speaker 2: that I had missing the playoffs this season, and they
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Speaker 2: were right at the top pretty well the entire way
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Speaker 2: through the whole campaign. And this young man was a
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Speaker 2: was a big reason for it. And and I think
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Speaker 2: an NHL club is going to be very lucky to
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Speaker 2: take him in this June's draft.
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Speaker 3: Oh, without a doubt. I mean, he got a triple
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Speaker 3: crown this year, say percentage goals against and he had
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Speaker 3: shutouts at six That's pretty cool. I'm gonna get a
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Speaker 3: triple crown for the goal centers this year, that's neat.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Righter feder Off, he's the reason
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Speaker 3: why they're there. I mean, major reason why the Autawa
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Speaker 3: sixty seven has had the success they did. Our seventeen
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Speaker 3: year old goaltender like that going having twenty nine wins.
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Speaker 3: That's tough to do. And I mean I think it's
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Speaker 3: it's for the work ethic, right, Like I know, Brandon
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Speaker 3: you meant, I know, you interviewed him about a month
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago now with the sixty sevens
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Speaker 3: and he mentioned Mark Andre Fleury and you see a
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Speaker 3: lot of that in his game. He's very technical. He's
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Speaker 3: not the biggest guys for goaltenders. As I said about
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Speaker 3: Eastern Rye, six foot is tall, but it's not tall
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Speaker 3: for goaltenders nowadays. And I mean he's so technically sound.
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Speaker 3: And I mean, you look around the league this year.
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Speaker 3: What's up with six foot goaltenders being lights out this year?
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Speaker 3: Fakari Rye fetter Off, I mean, maybe you don't have
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Speaker 3: to be six foot seven to be a heck of
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Speaker 3: a goaltender now, and you look around the league. I
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Speaker 3: mean those three have been studs this year around the
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Speaker 3: league and feeder Off. I mean, every given night he
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Speaker 3: gives sixty sevens a chance, that's all you can ask.
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Speaker 2: And sticking with the with the storyline, it they combined
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Speaker 2: for the least amount of goals allowed Jaden Nelson right
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Speaker 2: there too, with with with Ryder feder Off. Nelson's goals
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Speaker 2: against average is that two thirty three. A lot of
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Speaker 2: people I thought, you know, probably thought he was the
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Speaker 2: number one this year Nelson, right a seventeen year old
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Speaker 2: feder Off. You're thinking, Okay, he's gonna come in. He's
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Speaker 2: gonna be seventeen year old, kind of get his feet
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Speaker 2: wet in the Ontario Hockey League, kind of see what
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Speaker 2: it's about and whether it's college immediately after, whether he
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Speaker 2: just pushes it back a year and sticks it out
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Speaker 2: in the l one more year. You know, who knows
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Speaker 2: what the case would be. And Nelson would kind of
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Speaker 2: take the reins this year in sort of a transition
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Speaker 2: season for the sixty sevens. But I think that you know,
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Speaker 2: in the combination of feder Off and then Nelson with
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Speaker 2: the years that he's put in in the Ontario Hockey League,
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Speaker 2: they fed off each other really well. And by years.
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Speaker 2: I mean essentially two plus for Nelson. Twenty three, twenty
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Speaker 2: four he played two games. Twenty four to twenty five
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Speaker 2: he's at thirty three and then twenty nine this season.
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Speaker 2: In twenty five and twenty six, they played off each
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Speaker 2: other really well, and we saw stretches wrote the year
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Speaker 2: where you know, Dave Cameron would ride Rider for a
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Speaker 2: number of games, and then he'd ride Jaden for a
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Speaker 2: number of games. All then you know there'd be a
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Speaker 2: week or two where it'd be back and forth, back
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Speaker 2: and forth, and nobody really got a got a long
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Speaker 2: leash to to kind of run with it. So I
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Speaker 2: think I feel safe in saying that federal off as
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Speaker 2: you're starting goaltender heading into the postseason, that first round
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Speaker 2: matchup against Kingston. But I think for Dave Cameron, he's
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Speaker 2: got a nice luxury like a few coaches doing the
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Speaker 2: Ontario Hockey League, where if it's federal off for Nelson,
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Speaker 2: you feel pretty comfortable in whatever game you're in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean it's underrated award, right,
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Speaker 3: it's a team award to defend the defense in front
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Speaker 3: as well. I think that it speaks to itself, right
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Speaker 3: when you look at the goals against average, especially in
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Speaker 3: the Entrail Hockey, and you see Jade and Nelson right
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Speaker 3: now finishing in third in the goals against average in
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Speaker 3: the all of the OHL. So you got two sixty
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Speaker 3: sevens in the top three. I mean, that's impressive, and
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Speaker 3: I mean that's that's more of an individual stat as well,
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Speaker 3: that contributes to the team, and it just speaks to itself.
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Speaker 3: How absolutely deserving these this team is for the for
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Speaker 3: the award. I mean they've been great, and I mean,
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Speaker 3: like you mentioned, rest every single given night, like you
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Speaker 3: saw stretches where Nelson would play game, feder Off will
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Speaker 3: play a game multiple games in a row, and it
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Speaker 3: didn't matter what they did. They were still getting points
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Speaker 3: in the standings. We were still winning those games. They
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Speaker 3: were competitive in the games, and that speaks for itself.
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Speaker 3: And anytime you get those games and you don't give
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Speaker 3: a it's nice when you don't give a game away
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Speaker 3: with a backup goaltender, a quote unquote backup goaltender.
18:17
Speaker 2: That's huge.
18:18
Speaker 3: And the Duckids shot right, And I think that they've
18:20
Speaker 3: been great, this duo, this was no doubt, it's one
18:22
Speaker 3: of the best tandems in the league.
18:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of those extra numbers that I wanted to
18:26
Speaker 2: point out for Nelson too, and completely different teams in
18:30
Speaker 2: front of him a year year after year like last
18:32
Speaker 2: year compared to this week. Yeah, sorry, go ahead, Mordy.
18:36
Speaker 3: No, we got our twitter pool. Remember at the being
18:38
Speaker 3: of the year about November, we did a Twitter pool
18:41
Speaker 3: on Ottawa's goaltending, our London's goaltending for top five in
18:45
Speaker 3: the league. And now we got our answer for the
18:47
Speaker 3: top five. Maybe one we got our answer. It was
18:50
Speaker 3: a Medvedev in a Gatto and then you had feder
18:53
Speaker 3: Off Nelson what duo was better?
18:55
Speaker 2: And I guess we got our answer in the sixty
18:57
Speaker 2: sevens Yep. Yeah, those numbers you look at and like
19:01
Speaker 2: I said, this kind of has to do with the
19:03
Speaker 2: team that was in front of him as well. But
19:05
Speaker 2: shots against last year four more games played last year,
19:09
Speaker 2: so not a significant number, but that's still an extra
19:14
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty minutes there we go. Look at
19:17
Speaker 2: that math. But yeah, obviously that that's kind of you know,
19:23
Speaker 2: give or take a few minutes depending on certain situations.
19:26
Speaker 2: But he saw Oney twenty seven shots last year in
19:29
Speaker 2: thirty three games and allowed one hundred and fourteen goals
19:34
Speaker 2: this year, and this is kind of where the team
19:35
Speaker 2: in front of him comes into play. In the twenty
19:38
Speaker 2: nine games, he saw only seven hundred and sixty two shots.
19:42
Speaker 3: So that is a big difference.
19:44
Speaker 2: What two fifty to three hundred shots less. Yeah, that's
19:48
Speaker 2: that's a big enough difference. That's more than fifty shots.
19:50
Speaker 3: You see those numbers now, yeah, now you're not surprising.
19:52
Speaker 3: You see those numbers going, Yeah, get better when you
19:56
Speaker 3: give up plus shots to a team award.
19:58
Speaker 2: And and sixty five goals against on seven and sixty two.
20:01
Speaker 2: So that's six hundred and ninety seven save saves compared
20:04
Speaker 2: to nine thirteen the previous year. Again, says a lot
20:07
Speaker 2: about the blue line and the development of the sixty
20:09
Speaker 2: sevens in front of him, But also I think that
20:11
Speaker 2: says a lot about him and and that year over
20:14
Speaker 2: year difference for for Nelson and net.
20:17
Speaker 3: Well, without a doubt it does. I mean, without a doubt,
20:19
Speaker 3: it's nice to see the trend, right, to see guys
20:21
Speaker 3: get better, That's what that's the beauty of the league.
20:23
Speaker 3: To see the development of players as individuals as well.
20:26
Speaker 3: And I mean no doubt he's gotten better throughout his
20:28
Speaker 3: LHL career.
20:31
Speaker 2: All right, uh we we'll go over a couple of
20:34
Speaker 2: team awards here. We're not gonna spend too much time
20:37
Speaker 2: on it. These teams are in the playoffs, so we're
20:39
Speaker 2: obviously gonna look at them as as the show goes on.
20:43
Speaker 2: But we already mentioned it. Hamilton Bowlder or branfret.
20:47
Speaker 1: Nice Jo, you're there's your first pal.
20:49
Speaker 2: Woh, oh my god.
20:54
Speaker 3: Well he saw the spectator. You saw it in an
20:56
Speaker 3: exact left. Guys, you saw the Hamilton Spectator and all right, all.
21:02
Speaker 2: Right, let's try this again. Cut reboot. All right, here
21:05
Speaker 2: we go. Hamilton Spectator Trophy champions are the Brantford Bulldogs.
21:11
Speaker 2: They've been there, this is their third year. That is embarrassing.
21:14
Speaker 2: That should not be an issue. I'll take that. Fine,
21:18
Speaker 2: I'll take that fine.
21:20
Speaker 3: That's the record.
21:21
Speaker 2: I deserve it. Record off the wreck. We're on the record.
21:25
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
21:26
Speaker 3: I'm joking with the listeners?
21:29
Speaker 1: It is ham So that's probably what.
21:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's what I thought. Yeah, okay, all right,
21:35
Speaker 2: thanks guys. Thanks, you can still find me if you want,
21:37
Speaker 2: because that's embarrassing year three. But anyways, yes, Hamilton Spectator
21:43
Speaker 2: Trophy the Branford Bulldogs second time in franchise history, of course,
21:46
Speaker 2: winning it in twenty twenty two in Hamilton and getting
21:50
Speaker 2: home ice throughout throughout the entire playoffs, including a game
21:54
Speaker 2: seven win on home ice to capture the Jay, Ross
21:57
Speaker 2: And and Colin before we got to the division winner
22:00
Speaker 2: and who's taking home that hard where. Uh, there was
22:03
Speaker 2: a really good quote that you got from from Jmickee
22:06
Speaker 2: about how important it is to win the Spectator and
22:10
Speaker 2: what advantage it does give you, especially, you know, especially
22:13
Speaker 2: in the Ohl Championship series. Obviously, if you win the East,
22:17
Speaker 2: you win the West, and the regular season you've got
22:18
Speaker 2: home ice throughout the first three rounds. But then it's
22:21
Speaker 2: up to that final round of where if you get
22:23
Speaker 2: that Spectator and you've got a game seven on whole ice,
22:26
Speaker 2: that makes a huge difference. Uh. Yeah, you know in
22:29
Speaker 2: that matchup. And you think of the difference in twenty
22:31
Speaker 2: twenty two between First Ontario Center and the WFCU Center
22:35
Speaker 2: in terms of noise, It really wasn't that different. Both
22:37
Speaker 2: buildings were loud, but try to go got up a
22:40
Speaker 2: good point about if winsor would have won the Spectator
22:43
Speaker 2: Trophy that year.
22:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, exactly, like you said, Yeah, twenty twenty two.
22:47
Speaker 3: I had a great chat with the Jamie Key post game.
22:49
Speaker 3: You'll hear that on the dodcast this week as well
22:52
Speaker 3: for your Bulldog fans, but most of the mostly obviously. Yeah,
22:55
Speaker 3: like you mentioned twenty twenty two, as things have gotten
22:58
Speaker 3: down to the wire right now, you think about the
23:00
Speaker 3: two teams right now in the West and in the east.
23:02
Speaker 3: You look at Branford and you look at Kitchener in
23:04
Speaker 3: the west, right, and you look at those two teams
23:06
Speaker 3: and you're thinking, well, do you really want to go
23:08
Speaker 3: to the odd to play a Game seven? Right? You'd
23:10
Speaker 3: rather have that at home ice you control, at least
23:13
Speaker 3: you control the environment in that aspect right now, and
23:17
Speaker 3: I think that's a huge, huge advantage for the Bulldogs
23:20
Speaker 3: to have every possible Game seven throughout this playoff run
23:24
Speaker 3: at home. You essentially control your own destiny in game
23:26
Speaker 3: sevens for that matter. And like you meant, like you
23:30
Speaker 3: mentioned twenty twenty two, you think about that. I remember
23:33
Speaker 3: Game six throughout that series, how loud that was in Windsor, right,
23:37
Speaker 3: and if that Game seven in Hamilton, fourteen thousand fans
23:41
Speaker 3: I remember lined up at four o'clock the fans to
23:43
Speaker 3: get in the door that was right on to see that,
23:46
Speaker 3: and I mean, I if that doesn't happen, if it's
23:49
Speaker 3: on the flip side, do are the BULLDOGSHL champions that year?
23:53
Speaker 3: I don't know. And that's why you leave no questioning,
23:55
Speaker 3: you leave no doubt in that matter, in that aspect
24:00
Speaker 3: when you get the Hamilton spectator. I think that was
24:02
Speaker 3: why the Bulldogs really pushed for that and why they
24:04
Speaker 3: played their players on Friday night as well.
24:07
Speaker 2: Still playing for things absolutely, yeah, no kidding, and home
24:11
Speaker 2: regular season home finale too. You want to you want
24:13
Speaker 2: to show up for the home fans doing a nice
24:15
Speaker 2: taste going into the into the playoffs, especially because it's
24:19
Speaker 2: a little bit of a further walk because of a
24:21
Speaker 2: construction zone that the parking lot has turned into. Colin
24:24
Speaker 2: Ward not a fan. Yeah, it's actually early enough, it's
24:28
Speaker 2: probably all right. But if you have the construction workers
24:32
Speaker 2: thirty cars, probably that's it. That's that's nothing.
24:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only three spots per row right now, like
24:40
Speaker 3: in the main part. It's it's thin, it's very thin.
24:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:45
Speaker 3: I don't know what the plan is, but I don't
24:48
Speaker 3: think there's gonna be a car this year fronta Civic
24:50
Speaker 3: Center because there's not a lot of room, uh to
24:54
Speaker 3: work with right now with parking, but I know the
24:57
Speaker 3: team's working on that. For Bulldog fans wondering, I know
25:00
Speaker 3: the teams working on that.
25:01
Speaker 2: Who knows we might get We might get the traffic
25:03
Speaker 2: report back on the Ohl and sixty podcast, just like
25:06
Speaker 2: we had when we're at the TSN studios in Hamilton's.
25:08
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, I mean, parking
25:12
Speaker 3: report would be something. I love what gwelf does. I
25:14
Speaker 3: love how gwelf tweets out their part.
25:17
Speaker 2: That was awesome.
25:18
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable that they do that. That's cool.
25:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really like that too. To the division champions,
25:24
Speaker 2: the the MS Trophy, the Central Division champion Barry Colts.
25:28
Speaker 2: Second straight season that they have they've won the Central
25:32
Speaker 2: and first year Dylan Smaskowitz takes home or helps the
25:36
Speaker 2: Barry Colts organization take this home. So congratulations to him,
25:40
Speaker 2: Congratulations to Marty Williamson and all the players involved. For
25:43
Speaker 2: the Barry Colts, we got to a point in the
25:45
Speaker 2: season where it was their division to lose and really
25:48
Speaker 2: didn't see anyone challenging them for it, and well that's
25:51
Speaker 2: kind of how it ended. The Barry Colts winning that
25:54
Speaker 2: by a very large margin, so so congratulations to them obviously.
26:00
Speaker 2: With the Bulldogs winning the Spectator Trophy, they take home
26:04
Speaker 2: the Leyden Trophy as East Division champions. Kind of went
26:08
Speaker 2: over the Bulldogs already, but they finished with a league
26:12
Speaker 2: high one hundred and six points. Back to back division
26:15
Speaker 2: titles for the Bulldogs as well, so they've run the
26:18
Speaker 2: East Division for the last two years and looking to
26:21
Speaker 2: take it a little bit further this year after a
26:23
Speaker 2: second round exit to Oshawa in twenty twenty four. Twenty
26:27
Speaker 2: twenty five in the Western Conference, the Midwest Division champion
26:31
Speaker 2: Kitchener Rangers for the first time since twenty eighteen. They
26:36
Speaker 2: collect one hundred points in consecutive seasons for the first
26:39
Speaker 2: time in franchise history. The Holiday Trophy to the Kitchener
26:44
Speaker 2: Rangers and Colin Ward's not London probably favorite player this
26:48
Speaker 2: year Sam O'Reilly, Dylan Edwards and Jared Woolley. Sim yeah,
26:53
Speaker 2: big big fans or Colin Ward, big fans of them.
26:59
Speaker 2: Jack Pridham of course, forty six goals this season, samu ol'iley,
27:02
Speaker 2: red Tilson winners. I don't even think it should be close,
27:06
Speaker 2: Like Josh Brown said, last week. I don't even think
27:08
Speaker 2: it should be close. Samuel' Riley's changed in identity. There
27:12
Speaker 2: was no one hundred point guys this year, so I
27:14
Speaker 2: think it makes it easy to.
27:15
Speaker 3: Pick the Red Tilson this year. I think sam ol
27:17
Speaker 3: Riley without a doubt when he's brought into that team.
27:21
Speaker 3: I mean they look at their record at the deadline,
27:23
Speaker 3: I mean at post deadline, they barely lost. Like yeah,
27:27
Speaker 3: I think that without a doubt. The Rangers second half
27:30
Speaker 3: I think is the most interesting. It's the most dominating
27:33
Speaker 3: second half out of any team in the Intro Hockey
27:35
Speaker 3: League right now in my opinion. Right now, Like, I
27:38
Speaker 3: think that they've been great. I mean they're well coached.
27:41
Speaker 3: Their goaltending was a question mark. I think they're starting
27:46
Speaker 3: to get answers. They obviously they had a tough one
27:48
Speaker 3: to Sarnia on Friday night, but I think they're starting
27:51
Speaker 3: to get answers. I know Josh was quite confident about
27:53
Speaker 3: their goaltending last week, so that's a good sign. And
27:55
Speaker 3: then I just like their team. I really like their team.
27:58
Speaker 3: I think you look at their ads. They made it
28:00
Speaker 3: this year and I mean they really built well and
28:03
Speaker 3: obviously they got some luck too. Right, get some guys back.
28:06
Speaker 3: Prett comes back for a year like that. Like those
28:09
Speaker 3: are huge area and you need those bounces to get
28:12
Speaker 3: to come your way sometimes too to be good. So
28:14
Speaker 3: the Rangers have done a great job this year, and
28:16
Speaker 3: I think that they're gonna be the toughest out right
28:18
Speaker 3: now in the Western Conference.
28:20
Speaker 2: And then the West Division champion windsor spit Fires take
28:23
Speaker 2: home the Bumbaco Trophy. We name the Flint Firebird. Not
28:28
Speaker 2: bad eh, unreal name, really solid uh Spitfires, like I said,
28:34
Speaker 2: kind of defeating the Flint Firebirds in the race to
28:37
Speaker 2: the finish at the top of the at the top
28:40
Speaker 2: of the West Division, so took until the final day,
28:45
Speaker 2: probably doesn't make a difference to them whatsoever. They defeat
28:48
Speaker 2: a really good hockey club in the Susaint Marie Greyhounds,
28:50
Speaker 2: which also allowed the London Knights to finish fourth and
28:55
Speaker 2: get whole ice in that first round against the Sue Greyhounds.
28:58
Speaker 2: If Sue wins the finished they would get home ice
29:02
Speaker 2: against London. Yeah, funny how it works out. London sells
29:04
Speaker 2: but still gets home ice in the first round. Yeah,
29:07
Speaker 2: but we've talked with Joey Costanzo. Obviously We've had a
29:10
Speaker 2: multi have had multiple conversations about the spitfires. This year,
29:14
Speaker 2: green Tree with thirty eight goals and seventy four points,
29:17
Speaker 2: would all with sixty three points, twelve of those goals
29:20
Speaker 2: fifty one assists. You know, just the winsor team that
29:23
Speaker 2: we expected from the hop finished off the way we
29:25
Speaker 2: expected them to.
29:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean it's funny Joey may
29:30
Speaker 3: be reaching out to us and say, hey, look how
29:32
Speaker 3: hot they got there after the interview. Right, you win
29:34
Speaker 3: the division, I mean in the effect class.
29:37
Speaker 2: I mean the quote two years of twenty twenty four
29:41
Speaker 2: MLB season, don't let the Tigers get hot, well, right
29:44
Speaker 2: across the border, don't let the Spits get hot. Yeah,
29:47
Speaker 2: he's gonna come at us with yeah.
29:49
Speaker 3: I mean, well, we had a good conversation there and
29:52
Speaker 3: we talked and ever since then. Right, you know, there
29:54
Speaker 3: were a couple of points back of Flint when he
29:56
Speaker 3: came on and then all of a sudden, Yeah, So
30:00
Speaker 3: don't want to take too much credit, Joey, but I
30:02
Speaker 3: know you hear that. I know, I know you're feeling
30:04
Speaker 3: good after that. I know we boosted up the team morale,
30:08
Speaker 3: got that pizza, got that pizza in you the dog
30:11
Speaker 3: and you got the pizza in you and Wins are
30:13
Speaker 3: a great, great year that they've had this year. I
30:16
Speaker 3: mean they're competitive. I mean they're led by their captain, right,
30:18
Speaker 3: They're led by their leadership group. And Joey's one of
30:21
Speaker 3: those guys in.
30:23
Speaker 1: Doing it with old Belchets and ville Neuve right now.
30:25
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's great, that's impressive, right, like your prize
30:29
Speaker 3: deadline acquisition and your top prospect, Like you look around
30:34
Speaker 3: the league and you look at other teams, top draft
30:35
Speaker 3: eligible players on these competitive on the competitive teams. I
30:39
Speaker 3: mean he I'm like, you lose one of those guys, right,
30:42
Speaker 3: Chase Reed and soon you look at Kala Mahult in Branford,
30:45
Speaker 3: you look at Belchets and winsor right, those guys have
30:48
Speaker 3: kind of they've been on top teams and you look
30:51
Speaker 3: at them, they're a big part of their team.
30:52
Speaker 2: That's a big loss, all right, to what might be
30:58
Speaker 2: the most interesting conversation on this week's show in all
31:03
Speaker 2: ninety minutes of it, we're about a third of the
31:06
Speaker 2: way through, just over thirty minutes. In rumor is that
31:11
Speaker 2: nineteen year old first round picks will be Ahl eligible
31:17
Speaker 2: as of next year, so that first year they would
31:20
Speaker 2: be eligible would be last year's draft class that included
31:23
Speaker 2: Brady Martin Jacobrien as a bit, et cetera. I think
31:30
Speaker 2: we've got two different viewpoints on this, Colin. Yeah, actually, yeah,
31:36
Speaker 2: go ahead, you have the floor.
31:37
Speaker 3: No no no, no no no no no.
31:40
Speaker 2: I So for me, I think I would hate it
31:45
Speaker 2: if it was everyone. If you're drafted in the seventh
31:47
Speaker 2: round and could go to the AHL, Like, I don't
31:51
Speaker 2: know about that. First rounders I'm okay with, Like I
31:57
Speaker 2: understand why NHL clubs would win to send them to
32:00
Speaker 2: the American Hockey League. You get into a Sam Dickinson situation,
32:07
Speaker 2: like with Sam Dickinson awesome with London last year. Did
32:10
Speaker 2: we enjoy watching him? Yes, I'm not gonna deny that whatsoever.
32:14
Speaker 2: Was he at a level where yeah he was of
32:18
Speaker 2: course he was good enough to play in the OHL,
32:20
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that. But was he too good?
32:23
Speaker 2: Was he too good to be in the OHL? And
32:27
Speaker 2: like to me, like, so sorry, I'll rephrase that because
32:32
Speaker 2: that would have been this year, I guess, so ignore me.
32:35
Speaker 2: But there are first round talents that they get to
32:39
Speaker 2: nineteen years old. And they're too good for the OHL.
32:42
Speaker 2: That that's my personal opinion, and I think if you're
32:45
Speaker 2: looking to grow the game and allow more paths to
32:50
Speaker 2: success for these guys, then I'm good with first rounders
32:54
Speaker 2: heading to the AHL at nineteen. Again, if we were
32:58
Speaker 2: looking at everyone who was and they are HL eligible
33:03
Speaker 2: at nineteen while okay, cool, the OHL is for that,
33:06
Speaker 2: I should say the HL in general is for sixteen,
33:09
Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen year olds cool, and then the next
33:11
Speaker 2: two years you're gone. I've got an issue with that.
33:15
Speaker 2: First rounders, I'm I'm okay with I think I'm more
33:19
Speaker 2: okay with it than a lot of people, certainly more
33:21
Speaker 2: than Colin Ward. That's where I see you. And everyone
33:26
Speaker 2: who's drafted in the first round is not ready for
33:28
Speaker 2: the NA, is not ready for the AHL at nineteen
33:32
Speaker 2: years old. There are certain guys that, for one, they're
33:37
Speaker 2: not tough enough. We know what the AHL is, and
33:39
Speaker 2: we understand that there is now a cap on how
33:43
Speaker 2: many players you can dress over a certain age. Can
33:46
Speaker 2: I understand that they're starting to become more of a
33:49
Speaker 2: we'd like to develop guys into the NHL, which is
33:52
Speaker 2: the whole point of the Minor leagues is to get
33:54
Speaker 2: them up to the NHL and kind of what the
33:57
Speaker 2: GOHL has worked on with the OHL this year, the
34:00
Speaker 2: Development League like but like I said, you've got nineteen
34:04
Speaker 2: year olds that have no business being in the AHL.
34:06
Speaker 2: So that again, that it goes on the NHL team.
34:10
Speaker 2: They hope they recognize that decision.
34:14
Speaker 1: Before you get going, Hey, you know what, you know what?
34:17
Speaker 3: Off topic? Off topic. Shout out to the Branford Bulldogs
34:19
Speaker 3: and the Sagon of Spirit top point leaders back to
34:22
Speaker 3: back years. Clip off of Misa last year and this year.
34:25
Speaker 3: Van acker Lardis last year for the Bulldogs. Shout out
34:28
Speaker 3: to that, Yes, Brandon put the list recentually proved my
34:31
Speaker 3: point with the with the veteran rule.
34:35
Speaker 1: This would be next year's list of guys that would
34:38
Speaker 1: be eligible under this new ruling. Okay, want to you
34:41
Speaker 1: want to read them off for the audio listeners?
34:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we can go through them, so Schaeffer. So
34:46
Speaker 2: there's names on this list that were like yeah, AHL, sure,
34:51
Speaker 2: Matthew Shaeffer, Michael Misa, Caleb Dinoya, which congratulations to him.
34:55
Speaker 2: Uh just signed his entry level deal. Phoenix Coyotes. Shout
35:01
Speaker 2: out to the Coyotes. Uh. Brady Martin, Jacobrian Riddy, Merka
35:06
Speaker 2: almost wasn't a buffalo saber. Shout out to Colton Pareco,
35:10
Speaker 2: Ben Kendall, jack and has Bit, Jackson Smith, Branden Coots,
35:14
Speaker 2: Cole Retchney, Cameron Reid and and Henry Brustevitch. And again, no,
35:18
Speaker 2: that's hl Y, that's not just the OHL. Those are
35:21
Speaker 2: guys who.
35:24
Speaker 3: Correct, yes, correct YouTube, go.
35:31
Speaker 2: Ahead, Wardy.
35:32
Speaker 3: I absolutely hate this, I you know what like And
35:37
Speaker 3: I think back to this year and last year Eastern Collen,
35:40
Speaker 3: Eastern Cowen. He was great. He was incredible in the OHL,
35:45
Speaker 3: for sure, But when I look at the debacle that
35:48
Speaker 3: the Leaf's development is for Eastern Cowen's games. So I'm
35:53
Speaker 3: not done. No, no, no, I'm not done yet. Let
35:55
Speaker 3: me talk so Eastern Cowen. They've they've messed him up
35:59
Speaker 3: so bad. Why do we rush guys into the NHL.
36:02
Speaker 3: As a Detroit red wing fan growing up, it was
36:05
Speaker 3: always a thing where guys are gonna go to grand rapids,
36:08
Speaker 3: They're gonna over develop in a way and then come up.
36:11
Speaker 3: That's not a thing anymore then. And the reason why
36:14
Speaker 3: I say this is because the AHL, as you mentioned,
36:17
Speaker 3: has a veteran rule, a veteran rule is in place
36:21
Speaker 3: for a reason. One you're gonna call up. So I'm
36:24
Speaker 3: gonna look up Brady Martin right now. Brady Martin has
36:27
Speaker 3: been a lot of He's been hurt this year, obviously
36:31
Speaker 3: World Juniors, the injury. There's been up and downs in
36:35
Speaker 3: Brady Martin's game. He's a heck of a player. He
36:37
Speaker 3: is a heck of a player, without a doubt. But
36:41
Speaker 3: does that do him good playing on the third line
36:43
Speaker 3: of the AHL in a checking role. Absolutely not. It
36:46
Speaker 3: gets you hurt, it changes your game. And I speak
36:49
Speaker 3: back to this another Sue Greyhound, Elite All Star player
36:53
Speaker 3: who was drafted by the Coyotes, finding that Coyotes here
36:56
Speaker 3: on the screen that when I look back at Barrett Hayton,
37:00
Speaker 3: Barret Hayton had to play in the NHL, had to
37:03
Speaker 3: play in the NHL, right, we had to get him
37:05
Speaker 3: up there. He has to play in the NHL. Instead
37:07
Speaker 3: of going back to Sue, now, all of a sudden,
37:11
Speaker 3: he's a third line He's a third line checker, third
37:13
Speaker 3: line center in the NHL. That's not a bad thing.
37:16
Speaker 3: But he was never that in the OHL. In the OHL,
37:19
Speaker 3: he was a high end prospect. He was a goal scorer,
37:23
Speaker 3: was a captain of Team Can at the World Juniors,
37:25
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, where he's in the NHL,
37:27
Speaker 3: he's a third line center. I think these guys, I
37:29
Speaker 3: think it forces guys. I don't know why there's a
37:32
Speaker 3: rush for guys to go up to the NHL. It worked,
37:35
Speaker 3: It's worked for guys like I look around the league
37:38
Speaker 3: and I look at guys that have been up and
37:39
Speaker 3: down in the NHL who've come from the NHL or
37:43
Speaker 3: from the OHL. It's worked. I hate this rule. I
37:46
Speaker 3: hate it. I sorry, rees, I think that, like I
37:50
Speaker 3: look at this list and the guys are the OHL.
37:52
Speaker 3: I really only think Kayshawn Ahison is the only guy
37:55
Speaker 3: physically that can play at this level and don't. I
37:58
Speaker 3: don't think it's a knock at anybody right now, but I
38:00
Speaker 3: think the AHL is a it's an under respected league.
38:05
Speaker 3: When we talk about this from the league, like, I
38:07
Speaker 3: think that the AHL is a very tough league. It's
38:11
Speaker 3: still an incredibly tough league. I watched the Grand Rapids
38:14
Speaker 3: Griffin's games. I look at guys like Amin Deis Lombardi
38:17
Speaker 3: who lit it up in Flint. You know, like it's
38:20
Speaker 3: a grind.
38:20
Speaker 2: Would have made his NHL debut if he didn't get
38:22
Speaker 2: hurt exactly.
38:23
Speaker 3: And it's a grind. It's a grind. I look at
38:26
Speaker 3: his extra year there, and I know it's first round picks.
38:29
Speaker 3: I know it's first round picks, and it this isn't
38:32
Speaker 3: and this is exceeding it. But I look at Nick
38:35
Speaker 3: Lartis's year last year. If he's in the AHL, he's
38:37
Speaker 3: not playing in the NHL. This year, he's a third,
38:40
Speaker 3: he doesn't have the seventy goal season, he's not coming
38:42
Speaker 3: into training camp with the talk. I truly believe.
38:45
Speaker 2: That pick though.
38:47
Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm that's what I'm saying. That's what
38:49
Speaker 3: I mentioned. I know he's not a first round pick,
38:51
Speaker 3: but I just think that. I just think that, Like
38:55
Speaker 3: I look at guy like I know closely with Jacob Brian.
38:58
Speaker 3: I mentioned Brady Martin. I look at Jacob Bryant, Jacob Brien.
39:01
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a great player, but he spends a
39:03
Speaker 3: lot of time on the ice right now. When he
39:05
Speaker 3: gets hit, ahl Man, you're gonna get broken. I hate
39:09
Speaker 3: to say it. And I don't know why there's a rush.
39:12
Speaker 3: I don't know why there is a rush to get
39:14
Speaker 3: to the NHL when I look around the league and
39:17
Speaker 3: I look at some of these guys, and I'm thinking, man,
39:20
Speaker 3: the NHL is tough. I know Matthew Shaffer is exceeding
39:23
Speaker 3: all expectations right now, but it's not like it's Connor McDavid.
39:28
Speaker 3: Those guys. Absolutely they should have expessional status in the NHL.
39:31
Speaker 3: But I just think it's tough. It's very tough, like
39:36
Speaker 3: with the NCAA and now this, I mean, what.
39:40
Speaker 2: Do we do well? And the reason I wanted to
39:43
Speaker 2: throw my hand in the air, and actually I've got
39:46
Speaker 2: a few points just to kind of go over here.
39:48
Speaker 2: So the h look, I looked it up just to
39:50
Speaker 2: kind of for anyone that doesn't know what the rules are.
39:54
Speaker 2: So the HL veteran rule essentially restricts the number of
39:58
Speaker 2: experienced players a team can dress that they do focus
40:01
Speaker 2: on development. Rosters must include, and this is game by game,
40:05
Speaker 2: must include twelve players with two hundred and sixty or
40:08
Speaker 2: fewer professional games, while a maximum of six spots can
40:15
Speaker 2: be filled by veterans quote unquote three hundred and twenty
40:20
Speaker 2: plus games or veteran except exempt two hundred and sixty
40:26
Speaker 2: to three twenty, with specific limitations on veteran exempts. You
40:31
Speaker 2: can go look that up if you want to. So
40:33
Speaker 2: I just wanted to bring that up quickly. Second, the
40:37
Speaker 2: rush to get players to pro is one money and
40:43
Speaker 2: I know NIL and NCAA is a big part of that.
40:47
Speaker 2: Every every kid's dream is gets to get to the
40:49
Speaker 2: NHL and if they think turning pro gets them there quicker,
40:54
Speaker 2: whether we think it does or not, Like I'm kind
40:57
Speaker 2: of arguing for it. But in terms of players who
41:04
Speaker 2: might be ready for the a h L and who aren't,
41:07
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this list. Redeem because he's Schaeffer doesn't count. Yeah,
41:14
Speaker 2: I think that's definitely.
41:16
Speaker 1: I think Murca should be there. I've seen him play
41:18
Speaker 1: a lot.
41:18
Speaker 3: But.
41:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, out of everyone, I haven't watched him enough. So
41:25
Speaker 2: I can't really comment on on Merca. Brandon, Like you said,
41:28
Speaker 2: if you think he's ready, you're Sabers, You're you're all
41:32
Speaker 2: over that. If you think he's ready, then he's ready.
41:36
Speaker 2: I I I fully trust you on your assessment there.
41:39
Speaker 3: What do you look like, Brandon? Yeah? What what pairing?
41:44
Speaker 3: What pairing would you would he be on?
41:46
Speaker 1: Well? He was. He played a couple of games before
41:49
Speaker 1: he got sent back, so he sent them back to
41:52
Speaker 1: Seattle after he played weeks again red pair, But like
41:57
Speaker 1: he sheltered minutes, isn't as an eighteen year old and ill?
42:02
Speaker 2: And yeah, So I'll ask you this, Colin and Brandy.
42:05
Speaker 2: You can even chime in if you'd like to get
42:08
Speaker 2: around this where it's automatical first rounders can go the
42:11
Speaker 2: AHL at nineteen. Yeah, you mentioned exceptional status, Colin. We've
42:17
Speaker 2: got that in the OHL, We've got that in the WHL,
42:19
Speaker 2: we've got that in the QMJHL should be for the A.
42:21
Speaker 2: Would there be a board that should be created for
42:25
Speaker 2: this to the AHL instead of just if you're in
42:29
Speaker 2: the first round and you're nineteen years old, you can
42:31
Speaker 2: go to the AHL no matter what. We don't care.
42:33
Speaker 2: Teams can send them there. What if you had to
42:35
Speaker 2: go to a board, whether it's the NHL and AHL combined,
42:42
Speaker 2: whether it's just AHL. I don't know if you wrote
42:47
Speaker 2: the EHL into this, I doubt it. But what if
42:51
Speaker 2: you went into a situation like that where you had
42:53
Speaker 2: to go in front of a board, explain your case,
42:55
Speaker 2: back it up with the numbers, with your play. Maybe
42:59
Speaker 2: you're SOE plays into the factor something like that. I'm
43:04
Speaker 2: curious how that would look, what people's thoughts would be
43:06
Speaker 2: on that.
43:07
Speaker 3: No, and then that's something I'd get on board with
43:09
Speaker 3: for sure, But letting every single team, I mean like
43:13
Speaker 3: I yeah, Like I think that's a stretch Like some
43:16
Speaker 3: of these guys, I don't think it's fair, Like I
43:18
Speaker 3: agree with that if it's exceptional talent without a doubt.
43:21
Speaker 3: Like I said, right now, when I look at the
43:23
Speaker 3: league around the interial hockey, thin guy, only one guy
43:26
Speaker 3: really stands out to me, and it's Kasehawn Ahison because
43:28
Speaker 3: he already plays a physical game. He's already running around
43:31
Speaker 3: a little bit like I think the AHL like he's
43:35
Speaker 3: ready for that level. I don't know, Like I that's
43:38
Speaker 3: the only guy I can think of, Like I, I
43:41
Speaker 3: don't know, Like I feel like it's a hard like
43:44
Speaker 3: it's a hard jump. And I think we're gonna see
43:46
Speaker 3: a lot more labeled status of Bust. And maybe it's
43:50
Speaker 3: because I witnessed the Red Wings do it a bunch
43:52
Speaker 3: with Phillip Zadina like Bust, like I.
43:57
Speaker 2: Who were not fans of Michael Meanson.
44:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Ken Holland had to rush them up right
44:04
Speaker 3: Like why like why? So I think that the extra
44:08
Speaker 3: year isn't a bad thing. I don't. I think that, Like,
44:11
Speaker 3: it's kind of a disrespect to where major junior I
44:14
Speaker 3: take it as especially. Yeah, on the flip side, On
44:17
Speaker 3: the flip side, Elliott Friedman was the one who talked
44:20
Speaker 3: about it on Saturday Night Headlines. And on the flip side,
44:23
Speaker 3: Elliot Friedman's the one on his show on thirty two
44:26
Speaker 3: Thoughts has been talking about expanding the draft to a
44:29
Speaker 3: year older at getting drafted at eighteen, So then what
44:33
Speaker 3: does this do then? So then first year players will
44:35
Speaker 3: be alledge about that every gets changed in the next
44:37
Speaker 3: collector's argon. That won't be this one, obviously, but the
44:40
Speaker 3: next one that'll be the thing. And I just see
44:41
Speaker 3: the way it's going. And I look at the hockey
44:43
Speaker 3: landscape right now, and I look back to the minor
44:45
Speaker 3: hockey in this open border crap, like like man, I
44:50
Speaker 3: used to love it playing for my hometown, Like I
44:52
Speaker 3: would do whatever I could to play for my hometown.
44:54
Speaker 3: Like I don't think anybody cares anymore, Like I remember,
44:58
Speaker 3: Like baseball, we talked about it last week. He's off
45:00
Speaker 3: the record, but we talked about baseball. All these guys
45:03
Speaker 3: going to play in these city teams. He's all star
45:06
Speaker 3: teams and paying a lot of money to go nowhere.
45:08
Speaker 3: Like I don't, I just I don't like the message.
45:12
Speaker 3: And I know, like I know, money is a big
45:14
Speaker 3: thing too, because you want to get rushed to get
45:16
Speaker 3: that contract, you want to get that bag right away.
45:19
Speaker 3: And it all started in football. Football was like that
45:21
Speaker 3: in the NFL before college, all this nil stuff. Football
45:25
Speaker 3: players they want to go to the they want to
45:27
Speaker 3: go to the draft because they want to get that bag,
45:29
Speaker 3: pay for their parents, pay for their family, without a doubt.
45:31
Speaker 3: And now this is gonna happen in the NHL, where
45:33
Speaker 3: guys are rushing to get to the league. There's guys
45:37
Speaker 3: that are still battling it out in the NHL. Like
45:39
Speaker 3: I look at some guys around the league, like some
45:41
Speaker 3: of these veteran guys, you know, like I'm looking at
45:43
Speaker 3: Jamie ben Jamie ben Broke, but Dylan Larkin's neck, like
45:47
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Uh, I'm looking at like guys like
45:50
Speaker 3: Ryan O'Reilly, like these guys, like these guys are still
45:54
Speaker 3: in the league, like they're gonna Like I think it's
45:56
Speaker 3: a dangerous slope for guys, and I don't know why
45:59
Speaker 3: we rush it because I look at the guy like,
46:01
Speaker 3: and I know he's not a first round pick, but
46:03
Speaker 3: I look at a guy like AJ's Fallacy and I'm thinking, man,
46:07
Speaker 3: he's he's excelling. He's excelling. He went he's been good
46:10
Speaker 3: on windsor he's been great on Windsor he goes to
46:13
Speaker 3: the World Juniors, he was one of the best players
46:15
Speaker 3: for the US, comes back to winsor he's been great,
46:19
Speaker 3: like Liam green Tree. Liam green Tree a first round pick,
46:23
Speaker 3: Like I think this has been great for his development.
46:26
Speaker 3: I think this has been great. Like Merrick Van Actors,
46:30
Speaker 3: you're leading goal scorer in the NHL IF or in
46:32
Speaker 3: the OHL. If he's playing in the AHL this year,
46:35
Speaker 3: he's playing once every five games. And I can honestly
46:37
Speaker 3: say that with Chicago, like he's great in the OHL,
46:40
Speaker 3: but the AHL, man he's probably a scratch. Like I'm
46:43
Speaker 3: looking at guys around the I'm looking at guys around
46:46
Speaker 3: the AHL, like I mean Thomas Hamer, his teammate, playing
46:50
Speaker 3: one in every three games in Belleville, Like it's it's
46:54
Speaker 3: a tough league. And I think that like everyone I
46:56
Speaker 3: talked to about it, like it's great, but you're if
47:00
Speaker 3: it puts the pressure on the teams to still make
47:02
Speaker 3: logical decisions. Don't fall in love with a player because
47:06
Speaker 3: I and I know I ripped on the leaves because
47:09
Speaker 3: you saw that with Easton Cowen. How oh he can't
47:11
Speaker 3: he's too good to play for the Marles. But then
47:13
Speaker 3: we're only gonna play on one in every three games
47:15
Speaker 3: at the time. Obviously he's in the lineup with them
47:18
Speaker 3: being no good.
47:19
Speaker 2: But and he's gonna sit at home during the Olympics
47:22
Speaker 2: doing nothing.
47:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I would have put him in the AHL
47:25
Speaker 3: as long as I could let him play for the Marles.
47:28
Speaker 3: Let him be a first line player for them. Do
47:30
Speaker 3: not why you had to rush them up to the NHL.
47:33
Speaker 3: Why and Brandon You're seeing that with the Sabers this year.
47:37
Speaker 3: I know the Sabers had a lot of guys come
47:38
Speaker 3: up from the AHL, like that Rochester relationship, like Reace
47:43
Speaker 3: we saw it with Grand Rapids, like the Red Wings
47:46
Speaker 3: have forever sent left guys there for too long. I
47:49
Speaker 3: just think it's be patient. Realistically, getting into the ACHL
47:54
Speaker 3: at twenty or nineteen isn't gonna make a difference in
47:56
Speaker 3: my opinion. I think twenties a you're older you're in
47:59
Speaker 3: your twenties, a teenager. You're not living at someone's house
48:03
Speaker 3: just to get by. Like I, I, yeah, I struggle
48:07
Speaker 3: to like it.
48:08
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that.
48:10
Speaker 2: Like three, I think what it'll do also, too, is
48:13
Speaker 2: that's going to expose a lot of teams development And
48:18
Speaker 2: you get like, yeah, that is. I'm not gonna say
48:25
Speaker 2: that'll dig yourselves a grave by any means, But all
48:32
Speaker 2: it takes is one for it to ruin it for
48:35
Speaker 2: the rest of the organization and everyone involved. Where you
48:38
Speaker 2: send a first round pick when he's nineteen years old,
48:41
Speaker 2: let's say you draft him eleventh overall. Let's just random
48:43
Speaker 2: number Ben Kindle on this list at number eleven to Pittsburgh.
48:47
Speaker 2: But let's say you draft to get eleventh overall, send
48:49
Speaker 2: him to the HL. When he's nineteen, he's still in
48:52
Speaker 2: the HL when he's twenty five. Well, it's like, well,
48:55
Speaker 2: what would have happened if you kept him in junior
48:57
Speaker 2: for another year? And again that's of those questions where
49:00
Speaker 2: nobody has any idea how that would have turned out.
49:03
Speaker 2: But the way the modern world looks at things, Oh,
49:06
Speaker 2: you screwed up one player, so you're gonna screw up everyone.
49:08
Speaker 2: Else and say, well, yep, hmm, you know, and that like,
49:12
Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate because not every situation is the same.
49:16
Speaker 2: There are first round picks that don't pan out in
49:18
Speaker 2: the NHL. It happens Noil Yakapov unfortunately, and ohl Alum
49:23
Speaker 2: played for Sarnia. But look how highly touted he was.
49:25
Speaker 2: He had some decent years in the NHL. But you know,
49:31
Speaker 2: and again, imports are different. Imports can still go to
49:33
Speaker 2: the AHL. Earlier, that's always been a thing. I think
49:37
Speaker 2: that'll continue to be a thing. But like I said,
49:41
Speaker 2: it takes one guy. It takes one team to ruin
49:43
Speaker 2: one guy, and for it's all come crumbling down. So
49:47
Speaker 2: I think, again, you gotta be smart first round picks.
49:51
Speaker 2: I'm okay with. However, you need to be very very
49:56
Speaker 2: careful about which first round picks you're sending there. Again,
50:00
Speaker 2: two through seven makes zero sense. I think if you're
50:03
Speaker 2: a six and seventh round pick, going to the AHL
50:06
Speaker 2: is not going to solve anything quick Like, it's not
50:09
Speaker 2: going to get them the NHL quicker. Those are guys
50:11
Speaker 2: that are more than likely going to need more time
50:13
Speaker 2: in the pros in the AHL, Like we're looking at three, four,
50:16
Speaker 2: or five years unless you're at Finny. No, there's another one, right,
50:21
Speaker 2: Like again, there's an exception. It happens like some guys
50:24
Speaker 2: will succeed, some guys will fail. But that's where I
50:26
Speaker 2: think you have the first rounders. It's like I'm I'm
50:29
Speaker 2: fine with that. But again, you gotta be very very careful,
50:33
Speaker 2: very careful about who actually gets on there and how
50:36
Speaker 2: you deal with that. Honestly, I hope a GM, I
50:39
Speaker 2: hope a GM makes that decision to say, no, you're
50:42
Speaker 2: not ready. I'll eat it.
50:43
Speaker 3: I'll eat the media. I will eat it. I will
50:46
Speaker 3: eat you know what. I think that's what it's going
50:47
Speaker 3: to be.
50:48
Speaker 2: Immediately off the hot I think you're that immediately right away.
50:52
Speaker 3: If your guy is still around, you know he's gonna
50:54
Speaker 3: do it in Niger, you know, Yeah, you don't know that,
50:57
Speaker 3: like I like, I don't think it's a bad thing.
51:00
Speaker 3: I don't like you know, it's a tough league, gets it,
51:03
Speaker 3: the AHL. I mean you already got a roster, you
51:06
Speaker 3: have it. You know, it's it's a tough.
51:08
Speaker 2: It's tough.
51:09
Speaker 3: Like I I I look at some AHL teams, I'm thinking, well,
51:13
Speaker 3: Jcobrien right now on Coachella Valley is he's on the
51:16
Speaker 3: third line. Like he's on the third line. He's not
51:20
Speaker 3: a third line player. He's gonna get hurt. He's not
51:22
Speaker 3: gonna be able to check guys at the AHL level
51:25
Speaker 3: for the whole season, a longer season like that. It's hard,
51:28
Speaker 3: like I it's tough, like I think, I hope I'm
51:32
Speaker 3: gonna give props to a general manager who says, no,
51:36
Speaker 3: you're not going you're not ready.
51:37
Speaker 2: I'll eat it.
51:38
Speaker 3: But go to World Juniors, Go go play junior, Go
51:41
Speaker 3: get on the scene at World Juniors. I know there's
51:43
Speaker 3: a lot of guys that don't turn out after World Juniors,
51:45
Speaker 3: but there's also a lot of guys that do turn
51:47
Speaker 3: out because of going to World Juniors and being a star.
51:49
Speaker 3: So I think that it'll be interesting to see. I
51:51
Speaker 3: just think that what's gonna happen. I mean, I know
51:54
Speaker 3: it's not a college show, but what's gonna happen when
51:56
Speaker 3: guy's going to college? Like what now? Like? Oh, what,
52:00
Speaker 3: you're going for a six month degree? Like them? You
52:05
Speaker 3: might as well go to a community college like the
52:06
Speaker 3: old star baseball players that they're that are still kicking.
52:12
Speaker 3: But biggest waste of money there is but anyway, Yeah,
52:15
Speaker 3: I just think it's it's a lot.
52:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you can go set up a booth at
52:19
Speaker 2: the Norfolk Fair and start signing autograph so you know,
52:25
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna hit a break when we come back.
52:27
Speaker 2: We're gonna run our final draft lottery simulator before the
52:30
Speaker 2: real thing takes place. We're also going to look at
52:34
Speaker 2: the bottom four teams, the two on each side who
52:36
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs, sort of improvements that we'd like to
52:39
Speaker 2: see or what they need to do in the offseason
52:41
Speaker 2: heading into twenty twenty six seven and the.
52:47
Speaker 3: Playoffs.
52:48
Speaker 2: We're headed to the playoffs. Eight matchups to look forward to.
52:51
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Ohl and sixty podcast with Colin Ward.
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Speaker 2: I'm Reese Domani along with BC. Thank you for tuning
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Speaker 2: in on the Armho GM Sports Networks YouTube page or
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Speaker 2: if you're listening to us on your favorite podcast platform.
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Speaker 2: We've got a draft simulator to run for the final
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Speaker 2: time this season and it stays the same again. So
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Speaker 2: one through four and that'll be one as the lowest
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Speaker 2: and four as the highest remaining seed. So with the
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Speaker 2: highest odds to win the draft lottery at forty percent,
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Speaker 2: the Oshawa Generals forty two points this season with the
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Speaker 2: thirty percent chance to get the first overall pick, the
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Speaker 2: Ariadders forty five points, the team with the third highest
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Speaker 2: odds to get the first overall pick so twenty percent,
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Speaker 2: Brampton steel Heads forty eight points, and the Sarnia Sting
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Speaker 2: with a ten percent chance to get the first overall
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Speaker 2: pick finished with fifty one points. Colin Ward run the
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Speaker 2: simulator who is picking where so pick.
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Speaker 3: Number four not moving the Sarnia Sting pick fourth overall
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Speaker 3: in this upcoming March twenty fourth major Draft Lottery simulator,
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Speaker 3: the most important drafts Lottery Simulator. Yeah two date Sarnia
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Speaker 3: Picks four are in the draft. Pick number three the
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Speaker 3: Brampton steel Head or no, the Eerie Otters. Oh my gosh, sorry,
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Speaker 3: I was looking at the standings and the wrong picture
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Speaker 3: of my iPads die and so I have it all
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Speaker 3: on different the Erie Otters. Sorry to Brampton the Eerie
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Speaker 3: as they fall one spot in pick third from the
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Speaker 3: second best odds, so they'd have twenty balls in the
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Speaker 3: lottery or thirty balls in the lottery instead of forty
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Speaker 3: And they drop one spot in the Draft Lottery simulator
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Speaker 3: for March twenty fourth edition of the simulator, the most
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Speaker 3: important simulator to date. In the EHL second pick or
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Speaker 3: wait no, we go to one the first pick in
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Speaker 3: the draft, the Brampton steel Heads. They rise the most.
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Speaker 3: They go up two spots, two to one from three
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Speaker 3: to one in Oshawa picks two, so Oshawa tough, Tough,
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Speaker 3: bounce on the draft lottery simulator this season. But that's
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Speaker 3: your simulator on the YouTube screen, Sorrna for Eerie Threehawa two,
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Speaker 3: Brampton one. Well, Brandon could really use the prospect. We
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Speaker 3: spoke with Zach Bodenstein on our Trade Deadline show and
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Speaker 3: how much they need a high end prospect that comes
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Speaker 3: that they actually get.
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Speaker 2: I mean the stay.
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Speaker 3: I mean you saw them are tones right that they
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Speaker 3: can actually draft, I mean other than I even COVID,
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Speaker 3: So it'd be nice to be able to get that
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Speaker 3: guy and number one. I mean, there's plenty of options.
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Speaker 3: What's the status on Cato Rouric with the exceptional status rumors?
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Speaker 3: That could be a big one for the next show.
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Speaker 3: Maybe by next show that could be a confirmed yes
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Speaker 3: or no on his exceptional status approach defenseman out of Toronto.
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Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of options in the draft. There's
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Speaker 3: a lot of high end talent this year in the
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Speaker 3: top four. So nevertheless, all these teams are gonna get
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Speaker 3: a stud. It's just about the development and the process.
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Speaker 3: Because you can talk to Sarnia who's been in the
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Speaker 3: draft lottery last what three years? Doesn't matter how many
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Speaker 3: studs you get, you gotta find a way to get
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Speaker 3: over the hump.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's get to that because we're gonna talk
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Speaker 2: briefly here about teams that aren't in the playoffs that
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Speaker 2: whether they're missing for the first time in a while,
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Speaker 2: whether they're missing for their third year in a row,
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Speaker 2: sarn't you. Let's briefly share what they might need to
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Speaker 2: do or what they have to do in order to
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Speaker 2: not be in this conversation next year. Let's start bottom
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Speaker 2: to top, so that means the bottom Oshawa Generals. They
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Speaker 2: finished nineteen forty five to three and one for a
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Speaker 2: total of forty two points. They score one hundred and
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Speaker 2: seventy seven goals, they allowed two hundred and seventy three,
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Speaker 2: power play of nineteen percent, and the penalty kill at
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Speaker 2: seventy six point seven. Obviously, they're coming off back to
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Speaker 2: back Bobby Your trophies, which is an accomplishment on its own.
58:39
Speaker 2: So you knew a down year was coming. Whether you
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Speaker 2: thought they were going to be last or not was
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Speaker 2: a different story. But for the Oshawa General's call in ward,
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Speaker 2: what would you like to see from them in the
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Speaker 2: offseason heading into twenty six twenty seven.
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Speaker 3: It's some of the North pity battalion from a couple
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Speaker 3: of seasons ago. Right, you go to the conference final
58:55
Speaker 3: every year, the Oshawa Generals go to the final back
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Speaker 3: back years and loose to London Knights. The buzz saw
59:00
Speaker 3: the Knights that they were. And you look at that, right,
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Speaker 3: you think, well, you need the prospects. You got to
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Speaker 3: recoup those picks. They've done so with the Danford trade,
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Speaker 3: of the Sandu trade, the Wang trade. Like they've done
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Speaker 3: that so far. So continue to recoup picks. Develop. I
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Speaker 3: like Sam Roberts, but I'm thinking.
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Speaker 2: More of youth.
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Speaker 3: Like add to that young core, add to your sixteen
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Speaker 3: year olds, add to your seventeen year olds, and see
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Speaker 3: what happens here. I think a o'donald's a nice piece
59:28
Speaker 3: to get. Can you get Luca deep Placito for a
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Speaker 3: full season next season because you still have another year
59:33
Speaker 3: yet next year in between Cornell the school he committed to,
59:37
Speaker 3: so you still have an extra year yet that you
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Speaker 3: could get him. If he can get him, well, there
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Speaker 3: is a chance to put you in the playoff hunt
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Speaker 3: for next season. Continue to develop the young core. You
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Speaker 3: gotta get lucky. We talked about the Kitchen Rangers getting lucky.
59:49
Speaker 3: Right if the Oshawa Generals that they get lucky. It's
59:52
Speaker 3: a nice facility there. We'll see how the showers are.
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Speaker 3: No pun intended, sorry Oshawa, but we'll see what happens.
1:00:01
Speaker 3: But I just think that Theoshawa Generals, if you can
1:00:03
Speaker 3: continue to add to this young nucleus that you got
1:00:06
Speaker 3: through the draft last season in the first round with
1:00:08
Speaker 3: Sam Roberts, which I liked that pick, you make the
1:00:11
Speaker 3: trade for Aid and O'Donnell. You have these young talented
1:00:15
Speaker 3: players interesting to see. You know, when Griffin back right,
1:00:20
Speaker 3: you might have a decent team here next year. Just
1:00:21
Speaker 3: continue to stay patient with the rebuild here and we'll
1:00:25
Speaker 3: see how they are next year. I don't expect them
1:00:27
Speaker 3: to be a one seed next year, but I expect
1:00:29
Speaker 3: them and I don't know, and no one can expect
1:00:32
Speaker 3: to do the Ottawa sixty seven is what they did.
1:00:34
Speaker 3: But I think this team is definitely going to be
1:00:36
Speaker 3: a competitive team next year, a lot more than twentieth
1:00:38
Speaker 3: ranked in the OHL for that matter.
1:00:41
Speaker 2: Next up the Erie Otters. They finished nineteenth overall with
1:00:43
Speaker 2: a record of eighteen forty one, five and four for
1:00:47
Speaker 2: a total of forty five points. Interesting note they did
1:00:51
Speaker 2: lose more than the Earth. Yeah, they did win less
1:00:54
Speaker 2: games than the Oshawa Generals this season. However, they lost
1:00:58
Speaker 2: more in overtime, which I don't know how much of
1:01:00
Speaker 2: an accomplishment is just worst lottery odds, I guess, but yeah,
1:01:05
Speaker 2: forty five points. They they scored one hundred and seventy
1:01:08
Speaker 2: nine goals, they allowed two hundred and eighty nine, So
1:01:11
Speaker 2: that's a worse goal differential than the Aushwood Generals. They
1:01:14
Speaker 2: were eighteen point eight percent on the power play, seventy
1:01:16
Speaker 2: seven point two percent on the penalty kill otters. Unfortunately,
1:01:20
Speaker 2: back out of the playoffs, Colin, we saw a couple
1:01:22
Speaker 2: of years where they got back into the mix, and
1:01:25
Speaker 2: you know, we thought they were on an upward trajectory.
1:01:27
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously you get a stud like Matthew
1:01:30
Speaker 2: Shaeffer while you get a stud like Matthew Shaffer for
1:01:33
Speaker 2: only two years, which is really unfortunate, not even two
1:01:36
Speaker 2: years with the with the injuries he had. So are
1:01:40
Speaker 2: you at a position where you try again and start over? Colin?
1:01:43
Speaker 2: Was this year the first year of starting over? What's
1:01:46
Speaker 2: your take on them heading into next year?
1:01:49
Speaker 3: It's a team that next year and well, when we
1:01:51
Speaker 3: look back at the end of the year, We'll see
1:01:53
Speaker 3: what teams fall off. Where are the Kitchen or Rangers
1:01:56
Speaker 3: next year?
1:01:56
Speaker 2: Right? We know the gall Storm are going to be good.
1:01:59
Speaker 2: What are the one Sound Attack next season? Right?
1:02:02
Speaker 1: Like?
1:02:02
Speaker 3: The one Sound Attack could be the Eerie Otters this
1:02:04
Speaker 3: year without a doubt. If someone told me that Owen
1:02:07
Speaker 3: Sound's gonna finish where Eerie did this year next season,
1:02:10
Speaker 3: I'd be like, Hey, I'm not surprised by that. And
1:02:13
Speaker 3: I think that the Eerie Otters. You look at the
1:02:15
Speaker 3: team and I think it. I don't want to say
1:02:18
Speaker 3: this in a mean way. I don't mean an assaulting
1:02:21
Speaker 3: way Otter fans, but I think they need a little
1:02:24
Speaker 3: bit more skill. You look at their specialty teams they lack.
1:02:28
Speaker 3: I like Lucas Ambrosio, a second round pick of THEIRS.
1:02:31
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a good player for them.
1:02:34
Speaker 3: I think that if you can continue to develop these guys,
1:02:37
Speaker 3: add to young nucleus to the team, it gives you
1:02:39
Speaker 3: a chance. Let's be honest, If Matthew Schaffer's on the
1:02:42
Speaker 3: NHL and he's back an Erie, well the Otters here
1:02:44
Speaker 3: where the London Knights are this year?
1:02:45
Speaker 2: Sure? Like, yeah, it's that close. Even I even forgot
1:02:48
Speaker 2: about Spence going off to Michigan too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like.
1:02:52
Speaker 3: You just can't. You can't lose guys. You cannot lose
1:02:55
Speaker 3: guys to the nc double A. And youve got to
1:02:57
Speaker 3: continue this growth. You gotta have a process. You gotta
1:03:00
Speaker 3: have players committed for the following season. And if you
1:03:03
Speaker 3: have a good returning core group, you'll be okay. But
1:03:07
Speaker 3: continue to build to the core. Get a young talented player. Hey,
1:03:10
Speaker 3: what an opportunity if they can get Cato Rouric at
1:03:14
Speaker 3: at second overall, even that opportunity would be crazy, right,
1:03:17
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. But I just think that
1:03:21
Speaker 3: you get that chance, you add to that young nucleus.
1:03:25
Speaker 3: You did that with Matthew Schaeffer without a doubt. I
1:03:28
Speaker 3: think that they could be a competitive team next season
1:03:30
Speaker 3: if they can add that and you can't lose guys
1:03:32
Speaker 3: to the NCAA. That hurt them. That was depleting for
1:03:34
Speaker 3: them for sure the tofseason.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, next up to Brampton. Steelheads finished eighteenth overall in
1:03:40
Speaker 2: the regular season nineteen thirty nine, six and four for
1:03:44
Speaker 2: a total of forty eight points. They scored one hundred
1:03:46
Speaker 2: and sixty four goals, which is dead last in the
1:03:49
Speaker 2: Ontario Hockey League. They allowed two hundred and forty six
1:03:53
Speaker 2: goals this season, eighteen point one percent on the power play,
1:03:56
Speaker 2: seventy five point two percent on the penalty kill definitely
1:03:59
Speaker 2: didn't help. Losing Jack Ivankovic to Michigan Big Ten champs,
1:04:03
Speaker 2: Let's go Blue uh and uh Port of Martone to
1:04:07
Speaker 2: Michigan State, Michigan's little brother. You that's tough, right, And
1:04:12
Speaker 2: and you could compare that to the Erie Oters losing
1:04:15
Speaker 2: Schaeffer losing Spence, like it's very similar. Yes, hey, yes,
1:04:20
Speaker 2: not a defenseman included in that eree didn't lose a goaltender. However,
1:04:24
Speaker 2: skill wise it's very very similar. And you know, Brampton
1:04:27
Speaker 2: after a season where they were number one in the
1:04:31
Speaker 2: chl EGO rankings off the hop and then they lose
1:04:34
Speaker 2: out in round one and and then you go to
1:04:36
Speaker 2: this like it's just just a couple of first tough
1:04:39
Speaker 2: years in Brampton when you expect to have a great
1:04:42
Speaker 2: first year in the new barn and in the new city.
1:04:45
Speaker 2: And then you follow it up with Ivan Covid unfortunately
1:04:48
Speaker 2: leaving for Michigan, although it worked out for US Michigan
1:04:51
Speaker 2: fans and then Martone leaving for Michigan State. Yeah, it
1:04:55
Speaker 2: sucks for the OHL. You're you're absolutely right, so and
1:04:58
Speaker 2: and you already touched on it. Uh with our conversation
1:05:01
Speaker 2: with Zach Bodenstein. You got to developed through the draft.
1:05:04
Speaker 2: You have to. You have to the Brampton Steelheads. I
1:05:07
Speaker 2: don't think there's really many other options. Obviously we've seen Jr.
1:05:11
Speaker 2: Make trades, but right now you've got to look at
1:05:14
Speaker 2: the draft.
1:05:16
Speaker 3: And they've struggled in the draft. They have struggled in
1:05:18
Speaker 3: the draft. There's two things. There's two things that I
1:05:20
Speaker 3: think about the Brampton steel Heads. That's off, she don't
1:05:22
Speaker 3: get decimated by the NCAA again if they get gutted.
1:05:26
Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna be honest with you guys right
1:05:29
Speaker 3: now as I help them honest rowte the show.
1:05:32
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, have you been lying to
1:05:34
Speaker 2: us all since?
1:05:35
Speaker 3: No? No, But I think the Brampton and Brampton steel
1:05:40
Speaker 3: Heads weren't a good hockey team this year. I'm just
1:05:43
Speaker 3: gonna say it. They were not a good hockey team
1:05:45
Speaker 3: this year. But they worked their butts off. I thought,
1:05:48
Speaker 3: I really did, like they didn't have a lot of
1:05:50
Speaker 3: talent but the team worked their butts off and then
1:05:55
Speaker 3: you see the goal on Sunday Stan Coban through the legs,
1:05:58
Speaker 3: like they're starting to get skilled. But and I hate
1:06:00
Speaker 3: to say this, but stank Covin scores a gold. I'm thinking,
1:06:03
Speaker 3: oh gosh, you imagine if he hands up in the
1:06:04
Speaker 3: NC DOUBLEA next year. Like, you know, like you can't
1:06:09
Speaker 3: get decimated by the NC Double A. You cannot get
1:06:12
Speaker 3: decimated by the NC Double A. Maybe this is a
1:06:14
Speaker 3: business thing. Maybe this is more of a business question
1:06:17
Speaker 3: over on ice, more like upgrade the facility, you know,
1:06:20
Speaker 3: And like I just think that, like you gotta you
1:06:25
Speaker 3: gotta get on you gotta be able to keep guys
1:06:27
Speaker 3: this year, and too, like you mentioned the draft. Those
1:06:30
Speaker 3: are the two things I wanted to mention.
1:06:31
Speaker 2: The draft.
1:06:32
Speaker 3: Yes, you gotta commit to the draft this year. They
1:06:34
Speaker 3: have to have a good draft. They have the most
1:06:35
Speaker 3: important draft out of any team right now. Two can't
1:06:40
Speaker 3: get decimated by because if they get decimated by the
1:06:42
Speaker 3: NC Double A, it's over. There's another bad year and
1:06:46
Speaker 3: then you're all of a sudden, you're the sarniest thing.
1:06:50
Speaker 2: And you're moving to Cornwall.
1:06:53
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:06:54
Speaker 2: Oh, playing especially and then maybe becoming Cornwall who knows,
1:07:00
Speaker 2: but the OHL has discussed expansion more than relocation, so well,
1:07:04
Speaker 2: we'll leave that one alone. But yeah, let's let's get
1:07:07
Speaker 2: to the Sarnia Sting Colin twenty one thirty eight, eight
1:07:09
Speaker 2: and one for a total of fifty one points. They
1:07:12
Speaker 2: scored two hundred and five goals, they allowed two hundred
1:07:14
Speaker 2: and eighty nine. They did finish the year in a
1:07:16
Speaker 2: three game winning streak, though might have hurt their chances
1:07:20
Speaker 2: for the first overall pick, which is unfortunate for the
1:07:23
Speaker 2: front office but awesome for the players. Eighteen point eight
1:07:26
Speaker 2: percent on the power play, seventy four point eight percent
1:07:29
Speaker 2: on the penalty kill, and the Sarnia Sting right now,
1:07:32
Speaker 2: Colin are into ice Dog's territory from fall check to
1:07:41
Speaker 2: last year or the year before that, i should say,
1:07:44
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty four territory before they made the playoffs
1:07:53
Speaker 2: back to back years. That's kind of where the Sarniast
1:07:56
Speaker 2: thing are. They're teetering on what Niagara and Eerie were
1:07:59
Speaker 2: for for a number of years. And obviously there have
1:08:02
Speaker 2: been more than those teams to go without playoffs for
1:08:05
Speaker 2: three four five years. It has happened before, but that
1:08:10
Speaker 2: is an issue for Well Western I mean, first of
1:08:15
Speaker 2: all fans of the London Nights and Sarnia Sting, because
1:08:17
Speaker 2: you want that series to be competitive every year and
1:08:19
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what team is on the ice, I
1:08:21
Speaker 2: mean always, it's going to provide hype. But like it
1:08:27
Speaker 2: was a rough year for hockeys Sarnia, we're gonna be blunt,
1:08:29
Speaker 2: oh and fifty Legionnaires, which is still higher on the
1:08:34
Speaker 2: power rankings in the Oushwall Legionaires and then the Sarnia
1:08:38
Speaker 2: Sting missing the playoffs third year in a row. Just Colin,
1:08:43
Speaker 2: we know your opinion on this already. We we've kind
1:08:45
Speaker 2: of BC and I have heard it already. But share
1:08:48
Speaker 2: with the with the listeners because I think there's a
1:08:50
Speaker 2: few people on social media that will agree with you.
1:08:54
Speaker 3: Start the engines, winding it up, going to going to
1:08:58
Speaker 3: circle advertisings. No, I think the I think the Sarnia
1:09:04
Speaker 3: Sting and I look back for the last couple of
1:09:08
Speaker 3: seasons and I ain't surprised. The old moneyball reference there's
1:09:12
Speaker 3: fifty feet a crap and then there's us, and then
1:09:15
Speaker 3: the well the drop and then there's us. That that's
1:09:19
Speaker 3: the Sarniest thing right now. They need somebody that can
1:09:22
Speaker 3: actually make a competent decision in the front office. That's
1:09:25
Speaker 3: one without a doubt. They had Joey Sinclair, a high end,
1:09:30
Speaker 3: elite talent in the BHL, who was after training camp,
1:09:35
Speaker 3: who was at the training camp this year, who wanted
1:09:38
Speaker 3: to sign. He wanted to play for this arniest thing
1:09:41
Speaker 3: this season and it didn't get it done. Where's he
1:09:45
Speaker 3: Branford Bulldogs for next season? But he signs with the
1:09:49
Speaker 3: Branford Bulldogs two back a couple of seasons ago. Evan
1:09:55
Speaker 3: van Gorp after training camp. It's after training camp. Never
1:10:02
Speaker 3: never got a contract. Where's he? He's an Oway Child
1:10:05
Speaker 3: champion for the London Nights. That one hurts the most.
1:10:08
Speaker 3: That one's gonna hurt the most of the Sarnia's damn
1:10:11
Speaker 3: letting him go up the four h two like that.
1:10:13
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm like, you know, like it's
1:10:15
Speaker 3: a complete joke. Like who's ever who's ever eyeing talent
1:10:20
Speaker 3: there doesn't know talent clearly? What are like? They need
1:10:25
Speaker 3: a complete overhaul in the front office. I look at
1:10:27
Speaker 3: through roster. I look at through roster. When I look
1:10:30
Speaker 3: at guys, the Oreo high end pick recently he's a
1:10:35
Speaker 3: good player, He's a talented player. I like Mitch Young,
1:10:38
Speaker 3: but they should have moved him. They should have traded
1:10:40
Speaker 3: them when they could, when they had values for him.
1:10:42
Speaker 3: Why did they sit on that right? Why make those
1:10:46
Speaker 3: moves They made the Lucas Fisher, they had to make that.
1:10:48
Speaker 3: I saw that coming for a while though now behind
1:10:51
Speaker 3: the scenes, we've been talking about that deal for about
1:10:54
Speaker 3: since last year. We were talking about him getting moved
1:10:56
Speaker 3: in Sarnia. But they.
1:11:00
Speaker 2: Lemons.
1:11:01
Speaker 3: They draft them this past year top four, top four pick,
1:11:06
Speaker 3: where like they have talent. When are we gonna make
1:11:10
Speaker 3: decisions here and build around it? Like this is a
1:11:14
Speaker 3: complete joke. Like I'm at a loss for words, believe
1:11:20
Speaker 3: it or not that the Sarnia sting cannot figure it out.
1:11:25
Speaker 3: And I don't know what the deal is with Sarnia,
1:11:27
Speaker 3: maybe because it's a I mean, it is out there,
1:11:30
Speaker 3: like you're not. It's not like players from the States
1:11:32
Speaker 3: are just gonna come over the border and play for you.
1:11:34
Speaker 3: But like I I struggle to see Sarnia this poor.
1:11:40
Speaker 2: Like but like I know, I don't get that they've
1:11:43
Speaker 2: got the barn. Yeah, they've got the market, You've got
1:11:47
Speaker 2: everything there you're right. Is it just because you can't
1:11:49
Speaker 2: evaluate talent properly? I don't know. They've got everything there
1:11:54
Speaker 2: that the college is right there, Like you've got tons
1:11:57
Speaker 2: of parking that's free, Like the mall's just down the street.
1:12:01
Speaker 2: Sure you're not downtown, but Chuck's at it. Also, what's
1:12:03
Speaker 2: downtowns aren't you? Yeah, there's a Chucks right there. Well,
1:12:08
Speaker 2: there's slots in casino, but obviously that's not for the players.
1:12:11
Speaker 2: That's for their parents that come to town to watch
1:12:14
Speaker 2: them play. But I mean, like you've got everything there
1:12:18
Speaker 2: that you need to succeed. You're right? What the hell
1:12:22
Speaker 2: is going on? Mind the scenes?
1:12:24
Speaker 3: Hey, hockey hockey? This doesn't really It happens a lot
1:12:28
Speaker 3: in hockey, but not as not as often as like
1:12:31
Speaker 3: as baseball fans, not as often as baseball, where baseball
1:12:34
Speaker 3: the first person to get fired a lot of the
1:12:36
Speaker 3: times after the general manager is the farm director. And
1:12:40
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a scouting I like, you
1:12:43
Speaker 3: don't usually see the scouting overhauled in hockey like you
1:12:46
Speaker 3: do in other sports like baseball. Football is pretty consistent,
1:12:49
Speaker 3: like hockey, basketball, it's usually Baseball is probably the most
1:12:52
Speaker 3: we're the most pressure, but hockey, like, you gotta like
1:12:57
Speaker 3: these decisions. Like eventually there's got to be a time
1:13:00
Speaker 3: where you got to eat that, Like you got to
1:13:03
Speaker 3: eat those decisions. Hey, credits and the nager Ice dogs
1:13:05
Speaker 3: they can make a decision to save their lives other
1:13:07
Speaker 3: than make a trade with London. Then all of a
1:13:09
Speaker 3: sudden they get Frankie Vola in, he makes decisions and boom, right,
1:13:14
Speaker 3: like now all of a sudden they have a decent deadline.
1:13:17
Speaker 3: I like up a chromiac wang. Obviously, their teams played
1:13:21
Speaker 3: like crap in the second half, and I've called am
1:13:23
Speaker 3: Ice frauds for the last three weeks and they haven't
1:13:25
Speaker 3: done anything about it, So they're a fraud. But at
1:13:28
Speaker 3: the same point, at the same point, at least they've
1:13:31
Speaker 3: started to make competent decisions publicly. I mean, maybe the
1:13:35
Speaker 3: Penn Center Movie Theater disagrees, but I just think, I'm sorry,
1:13:40
Speaker 3: I just think I just think.
1:13:42
Speaker 2: That, well, they're playing the same opponent this year.
1:13:45
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, at least they're making decisions. So now, at
1:13:49
Speaker 3: least it feels like there's decisions being made. Where Sarnia,
1:13:52
Speaker 3: it's like, man, you had this guy in your hands.
1:13:56
Speaker 3: Van gorp O. Waitchel champion, Evan van gorp you had them.
1:14:01
Speaker 3: You can't tell me Evan van Gorp up in a
1:14:04
Speaker 3: big role. Then then the worst comes the worst. You
1:14:07
Speaker 3: don't make the trade with London this year and you
1:14:09
Speaker 3: give London a good player. Now they get home ice
1:14:13
Speaker 3: in the first round. Like I I don't think. Like
1:14:17
Speaker 3: I said, I like the Fisher trade. Probably asked me
1:14:20
Speaker 3: that a year from now, as this pattern continues, I'm
1:14:22
Speaker 3: gonna say it's a horrible trade because look at the
1:14:24
Speaker 3: last couple of trades here at the Sting. But you
1:14:28
Speaker 3: let Sinclair get away after he was definitely interested. You
1:14:30
Speaker 3: signed Sinclair. All of a sudden, you got five new
1:14:32
Speaker 3: guys that are committed to the NCAA, that are from
1:14:35
Speaker 3: the BCHL, that could play, and that could play a
1:14:38
Speaker 3: regular role in your lineup. You sign those guys all
1:14:40
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you got at least five to ten
1:14:43
Speaker 3: more players coming May. I'm not even kidding with possibly ten.
1:14:47
Speaker 3: Then you have a core. Then you have a chance
1:14:49
Speaker 3: to compete until you make competent decisions. The Sarnia Sting
1:14:54
Speaker 3: are gonna be in the basement and you gotta make
1:14:56
Speaker 3: a decision. Ownership here, like new ownership. That's gonna be
1:14:59
Speaker 3: interesting too. They just got new ownership this past year.
1:15:02
Speaker 3: That's going to be very interesting to see what their
1:15:05
Speaker 3: approach is starting now in the offseason, because I think
1:15:09
Speaker 3: something's going to be done before the draft, no doubt.
1:15:11
Speaker 3: Being in June, something has to be done before the draft.
1:15:15
Speaker 2: I can't believe we've just spent eight to ten minutes
1:15:17
Speaker 2: on the sarniest thing, but we had some laughs.
1:15:19
Speaker 1: It was okay, yeah, in the draft lottery as well.
1:15:23
Speaker 1: It's going to be taking place the night of the
1:15:26
Speaker 1: Ohl Cup on the Wednesday, the fur or whatever next
1:15:30
Speaker 1: Wednesday is.
1:15:32
Speaker 3: The uh the first or second April fools.
1:15:38
Speaker 1: Nope, it's going to be a thing, all right.
1:15:40
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just joke breaking news on the Ohl
1:15:43
Speaker 2: and sixty podcast. There you go, there you go, everyone,
1:15:46
Speaker 2: get ready for it.
1:15:48
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the playoffs because we're not
1:15:55
Speaker 3: surprised you'd have like a lot of six forty nine
1:15:57
Speaker 3: shirt or something. I mean, Edwins have been in there
1:16:00
Speaker 3: for the last billion years. They're looking on pace to
1:16:03
Speaker 3: go back in the lottery this year, but they don't.
1:16:04
Speaker 2: Have a pick, so sucks. Who what what? Mister fourteen
1:16:10
Speaker 2: years out of the playoffs.
1:16:12
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm worried we're gonna join them.
1:16:15
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, hey, at least our Stanley Cup
1:16:18
Speaker 2: photos in color unlike Toronto. Yeah, so there we go.
1:16:21
Speaker 2: We have that going for us. We're gonna start with
1:16:23
Speaker 2: the Western We're gonna start with the Western Conference. Just
1:16:27
Speaker 2: a few points on each matchup in round number one.
1:16:31
Speaker 2: So we'll start with the Kitchen Rangers in the Saganaw
1:16:33
Speaker 2: Spirit Saganaw twenty six, thirty four or four and for
1:16:38
Speaker 2: the season for a total of sixty points. The Kitchen
1:16:40
Speaker 2: Rangers forty seven, fourteen, five and two with one hundred
1:16:43
Speaker 2: and one points. This year they were the Midwest Division champions.
1:16:47
Speaker 2: Obviously they get the number one overall seed in the
1:16:50
Speaker 2: Western Conference as well. What are you looking for in
1:16:54
Speaker 2: this series? Is it easy to say yeah, Kitchener in
1:16:57
Speaker 2: four or five? Are you looking at something different? And
1:17:00
Speaker 2: what's your take on it?
1:17:02
Speaker 3: I think this could go either way. I think that
1:17:04
Speaker 3: I think this series is gonna go quick in favor
1:17:06
Speaker 3: of the Rangers. I don't think it's gonna be more
1:17:07
Speaker 3: than five games. In fact, I have the Rangers in five.
1:17:10
Speaker 3: But I think that the one thing that's gonna be interesting.
1:17:12
Speaker 3: I think Saganaw's high scoring offense upfront Clipoff bearra Bandoff
1:17:17
Speaker 3: can steal a game. Can the goaltending steal a game?
1:17:21
Speaker 1: Though?
1:17:21
Speaker 3: On top of the goals because and Ken Kitchener put
1:17:25
Speaker 3: together four consistent wins where you don't give up multiple
1:17:30
Speaker 3: multiple goals. Because if you get in to track me,
1:17:32
Speaker 3: that does not favor the Rangers in this game. In
1:17:35
Speaker 3: this series, especially as you go to the road City
1:17:37
Speaker 3: that's when the series starts. I expect the Rangers take
1:17:40
Speaker 3: the first two games and drop game three, win four
1:17:42
Speaker 3: and five, and the Rangers are on the second round.
1:17:47
Speaker 3: I think the depth of the Rangers is stronger. I
1:17:49
Speaker 3: think that it'll be interesting to see how the Spirit
1:17:51
Speaker 3: want to match up with that to the best of
1:17:53
Speaker 3: their abilities. I mean, if you load up one line,
1:17:55
Speaker 3: well then okay, I'm putting Samuel Riiley line of the
1:17:57
Speaker 3: Gabe Shuratt line as my shutdown line. With Gabe, you'ret
1:18:00
Speaker 3: I guess against their top line. I'm letting O'Riley go
1:18:02
Speaker 3: have a blast and score all the goals he wants
1:18:05
Speaker 3: and him Edwards continue to build that momentum that we've
1:18:09
Speaker 3: saw in the regular season translate to the postseason Rangers
1:18:11
Speaker 3: in five.
1:18:13
Speaker 2: We all we did run Twitter polls as well before
1:18:16
Speaker 2: recording the show this week and wanted to get the
1:18:19
Speaker 2: fans take on who they think would win each playoff matchup. Brandon,
1:18:22
Speaker 2: we will start with Kitchener and Saganaw. What do the
1:18:25
Speaker 2: fans have to say?
1:18:26
Speaker 1: Ninety seven percent Kitchener Rangers.
1:18:30
Speaker 3: Makes sense.
1:18:31
Speaker 2: You knit pretty well unanimous that Kitchener is going to
1:18:34
Speaker 2: take that one. You look at the two to seven matchup,
1:18:36
Speaker 2: it's the windsor Spitfires in the gwelf Storm. Gwelf Storm
1:18:39
Speaker 2: finishing the season with a twenty eight to thirty five
1:18:42
Speaker 2: to two and three record for a total of sixty
1:18:44
Speaker 2: one points, just ahead of the Saganaw Spirit who finished
1:18:48
Speaker 2: with sixty The Windsor spit Fires forty four, fifteen, six
1:18:52
Speaker 2: and three for a total of ninety seven points. Obviously,
1:18:55
Speaker 2: the gwelf Storm more or less looking forward to next season, however,
1:19:00
Speaker 2: this is big to get into the postseason, get those
1:19:03
Speaker 2: young players experience in the playoffs. Albeit the first round
1:19:07
Speaker 2: is way different than what potentially a third and fourth
1:19:11
Speaker 2: round could look like next year, what the Memorial Cup
1:19:13
Speaker 2: tournament will look like next year. But to get their
1:19:16
Speaker 2: feet wet in the postseason. I think that's the ultimate
1:19:18
Speaker 2: goal for the gwelf Storm and obviously for the Spitfires. Well,
1:19:22
Speaker 2: you're going for a championship, two different teams at two
1:19:25
Speaker 2: stages in the in their organizational development. And is it
1:19:31
Speaker 2: windsor is it gwelfh are we looking four? Five, six seven?
1:19:34
Speaker 2: What do you think? Damn it? I just said six seven,
1:19:37
Speaker 2: that's another fine. I'm up to two now. I oh man, Colin,
1:19:41
Speaker 2: let's you take on this one. Let's forget. Let's forget.
1:19:44
Speaker 2: I said that is.
1:19:45
Speaker 3: The icont I got, I got, I got Wake, No,
1:19:51
Speaker 3: I got Windsor in five, I don't. Well, special teams
1:19:54
Speaker 3: really concerns me to the point where I'm literally thinking
1:19:57
Speaker 3: of Windsor in four. You gotta score on the power play.
1:20:00
Speaker 3: The power play for gwelf. If you get power play
1:20:02
Speaker 3: opportunities against a tough winsor team and you don't score
1:20:05
Speaker 3: on the power play, you ain't winning. I think that
1:20:09
Speaker 3: the gwelf Storm are in tough here. It's gonna be
1:20:11
Speaker 3: a great experience for the young players. But you're gonna
1:20:15
Speaker 3: need Joe Banowski to have a heck of a series
1:20:19
Speaker 3: and steal you a couple to have a chance, and
1:20:21
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can steal four games in
1:20:22
Speaker 3: a series against the windsor Spitfires.
1:20:24
Speaker 2: I got winsor in five Brandon, what do the fans
1:20:28
Speaker 2: have to say?
1:20:29
Speaker 1: N windsor wow high?
1:20:36
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah yeah. Next up the Flint Firebirds and
1:20:39
Speaker 2: Owen Sound Attack. It is a three to six matchup
1:20:42
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference. Flint Firebirds finishing at forty four seventeen,
1:20:46
Speaker 2: four and three for a total of ninety five points,
1:20:49
Speaker 2: the Owen Sound Attack twenty seven, thirty two, four and
1:20:52
Speaker 2: five for sixty three points on the season. Again, I
1:20:56
Speaker 2: think two teams that are headed in different directions over
1:20:59
Speaker 2: the next couple of years. I think Flint has a
1:21:02
Speaker 2: chance to be to be good again next year. I
1:21:04
Speaker 2: think the Only Sound Attack have a lot of soul
1:21:06
Speaker 2: searching to do once this season is over. What what
1:21:10
Speaker 2: what do you look at for this series? Calling?
1:21:13
Speaker 3: If Vaccari plays four really good games like he has
1:21:17
Speaker 3: a regular season Firebrids and four only sweep I have
1:21:21
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference? Is the Flint fire bridge.
1:21:23
Speaker 2: Over the all Sound Attack? I owe sound I mean
1:21:27
Speaker 2: I see two different teams.
1:21:29
Speaker 3: I see pre deadline and post deadline, and I don't.
1:21:34
Speaker 3: I don't like what I see right now personally, they
1:21:36
Speaker 3: don't pass the eye test. Uh, I'm gonna go Flint
1:21:40
Speaker 3: and four vacary vacari. If he play, if he plays
1:21:44
Speaker 3: four really good games, if he plays for good games,
1:21:48
Speaker 3: why wouldn't Flint win him four?
1:21:51
Speaker 2: Brandon, what do the fans have to say?
1:21:54
Speaker 1: The fans for this one are Flint Firebirds eighty seven?
1:21:58
Speaker 3: Wow, so thinking against me kind of before.
1:22:02
Speaker 2: Mea they're pretty well on the same page, I would say, yeah, true.
1:22:10
Speaker 2: Next up is the four to five matchup in the
1:22:12
Speaker 2: Western Conference, the London Nights and the Sue Greyhounds. Just
1:22:15
Speaker 2: one point separation between the two. London gets home ice
1:22:19
Speaker 2: the Night's finishing forty twenty three, four and one for
1:22:22
Speaker 2: eighty five points. That is a rebuilding year for the
1:22:25
Speaker 2: London Nights. For anyone wondering out there, thirty nine, twenty three,
1:22:29
Speaker 2: one and five were the Sue Greyhounds at eighty four points.
1:22:34
Speaker 3: Reche Do you remember one of the first times we
1:22:36
Speaker 3: ever talked ohl hockey together at ts N eleven fifty
1:22:40
Speaker 3: one of the comments that I made about the London
1:22:42
Speaker 3: Knights a year after twenty eighteen.
1:22:45
Speaker 2: I'm sure I will when you remind me, so.
1:22:48
Speaker 3: I'll never forget It's a Tuesday morning, and I will
1:22:51
Speaker 3: never forget this when all I mentioned is and this
1:22:56
Speaker 3: is I was in college as a Knights fan, and
1:22:59
Speaker 3: as a year after they got swept in the first round.
1:23:02
Speaker 3: All one sound and I said, oh, it's nice that
1:23:04
Speaker 3: the Knights are good this year, and reached many gives
1:23:07
Speaker 3: me the look.
1:23:08
Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was winter twenty nineteen, like January
1:23:10
Speaker 2: February twenty nineteen.
1:23:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like, oh, it's so nice that nights
1:23:14
Speaker 3: are good this year. The look I got it's like
1:23:16
Speaker 3: this year I was gonna London nights. Why this is
1:23:20
Speaker 3: never this has never been more true.
1:23:23
Speaker 2: It was hilarious because you're a Knights fan interning in
1:23:27
Speaker 2: a Hamilton bulldogs market. At the time, I was also
1:23:30
Speaker 2: interning uh slash, working with the ice dogs in a
1:23:34
Speaker 2: Hamilton bulldogs market. So you have the London Knights, which
1:23:37
Speaker 2: a lot of markets don't like the London Knights. You've
1:23:41
Speaker 2: got the Niger ice Dogs which looking at twenty twelve
1:23:45
Speaker 2: and twenty sixteen, that's why they don't like the London Knights.
1:23:49
Speaker 2: I mean, Hamilton was very grateful for for London for
1:23:53
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen for Robert Thomas, but then also Connor McMichael
1:23:57
Speaker 2: the other way. But no, that was just money the
1:24:00
Speaker 2: way it worked out because I think the first day
1:24:02
Speaker 2: that you were there, I had my ice dog's hat
1:24:04
Speaker 2: on because I had to go into the office, and
1:24:07
Speaker 2: then you had your night's hat on, and we both
1:24:09
Speaker 2: kind of looked at each other like, hmm, I'm not
1:24:13
Speaker 2: sure if this is gonna work out or not, and
1:24:16
Speaker 2: then you know, we're talking baseball. Yeah, the one time
1:24:21
Speaker 2: I toppd baseball on TSN eleven fifty was with us,
1:24:24
Speaker 2: so that was funny. But go back to Sue Saint
1:24:28
Speaker 2: Marie in London? Does it? And and I'll ask you
1:24:30
Speaker 2: this more of a like kind of how you see
1:24:32
Speaker 2: this series, but more in the lens of is there
1:24:36
Speaker 2: an advantage with home ice in this series? Because Budweiser
1:24:40
Speaker 2: Gardens and GFL Memorial Gardens are two completely different buildings.
1:24:45
Speaker 2: Do you see the Knights now winning this series because
1:24:49
Speaker 2: they have home ice despite them technically like a lot
1:24:52
Speaker 2: of people would view them as the underdog because Sue
1:24:55
Speaker 2: Saint Marie on paper has a better roster. However, the
1:24:58
Speaker 2: factor of home ice in London might counter that, So
1:25:02
Speaker 2: do you view it any different based on who gets
1:25:04
Speaker 2: oh mice in this series?
1:25:07
Speaker 3: I think this is the narrow I think this year,
1:25:09
Speaker 3: the four or five matchup, like plenty years, is the
1:25:11
Speaker 3: most narrowest. It could be a hgo either way. I
1:25:14
Speaker 3: think the East is a little bit more decided in
1:25:16
Speaker 3: the West without a doubt with London too. I know
1:25:20
Speaker 3: it's playoffs, and when we're in the playoffs we talk
1:25:24
Speaker 3: about mental things. The Maple Leaps can't get over the
1:25:29
Speaker 3: Boston Bruins love that memory, you know, like you can't
1:25:33
Speaker 3: get over certain hunts and New York Flakies, can't get
1:25:35
Speaker 3: over the Toronto Blue Jays or the Detroit Tigers.
1:25:39
Speaker 2: I would say the Tigers was one year time.
1:25:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, right, like they can't get over
1:25:46
Speaker 3: the Tigers or the Red Sox sometimes. But this one
1:25:50
Speaker 3: is for Carter George.
1:25:54
Speaker 2: Deficit for the Red Sox against the Yankees.
1:25:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, they came back, right, that's an all timer clip
1:26:02
Speaker 3: that one with me. I will and you know, I'm
1:26:05
Speaker 3: just joking. I wish I had twenty seven rs. I'll
1:26:08
Speaker 3: be going around my head when my head wouldn't even
1:26:10
Speaker 3: fit in the North America if the Blue Jays had
1:26:13
Speaker 3: somehow twenty seven wins or rings. But I just think
1:26:17
Speaker 3: with this, Carter George as what two wins against the
1:26:22
Speaker 3: London Knights in his career. Mentally, we know that's all
1:26:27
Speaker 3: about in sports. You see it every year in the postseason.
1:26:30
Speaker 3: In the postseason, we see this all the time. Like
1:26:32
Speaker 3: I said, the Leafs can't get over the Boston Bruins.
1:26:35
Speaker 3: Now the Florida Panthers, Like, is Carter George the Leafs
1:26:41
Speaker 3: to the London Nights Boston Bruins. We'll find out can
1:26:45
Speaker 3: you get over that? And I know this could be
1:26:48
Speaker 3: dumb that I'm saying this, but I saw his record
1:26:51
Speaker 3: against the London Nights, and I'm thinking, well, you never know,
1:26:54
Speaker 3: it's a tough arena to play in a Friday night
1:26:57
Speaker 3: at the.
1:26:57
Speaker 2: Canada Life Place. I miss saying the Bud.
1:26:59
Speaker 3: Friday Night at the Bud just sounded better, yeah, or
1:27:02
Speaker 3: the JLC. But uh, I just think a Friday Sunday,
1:27:06
Speaker 3: first two games in London, nine thousand strong, Here we go,
1:27:11
Speaker 3: here we go, and obviously this London team isn't the
1:27:13
Speaker 3: London team. But I will say this, I think my
1:27:17
Speaker 3: point five percent out of one hundreds or ninety five
1:27:22
Speaker 3: percent doesn't. The longer the London Knights can hang around
1:27:26
Speaker 3: in this series, the more it favors them. And there's
1:27:31
Speaker 3: one thing I truly believe, and I think we both
1:27:35
Speaker 3: agree on this, that the Sue Greyhounds will without a
1:27:40
Speaker 3: doubt get out coached by Dale Hunter in this first round.
1:27:43
Speaker 3: The coaching I don't, I don't. I don't agree with
1:27:46
Speaker 3: the Sue philosophy for coaching. And I truly believe Dale
1:27:51
Speaker 3: Hunter puts something together like he has what every single
1:27:54
Speaker 3: season he's got to get planned except for that Owen
1:27:57
Speaker 3: Sound series. Other than that, I truly believe if you
1:28:01
Speaker 3: let if you let Dale Hunter cook, not Russell Wilson
1:28:05
Speaker 3: in Denver style, if you let Dale Hunter cook London Nights,
1:28:09
Speaker 3: You're gonna win this in seven games, because if it
1:28:11
Speaker 3: goes longer, then Knights win the series.
1:28:14
Speaker 2: So in other words, if it goes past five, you
1:28:17
Speaker 2: like the London Knights more than the Sue Greyhounds.
1:28:21
Speaker 3: Because you look at the high end skill on Suit,
1:28:22
Speaker 3: you look at the high end skill on Sue, Right Carter, George,
1:28:25
Speaker 3: Brady Martin. You get them in a series if they
1:28:27
Speaker 3: fall down. If they go down, one. Oh, go down
1:28:31
Speaker 3: two to one. Yeah, they go down two to one.
1:28:35
Speaker 3: We're going seven And that favors the London Knights to
1:28:38
Speaker 3: a t. The longer the series goes, the more it
1:28:40
Speaker 3: favors the London Knights. If it's but beyond five games,
1:28:44
Speaker 3: the London Knights without a doubt or winning this series.
1:28:46
Speaker 2: On Brandon, What are the fans saying this?
1:28:49
Speaker 1: There's a shocker here, all right, Sue Greyhounds sixty six percent,
1:28:54
Speaker 1: London thirty four.
1:28:56
Speaker 3: Those are all those haters, you know what.
1:28:57
Speaker 2: I'm not really surprised about that, to be honest. Yeah,
1:29:00
Speaker 2: I think Sue's favored in this one. But I also
1:29:04
Speaker 2: I also understand the logic of well, yeah, you get
1:29:08
Speaker 2: six or seven and then you know, potentially a seventh
1:29:10
Speaker 2: you're forced to go into into c LP. Yeah that
1:29:14
Speaker 2: doesn't sound the same play against the London Nights. Like again,
1:29:19
Speaker 2: you're right, it's all mental. Like again, on paper, Sue
1:29:22
Speaker 2: Greyhounds are a better team. But if they get in
1:29:24
Speaker 2: their own heads and and they get intimidated by the butt,
1:29:27
Speaker 2: and and and and I don't expect that to be
1:29:30
Speaker 2: the case for top guys like Martin, like like read
1:29:32
Speaker 2: like like yeah, so but yeah, it wasn't awesome. But also, yeah,
1:29:44
Speaker 2: we talked about that at Christmas.
1:29:45
Speaker 3: But who do you say? Who do you say?
1:29:48
Speaker 2: Man, I'm on your side. If it's four or five,
1:29:51
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be four. But if it's four
1:29:52
Speaker 2: or five, I'm going sue you're right. But if it's longer,
1:29:55
Speaker 2: if they get into a game seven, it's London. I
1:29:57
Speaker 2: think London wins Game seven.
1:29:58
Speaker 3: I agree.
1:29:59
Speaker 2: I six is a toss up, but obviously it depends
1:30:02
Speaker 2: on who's leading this series. But if it's seven games,
1:30:06
Speaker 2: I'm I'm taking London all day too.
1:30:08
Speaker 3: I say London and seven tunes. It's the only game
1:30:10
Speaker 3: seven I have. I think this round this Yeah.
1:30:15
Speaker 2: I've got a couple. Actually we'll get to that in
1:30:18
Speaker 2: just a second, so we'll switch to the Eastern Conference
1:30:21
Speaker 2: one versus eight? It is the Hamlet or damn it?
1:30:28
Speaker 1: That's three man?
1:30:31
Speaker 2: I owe what is it? Twenty five cents of fine?
1:30:35
Speaker 2: I'll buy the first round of ginger Rales next time
1:30:36
Speaker 2: we go out. How about that?
1:30:38
Speaker 3: Take that?
1:30:39
Speaker 2: That's that's that's three drinks. I got you, guys. The
1:30:42
Speaker 2: Branford Bulldogs take on the Sudbury Wolves. Sudbury Wolves finishing
1:30:45
Speaker 2: with a twenty seven thirty nine to two and oh
1:30:48
Speaker 2: record for a total of fifty six points. The Branford
1:30:51
Speaker 2: Bulldogs forty eight ten eight and two just one regulation
1:30:56
Speaker 2: win or overtime or shootout loss away from being the
1:31:00
Speaker 2: first team to have single digit regulation losses since the
1:31:05
Speaker 2: best team in HL history, the twenty four two thousand
1:31:08
Speaker 2: and five London Nights. So obviously we saw the lineup
1:31:12
Speaker 2: they played on on Sunday in Brampton. It was nowhere
1:31:15
Speaker 2: near a playoff roster. No, but uh, some of those
1:31:22
Speaker 2: names out of the lineup. Yeah, that is not the
1:31:25
Speaker 2: lineup you're gonna see on Friday night. But uh, the
1:31:27
Speaker 2: one versus eight matchup in this one similar to what
1:31:32
Speaker 2: you see with kitchen Er saganaw Colling. Do you think
1:31:34
Speaker 2: it'll be shorter? Do you think it could be longer?
1:31:36
Speaker 2: What do you think?
1:31:38
Speaker 3: I I honestly think if Sudbury takes penalties Branford and four,
1:31:44
Speaker 3: it's not even close. You can't give this Bulldogs team
1:31:46
Speaker 3: a power play, power play after power player, you're gonna lose.
1:31:49
Speaker 2: So is there a number per game, like if Sudbury
1:31:52
Speaker 2: takes three.
1:31:54
Speaker 3: Well, you look at the game in this week if
1:31:56
Speaker 3: you take three power plays, there's a free goal you're
1:32:00
Speaker 3: giving the Bulldogs. If you give him three power play,
1:32:02
Speaker 3: they're for sure gonna go one for three. They never
1:32:04
Speaker 3: go for.
1:32:04
Speaker 2: Three, which that that's what they were in the regular season.
1:32:07
Speaker 2: So yeah, makes sense. I think so.
1:32:10
Speaker 3: I think you can't get penalty, you can't give freebies.
1:32:14
Speaker 3: You can't give freebies, so you can't get frustrated. I
1:32:19
Speaker 3: think that's gonna be tough in this series. I'm gonna
1:32:21
Speaker 3: say Branford in four or five, Jellachanko being backs huge. Uh,
1:32:28
Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting. I expect to see this Bulldog
1:32:30
Speaker 3: team to really let it all out here. But it talks.
1:32:35
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like there's been a lot of hiding
1:32:37
Speaker 3: this year for their ten losses in regulation. They've hit
1:32:40
Speaker 3: a lot system wise this year, and I expect them.
1:32:43
Speaker 3: I expect them to show a little bit here in
1:32:45
Speaker 3: this first round with the Sudbury Wolves, and I think that
1:32:47
Speaker 3: you look at the Kerns matchup. They signed Kerns in Sudbury.
1:32:50
Speaker 3: He's a little tougher guy. He's a big tough guy
1:32:53
Speaker 3: in the back end. College commit, He's played thirteen games
1:32:56
Speaker 3: regular season m HM that's fine and dandy. If it's
1:32:59
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough, physical series, you know, look for it.
1:33:03
Speaker 3: But you gotta remember Branford as Ryder Bolton that cancels out.
1:33:07
Speaker 3: I think that that gets rid of any worry about
1:33:09
Speaker 3: anything exactly to your stars, like it happened, exactly exactly.
1:33:14
Speaker 3: That's why I think that the Bulldogs in all aspects
1:33:17
Speaker 3: of the better team four or five games, Branford, Brandon.
1:33:20
Speaker 2: What are the fans saying?
1:33:22
Speaker 1: Do you really want to know?
1:33:25
Speaker 2: Yeah?
1:33:25
Speaker 1: Why Why wouldn't I want to know?
1:33:31
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say people voted for Sudbury.
1:33:34
Speaker 1: Well percent of people did.
1:33:36
Speaker 2: That's unfortunate.
1:33:40
Speaker 1: Probably no three of them on the opposing broadcast.
1:33:44
Speaker 3: That'll be fun.
1:33:45
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I'm not gonna say anything. I'll get
1:33:48
Speaker 2: in trouble. H. The two seven matchup in the Eastern
1:33:51
Speaker 2: Conference is a rematch of last year the Barry Colts
1:33:55
Speaker 2: against the Niagara Movie I mean Ice Dogs. Barry Colts
1:34:00
Speaker 2: and is forty five, fourteen to five and four on
1:34:02
Speaker 2: the season for a total of ninety nine points. The
1:34:04
Speaker 2: Ice Dogs at thirty two, thirty four and two for
1:34:07
Speaker 2: a total of seventy points. These two teams did meet
1:34:10
Speaker 2: on the weekend. It was a fairly regular Barry Colts lineup,
1:34:16
Speaker 2: I would say, compared to an Ice Dog's team that
1:34:19
Speaker 2: was not looking normal. Now, we are not one hundred
1:34:25
Speaker 2: percent sure on the status of Ryan Robert for this
1:34:27
Speaker 2: one unless you have an update for us, Brandon, I
1:34:30
Speaker 2: do not. Okay, so again, he hadn't he hasn't played
1:34:33
Speaker 2: in a month? About that something like that, Yeah, a
1:34:38
Speaker 2: little bit more. Uh, Kayshawn Ahison, we expect a two
1:34:41
Speaker 2: game suspension to be announced for him exceeding the fighting limit,
1:34:45
Speaker 2: so expect him out for games one and two. Does
1:34:48
Speaker 2: this series go any differently than it did last year? Colin, No,
1:34:52
Speaker 2: it does not. Like do you think I think it's longer?
1:34:55
Speaker 2: Think it's the same year.
1:34:56
Speaker 3: Malanka look pretty good on Saturday Night. I really thought
1:35:00
Speaker 3: that was a very dumb incident at a kash On Ahison.
1:35:04
Speaker 3: I did not like that at all. Edicash On, just
1:35:07
Speaker 3: because you're better than that, know this, know the situation.
1:35:11
Speaker 3: I know BC. You sent us a couple of messages
1:35:13
Speaker 3: on the play and like it's a dull It's it's
1:35:16
Speaker 3: just not smart. It's not an educated decision in a
1:35:19
Speaker 3: time where you got to make an education educated decision.
1:35:23
Speaker 3: With the playoffs on the line, you cannot afford to
1:35:25
Speaker 3: do that.
1:35:25
Speaker 2: Well. That they also couldn't move up or down they
1:35:28
Speaker 2: were locked into they had already lost the conference playing
1:35:31
Speaker 2: vision true. Yeah, good point. I wondered that also, why are.
1:35:35
Speaker 3: They playing like? You know who they're playing? So the
1:35:38
Speaker 3: Berry Cults, to me, showed the nag or Ice Dogs
1:35:41
Speaker 3: a little bit more system stuff. I don't think Barry's
1:35:43
Speaker 3: hid much throughout the year. When you watch them against
1:35:47
Speaker 3: the twentieth ranked team or the first ranked team, they
1:35:49
Speaker 3: looked the exact same system wise, So I don't think
1:35:51
Speaker 3: they really hit it hid much. But I think that
1:35:55
Speaker 3: Perry Cult will win in five. I think the Ice
1:35:57
Speaker 3: Dogs will win one, and I think it'll be one
1:35:59
Speaker 3: of the first two in Barry. Somehow they're gonna steal
1:36:02
Speaker 3: one in Barry lose.
1:36:03
Speaker 2: At home, all right, Brandon, what are the fans saying?
1:36:09
Speaker 1: Ninety for the Barry Colts checks out?
1:36:14
Speaker 2: Uh? Now? The three verse six matchup in the Eastern Conference,
1:36:17
Speaker 2: the Ottawa sixty sevens and the Kingston front Nacts. First
1:36:21
Speaker 2: time in a while, these two teams will hook up
1:36:22
Speaker 2: in the postseason, which geographically yeah, they're thrilled, no kidding, uh,
1:36:28
Speaker 2: Ottawa forty seven, fifteen, three and three for a total
1:36:31
Speaker 2: of one hundred points. Kingston front n Acts thirty three,
1:36:34
Speaker 2: thirty three and two for a total of seventy one calling.
1:36:38
Speaker 2: You're a big fan of Troy manns system, the way
1:36:40
Speaker 2: they play. We went on at lengths chatting about Ottawa's
1:36:44
Speaker 2: goaltending earlier on in this in the show, who do
1:36:48
Speaker 2: you like? How long do you think it'll be?
1:36:51
Speaker 3: And I'm intrigued to see how Kingston approaches this series
1:36:56
Speaker 3: because no, no doubt if Ottawa, if Ottawa plays their game,
1:37:00
Speaker 3: they'll win quick. But Kitchener or Kingston, sorry, wow, there
1:37:05
Speaker 3: we go. Kingston. We've we've saw so many different approaches
1:37:10
Speaker 3: to them this year. We saw them be lights out
1:37:12
Speaker 3: one night, then we've saw them be really bad some games.
1:37:17
Speaker 3: If the Kingston front Nacks can can stick to the system,
1:37:21
Speaker 3: can uh play that Troy man hockey? I think this
1:37:24
Speaker 3: goes six, I really do. I also believe that the
1:37:27
Speaker 3: Ottawa sixty sevens may have I truly believe in this
1:37:32
Speaker 3: series we see both goalies play in the series. For
1:37:37
Speaker 3: the Ottawa sixty sevens, I truly believe both series.
1:37:40
Speaker 2: Both I could see honestly, even Kingston.
1:37:42
Speaker 3: Even Kingston bets and Minchak like even both teams, I
1:37:47
Speaker 3: can see both. I could see all four goalies getting
1:37:49
Speaker 3: into this series. In this one, I think Ottawa goes
1:37:52
Speaker 3: up early and I think Kingston wins one on the road,
1:37:55
Speaker 3: one at home, losing six games at home.
1:37:59
Speaker 2: Brandon, what are the face and saying Ottawa sixty percent?
1:38:06
Speaker 2: Now the four to five matchup in the Eastern Conference.
1:38:08
Speaker 2: To wrap things up, it is the Peterborough Pete's getting
1:38:10
Speaker 2: home icee advantage on the North Bay Battalion. Pete went
1:38:14
Speaker 2: forty twenty four to one and three for a total
1:38:16
Speaker 2: of eighty four points in North Bay Battalion thirty eight
1:38:19
Speaker 2: twenty six, three and one. This is my other series.
1:38:22
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna go seven games. I think North
1:38:25
Speaker 2: Bay is gonna win this series. I think it'll be
1:38:28
Speaker 2: that'll be night That'll be nightmare travel for Branford. By
1:38:31
Speaker 2: the way, starting off with Sudbury and then you get
1:38:33
Speaker 2: North Bay next, that's a tough travel first two rounds.
1:38:38
Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, I'm going with North Bay in this one.
1:38:41
Speaker 2: In seven games. I think it's gonna be a really
1:38:44
Speaker 2: entertaining series. I think Mike McIver coming back and you know,
1:38:49
Speaker 2: getting getting some reps in before the end of the
1:38:51
Speaker 2: regular season is huge to get those games in. Now.
1:38:56
Speaker 2: Was North Bay batt while he was out, No, they
1:38:59
Speaker 2: they they played really well actually and put them into
1:39:02
Speaker 2: put themselves in a position to be in contention for
1:39:05
Speaker 2: home ice in the last week of the regular season.
1:39:08
Speaker 2: But I think that just adds something. But you know,
1:39:11
Speaker 2: Eastern Rye, let's let's see. Sure the regular season was
1:39:14
Speaker 2: a nice, uh nice way to to to play and
1:39:18
Speaker 2: how well he did and and setting the record, but
1:39:21
Speaker 2: now it's time to really show up in the playoffs.
1:39:23
Speaker 2: So I think that'll be that'll be an interesting matchup
1:39:25
Speaker 2: and goal But but what do you have for this one?
1:39:27
Speaker 3: Colin No, I agree as a goaltender, I love I
1:39:31
Speaker 3: love this series for goalies Mackaiver versus Rye. That's unbelievable
1:39:36
Speaker 3: for the that's unbelievable for goalies in the OHL. And
1:39:39
Speaker 3: I truly think that the North Bay Battalion win this series.
1:39:41
Speaker 3: I think that the Peterborough Peats and I think I
1:39:45
Speaker 3: like the discipline from the staff in the team of
1:39:49
Speaker 3: North Bay. Ryan Olahan and staff do a great job there,
1:39:54
Speaker 3: and I think that the Peats you see two different
1:39:57
Speaker 3: teams too many times. You see a high flying, highly
1:40:00
Speaker 3: old team one night where they look really good, but
1:40:02
Speaker 3: then you see another night where it's like a UFC
1:40:05
Speaker 3: fight and it's like, what are we doing here? So
1:40:08
Speaker 3: the ice it's an ice rink with square corners, not
1:40:10
Speaker 3: an octagon.
1:40:11
Speaker 2: Well, and one thing I'll I'll point out to your
1:40:15
Speaker 2: point as well. Peterborough better on the power play twenty
1:40:19
Speaker 2: two point nine compared to twenty one point five, better
1:40:22
Speaker 2: on the penalty kill eighty point nine compared to seventy
1:40:24
Speaker 2: five percent. However, seven hundred and thirty four penalty minutes
1:40:28
Speaker 2: for the battalion, eight hundred and sixty five for the Petz.
1:40:32
Speaker 2: That's the thing that will that will play a huge
1:40:35
Speaker 2: role in this series, big time.
1:40:37
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, and that's what I look at. If it
1:40:40
Speaker 3: depends what Pet's team, that's why I have it going
1:40:42
Speaker 3: seven to where it can go anyway possible, and they'll
1:40:44
Speaker 3: give credit to the Pietz. It's gonna be a series.
1:40:46
Speaker 3: And honestly, when we say seven games, it can go
1:40:48
Speaker 3: either way at that rate. And I think that the
1:40:51
Speaker 3: I agree, I think North Pay Battalion win in seven.
1:40:55
Speaker 3: I think mcivery is going to be exceptional after what
1:40:57
Speaker 3: we saw last postseason. I think you RAI is going
1:41:00
Speaker 3: to be exceptional. I think these are going to be
1:41:02
Speaker 3: low scoring games, physical games, and I think this is
1:41:06
Speaker 3: gonna be a fun one. I think it's gonna be
1:41:07
Speaker 3: Western Conference hockey in the East. I cannot wait. I
1:41:10
Speaker 3: cannot wait. Get your tickets. I mean Thursday, Friday, Sunday,
1:41:14
Speaker 3: the first three games. That's pretty good. That's a I
1:41:17
Speaker 3: mean three games over with right away. Like, I think
1:41:20
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a blast. Get your tickets because these
1:41:22
Speaker 3: are going to be a heck of a hockey games.
1:41:25
Speaker 2: Yeah. North Bay also scoring more goals than Peterborough to
1:41:28
Speaker 2: thirty seven, not a lot, two thirty seven to two
1:41:31
Speaker 2: thirty five. Also giving up less two hundred and fifteen
1:41:34
Speaker 2: goals against for North Bay two hundred and thirty one
1:41:37
Speaker 2: for for Peterborough. So we'll see, it'll be really fun.
1:41:41
Speaker 2: I'm really excited for this one, Brandon, are the what
1:41:43
Speaker 2: are the fans saying for this matchup? I feel like
1:41:45
Speaker 2: this is gonna be our closest one.
1:41:47
Speaker 1: It's really close right now. North Bay fifty four, Peterborough
1:41:51
Speaker 1: forty six, I will see. Don't count out Jack Listen either, guys,
1:41:55
Speaker 1: he's played forty games this year.
1:41:56
Speaker 3: H No, I agree, I think he'll get in. I
1:41:58
Speaker 3: think Listen will get in. Listen a big part of
1:42:00
Speaker 3: the reason why they were in where they are in
1:42:02
Speaker 3: the standards. I mean, he stepped up when MacIvor went down.
1:42:05
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, no, I'm really looking forward to that. So again,
1:42:09
Speaker 2: there's your matchups for round number one in the OHL Playoffs.
1:42:14
Speaker 2: There is a bracket contest going on, so visit the
1:42:16
Speaker 2: OHL website for more information on that. And for us again,
1:42:21
Speaker 2: we're on our playoff schedule, so we will be releasing
1:42:25
Speaker 2: our next show once round one is over. We'll do
1:42:27
Speaker 2: a full recap of the first round of the playoffs
1:42:29
Speaker 2: and look ahead to the conference semifinal matchups. So until then,
1:42:36
Speaker 2: well it's finally here and enjoy it everyone. This is
1:42:40
Speaker 2: the result of a full sixty eight game grind for
1:42:43
Speaker 2: sixteen clubs and only one is headed out West for
1:42:47
Speaker 2: the Memorial Cups, so it should be a fun ride
1:42:49
Speaker 2: as it always is year by year for anyone watching
1:42:52
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