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Week 17 News & Updates + Would You Rather | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  About Bow Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey podcast.
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  Woo woo woo. I love this space reacting to
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  your woods. Who's surprised now, huh?
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  Josh was even supposed to after me and he was still surprised.
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  I was, I loved the, I love the energy.
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  It was as if he was saying #2 again.
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  To man, that just hits. It really does.
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  OK, welcome in one and all to Bangor Management, the Fantasy
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  Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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  This is the first. OK, I just wanna get slightly
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  off topic for a second. Although we've even laid out the
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  topics. What are the topics?
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  Today do you have did you guys both watch football on Sunday?
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  Yes. I don't know, I just.
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  Do This is a loyal hockey hockey fan. 100% Hockey.
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  Do you have anyone is loyal to Jojo's, loyal to 1 Hockey League
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  and one hockey podcast and that's it?
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  You will not find them anywhere else doing anything else. 100%
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  I'm I'm like locked in. OHS.
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  Fair and and do. Your question, Jakey?
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  Yes, I, I think the Seahawks are taking it.
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  I yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, I'm a I'm a big
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  football guy, too. Oh wait, do we know who's in the
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  Super Bowl at this point? Yes, we do.
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  Crazy. That's what you know, you've
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  been spending time on the on the Discord and just just watching
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  hockey and and being totally optimistic about your season
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  outlook, right? Yeah.
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  That was like the worst yeah, I've ever heard in my life.
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  Was like, yeah. It's fine.
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  We'll find a way. We'll find a way.
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  Yeah, you think Seahawks? I think Seahawks.
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  I think after they beat the Rams, like anything, anything
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  is. Possible, I mean they just have
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  such a good offence and it's funny that Sam Darnold is the
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  one leading after everything that happened to him.
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  So I'm rooting for them Anyways. I do not want to see the
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  Patriots win as a Giants fan. Like it's how are they already
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  back here? So I don't want to discredit
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  them that they feel like they've had a quote UN quote easier road
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  to the final, let's say. But that defence is good.
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  And I think if the game wasn't in the snow, maybe it would have
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  been a different game. We'll see.
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  But yeah. I like the Darnell comeback
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  story. Yeah, I love the Darnell come
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  back. Is there like a hockey
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  equivalent till the Darnold comeback story?
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  I. I feel like basically the
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  basically Josh, this guy was drafted first overall.
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  No, not first overall. No.
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  Anyway, first round he was like. Using the top five pick.
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  Yeah, he couldn't succeed on the first team, and then he had such
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  a bad reputation, went to a few different teams and went to one
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  team, did really well. Then they still traded him and
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  now he's in the Super Bowl. So it's like a real kind of like
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  underdog story. He got drafted to one of the
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  worst franchises ever, the New York Jets, and then he didn't.
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  He didn't succeed there, so they like, ruined his career.
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  Yeah, they also just suck. I think everybody can agree on
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  that. One of the worst franchises.
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  Are they gonna get a lot of love or a lot of hate for that?
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  He gets run out of town. He ends up getting like 3 backup
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  gigs where he's just like the backup quarterback.
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  He comes in here and there like shows flashes and then he get he
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  does like really well, as you know, the first opportunity gets
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  to play a lot of games that he gets a good contract is starting
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  quarterback for the Seahawks is kind of a redemption arc where
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  like, you know, top prospect sucks, you know, goes to the
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  backup will become the starter again and as well.
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  So it's like everybody's rooting for him, and I hope he wins so.
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  This is like La Freniere getting traded and then like be like
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  winning the heart and then the Stanley Cup.
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  That's kind of the way I see. It another hard, but maybe the
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  Stanley Cup. Yeah, but even like with like
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  New York, you know what I mean? It's The New Yorker at all.
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  There's a lot of commonalities. Alright, Anyway.
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  Just gotta be somebody that actually makes that, you know?
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  I feel like a laugh is a decent. Example.
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  I feel like it's more like like when a goalie play so bad or
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  whatever, they become the backup and then they like somehow work.
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  Like if somehow like Connor Ingram, you know, became like
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  got the Oilers to the Cup or something, you know, like that
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  could be like a similar. Vote Stuart Skinner.
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  Or Stuart Skinner gets the Penguins like up Yeah.
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  Goat man on. Fire I went into the TikTok
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  comments and really went back and gave somebody told you so as
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  to some people and. We've decided what the title of
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  this episode is like. What are we doing here?
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  Anyway, week 17 news updates and the famous would you rathers
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  podcasts. We are there rate 5 stars if you
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  to join the discord community, especially after our very fancy
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  football takes. I want to know what you guys
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  think. Serious.
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  If you're watching this on YouTube, leave a comment on who
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  you think is gonna win the Super Bowl, the New England Patriots
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  or the Seahawks. Hopefully we have a lot of
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  Seahawks people that like people that are rooting for the
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  Seahawks in the discord. That'll be fun.
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  Yeah, yeah. I don't even know who I'm
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  rooting for. I just found out that that it
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  was happening. So do you wanna say I'm just
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  like? It's our Patriots fans and
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  that's it. Everybody else roots against
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  them always. Got it.
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  Honestly, for me, I'm just excited.
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  This is my first Super Bowl in the US I'm gonna get the US
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  commercials. I'm gonna get, you know, I'm
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  gonna do all the food and stuff. I'm not sure yet if I'm going
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  somewhere from doing something at my place, but I'm pretty
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  psyched. Never had food in Canada before.
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  Yeah, I see how it. Is no, no, never.
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  We don't get that before the. Super Bowl.
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  I'm mostly excited for the commercials every year I've
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  tried to like. A chicken wing.
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  Yeah, but if it's an American chicken wing, it's gonna be like
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  this big Yeah. Awesome pictures.
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  OK, let's dive into the news stories this week.
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  Let's do it alright Leon Dry Seidel returned from his very
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  short leave of absence and bumped Wallman off.
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  Power play one. Everyone was like woman power
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  play one. We have to pick him up and it
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  was like we talked about this a few days later he's going to
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  come back and this is going to happen.
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  So a very exciting for us Dry Sital owners.
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  We rejoice. Came back, put up 3 assistants
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  last game. So it's a good time to good time
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  to have him back. Hope everything is well with the
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  fam. Let's go to the next one because
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  not much to say there. Dylan Holloway's day-to-day.
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  Seems he returned too early from his injury.
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  Jakey rejoices. He did keep saying there's no
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  way this was six weeks. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't, it was
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  like 4 weeks it. Was way early, not 6.
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  Yeah, yeah. No, he came back early there as
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  of the latest coaches comments, hallways, day-to-day, he had an
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  MRI, apparently everything came back fine.
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  So I think it's more just like guess he wasn't comfortable.
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  So I expect him back before Olympic break.
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  So sometime in the next week and a half and we'll see if you can
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  get back to his Holloways. That was that was so nice.
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  I do also just want to say that I feel like the Olympic break is
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  kind of like a like the Christmas break is type thing
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  where if somebody is going to be heard going into it, they may
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  just be like, alright, let's just hold you out until after
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  and give you the extra rest type of thing.
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  So he maybe timeline wise he could be back before, but like
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  what's worth, is it worth it for them to come play once before
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  the Olympic break and then just have the break?
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  Yeah, sure. Honestly, like as I was going to
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  someone who has a lot of entries on my team, I'm just like trying
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  to like all to the Olympic break and just hope I could come back
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  healthy, you know? Yeah.
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  Yeah, it'll it'll actually be good for that if you're in that
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  situation. And the one good thing I'll say
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  air quotes about this that he is now not playing is that the
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  original timeline was six weeks. It's not as if he came back And
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  it seems like it's a setback is probably like they tried it
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  didn't work. I mean, it's OK.
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  You think so? I mean, he he got cleared to
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  play hockey and was on the ice. Like teams are not gonna joke
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  around with that and put him out there like, oh, let's just see
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  how it goes type of thing. I think he was actually cleared
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  and like wanted to play and then it just like, yeah, got worse
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  again, so. But there's no indication that
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  it was like that back making it worse by playing is what I'm
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  saying. It's like, oh, the original six
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  week timeline, he came back early and now he's out an extra
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  six weeks. I don't think it's like that.
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  I think it's like the original timeline.
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  Or maybe he'll just be come back after the Olympic break instead.
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  I mean, I don't wanna, I don't wanna put too much time on this,
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  but if it doesn't make any sense because just like, I mean,
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  imagine it's six weeks, you're saying six weeks timeline and
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  then four weeks it comes back and they put him on the ice.
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  And actually, no, it's just waited over 2 weeks for the
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  timeline. Like one of the brought him back
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  and they thought he was healthy. So, OK, so you think that he may
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  have? More.
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  You think you may have like gotten worse by playing you're.
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  Saying yeah, whether that just holds them out for two extra
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  weeks in the initial timeline, that's fine, but I think they're
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  not gonna bring them back unless they thought he was like 100%.
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  I mean, I will say also one thing that the that the coach
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  said is like, he made a comment how Holloway just like hates
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  missing games and just wanting to be back, you know.
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  So there's a chance that like, I mean, I'm sure he definitely got
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  cleared, obviously, but there's a chance, you know, a lot of
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  times it's like, how do you feel?
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  You know the doctor can't can't know how you're feeling.
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  On everything or. Whatever.
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  That's it. Yeah.
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  He's like, I just want to get back on the ice, you know, and
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  maybe like, you should have taken a bit more time.
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  So. So we'll see.
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  But I definitely expect him back after the Olympic break if they
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  decide to keep him out that long.
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  So not out for too many more actual games, even if it's a lot
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  of time. Let's move on to next on Mason
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  Marchment returned from injury, return to line one, power play
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  one. And last I checked, Marchenko
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  was the odd man out on power play one last game.
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  I checked the ice time and it kind of correlates what I'm
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  seeing on daily face off. Like Marchenko actually was not
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  on power play one last game. Look, there's zero chance that
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  lasts. So that means the unit was
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  Werenski, Marchment, Coil, Johnson and and Fantilli.
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  Yeah, just that's insane. I mean, look, it's a new coach.
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  They're just trying to throw stuff at the wall like this.
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  This is not going to last. I wouldn't expect that.
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  I would expect Marching to stay on it, though.
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  I expect Coiler Johnson to be the odd man out.
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  I think Johnson gets bumped and I think coil, yeah, bought coils
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  been really hot. And then we saw, we saw Johnson
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  already, like he's not news topic in himself, but we saw his
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  ice time go back down as well. Like he was playing, you know,
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  we mentioned how the coach was hyping him up and giving him 20
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  minutes and then we saw a couple games of like 13 minutes, 12
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  minutes. Yeah, absolutely.
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  So we'll see. It'll be one of them too for
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  sure. Yeah, I can't imagine that
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  Marchenko is not the. He's their best player.
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  Yeah, but Marshman definitely has a chance.
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  Taking the power play aside, he had a monster.
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  Game against the wrinkles. One assist.
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  That's against Tampa. That's.
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  Real crazy it wasn't Vasilevsky, so slight asterisk, but like not
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  even, you know, like it's. Still incredible numbers, but
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  still we need to talk about Marchman because we've gotten so
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  many questions about him. Like, do I drop this guy from
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  Marshman? Like March is the best player on
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  waivers. Do I use my waiver claim?
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  Like where do you guys think rest of season could be his
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  value because he's slotting into that, You know, Dimitri,
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  Veronika role, who know he had shots, his combo, the power play
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  exposure, like the top line minutes and he was very solid
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  with it for a while. And then, you know, he's fallen
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  out of favor with the coach right now.
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  He's barely making the line up. It feels like even though last
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  game he played like 10 minutes, it had like a gold three shots,
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  five hits or something. And he still delivering
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  somewhat. But Marshman is in that role
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  right now. I don't see Marshman losing it.
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  I think he's holding it. They traded for him.
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  He thinks a good player. I really like him rest of
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  season. Like he's exposed to top guys on
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  this Columbus team. He's a good player himself.
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  Like what do you guys think? I mean, I think I think it's his
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  place to lose Line one, power play one.
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  It was wide open. You know, like, yeah, Bronco was
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  great there. I'm kind of surprised he got
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  bumped so easily. But it's also like it's wide
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  open. Look, the fact that even
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  Marchenko is not power play one right now, which again, we said
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  is not going to last, like anyone could be anywhere.
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  That works both ways. It works in his favor.
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  And the fact that he got there, it also means he could get
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  bumped off at any moment. So that always kind of like, you
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  know, worries me, but I like him rest of the season.
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  Another thing with Columbus in general is that over the next 5
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  weeks, I think the next 5 weeks straight, they have a four-game.
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  So that's a pretty sick rest of season holds just for schedule
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  wise. So yeah, no, I like Marchman a
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  lot. I know I've seen you be super
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  hype on him, Kevin in the Discord and stuff, and so far I
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  don't think I've seen you choose any him over anyone that I
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  disagree with. Still, like I view him as a guy.
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  He's not he's not a waiver guy. He's like the a guy should
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  definitely pick up. But like I don't think he's like
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  better than like a lot of like staples on your team, you know,
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  not trying to get overhyped based on like a four point game
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  and like you know him like being solid start on the new team.
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  But I still think it's worth holding rest of season for sure.
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  I wanna, I'm kind of trying to bucket him in terms of like, who
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  do I think that has been rostered the whole season, that
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  March wind is now better than. My first name, my pops on my
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  team. I probably take Marshmallow
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  Patrick Kane at this point. Yeah, I'm 100% of the
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  deployment, too. Like Patrick Kennedy just
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  doesn't seem like he's getting it back in the immediate future.
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  Like something would have to happen for things.
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  To chat about Tibet. Marksman for sure for me.
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  Ah, that's tough, I mean. I think the points are just
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  gonna make up for any back category differences there.
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  I'm probably taking tippet just like I'm picturing.
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  I'm just like thinking about it If he offered me marchment for
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  tip, but I don't think I would accept.
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  But I think it's close. I mean, look, I haven't looked
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  at Marchman's game log 2 too tightly, so I'm not sure what
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  his shots hits look like. But I know that tickets have
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  been really good. He's like kind of a double
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  double and he's randomly has been getting shorties once in
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  awhile. Tippett also put up A314 game in
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  the past week. So and I like I said, I just any
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  team where they take their best player off the top unit just
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  makes me think that no one safe in terms of their deployment
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  there. I think not that type
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  deployments great either, but yeah.
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  If Marshman does this dot line, would you take him over Tippit?
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  One hit 2.5 shots point 8.8 points .25 PowerPoints.
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  Um, I see Tippet as more like, let's see like .7 .15.
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  So he's losing like one point, 1.1 power play points and then
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  tip. It's probably similar shots with
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  like one more hit. So it's close.
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  I just, I don't think I'm confident enough in marchment to
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  say he's going to be a point 8.25 for us this season.
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  And also the shots. I don't know if he shoots, if
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  he's that kind of shooter. He's been shooting like he's had
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  a lot of games with like 3-4 shots recently.
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  So 2.5 is where I feel like he will end because like in the
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  past it's been like a two point shoot two shots, a game shooter
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  type of thing. Yeah.
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  But I also think like Philly, like you have the whole
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  situation there with talking where you ambiguity of where
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  this guy should fall in the line up to that plays into it either.
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  I think it's definitely worth having a conversation with
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  Marchman. But I like him a lot.
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  And I think, yeah, like the best guy in your waivers, like I try
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  to squeeze him into the lineup like.
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  I guess like. What about like soccer?
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  Like a McCann like. I'm taking him over sucker for
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  sure. I'm taking McCann over him.
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  Though, Me too. Same answer.
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  Yeah, I guess. Yeah, it's it's it's worth
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  talking about though, because he's kind of like that bridge.
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  One more Zuccarello. I'm taking Zuke.
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  I think the reliability of the points there is enough to to
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  serve. That's it.
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  I like, I like Marchman, but there's still like a lot of guys
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  I like over him. Yeah.
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  Yeah, OK, let's go. To the OK, Mikko Rantanen
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  returned from injury illness where he lost a bunch of weight
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  because he had a stomach bug or something, I'm not sure, some
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  sort of illness and he bumped that to shut off power play 1
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  and then he put up a kind of a stinker of a game.
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  I think it's going to take him a few games to get back into it.
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  If this is like, I think this is the closest to a buy low window
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  you're going to get from Eco Antonin.
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  So if you're trying to buy, now's your chance.
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  But it's not like he's been that bad, right?
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  He was just out. So it's, uh, something I'll keep
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  an eye on there. What do you How do you feel
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  about? That game he played 22 minutes.
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  I mean, even though it was definitely a stinker.
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  Literally just one shot. I mean, it's still, it's still
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  encouraging that he was able to do that.
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  But yeah, I look, I don't know if the manager is willing to
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  sell. You could kind of see that it's
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  a clear just bad game after being out for a bit.
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  But I don't know how low you can really aim for a guy like
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  granted, and you mentioned Panarin as the cell high, right?
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  Like that to me, I mean, it's tough to do that, but I feel
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  like that's kind of one of those things that it's like that's
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  what you'd have to give. You can't just give like a not
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  player, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Like when I said like buy low, I meant like the owners willing to
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  talk you. Know.
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  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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  I think we're I think we're seeing a lot of people have like
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  a negative sentiment that went into like, I mean, I've seen a
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  couple of people in discord be disappointed and kind of already
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  ship them off for for guys that I think are just lower quality,
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  like a call field or the brink kit.
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  Like I'd much rather have Renton, but what do you expect
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  for rent in the rest of season Pace?
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  Like I I feel like he's a point per game player maybe slightly
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  above like 1-1 to 1.1 but the days of him being like a 1.3 are
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  not there in my opinion. I think he.
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  Likes still there. I'm 1.1 to 1.2 and I think the
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  power play points are going to be really nice.
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  I think that Dallas is due for some big regression power play
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  points wise, easily. I think you can easily be like a
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  point 4.45 like power play points.
• 17:40
  Maybe not easily, but I think that Dallas has that level of
• 17:43
  power play and he's involved enough.
• 17:45
  He doesn't shoot much though, so that's always a caveat.
• 17:47
  And then I think he's randomly A Pimm's beast this year, so I
• 17:50
  expect that to continue. Yeah, I don't know.
• 17:53
  I mean, I think that he's I think that he's gonna be a 1.2
• 17:57
  rest of season. He's already he's at 1.29 on the
• 18:00
  season that that's with playing way less games because of all
• 18:03
  the way less meniscus of all the Pimms.
• 18:05
  Like right now he's on pace for 102 points.
• 18:07
  If he slows down a bit and he gets 95, OK, but I still think
• 18:12
  like I still think you're happy with the one and you could get a
• 18:15
  1.2. Yeah.
• 18:17
  I was going to say, though, like, I feel like that's taking
• 18:19
  into account like a lot of his early season production where
• 18:21
  Dallas was like pulling people out of the water for like a
• 18:24
  month and a half. And everybody was like, we saw
• 18:27
  Robertson be like top player in fantasy.
• 18:29
  Like a lot of those Dallas guys were like overvalued.
• 18:32
  I will say for a while, even though they're still amazing
• 18:35
  assets to own. Right.
• 18:37
  Yeah. I just think they're due for
• 18:38
  kind of like since they've been kind of so bad for for a bit
• 18:41
  that I think they're due for a big bounce back.
• 18:44
  So that kind of goes out to where they should be.
• 18:47
  All right, let's move on. Kiefer Sherwood is expected to
• 18:50
  return this week. Will be interesting to see where
• 18:53
  he lines up. I have not seen, I don't know if
• 18:55
  you guys have gotten any hints or clues of where he might end
• 18:58
  up. I haven't seen any lines with
• 18:59
  him involved in them, even though they're expecting to
• 19:02
  return as soon as tomorrow. So.
• 19:04
  So yeah, I don't know if you have you guys seen anything
• 19:06
  about where he might end up? At the time of recording, I
• 19:09
  haven't seen anything, but part of me thinks he's he's gonna be
• 19:13
  line 2. That's that's my, my initial gut
• 19:17
  instinct given like they just traded for him.
• 19:19
  They wanna obviously like get the most out of him.
• 19:21
  So I think you're gonna give him a chance to, especially because
• 19:24
  this, this top 6 is wide open, right?
• 19:26
  So yeah, I think they give him a chance.
• 19:29
  But about power play? I don't see Power play one off
• 19:32
  the bat. Would I be shocked if he gets an
• 19:34
  opportunity thereafter? Not at all.
• 19:35
  We've talked about that already. Yeah, so I see.
• 19:38
  I agree. I think Line 2 Power Play 2 is
• 19:40
  where he's going to start off. I think that's fair and I mean
• 19:46
  it's not that line 1 is out of the question in the very near
• 19:50
  future at all though Colin Graph is not a stable there at all.
• 19:53
  Neither is Will Smith necessarily if they think that
• 19:56
  he can help carry line too, right?
• 19:59
  Like they want to actually make a push and that's why they made
• 20:01
  this trade. Nevertheless, I think wherever
• 20:05
  he goes, like he's going to be a monster, even if it takes a game
• 20:08
  or two for him to adjust. Yeah, and we saw other guys that
• 20:11
  had this top 6 like Turner shop are are now scratched and sent
• 20:14
  to the minor. So that's like an empty spot
• 20:16
  that he can just like, yeah. And then.
• 20:18
  Right in yeah, and I mean, I will say 1 Marchman originally
• 20:23
  got traded to Columbus. We kind of I mean, I at least,
• 20:26
  you know, I didn't think he was going straight to line one power
• 20:28
  play one. But like in hindsight, you know,
• 20:31
  when someone trades for a guy, like someone who's trying to
• 20:33
  compete, trades for a player and is one of those wide open, you
• 20:37
  know, top sixes wide open power play ones, like it makes sense
• 20:40
  that they're going to place them in a place to succeed.
• 20:42
  They want to show why they acquired that player show like
• 20:45
  what they can do. So I think there's a chance that
• 20:48
  Isherwood can get power play 1 and then toxic.
• 20:50
  Toxic to me is pretty much certain.
• 20:51
  And then power play 1. I think there's a shot they try
• 20:54
  out there. I mean, I've been messing around
• 20:55
  with power play units. I know there was a one point
• 20:57
  they had celebrity on power play 2.
• 20:59
  You know, like it's the same thing as Marchment as Marchenko
• 21:02
  being applied to like it just seems like one of those teams
• 21:03
  where the coach is willing to just throw anything at the wall.
• 21:06
  So you get a new player and Surewood who's, you know, been
• 21:09
  good and clearly they wanted him.
• 21:10
  Like there's a chance he's on there.
• 21:12
  Yep, I'm honestly really excited to see what he can do on the
• 21:15
  ice. Yeah, clear some room for
• 21:17
  celebration so you can finally show us what he's got.
• 21:21
  Scoring less goals and get more assists because Sherwood got
• 21:23
  that snipe on him too. Yeah, true.
• 21:26
  All right, let's keep going. Anthony Stolarz returned from
• 21:30
  injury and should be the one beta Joseph Woll.
• 21:32
  And yeah, I think that I still don't see it as a full one, too,
• 21:36
  I don't think. I think it's 1A1V, and I do
• 21:39
  think Stolarz is a tough, tough road ahead.
• 21:41
  If he wants to try and regain that one a spot, I think it
• 21:44
  would take a stretch of really good play from him and really
• 21:46
  poor play from wool. It's possible, but with how the
• 21:49
  Leafs are, I don't really see it happening.
• 21:50
  So I see them as the one V rest of the season.
• 21:53
  I feel like one bees also, I don't want to say generous, but
• 21:57
  we saw in the past this tandem like they split pretty 5050 or
• 22:01
  like rode the hot hand a lot. I think right now it's like
• 22:03
  wolves job and still ours is like more of a backup in the
• 22:07
  sense that he's been like he's been the backup before, but I
• 22:10
  think now it's like really he's backing up Joseph.
• 22:12
  Well, I think wall has been like tremendous for them.
• 22:15
  You know, he'll have his ups and downs too, but like Toronto
• 22:18
  coming back into this playoffs fight was on the back of Joseph
• 22:21
  wall. So.
• 22:22
  Can I tell you? Can I give you some names of a
• 22:24
  couple? One bees and you tell me if you
• 22:26
  prefer prefer still or some I love.
• 22:29
  All right. Would you rather stole ours or
• 22:31
  Alex and Delkevic? Solars.
• 22:34
  I think stores will honestly right now maybe in the Delkevic
• 22:37
  to be honest. The device I think is 179
• 22:41
  straight, some ridiculous amount straight, but he's still only
• 22:44
  getting 5050 starts. Yeah.
• 22:46
  So that's an interesting one. I think long term stores has the
• 22:50
  opportunity to play more games, but I think Nadal Kovich right
• 22:54
  now is in a 5050 split. I'd rather have him.
• 22:57
  And San Jose is, I think, a better team than Toronto this
• 23:00
  year, which? Is right now, yes.
• 23:03
  Another one I had is which you rather stole ours or Alex Lyon.
• 23:07
  Lion OK, I I just need to say this just because whatever I and
• 23:11
  I was debating because like, I know we kind of count and I
• 23:14
  especially both need goalie help, Josh too, but it's an
• 23:17
  injured situation with the lidar.
• 23:19
  Why is Lion on waivers in our league?
• 23:22
  Lion is so good. Yeah, I.
• 23:24
  Know he's been nuts masturbating.
• 23:26
  Those sounds to me. Like I just like have the best
• 23:28
  goalies in the world, most wide and taken the Lions actually a
• 23:31
  great goalie before his injury. Talk about like carrying a team
• 23:35
  on your back. He's really good.
• 23:39
  So I I would, I'd definitely pick him up for all the
• 23:44
  listeners like in a deep enough league.
• 23:47
  The thing is like, yeah, I mean, he's getting a 5050 split on
• 23:49
  Buffalo and it seems like it's not maybe it's not a 5050 split.
• 23:53
  And I think UPS is definitely the the first name on the team
• 23:57
  sheet, let's say. And then Line will be the second
• 23:59
  name. But they're both printing really
• 24:01
  well. And we know we've heard trade
• 24:03
  rumors in the past, too, but they both had a lot of success
• 24:07
  recently, right? Buffalo has been on that streak,
• 24:09
  so in our league, I'm not surprised because a lot of teams
• 24:12
  already have 3 goalies, some have 4 goalies, and there's just
• 24:17
  a lot of good goalies, quote UN quote like good goalies, better
• 24:20
  situations out there that you could be holding from.
• 24:22
  Like Jake, who would you drop anybody on team for?
• 24:25
  Lion? I don't think so.
• 24:26
  You're going way better. I almost did and then I.
• 24:29
  Went a different route, Skinner for Lion.
• 24:31
  No, not my goal is so it just arrived 3 goalies.
• 24:36
  But like, OK, certainly there are some players on my team,
• 24:39
  excluding Papi and Zetterlund, who I would That was a joke for
• 24:45
  all the. Listeners, but they like last
• 24:48
  note on stole ours. I got a question that discord
• 24:50
  that somebody was asking me like who should I keep on my roster?
• 24:53
  I have to cut one. I have stole ours Dostal and was
• 24:57
  Stolarz Melka and to me I was just like no doubt you keep
• 25:00
  Amalka and Nostale there. Like even though both have had
• 25:02
  ups and downs there's a main starters on their team.
• 25:05
  Like just Stolarz in the past has maybe had really good
• 25:09
  stretches but he's nowhere near those guys in my opinion.
• 25:13
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, just just one one last
• 25:17
  thing on this is like I I do think that it's a it's a weird
• 25:21
  situation with the leaves because they actually are back
• 25:23
  in it, like you said, Josh, yet Wall has lost four in a row
• 25:28
  playing very well. So they need to do what they
• 25:32
  need to do for the team to succeed.
• 25:34
  And I still kind of firmly believe Joseph Woll's better and
• 25:37
  gonna be the guy. But whatever's going to like
• 25:39
  change the psyche of the team is how they're going to approach
• 25:42
  it. It's not wolves been bad.
• 25:43
  I still way rather wool and I do think he will get the 1A, but I
• 25:47
  was like more convinced recently that he would actually be the
• 25:50
  undisputed one because of the turnaround story.
• 25:52
  And now they're losing again. So who?
• 25:55
  Knows, yeah, All right. Speaking of goalies leanness,
• 25:59
  Almark returned from his leave of absence and will be back to
• 26:02
  starting most games moving forward.
• 26:04
  Do you guys think that Ottawa is shopping for a goalie or are
• 26:07
  they just writing all Mark Russ this season?
• 26:09
  I mean, he hasn't. He hasn't played a game yet.
• 26:12
  He backed up as a Mads Sogaard, the plural of mad mad.
• 26:19
  Bad. Mr. Mads um, sick name, though
• 26:25
  not related to Matt's Mickelson in any way, but just putting
• 26:28
  that out there. G And I think they're just the
• 26:32
  right Omari don't think they can afford to to get another goalie
• 26:36
  when Almark is proven to be a good goalie in this league.
• 26:40
  He's obviously had his ups and downs, but I think Ottawa in
• 26:42
  front of him has hasn't always been great and led to, you know,
• 26:45
  some of those disappointing performances.
• 26:47
  I think auto needs a lot of help elsewhere, so goalie is
• 26:51
  definitely the biggest thing, but I think they're gonna see if
• 26:53
  Almark can like solve their problems now that he's back from
• 26:56
  his personal leave and and then we'll see.
• 27:00
  Would I be showing the trade for goalie after?
• 27:02
  I would not be shocked though. Where do you guys rank all mark
• 27:05
  among like clear starting goalies?
• 27:08
  This is a tough question. Would you rather Almark or
• 27:12
  Dostal? I think I'd rather Almark, I
• 27:15
  think. Justin insane lately.
• 27:17
  I know, but it was also like a drop for a month, Yeah.
• 27:20
  So it goes both ways. He was dog awful for a month.
• 27:24
  He was awful. We should make a straight girl.
• 27:29
  I wonder what that logo would look like.
• 27:33
  All Marker Joseph Woll. Joseph Wall, OK Almark or UC
• 27:40
  Sorrows. How much you believe in
• 27:44
  Nashville? How much do you believe in
• 27:46
  Ottawa? I think Ottawa has a run in
• 27:51
  them, to be honest. I'm going, I'm going all Mark,
• 27:53
  but that's. OK, OK.
• 27:55
  It could be an epic turn around story.
• 27:57
  Could be, but there's also the garbage.
• 28:00
  Yeah, yeah, I guess we'll see. But that's that's just
• 28:03
  interesting. I think it's an interesting
• 28:05
  spot. A lot of people are wondering
• 28:06
  how to how to value all Mark and if they should be, you know, if
• 28:09
  you should be like avoiding him, if you should be targeting in a
• 28:12
  trade. If it's like you have him, you
• 28:13
  hold him, If not, you avoid him. Yeah, I was thinking targeting
• 28:17
  him in a trade, but I wasn't sure if how I felt honestly.
• 28:20
  The ceilings tremendously high. Would you?
• 28:24
  Would you trade Grieves for him, Kevin?
• 28:26
  No. No, fair enough.
• 28:29
  I don't. Have a heartbeat.
• 28:30
  Though yeah I would. I don't know if I would trade
• 28:34
  pussy for him, like I wouldn't actually, but Skinner?
• 28:38
  I think that's close to. I think I would trade Skinner
• 28:41
  for him. Skinnier selling.
• 28:42
  High. So yeah, I think you can get
• 28:44
  that done probably. How about Skinner's got that
• 28:46
  amazing mustache? Yeah.
• 28:50
  Doesn't achieve it or else he loses all his powers, yeah.
• 28:52
  Exactly. Clouds of weight, I think, with
• 28:57
  that of the offseason. Yeah, we did.
• 29:01
  You were so high on Skinner being like he lost all his
• 29:03
  weight. He be so much faster.
• 29:05
  Yeah, and look, he's sick now. Yeah, he lost all that, that
• 29:08
  baggage of the Edmonton in Jersey.
• 29:10
  So, you know, now he's he's doing good.
• 29:12
  Alright, let's keep going. Joel Ericsson, Ek Jake returned
• 29:16
  from injury and bumped Ryan Hartman off power play 1.
• 29:19
  And Matt Boldy returned from injury and bumped flatter
• 29:21
  sinkoff power play 1. Two things that everyone could
• 29:24
  see from a mile away. This Minnesota power play 1 is
• 29:28
  nuts. Yeah, just there.
• 29:31
  That top five players, it's just crazy.
• 29:33
  I mean, the addition of Quinn Hughes shot Shocker, right?
• 29:36
  You have a power play with four amazing 4 words and no good
• 29:40
  defenseman to manage and you get the second best defenseman in
• 29:42
  the league and all of a sudden it's insane.
• 29:47
  I will say though, you you mentioned no Hartman bumped off,
• 29:50
  but I, I saw Hartman keep keep the slot and I saw the coach
• 29:54
  hype him up to and be like, I really love what we've got from
• 29:58
  Hartman playing on the top line. So I said Power play 1.
• 30:02
  Not not. I know, I know.
• 30:03
  But I lost. I checked.
• 30:04
  He was still on power play. One really over Ericsson had
• 30:07
  Eric snack on power play 2. I'm going off memory right now
• 30:10
  so maybe maybe it's misleading but I remember seeing that so
• 30:14
  somebody should Fact Check me but.
• 30:16
  I I see it as well. I I see it too.
• 30:20
  OK, that's crazy. This is what really sticks
• 30:23
  forever. I don't know, but I saw the
• 30:25
  coach actually type apartment and be like love what we've had
• 30:27
  from him like in this period where we needed him a lot.
• 30:30
  So he doesn't wanna like, you know.
• 30:31
  Toss him away. Yeah, I'm done playing with you.
• 30:34
  Exactly. I don't want to play with you.
• 30:36
  Anymore. Yeah, exactly.
• 30:39
  Uh, insert Woody meme here. But yeah, yeah, OK, that's kind
• 30:42
  of crazy. Are you are you worried as a
• 30:44
  Ericson Eco owner then? Yes, I'm slightly worried.
• 30:48
  Eric Sonic has a lot more value to him than just being on power
• 30:51
  play 1 though. So I do still like him as a
• 30:55
  player, especially in bangers league specifically, obviously.
• 30:57
  But yeah, I mean, I thought that Tarasenko would have more chance
• 31:03
  of keeping, you know, top 6 value ahead of Hartman when
• 31:07
  everybody came back from injuries.
• 31:08
  And then Tarasenko was just like, you know, to the side.
• 31:10
  And Hartman looks like he's keeping the job right now.
• 31:12
  So if you streamed Hartman, I would hold on for just a little
• 31:15
  longer. Yeah, I mean, hold on until he
• 31:17
  gets bumped off for sure. Do you do you drop him if he
• 31:21
  gets bumped off but keeps line one with capris?
• 31:23
  Evan Zuccarello. I mean, it depends what you need
• 31:27
  options, You probably have better options.
• 31:29
  I mean in our league I like that he like wins face offs from a
• 31:31
  winger position. He gets penalty minutes, he gets
• 31:34
  blocks. So like he contributes in like
• 31:36
  ways other than points. But if you're looking for points
• 31:39
  and he gets bumped off power, play one.
• 31:41
  I'm pretty happy to drop. OK.
• 31:45
  Evgeni Malkin is day-to-day with an injury.
• 31:48
  Anthony Mantha should take his spot on properly on if he's out.
• 31:50
  That's what we saw in the past when he was out for for 15
• 31:53
  games. It did seem like it was a
• 31:54
  shoulder injury, which is the entry that he had earlier this
• 31:57
  season that made him miss a lot of time.
• 31:58
  So I mean, we'll see what happens.
• 32:00
  He's been maintaining his really good pace.
• 32:03
  It's really just the injuries that have been derailing him.
• 32:05
  So I know we talked about him early in the season is like a
• 32:07
  huge cell high. And I mean, I still stand by it.
• 32:10
  Like I don't like to pat ourselves on the back for
• 32:12
  injuries because that, you know, it's kind of unpredictable.
• 32:15
  But when you have a guy like his age, maybe it's a bit more
• 32:17
  predictable. And I don't know, I don't know,
• 32:20
  you guys think about the whole Malkin thing like if he's
• 32:22
  someone you would want to buy low on if he's injured again or
• 32:25
  if you're just steering clear. I never want to buy Malkin and
• 32:29
  the only thing that I wanna reevaluate though is that we did
• 32:32
  tell him as like, you know, we've seen him before with
• 32:34
  Malcolm in the past season, like the guys almost 40 years old.
• 32:37
  We've seen him be like super hot and then go to straight zeros
• 32:39
  before, right, So you don't get caught holding the bag.
• 32:42
  But right, Week 17 of the season at this point, do we have to
• 32:46
  reevaluate how we feel about Malkin?
• 32:47
  Like is he just a whole for a guy that we can expect to get
• 32:50
  like, you know, .8 to one point per game?
• 32:52
  Like because he's over point game pace right now and we're
• 32:55
  saying like he saying he wants to play one more year with the
• 32:57
  Penguins. They don't want to actually pay
• 32:59
  him. He's like, look at this
• 33:00
  calendar, like we don't wanna pay you a discount.
• 33:01
  So I don't know what's happening there.
• 33:03
  Like just sign the guy. Yeah, but he's gonna take less
• 33:06
  than 6,000,000. Like, what are you gonna do?
• 33:07
  The guys playing over point game.
• 33:09
  He's almost 40 and he's playing with his whole career.
• 33:11
  Like, yeah, getting out crazy. But do we, do we revaluate?
• 33:14
  Like is he a whole like in my mind I'm like this guy's worst
• 33:18
  player on your team, Cut him open a streaming spot type of
• 33:20
  thing. I think he's old through this
• 33:24
  stretch, I think he's been really solid, but it's not a buy
• 33:28
  at the same time. Like I know it sounds
• 33:30
  counterintuitive but you're right.
• 33:31
  It's so streaky. It can be so streaky but I feel
• 33:34
  like if you already own him like you can't cut a guy who's 1.1 on
• 33:38
  the season at 1.29 over the past 2.
• 33:41
  Weeks when I said that I meant like shallower leagues, like a
• 33:43
  lot of 10 team leagues like it's he's your worst player like he's
• 33:47
  still great, but that's taking up your streaming spot.
• 33:49
  I would rather have a streaming spot where you can stream guys
• 33:51
  of like potentially quality for more what you need.
• 33:54
  Or do you rather just hold Malkin through those stretches
• 33:56
  like he has a two game week this week You're in A10 team league.
• 33:58
  Like are you? Are you cutting?
• 34:00
  For like a marshman. Yeah, look at Marshman.
• 34:04
  Or like, you know who else? I mean, John.
• 34:09
  McCain or something, you know, like.
• 34:11
  Personally, like as as low as I usually am on milk and I'm not
• 34:14
  cutting in for either of those guys.
• 34:15
  I think like I do believe in the slowdown, but I think when a guy
• 34:18
  is doing this for this long in this season, you gotta hold
• 34:20
  until the slowdown happens. It's like don't presently, yeah,
• 34:25
  100%. I'm trying to sell like that
• 34:28
  100%, but I'm not gonna drop him for nothing when he's over a
• 34:31
  point per game and has been consistently like honestly, this
• 34:34
  season, his biggest issue has been injuries, not performance.
• 34:36
  So look, if you don't have an R Plus spot, I'm not holding him
• 34:39
  dead roster spot in a shallower league.
• 34:41
  But uh, but no, I'm definitely not dropping him for for like a
• 34:45
  waiver wire stream just to get an extra game or two out of out
• 34:48
  of someone else. OK.
• 34:50
  Yeah. So I would say sell, hold, then
• 34:52
  buy. One last thing before we move on
• 34:54
  here. And then by the way, cell hold
• 34:57
  buy, that's like the favorable transactions is what I meant.
• 35:01
  I would like, you don't wanna buy, you could hold and if you
• 35:04
  could sell, amazing. Yeah, but it's gotta be for good
• 35:07
  value because Morgan's got the name.
• 35:09
  If he does miss a game or two. What do we think about Chikov
• 35:13
  taking taking a look on that power play one?
• 35:16
  He's been pretty decent, 33 points over his last three
• 35:19
  games. Like on a 3.3 game points streak
• 35:23
  he wasn't around his loss. Impossible, but it just like in
• 35:27
  the past, you know, it just been meant of the season.
• 35:29
  That's who they go with when when Malcolm's out so and
• 35:32
  Martha's been really good and when he's had those stretches of
• 35:35
  of getting power play one time, he's actually done something
• 35:37
  with it. So unless they're trying to
• 35:39
  really pump Gino's tires and like, you know, be like a reward
• 35:42
  him or something for playing well, I don't see it going to
• 35:45
  someone other than. But it's also like his mantra,
• 35:47
  you know, like you can easily not get it.
• 35:49
  Like it's not like it's not like all this guy has to be
• 35:51
  carefully. Why are you kidding me?
• 35:52
  So. So it's possible for sure, but I
• 35:55
  wouldn't bet on it. I think when we when we saw
• 35:58
  Manti get it in the past, Dinicola hasn't been on the
• 36:00
  team, right. So exactly there's that new,
• 36:02
  there's a new element. I think China covers a guy that
• 36:04
  they acquired as like a, you know, let's see what we can do
• 36:07
  here. He's clearly was a working
• 36:08
  Columbus. Give him a fresh start.
• 36:09
  He we see, we saw him be like a talented player before.
• 36:12
  He's a guy on my watch list. I'm keeping an eye on him if his
• 36:15
  role grows and I'd be interested.
• 36:17
  But right now, I don't think his role is big enough for me to be
• 36:19
  interested in fantasy. Yeah, Speaking of the Penguins,
• 36:23
  Eric Carlson returned from injury and bumped Chris Letang
• 36:25
  from power play 1. And then Chris Letang returned
• 36:28
  from injury but didn't get back power play one because Carlson
• 36:31
  is back. But it seems like I was gonna,
• 36:33
  seems like most of the Penguins are healthy, but now Malcolm's
• 36:35
  day-to-day again. So we'll see what happens with
• 36:37
  that. But but yeah, if you're Carlson
• 36:39
  owner, you're happy he's back. I'm still, I had recommended him
• 36:43
  as a cell high like a month ago at this point.
• 36:46
  And I hope people sold because I mean, Kevin, you're a Carlson
• 36:49
  owner. I haven't been following super
• 36:51
  super closely on him but other than the injury I feel like he
• 36:53
  slowed down a decent amount since his like over point per
• 36:56
  game pace from a from a month ago.
• 36:58
  Yeah, I mean, you were not gonna expect Carlson the average point
• 37:01
  per game page for the whole. Season he was at like .5 power
• 37:03
  play points to. At the time it was not.
• 37:05
  I mean the power play is still alive, but they still the top
• 37:07
  five power play, which is great. In my situation.
• 37:10
  He's my only power play 1 defenseman, so I'm not really
• 37:14
  trying to ship him off unless I can get another power play on
• 37:16
  defence. But I'm happy holding because I
• 37:18
  do think Pittsburgh will be a playoff team and then I want
• 37:21
  that five game. We can do finals so.
• 37:23
  Yeah. That's fair as my only power
• 37:25
  play 1 defenseman, I'm I'm happy with that.
• 37:26
  But absolutely, if you had Eric Carlson and you did not sell
• 37:29
  high earlier, like his value is not where it was and you
• 37:31
  definitely cannot get the same the same return.
• 37:34
  Yeah, Tom Wilson returned from injury and bumped John Carlson
• 37:38
  off power play 1. And is who's on power play one
• 37:41
  now, Is it? Is Ethan Frank not on there
• 37:43
  anymore? Kevin's guy.
• 37:48
  He had quite the. Strike got burned too many times
• 37:51
  by this Frank. Kevin fixed him up, he puts up
• 37:54
  zeros, then Kevin asked to bench him because he had too many
• 37:56
  CC's. Kevin drops him and then he puts
• 37:58
  up like a three-point game. Actually unheard of, but no he's
• 38:02
  Ethan Frank is unfortunately not aligned 3 power play 2 now I
• 38:05
  think so that's that's that's no Justin Sorton, that's for sure
• 38:09
  he's so good no Tom Cruise either.
• 38:12
  So I'm long gone are the days of being the best Ethan.
• 38:19
  Probably possible. I love sort of I'm I think he's
• 38:23
  great. He's been really sick in his
• 38:26
  last three games. Like yeah, get out of town,
• 38:29
  Loki, anyone playing with Wilson is great.
• 38:31
  And wait, wait till the revenge of Alex Alexe, which has.
• 38:35
  Happened. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:39
  It's like. This week, so you can expect
• 38:41
  some big. Things whether you honestly.
• 38:45
  Yeah, I am. He's coming in on A2 game
• 38:48
  points. You're telling you Alexa doesn't
• 38:51
  doesn't play around? Oh God, I just know he's getting
• 38:54
  a Shorty against me. This.
• 38:55
  Week Well, he he's got two goals in his last two games, so yeah,
• 39:01
  over the last two weeks of .43 points per game.
• 39:04
  So damn, he's. Gonna believe it.
• 39:06
  That's about to double this week.
• 39:07
  He yeah. But yeah, pretty great for all
• 39:11
  the Tom Wilson owners and John Carlson.
• 39:13
  I mean, we've been saying this album for for weeks, so
• 39:16
  hopefully he's not on anyone's team anymore.
• 39:18
  Just one last thing, on produce he is 1 power play point away
• 39:23
  from doubling his production on the power play last season.
• 39:26
  So wow, what a guy is so close to that got a level of.
• 39:31
  I mean, that's like 100% like a year over year improvement.
• 39:35
  So you have. A player on your fantasy team
• 39:37
  that's getting double the amount of fancy fantasy power play
• 39:40
  points they had from last year this year is 1 away.
• 39:44
  That's crazy. I, I'm loving this.
• 39:46
  I think, I think you're hopping on the train.
• 39:48
  I'm just saying he's 4 points away from Doro Fab on the
• 39:50
  season, so he's getting there. Infinite amounts more power,
• 39:56
  Playboy. That's not what the beer bet
• 39:57
  entails. I know, I'm just saying what is
• 40:00
  way more valuable than the other.
• 40:02
  Ohv My God. OK just keep going.
• 40:05
  He literally has 21 power play points to produces. 1.
• 40:14
  It's a close one for sure. Would one more point PowerPoint
• 40:19
  Produce will have two, doubling his total of last season.
• 40:22
  Down. So there you go.
• 40:24
  Listen, I guarantee you Dora faves.
• 40:26
  Not actually. He made double listings for last
• 40:28
  season, but still. Produce.
• 40:29
  But how old are you? That's it.
• 40:32
  I will beer bet you that produce less than three power play
• 40:37
  points on the season. Ohhhhh no, that's not what this
• 40:41
  is all about. This.
• 40:42
  Is your bet. This is a points thing.
• 40:45
  That's that's what. That's what protest is good.
• 40:46
  For like Kevin, Kevin, would you be about Jackie?
• 40:49
  That produce doesn't get a single more power play point the
• 40:51
  rest of this season. Honestly, I would be a bad Jake.
• 40:54
  He should speak. You don't even think.
• 40:56
  He's getting one PowerPoint the rest of the season.
• 41:00
  Probably last year. No, that's not his game.
• 41:05
  I thought you were produced believer.
• 41:07
  You can't even. Yeah, you only have the
• 41:09
  conviction about him getting one PowerPoint.
• 41:13
  This is why. You can't.
• 41:15
  You can't convince me. Listen, that's just not where he
• 41:17
  thrives here. Eagle, though, Hagel.
• 41:20
  Hagel's been not great on PowerPoint, but.
• 41:22
  All the power play what on dad ball think of beer but he'll get
• 41:26
  one more power play point that's.
• 41:28
  It. No, no more produce.
• 41:32
  Bo Horvat returned from injury, and the Islanders decided to
• 41:36
  split their power play units to A1A1B.
• 41:38
  We discussed this previously. I don't expect that to last.
• 41:41
  I feel like that never lasts. But whichever Hornets with
• 41:44
  Schaefer, that's the one unit. And then eventually they'll
• 41:47
  realize that it's dumb to split and they'll put Barzal back on
• 41:50
  there. Yes, that's exactly what happens
• 41:53
  all the time. Literally.
• 41:55
  Mason Mctavish is out with an upper body injury.
• 41:57
  Mikael Granlund gets his spot on line one power play 1.
• 42:00
  They're now out their top 2 seas.
• 42:02
  So Granlund stonks go up for now.
• 42:06
  But we don't know the extent of this Mctavish injury.
• 42:08
  And I also feel like Carlson's due to be back probably right
• 42:11
  after the Olympics, right? Or even right before.
• 42:14
  So I wouldn't read too much into this and get too hyped about
• 42:17
  Grantland to #1C on the docks. I think as long as one of
• 42:22
  Mctavish or Carlton is out, granny will still keep a decent
• 42:25
  role cause I don't know if they have any other like decent
• 42:28
  centres on this team. Like they're they're just going
• 42:30
  through them right now. So I think grandpa great like
• 42:33
  spot start in terms of like if you need depth, different deeper
• 42:36
  league and you need somebody that's, you know, centre
• 42:38
  eligible, like he could be a guy for you.
• 42:40
  I think also just Anaheim is we thought they were probably a
• 42:43
  playoff team then they were like the worst team in the league for
• 42:46
  a long time. Now I think they're like not the
• 42:48
  worst team in the league, but like closer to there than the
• 42:50
  best team in the league. The rest of the season they're
• 42:54
  going to be better, but I This is why I'm lower on the style
• 42:57
  than I think most. That's fair.
• 43:00
  I, I was just gonna say I'm so annoyed because I actually sent
• 43:03
  like a really solid like Bilo offer for just style like 2
• 43:07
  weeks ago or something, like when he was like a drop.
• 43:10
  But for like, for some reason the owner just thinks I'm always
• 43:13
  trying to swindle everyone. So he's like, oh, you're trying
• 43:15
  to trade for those still. He must be about to pop off.
• 43:18
  And then he did. And I'm like, like, I'm like, I
• 43:20
  didn't know. I, you know, I hoped that's why
• 43:23
  I tried to trade for him. But like, it just makes me look
• 43:25
  so bad. It's like you're anytime you
• 43:28
  send me an offer, I'm not gonna accept because they turned it
• 43:30
  around. Immediately.
• 43:30
  Did he actually say that to you? I mean, kind of, you know, no,
• 43:38
  that one was pretty much just ignored.
• 43:40
  But I'm pretty. Sure.
• 43:41
  It was like, it was like just suspects that I'm always up to
• 43:44
  something so. That's OK.
• 43:46
  I thought that's like actually what he said to you.
• 43:48
  It's like OK good indication that Dostall stocks are going up
• 43:54
  then. That's hilarious response.
• 43:56
  Yeah, I was right, but I don't get to benefit anyways.
• 44:02
  Luke Hughes is on LTIR with a shoulder injury.
• 44:06
  Dougie Hamilton is on power. Play one while he's out.
• 44:09
  If you were insane enough to hold on to Dougie Hamilton all
• 44:12
  season like certain people, you are absolutely loving it lately.
• 44:19
  Yeah, it's it's definitely a turnaround story for him.
• 44:23
  I think like this whole thing with Luke Hughes kind of not
• 44:26
  being great is is totally overblown.
• 44:29
  And the only reason that it's it's like that is because he has
• 44:33
  a big, a lot big shoes to fill. That's for sure.
• 44:37
  But I feel like, you know, going into Queen Hughes third year, he
• 44:41
  wasn't some elite defenseman in the way we think about him, you
• 44:45
  know, now. And for Luke, this is just more
• 44:49
  of like an IRL analysis than necessarily fantasy.
• 44:51
  But like I would say they go hand in hand.
• 44:54
  It was basically Quinn's third year that he had the breakout.
• 44:57
  So this was supposed to be Luke's year for a breakout and
• 45:00
  now he's got this injury. Like it kind of just sucks to be
• 45:02
  honest. But I think if the double S do
• 45:05
  pick it up, no matter when, no matter when Luke comes back,
• 45:08
  they'll just keep keep going with Dougie on power play one
• 45:11
  unless it gets traded of. Course, yeah, I think the issue
• 45:14
  that Luke's been having and the reason that his perception
• 45:17
  perception of him is so bad is because I think a lot of people
• 45:22
  feel, well, there's two main reasons.
• 45:23
  The two main reasons is one, that you have a defenseman in
• 45:26
  Dougie who's getting paid the amount Dougie is and all he's
• 45:29
  good at really, or like the type of defence is he should be a
• 45:32
  power play one quarterback. So that's the first thing.
• 45:35
  And the second thing is that Luke Hughes held out for a
• 45:38
  massive contract. He's getting paid more than Jack
• 45:40
  uses, you know, and people feel like he got given the contract.
• 45:43
  He got given power play one because of his last name and
• 45:46
  then he's failing to deliver. If he was just a random no name,
• 45:50
  like look at Simon image. You know, he had like, I'm like,
• 45:53
  yeah, he's like a year, a year too younger and he hasn't
• 45:57
  necessarily like broken out yet. They don't see anyone upset at
• 46:00
  him, right, But he doesn't he didn't get kind of like given
• 46:03
  the reins before he proved anything.
• 46:06
  So I think that's kind of like where where it kind of stems
• 46:08
  from is people are like, OK, you you want hardball.
• 46:11
  You stayed out of training camp to get this big contract.
• 46:13
  You got given power play one ahead of Dougie, who earned it
• 46:16
  more, you know, so do something with it.
• 46:19
  And then he didn't. So that's when that's kind of
• 46:20
  where it came from, I think. But no, he's definitely, yeah,
• 46:23
  he's definitely gonna like become a really good defenseman
• 46:26
  IRL and pointwise for fantasy. I don't expect him to be a bad
• 46:29
  cats guy ever, but still, like, he's gonna be good.
• 46:32
  It's just it was a bit too early, I think, to give him the
• 46:34
  reins to power play on either that or trade Dougie.
• 46:36
  But I mean, to be fair, they did try.
• 46:38
  They tried to trade doggy and then now they're stuck with him
• 46:41
  cause Hughes hurt. I think Hughes will be like a
• 46:45
  like 85% of like Lane Hudson type of player.
• 46:48
  I think that's kind of how I see him in my.
• 46:50
  It's pretty sick. Yeah, which is pretty sick and
• 46:52
  that's that's his probably potential and cause we've
• 46:55
  already seen Hudson do it right. So we have to give him the
• 46:58
  benefit of the doubt that he's got more talent will be better.
• 47:00
  But Hughes, you know, has a has the family pedigree as well on
• 47:06
  his side. So it really sucks for him
• 47:09
  injury wise. We saw him last year when when
• 47:11
  Dougie was hurt, like he really like reveled in the role and
• 47:14
  took it and ran with it. So maybe we see the opposite
• 47:17
  this of that happened this year where Dougie just like he's the
• 47:20
  main guy right now. They have nobody else to rely on
• 47:22
  offensively and he just takes any runs and or states.
• 47:25
  And thus far, I mean, it's been what, like he's got like 10
• 47:28
  points in 12 games or something like that.
• 47:31
  Yeah, I think he's on a nine game.
• 47:32
  Main Street, yeah, there you go. So all all the holders are are
• 47:36
  rewarded. This is the I think this has got
• 47:38
  to be one of the biggest diamond hand situation I've ever seen
• 47:41
  the guy. Had diamond hands.
• 47:43
  I I did, I had, I had sketch and I had a Dougie.
• 47:46
  But like this one was crazy. He had I think one point in like
• 47:50
  30 games, something like that. Like he went, I think 19 games
• 47:53
  without a single point. Like how do you know, play the
• 47:56
  minute he was playing and not get a random secondary assist on
• 47:59
  an empty net or something? You know, like it was crazy.
• 48:01
  It was crazy Um, but you know what I held?
• 48:06
  I won't say it was necessarily the correct move, but I'm being
• 48:08
  rewarded. So it's all I think a lot of
• 48:11
  people picked him up like if you like a week ago or something and
• 48:14
  they're like, I can't believe I got this guy for free.
• 48:16
  So that's pretty cool. All right.
• 48:17
  Lastly, Frank Nazar returned from injury and is line 2 power
• 48:20
  play one. Actually, last I saw he was line
• 48:22
  one power play, one on the wing with Bedard.
• 48:24
  I know the coach said Bedard just not taking face offs for a
• 48:26
  while. So maybe they wanted another
• 48:28
  centre on there to take the face offs.
• 48:31
  Are you guys interested in HR at all rest of the season?
• 48:35
  Yeah, I mean, he had a decent start to the year.
• 48:37
  I'm not particularly interested. I would definitely pick him up
• 48:41
  in a deep enough league, like let's say if he was available on
• 48:44
  our waivers. But it's not the type of guy
• 48:46
  that I wanna like, trade much for, pay a high price.
• 48:50
  In real life. I wish that the Habs did not
• 48:53
  trade the pick and we kept it, and we could have gone Nazar and
• 48:59
  not traded for Doc. No offence Kirby, but stick to
• 49:03
  Super Mario. So yeah.
• 49:07
  Maybe. Maybe Kirby can get all of
• 49:09
  Nisar's powers. That's it, No.
• 49:12
  We're talking. Or cooking something.
• 49:15
  Here, Yeah. Exactly.
• 49:17
  Would you rather have on your team's rest of season Nasar or
• 49:21
  Marchman? Marshman easy for me.
• 49:25
  Face off league it actually is debatable.
• 49:28
  Without there's no question mark, man.
• 49:30
  OK, even in a face off league I'm taking Marshman.
• 49:33
  Lisa don't think it's bad to I don't think it's that that clear
• 49:37
  cut, honestly. Like I know, I know you're
• 49:40
  really high on Marshman Kevin and I know I mean, we're not
• 49:43
  like super high on Asar anything, but but that's been
• 49:46
  really bad since coming back from injury.
• 49:48
  He turns around and is back to that 1.4 points per game that
• 49:51
  was before and Nazar can stick with him on power play one in
• 49:54
  line 1. I think that's what he can do
• 49:56
  really well rest season. Now that's a lot of ifs, right?
• 49:58
  You're asking one, if Bedard could turn around and become an
• 50:01
  insane player that he was earlier and if Nazar keeps that
• 50:04
  deployment. So look, I don't think it's very
• 50:06
  likely, but I think Nasar ceiling is higher than Marchman
• 50:09
  because of. That I mean, we saw how high his
• 50:11
  ceiling was earlier this year, right, like he was, you know, he
• 50:14
  was arguably the first like must pick up guy, league winning guy
• 50:18
  type of thing. And we said like, you know, sell
• 50:19
  as soon as possible because we didn't believe in it being
• 50:21
  sustainable and it wasn't. We were we were right, So we
• 50:24
  could put ourselves on the back there.
• 50:25
  But even with that, with that under his belt on the season,
• 50:29
  he's still at less than point .6 points per game with Yeah,
• 50:34
  there's nothing to write home about, right?
• 50:35
  Like you can stream way better production than that.
• 50:38
  Do I think it's stealing is higher?
• 50:39
  Like, yeah, we obviously saw it, but that entailed Chicago being
• 50:44
  so good and Night being the top five goalie in the league and
• 50:47
  everything that went around with that.
• 50:49
  I don't think they're going to be like the rest of the season
• 50:51
  so. Yeah, that's fair.
• 50:53
  All right. Should we get to the the famous
• 50:55
  would you Rathers? I'm sure Jake, he already knows
• 50:59
  what's coming because. He knows everything already and
• 51:01
  it's not fun to keep speaking. And he's a serial peeker.
• 51:04
  Yeah, but. The worst offence man can make.
• 51:10
  Didn't even wanna make a beer bread with me for Alexa
• 51:13
  protesting 115 points on the. Just one if you hating on
• 51:19
  produce I'm into announce the would you rathers.
• 51:21
  I'm asking you to defend your boy.
• 51:23
  You're like Nah. Stop hating on him though.
• 51:26
  That's not where he thrives. Just one anyways.
• 51:31
  Alright, You're not gonna ask like a sushi chef to make you a
• 51:34
  steak. But I trust him.
• 51:37
  Cheeky. You went to Japan and you said
• 51:38
  you had like only steak and didn't eat any sushi.
• 51:41
  Ohso whole other thank you love produce into that.
• 51:50
  OHP. Anyways, if Protest was any
• 51:52
  taller, maybe you'd finally believe in him getting a power
• 51:54
  play point. But.
• 51:54
  No, he's always the colour. It's impossible.
• 51:57
  I think he's like 6-6 at this rate.
• 51:59
  He's probably just still growing.
• 52:00
  He keeps growing, Yeah, but for all of you guys that are
• 52:03
  listening for the first time, this is the famous Would You
• 52:06
  Rather section. You've heard about it
• 52:07
  everywhere, so you're finally here listening to it.
• 52:10
  I pick 5. Would you?
• 52:11
  Rathers one of each position, centre left wing, right wing,
• 52:14
  defenseman, goalie. And I try to split the
• 52:16
  difference between Jake and Josh.
• 52:17
  Have them pick two different players and this is a good way
• 52:20
  of you know, determining how we value these players rest of
• 52:23
  season, potential trade targets and how you guys should think
• 52:26
  about these players moving forward.
• 52:28
  So with all that being said, let's get into it.
• 52:32
  I think I made some good decisions choosing some spicy
• 52:35
  spicy guys right here. I try to differentiate on a week
• 52:38
  to week basis, so try not to repeat the same names.
• 52:40
  But would you rather rest of season Connor Bedard, who he
• 52:46
  just talked about, or Marty Natus rest of season?
• 52:50
  Wow, that's hype. Before the injury, Bedard was
• 52:53
  like a top first round pick type of guy.
• 52:56
  We saw nature to even have some, you know, deployment fluctuate
• 52:58
  fluctuations. So what do we think?
• 53:01
  Rest of season? Always talking banger leagues as
• 53:04
  well. Yeah, I think this, I think this
• 53:07
  really comes down to do you believe in the Bedard bounce
• 53:11
  back? Because I think we kind of know
• 53:13
  where nature is going to be, right?
• 53:14
  Which is like really good. He's gonna be like, well, 1.15
• 53:17
  something that 1.2. I think that's a pretty crazy
• 53:20
  place to be and they won't think.
• 53:22
  Before on the season. Yeah, so I feel like he's gonna
• 53:24
  end up around there and I don't really have much questions about
• 53:27
  where he's gonna end up. So I think it's really like
• 53:29
  Bedard could end up at 1.4, which is what he was doing
• 53:32
  before the injury. He could end up at what's he
• 53:34
  been doing like .67 so. On the season Bedard's at 1.23,
• 53:40
  Natures at 1.24. Basically identical but are the
• 53:43
  .36 power play point .22 but don't have 3.2 shots.
• 53:48
  Nature 2 24 Then they just has the extra hit.
• 53:52
  Yeah, but obviously like that doesn't tell the story, right?
• 53:54
  Like nature is more I feel like more consistent or as Bedard has
• 53:58
  been like insane to garbage. Mediocre.
• 54:01
  But I think I think I'm going with Bidard.
• 54:06
  I think that if it was kind of like an unexplained drop in
• 54:10
  production, then I would have been like, OK, maybe he was just
• 54:13
  off to a hot start. Like it's hard to maintain that
• 54:16
  pace for anyone, right? Even the most elite players.
• 54:18
  So, you know, he'll average out to still a great season.
• 54:21
  But but it is what it is. But I mean, it's clearly the
• 54:24
  injury, right? That's got it.
• 54:25
  That's the only thing that happened that kind of caused him
• 54:28
  to slow down. And I feel like this Olympic
• 54:30
  break is going to be really good for him.
• 54:32
  I think he probably came back a bit earlier than was best.
• 54:35
  I think, you know, the guys will come, a lot of these guys will
• 54:37
  come back when they're like 85% something like that, right?
• 54:40
  They're like, I'm good enough to play.
• 54:41
  I'm not going to be like not taking face offs, right?
• 54:43
  He's clearly not 100%, but, uh, but he's like, he's good enough
• 54:47
  to play, but I think an extra like 2-3 weeks he didn't get
• 54:50
  chosen for Team Canada. You can, we can debate, you
• 54:53
  know, whether or not we thought that was a good pick.
• 54:55
  But I think for his fantasy value, that's only gonna benefit
• 54:57
  him. And, and yeah, so I think I
• 54:59
  think he can be higher than his rest of season and I'd be
• 55:03
  willing to bet on it. Is that who you rather have on
• 55:05
  your team right now if you have to have one on your team for the
• 55:07
  rest of the season? I'm more interested in targeting
• 55:10
  Bidard now. Maybe it also ties into the fact
• 55:12
  I think I can get him for cheaper than Natures so that
• 55:14
  always helps. But I know, I know, I'd rather
• 55:18
  have addresses season than anxious final answer.
• 55:21
  Thank you. Like I, I wanna say that, but
• 55:26
  nature's got just got nine shots.
• 55:28
  And again, I saw that, yeah. Who does that?
• 55:31
  And none of those were. Goals sometimes.
• 55:33
  You're bound to like, have some positive regression there.
• 55:37
  I mean I. I mean, I've been saying that
• 55:41
  about Dougie All, yeah. Yeah, actually, I I think, I
• 55:46
  think I gotta go but dart on this one as well.
• 55:49
  Obviously this is super, super tight.
• 55:52
  The one caveat I will say is that if Panarin goes to the
• 55:57
  Avalanche, which I've heard is a possibility, that would be that
• 56:01
  would be nuts. I suppose there's still more
• 56:05
  than enough room for him on power play 1.
• 56:08
  So it would basically, yeah. And and you did mention that the
• 56:12
  power play is worse, but the whole avalanche power play has
• 56:15
  been bad. And like there is room for them
• 56:17
  to get better. If they get better, they just
• 56:18
  gets better. The reason I'm going Bidard
• 56:20
  though, is because he can do what very few other players can
• 56:26
  do as far as the shots, points combo.
• 56:29
  I also agree that the Olympic break is going to be good for
• 56:31
  him. And I I think that what he he
• 56:35
  could just be absurdly dominant or as nature can be amazing, but
• 56:41
  the one small tier below. So yeah, Bedard, but it's so
• 56:47
  close. I'm actually surprised both for
• 56:50
  you guys when Bedard, I'm gonna probably thought.
• 56:53
  You thought I was gonna go Bedard and GQ is gonna go on
• 56:55
  HSN. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:56
  Yeah, I thought so too. I thought so too, but like.
• 56:59
  They just remember one of these guys in the offseason.
• 57:02
  I know I. Know boy.
• 57:04
  It's just that he and and he was and still is, but there's like I
• 57:10
  mean like if you look at the beginning of the season, even
• 57:13
  with how good, let's say rats and started off Buzzard, you
• 57:16
  would have picked him over Ranton and with the shots and
• 57:19
  everything. As an example, Jack Hughes, same
• 57:22
  story. Like these are guys that Jack
• 57:24
  Eichel probably same story Reinhardt, right.
• 57:27
  You know, so to me, I'm just thinking I'm like, that's.
• 57:31
  What the ceiling? Yeah, that's what Bedard could
• 57:33
  do. Whereas nature, it's like he's a
• 57:35
  firm second rounder that is super good and steady but not as
• 57:41
  good as the other guys who were amazing.
• 57:45
  Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm going, I'm going Natures.
• 57:47
  I'm on an island here. To me, it's just I've we've seen
• 57:51
  the highest for Bidara Island. I'm just saying.
• 57:53
  Yeah, but I'm also, I guess I'm just like more of a risk averse
• 57:56
  management in both of you guys. Like, yeah, I agree.
• 57:58
  What we've seen, Bidard, the ceiling is really high.
• 58:02
  I think Nate just has a really high ceiling as well.
• 58:04
  And I'm gonna take the guy that's been like producing the
• 58:07
  whole season as opposed to the guy that like had, you know, a
• 58:10
  month and a half stretch of being like super elite and has
• 58:13
  almost no talent around him to support them as well.
• 58:16
  So I just think I'd be, I'd be way more disappointed in myself
• 58:21
  if I went Bidard and then he delivered .8 points per game and
• 58:26
  I'm missing out on nature just getting, you know, point 3.4
• 58:30
  points more than him. And I just want the guaranteed
• 58:34
  production that I feel like nature is and I can get the
• 58:37
  extra benefits of the production I'm missing out on elsewhere on
• 58:41
  my team. So yeah.
• 58:43
  And plus the injury, you never know.
• 58:45
  He's got nobody playing with him.
• 58:47
  Like obviously Celebrity is doing it, but Celebrity has a
• 58:49
  couple guys that are really good or like good.
• 58:52
  But Doris just got no Burakovsky and.
• 58:55
  Nick fully choosy. Like yeah, exactly so.
• 58:58
  Yeah, yeah. Alright, next one.
• 59:02
  This one. This is my least confident one.
• 59:07
  Would you rather rest of season I?
• 59:09
  I just feel like I won't split the difference here, but OK, I
• 59:13
  think it's worth a conversation. Would you rather rest of season
• 59:16
  Zach Hyman or Brandon Hagel? I mean, I OK, you could go
• 59:24
  ahead. I I'm I'm biased.
• 59:27
  I know Jake is choosing. Yeah, to me it's easy.
• 59:30
  But hey. Why is it easy?
• 59:32
  I mean look, I alright, should I go off vibes or should I quickly
• 59:38
  look up their their their numbers?
• 59:40
  OK, you're than the first one, let's say that.
• 59:44
  And I think Hagel is the clear choice here cuz he's been so
• 59:49
  good. They're finally giving him a
• 59:50
  shot of power play, one which was like the thing holding them
• 59:53
  back for so long. I'm finally giving him a shot,
• 59:55
  though like points is hurt. It still, it used to take like
• 1:00:01
  like every possible thing for him to maybe get a minute of
• 1:00:04
  power, play one in a game and it would never even be listed on
• 1:00:07
  that. And now it's like, OK, he's
• 1:00:09
  there. Are you confident that he keeps
• 1:00:11
  the spot? One point comes back.
• 1:00:15
  Not 100. Percent like rest of season on
• 1:00:17
  it. I would I would say that there's
• 1:00:21
  a decent chance, but either way, like he's thrived without it and
• 1:00:24
  it's not as if his power play 1 is actually where he's getting
• 1:00:28
  the majority of his points in the recently, but he's just been
• 1:00:32
  on such an absolute terror. Because to me human gets more
• 1:00:36
  shots, more hits, more power play points, and then probably
• 1:00:40
  gonna get like .1 to .15 less points.
• 1:00:44
  And that's if Hagel keeps power Play 1.
• 1:00:49
  I mean, Hyman hasn't been hitting in the past month.
• 1:00:51
  I mean, I'm looking at the stats right now, humans at .2 hits in
• 1:00:54
  the past months and heels at .77.
• 1:00:56
  So yeah, I'll take hits out of the equation.
• 1:00:58
  I Hyman will definitely have the edge in shots and he'll
• 1:01:00
  definitely have in PowerPoints regardless of Hegel keeping it
• 1:01:03
  or not. He's playing on the Edmonton
• 1:01:05
  power play and it's a lock. So.
• 1:01:07
  So he'll have power play points and shots.
• 1:01:08
  He's definitely going to get points.
• 1:01:10
  I mean, with what's Hagel's doing, like there's no way
• 1:01:12
  Heinen's finishing with more points.
• 1:01:14
  And so it's pretty much the question is what's that?
• 1:01:16
  How big of a difference? It is another factor we like to
• 1:01:19
  take at this point in the season, this should be in every
• 1:01:21
  conversation as the playoff schedule and Hagel gets two
• 1:01:24
  extra games over Hymen. So it's tough, it really.
• 1:01:28
  Depends on the 23. Year 2123, I think it's this
• 1:01:32
  entire question hinges on do you think?
• 1:01:34
  I mean, look, I actually I don't think he's keeping power play.
• 1:01:37
  One point comes back. I don't.
• 1:01:39
  I mean they just like where they like they should take off during
• 1:01:42
  instead of Hegel, but for some reason that's how they were
• 1:01:44
  running it before. And it's not like eagles
• 1:01:47
  production hasn't been powerfully production, not that
• 1:01:49
  he's been hindering it. He's got like the .23, he's been
• 1:01:51
  solid, but I mean, that's not like where he's showing his
• 1:01:53
  value. And the coaches kind of said it
• 1:01:55
  again. Again, he likes not having Hagel
• 1:01:57
  on power play once. He'd rather use his ice time in
• 1:01:59
  other situations. So I do think he loses power
• 1:02:02
  play 1 is he's still gonna get more points than human though.
• 1:02:05
  I'm still convinced. Like I I see Hegel getting like
• 1:02:08
  just just, I mean, subtract the point he's got in the past
• 1:02:11
  month, right? He's gotten .23 the past month
• 1:02:13
  and the past month he's at 1.38 points per game.
• 1:02:15
  You take that away, leaves him at 1.15.
• 1:02:19
  Shave off another .05. He's been really hot .1 other
• 1:02:22
  end up around 1 to 1.1 points per game.
• 1:02:25
  Hyman should end up around like 9 something like that so. .97 on
• 1:02:30
  the season. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm pretty
• 1:02:32
  confident he would end up around .9.
• 1:02:34
  So I think it's gonna be like a .1 to .2 points difference, but
• 1:02:39
  it could be a .2 power play points difference.
• 1:02:40
  So and a 1.2 shots. But Hagel has the two extra
• 1:02:45
  games. It's super close.
• 1:02:46
  I don't think this is a bad one at all.
• 1:02:48
  No, it's not bad. I'm trying to think like usually
• 1:02:52
  I like, like if Hyman at the better playoff schedule to me,
• 1:02:55
  I'd pick Hyman immediately. But I think with the with the
• 1:02:58
  difference in playoff schedule and just how hot Hagel has been
• 1:03:01
  and all that, it's making it really tough for me to go Hymen.
• 1:03:04
  So, but the power play points, I love those juicy powerfully
• 1:03:08
  points, you know, So it's really tough.
• 1:03:12
  I'm a power place, so I yeah, I just think hymen come playoff
• 1:03:17
  time, like yeah, it might be 3 games to 4, but just give me
• 1:03:21
  those Harpley that power play for to make David any like to
• 1:03:23
  give you two or three power play points.
• 1:03:26
  I believe you disappeared. Yeah, my camera just stay up.
• 1:03:32
  Who's that go that ghost saying that we should choose human?
• 1:03:35
  I don't know honestly I'm so I'm so split right now like.
• 1:03:39
  No, that's it. Look, without the power play,
• 1:03:42
  he's still gonna get more points.
• 1:03:44
  One of the main reasons we like power play points is yes, it's a
• 1:03:47
  category and or it's a boost in fantasy points, but it's like
• 1:03:50
  for categories leagues is because it gives you the
• 1:03:53
  opportunity to. Get double points.
• 1:03:55
  That's a huge part of like I look at PowerPoints 60% or 70%
• 1:04:01
  of the reason because like that gives the player the opportunity
• 1:04:03
  to get more points. Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  So to me, if you already have getting four, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:08
  If you already have a floor of being better with points and
• 1:04:11
  then you add on the power play points as like a potential,
• 1:04:15
  which he does currently have, I can't.
• 1:04:17
  I can't not. What about the shots though?
• 1:04:20
  The. Shots are big, it's like .8 or
• 1:04:23
  point 7.8 month really because. Yeah.
• 1:04:28
  On the season, look, it could be, you know, it's 2.93 to 3.21.
• 1:04:34
  So, you know, perhaps the last month is a different thing.
• 1:04:38
  Last two weeks it's 3:00 to 4:00.
• 1:04:39
  So you're right, it's definitely a shot.
• 1:04:42
  I also feel like Hyman shooting more than he usually does as
• 1:04:44
  opposed to Hagel not shooting a lot.
• 1:04:47
  So I think that's what it ends up being is .7.
• 1:04:51
  But I don't know. I mean, I don't feel strongly
• 1:04:54
  about this. It's still close.
• 1:04:55
  Look, my instinct, my vibes answer before I looked at the
• 1:04:59
  stats was going to be hymen. But I think after looking at it,
• 1:05:01
  I'm actually going Hagel. Like I I don't think Hagel keeps
• 1:05:05
  fire play one, but there's still a chance he does.
• 1:05:09
  And the fact is that the kind of similar reason with choosing
• 1:05:11
  Bidart over NHS, I'm always gonna choose the guy with the
• 1:05:13
  higher ceiling. And I think Hagel has the higher
• 1:05:15
  ceiling than yeah. By the way, if you didn't have
• 1:05:17
  the power play one now I would agree.
• 1:05:19
  I would just probably just choose Hyman.
• 1:05:20
  Like I guess I get why, even though I still think Hegel could
• 1:05:24
  be better, but it's like right now this is just like a cherry
• 1:05:27
  on top of a bonus and he's he has.
• 1:05:31
  It so yeah. Plus no shorthanded points
• 1:05:34
  recently, and that's another thing Hegel can do.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah, sure, all. Right, I'm on an island, Super
• 1:05:41
  2. I don't want Hyman, OK, I'm, I'm
• 1:05:45
  just think I like the power play points and I think it's just
• 1:05:48
  super valuable for first of all points leagues that have actual
• 1:05:51
  bonuses for power play points. And then also the category
• 1:05:54
  leagues like I just want guys that are exposed to top power
• 1:05:57
  plays because on any given night, you know that they can
• 1:06:00
  get you one to two and just having that consistent exponent.
• 1:06:04
  Hyman might have three power play points come playoffs and in
• 1:06:08
  one week and you know he will get 0 and maybe they both get 5
• 1:06:13
  points, but I'll take Hymns PowerPoint.
• 1:06:15
  So all right, next one talking defensemen here.
• 1:06:18
  Would you rather rest of season Jacob Chikurin or Matthew
• 1:06:23
  Schaefer? Actually both of these guys were
• 1:06:25
  mentioned somewhat recently, but I still think it's worth having
• 1:06:28
  a conversation because I think the values are really
• 1:06:30
  fluctuating recently. I mean, chicken I know has been
• 1:06:33
  bad because I've been like kind of trying to like not put him as
• 1:06:38
  a buy low. Well, not trying to not put him.
• 1:06:39
  He's just he's always been on my short list the past couple of
• 1:06:42
  weeks, but this has been better ones.
• 1:06:44
  So I know that he's been bad. I haven't really been checking
• 1:06:46
  out. So I will say.
• 1:06:49
  Chickens, actually, Josh. OK, I was about to say that.
• 1:06:53
  Normally you tell me these names and I'm just like on the ball
• 1:06:56
  and I know what everyone's been doing, but the last like 2 weeks
• 1:06:59
  I've been depressed fantasy wise.
• 1:07:01
  I just haven't been looking. So I'm kind of getting back into
• 1:07:05
  the swing of things. I'm hoping this week will go
• 1:07:07
  better for me. But the worst place team you
• 1:07:09
  should, you should have a better week.
• 1:07:12
  I should, but you know, it hasn't been luck.
• 1:07:14
  Has not been going well for me. Yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Exactly, League is super competitive, it feels like
• 1:07:18
  nobody's out of it until the very end.
• 1:07:21
  This is tough. This is a tough one.
• 1:07:24
  I'll start us off on the road Chicken.
• 1:07:28
  I I think obviously Schaefer's got a higher point ceiling, but
• 1:07:32
  the fact is Chikurin has a really nice shot blocks
• 1:07:36
  guarantee that I don't think Schafer's gonna come close to
• 1:07:41
  and also isn't horrible with hitting.
• 1:07:44
  The power play is decent and I don't think their points are
• 1:07:48
  going to be really that far off. Like sure, Shafer could outscore
• 1:07:51
  him points wise on the season, though even that chickens been
• 1:07:56
  better. So I do think I'll have a strong
• 1:07:58
  finish. It's going to be volatile for
• 1:07:59
  Shafer nevertheless. Like going to be Alabama team,
• 1:08:03
  but I'm gonna take a chicken here.
• 1:08:05
  I like the back cats points potential and everything a lot
• 1:08:08
  better. And the Pimms almost one pimp
• 1:08:11
  like a game on the season so. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the
• 1:08:14
  chicken as well. Looking at the stats I fully
• 1:08:16
  agree. I mean the shots is a big big
• 1:08:18
  difference. The box is almost as full block
• 1:08:20
  difference. The power play points checking
• 1:08:22
  over the past month .36 to Shafer's .14.
• 1:08:26
  And now we see why I'm messing around with the power play.
• 1:08:29
  It's for the Islanders. And they're missing horror, but
• 1:08:32
  for a long time don't. He's their best player.
• 1:08:33
  That's fair, but now like Corvettes back and they're
• 1:08:35
  Barzel's not on that unit for some reason.
• 1:08:37
  Like I just think that I mean, look, these are both great
• 1:08:39
  players, but like Jay said, I'd be happy to have shit from my
• 1:08:41
  team. But I think chicken also like
• 1:08:44
  Washington is definitely a buyer.
• 1:08:46
  They're actively seeking another offensive.
• 1:08:48
  Like I mean, I know I had said that like with the whole, you
• 1:08:51
  know, Wilson and OV thing, like I didn't know if Panarin would
• 1:08:54
  go to Washington, but I'm seeing more and more Washington linked
• 1:08:57
  to Panera. And so I think that they're
• 1:09:00
  going to make a splash others, Panera or whether it's someone
• 1:09:02
  else, they're gonna acquire someone to put at that fifth
• 1:09:05
  spot on the power play that they kind of just haven't had someone
• 1:09:07
  they're happy with there. And I think it's gonna boost
• 1:09:09
  that power play even more. So I think Chicken is going to
• 1:09:11
  benefit a lot from that. I do think that Shafer post
• 1:09:14
  Olympics could have a real like we talk about it all the time
• 1:09:17
  with these rookies and he's putting on a super impressive
• 1:09:20
  rookie season. So I would not be surprised if
• 1:09:23
  that really leads him to have a post Olympics, you know, star
• 1:09:26
  campaign finished for the season and I think the Islanders will
• 1:09:29
  be like healthy. I also locating the Islanders
• 1:09:31
  are buyers like may it may not be as high stakes as some other
• 1:09:34
  teams. We were seeing them trying to
• 1:09:35
  poach off Carson Susie from the Rangers.
• 1:09:38
  Yeah, so buyers, quote UN quote. But yeah, I'm also going
• 1:09:43
  chicken. My alternative was chicken
• 1:09:46
  versus Hamilton after Dougie Hamilton after the recent surge.
• 1:09:49
  Points and which will go and check it.
• 1:09:52
  If someone would give me chicken for Hamilton I would take that
• 1:09:54
  in a think you could. Absolutely.
• 1:09:55
  Try that right now. Somebody looks at the game log,
• 1:09:57
  it's a lot of points in the Hamilton favor, so.
• 1:10:00
  OK, yeah, worth the yeah. But yeah, alright.
• 1:10:05
  The checker for. Me this next one is super fun
• 1:10:07
  for me I wanna listen to you guys do get out but we're.
• 1:10:11
  Talking my players and goalies. Would you rather rest of season
• 1:10:17
  Darcy Tucker Comfort? Yeah or or the bussy?
• 1:10:26
  I honestly think it's worth a question with how bad Kemper has
• 1:10:29
  been and I think how you know more consistent.
• 1:10:31
  Bussy has been on a good team too.
• 1:10:34
  Think Ellie has a lot of things to figure out.
• 1:10:36
  But we know the ceiling for Darcy Kemper and its elite.
• 1:10:38
  So how do you guys feel? I mean, I'll go, I mean, look,
• 1:10:43
  we're both going to say our own guys, right?
• 1:10:45
  But like, I think it's more impressive.
• 1:10:47
  I think it's more impressive that I'm still waiting willing
• 1:10:49
  to say Kemper after all he's put me through.
• 1:10:52
  It's a lot easier to say the guy who's been performing well.
• 1:10:54
  Like when he's on your team is performing well, you're
• 1:10:56
  obviously take that guy. So if I'm still saying Kemper
• 1:10:58
  when he's been absolute God, no dog awful sorry for months.
• 1:11:04
  Um, it's just like it's the ceiling, right?
• 1:11:06
  Like in every every time we talk about camper.
• 1:11:09
  I mean, he was literally Jake's bylo this past this past week.
• 1:11:13
  We all kind of see him as like the potential of being a top
• 1:11:15
  five goalie in the league, right?
• 1:11:17
  And Bush's been unreal. Huge pickup could be like one of
• 1:11:20
  the goalie pickups of the year for sure.
• 1:11:22
  And I think he's gonna have a really strong finish.
• 1:11:24
  I just don't think he has the same ceiling as Kemper does.
• 1:11:27
  I think if you have pussy you can pretty easily flip them for
• 1:11:30
  Kemper in most leagues and I would do that.
• 1:11:34
  All right, OK, I wanna be fair here.
• 1:11:37
  And 1st, I'm just gonna go over the billows that I had for
• 1:11:41
  Kemper. And I obviously believe that I'm
• 1:11:43
  sending these guys for Kemper and I'm happy.
• 1:11:45
  I want to see if I would do them all for Bussy.
• 1:11:47
  OK, before I give this a proper answer, John Gibson I'm taking
• 1:11:53
  pussy Jeremy Swamin, I'm taking bussy Joseph Wall, I'm taking
• 1:11:58
  Bussey and Carella Melka, who I think is a fantastic goalie.
• 1:12:02
  I'm still taking. I think it's I think it's busy,
• 1:12:05
  but it's gonna say buzzy. So so let me let me get that out
• 1:12:12
  of the way before I give my answer.
• 1:12:15
  If America, by the way, didn't have the two game week in the
• 1:12:17
  finals, I think it would be a bit of a different story.
• 1:12:20
  But it really is kind of a bummer.
• 1:12:22
  In fact, I'm actually I'm gonna points league and my team's
• 1:12:27
  pretty good and I'm trying to send him for picks next year.
• 1:12:31
  And anyway, the guy I'm in a league with wants to get back.
• 1:12:36
  It's a whole thing. All this to say, the milk is
• 1:12:38
  great. It's just the two game week in
• 1:12:40
  the finals that's the only reason he's.
• 1:12:42
  A lot of goals get 2 starts in the finals.
• 1:12:43
  I don't think it should be a deal breaker.
• 1:12:45
  For goalie, I don't think the two game we says as big of a
• 1:12:47
  deal. OK, So you've helped me navigate
• 1:12:50
  my trade situation in the other league, so thank you for that.
• 1:12:53
  Second of all, well with this, see how it's.
• 1:12:58
  Busy has won fourteen of his last 17 stars.
• 1:13:01
  Yeah, so not. Yeah, there's, there's nothing
• 1:13:05
  like pussy. Brandon, that is, of the
• 1:13:09
  Carolina Hurricanes. Yeah, yeah, because of his
• 1:13:11
  alliteration. Ah.
• 1:13:13
  Yeah, BB. I mean, I I guess I want to be
• 1:13:18
  very objective here and probably say that if you offered me
• 1:13:23
  Kember overbusy, it would be very hard to accept.
• 1:13:28
  Honestly, it would I think that I would need like the plus and
• 1:13:32
  then like have it be a bit better.
• 1:13:34
  But if right now, let's say they were both on waivers, who am I
• 1:13:39
  picking up for the rest of the season?
• 1:13:40
  I'm gonna pick temper. So it's one of those it makes no
• 1:13:45
  sense. It makes absolutely no sense.
• 1:13:48
  I'm acknowledging that it makes no sense.
• 1:13:50
  But like, I think like I think you're starting your your team
• 1:13:54
  from scratch right now rest of season and you can pick one of
• 1:13:57
  the other. Like you gotta go with the
• 1:13:59
  reliability of Kemper. But if I have busy, I'm not
• 1:14:02
  accepting Kemper because of how good Bush's been and how bad
• 1:14:05
  Kemper has been comparatively. See what I?
• 1:14:07
  Just think that like I just think we see this throughout the
• 1:14:11
  year so many times, like not just goalies layers, right, like
• 1:14:14
  where I mean, I think I went on a bit of a tangent on our last
• 1:14:17
  Bilo sell high or something like that, where I was saying, you
• 1:14:19
  know, time and time again, we've seen these guys who are like
• 1:14:22
  high drafted or high expected going into the season going low
• 1:14:25
  stretches. And for the most part, they
• 1:14:27
  write the ship eventually and go back to where they should have
• 1:14:30
  been. And then we see all these guys
• 1:14:32
  performing like crazy who got picked up off waivers and
• 1:14:35
  eventually, you know, like look at Jasper Walstead, look at look
• 1:14:38
  at yourself, Askerov, right? Like these were guys who were in
• 1:14:42
  the exact same situation as busy or if not better, you know, and
• 1:14:45
  there were. No longer though.
• 1:14:47
  That's he's been doing it for longer.
• 1:14:49
  For sure, and he's on a better team.
• 1:14:51
  Yeah. I mean, that's what it's
• 1:14:52
  arguable. I mean, yeah, look, all I'm
• 1:14:55
  saying is I'm going with the reliability, even though he's
• 1:14:58
  been wayward. Like, to me, this is a classic
• 1:14:59
  by low, sell high. Like it's just I look, I don't
• 1:15:03
  think Bush's gonna be bad or season.
• 1:15:05
  I think he's gonna be like solid.
• 1:15:07
  I just think Kemper has it in him to be a top five goalie.
• 1:15:10
  Are you worried about LA though, just like in their terms of like
• 1:15:13
  their quality and winning games, like we haven't seen LAB quote
• 1:15:16
  UN quote this bad for this long in a long time.
• 1:15:19
  So. I mean.
• 1:15:20
  Do you wake up calls somehow? I just don't see how they could
• 1:15:25
  accept missing the playoffs. I don't think they could just
• 1:15:28
  like be like, alright, well, this is we're not doing it.
• 1:15:30
  Like let's sell whatever, you know, I think they have to make
• 1:15:33
  a push. I think like they keep saying
• 1:15:35
  they're gonna fire the coach, but like if they keep losing,
• 1:15:37
  like I don't see how they don't fire him.
• 1:15:39
  And I think that would be a huge boost.
• 1:15:41
  I think he's been absolutely terrible as it honestly, I think
• 1:15:44
  it's terrible coach and dog awful.
• 1:15:46
  Yeah. So look, I'm not gonna I'm not
• 1:15:48
  gonna use the fact that I've been like, I didn't held on to
• 1:15:51
  guys way too long and it worked out.
• 1:15:53
  But I'm also I'm going to use that look at fashion Akov, look
• 1:15:55
  at Hamilton. You know, like one guy is
• 1:15:58
  supposed to be good. Like, you know, they can go
• 1:16:00
  through stretches, but for the most part they turn it around.
• 1:16:02
  That's how I find at least unless there's a specific reason
• 1:16:04
  why they're being bad, like with status, the deployment.
• 1:16:07
  But you knew that wasn't gonna last, right?
• 1:16:08
  Hamilton was also the deployment that was gonna last.
• 1:16:11
  LA I mean, with Kemper, first there was the entries, right?
• 1:16:13
  He kept going on hot stretches, getting injured and then being
• 1:16:16
  bad when he comes back and then he wraps it up, goes in a hot
• 1:16:18
  stretch, get injured again, right.
• 1:16:19
  So assuming he doesn't get injured again, which is again,
• 1:16:22
  this big assumption, like I'm expecting a hot stretch coming
• 1:16:25
  up and all you need is for it to last until the end of the
• 1:16:28
  season. Just pretty short.
• 1:16:30
  Also, who knows how Olympics is going to affect him, right?
• 1:16:32
  Like it's even going to play. I don't know.
• 1:16:34
  But just being there, I think it's a good environment.
• 1:16:37
  I don't know. To me, it's to me, it's like I'm
• 1:16:40
  taking the vinyl over the cell high every time.
• 1:16:42
  Anytime I have a guy performing like pussy, I'm sending out
• 1:16:44
  nonstop offers for guys exactly like Kemper.
• 1:16:47
  Yeah. But do you agree that you're
• 1:16:49
  only like just put yourself in my shoes like you have Bossy and
• 1:16:52
  then you're trying to trade for Kemper.
• 1:16:53
  Would you only, would you do that one for one or would you
• 1:16:56
  accept only Kemper Plus? Cause you're not doing that, but
• 1:17:00
  Kevin would just reference people like talking in the
• 1:17:02
  discord about like potentially dropping Kemper, right?
• 1:17:05
  Yeah. So if that's like on someone's
• 1:17:08
  radar, I mean, assuming pussies owned that, yeah.
• 1:17:12
  Right, my initial offer would be for Kemper Plus and then if they
• 1:17:17
  talked me down to like one for one, I seriously consider it.
• 1:17:19
  But like I kind of get what you're saying though, Like I
• 1:17:21
  don't think it does. I don't think it doesn't make
• 1:17:23
  sense. Like I'd rather have temper
• 1:17:26
  sseason and like the free agent thing, like you pick up camper,
• 1:17:29
  but like when you have a pussy on your team was performing
• 1:17:31
  well, like you don't feel like you have to take the risk,
• 1:17:34
  right, So I get why you wouldn't.
• 1:17:36
  I get why you wouldn't make the trade like goalies, just a weird
• 1:17:40
  situation. Like I find like also like
• 1:17:43
  there's there's a lot of context.
• 1:17:44
  It's also kind of like you said with like him versus like
• 1:17:47
  Askerov and and Walstead, like he has been doing it for longer.
• 1:17:50
  He is the clear starter on a better team.
• 1:17:52
  So there's reasons why he's like in a bit of a different
• 1:17:56
  situation than those guys. But so like I'm a bit less
• 1:17:59
  scared of him just completely turning into a flop like those
• 1:18:01
  other guys. I just think you got to go with
• 1:18:03
  the like the level of reliability, like difference.
• 1:18:06
  You're going with a guy who's literally never been heard of
• 1:18:08
  before this reason versus a guy who's like been a top five
• 1:18:11
  goalie like multiple times in the past.
• 1:18:13
  Like that's kind of where I'm at.
• 1:18:14
  Like what about Hellebuyck? Would you do pussy for
• 1:18:16
  Hellebusch? I feel like I like camper more
• 1:18:19
  than yellow grasses season. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:18:22
  So like I I think I like Amber more than hell, but like it's
• 1:18:24
  like that kind of like name value thing there too, right.
• 1:18:26
  So I'm taking it all out first of all that same like that's.
• 1:18:31
  Kind of what I. Look over temper overbusy.
• 1:18:34
  Over Kemper. Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  I feel more confident in Kemper truly.
• 1:18:38
  Ohhh why? Cause hell Book was the first
• 1:18:41
  overall goalie for a reason right?
• 1:18:44
  Kemper was obviously good but he's not virtual world goalie
• 1:18:47
  And how much was awful? Winnipeg was awful but like
• 1:18:49
  Ellie has been awful too so it's like both are awful. 1 was
• 1:18:52
  drafted higher. While still in the playoff
• 1:18:55
  picture. Yeah.
• 1:18:57
  Cause I don't think I don't think Winnipeg makes the
• 1:18:59
  playoffs and I think LA. Do you think you're gonna try?
• 1:19:03
  I mean, there there were. They weren't in my divisional
• 1:19:06
  rankings as a lock for the playoffs.
• 1:19:08
  So they probably. Won't try to brag.
• 1:19:12
  OK, anyways, Long story short, I think I'm going Kemper.
• 1:19:16
  Jake, he's going pussy. Kevin, who are you going with?
• 1:19:19
  Um, I'm going to temper rest of season, but I wouldn't fault
• 1:19:23
  anybody for going busy, honestly.
• 1:19:25
  Like the body of work is there like it's been two months that
• 1:19:28
  he's doing what he's doing, if not longer.
• 1:19:30
  And I think he's on a great team.
• 1:19:33
  I think he's very safe and I think for goalies, if you can
• 1:19:35
  get a safe option, honestly, it's better than a lot of
• 1:19:38
  goalies out there so. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:19:40
  Like I've not been enjoying owning computers, but it's it's
• 1:19:44
  strange for me to say I would choose him over guys been doing
• 1:19:46
  that well, but I just feel like you gotta go with the with the
• 1:19:49
  name in certain times. Ending the would you rathers,
• 1:19:52
  we're talking about the centre position.
• 1:19:55
  Would you rather rest of season Bull Horvat or Sam Bennett rest
• 1:20:02
  of season? So I I completely missed that.
• 1:20:07
  Somebody with your camera? I don't understand.
• 1:20:08
  I don't know, you guys could definitely fix my camera early
• 1:20:11
  on and the platform we use is all let me alter my camera once
• 1:20:13
  it goes down. So even though it's fixable, I'd
• 1:20:16
  have to close everything and restart.
• 1:20:18
  We're not doing that. OK, So you guys are dealing with
• 1:20:20
  no face Cam for one more time? Do I have no shaking that booty
• 1:20:25
  right now? I I heard horror fat.
• 1:20:27
  I didn't hear the second. Name alright Bo Horvat or Sam
• 1:20:30
  Bennett rest of season? Wow, spicy.
• 1:20:34
  Very spicy. I bring the spice, Yeah, even
• 1:20:38
  though they're holding up some spice.
• 1:20:40
  Even though Harvest not on my team, this feels similar to the
• 1:20:42
  other one where it's like on my team versus a guy on Jake's
• 1:20:44
  team. That's how he splits the
• 1:20:46
  difference. He's like, I'll just get them
• 1:20:48
  both to choose their guy and then that's it.
• 1:20:50
  Easy peasy. No, it doesn't always go that
• 1:20:51
  way. OK, I mean, let's think about it
• 1:20:55
  by category. I think Horvat gets more points
• 1:20:57
  than Bennett rest this season. I think Horvat gets more shots.
• 1:21:00
  I think Corvette gets more face off wins.
• 1:21:02
  Think Bennett gets more hits, then it gets more Pimms and
• 1:21:06
  power play points. Probably Bennett.
• 1:21:08
  So it's kind of like a split and it's a cop out to say in faceoff
• 1:21:14
  wins league this guy and on face off wins league this guy.
• 1:21:16
  So which one are we assuming? Non.
• 1:21:20
  Non face off wins league. OK.
• 1:21:21
  Of course the harder one. OK, so taking out the face off
• 1:21:26
  wins. Am I going for the points shots
• 1:21:28
  guy or the Pimms hits power play points guy?
• 1:21:33
  I also think you're giving Bennett a lot of credit for his
• 1:21:35
  power play. Like, I think there's a world
• 1:21:36
  where, yeah, he's not on power. Play 1.
• 1:21:39
  Yeah, I mean, it really depends on if I was gonna say it really
• 1:21:42
  depends on if the Panthers acquire someone, because I don't
• 1:21:44
  think as the team stands right now that he's getting bumped.
• 1:21:46
  But if they go out and shop for a centre or something, then it
• 1:21:49
  can happen. I think I gotta go.
• 1:21:52
  I'm going to go Horvat. Look, it's there might be some
• 1:21:55
  bias and slash vibes going on. I.
• 1:21:57
  Only have you have no bias? I I mean, I have a ton of bias.
• 1:22:00
  I only have good memories of of horror that I drafted him super
• 1:22:03
  late. He absolutely killed it for me.
• 1:22:05
  Then I traded him for Kucherov. And then like, so you know,
• 1:22:09
  it's, it's only been it's only been fun.
• 1:22:11
  So I'm going horror fat. But Jake, feel free to tell me
• 1:22:15
  why I'm wrong. So first of all, Sam Bennett
• 1:22:19
  definitely looks like looks like a young Walter White.
• 1:22:24
  OK, you're right. Now you.
• 1:22:27
  Without. Change my answer.
• 1:22:31
  Like I'm watching Breaking Bad right now and I never put the
• 1:22:35
  pieces together until I was comparing the two players and
• 1:22:39
  looking at the difference and I'm like, alright, well, I just
• 1:22:43
  want to say so that's .1 in Sam Bennett's favor.
• 1:22:48
  Second of all, don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby,
• 1:22:52
  that he's losing power. Play 1 Kevin and.
• 1:22:54
  Kevin, can you put that on all your guys, you said.
• 1:22:56
  This speaker. Losing power play on Bennett,
• 1:22:58
  losing power play one produce. Not on your team, not even gonna
• 1:23:01
  get a power play point, you know?
• 1:23:05
  That's exactly what's happening. You literally been banished to
• 1:23:08
  the depths of. Hell.
• 1:23:11
  I'm still here. You're, you're like the he's
• 1:23:13
  just trying to crawl through the rings.
• 1:23:15
  Yeah, like you're like Gandalf. He's trying to pull you down
• 1:23:18
  with them. Yeah, last week I, I, I started
• 1:23:21
  my vendetta against Matthew Olivier again.
• 1:23:23
  And then look what happens. He can't even get my God crazy.
• 1:23:27
  The game gets postponed. They don't want the smoke.
• 1:23:30
  And I'm Pippin. Yeah.
• 1:23:34
  Just just to finish off where we all.
• 1:23:41
  Also just I don't know if when was this at the office there
• 1:23:46
  last season? You remember that man that got
• 1:23:49
  caught blowing smoke in the bathroom?
• 1:23:51
  Oh, hey. Smoke those losses.
• 1:23:58
  Glass of gold OHS sorry. Oh my God I wish my camera was
• 1:24:02
  on. So we could see smoke.
• 1:24:10
  OK, OK, alright. I'm gonna go Bennett here.
• 1:24:15
  I'm gonna go Bennett here cause I don't think he's losing the
• 1:24:18
  power play 1. I don't think they're
• 1:24:20
  necessarily gonna trade for a centre and they'll probably want
• 1:24:23
  him to keep that centre spot on the power play.
• 1:24:26
  I, I suppose Reinhart could play there, but I still think they
• 1:24:29
  like it to Chuck coming back. We said it before, but I think
• 1:24:33
  it it elevates Bennett's floor so that even though he was
• 1:24:36
  playing out of his mind and he certainly has slow down, I would
• 1:24:40
  say he's playing close to his floor now, which is a lot higher
• 1:24:44
  than it was basically to start the season.
• 1:24:47
  Starting the season he was bad, but now he's like at a point per
• 1:24:51
  game, Isaiah's floor is .85 whereas before it was like .6 or
• 1:24:55
  about. On the other hand, is playing on
• 1:24:56
  an Islander Steam that I think has been overperforming all
• 1:24:59
  year. I don't think that they're a
• 1:25:01
  shoe in to make the playoffs by any means, even though they're
• 1:25:04
  in the playoff picture now. Sure, if they get Carson Susie,
• 1:25:07
  maybe things change. They become an absolute wagon.
• 1:25:11
  You pull that in. The missing piece?
• 1:25:13
  Exactly the Suez. Actually, I'm really what what
• 1:25:17
  makes Horvat truly elite is the faceoff wins.
• 1:25:20
  He's still very good otherwise, but that also makes him super
• 1:25:24
  good in a league like ours with faceoffs.
• 1:25:26
  Otherwise, I think you're just getting better production from
• 1:25:28
  Ben and the other categories except for shots, but I'd still
• 1:25:32
  rather take what Ben and breaks to the table.
• 1:25:35
  Alright, Kevin, who you got? Splitting the difference, I'm
• 1:25:38
  going home about here. I I.
• 1:25:40
  Think I've been on the winning side of every single.
• 1:25:42
  One, you shall not pass judgment anymore, OK?
• 1:25:45
  I'm sick of this. Hopefully my camera comes back
• 1:25:48
  next episode, but I think the others have a strong finish to
• 1:25:51
  the year. I think we saw how talismanic
• 1:25:55
  this team. It's been a while since we've
• 1:25:57
  thrown out the talismanic word, but he deserves it to be honest.
• 1:25:59
  He does deserve it. I think his shots are
• 1:26:02
  incredible. I think his points are great.
• 1:26:05
  I think he has a lot going for him.
• 1:26:06
  He's an exceptional player and I think the power play will what?
• 1:26:12
  I don't know, you're just saying all the good things about horror
• 1:26:14
  and. Like, yeah, and I do really like
• 1:26:16
  Sam Bennett as well. I think we're bangers leaks.
• 1:26:18
  He's one of the few studs out there.
• 1:26:21
  But I think that Horvat has a safe way of getting more points
• 1:26:26
  and he might get less power play points, but I don't think it's
• 1:26:28
  out of the question for, you know, the Bennetts power play
• 1:26:31
  points to slow down. And that's why I'm confident
• 1:26:34
  that I want Horvat on my team rest of the season.
• 1:26:38
  So you can also think what Horvath is good at is like I can
• 1:26:42
  stream what Bennett is, what I'm missing there, you know like the
• 1:26:44
  hits and the pins. I can stream by picking them
• 1:26:47
  like Ben Sherrod or something, you know what I mean?
• 1:26:49
  Whereas it's harder to make up for the difference in that kind
• 1:26:52
  of position. Swap in a 2 for two.
• 1:26:54
  If I'm talking like centre and defenseman type of thing, you.
• 1:26:57
  So, so you think that Bennett's elite production recently has
• 1:27:00
  just been like a long, like a, like a, like a con?
• 1:27:05
  Bar must think it's a con, but I'm also I'm also realistic that
• 1:27:09
  I don't think he's going to average over a point per game
• 1:27:11
  rest of season. To me, the only con that Bennett
• 1:27:14
  is bringing to the table is the Conn Smythe.
• 1:27:17
  Thank you to everybody for. That.
• 1:27:20
  Memorable. I wish my camera was on.
• 1:27:28
  You could see the look of disgust on that page.
• 1:27:30
  I know you're smiling and you realize how clever though.
• 1:27:39
  Ohhhhh that's great. So should we wrap it up?
• 1:27:41
  Yeah, we should. We definitely should.
• 1:27:45
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  Yeah. You're actually, you got like a
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