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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 1-7-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: We'll be getting to all of these things over the
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Speaker 2: course of the next few days on the show. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: yesterday was a big day because even though it was
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Speaker 2: anti climactic in one sense, because we already knew for
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Speaker 2: years that Morgan Scalley was going to be the next guy,
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Speaker 2: and we knew for weeks that Morgan scally was the guy.
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Speaker 2: We got the official introductory press conference, the welcome for
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Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley up at the Field Club at the at
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Speaker 2: Rece Cycle Stadium, and if you didn't have a chance
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Speaker 2: to listen to it live, it was right around two
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Speaker 2: o'clock here on your home with the utes. We're going
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Speaker 2: to give you Morgan's individual part. All right. There was
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Speaker 2: media Q and a respect to my fellow media members
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Speaker 2: and to myself who were able to ask questions. I
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Speaker 2: don't think we added anything particularly remarkable to that thing.
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Speaker 2: We will get to some of that sound at some point,
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Speaker 2: but when you talk about winning the press conference, everybody
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Speaker 2: should look at Morgan Scalley's unscripted, unabashed, unfiltered thank you
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Speaker 2: basically for having this be his opportunity and his job.
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Speaker 2: The entirety of the sound is available at ESPN seven
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Speaker 2: hundred sports dot com in the on demand section of
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Speaker 2: our app. But here's Morgan scali from his introductory press
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Speaker 2: conference yesterday with his about fifteenish minutes of heartfelt statements.
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Speaker 3: The twenty fourth head coach of the University of football program,
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Speaker 3: mister Morgan SCALLEYCID.
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Speaker 4: Two things I want to clear up. I'm really not
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Speaker 4: that smart. They talk about my brains. I'm not that smart.
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Speaker 5: I've got a bigger heart than I do a brain.
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Speaker 4: I'm just grateful for people that have surrounded me that
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Speaker 4: make me look smart. And my best recruiting job is
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Speaker 4: sitting right here. I'm a baby. You're gonna see that today.
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Speaker 5: I'm a baby. But man or, our team's gonna rip
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Speaker 5: your face off. Okay.
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Speaker 4: And the second thing that was said is no one
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Speaker 4: prepares better than I do. I do not have a
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Speaker 4: prepared speech, so congratulations, so I'll be off the cuff.
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Speaker 4: I am grateful to my savior, Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 5: Not a shame to say that who sacrificed for me
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Speaker 5: has led me in this direction.
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Speaker 4: Didn't know that I really wanted to get into coaching,
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Speaker 4: and so I've led my life based on a belief
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Speaker 4: that he will lead me. He will guide me, and
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Speaker 4: based on the spirit. It has brought me to this
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Speaker 4: place where I can give and serve and love.
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Speaker 5: So grateful for this opportunity. My name is Ford Morgan Scally.
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Speaker 5: Some of you don't know. My first name's Ford.
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Speaker 4: Ford is my father's name, my grandfather's name, and I
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Speaker 4: always wanted to play here because of my dad grew up.
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Speaker 5: He played for Ray Nagel. You know, I was born
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Speaker 5: in the Wayne Howard years.
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Speaker 4: And Chuck Stobart after that, or I didn't really know
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Speaker 4: any I was too young. But once Fossil hit the ground,
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Speaker 4: that's when I was coming to games and I was
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Speaker 4: running the tunnels and I had my Little League jersey
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Speaker 4: on so I could get in for free.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 4: And I'm one of you, all of you that are
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Speaker 4: sitting in here that went through the same thing. I'm
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Speaker 4: a fan, I'm a ute, have been forever will be.
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Speaker 4: And when that time comes and I'm done, Okay, someone
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Speaker 4: else will step up.
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Speaker 5: I understand that. Okay.
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Speaker 4: It's not about me. It's not about one person, it
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Speaker 4: never will be, Okay. It is about these guys. It
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Speaker 4: is about the players, Okay. And players win championships. Teams
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Speaker 4: win championships, not into visuals. So while my name is
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Speaker 4: going to be out there and this is history and
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Speaker 4: I get it and I love it, it's all about.
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Speaker 2: The guys that I grew up watching.
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Speaker 4: Okay, And my dad is number one in getting me here, Bud,
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Speaker 4: I love you.
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Speaker 5: My middle name is Morgan.
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Speaker 4: That is my mom's maiden name, Claudia Jeane Morgan and
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Speaker 4: her father, Nick Morgan, was a huge, huge Ute supporter.
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Speaker 4: Here's the what Bleacher quarterbacks that he started. I guess
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Speaker 4: it was a forerunner for the Crimson Club. My grandfather
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Speaker 4: Nick passed away before I could even meet him, and
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Speaker 4: so one of these days I will meet him, and
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Speaker 4: he's watching right now, So Grandpa. I love you, Mom,
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Speaker 4: thank you, thank you for uh letting me do this.
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Speaker 5: She didn't want me to play potos y. I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I don't think you can do it. You know, yeah
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Speaker 5: you were wrong.
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Speaker 4: But you want to know where I get my crazy
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Speaker 4: side and you play it, john O. The singing, the dancing,
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Speaker 4: all that crazy crap I do, that's Claudia. Okay, that's
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Speaker 4: that's Claudia in the combination. My family, you know, all utes,
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Speaker 4: all utes. So grateful for you and and being there
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Speaker 4: for me, and the ones that sacrifice the most right
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Speaker 4: now that don't get to see Dad as much as
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Speaker 4: they would like, and the Jeane, Okay, Maddie, Andrew love
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Speaker 4: you guys.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna make this speck. You got me, okay, thank
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Speaker 5: you for letting me do this. Okay, So grateful.
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Speaker 4: Just had a family full of people that have helped
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Speaker 4: me along the way and just forgiven me for all
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Speaker 4: the crap I do, you know, And so this is
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Speaker 4: my history. I go, you know, I'm a ute, and
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Speaker 4: I was recruited by a guy by the name of
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Speaker 4: Ron McBride. I never thought I was going to get
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Speaker 4: an offer to the University of Utah. Don Eck was
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Speaker 4: the was a O line coach at the time, and
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Speaker 4: he came to Highland High School and you know, just
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Speaker 4: kept talking to Coach McBride. I like this kid. You
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Speaker 4: know what there was to like? I don't know, but
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Speaker 4: I waited and waited and waited, and Utah was the
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Speaker 4: only place I ever wanted to go. I didn't care
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Speaker 4: about any other scholarship offers. I didn't get many, uh,
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Speaker 4: and then Ron me up to the facility, which was
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Speaker 4: a shell of itself back then, but brought me up
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Speaker 4: to the facility, sat me down, offered me a scholarship,
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Speaker 4: and I'm sure wanted to say you think about it,
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Speaker 4: and I didn't allow him to say another word.
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Speaker 5: I said, I'm in. I'm in.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And just have had an unbelievable group of coaches
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Speaker 4: that have led me along my way from from from
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Speaker 4: high school on Tom Kingsford.
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Speaker 5: Larry Gelwick's, Larry Wilson.
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Speaker 4: I've had some really good coaches the summer here today.
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Speaker 5: And I love you. And Ron took a chance on me.
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Speaker 4: And you know, every time I'm going through something where
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Speaker 4: he can tell you know, Utah had a bad defensive game,
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Speaker 4: you know, this guy reaches out to me. And one
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Speaker 4: of the best recruiters, the best recruiter I've ever known. Okay,
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Speaker 4: love you and grateful for you. Ron recruited me as
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Speaker 4: a wide receiver. I was a running back in high school.
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Speaker 4: Wanted to be a running back, wanted to follow up
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Speaker 4: my dad. And that wasn't a good thing, okay, because
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Speaker 4: there was a lot of depth at running back at
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Speaker 4: the university who taught at the time. They switched me
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Speaker 4: to wide receiver and I wasn't I didn't learn how
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Speaker 4: to catch the ball off my hands.
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Speaker 5: I was a body catcher.
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Speaker 4: I went to the first spring workout, offseason workout. Ryan
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Speaker 4: Bresca was a quarterback and I started catching footballs from
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Speaker 4: Ryan Bresca, who if you knew Ryan Bresca, he threw
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Speaker 4: every ball like it was a fade, a five yard
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Speaker 4: hitch as far as you could throw it.
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Speaker 5: And he was awesome. He's a baseball player.
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Speaker 4: I came away from that practice so tattooed, bruised, and
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Speaker 4: I came home and my Mom's like, what did they
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Speaker 4: do to you? So I had to learn to be
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Speaker 4: a white receiver, and I don't know that I ended
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Speaker 4: up learning to be a good one. And there was
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Speaker 4: a coach there, Bill Bush, who saw something in me
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Speaker 4: as well. And grateful for Bill Bush for seeing having
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Speaker 4: a vision. You guys that we've asked to change positions, okay, Jackson, Benny, okay,
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Speaker 4: and we do it a lot here at the University
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Speaker 4: of Utah. I didn't want to change, okay. Bill Bush said,
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Speaker 4: you will be in All Conference safety and I laughed
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Speaker 4: at him, said there's no way. And I sat down
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Speaker 4: with Kyle Whittingham and he shared the vision as well.
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Speaker 4: And Kyle said, Morgan, we want you to play safety.
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Speaker 5: We think you could be an unbelievable one.
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Speaker 4: I said, Kyle, it's always been my dream to play
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Speaker 4: running back here to follow up my dad, He said, Morgan,
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Speaker 4: it's always been my dream to play centerfield for the Angels,
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Speaker 4: but that's not going to happen. Fair enough, I wish
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Speaker 4: I had made the change sooner because I loved the
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Speaker 4: safety position.
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Speaker 5: Kyle Whittingham.
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Speaker 4: Phil Bush allowed that to happen, made that happen, and
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Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham has given me chance after chance after chance
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Speaker 4: for my entire career. I love Kyle Winningham, and I
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Speaker 4: know he's going to be successful wherever he goes.
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Speaker 5: I know he's at Michigan, He's going to be amazing.
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Speaker 4: I'm grateful for the chances he's taken on me, from
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Speaker 4: mentoring me, tutoring me, breathing life into me when I
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Speaker 4: didn't necessarily love football.
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Speaker 5: And I was asked to change positions.
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Speaker 4: So I've had great coaches that have helped me understand
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Speaker 4: the beauty of this game. I don't believe at the
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Speaker 4: end of my life, God is going to ask me, Morgan,
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Speaker 4: why didn't you score more touchdowns? You know, why do
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Speaker 4: you win more games? He will ask me, how did
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Speaker 4: you serve? How did you did you love? Did you
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Speaker 4: honor your wife and your family? Did you take care
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Speaker 4: of them right? And so in the grand scheme of things,
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Speaker 4: this game is very insignificant, but the end of the day,
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Speaker 4: it is a very significant school and what it has
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Speaker 4: taught me about life and what it takes to be
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Speaker 4: successful in life. There are many titles that you men
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Speaker 4: will hold, and I know you know this by heart,
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Speaker 4: don't you, rabbit? Okay, And the number one title you
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Speaker 4: will hold will never have anything to do with football.
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Speaker 4: That title is father. And the goal here is to
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Speaker 4: create great ones. We will teach them skill sets and
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Speaker 4: mindsets in this game.
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Speaker 5: And if the only skill sets we teach.
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Speaker 4: Are how to become a better football player, we are
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Speaker 4: failing them because at some point, no one cares about
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Speaker 4: your forty time, No one cares about how high you
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Speaker 4: can jump.
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Speaker 5: That skill set runs out. There are so many more
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Speaker 5: things that we teach.
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Speaker 4: You, guys, right about what it takes to be successful
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Speaker 4: in life that go beyond the game the transferable.
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Speaker 5: That's why I coach.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm competitive, Yes I want to win every game
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Speaker 4: by fifty.
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Speaker 5: Yes, we're going to teach, We're going.
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Speaker 4: To scheme, and we're going to be the most innovative
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Speaker 4: and on the edge, on the cutting edge of being
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Speaker 4: the best. Okay, But we want you to become great men,
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Speaker 4: great fathers.
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Speaker 5: Don't we need my man?
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Speaker 4: I've been through a ton of transition here at the
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Speaker 4: University of Utah.
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Speaker 5: When we went from the Mount West Conference.
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Speaker 4: Okay, and we were playing and I remember playing in
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Speaker 4: front of I think fifteen thousand fans would have been
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Speaker 4: my sophomore year UNLV, and all of a sudden, you know,
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Speaker 4: incomes Urban Meyer, another guy that I love and respect
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Speaker 4: and infuses, you know, passion and energy and that stadium
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Speaker 4: when we played Cal in two thousand and three, when
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Speaker 4: the fire chief was like, what are you doing? This
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Speaker 4: is not right, it's illegal, Urban was like, I don't care,
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Speaker 4: and kind of it was amazing.
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Speaker 5: I still to this day.
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Speaker 4: In that game you had Alex Smith versus Aaron Rodgers. Okay,
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Speaker 4: and the running back for Cal fumbled in that game.
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Speaker 4: I picked it up and Aaron Rodgers tackled me. That's
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Speaker 4: my claim to fame. I have been tackled by a
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Speaker 4: future Hall of Famer. The fact that he's still playing now,
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Speaker 4: I don't get it. I don't get how he does it.
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Speaker 4: But watching him try and escape outside the other day,
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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, yeah, you can't do it. Bless
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Speaker 4: his heart, he can throw though canny and all of
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Speaker 4: a sudden, the passion and energy for football, and you
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Speaker 4: saw that, you know, when we go to the Fiesta
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Speaker 4: Bowl and all of a sudden, Kyle takes over and
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Speaker 4: you know, he does his thing.
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Speaker 5: He puts his own stamp on the program.
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Speaker 4: The Sugar Bowl that was my first year as a
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Speaker 4: full time coach in two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 5: We went undefeated. I'm like, this is easy, man, being
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Speaker 5: a coach.
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Speaker 4: And grateful for Derek odam Our, our new safety's coach.
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Speaker 4: Had Derek not left the program, I would not be
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Speaker 4: here because I took over for the safety spot. And
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Speaker 4: my wife was like, you've got your business degree, Okay,
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Speaker 4: figure it out, and so anyway, great, thank you Derek
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Speaker 4: for leaving. That's why I'm bringing you back. My man,
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Speaker 4: You're a stud. And then the transition into the Pac
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Speaker 4: twelve and it just has gotten better and better and better.
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Speaker 4: And the chance the goal now is playing in January,
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Speaker 4: getting the national championship. And I'm not ashamed to say
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Speaker 4: that we can do.
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Speaker 6: It here at the University of Utah.
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Speaker 4: We're gonna do it here at the University of Utah.
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Speaker 4: I always believe that. Don't know that I wanted to
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Speaker 4: be a coach, but again, the more I saw the
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Speaker 4: beauty of what is taught in this game, the more
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Speaker 4: I wanted to become a coach, and I love to
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Speaker 4: teach these guys.
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Speaker 5: Know this.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I talk too much, which is what you're getting
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Speaker 4: right now. But I hope that everyone understands what it's
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Speaker 4: going to take.
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Speaker 5: To get there.
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Speaker 4: It's going to take all of us, Okay, and then
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Speaker 4: some grateful for young men that buy in, that want
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Speaker 4: to be a part of a legacy, right, that want
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Speaker 4: to do this and do it the right way. We
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Speaker 4: are going to be smash mouth. We're going to score,
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Speaker 4: and we're going to play great defense. And I can't
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Speaker 4: wait to get this thing going. I've already done a
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Speaker 4: press conference. By the way, I don't know this is
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Speaker 4: like number two. I feel like Costanza, you know, we
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Speaker 4: want to know is like should I just go out
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Speaker 4: like on top?
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Speaker 5: You know, George Costanza, that whole thing.
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Speaker 4: But anyway, to the donors, to the boosters, the people
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Speaker 4: that have believed in me, Spence eckles Man.
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Speaker 5: Thank you for your belief in me. The Border Regis,
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Speaker 5: thank you for your belief in me.
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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna pour everything I have into.
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Speaker 5: This program and make you proud. Okay.
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Speaker 4: To President Randall, to Mark Harlan, to Jeff Rudy, you
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Speaker 4: guys that have been side by side helped me along
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Speaker 4: this transition.
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Speaker 5: Let's go do this. Let's go do it. Thank you
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Speaker 5: so much. Go use.
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Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley, your new head football coach at the University
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Speaker 2: of Utah. Mixed in a lot of emotion, a lot
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Speaker 2: of humor once you got to the Q, and a
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Speaker 2: a little bit more specific on the plans for how
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Speaker 2: he wants to do things, not just what he wants
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Speaker 2: to do, and of course, coach, he wants to win
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Speaker 2: a bunch of games. He wants to compete for national championships,
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Speaker 2: and he wants the fan base, the boat, the booster base,
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Speaker 2: everyone to believe that that that's possible at the University
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Speaker 2: of Utah. Look, I love Morgan Scalley. I've been very
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Speaker 2: transparent about that for years here on the show you
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Speaker 2: saw again yesterday. Why people love Morgan so much because
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Speaker 2: he is He does his very very best to not
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Speaker 2: ever like forget the little guy. He's the head coach
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Speaker 2: of his dream university, the place where he went as
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Speaker 2: a child to games, the place where he played, the
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Speaker 2: place where he cut his teeth as a coach, and
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Speaker 2: now the place where he is the head coach. And
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Speaker 2: he wanted to make sure that he thanked everyone who
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Speaker 2: helped him along the way. And yes, there were thousands
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Speaker 2: of names that were left out, but he made sure
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Speaker 2: he brought up as many as he could, and he paid.
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Speaker 2: He paid homage to Ron McBride, to Urban Meyer, to
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Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham, who maybe after today, today might be the
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Speaker 2: last day I put a tweet out about this. Today
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Speaker 2: might be the last day you hear me mention Kyle
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Speaker 2: Whittingham's name until football season begins again. We might give
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Speaker 2: him the Voldemort treatment here on the Sean O'Connell show,
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Speaker 2: he who shall not be named. He's a very powerful
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Speaker 2: wizard who now is not doing things to help out
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Speaker 2: the University of Utah. And yes, it's fascinating. It's interesting
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Speaker 2: to see our guy at Michigan, our guy at a
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Speaker 2: blue blood program. But he's not our guy anymore. So
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Speaker 2: I think we might just leave it out until. You know,
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Speaker 2: maybe we'll have to wait till the transfer portal closes,
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Speaker 2: because if a Utah player ends up going to Michigan,
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Speaker 2: we'll have to mention the fact that Kyle Whittingham is.
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Speaker 2: But we might just say he who shall not be named.
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Speaker 2: I might I might remember to do that, Is.
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Speaker 1: That the nickname we want to go with, or we
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Speaker 1: want to come up with something else. Well, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what else.
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Speaker 2: Aw it's the most appropriate analogy here from pop culture.
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Speaker 2: So we're not gonna gush about Kyle Whittingham. Everyone knows
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Speaker 2: how I feel about the legacy he leaves, and when
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Speaker 2: he retires, we'll have those conversations again. But right now
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Speaker 2: he's not retired. Right now he's an enemy of the
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Speaker 2: program instead of being the guy who establishes the program.
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Speaker 2: But either way, you heard Morgan Scalley talking about how
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Speaker 2: much he loved him yesterday, and I don't know what
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Speaker 2: that relationship is like right now. I truly don't. But
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Speaker 2: at one point, I mean, we used to make fun
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Speaker 2: of Spencer Tune and Morgan scally because Wit was their dad.
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Speaker 2: Is how we would say it on the team, like,
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, your dad because he loved those guys so
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Speaker 2: much they could do no wrong in his eyes. And
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Speaker 2: I mean, there was a lot of emotion in that
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Speaker 2: relationship back in those days, and I imagine some of
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Speaker 2: that luster comes off when you become co workers for
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Speaker 2: twenty years. But the mentor mentee relationship, I don't think
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Speaker 2: ever really goes away. And you saw how important that
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Speaker 2: particular type of relationship is to Morgan Scalley. At the
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Speaker 2: press conference yesterday, as he's going up onto the dais
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Speaker 2: for like the biggest moment of his professional life, he
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Speaker 2: makes sure that he stops Ron McBride sitting in front row.
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Speaker 2: He goes and he hugs Coach Mack and exchanges a
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Speaker 2: few words with Coach Mack. He he speaks with the
22:18
Speaker 2: Echoes family, and he made sure, like I said, to
22:21
Speaker 2: mention everyone who helped him along the way, Ryan Bresca.
22:24
Speaker 2: When's the last time you heard his name? Utah fans.
22:27
Speaker 2: Morgan's waxing poetic about these stories about what he was
22:32
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. Wanted to be a running back, Nope,
22:35
Speaker 2: can't do that. Wanted to be a wide receiver, Okay, fine,
22:37
Speaker 2: I'll do it. Nope, I'm gonna play safety. I guess
22:40
Speaker 2: because the coaches saw something in me. And he gave
22:42
Speaker 2: credit to coach Bush, who uh he Coach Bill Bush
22:47
Speaker 2: was on with Porter the other day. Yeah.
22:49
Speaker 1: Bill Bush has been a somewhat regular guest during during
22:55
Speaker 1: this football season with Spence and then he was on
22:57
Speaker 1: the pregame show. Yeah for the Vegas Ball just really
23:00
Speaker 1: really cool to see Morgan not only stepping into this
23:04
Speaker 1: role officially, I guess even more officially because he already
23:09
Speaker 1: coached a dang game, so he's want to know, uh
23:11
Speaker 1: Kraken jokes, letting the emotion show it's.
23:16
Speaker 2: He is a Utah man, all right. He is the
23:19
Speaker 2: Utah man. He is the if that's important to you, right?
23:23
Speaker 2: And I know that the x's and o's and the
23:24
Speaker 2: Jimmys and Joe's and all that stuff are going to
23:27
Speaker 2: be massively important to Utah football moving forward. And he's
23:29
Speaker 2: got to prove to people he can scheme the way
23:32
Speaker 2: we think he can, and he can recruit the way
23:34
Speaker 2: we think he can, and he hired the right people
23:36
Speaker 2: on his staff because all of those things are still
23:39
Speaker 2: at least partial question marks. But one thing that is
23:42
Speaker 2: not a question mark is that Morgan Scally is the
23:45
Speaker 2: right dude for this job. He is the quintessential Utah man.
23:51
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, I got a lot of
23:53
Speaker 2: heat yesterday because of the exercise we did on the
23:56
Speaker 2: show talking about how much money comes into play and
23:59
Speaker 2: how difficult it is to feel the competitive roster on
24:03
Speaker 2: a twenty ish million dollar budget and whether you like
24:06
Speaker 2: it or not, that's what Utah has to play with.
24:08
Speaker 2: Be mad at me if you want, but that's what
24:11
Speaker 2: Utah can pay this team. They've got about a twenty
24:14
Speaker 2: twenty one million dollars salary cap. And that's fine. And
24:18
Speaker 2: we talked about the ins and outs of that yesterday,
24:21
Speaker 2: and I know it can get a little bit monopoly
24:23
Speaker 2: for people, and some folks don't like that version of
24:25
Speaker 2: the college football landscape. And so you know, you let
24:28
Speaker 2: me know. And I appreciate the feedback as always eight
24:31
Speaker 2: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. But I
24:34
Speaker 2: was really relieved, almost refreshed, borderline grateful as a media
24:40
Speaker 2: member when yesterday we got for that twenty minute span,
24:44
Speaker 2: thirty minute span where Morgan Scalley's talking, you got to
24:47
Speaker 2: just kind of like drink the kool aid instead of
24:49
Speaker 2: being like, oh, well this the reality is, this is
24:52
Speaker 2: what's difficult. The reality is you got BYU down there,
24:56
Speaker 2: you got Texas Tech over there, you got Oregon that
24:59
Speaker 2: loves to recruit in this state of Utah. You got
25:01
Speaker 2: all these things that you're up against. For a brief,
25:05
Speaker 2: blessed half an hour, you were just focused on Morgan
25:09
Speaker 2: Scalley and the idealism and the confidence and the optimism
25:14
Speaker 2: of what that guy thinks Utah football can be and
25:16
Speaker 2: he wants to build it in his image. And of
25:19
Speaker 2: course in his image is like a conglomerate. It's a
25:24
Speaker 2: voltron of mighty morphin power, rangers, morphin time. It's everybody
25:30
Speaker 2: that has been foundational piece to this program has built
25:34
Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley. The sculptors of Morgan Scalley are the sculptors
25:41
Speaker 2: of modern day Utah football. There's no disconnect between those
25:45
Speaker 2: two things. Ron mcpride had his influence, Urban Meyer had
25:49
Speaker 2: his influence. Kyle Whittingham had probably the greatest influence. Wait,
25:53
Speaker 2: I thought we weren't saying his name anymore. No, no,
25:56
Speaker 2: after today, after today, I already said it today. Got
26:00
Speaker 2: all of these people are the like the I don't
26:05
Speaker 2: know if ronmy bride got the clay and put it
26:08
Speaker 2: down and started. You know, if you ever took that
26:10
Speaker 2: class in high school, started the wheel going, splashed the
26:13
Speaker 2: water on and just you got that big lump that
26:16
Speaker 2: you have to you gotta use a little muscle and
26:18
Speaker 2: you gotta start to form it, and it's gonna and
26:22
Speaker 2: then it starts to give way. And then Morgan obviously
26:26
Speaker 2: played for Urban and Urban man, it felt like a
26:29
Speaker 2: finished product, right Urban shaping that clay into this beautiful
26:33
Speaker 2: vase or a bold you get a little fluting and
26:35
Speaker 2: whatever else. It's like, holy cow, look at this. And
26:39
Speaker 2: then of course Morgan Scalley done as a player, has
26:44
Speaker 2: experienced those heavy influences. And during that time, Went of
26:48
Speaker 2: course was his coordinator and arguably, I think inarguably actually
26:55
Speaker 2: had an even greater influence on him. And then that's
26:59
Speaker 2: who you go work for for twenty years. So the
27:03
Speaker 2: people that created what you know of Utah football, the
27:08
Speaker 2: thing you're proud of about Utah football, those people also
27:14
Speaker 2: created Morgan scali And Morgan scally now gets his turn
27:19
Speaker 2: to give us his version of Utah football. And you
27:22
Speaker 2: could see it yesterday how much it means to him.
27:25
Speaker 2: You could see how grateful he was for it. And
27:28
Speaker 2: I was so happy to at least, you know, I
27:32
Speaker 2: probably was putting the crimson goggles on because we're in
27:34
Speaker 2: that room and there's balloons everywhere and everyone's wearing a
27:37
Speaker 2: ute shirt. But when he says, look, man, we're gonna
27:42
Speaker 2: do the culture thing. And if somebody wants to leave.
27:45
Speaker 2: He was transparent about it, so refreshing. Again, He's like,
27:49
Speaker 2: does it hurt when a guy, a good football player
27:53
Speaker 2: wants to leave enters a transfer portal. He's talking about
27:56
Speaker 2: John Henry Daily, he's talking about Smith Noden, He's talking
27:59
Speaker 2: about Don Saunders, who announced he's going into the transfer
28:02
Speaker 2: portal today. He says, yeah, it sucks, especially when you've
28:05
Speaker 2: poured into those young men. But and this is the
28:09
Speaker 2: most important part when he says, but it wipes away
28:14
Speaker 2: all of the money, stuff, all of the I don't
28:17
Speaker 2: know how many reps you're gonna get, stuff, all of
28:19
Speaker 2: the but this team also wants you stuff. But I
28:23
Speaker 2: want to win with guys who want to be here.
28:25
Speaker 2: And will that be smooth and pretty? Will that be
28:29
Speaker 2: a seamless transition?
28:31
Speaker 7: No?
28:31
Speaker 2: Hell no. But guess what, Morgan Scalley's gonna do it
28:34
Speaker 2: his way, and he's gonna do it the way that
28:38
Speaker 2: Ron and Urban and Kyle did it with his own flavor.
28:44
Speaker 2: You don't have to abandon all of this three decade
28:49
Speaker 2: building process that you've watched. If they had hired from
28:54
Speaker 2: outside the building, I'd be like, man, what do we
28:59
Speaker 2: know about this guy? I'm sure that person would have
29:01
Speaker 2: come in and would have won the press conference too,
29:03
Speaker 2: would have said all the right things. We're gonna be physical,
29:06
Speaker 2: all right, we want people who want to be here.
29:09
Speaker 2: But I'd have been skeptical. I'd have been I don't know,
29:12
Speaker 2: does this person really knows what he's getting himself into.
29:15
Speaker 2: With Morgan scally we know that he knows exactly what
29:20
Speaker 2: he's getting himself into. He knows in intimate detail the difficulties,
29:26
Speaker 2: the benefits, the blessings of this job, and he embraces
29:30
Speaker 2: all of them, nobody better equipped. I'm excited for it.
29:36
Speaker 2: The support is there. After the press conference concluded, they
29:41
Speaker 2: had a little reception upstairs for the big time boosters.
29:44
Speaker 2: Morgan had a brief word with them, Mark Carlin had
29:48
Speaker 2: a brief word with them. And the enthusiasm in that room,
29:52
Speaker 2: the eagerness in that room, the buy in in that room,
29:56
Speaker 2: is just as important as the one that we saw
30:00
Speaker 2: from Morgan, from his staff, from the players that were
30:02
Speaker 2: at his introductory press conference, those people who unfortunately have
30:07
Speaker 2: way too much influence in power right now in college football,
30:10
Speaker 2: those people are excited that Morgan Scalley is the head coach.
30:13
Speaker 2: And that's something for all of us to be optimistic about,
30:16
Speaker 2: excited about as you tough football followers. Maybe we'll have
30:21
Speaker 2: time today to get to more of the Q and
30:23
Speaker 2: a sound whatever. But wanted to make sure if you
30:26
Speaker 2: hadn't heard Morgan live yesterday, if you hadn't heard any replays,
30:29
Speaker 2: that you heard it right here on your home of
30:32
Speaker 2: the Utes, your new head coach, Morgan Scalley. He did
30:35
Speaker 2: not win the press conference. He he did like a
30:40
Speaker 2: seventy seven to zero victory over whatever press conference goblins
30:44
Speaker 2: can be out there. He had everyone laughing, He had
30:47
Speaker 2: everyone crying, He had everyone wanted to run through a wall.
30:51
Speaker 2: He checked every possible box you could for the gathered media,
30:56
Speaker 2: for the boosters, for the supporters, for the long time fans,
31:00
Speaker 2: for the folks who were sitting back skeptical and saying,
31:03
Speaker 2: I don't know, does this guy really is he really
31:05
Speaker 2: gonna play the kind of football I want? He checked
31:08
Speaker 2: every dang box. He's a baby, but his team's gonna
31:14
Speaker 2: rip your face off, print it on a T shirt
31:18
Speaker 2: and give me an extra large when he did it
31:21
Speaker 2: all off the cuff. Oh see, he didn't write any
31:25
Speaker 2: of this down. The best part of all of it
31:28
Speaker 2: was the pure authenticity of it, and the fact that
31:32
Speaker 2: that moment that he's been building toward for Morgan's what
31:37
Speaker 2: forty six years old, something like that, He's been building
31:40
Speaker 2: towards this for forty years in his own mind. Bill
31:43
Speaker 2: Riley said it great. Bill was the Masters ceremonies. He said,
31:46
Speaker 2: you know, this today is one of those special days
31:48
Speaker 2: where you get to see somebody's dream come true. That's
31:52
Speaker 2: what you got to watch. How often do you get
31:54
Speaker 2: to watch that? To be there in the building, to
31:58
Speaker 2: watch the guy stand up at the and he's probably
32:01
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a prepared statement, he doesn't have a
32:03
Speaker 2: written speech, but he's probably got some idea how he
32:05
Speaker 2: wants to start that thing. And then he looks down
32:07
Speaker 2: at his family and he starts crying. Because that's what matters.
32:13
Speaker 2: It was beautiful. I'm all in. I will not be
32:17
Speaker 2: in the way. Neither will Sammy Morris. She's a UTAI insider.
32:21
Speaker 2: She's gonna join us. Next, it's The Shawan O'Connell Show
32:24
Speaker 2: on ESPN seven ninetye FM.
32:28
Speaker 5: Good you tune to.
32:33
Speaker 8: The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of
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Speaker 8: ESPN seven hundred and ninety one AM.
32:49
Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
32:52
Speaker 2: one FM. It's a Wednesday. We welcome Samy mora Utah
32:57
Speaker 2: Insider Wow the second time in like eight days. Sammy,
33:02
Speaker 2: welcome back to the show. How are you.
33:04
Speaker 9: I'm good, OC, how are you?
33:06
Speaker 2: What a great pleasure to have you on again. Saw
33:09
Speaker 2: you up at the press conference because you're one of
33:11
Speaker 2: the hard working folks who are close to all things Utah.
33:15
Speaker 2: For Morgan scally to sit down, unscripted give us fifteen
33:20
Speaker 2: minutes of very heartfelt, off the cuff comments. What was
33:23
Speaker 2: the thing that stuck out most for you or you
33:26
Speaker 2: walked away from that press conference and couldn't stop thinking about.
33:31
Speaker 9: I think just with the way that Morgan approached everything.
33:35
Speaker 9: I know, like he even said, like the reason why
33:37
Speaker 9: he didn't have a pre written speech is because of
33:40
Speaker 9: everything that's been going on, you know, building an entire
33:43
Speaker 9: coaching stuff out in what for five four or five
33:47
Speaker 9: days for him, he put in work in the transfer
33:50
Speaker 9: portal that morning. There were three commitments that came down
33:53
Speaker 9: roster attention. You know, I think the I think the
33:56
Speaker 9: biggest thing for me is I think, you know, Utah
33:58
Speaker 9: fans should be happy and should be excited to have
34:01
Speaker 9: someone who has dreamed about this his entire life to
34:04
Speaker 9: be the head coach at Utah to finally be in
34:07
Speaker 9: that role. I mean, you know, the way the passion
34:10
Speaker 9: that he spoke about, you know, his days growing up
34:12
Speaker 9: at Rice Stadium, and the way that he talks about
34:15
Speaker 9: you know, working with Urban, playing, working with Kyle, playing
34:19
Speaker 9: under all of them, all those types of things, Like,
34:22
Speaker 9: I think that's a big thing for me. And I
34:23
Speaker 9: even said on on us Zone dot Com, I said
34:26
Speaker 9: that there were so many things that Morgan that I
34:29
Speaker 9: could have written about from that press conference, but the
34:31
Speaker 9: three that stood out to me the most were physicality, innovation,
34:34
Speaker 9: and family. I think that's the three things that I
34:37
Speaker 9: came away with, plus the iconic quote of I'm a baby,
34:41
Speaker 9: but our team's gonna rip your face off or however
34:43
Speaker 9: he phrased it. Like, I think that there was just
34:45
Speaker 9: so much that you could take for Morgan's press conference.
34:47
Speaker 9: I feel like there was something for almost every single
34:50
Speaker 9: Utah fan in that presser.
34:52
Speaker 2: So we're gonna We've decided we're going to give Wit
34:55
Speaker 2: the Voldemort treatment on this show after today because we
34:58
Speaker 2: talk about him too much and he gone, so we
35:00
Speaker 2: just need to let him be gone. But I think
35:04
Speaker 2: part of the reason why that felt so interesting was
35:08
Speaker 2: how different it was from when Kyle Whittingham sat down
35:11
Speaker 2: in front of a microphone and talked like Morgan. It
35:15
Speaker 2: was I mean, he kept going, he would volunteer information
35:19
Speaker 2: that nobody asked for, and I know that that won't
35:22
Speaker 2: stay forever as he's the head coach, but he was
35:25
Speaker 2: completely unfiltered and unguarded in that situation. And unfortunately, that
35:30
Speaker 2: communication style was the trademark of Kyle Whittingham. He wasn't
35:33
Speaker 2: going to give you anything more than you absolutely ripped
35:36
Speaker 2: out of him. So is that part of the reason
35:39
Speaker 2: why it felt like such a breath of fresh air
35:40
Speaker 2: in your mind?
35:42
Speaker 9: Well, I think that's exactly it, because again I even
35:45
Speaker 9: said on our message board, I said that there was
35:47
Speaker 9: just so much that I could write from and it
35:51
Speaker 9: was a delightful change, is how I phrased it. Because
35:53
Speaker 9: it's like sometimes with Kyle's presser, I would be, you know,
35:57
Speaker 9: trying to scrape together four hundred words on what I
36:00
Speaker 9: could what I could say about it, But with Morgan,
36:02
Speaker 9: I wrote eight hundred words, No problem talking about this
36:05
Speaker 9: press conference, and I like, like you said, like things
36:08
Speaker 9: can change and stuff, but I think that, you know,
36:10
Speaker 9: it really does show that there's there's a new there's
36:13
Speaker 9: a new command on the hill and there's a new
36:16
Speaker 9: commander in chief. Is how how I'm going to put it?
36:19
Speaker 9: And you know, I think that things are going to
36:20
Speaker 9: be different. It's going to be interesting to see how
36:22
Speaker 9: things happened.
36:23
Speaker 7: I did.
36:24
Speaker 9: I did get a little smile and chuckle out of
36:25
Speaker 9: Bill Riley at the end, saying, Okay, Morgan, open up
36:28
Speaker 9: spring practices. We'd love to see you, because I think
36:30
Speaker 9: that's something else that like a lot of fans have
36:32
Speaker 9: been asking and I think that, you know, it's going
36:34
Speaker 9: to be interesting to see how things go. But you know,
36:37
Speaker 9: it was really it was. It did feel like a
36:38
Speaker 9: breath of fresh air. And I left feeling like I
36:41
Speaker 9: was going to run through a wall for Morgan. And
36:43
Speaker 9: I have never put on a pair of pads in
36:46
Speaker 9: my life, and I have no intention to because I
36:48
Speaker 9: am five two.
36:49
Speaker 2: So hey, you know what, there there's there's a spot
36:53
Speaker 2: for everyone. You could kick I'm sure, uh.
36:56
Speaker 9: Say, I played SLocker, I can punt a football. I've
36:59
Speaker 9: punted I think.
37:00
Speaker 2: Like that that's something I can't do. So you're you're
37:03
Speaker 2: ahead of the game, all right, So trying to get
37:06
Speaker 2: into more of the details of you know, besides just
37:09
Speaker 2: the overall sentiment and the feeling which he won everybody
37:13
Speaker 2: in that room over, even if they were all there
37:16
Speaker 2: to support him, anyone who is kind of like on
37:19
Speaker 2: the fence no longer can be after you know, his
37:22
Speaker 2: his statements. But then open it up to questions, and
37:26
Speaker 2: people were asking, I think some of the right things
37:28
Speaker 2: about like well, what about these transfer portal situations, and
37:31
Speaker 2: what about the actual x's and o's, what about your
37:34
Speaker 2: your team identity? Did anything stand out for you there?
37:38
Speaker 2: You already said the innovation, what do you think that
37:40
Speaker 2: really looks like?
37:42
Speaker 9: Well, I think that, you know, the thing that stood
37:45
Speaker 9: out was you know, I know there was a lot
37:47
Speaker 9: of concern and question about Kevin that given when he
37:50
Speaker 9: got hired on what was it, Saturday. I know there
37:54
Speaker 9: were people like, well, he's from Utah State, Like what
37:56
Speaker 9: the heck, why are we doing this? Like this isn't
37:58
Speaker 9: a home run higher all these things, but Morgan saying like,
38:01
Speaker 9: if you actually watch the film, like and if you
38:04
Speaker 9: actually understand football, you'll see that what Kevin does is very,
38:08
Speaker 9: very innovative and it's very hard for defenses to scheme against.
38:12
Speaker 9: And the thing is is, I think that I know
38:14
Speaker 9: this is like a sweeping statement, but like the fact
38:16
Speaker 9: that Morgan also said that he had a hand in
38:18
Speaker 9: Jason beck higher and confirm that, I think is also
38:21
Speaker 9: really really important because it shows that like Morgan knows
38:25
Speaker 9: as a former defensive coordinator, Morgan knows what is hard
38:28
Speaker 9: to scheme against for an offense, like for like he
38:33
Speaker 9: sitting in the pract in like the in the coach's room,
38:36
Speaker 9: he watches Jason's bets offense and you see all the
38:38
Speaker 9: emotions and you see everything that's moving. You don't know
38:40
Speaker 9: what you need to focus on defending because of how
38:42
Speaker 9: complicated it is. And I think that him saying that
38:44
Speaker 9: mcgiven's kind of the same way, I think should be
38:48
Speaker 9: very encouraging for Utah fans. And I think that was
38:50
Speaker 9: it was really great to hear more than just his
38:52
Speaker 9: his statement that we had in his presser, is in
38:55
Speaker 9: his press release about it, that we actually heard him
38:57
Speaker 9: say about how innovative mcgiven is and how different in
39:02
Speaker 9: his offense is, but how similar it's going to be
39:04
Speaker 9: to what we saw last year.
39:06
Speaker 2: Another interesting thing for me, and I think Morgan alluded
39:09
Speaker 2: to this, but players that were in attendance and some
39:11
Speaker 2: of the other people that were around there was a
39:14
Speaker 2: conversation about how involved everyone stayed through this transition. How
39:20
Speaker 2: you know, Morgan's not the type of guy that needs
39:23
Speaker 2: to ask permission for anything, but how many folks he
39:27
Speaker 2: bent their ear and he asked what they thought about
39:31
Speaker 2: this particular thing. You know, like players included, Hey, what
39:35
Speaker 2: do you think of this guy? Hey, what do you
39:36
Speaker 2: think of running this type of system? Hey do you
39:39
Speaker 2: want somebody who's like back? Do you want somebody who's
39:43
Speaker 2: totally different? It just I don't know how much you
39:47
Speaker 2: can continue to put that into practice when you're in
39:49
Speaker 2: charge of every decision. But the fact that he's crowdsourcing
39:53
Speaker 2: some of those important things, even in such a hectic time,
39:56
Speaker 2: I thought was really interesting.
39:58
Speaker 9: Well, also, I think that I've heard a lot that
40:02
Speaker 9: Morgan is going to be a player's coach, and I
40:05
Speaker 9: think that, you know, bouncing things off of everybody like
40:08
Speaker 9: we heard yesterday, I think that that's proving that he
40:11
Speaker 9: is a player's coach. You know, in today's world of
40:14
Speaker 9: college football and how things can change on a dime
40:17
Speaker 9: with the portal and stuff like that. I think you
40:18
Speaker 9: need to have a coach who is willing to, you know,
40:23
Speaker 9: hear feedback from his players. I know, I know that's
40:25
Speaker 9: probably not a popular opinion, but I think it's important
40:28
Speaker 9: to a certain extent, you know. And so I think
40:30
Speaker 9: that having you know, he talked about dev, he talked
40:33
Speaker 9: about Bird, he talked about JJ, he talked about Wayshawn,
40:36
Speaker 9: he talks about Bray like you talked about all of
40:37
Speaker 9: these key pieces on the offense. I think that that's,
40:40
Speaker 9: you know, important, because at the end of the day,
40:43
Speaker 9: what is a signal caller if they don't have players
40:46
Speaker 9: that can fill the roles that they need, And it's
40:48
Speaker 9: Utah has those players. And so I think that that
40:51
Speaker 9: was a big thing. Is that it's I think it's
40:52
Speaker 9: further insinuating that Morgan is a player's coach. And I
40:55
Speaker 9: think that there's going to be a whole different vibe
40:57
Speaker 9: on the Hill.
40:57
Speaker 4: Now.
40:58
Speaker 7: I'm mixed.
40:58
Speaker 9: I think it's safe to say the amount of former
41:01
Speaker 9: players and former coaches and former everything that was at
41:04
Speaker 9: that press conference tomorrow or yesterday, I think there's gonna
41:07
Speaker 9: be a lot more people on the Hill that we
41:10
Speaker 9: might not have seen in the last few years. So
41:12
Speaker 9: I think that's also something that needs to be acknowledged
41:15
Speaker 9: that Morgan's gonna bring, Like he's reinvigorating that family culture
41:19
Speaker 9: of once a ute, always a ute.
41:23
Speaker 2: The fact that Morgan mentioned Devin, Dan Pier and Bird
41:27
Speaker 2: Fickland by name in his introductory press conference could be
41:32
Speaker 2: seen a lot of different ways. Is there anything that
41:35
Speaker 2: you read into that.
41:38
Speaker 9: I mean, it's hard. Like the thing is is like
41:41
Speaker 9: we've all heard certain things about both of them, and
41:44
Speaker 9: I think that he's you know, planning to have I mean,
41:47
Speaker 9: Bird already signed his deal, and I know with the
41:50
Speaker 9: whole demand Williams saying, now people are like, see, kids
41:53
Speaker 9: can get out of their contracts and stuff. But like,
41:56
Speaker 9: you know, Bird's doing a meet and greet on SATD.
42:00
Speaker 9: I don't see him doing a meet and greet and
42:01
Speaker 9: then meeting a bunch of Utah fans and helping build
42:04
Speaker 9: that Utah culture and then immediately going into the portal. Devin,
42:08
Speaker 9: you know, he's been a little bit quiet, but I
42:10
Speaker 9: know that, you know, Morgan said postgame, I think it
42:12
Speaker 9: was with Bill that Devin has been dealing with a
42:14
Speaker 9: groin injury, like probably recovering from that and stuff. So
42:17
Speaker 9: there's a lot of things. There's a lot of reasons
42:18
Speaker 9: why we haven't heard from guys, But at the end
42:21
Speaker 9: of the day, I'm not I'm not putting too much
42:24
Speaker 9: stock into anything right now in terms of guys leaving
42:27
Speaker 9: and stuff, because my thing is, if they really weren't
42:30
Speaker 9: happy with the hires that were in place, why didn't
42:33
Speaker 9: they hit the portal the second that the hires were announced, or.
42:36
Speaker 2: Even before if they saw writing on the wall. I mean,
42:39
Speaker 2: a lot of people were making their intentions known before
42:42
Speaker 2: the transfer portal was immediately open. And I'm with you,
42:45
Speaker 2: and I suggested that on the show yesterday, like, Hey,
42:48
Speaker 2: I mean all of this uncertainty that we think that
42:53
Speaker 2: you're dealing with with new coaches, somewhat unproven coaches in
42:56
Speaker 2: certain spots that the people most affected by that, the
43:01
Speaker 2: players seem their actions make it look like they're pretty
43:05
Speaker 2: confident it's all going to work out. Well.
43:07
Speaker 9: Yeah, And like literally, as we're having this conversation with Sean,
43:10
Speaker 9: Parker just announced on his Instagram that he resigned with Utah.
43:14
Speaker 9: So there's one thing that's been one looming decision that
43:17
Speaker 9: has been checked off the checklist for Morgan, and you know,
43:22
Speaker 9: getting way back is massive. You know, he's twelve yards
43:24
Speaker 9: away from a thousand yard season. You know, him and
43:27
Speaker 9: Autuaya are so close, and that's important. That's an important
43:32
Speaker 9: relationship that doesn't get talked about enough. And so you know,
43:35
Speaker 9: locking and running back one, you know, that kind of
43:37
Speaker 9: means that you know, more dominoes should be falling soon.
43:40
Speaker 9: But it's it's going to be really interesting and I'm excited.
43:43
Speaker 9: I'm excited to see how things are going to transfer out,
43:45
Speaker 9: are not transfer out, but translate in the next couple
43:47
Speaker 9: of days. Plus you know, Utah's already doing work in
43:50
Speaker 9: the portal. So I think that you know Morgan has
43:53
Speaker 9: is it's going to be another thing of reloading, of reloading,
43:56
Speaker 9: not rebuilding. I think that's the big thing that I
43:58
Speaker 9: have been telling our subs on you it's it's it's
44:01
Speaker 9: a reload, not a rebuild. And and that's what it
44:04
Speaker 9: looks like, you know, and that's always what Utah has been.
44:07
Speaker 9: So we'll see how things shake out.
44:09
Speaker 2: You alluded to this the guys, what it was three
44:11
Speaker 2: commitments from the transfer portal yesterday. Uh, the Wyoming de
44:16
Speaker 2: tackle really like what I've seen from him. Uh, you
44:18
Speaker 2: got a guy from North Texas? Who are you most
44:22
Speaker 2: intrigued by? From the three new editions out of the
44:25
Speaker 2: portal yesterday.
44:27
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna get Oh see, it's me
44:31
Speaker 9: and my cop out answers. I'm going to go with
44:32
Speaker 9: both Ethan Day, the defensive end from North Texas, and
44:35
Speaker 9: Lucas Lamsulo, the defensive tackle from Wyoming. Day really broke
44:40
Speaker 9: out last year from North Texas, and we all know
44:42
Speaker 9: North Texas was, you know, right in those conversations for playoffs.
44:46
Speaker 9: He broke out. He looks to be a replacement for
44:50
Speaker 9: someone like Gage d or even so, someone who can
44:52
Speaker 9: push guys like Lansfoltzklawn Cash Dylan to hit that next
44:57
Speaker 9: that next level of their game. So I'm excited for him.
45:00
Speaker 9: And then Sam Sulla also, we've we've been missing big
45:03
Speaker 9: bodies in that defensive tackle room. He's six four, three
45:06
Speaker 9: oh six. That's another that's a big space eater. He
45:09
Speaker 9: didn't have a lot of stats this year at Wyoming,
45:11
Speaker 9: but if you go back and watch the Utah and
45:13
Speaker 9: Wyoming game last year, like he has a very very
45:17
Speaker 9: very high motor, and I think that that's what this
45:20
Speaker 9: defensive tackle in the room needed. You needed someone who
45:22
Speaker 9: was going to eat up space, and you needed somebody
45:24
Speaker 9: who was going to have that high motor on the
45:26
Speaker 9: on the tackle, kind of kind of like Aliki a
45:28
Speaker 9: Leaky had that high motor and he also was eating
45:31
Speaker 9: up space and he was eating up blocks. So it's
45:33
Speaker 9: gonna I think those two are really great. Wimberley obviously,
45:36
Speaker 9: Marcus Wimberly, the Oklahoma transfer. He's a true freshman, retro freshman,
45:39
Speaker 9: so he has a couple of years to to, you know,
45:41
Speaker 9: settle into things. But pro Morgan Scaley recruited him out
45:45
Speaker 9: of high school for a reason. He's a hard hitting safety.
45:47
Speaker 9: He's very much cut from that cloth of you know,
45:53
Speaker 9: Scaley safety's hard hitting nose for the ball, sound tackler,
45:57
Speaker 9: those types of things. But you know, it's gonna be
45:59
Speaker 9: in interesting, it's going to be exciting. I think that
46:01
Speaker 9: there's there's a lot more movement that's going to happen
46:04
Speaker 9: in the portal that's going to go Utah's way, and
46:07
Speaker 9: I think fans are going to be excited with some
46:08
Speaker 9: of the additions that could possibly come to Salt Lake.
46:12
Speaker 2: Will we get to watch more of practice now that
46:14
Speaker 2: Morgan scalley' is the head coach?
46:17
Speaker 9: I hope so, oh see, I really really really hope.
46:20
Speaker 9: So I miss the days of watching practice. To be fair,
46:25
Speaker 9: When I first started covering Utah, I was twenty nineteen
46:27
Speaker 9: and I was a student up at the Youth so
46:29
Speaker 9: there still wasn't a lot of access. But you know,
46:33
Speaker 9: I'm born and raised here. I've went to many a
46:36
Speaker 9: fair share of Utah practices when I was little back
46:39
Speaker 9: in you know, the Jordan Wynn era. I remember going
46:43
Speaker 9: to practice on Saturdays, going to scrimmages during spring. So
46:46
Speaker 9: it's like there's a lot of good in it. And like,
46:48
Speaker 9: even if you want to turn it into a you know,
46:51
Speaker 9: nil rev share type thing, charge fans five bucks that
46:55
Speaker 9: come watch a scrimmage, there are so many football ciccos
46:58
Speaker 9: out here in Utah that would spend the five dollars
47:01
Speaker 9: to go watch the scrimmage on a random Saturday in April.
47:03
Speaker 2: I have been saying the same thing for years. You
47:06
Speaker 2: want you want to limit your access but maximize your revenue. Fine,
47:10
Speaker 2: put up a paywall and let people watch practice like
47:15
Speaker 2: you're not giving away any secrets. You're not. I'm sorry.
47:18
Speaker 2: The every NFL practice is open to the public. Their
47:20
Speaker 2: whole training camp. You can go watch. You're not gonna
47:23
Speaker 2: give away any secrets. There are no secrets in the business.
47:26
Speaker 2: They're watching your film. Okay. Anyway, I think we do
47:29
Speaker 2: get more access. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for it.
47:32
Speaker 2: I will be seeing you around, I will be seeing
47:34
Speaker 2: you soon. We'll be calling you again after the transfer
47:37
Speaker 2: portal closes and we have a real picture what the
47:39
Speaker 2: roster looks like heading into spring.
47:40
Speaker 9: All right, all right, thanks Lucie, Sami.
47:44
Speaker 2: Mora manage you get it or over at you zone.
47:47
Speaker 2: She's great at the job, as are most of the
47:50
Speaker 2: folks on that Utah beat. Saw them up there at
47:52
Speaker 2: the presser yesterday, and even even hey, James, just so
47:57
Speaker 2: you know, even some of our Utah insiders were like,
47:59
Speaker 2: what the heck are you doing with this money thing?
48:01
Speaker 7: Man?
48:01
Speaker 2: You got that number wrong. It's like, okay, all right,
48:04
Speaker 2: I got that, So I was wrong on the running
48:06
Speaker 2: back number. But hey, the most important thing that we
48:09
Speaker 2: just learned way Shawn Parker on his own socials said
48:14
Speaker 2: he's a Utah man moving forward. That's great. News.
48:18
Speaker 1: Let's go and also like, so you mean we were
48:22
Speaker 1: wrong when we were completely guessing what man we were Oh,
48:25
Speaker 1: why why are you being so wrong about it?
48:27
Speaker 2: When we were clearly stating that we were basing our
48:29
Speaker 2: hypotheticals on a an article proposed by the athletic It
48:34
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with anything the University of He
48:37
Speaker 2: does says, of course we were a little bit wrong. Okay,
48:40
Speaker 2: We're okay with that. Sean O'Connell show on ESPN seven
48:45
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety twe FFM. All right. I got a
48:46
Speaker 2: question for you out there. I put a poll question
48:49
Speaker 2: up about this at relo C Sports if you want
48:51
Speaker 2: to vote on it. How would you like Utah to
48:56
Speaker 2: handle players who sign a contract with the youth and
49:01
Speaker 2: then maybe decide no, I want to do something else.
49:05
Speaker 2: This is happening for the University of Washington right now,
49:08
Speaker 2: and it is one of the big stories in the
49:10
Speaker 2: country at the moment. How would you like to see
49:14
Speaker 2: the US handle this? We'll discuss that next on the
49:16
Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show ESPN seven hundred and ninety two ONEFM.
49:24
Speaker 8: You were listening to a Sean O'Connell show from the
49:26
Speaker 8: Murdoch Hunting Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
49:31
Speaker 8: to one a half am.
49:35
Speaker 2: Damon Williams, Washington quarterback, reportedly signed a new deal with
49:43
Speaker 2: the University of Washington four days ago, a deal that
49:50
Speaker 2: is being told We're being told is somewhere near the
49:52
Speaker 2: top of the quarterback market. We talked a lot about
49:54
Speaker 2: what the top of the quarterback market is yesterday. Five
49:58
Speaker 2: million is the biggest number we've heard, definitively for Soresby
50:02
Speaker 2: going to Texas Tech. There were reports out there that
50:06
Speaker 2: Arch Manning is like the six million dollar guy that
50:09
Speaker 2: Sam Levit is seeking anywhere from five to seven million.
50:12
Speaker 2: Sam Levitt is this year's Nico. By the way, Sam Levitt,
50:16
Speaker 2: the Arizona State quarterback, is this year's Nico. Malayava who
50:21
Speaker 2: had a two million dollar deal from Tennessee and was
50:24
Speaker 2: just like, no, I want more than that. In Tennessee
50:26
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, go try to get it. And
50:28
Speaker 2: he ended up playing for a much worse team for
50:30
Speaker 2: two million dollars. So Sam Levitt is out there looking
50:33
Speaker 2: for green or grass, and he's on this national tour
50:36
Speaker 2: and we've now seen three teams he's been reported to
50:39
Speaker 2: have signed with and he hasn't actually signed with anyone,
50:42
Speaker 2: So it's a mess.
50:43
Speaker 1: At least with Sam Levitt, he only held out of
50:46
Speaker 1: the team banquet and not spring football.
50:49
Speaker 2: He was at the LSU game, sitting next to the
50:53
Speaker 2: LSU basketball game, sitting next to Lane Kiffin. Like, unless
50:57
Speaker 2: that's an aiphoto, Lame Kiffin, you mean Lane Kiffin. I
51:01
Speaker 2: love what's happening to Lane Kiffin. By the way, we
51:03
Speaker 2: have not really we haven't really gotten deep into it.
51:05
Speaker 2: But Lane kiffen is losing more players than he's getting
51:09
Speaker 2: to follow him to LSU. You hate to see it
51:12
Speaker 2: for that guy.
51:13
Speaker 1: Also, even though he still will be financially, he still
51:17
Speaker 1: is financially benefiting from this success that Ole Miss has.
51:21
Speaker 1: It's gotta be a tough perception thing to see, Hey, yeah,
51:27
Speaker 1: this team doesn't need you. They're on the doorstep of
51:30
Speaker 1: the National championship game without you. Anyway, Moving on.
51:34
Speaker 2: So, this Demon Williams story has like so many wrinkles
51:37
Speaker 2: to it, and some of them are really really unfortunate. One, obviously,
51:43
Speaker 2: you sign a deal with the team and then four
51:45
Speaker 2: days five days later you're like, no, I'm in the
51:47
Speaker 2: transfer portal with they do not contact Tag which usually
51:50
Speaker 2: means what it usually means. You've got a destination of mind.
51:54
Speaker 2: You've got a deal in place, and a lot of
51:56
Speaker 2: people are pointing lsu as that for Demon Williams. I
52:00
Speaker 2: don't know how much money it is. Let's say that
52:02
Speaker 2: it's three four million bucks, right, and then somebody comes
52:05
Speaker 2: and says, well, we'll give you more than that. How
52:07
Speaker 2: enforceable are these contracts? We have no idea what the
52:10
Speaker 2: language of the contract looks like. I'm not going to
52:11
Speaker 2: pretend I know what it looks like. But how would
52:14
Speaker 2: you want Utah to handle this? Right? We just heard
52:17
Speaker 2: wy Sean Parker will use him as a hypothetical, although
52:20
Speaker 2: I'm not putting any evil out there into the world.
52:21
Speaker 2: This is purely a hypothetical. Was Shaan Parker re signs
52:25
Speaker 2: at Utah right, announces it on a social media a
52:29
Speaker 2: Utah man am I We're all very happy about it.
52:31
Speaker 2: He was the Bell cow back at the end of
52:33
Speaker 2: the year. He'll start this next season as the Bell
52:35
Speaker 2: cow back. Whatever money he's getting, he deserves it. Okay,
52:40
Speaker 2: Let's say that somebody comes along that Lane Kiffin calls
52:43
Speaker 2: him like he did racing Gilroy and says, hey, I'll
52:47
Speaker 2: give you more and was Shaan Parker says, all right,
52:50
Speaker 2: I'm in the transfer portal. Now, how do you want
52:52
Speaker 2: YOUTA to handle that? Knowing what we just heard from
52:55
Speaker 2: Morgan Scally about we only want people who want to
52:58
Speaker 2: be here, we want people with buy in things like that.
53:01
Speaker 2: But this is a business transaction now as much as
53:04
Speaker 2: it is a principal type thing, and Washington reportedly plans
53:10
Speaker 2: on enforcing the contract. So my question on Twitter is,
53:16
Speaker 2: would you like Utah to just let a player go
53:18
Speaker 2: after resigning charge them a fine assuming you could legally
53:24
Speaker 2: do so in their contract? Oh, you're leaving after you
53:28
Speaker 2: resign with us? Okay, twenty percent of that has to
53:30
Speaker 2: come back to us. Fifty percent of that has to
53:32
Speaker 2: come back to US. One hundred percent has to come
53:34
Speaker 2: back to us. There's a buyout. You might have to
53:37
Speaker 2: start putting those into these nil deals. You got a
53:41
Speaker 2: revenue share from US? Oh, okay, you want to leave
53:44
Speaker 2: after you signed? There's a buyout. It's one dred percent
53:47
Speaker 2: certainly the revshare. You think that they probably could do
53:50
Speaker 2: something like that, And look, I don't know, I'm not
53:53
Speaker 2: a sports attorney right now, how would you want the
53:57
Speaker 2: team to handle it though, because you could also, oh,
54:00
Speaker 2: do what other teams have tried to do and just no,
54:02
Speaker 2: you gotta stay. We'll repair this relationship. We've seen this
54:06
Speaker 2: in the NFL. You want to leave, We're gonna fix
54:09
Speaker 2: this relationship. Let's stay. You can play in college football.
54:13
Speaker 2: You probably don't want somebody who doesn't want to be there,
54:15
Speaker 2: especially a freaking quarterback like Demon Williams if he wants
54:19
Speaker 2: to go. Washington kind of has to let him go.
54:22
Speaker 2: But what can they get back for him? What can
54:24
Speaker 2: they get in return? I don't know, I truly don't.
54:27
Speaker 2: And it sucks to see any team in that type
54:30
Speaker 2: of situation and a fan base that's like, oh, man,
54:34
Speaker 2: we got our guy and he's a good player. He's
54:36
Speaker 2: a really good player, and we should feel optimistic about
54:39
Speaker 2: his future. Well, the problem is now everybody else in
54:42
Speaker 2: college football feels optimistic about his future too, and they're
54:47
Speaker 2: The tampering is unabashed, the tomfoolery is unashamed, and coaches,
54:53
Speaker 2: especially Elaine Kiffin type, it's just like, what's the ntable
54:57
Speaker 2: gonna do to me? Shut up? Come on over, I'm
55:00
Speaker 2: scared of Jedfish in Washington. No, I'm not even scared
55:02
Speaker 2: of my own wife. I'm scared of anything. He's like,
55:07
Speaker 2: come over here and play. So how would you want
55:12
Speaker 2: Utah to handle it? My sincere hope is Utah doesn't
55:17
Speaker 2: have to handle these types of things. Bert Fickland is
55:20
Speaker 2: doing an autograph signing he is resigned. Way Sean Parker
55:25
Speaker 2: has re signed. These guys, These are the types of
55:28
Speaker 2: people that are enthusiastic about Morgan Scalley taking over. We
55:32
Speaker 2: have yet to hear from Devin Dampier, but I believe
55:35
Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley doesn't mention his name if he's worried that
55:38
Speaker 2: he's going somewhere.
55:39
Speaker 1: And I think what you mentioned, well, you mentioned yesterday,
55:45
Speaker 1: no news should be good news.
55:47
Speaker 2: No news is good news. Yeah, nine days left in
55:49
Speaker 2: the transfer portal window. A lot can happen in nine days.
55:53
Speaker 2: A lot can happen in ten minutes. Yeah. But for Washington,
55:58
Speaker 2: and we saw this with Nebraska. They had a quarterback
56:01
Speaker 2: that was committed, hadn't signed anything, he'd flipped, he'd committed,
56:04
Speaker 2: and then it was just like nope, pegne It can
56:07
Speaker 2: happen like this in this college football landscape, and it
56:11
Speaker 2: will happen like that. If your entire identity as a
56:15
Speaker 2: team is money. If your entire identity as a player
56:20
Speaker 2: is money, is get what I can get right now.
56:24
Speaker 2: This is where as corny as it sounds to some people,
56:27
Speaker 2: this is where culture comes through for Morgan Scalley, for
56:31
Speaker 2: Utah football, the consistency, the coaching staff that remains, the
56:34
Speaker 2: coaching staff that's coming in. It's those relationships matter so much.
56:39
Speaker 2: And Jetfish, by the way, I'm surprised this is happening
56:42
Speaker 2: to Jetfish. I've spent a decent amount of time around him.
56:46
Speaker 2: Jetfish is one of those dudes, incredibly charismatic, easy to
56:50
Speaker 2: talk to, the kind of guy you'd want to run
56:52
Speaker 2: through a wall for, the kind of guy you'd want
56:54
Speaker 2: to play for, the kind of guy that conveys to you.
56:56
Speaker 2: He's interested in you, in your life. For his players,
57:01
Speaker 2: he truly does care about them. I mean, Jed Fish
57:03
Speaker 2: is that dude, and it's happening to him. So what
57:08
Speaker 2: do you want to see your school do with it?
57:10
Speaker 2: If you're a BYU fan, if you're a Utah State fan,
57:12
Speaker 2: if you're a Washington fan, you can't shackle somebody to
57:17
Speaker 2: the services of your university if they don't want to
57:19
Speaker 2: be there. But also if it's you're saying you signed
57:23
Speaker 2: a three million dollar deal, kid, get over it and
57:25
Speaker 2: play I'm here for that too.
57:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we heard weird Eric Weddle say that to you.
57:32
Speaker 1: That's the way that he feels it should be done.
57:35
Speaker 1: And he said, he said well before the introductory press
57:38
Speaker 1: conference yesterday that he feels that Morgan thinks the same
57:42
Speaker 1: way as he does on that sort of thing. And
57:44
Speaker 1: Morgan pretty much conveyed that yesterday. So I chose to
57:50
Speaker 1: find him if you can, and then let him go
57:54
Speaker 1: get whatever you can out of it financially. If that's
57:57
Speaker 1: all you can salvage, then then do it. And that
57:59
Speaker 1: that ought. Maybe that's the one of the things that
58:03
Speaker 1: we've been begging for. Oh see, that helps kids think
58:06
Speaker 1: twice about entering their name in the portal when there's
58:11
Speaker 1: not enough places for these guys at at new schools.
58:16
Speaker 1: For the amount of people that enter their name in
58:18
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, there's way less spots at a different school.
58:22
Speaker 1: So something needs to be done to help these kids
58:24
Speaker 1: and their and their representation think twice before they just
58:29
Speaker 1: you know, you know what, I'm gone. So maybe this
58:31
Speaker 1: is maybe maybe a fine system will be will be
58:34
Speaker 1: part of that, because I'm not sure we're gonna get
58:37
Speaker 1: laws or NCAA intervention. The only time you can probably
58:42
Speaker 1: enforce those fines is in a collective bargaining situation point.
58:45
Speaker 2: So that's where we're headed. But that'll be a conversation
58:49
Speaker 2: that continues for months. We're gonna take a quick one here.
58:52
Speaker 2: We'll come back talk a little NFL playoff weekend. We
58:55
Speaker 2: got big games coming up. You can watch them all
58:58
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59:01
Speaker 2: listen to them right here on ESPN seven hundred and
59:04
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59:07
Speaker 2: us next. Broncos insider and founder of Mile High Huddle.
59:11
Speaker 2: The Broncos they get a ute back just in time
59:14
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59:16
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59:22
Speaker 10: This it's not Sean O'Connell's show. You were home of
59:25
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Speaker 10: ninety two to one a f M. Kens A lot
59:43
Speaker 10: going on into college football world, and obviously here on
59:46
Speaker 10: the Home of the Utes, we stay focused on that.
59:48
Speaker 2: But goodness gracious, the NFL coaching carousel is spinning at
59:52
Speaker 2: a rapid pace. You've got playoff games this weekend that
59:56
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1:00:05
Speaker 2: a lot of people here, most of you are Broncos fans.
1:00:08
Speaker 2: I think the Broncos have the largest chunk of NFL
1:00:11
Speaker 2: fans in the state of Utah. So let's talk a
1:00:14
Speaker 2: little Bronco football. Chad Jensen, founder of Mile High Huddle
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Speaker 2: and former Utah resident, joins us right here on the
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Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show. Chad, welcome, How are you doing great?
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Speaker 7: How are you Sean? Thanks for having me, buddy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you giving us some time. This Broncos team
1:00:33
Speaker 2: has been fascinating this year and really last year as well,
1:00:37
Speaker 2: but especially this year. Are you surprised at at how
1:00:41
Speaker 2: quickly the bo Nicks thing has worked out and how
1:00:44
Speaker 2: well this team has come together in the twenty twenty
1:00:47
Speaker 2: five to twenty twenty six season.
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Speaker 7: Man, I think anybody who says otherwise would be lying
1:00:53
Speaker 7: to you. I mean, I was excited about bo Nicks.
1:00:56
Speaker 7: I was one of those guys that didn't understand some
1:00:58
Speaker 7: of the shade on Knicks coming out of in twenty
1:01:01
Speaker 7: twenty four. But I figured about where they are today
1:01:05
Speaker 7: would be something like year three at best, probably year
1:01:08
Speaker 7: four of the Sean Payton bow Knicks thing. So they've
1:01:12
Speaker 7: outkicked the coverage. You know, Sean Payton figured out a
1:01:15
Speaker 7: way to microwave this thing, and bon Nix is a
1:01:18
Speaker 7: big reason for that. But it's actually pretty crazy too, Sean,
1:01:22
Speaker 7: when you realize that Sean Payton has achieved this while
1:01:25
Speaker 7: managing the biggest dead cap hit in the history of
1:01:28
Speaker 7: the NFL over the last two years, with that Russell
1:01:30
Speaker 7: Wilson contract that was eighty five million bucks. The Broncos
1:01:34
Speaker 7: could not spend on players that their opponents could. So yeah,
1:01:37
Speaker 7: they're ahead to schedule most definitely.
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Speaker 2: That's pretty insane. This is a very Utah specific question.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're doing a lot of these hits around
1:01:46
Speaker 2: the country. A lot of people are not going to
1:01:48
Speaker 2: ask you about Coarne Reid, but we are because he's
1:01:51
Speaker 2: a former ute and he's activated off the IR Do
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Speaker 2: they do you expect that he'll be used heavily as
1:01:57
Speaker 2: we get into these playoffs, not.
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Speaker 7: So much on defense, but he's you know, he's a
1:02:02
Speaker 7: four core special teams guy, and all of his stats
1:02:05
Speaker 7: so far, I mean, he's got five tackles. Remember he's
1:02:08
Speaker 7: missed you know, the last many many games, but he's
1:02:11
Speaker 7: got five tackles this season, all of them on special teams.
1:02:15
Speaker 7: Big contributor there, and that's important because the Broncos coverage
1:02:19
Speaker 7: you and it's on specials has not been very consistent
1:02:22
Speaker 7: and a big part of that was because Reid got hurt.
1:02:25
Speaker 7: So that's a big part of it. But they also
1:02:27
Speaker 7: have an injury up at depth chart with Dre Greenlaw
1:02:30
Speaker 7: dealing with the hamstring that's kept him out of the
1:02:32
Speaker 7: last two games, and he's a little bit injury prone.
1:02:35
Speaker 7: He ends up kind of staying on the sidelines quite
1:02:37
Speaker 7: more than the team would would like. And so I
1:02:40
Speaker 7: could see Reid and a pinch getting called in. But
1:02:42
Speaker 7: he's mostly third phase. He will be dressing but third
1:02:45
Speaker 7: pace and.
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Speaker 2: Look one of the one of the favorites of Utah,
1:02:50
Speaker 2: even though he was only with the Utes for a
1:02:52
Speaker 2: year as a guy who's really made himself into a
1:02:55
Speaker 2: staple for the Broncos. I'm talking about Garrett Bowles, and
1:02:59
Speaker 2: you know, he's the Wall Peyton Man of the Year nominee.
1:03:02
Speaker 2: He's the guy that is I think largely representative of
1:03:05
Speaker 2: what this new Broncos culture is. You'd be better equipped
1:03:09
Speaker 2: to tell me if that's true or not. But what
1:03:11
Speaker 2: does he mean to this team?
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Speaker 7: A lot? Man, He's one of those guys that wandered
1:03:17
Speaker 7: the desert of you know, the NFL basement with the
1:03:22
Speaker 7: Broncos through the lean years post Super Bowl fifty and
1:03:25
Speaker 7: so he hung in there tough. You know, he really
1:03:27
Speaker 7: turned a corner as a as a player way back
1:03:30
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty. He got himself a second team All Pro,
1:03:33
Speaker 7: kept plugging away. I think now that he's got his
1:03:36
Speaker 7: first Pro Bowl nod, I think he could. You know,
1:03:39
Speaker 7: it's basically him and Andrew Thomas, who comes away with
1:03:41
Speaker 7: the first inaugural Protector of the Year award that the
1:03:45
Speaker 7: NFL is rolling out this year. He's right there. He
1:03:47
Speaker 7: is not allowed to sack this season. The only player
1:03:51
Speaker 7: in the NFL with nine hundred and seventy five pass
1:03:54
Speaker 7: blocking snaps, garat Bowls is the only guy who hasn't
1:03:58
Speaker 7: who has not you know, allowed a sack, so emotionally
1:04:00
Speaker 7: he means a lot to this team. And you know,
1:04:02
Speaker 7: Sean Payton when he came in, he cleaned house on
1:04:05
Speaker 7: a lot of those veterans that were leaders during the
1:04:07
Speaker 7: lean years but just had not been able to contribute
1:04:10
Speaker 7: to a winning culture for whatever reason. I think part
1:04:13
Speaker 7: of it too was the premium position that he plays.
1:04:16
Speaker 7: Bowles was one of those guys that Sean Payton saw
1:04:19
Speaker 7: factoring into the long term and he's now on his
1:04:22
Speaker 7: third contract, so he means a lot to this team.
1:04:24
Speaker 7: He's a big time leader and culture guy.
1:04:28
Speaker 2: This team leads the league in sacks, as you're well aware,
1:04:31
Speaker 2: Nick Benito's top five, and there's a lot down the
1:04:35
Speaker 2: line that have contributed to that. In the playoffs, how
1:04:38
Speaker 2: big a factor do you think that pass rush is
1:04:40
Speaker 2: going to play?
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Speaker 7: Huge? Absolutely huge, And it's the number one reason why
1:04:46
Speaker 7: the Broncos are the number one for us to be
1:04:49
Speaker 7: reckoned with in the AFC, and not just because that
1:04:52
Speaker 7: got the home field advantage throughout is the one seed,
1:04:55
Speaker 7: but we all know the cliche defense wins championships, and
1:04:59
Speaker 7: of all the teams that are in the AFC tournament,
1:05:01
Speaker 7: man the Broncos they have that calling card and Vance
1:05:05
Speaker 7: Joseph you know, he's interviewing with five of the seven
1:05:07
Speaker 7: head coach vacancy teams right now or this week anyway.
1:05:11
Speaker 7: So look, man, the Broncos have a special defense. Nick Bonito.
1:05:14
Speaker 7: He's accomplished actually several things historically that not even Von
1:05:19
Speaker 7: Miller accomplished, which is kind of crazy in a short
1:05:22
Speaker 7: amount of time. Him, Jonathan Cooper, they're the edge guys.
1:05:26
Speaker 7: But don't forget what Zach Allen brings to the table inside,
1:05:28
Speaker 7: as well as John Franklin Myers. So, man, sixty eight sacks,
1:05:32
Speaker 7: they came for short of tie in the record that's
1:05:35
Speaker 7: held by the Chicago Bears, and a big part of
1:05:37
Speaker 7: that is they kind of slowed down the last three
1:05:39
Speaker 7: weeks or so, but they're fixing to rampant back up.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know how much you're able to follow
1:05:47
Speaker 2: college football, but I spent the whole year before the
1:05:52
Speaker 2: college football playoff format change saying, man, it's going to
1:05:55
Speaker 2: be so valuable to teams to get that first round
1:05:57
Speaker 2: playoff by And we know how well that prediction has
1:06:00
Speaker 2: worked out for me because it ends up being a
1:06:02
Speaker 2: curse on college teams. How do you characterize this first
1:06:06
Speaker 2: round by for the Broncos. Is it going to be
1:06:08
Speaker 2: good for them to get rested or do you not
1:06:10
Speaker 2: want to see them break any of this momentum from
1:06:12
Speaker 2: the season.
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Speaker 7: No, I think in this case it's a good thing.
1:06:16
Speaker 7: It's a good thing. Although there are arguments for both sides.
1:06:19
Speaker 7: The Broncos have a pretty storied history of getting a
1:06:23
Speaker 7: first round by and then you know, being won and done,
1:06:26
Speaker 7: especially twice actually during the Peyton Manning years. But yeah,
1:06:30
Speaker 7: there's arguments for both sides. I think in Denver's case,
1:06:32
Speaker 7: because of the coach, because of Sean Payton and his experience.
1:06:36
Speaker 7: I mean, this is far from his first rodeo, I
1:06:39
Speaker 7: think the team will be prepared, be able to kind
1:06:42
Speaker 7: of move around some of the obstacles, the rust versus rest,
1:06:47
Speaker 7: you know argument, they'll be ready. Sean Payton's big thing is, hey,
1:06:50
Speaker 7: it just removes one game that we're at risk of
1:06:53
Speaker 7: being eliminated, So that's the good news. But I think
1:06:56
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, with how banged up
1:06:58
Speaker 7: the Broncos are, which relatively speaking, is not as bad
1:07:00
Speaker 7: as a lot of their opponents in the in the
1:07:02
Speaker 7: AFC playoffs, but they have a few key injuries like
1:07:06
Speaker 7: the Drake Greenlaw when I mentioned earlier that that extra
1:07:08
Speaker 7: week could be of help, and plus Bowls Bold injured
1:07:11
Speaker 7: his foot, injured his ankle, I should say in that
1:07:14
Speaker 7: finale versus the Chargers, so that extra week will make
1:07:17
Speaker 7: a difference, and I think Sean Payton will have him
1:07:18
Speaker 7: ready to go.
1:07:20
Speaker 2: When you talk about the rest of this AFC playoff field,
1:07:24
Speaker 2: who's the biggest threat to the Broncos in your mind, man.
1:07:29
Speaker 7: I actually think it's the Chargers. There's an argument to
1:07:32
Speaker 7: be made for the Buffalo Bills because you know, the
1:07:35
Speaker 7: Broncos faced him in the wild card last year and
1:07:37
Speaker 7: absolutely got curb stump. But matchups wise, this Bills team
1:07:41
Speaker 7: is not the same team as it was last year.
1:07:44
Speaker 7: And yeah, Josh Allen, he's still, you know, forced to
1:07:46
Speaker 7: be reckoned with. But Jim Harbaugh has the Broncos number
1:07:51
Speaker 7: like make you know, dismiss that season finale. Herbert wasn't
1:07:54
Speaker 7: playing Khalil Mack, wasn't playing Derwin James, many others. All
1:07:57
Speaker 7: their star players with the exception of Keenan Allen, sat
1:08:00
Speaker 7: in that game. Jim Harbaugh, outside of that finale, is
1:08:04
Speaker 7: undefeated against Sean Payton and bow Knicks. They're three and
1:08:07
Speaker 7: zero going into that finale, and they just match up well.
1:08:11
Speaker 7: Jesse Mentors, LA's defensive coordinator just teams to kind of
1:08:15
Speaker 7: have Sean Payton's numbers. So that's the team that actually
1:08:18
Speaker 7: makes me the most trepidacious. But hey, they got to
1:08:23
Speaker 7: get past New England first, and I actually think that
1:08:25
Speaker 7: they pull it off. I take LA ends up as
1:08:27
Speaker 7: the seventh seed going back to Denver in two weeks
1:08:31
Speaker 7: to play the Broncos.
1:08:33
Speaker 2: Who's gonna Who's Denver gonna play next week?
1:08:36
Speaker 7: That's what I'm It's got to be the I think
1:08:38
Speaker 7: it's the Chargers, you know. I mean, there's a chance.
1:08:41
Speaker 7: Who knows, right? How good is the are the Patriots?
1:08:45
Speaker 7: They only beat two, They only played two teams with
1:08:49
Speaker 7: a winning record in twenty twenty five, one one of them.
1:08:52
Speaker 7: How tested are they? You know, in terms of the
1:08:54
Speaker 7: Refiners fire, they played a pretty dang easy schedule. So
1:08:59
Speaker 7: I'm not a fully believing in this. Drake may led
1:09:03
Speaker 7: Patriots squad and the Chargers, man, They've got the defense,
1:09:06
Speaker 7: they got the quarterback, and then they have the veteran coach,
1:09:09
Speaker 7: you know, Jim Harbaugh's seen a lot of football over
1:09:12
Speaker 7: the years. So I think it's the Chargers who advanced.
1:09:14
Speaker 7: Because the Broncos is the one seed. One of the
1:09:17
Speaker 7: benefits is they get to play whoever the lowest seed
1:09:19
Speaker 7: that survives the first round. That's who goes, and I
1:09:22
Speaker 7: think it's going to be the Chargers. Is the seven?
1:09:26
Speaker 2: All right? Help me out with the rest of these
1:09:28
Speaker 2: AFC games, Steelers, Texans? Who comes out of that one?
1:09:32
Speaker 7: Houston? That defense is maybe even scarier than Denvers.
1:09:37
Speaker 2: Jags, Bills.
1:09:40
Speaker 7: This is a toughie. This is a toughie because the
1:09:43
Speaker 7: Jags they got something special cooking there. But Josh Allen
1:09:47
Speaker 7: does he still have the magic? We'll find out. I'm
1:09:49
Speaker 7: gonna take the Jags, though, because I saw him up
1:09:51
Speaker 7: close in Week sixteen against the Broncos and they are
1:09:53
Speaker 7: forced to be reckoned with.
1:09:56
Speaker 2: And then you think it'll be the Chargers over the
1:09:58
Speaker 2: two seed Patriots, which would set up that Broncos matchup
1:10:01
Speaker 2: one versus seven getting on January seventeenth. Interesting from my
1:10:07
Speaker 2: gut for now, but we'll see. Yeah, from an expectation standpoint,
1:10:12
Speaker 2: I've been through the Niners lean years, and then hey,
1:10:15
Speaker 2: the Niners are back, and you remember the first couple
1:10:20
Speaker 2: of years where your team's back in a playoff conversation
1:10:23
Speaker 2: and it's like, all right, cool, it's good to be
1:10:25
Speaker 2: back at the playoffs. But we're just gonna be happy
1:10:28
Speaker 2: with that for now, and then maybe next year will
1:10:30
Speaker 2: be our year. Maybe the year after that will be
1:10:32
Speaker 2: our year. Where are Broncos fans feeling right now? What
1:10:36
Speaker 2: does this Broncos team think about their own possibilities to
1:10:39
Speaker 2: be in the Super Bowl?
1:10:42
Speaker 7: Well, the team Sean Payton made ways in the summertime
1:10:45
Speaker 7: deciding to go public with saying that this is one
1:10:48
Speaker 7: of what I think he said four or five teams
1:10:50
Speaker 7: he's coached all time where before the season he felt
1:10:54
Speaker 7: like this could be a Super Bowl champion team and
1:10:56
Speaker 7: he went public with the and the Broncos have had
1:10:59
Speaker 7: to live up to that so far. They have, you know,
1:11:01
Speaker 7: eleven straight wins during the regular season the one seed,
1:11:04
Speaker 7: So the team's expectations are super Bowl or busts, especially
1:11:08
Speaker 7: now that they won the one seed home field throughout fans,
1:11:11
Speaker 7: I think what you talked about with just kind of
1:11:14
Speaker 7: being happy that we made it to the party. It's
1:11:16
Speaker 7: okay if we at the bouncer eighty six of us
1:11:18
Speaker 7: early we made it. That was last year. You know,
1:11:21
Speaker 7: Broncos fans were thrilled that they won ten games with
1:11:24
Speaker 7: the rookie quarterback and made the playoffs and just happy
1:11:27
Speaker 7: to snap the streak, the playoff drought. But this season, man,
1:11:30
Speaker 7: it has so many strange parallels with the twenty fifteen
1:11:34
Speaker 7: World champion Broncos and combined with this team, this fan
1:11:38
Speaker 7: base is relatively kind of snooty high standards, and I
1:11:42
Speaker 7: say that in the best sense. You know, Broncos fans
1:11:44
Speaker 7: have been very spoiled over the years. Let's face it, right,
1:11:46
Speaker 7: Like you go from Lway to even that one Tim
1:11:49
Speaker 7: Tebow year, wild Peyton Manning. Now here we are with
1:11:53
Speaker 7: bo Nick, so I think fans have kind of fallen
1:11:57
Speaker 7: in line with the team message, which is super Bowler bust.
1:12:00
Speaker 7: So here we go.
1:12:02
Speaker 2: Does Nick still have any doubters in that market? Because
1:12:05
Speaker 2: I was with you, I covered him while he was
1:12:08
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve and I was like, bow Knicks
1:12:09
Speaker 2: is going to be an awesome NFL quarterback and was
1:12:12
Speaker 2: somewhat surprised by the disbelievers. Do they still exist in Denver?
1:12:18
Speaker 7: I mean, you'll hear with my publication mile high huddle.
1:12:23
Speaker 7: And you know, we're also Denver Broncos. On SI, we
1:12:27
Speaker 7: have a pretty deep staff and not everybody is just
1:12:31
Speaker 7: you know, sunshine and rainbows. When it comes to the Broncos,
1:12:34
Speaker 7: we try to tell it like it is. But overall
1:12:36
Speaker 7: in the market, I think bow Knicks no more doubters
1:12:40
Speaker 7: in Denver, and I don't you know, for the most part,
1:12:42
Speaker 7: I think he silenced all those doubts with what he
1:12:44
Speaker 7: did as a rookie. I mean, he had the second
1:12:47
Speaker 7: most prolific rookie season in the history of the NFL,
1:12:50
Speaker 7: behind only Justin Herbert's twenty twenty campaign. So that kind
1:12:54
Speaker 7: of brought everybody in line. The doubters kind of like,
1:12:56
Speaker 7: all right, cool, but he still got his national boober.
1:13:00
Speaker 7: They're out there, man, just they dug in so hard
1:13:02
Speaker 7: on those pre draft positions. The bon Knicks is not
1:13:05
Speaker 7: a first round guy and he should be in the
1:13:07
Speaker 7: third round. That you know, they're really clinging to what
1:13:11
Speaker 7: are as time March is on being exposed as freezing
1:13:15
Speaker 7: cold takes. I mean, he's you look at what bo
1:13:17
Speaker 7: Nicks has done. He's the only quarterback in the history
1:13:20
Speaker 7: of the NFL, in the history of the NFL to
1:13:24
Speaker 7: win twenty plus games in his first two years, pass
1:13:27
Speaker 7: for seventy five hundred plus yards and fifty plus touchdowns.
1:13:30
Speaker 7: Nobody's ever done that before. So he is a force
1:13:34
Speaker 7: onto his own, and I think people need to kind
1:13:36
Speaker 7: of just admit the situation. There's more dignity in it
1:13:40
Speaker 7: and go Bo Knicks.
1:13:43
Speaker 2: If I take him out of the equation, who is
1:13:46
Speaker 2: the most important Bronco for this playoff run?
1:13:49
Speaker 7: Ooh, that's a great question, man, that's a toughie. I'm
1:13:58
Speaker 7: gonna say Nick Benito. It's a toss up, but I won't.
1:14:02
Speaker 7: I would say Nick Benito won a Patser ten one b.
1:14:07
Speaker 7: You know, the pass rush and the pass defense go
1:14:10
Speaker 7: hand in hand the coverage, but the Broncos need that
1:14:14
Speaker 7: league leading pass rush to be the tip of the spear.
1:14:17
Speaker 7: Because look as flowery as I just was about Bo
1:14:20
Speaker 7: Nicks these last three weeks, from Week sixteen on, the
1:14:24
Speaker 7: offense has kind of been in a little bit of
1:14:27
Speaker 7: a rut and the defense has had to kind of
1:14:29
Speaker 7: carry the way. I don't know, it's hard to put
1:14:31
Speaker 7: your finger on exactly what's going on. A lot of
1:14:33
Speaker 7: people think that Sean Payton once they clinched the playoffs
1:14:36
Speaker 7: and had pretty much control of the AFC West and
1:14:39
Speaker 7: a really good run at the one seed that he
1:14:42
Speaker 7: kind of took his foot off the gas and he's
1:14:44
Speaker 7: not trying to show too much to the NFL. But
1:14:46
Speaker 7: I'm like, you, guys, remember we're like many months into
1:14:49
Speaker 7: the regular season, right Like, he's already shown everything pretty
1:14:52
Speaker 7: much there is to show, but it's been in the
1:14:54
Speaker 7: offense a little bit of a function. They need that
1:14:57
Speaker 7: defense out there, rip roaring, putting pressure on Peyton's big
1:15:00
Speaker 7: emphasis coming into the playoffs as takeaways and the Broncos
1:15:05
Speaker 7: that's the one thing defensively that was missing from the
1:15:08
Speaker 7: resume is they came one takeaway away from being having
1:15:12
Speaker 7: the lowest number of takeaways by any Broncos defense in
1:15:15
Speaker 7: the history of the Denver Broncos one takeaway away. But
1:15:18
Speaker 7: they they're trying to turn that around, and I think
1:15:20
Speaker 7: the first step to that is pressure on that quarterback
1:15:23
Speaker 7: staying consistent because that's where the mistakes are made and
1:15:25
Speaker 7: that's where the ball can get Lucy goosey. So I'm
1:15:28
Speaker 7: gonna say, Nick Benito like it.
1:15:32
Speaker 2: I like what he's done, even I'm not a Broncos guy.
1:15:35
Speaker 2: I'm a Niners guy, but it's cool to see the
1:15:38
Speaker 2: professional football fans here in Salt Lake City having something
1:15:41
Speaker 2: to cheer for because the Broncos are kind of a
1:15:44
Speaker 2: local team a Seahawks, to my chagrin, kind of a
1:15:48
Speaker 2: local team. The Niners, my Niners. All these teams in
1:15:50
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So NFL interested back at an all time high.
1:15:54
Speaker 7: Maybe it's good to see. I'm stoked for Utah. I mean,
1:15:58
Speaker 7: most people I knew grow up, we're Broncos fans. I
1:16:01
Speaker 7: grew up in Saint George, and you know, so we
1:16:04
Speaker 7: still got the same TV market as Salt Lake City
1:16:06
Speaker 7: and stuff. So Broncos on every day, right, like every Sunday.
1:16:09
Speaker 7: But a lot of Niners fans. You're right, And it
1:16:12
Speaker 7: wasn't until about the Russell Wilson there that I started
1:16:15
Speaker 7: seeing people be fans of the Seahawks in the Utah market. Book,
1:16:19
Speaker 7: you know whatever, charge it to the game.
1:16:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we appreciate you giving us some time today.
1:16:25
Speaker 2: As this Broncos run continues, hopefully we'll have you on
1:16:28
Speaker 2: some more.
1:16:29
Speaker 7: My pleasure. Thanks for having me sean great stuff.
1:16:34
Speaker 2: Broncos insider Chad Jensen Mile High huddle. You can follow
1:16:39
Speaker 2: him on Twitter. Man, what a what an interesting time
1:16:43
Speaker 2: for the NFL, What an interesting time for the Broncos organization.
1:16:47
Speaker 2: That are they're really a year or two ahead of schedule.
1:16:53
Speaker 2: But Sean Payton is the type of coach that has
1:16:55
Speaker 2: been around enough and he knows what he's got and
1:16:58
Speaker 2: he announced, yeah, we're ahead of schedule. We can forgot
1:17:02
Speaker 2: about that, because I do now that he brought it
1:17:06
Speaker 2: up again. Know that Chad brought it up again.
1:17:11
Speaker 1: I remember that making the rounds on social media, but
1:17:15
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about it. And it's wild that you
1:17:18
Speaker 1: could forget about it when they end up having a
1:17:21
Speaker 1: season where they went eleven in a row and get
1:17:24
Speaker 1: the number one seed and.
1:17:27
Speaker 2: Have probably the best defense in the NFL.
1:17:29
Speaker 1: Right, But that's how There's been times where some of
1:17:33
Speaker 1: their wins have been kind of shaky, and so maybe
1:17:36
Speaker 1: that's why they've flown under the radar and that kind
1:17:38
Speaker 1: of those offseason statements haven't made the rounds once again
1:17:43
Speaker 1: like they probably would have if it were a different team.
1:17:46
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that it is a credit to
1:17:49
Speaker 1: him for being able to see that, Hey, this team
1:17:52
Speaker 1: has that potential and I mean we always talk about
1:17:56
Speaker 1: head coaches as master motivators. That had to have had
1:17:58
Speaker 1: a motivational angle too, like, hey, guys, you believe. You
1:18:01
Speaker 1: gotta believe that we can win the championship any given year.
1:18:04
Speaker 1: I do, so, that's pretty cool.
1:18:07
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos have eleven more sacks than number two
1:18:11
Speaker 2: in the league, Atlanta's got fifty seven. The Broncos have
1:18:15
Speaker 2: sixty eight sacks so far on the year. What do
1:18:21
Speaker 2: you think? So you asked him who's the most important
1:18:25
Speaker 2: who's the most important player? Besides what'd you say, besides Bownicks,
1:18:29
Speaker 2: besides bow Nicks? You take the quarterback out whenever that
1:18:32
Speaker 2: is the question, because the answer is always the quarterback.
1:18:35
Speaker 1: It's not default, it's the default answer. Even if the
1:18:37
Speaker 1: quarterback's not the best player, it does.
1:18:39
Speaker 2: They're more important than the best player because they touch
1:18:41
Speaker 2: the ball every single play. But no, he's absolutely right.
1:18:44
Speaker 2: I actually didn't even consider the patser Tan angle because
1:18:48
Speaker 2: he's been really disruptive in the passing game. Even though
1:18:51
Speaker 2: he only has one interception this year, he's broken up
1:18:53
Speaker 2: a lot of balls and obviously sometimes people just don't
1:18:57
Speaker 2: want to throw his way for that same reason. But
1:19:00
Speaker 2: he's dead on. Nick Benito has fourteen sacks on the year.
1:19:03
Speaker 2: He's fifth in the NFL right now in sacks individual
1:19:07
Speaker 2: sacks in a year where you know it's a big
1:19:09
Speaker 2: sack here, Miles Garrett set the new single season record
1:19:12
Speaker 2: twenty three sacks in one season. Nick Benito's got fourteen.
1:19:16
Speaker 2: And this is maybe the most impressive thing about the
1:19:19
Speaker 2: Broncos racking up sixty eight total sacks. Benito's got fourteen.
1:19:25
Speaker 2: John Franklin Myers has seven and a half. No second
1:19:30
Speaker 2: double digit sack guy?
1:19:31
Speaker 1: Oh wow, how many Jonah Ellis ended up with?
1:19:36
Speaker 2: Let me find Jonah Ellis had two and a half sacks? Okay,
1:19:41
Speaker 2: uh though, Yeah, they've got one double digit sack guy,
1:19:46
Speaker 2: and then seven and a half and just a bunch
1:19:50
Speaker 2: of other contributors. Seven for Zach Allen, three for DJ Jones,
1:19:54
Speaker 2: three and a half for Wuzoriquez. Jonathan Cooper's got eight.
1:20:00
Speaker 2: They just have piled it up as a team, sixty
1:20:03
Speaker 2: eight sacks on the ear and that will matter in
1:20:06
Speaker 2: the playoffs because you're gonna face good quarterbacks in the playoffs.
1:20:10
Speaker 2: You got to be able to get to him. Sixty
1:20:11
Speaker 2: eight sacks?
1:20:12
Speaker 10: Is it?
1:20:13
Speaker 2: Crazy? Year?
1:20:14
Speaker 1: I just I wondered how I wonder how far down
1:20:18
Speaker 1: Garrett Bowles is as the as the tackle and the
1:20:22
Speaker 1: best offensive lineman on the team in importance. That was
1:20:27
Speaker 1: something I was thinking about as Chad was answering that question. Obviously,
1:20:31
Speaker 1: I nick Benito is the best player. I think he's
1:20:35
Speaker 1: the best player on the team. Maybe Bowles is.
1:20:38
Speaker 2: You could say Bulls is better than him, So he's
1:20:41
Speaker 2: since he's not the quarterback, he's got to be the
1:20:43
Speaker 2: most important player. But I just I wonder how far
1:20:45
Speaker 2: down Bulls would be for an insider like that. Do
1:20:50
Speaker 2: you know what the single season team sack record is
1:20:53
Speaker 2: in the NFL in the seventies It is seventy six
1:21:00
Speaker 2: seventy by the eighty four Bears. Okay, so not the
1:21:05
Speaker 2: fabled eighty five Bears, but the season before. Yeah, fairly
1:21:10
Speaker 2: all right, that's according to Grock, the underrated eighty four Bears.
1:21:17
Speaker 2: No nobody ever talks about them. I gotta make sure
1:21:23
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1:21:28
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're you're relying on Crock for this
1:21:33
Speaker 1: very high stakes in the middle of the show. Yeah,
1:21:35
Speaker 1: that's that's what happened. We can correct it. That's what
1:21:37
Speaker 1: happens when you do it off the cuff.
1:21:39
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Speaker 2: did confirm during the break most sacks in a single
1:22:52
Speaker 2: season the nineteen eighty four Bears with seventy two. This
1:22:55
Speaker 2: year's Broncos team is second all time sixty eight. Wow.
1:23:00
Speaker 2: Do you think how they played a lot more games
1:23:02
Speaker 2: than the eighty four Bears did, but still that's true.
1:23:04
Speaker 1: How aware do you think they were that they were
1:23:07
Speaker 1: four sacks away? Hopefully very aware, like fighting for it, like,
1:23:11
Speaker 1: because I don't know. I don't know that that was
1:23:14
Speaker 1: talked about very much in the media. The fans may
1:23:17
Speaker 1: not have been that aware. Yeah, I don't know how
1:23:19
Speaker 1: much it was.
1:23:21
Speaker 2: What tea two thousand and eight, the Kansas City Chiefs
1:23:24
Speaker 2: hold the record for the fewest sacks in a season.
1:23:28
Speaker 2: How many think they got that year? Was it? It's
1:23:33
Speaker 2: a few, not few at sacks allowed, few sacks allowed,
1:23:36
Speaker 2: sacks they were able to sack big quarterback. I was
1:23:40
Speaker 2: about to say a single digit number because few of
1:23:42
Speaker 2: sacks allowed was in my head. Uh, fifteen ten, ten,
1:23:46
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, the Kansas City Chiefs only got
1:23:48
Speaker 2: ten sacks. That's like a decent year for one person. Wow.
1:23:54
Speaker 2: And as a team, the two thousand and eight Chiefs
1:23:56
Speaker 2: only sacked the quarterback for their opposition ten times.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, eight Chiefs. That was the team
1:24:03
Speaker 1: that it must not have went down as a sack.
1:24:06
Speaker 1: But that was the team that knocked Tom Brady out
1:24:08
Speaker 1: for the year after the record setting year.
1:24:10
Speaker 2: Right, maybe maybe it didn't go out. Maybe that was
1:24:12
Speaker 2: one of their sacks.
1:24:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember, And it led to the It led to
1:24:16
Speaker 1: the rule change where you can't if you go into
1:24:18
Speaker 1: players ankle, it's a flag automatically.
1:24:20
Speaker 2: So wow, on of one of ten sacks, if he
1:24:25
Speaker 2: was sacks allowed in an NFL season. The Miami Dolphins
1:24:28
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight gave gave up a grand total
1:24:31
Speaker 2: of seven sacks gos, the most sacks allowed at a season.
1:24:35
Speaker 2: If seven is the fewest, what do you think the
1:24:37
Speaker 2: most is? Dan? Dan Marino? What do you think? What
1:24:40
Speaker 2: do you think, Dan Marino? What do you think? Fifty?
1:24:45
Speaker 2: One hundred and four? Okay, the nineteen eighty so, how
1:24:48
Speaker 2: would I say fifty? Of course it's the nineteen eighty
1:24:51
Speaker 2: six Eagles gave up one hundred and four sacks. Wow, disgusting.
1:24:57
Speaker 1: Shout out By the way, before we get into more
1:25:01
Speaker 1: daily dump. Did you see the graphic that was just
1:25:04
Speaker 1: on the TV about guys who most yards average yards
1:25:08
Speaker 1: from scrimmage per game running backs in the history of
1:25:11
Speaker 1: the NFL. Your guy, Christian McCaffrey was our top five.
1:25:15
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley a couple spots ahead of him, Dereck Henry,
1:25:18
Speaker 1: and I didn't catch what year, but Dereck Henry as
1:25:20
Speaker 1: a year where he's right in between the two of them.
1:25:24
Speaker 2: All three of those guys are active, and still you
1:25:26
Speaker 2: could argue that's the top three running backs in the NFL.
1:25:29
Speaker 2: You know what's the scary part about the Derrick Henry
1:25:31
Speaker 2: thing is, though those other guys, especially Christian McCaffrey, he's
1:25:35
Speaker 2: the leading rusher and the leading receiver for the Niners.
1:25:38
Speaker 2: So those yards from scrimmage are they're truly yard from scriptage.
1:25:43
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, it's mostly just rush yard. Yeah, he's just
1:25:45
Speaker 2: running through. It's mostly just like what catches the occasional pass.
1:25:49
Speaker 2: We're gonna count these his yards from scripts. These are
1:25:51
Speaker 2: rush yards for you.
1:25:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Terrell Davis has the has the record. I
1:25:56
Speaker 1: imagine it was his two thousand yards season.
1:26:00
Speaker 2: But yeah, those other three active, I mean, for an
1:26:04
Speaker 2: era that we have said over and over again, the
1:26:06
Speaker 2: running back doesn't matter. And of course the last two
1:26:09
Speaker 2: years has been a renaissance for the running back. But
1:26:11
Speaker 2: these last two years, aside, we've said a running back
1:26:14
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Those are those three are probably Hall of famers. Well,
1:26:20
Speaker 2: and you just named of the two of the most
1:26:24
Speaker 2: important players on playoff teams. Yeah, and the most important
1:26:28
Speaker 2: player on what should have been a playoff team this year.
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Speaker 2: Bill Riley on the call there. And of course that's
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Speaker 2: their last game before the rivalry game on, so we'll
1:27:01
Speaker 2: see how they fare against Colorado. Transfer Portal News. I
1:27:05
Speaker 2: don't like seeing this one. Don Saunders, who was a
1:27:08
Speaker 2: transfer into the University of Utah, Texas A and M
1:27:12
Speaker 2: guy who they really probably would have used a lot
1:27:15
Speaker 2: more if he hadn't been banged up, got healthy later
1:27:18
Speaker 2: in the year, and Guy could play. Man. He is
1:27:21
Speaker 2: a good football player, he's long, he's rangy. I do
1:27:25
Speaker 2: not want to see him leave. Now. The leverage for
1:27:28
Speaker 2: somebody like that is really interesting because he doesn't have
1:27:35
Speaker 2: a ton of game tape from this year. What he
1:27:36
Speaker 2: does have, especially at Kansas State game, he was awesome,
1:27:40
Speaker 2: right and then he's got the traits. So there's plenty
1:27:44
Speaker 2: of teams out there who are looking at him and
1:27:46
Speaker 2: saying like, well, this was an SEC cornerback. And then
1:27:48
Speaker 2: he got development under one of the great schools to
1:27:50
Speaker 2: develop corners. So I'll take him. My hope is that
1:27:54
Speaker 2: because he was banged up last year, because he doesn't
1:27:57
Speaker 2: have quite as much game tape as like a smith
1:28:00
Speaker 2: snowed that you know, the offers that come, he will
1:28:03
Speaker 2: get offers, but the offers that come will not be
1:28:05
Speaker 2: appealing enough to actually lure him away from the University
1:28:08
Speaker 2: of Utah, and hopefully this is like a bounce back.
1:28:10
Speaker 2: Guy Morgan Scalley doesn't want people who don't want to
1:28:13
Speaker 2: be here, but he also understands that like you keep
1:28:18
Speaker 2: talented players in the fold, the business nature of this thing,
1:28:21
Speaker 2: guys are gonna explore their options. Mackay Bernard situation is
1:28:25
Speaker 2: not going to be unheard of, So hopefully Don Saunders
1:28:28
Speaker 2: comes on back, but we'll.
1:28:29
Speaker 1: See do we think do we think future he should
1:28:33
Speaker 1: not be named? Kyle Whittingham and school who and school
1:28:36
Speaker 1: who should not be named? From my perspective, will be
1:28:39
Speaker 1: offering Don Sanders. I hope not that could be one that,
1:28:44
Speaker 1: but it could be one he's got. He's got those
1:28:46
Speaker 1: traits and they were really excited about what he did
1:28:49
Speaker 1: in those what three games that he was available last year.
1:28:52
Speaker 1: So we've talked all week long about the weird situation
1:28:58
Speaker 1: that Old Miss finds itself in playing a semi final game,
1:29:02
Speaker 1: a game away from a national championship appearance, and it's
1:29:05
Speaker 1: having to do so with kind of a skeleton crew
1:29:07
Speaker 1: coaching staff because all these guys are following Lane Kiffin.
1:29:10
Speaker 1: The whole offense is following Lane Kiffin to LSU, and
1:29:15
Speaker 1: they did not anticipate. Lane did not anticipate that Ole
1:29:17
Speaker 1: Miss was gonna beat Georgia. So he's like, yeah, go
1:29:20
Speaker 1: coach the Georgia game. Then show up when the transfer
1:29:22
Speaker 1: portal opens. Well, they beat Georgia they're in a semi
1:29:26
Speaker 1: final game, and so Lane is lending back two of
1:29:30
Speaker 1: his LSU coaches, running backs coach offensive coordinator Charlie Weis Junior,
1:29:35
Speaker 1: are going to be calling the place and it's like
1:29:37
Speaker 1: a story, Hey, guess what breaking news.
1:29:41
Speaker 2: The coaches that have been with this team for the
1:29:43
Speaker 2: whole season are actually going to be there for their
1:29:45
Speaker 2: most important game so far. It was in the update
1:29:47
Speaker 2: yesterday headline. Yeah, it is nuts.
1:29:52
Speaker 1: And from Lane's perspective I alluded to He's got some
1:29:56
Speaker 1: financial skin in the game if Ole Miss is able
1:29:59
Speaker 1: to win the national champion, So I'm sure that's part
1:30:01
Speaker 1: of his motivation. Be like, yeah, you guys, go ahead
1:30:04
Speaker 1: and help out Pete Golding and my former team, your
1:30:08
Speaker 1: current team still because that could be really good for
1:30:12
Speaker 1: me too, even though I prefer your full focus is
1:30:15
Speaker 1: helping in this transfer portal stuff. But yeah, it's it's not.
1:30:19
Speaker 1: By the way, you can hear that game tomorrow night
1:30:21
Speaker 1: here on the station. Ole Miss Miami.
1:30:24
Speaker 2: So again, nobody's expecting the old Miss is gonna beat Miami,
1:30:29
Speaker 2: but we'll see how it plays out. Is Miami favored?
1:30:33
Speaker 2: I believe they are, am I wrong on that And
1:30:35
Speaker 2: maybe I haven't.
1:30:37
Speaker 1: You probably have looked at it more than I have.
1:30:39
Speaker 1: I just assumed, and we follow into these traps I do.
1:30:43
Speaker 1: The lower seed is not favored, but sometimes they are
1:30:46
Speaker 1: the betting favorite, and they're playing like they probably ought
1:30:49
Speaker 1: to be favored.
1:30:52
Speaker 2: The other thing and so there's coaches that are effectively
1:30:55
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal, right, and the other thing about this, yeah,
1:30:59
Speaker 2: Miami three and half points, three and a half points, Okay.
1:31:02
Speaker 2: The Oregon Ducks are heading into I think the more
1:31:07
Speaker 2: interesting semi final matchup against Indiana, a rematch from earlier
1:31:11
Speaker 2: in the season. De facto national championship for me, So
1:31:15
Speaker 2: you think whoever wins this ends up being the national
1:31:18
Speaker 2: champ I think these are the two best teams left
1:31:20
Speaker 2: in the field. And it's easy to say that, Yeah,
1:31:22
Speaker 2: they're the highest seeds, but like beyond the seeds, these
1:31:26
Speaker 2: are the two best teams left in the field. So
1:31:28
Speaker 2: I defecto national championship. Oregon finds itself short on running
1:31:33
Speaker 2: backs for this game because of injury, and people don't
1:31:39
Speaker 2: realize this. I actually didn't know it myself, and then
1:31:42
Speaker 2: I went back because I saw a tweet about it
1:31:45
Speaker 2: and it was I think it was Kenyon Barnard, the
1:31:47
Speaker 2: former Oregon Duck running back who tweeted about this, and
1:31:53
Speaker 2: he pointed out the play that their best running back,
1:31:57
Speaker 2: the Oregon Ducks' best running back, had gotten hurt. This
1:32:00
Speaker 2: Davison kid, Jordan Davison in the game against Texas Tech.
1:32:06
Speaker 2: He actually you can see the play where he hurts
1:32:10
Speaker 2: himself and he just gutted it out the rest of
1:32:14
Speaker 2: the game. And now the injury is too bad, you
1:32:18
Speaker 2: know how it is after the adrenaline wear is off,
1:32:20
Speaker 2: the soreness, the stiffness, whatever. He's out for the semi
1:32:24
Speaker 2: final against Indiana. Six hundred and sixty seven yards this year,
1:32:29
Speaker 2: six yards to carry fifteen touchdowns for Jordan Davison. He's out.
1:32:35
Speaker 2: And that's just one of those things you can't control.
1:32:37
Speaker 2: Injuries happen in college football. That stinks enter a much
1:32:42
Speaker 2: more annoying situation if you are the Oregon Ducks, because
1:32:48
Speaker 2: being down one running back against a Miami excuse me,
1:32:52
Speaker 2: an Indiana team that is just problematic for everyone. That's
1:32:57
Speaker 2: that's difficult enough for you to deal with. But Jaden Lamar,
1:33:01
Speaker 2: who is their fourth leading rusher this year, so a
1:33:04
Speaker 2: guy who's not like particularly massively important, but he is
1:33:08
Speaker 2: used by this team. He has entered the transfer portal.
1:33:12
Speaker 2: He did it yesterday. Your team is playing in a
1:33:16
Speaker 2: semi final game. The NCAA has put rules into place
1:33:20
Speaker 2: to where if you are in the playoff your transfer
1:33:22
Speaker 2: window actually is extended ten days after everyone else's. So
1:33:27
Speaker 2: the transfer portal window closes for Utah players on the sixteenth.
1:33:32
Speaker 2: If you're in these games. If you're in the team
1:33:35
Speaker 2: is in the playoffs, you get more time to put
1:33:38
Speaker 2: your name in the portal. You could at least wait,
1:33:41
Speaker 2: even if you didn't want to wait until that extra
1:33:43
Speaker 2: day kicked in, you could at least wait until after
1:33:46
Speaker 2: the game this weekend. You force the hand of somebody
1:33:49
Speaker 2: like Dan Lanning who's trying to build his team around
1:33:52
Speaker 2: culture and buy in like everyone else in college football.
1:33:56
Speaker 2: Jaden Lamar entered his name in the transfer port yesterday.
1:34:01
Speaker 2: He has two hundred and sixty two yards total on
1:34:03
Speaker 2: the season. He's averaging six yards of carry. He has
1:34:06
Speaker 2: scored three touchdowns. They've also used him in the passing
1:34:09
Speaker 2: game a little bit, and so he's like, I don't know.
1:34:13
Speaker 2: He he's not the one of the most important players
1:34:16
Speaker 2: on this Oregon team. But when your death at running
1:34:19
Speaker 2: back already takes a hit, your number two guy goes down,
1:34:22
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, that means my number three guys now
1:34:24
Speaker 2: my number two guy and my number four guy has
1:34:27
Speaker 2: got to be my number three guy. So the Oregon Ducks,
1:34:31
Speaker 2: heading into the most important game of the season, lose
1:34:36
Speaker 2: a running back to injury. Okay, sorry, that sucks. They
1:34:40
Speaker 2: also lose a guy because he's just impatient to get
1:34:42
Speaker 2: his name in the transfer portal. What are we doing?
1:34:48
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
1:34:49
Speaker 1: We saw it here in the first Pactal Championship year,
1:34:53
Speaker 1: maybe it was the second one, one of the two
1:34:55
Speaker 1: Pactal Championship years. We saw it with Peter Costelli right before,
1:35:00
Speaker 1: like right at the end of the regular season, like
1:35:02
Speaker 1: why not just wait a little bit?
1:35:03
Speaker 2: Which for Peter Costello's there's others. There's specific circumstances with
1:35:07
Speaker 2: some of these guys. It's also a little bit different
1:35:09
Speaker 2: because it's like, I'm not playing any of these games.
1:35:11
Speaker 2: Kind it kind of doesn't matter. Like this dude, jays
1:35:14
Speaker 2: Lamar is gonna play, he plays on special teams, and
1:35:17
Speaker 2: he's gonna be given a couple touches in that game.
1:35:22
Speaker 2: Why why are you transferring? Why are you? Why are
1:35:25
Speaker 2: you saying anything to anyone until the game is played.
1:35:29
Speaker 2: You don't even have to wait until Saturday. It's a
1:35:32
Speaker 2: short week.
1:35:33
Speaker 1: Just just wait a little bit. I don't know if
1:35:36
Speaker 1: it's these players. I don't know if it's the players
1:35:39
Speaker 1: that get impatient specifically. I don't know if it's family members, parents, whatever,
1:35:44
Speaker 1: whoever it might be. I don't know if they're getting
1:35:46
Speaker 1: bad advice from their from their representation, but whoever it is,
1:35:50
Speaker 1: maybe it's a combination of all three. Whatever it is,
1:35:52
Speaker 1: someone needs to be in these in these guys years
1:35:55
Speaker 1: to say, will you just wait till you're eliminated from
1:35:58
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Maybe you or tell you win the national
1:36:01
Speaker 1: championship whatever, like it's not that far away. They put
1:36:05
Speaker 1: things in place that you are not going to miss
1:36:09
Speaker 1: your chance to transfer or explore your options if that's
1:36:12
Speaker 1: all you're trying to do, Like just just wait.
1:36:15
Speaker 2: Man. And maybe he forgot, maybe he and his reps
1:36:18
Speaker 2: for good that they extended the transfer window for teams
1:36:21
Speaker 2: that are in the playoffs. I suppose that's possible. I
1:36:24
Speaker 2: just that's right. That's not very good, Agent Ding. I
1:36:28
Speaker 2: know that I fail in this effort. I really try
1:36:30
Speaker 2: to not be a get off my lawn, like you
1:36:32
Speaker 2: can't change all this. The direction to college football stinks
1:36:36
Speaker 2: and it hurts the sport. I really try to not
1:36:40
Speaker 2: be a pessimist about a bunch of this stuff. Like
1:36:43
Speaker 2: I put in my own mental space. I put in
1:36:47
Speaker 2: an effort to be like, all right, it's just the
1:36:49
Speaker 2: way things are, don't be a grump about it. But
1:36:51
Speaker 2: this one is, like, what are you doing? Your team
1:36:54
Speaker 2: is playing in a very high consequence game. Even if
1:37:00
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna leave, put in the effort stay
1:37:05
Speaker 2: around and see what it looks like on the other side.
1:37:08
Speaker 2: And the reason crazy, the reason I bring up.
1:37:11
Speaker 1: Peter Castelli not only because it sort of is it's
1:37:15
Speaker 1: sort of something that Utah went through. But he you're right,
1:37:20
Speaker 1: had no role on the field, right, So it's a
1:37:22
Speaker 1: it's apple, it's a bit apples and oranges. But that
1:37:25
Speaker 1: situation similar in that like, hey, your team's going to
1:37:29
Speaker 1: the packed World Championship game.
1:37:30
Speaker 2: They don't have to do it. I don't know, would
1:37:33
Speaker 2: just wait a little bit, Like even if you don't
1:37:36
Speaker 2: have a role on the team, don't you want to
1:37:39
Speaker 2: be there when your team wins the potentially wins the
1:37:42
Speaker 2: packed well for the first time. Go get yourself a
1:37:44
Speaker 2: good meal, hang out with your buddies, like be on
1:37:47
Speaker 2: the trip to the Rose Bowl. Don't you want that?
1:37:49
Speaker 2: Like those things don't come around for the rest of
1:37:52
Speaker 2: your life anyway, This one's interesting. The United States Patent
1:37:58
Speaker 2: Office is did not saying it the application for Las
1:38:02
Speaker 2: Vegas Athletics and Vegas Athletics, saying that athletics is too
1:38:08
Speaker 2: generic and too easily confused. So the US Patent Office
1:38:12
Speaker 2: the Oakland Athletics are temporarily in Sacramento, intending to go
1:38:17
Speaker 2: and be the permanent MLB franchise for Las Vegas. We
1:38:20
Speaker 2: know this right, and they want to keep the name
1:38:23
Speaker 2: the Athletics, but the US Patent Office is just like, no,
1:38:27
Speaker 2: we're not going to have your protected name, the Las
1:38:29
Speaker 2: Vegas Athletics. It's too general. So follow up question, is
1:38:34
Speaker 2: Oakland Athletics protected? Then it was? It is. And by
1:38:39
Speaker 2: the way, the Athletics name. The Athletics name started with
1:38:42
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Athletics in like nineteen oh eight.
1:38:46
Speaker 1: I think they were in Kansas City at one time too.
1:38:48
Speaker 1: Like they're the Sacramento Kings of Baseball. They've been everywhere
1:38:52
Speaker 1: they've been. They've been like three or four different homes.
1:38:56
Speaker 1: This will be their fourth or fifth home.
1:38:57
Speaker 2: And now the Patent Office is saying, no, you can't
1:38:59
Speaker 2: just call something athletic because like Las Vegas athletics could
1:39:03
Speaker 2: be referring to anything athletic in Las Vegas. Yet. Yeah,
1:39:06
Speaker 2: of course Jim could be a sporting good store. Sure, technically,
1:39:10
Speaker 2: but we know that in this case it's a the
1:39:14
Speaker 2: Oakland a's the Las Vegas And by the way, I
1:39:18
Speaker 2: guess what they also won't trademark just the a's. You
1:39:22
Speaker 2: can't just call them the Las Vegas a's because well,
1:39:24
Speaker 2: in a it's just it's just a letter. You can't.
1:39:27
Speaker 1: This is why we need more sports people in these departments,
1:39:31
Speaker 1: because like it's really simple.
1:39:34
Speaker 2: Can you name for me that last Can you name
1:39:37
Speaker 2: for me the last time the US Patent Office denied
1:39:40
Speaker 2: a sports team's application for a name. Are we talking
1:39:45
Speaker 2: Utah Mammoth? Yes? Yeah, when they tried to be the
1:39:49
Speaker 2: Utah YETI the US Patent Office said, Nope, it's too confusing.
1:39:53
Speaker 2: The coolers can't do it. Can't get that made that
1:39:57
Speaker 2: kind of made sense. I mean that actually made a
1:39:59
Speaker 2: lot of this doesn't not make sense from a very
1:40:02
Speaker 2: technical standpoint, but it's like, there's no brand other than
1:40:09
Speaker 2: the baseball team that has been the Athletics for over
1:40:12
Speaker 2: a century in different homes. But over a century we've
1:40:15
Speaker 2: had the athletics franchise. There's no other competing brand. That's like,
1:40:21
Speaker 2: you know what, No, you can't do that because we're
1:40:23
Speaker 2: also the athletics and that's too generic. We're trying to
1:40:26
Speaker 2: use athletic we It's like, no, it's the baseball franchise.
1:40:29
Speaker 2: Just let it happen. It was so funny about this
1:40:31
Speaker 2: whole thing for me is like this same Patent Office
1:40:34
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, there can be a New York Giants
1:40:36
Speaker 2: in a San Francisco Giants. Well, that must have happened
1:40:39
Speaker 2: long enough ago. There can be a whatever Hawaii Warriors
1:40:43
Speaker 2: and a Golden State Warriors. They don't mind. Or hey,
1:40:46
Speaker 2: but there are the Drake Bulldogs, the Yale Bulldogs, the
1:40:50
Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldogs. They don't care. Shout out to my mom's
1:40:53
Speaker 2: high school, Virgin Valley Bulldogs. Athletics is just too general
1:40:58
Speaker 2: according to the US Patent Office. It's crazy. This is
1:41:01
Speaker 2: a wild one to me. But adventures in naming a franchise.
1:41:06
Speaker 2: When Utah eventually gets a major League Baseball franchise, when
1:41:10
Speaker 2: Dale Murphy brings hopefully a Hall of Fame induction eventually
1:41:16
Speaker 2: and also a Big League Utah franchise to our home state.
1:41:22
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to be careful about the US Patent
1:41:24
Speaker 2: Office application.
1:41:25
Speaker 1: Like if they try to make if the and the
1:41:27
Speaker 1: Miller family, of course, is going to be the owners
1:41:30
Speaker 1: of this team if and when it happens, if they
1:41:33
Speaker 1: try to make Bees the major league name, Nope, then
1:41:36
Speaker 1: it'd be then that too generic.
1:41:39
Speaker 2: Do you mean the animal bees or do you mean
1:41:41
Speaker 2: the letter bees? Generic to generic? We would like to
1:41:45
Speaker 2: be the Utah Mountains. Nope, too many mountains.
1:41:48
Speaker 1: What if someone wants to have a store called the
1:41:51
Speaker 1: Utah Mountains?
1:41:53
Speaker 2: Give me a break. We need more sports people in
1:41:56
Speaker 2: charge of these kind of things. Very odd. I have
1:41:59
Speaker 2: to get to this one before we take a break. There,
1:42:00
Speaker 2: we'll double up and we'll talk a little Utah Mammoth.
1:42:03
Speaker 2: There's a big press conference happening this afternoon with perhaps
1:42:07
Speaker 2: a special announcement for some outdoor hockey. We'll tell you
1:42:11
Speaker 2: between the Pipes is coming. But Montana State just won
1:42:15
Speaker 2: a national championship in the FCS. If you didn't get
1:42:18
Speaker 2: a chance to watch any of that game, go at
1:42:20
Speaker 2: least find the end of game scenarios on YouTube. It
1:42:24
Speaker 2: was a wild, insane overtime game between Illinois State and
1:42:29
Speaker 2: Montana State. Their first national championship since nineteen eighty four,
1:42:33
Speaker 2: and they've been kind of in the playoff hunt for many,
1:42:35
Speaker 2: many many years. First national championship since nineteen eighty four.
1:42:40
Speaker 2: They have a receiver who is listed on the roster
1:42:43
Speaker 2: as Taco Dollar. Excuse me, Taco Dowler. His name is
1:42:47
Speaker 2: Taco Dowler, his given name, his birth name is not Taco.
1:42:52
Speaker 2: Christian name is not Taco, okay, And he was asked
1:42:59
Speaker 2: many times about how'd you get the name Taco? Why
1:43:01
Speaker 2: is your name Taco? It's maybe the greatest nickname origin
1:43:06
Speaker 2: story that I've ever heard. And also there's a member
1:43:09
Speaker 2: of my wife's family who has a very similar nickname story.
1:43:12
Speaker 2: All right, all right, So this kid apparently was going
1:43:17
Speaker 2: through a drive through with his family at Taco Bell
1:43:24
Speaker 2: and saw the word Taco in Taco Bell and there
1:43:28
Speaker 2: he was like, what's that and they're like, it's Taco
1:43:30
Speaker 2: meaning Taco Bell. He said, that's my name now and apparently,
1:43:36
Speaker 2: when you're in Montana and you're a five year old
1:43:39
Speaker 2: who likes the word taco and you say that's my name,
1:43:41
Speaker 2: now your family just goes okay, okay, fine. So Taco
1:43:45
Speaker 2: Dollar has since been named Taco Dowar.
1:43:49
Speaker 1: So hold on, what fast food restaurant is someone in
1:43:54
Speaker 1: your well, not family, not exactly the fast food situation,
1:43:58
Speaker 1: but this is wild.
1:43:59
Speaker 2: So my wife's cousin who is like the closest to
1:44:02
Speaker 2: her in age. They grew up very very close. He's
1:44:05
Speaker 2: an amazing guy. He's like the coolest dude. His name
1:44:09
Speaker 2: is Skip. I've always known him as Skip, which is
1:44:12
Speaker 2: you know, it's a name. It's also like a nickname.
1:44:14
Speaker 2: So all right, but whatever, it's not this gigantic Mormon family.
1:44:18
Speaker 2: It's not outside the realm of possibility that his name
1:44:20
Speaker 2: is just Skip. Right.
1:44:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've forgive him for for me having the same
1:44:24
Speaker 1: name as as Skip Bayless.
1:44:26
Speaker 2: He's he's not, it's not his actual name. Yeah. And
1:44:29
Speaker 2: I was informed after I don't know however long knowing
1:44:32
Speaker 2: him that at one point when he was a child,
1:44:36
Speaker 2: he just informed his family. Nope, I'm Skip now, I'm Skipped.
1:44:39
Speaker 2: Now you have to call me Skip and they were
1:44:41
Speaker 2: just like, okay, you're skip.
1:44:44
Speaker 7: So.
1:44:45
Speaker 2: Self naming is one of the wildest things you can
1:44:48
Speaker 2: do as a child.
1:44:49
Speaker 1: But it works also some adults self name. Shaq and
1:44:53
Speaker 1: Kobe have so so Shack gave himself all the nicknames
1:44:57
Speaker 1: he has and Kobe's black Mamba nickname that was a cell.
1:45:00
Speaker 2: I am Black Mama. Everyone call me that now? All right, James,
1:45:04
Speaker 2: if you were giving yourself a nickname, what would it be?
1:45:08
Speaker 2: Let's see. I'm gonna have to I have to think
1:45:15
Speaker 2: on that. Would I be Big Haircutting? Now you're gonna
1:45:22
Speaker 2: beat You just destroyed yourself, James, the Big haircut. Peter's
1:45:29
Speaker 2: the show today? All right? Amazing? Shout out to Andy Bernard.
1:45:33
Speaker 2: All right?
1:45:34
Speaker 10: Uh?
1:45:35
Speaker 2: Is the Winter Classic coming to Salt Lake City? Is
1:45:37
Speaker 2: that the announcement we're getting from Gary Bettman and the
1:45:40
Speaker 2: NHL when they do a press conference at Rice Ecle
1:45:43
Speaker 2: st Wait, wait a minute, why would they be doing
1:45:45
Speaker 2: it at Rice ecl Stadium. The Delta Center is where
1:45:49
Speaker 2: the Mammoth play Smith is a b YU fan. What's
1:45:54
Speaker 2: going on? Our very own Mammoth insider Adrian Denny joins
1:45:59
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Speaker 11: Man? You're ready to open a seven game homestand I
1:46:50
Speaker 11: will be there tonight.
1:46:52
Speaker 2: Fantastic, very excited about it, not as a media member
1:46:55
Speaker 2: but just as a mammoth fan. So I'll get to
1:46:58
Speaker 2: wear the sweater and hang out and embarrass my wife
1:47:01
Speaker 2: with the tusks face paint. Uh No, I don't go
1:47:06
Speaker 2: quite that. Why how are you?
1:47:10
Speaker 11: I'm doing awesome. I'm happy the team's home, right. I
1:47:13
Speaker 11: obviously don't travel, so I'm in the Mountain Blue Studios
1:47:17
Speaker 11: in the Delta Center for all of our games, but
1:47:19
Speaker 11: when the team is home means they got to have
1:47:21
Speaker 11: my Santorini's for dinner right outside of section seven and eight.
1:47:26
Speaker 2: It's my go to. Yeah yeah, the braised beef bowl.
1:47:29
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, you and I were on the same wavelength.
1:47:34
Speaker 2: The puffy pete is one of the great things to
1:47:37
Speaker 2: do as a sports fan. When you're attending with relative
1:47:41
Speaker 2: regularity at a particular arena, stadium, whatever is, you find
1:47:46
Speaker 2: your delectable treat in that stadium, you get to look
1:47:50
Speaker 2: forward to that, and that Santorini's at the Delta Center
1:47:55
Speaker 2: has been that for me, not only last year, but
1:47:58
Speaker 2: this year as well.
1:47:59
Speaker 11: They've got new item that you know, it's Santorini's, so
1:48:04
Speaker 11: it has to be healthy, right, Like everything they have
1:48:07
Speaker 11: is healthy. So this these these crunch rolls they have
1:48:13
Speaker 11: you can get four of them for twenty bucks, two
1:48:16
Speaker 11: for ten. But I'm probably certain that they're you know,
1:48:22
Speaker 11: not healthy at all really because they're deep fried. But
1:48:26
Speaker 11: they come from Santa Ni. So I tell myself, oh,
1:48:29
Speaker 11: they have to be they have to be healthy. They
1:48:31
Speaker 11: are loaded with euro meat. That is the only thing
1:48:35
Speaker 11: in these crunch rolls so like egg rolls with euro meat,
1:48:39
Speaker 11: and I have not tried those. Give those a try
1:48:42
Speaker 11: some some evening. I'm gonna have to do that.
1:48:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're not here to talk about Mediterranean food.
1:48:48
Speaker 2: We're here to talk about Mammoth hockey. They start this
1:48:51
Speaker 2: homestand with the Ottawa Senators. I want to get to
1:48:54
Speaker 2: that here in a second. Utah's favorites in this game.
1:48:58
Speaker 2: We're expecting some goalscoring this game, but there is a
1:49:03
Speaker 2: there's a special press conference happening today at four pm
1:49:06
Speaker 2: at rece Cycle Stadium. NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman Ryan Smith.
1:49:11
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people I think this means
1:49:14
Speaker 2: an announcement of some kind is coming to Salt Lake City.
1:49:17
Speaker 2: Could be something pertaining to the upcoming Olympics and NHL
1:49:21
Speaker 2: participation there, I suppose. But Betman's intown. What's it going
1:49:27
Speaker 2: to be.
1:49:27
Speaker 11: Well, I've got my I've got my mammoth jacket here.
1:49:31
Speaker 11: I also, as you see, i've got my overcoat here. Yes,
1:49:34
Speaker 11: because the press conference is going to be outside, so
1:49:38
Speaker 11: I am going to be bundled up. I stopped off
1:49:43
Speaker 11: after morning skate and picked up my overcoat because I'm like, gosh,
1:49:48
Speaker 11: it's kind of getting cold. There's there's a storm rolling in.
1:49:52
Speaker 11: We've got first Alert weather on every station in town here.
1:49:56
Speaker 11: I'm like, gosh, if I'm gonna be outside, I need
1:50:00
Speaker 11: my overcoat to this. You know, sleek, fancy, fashionable mammoth
1:50:07
Speaker 11: jacket might not keep me as warm as I need
1:50:11
Speaker 11: to be. So we'll be outside. Gary Batman, Ryan Smith,
1:50:15
Speaker 11: Ashley Smith, Logan Cooley, who's currently injured for the Mammoth
1:50:19
Speaker 11: not playing, He's going to be up at the presser
1:50:22
Speaker 11: four o'clock excited to see what they have for us.
1:50:27
Speaker 2: So look, Rice Cycle Stadium has been talked about as
1:50:34
Speaker 2: a potential site for outdoor games Winter Classic type games,
1:50:38
Speaker 2: outdoor games, and Ryan Smith is not one to go
1:50:43
Speaker 2: to Rice Cycle Stadium just for fun. So whether smoke,
1:50:48
Speaker 2: there's usually fire. What give me this? What is the
1:50:52
Speaker 2: timeline that the NHL usually announces something like that when
1:50:57
Speaker 2: we hear about Winter Classic sights? Do we hear about
1:51:00
Speaker 2: it a year ahead of time? Five years ahead of time?
1:51:03
Speaker 2: How far ahead did they plan?
1:51:04
Speaker 11: It doesn't seem to be as far out as say
1:51:08
Speaker 11: an Olympic Games, right. It usually seems that the next
1:51:15
Speaker 11: year's announced right around.
1:51:18
Speaker 2: The current years.
1:51:19
Speaker 11: Okay, all right, So we had the current year Winter
1:51:22
Speaker 11: Classic in Sunrise or Not Sunrise, Florida, Miami, Florida went
1:51:26
Speaker 11: all the way to Miami.
1:51:28
Speaker 2: All the way to Miami, which is like it's like
1:51:29
Speaker 2: an hour from Sunrise. It is so far seems like
1:51:33
Speaker 2: a different state. Sunrise is on the outskirts of the
1:51:39
Speaker 2: Miami Dade Fort Lauderdale area and it is on the
1:51:43
Speaker 2: border of the Everglades out there where the Florida Panthers play.
1:51:47
Speaker 2: So they played the the Winter Classic on Friday down
1:51:52
Speaker 2: at Loan Shark Stadium where the Miami Marlins played, where
1:51:56
Speaker 2: the Orange Bowl used to be, and it is it's
1:51:59
Speaker 2: deep into Miami. I've made that drive from Sunrise to
1:52:04
Speaker 2: Little Havana before. If we are getting a Winter Classic game,
1:52:09
Speaker 2: what kind of showcases this for not only a franchise,
1:52:14
Speaker 2: but for the host city, the host state. I mean,
1:52:18
Speaker 2: it's a it's a big thing that NHL really pours
1:52:20
Speaker 2: a lot of marketing and time and redesign uniform and
1:52:24
Speaker 2: stuff into these Winter Classics. It's a big event.
1:52:26
Speaker 11: It always feels like kind of the signature event of
1:52:32
Speaker 11: you know that the NHL season gets going right like
1:52:36
Speaker 11: Christmas Day in the NBA, right that that seems like
1:52:39
Speaker 11: there's five games. It's you know, you've been playing for
1:52:42
Speaker 11: a couple months, but you hit Christmas Day. You got
1:52:47
Speaker 11: Kenny and e J and Charles Barkley and Shack they're
1:52:50
Speaker 11: in studio. Haven't seen a lot of them in October November.
1:52:54
Speaker 11: I think for the NHL, the Winter Classic is is
1:52:57
Speaker 11: kind of we've been playing for a couple couple months
1:53:01
Speaker 11: here and New Year's comes around. Now you're gonna start
1:53:05
Speaker 11: seeing hockey starting with the Winter Classic, the Outdoor Game,
1:53:10
Speaker 11: and just the way that the hockey's dressed around the
1:53:14
Speaker 11: networks and you're seeing it in prime time. So I've
1:53:19
Speaker 11: always looked at those games. It's just kind of the signature.
1:53:22
Speaker 11: All right, this is we're getting into the heat of
1:53:25
Speaker 11: the season here.
1:53:29
Speaker 2: All right. It's been a while since we've talked, but
1:53:32
Speaker 2: little East Coast swing, little New York, New Jersey swing
1:53:36
Speaker 2: for the Utah Mammoth and they were able to grab
1:53:38
Speaker 2: a couple of wins, got the points there. They beat
1:53:40
Speaker 2: the Islanders, they beat the Rangers. In between they lost
1:53:43
Speaker 2: for one to the Devils. What'd you see in that
1:53:46
Speaker 2: East Coast swing that you liked and that you didn't
1:53:48
Speaker 2: didn't like.
1:53:49
Speaker 11: The game in New Jersey on Saturday. We can get
1:53:52
Speaker 11: that out of the way right off of the top.
1:53:54
Speaker 11: You're coming off a seven to win against the Islanders
1:53:58
Speaker 11: on New year Year's Day and you know, pucks were
1:54:02
Speaker 11: going in. Oh see, it's funny how how hockey goes.
1:54:05
Speaker 11: The Islanders beat the New Jersey Devils last night by
1:54:09
Speaker 11: account of nine to nothing. When you score seven, eight,
1:54:14
Speaker 11: nine goals in hockey, you know, getting some bounces, some
1:54:18
Speaker 11: pucks that are usually saved. That was That was kind
1:54:21
Speaker 11: of the case for the Mammoth on Thursday. It's just
1:54:24
Speaker 11: kind of a compilation of all right, we deserved a
1:54:27
Speaker 11: few bounces here. They put up seven on the Islanders,
1:54:30
Speaker 11: who then turned around two games later and beat the
1:54:32
Speaker 11: Devils by account of nine to nothing after the Devils
1:54:35
Speaker 11: beat Utah for one.
1:54:37
Speaker 2: So so like that game.
1:54:38
Speaker 11: It probably wasn't a seven to two game, but but
1:54:41
Speaker 11: the Mammoth played well.
1:54:42
Speaker 2: It was a great way to start the trip for me.
1:54:45
Speaker 2: It wasn't you know.
1:54:47
Speaker 11: You look at the schedule and you're like, okay, that's
1:54:49
Speaker 11: an implied win, that's a scheduled win.
1:54:51
Speaker 2: That's a scheduled loss.
1:54:53
Speaker 11: That's probably going to be an implied loss when you
1:54:55
Speaker 11: look at what's happening. That was a must win for
1:54:59
Speaker 11: me to start or the trip out on New Year's Day,
1:55:03
Speaker 11: going out, you got three games on the road, then
1:55:05
Speaker 11: you're home for seven straight and eleven in the next fifteen.
1:55:09
Speaker 11: Go make the initial statement to open twenty twenty six
1:55:12
Speaker 11: on the road. So they did that. Gurl and Milka
1:55:14
Speaker 11: played a great game. Was really hoping that they'd be
1:55:17
Speaker 11: able to take it into New Jersey forty eight hours
1:55:20
Speaker 11: later without having to get on another flight.
1:55:22
Speaker 2: They were in the New York area for.
1:55:26
Speaker 11: The entire trip, without really changing hotels after every game,
1:55:31
Speaker 11: without having to get on the flight, fly four hours
1:55:34
Speaker 11: in the middle of the night somewhere. So I had
1:55:37
Speaker 11: high expectations for that Saturday game. Okay, all right, guys,
1:55:42
Speaker 11: it's not a back to back. You're not at the
1:55:45
Speaker 11: end of a six game trip where you've been all
1:55:47
Speaker 11: over North America. Should be rested, had a good practice
1:55:51
Speaker 11: day on Friday, go in and take the game, and
1:55:53
Speaker 11: they just they just they didn't quite have that level of,
1:55:59
Speaker 11: you know, being able to win a hockey game in
1:56:03
Speaker 11: ways you have to do and controlling momentum situations and
1:56:08
Speaker 11: building off of good offensive shifts. And so they lost
1:56:13
Speaker 11: that game, and then you go into Madison Square Garden
1:56:16
Speaker 11: on Monday, it's like, Okay, well if we win this game,
1:56:18
Speaker 11: everything's fine. You take two or three on the trip,
1:56:21
Speaker 11: that's perfect. That's a perfect trip. And I kind of
1:56:25
Speaker 11: put that game into a category of it was an
1:56:29
Speaker 11: imperfect game, but not because of how they played. I
1:56:32
Speaker 11: liked how they played. They came from behind twice, they
1:56:36
Speaker 11: killed a penalty late, and they won the game three too,
1:56:39
Speaker 11: But there were just kind of a lot of situational
1:56:42
Speaker 11: percentage areas in that hockey game that you don't usually
1:56:45
Speaker 11: win on the road, even if you do play pretty good.
1:56:48
Speaker 11: So I was happy that they were able to keep
1:56:51
Speaker 11: pushing back and find a way to win that game
1:56:54
Speaker 11: and make it two a three.
1:56:55
Speaker 2: Because you make the trip, you take four to six points.
1:57:00
Speaker 2: That's great. One to three doesn't quite have the same
1:57:03
Speaker 2: ring to it. Coming back home that Rangers game, it
1:57:08
Speaker 2: was wild because look, I know that every team in
1:57:10
Speaker 2: any physical sport, and especially in the NHL, and we've
1:57:14
Speaker 2: heard this mammoth management and coaching staff say we want
1:57:16
Speaker 2: to be a physical team. We want. You got to
1:57:19
Speaker 2: know that you're playing us. They got out physical against
1:57:22
Speaker 2: the Rangers pretty significantly. I mean they got out hit
1:57:26
Speaker 2: thirty eight to eighteen in that game and still found
1:57:29
Speaker 2: a way to win it in overtime. Now, I've always
1:57:31
Speaker 2: been of the opinion that if you can win games
1:57:34
Speaker 2: that you play great, everyone does that. Sure, If you
1:57:37
Speaker 2: can win games that's kind of ugly, and you win
1:57:39
Speaker 2: games when you leave a lot left to be desired,
1:57:42
Speaker 2: it's an indication of like, that's a character building type thing.
1:57:46
Speaker 2: That's a finding ways to win in less than ideal scenarios,
1:57:49
Speaker 2: and sometimes those are just as impressive or even more
1:57:51
Speaker 2: impressive than the dominant wins are the perfect performance type wins.
1:57:55
Speaker 2: This one, I couldn't really figure out how I wanted
1:57:58
Speaker 2: to process it because it was like I want to
1:58:00
Speaker 2: call a win lucky because in pro sports they're just
1:58:02
Speaker 2: too hard to attribute much to luck. But it's like, man,
1:58:06
Speaker 2: did you really do we really outplay the Rangers in
1:58:09
Speaker 2: that game and get a win? Or was that one
1:58:11
Speaker 2: of those things that you kind of won despite in
1:58:14
Speaker 2: spite of.
1:58:16
Speaker 7: It?
1:58:16
Speaker 11: Was it was a game where the Mammoth when it
1:58:19
Speaker 11: was even strength five on five, totally dominated, and as
1:58:24
Speaker 11: you said, the Rangers was thirty eight hits. That's a
1:58:27
Speaker 11: team that Utah typically struggles against. They found a way
1:58:30
Speaker 11: to beat them both times on the season series, both
1:58:33
Speaker 11: by three two scores. But I liked how they took
1:58:36
Speaker 11: control in the first period. They had sixteen scoring chances
1:58:39
Speaker 11: within ten to twenty feet of the net and ride
1:58:43
Speaker 11: out on top. It's like, Okay, that's the game you
1:58:45
Speaker 11: want to play. And then you get to the second
1:58:46
Speaker 11: period you take four penalties, and that's kind of where
1:58:50
Speaker 11: we've seen games slip away from Utah this year. You
1:58:53
Speaker 11: play good first period, you come out in the second,
1:58:55
Speaker 11: a couple things happen and that's what costs you the game.
1:58:59
Speaker 11: And it didn't cost him the game here, and I
1:59:03
Speaker 11: kind of felt at the second intermission like, I think
1:59:06
Speaker 11: they're gonna win this game because they're just not They
1:59:11
Speaker 11: don't look shaken like they're they're taking there. They're taking
1:59:14
Speaker 11: the lumps, they're taking the hits literally, but they they
1:59:18
Speaker 11: look okay, they're still playing okay when they're five on five.
1:59:21
Speaker 11: They just took way too many penalties in that second period.
1:59:24
Speaker 11: Then they came out in the third period. We're able
1:59:26
Speaker 11: to tie it up and boy, killing that penalty in
1:59:29
Speaker 11: the final three minutes and fourteen seconds to force the
1:59:32
Speaker 11: game to overtime. That was a real big situational penalty kill.
1:59:38
Speaker 11: There After, the Rangers scored their first two goals of
1:59:40
Speaker 11: the game on various power.
1:59:41
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Speaker 2: what's coming for this Utah Mammoth team from a big
2:00:00
Speaker 2: announcement that's happening right around four pm today at Rice
2:00:04
Speaker 2: Cycle Stadium. You've got this immediate future with a seven
2:00:07
Speaker 2: game homestand as you already talked about, and you should
2:00:11
Speaker 2: be able to pile up some points here the way
2:00:13
Speaker 2: this schedule lays out, starting with Ottawa. What should we
2:00:16
Speaker 2: expect tonight?
2:00:18
Speaker 11: A team that is pretty similar to Utah And I'd
2:00:22
Speaker 11: love to hear the feedback from the fans and from
2:00:26
Speaker 11: you watching the game tonight. Do you feel like Ottawa
2:00:31
Speaker 11: is kind of Utah? I think that's kind of how
2:00:35
Speaker 11: they match up. The Senators might have a little more physicality,
2:00:43
Speaker 11: but it's a team that Utah has never beaten.
2:00:48
Speaker 2: They know that.
2:00:50
Speaker 11: I think they've looked at the games they haven't beaten Ottawa,
2:00:55
Speaker 11: especially the first one of this season that they played
2:00:58
Speaker 11: in November. There it's like, oh, they do some stuff
2:01:02
Speaker 11: really well that we didn't necessarily handle the best just
2:01:08
Speaker 11: playing a team for the first time. I think they've
2:01:11
Speaker 11: made some adjustments just watching morning skate today on things
2:01:16
Speaker 11: like getting through the neutral zone on Ottawa if you
2:01:20
Speaker 11: want to watch that during the game. So I think
2:01:22
Speaker 11: that's one thing to check out. But I think they're
2:01:24
Speaker 11: going to be juice to get back home, and you
2:01:27
Speaker 11: know how it is, Oh see, you get back from
2:01:29
Speaker 11: a trip.
2:01:29
Speaker 2: The first game back is kind.
2:01:30
Speaker 11: Of a trap game usually because you're like, oh, we're home.
2:01:34
Speaker 11: The relief exhale. Sixty five percent of the rest of
2:01:38
Speaker 11: the games going to be at home. So head coach
2:01:40
Speaker 11: Andre Turney always pointing out like you got to be
2:01:43
Speaker 11: on your toes, especially in this first game and the
2:01:47
Speaker 11: matchup against Ottawa. They're they're not in the top three
2:01:53
Speaker 11: in their division, but they're they're a team that throughout
2:01:56
Speaker 11: the course of the season they haven't won more than
2:02:00
Speaker 11: four in a row. They've had a four game winning streak,
2:02:02
Speaker 11: but outside of that, they haven't won more than two
2:02:03
Speaker 11: in a row, and they really haven't lost more than
2:02:08
Speaker 11: two in a row. They've had one, two, three, four,
2:02:10
Speaker 11: three game winless skits. But they're they're pretty steady. And
2:02:14
Speaker 11: they've been without their captain, Brady Kachuck for most of
2:02:18
Speaker 11: the first half. He's now back. They're without their starting
2:02:20
Speaker 11: goaltender Linis Olmark, so they've had some goaltending challenges, and
2:02:27
Speaker 11: you look at this game for the Mammoth, I think
2:02:30
Speaker 11: I think they're ready to beat Ottawa for the first time.
2:02:34
Speaker 11: And the Senators are starting a tough back to back
2:02:37
Speaker 11: here tonight. They're here in Salt Lake City tonight and
2:02:41
Speaker 11: they're in Colorado tomorrow, so we'll see how they manage
2:02:45
Speaker 11: that in terms of their embattled goaltending that they've got.
2:02:52
Speaker 2: So at this point in the season, you kind of
2:02:55
Speaker 2: you probably are who you are, right And in terms
2:02:59
Speaker 2: of I guess player contribution, I wouldn't expect anyone to
2:03:03
Speaker 2: have some totally different surge of production or anything like that,
2:03:09
Speaker 2: but it's been nice to see I think Gunther kind
2:03:12
Speaker 2: of rounding into I mean quite literally mid season form
2:03:16
Speaker 2: at least, is there any meat left on the bone
2:03:23
Speaker 2: for you with any particular player or maybe one of
2:03:27
Speaker 2: the particular lines that you think is just ready to
2:03:30
Speaker 2: break out again. I don't think that you're gonna get
2:03:33
Speaker 2: some addition or somebody's gonna magically get healthier and do
2:03:38
Speaker 2: something that we didn't think they were even capable of
2:03:41
Speaker 2: to this point in the season. But if you're gonna
2:03:44
Speaker 2: make a playoff run, and if you're gonna use these
2:03:48
Speaker 2: next seven home games to your advantage and pile up
2:03:50
Speaker 2: the points necessary, is their meat left on the bone somewhere?
2:03:55
Speaker 11: I would start with the third line osee of Michael Carconi,
2:04:00
Speaker 11: Jack McBain and Daniel Boot. Carconi is a guy that
2:04:04
Speaker 11: has surpassed his goal total from last year.
2:04:06
Speaker 2: It was seven.
2:04:06
Speaker 11: He's got eight, but he had twenty one goals two
2:04:09
Speaker 11: years ago. And he has really started to, you know,
2:04:17
Speaker 11: get back to where he was two years ago, and
2:04:20
Speaker 11: that is by just being a maniac. Like watch him
2:04:26
Speaker 11: at the Della Center tonight when he's on the ice
2:04:28
Speaker 11: and he's got the scoring touch, but he's also going
2:04:31
Speaker 11: to go in and rip the puck away from a
2:04:34
Speaker 11: guy who looks like he has a clean exit out
2:04:37
Speaker 11: of the Utah offensive zone and then turn that into
2:04:41
Speaker 11: a play that creates offense. So watch for Michael Carconi's
2:04:45
Speaker 11: he works so hard. He's he's a little guy. I'd
2:04:48
Speaker 11: say he's our size, Sean, but you're you know, you're
2:04:52
Speaker 11: the size of a regular person. But he's my size. Okay,
2:04:57
Speaker 11: I think I'm taller than him too. I've done a
2:04:59
Speaker 11: number interviews with Mike and I've always sized I'm like,
2:05:02
Speaker 11: I think I'm taller than you. So you got Carconi
2:05:05
Speaker 11: who plays with Jack mcpain, who's fifth in the NHL
2:05:08
Speaker 11: and hits. But I also think he's due for some
2:05:11
Speaker 11: more goals too, because his shooting percentage is lower than
2:05:16
Speaker 11: his expected goals. Interesting and Daniel Boot, I've made this promise.
2:05:21
Speaker 11: I've made this promise on Hockey Night in Utah. I'm
2:05:24
Speaker 11: gonna make it to the fans and the listeners here
2:05:26
Speaker 11: on ESPN seven hundred. I think Daniel Boots in store
2:05:30
Speaker 11: for five goals in a five game stretch before this
2:05:33
Speaker 11: season's done. He creates so much offense. He's always in
2:05:39
Speaker 11: front of the net. He's got one goal this season.
2:05:43
Speaker 11: On thirty three shots.
2:05:44
Speaker 5: He just he.
2:05:45
Speaker 2: Scored that lone goal like two weeks ago. Now you're
2:05:48
Speaker 2: saying five and five, Yeah, I watch out for that.
2:05:51
Speaker 2: I think it's coming. I have thirty nine games for
2:05:55
Speaker 2: this to happen. Oh see.
2:05:57
Speaker 11: But I think we're gonna have a five game stretch
2:06:00
Speaker 11: this year where Boot gets five goals in five games
2:06:03
Speaker 11: and the offense starts converting for him that he's creating.
2:06:08
Speaker 2: All right, So I'll let you revise your answer next week,
2:06:14
Speaker 2: but for these games will already be in the books
2:06:16
Speaker 2: when that happens. So Ottawa, Saint Louis, Columbus, Toronto, Dallas, Seattle, Philly,
2:06:23
Speaker 2: before you head back out on the road against Nashville, Tampa, Florida,
2:06:26
Speaker 2: and Carolina, focusing on those home games seven in a
2:06:30
Speaker 2: row on home ice at the Delta Center. A crowd
2:06:33
Speaker 2: that hasn't seen you in a while, is its excited
2:06:35
Speaker 2: to get you back, probably juiced up by a certain
2:06:39
Speaker 2: announcement that happens today. How many points do they need
2:06:44
Speaker 2: to come away with on this homestand I'd like ten,
2:06:48
Speaker 2: five out of seven, right, that seems doable.
2:06:51
Speaker 11: That's a seven to fourteen points percentage of seven to
2:06:54
Speaker 11: fourteen winning percentage.
2:06:57
Speaker 2: I'd like five of seven.
2:07:00
Speaker 11: Four to two and one is nine points, three two
2:07:04
Speaker 11: and two is eight points, but i'd like five to seven.
2:07:11
Speaker 11: It's never as easy as it sounds to do that
2:07:16
Speaker 11: on a on a home stretch. You tied a seven
2:07:19
Speaker 11: game or last January that would have been close to
2:07:23
Speaker 11: taken four or five out of seven. They just lost
2:07:26
Speaker 11: a couple games in overtime, and it was a pretty
2:07:29
Speaker 11: similar schedule to this in terms of five of the
2:07:33
Speaker 11: seven teams you're playing not currently being above the playoff line.
2:07:36
Speaker 11: So I'd like five to seven, six and seven as
2:07:41
Speaker 11: as possible. I think this team's ready to to go
2:07:45
Speaker 11: on a run.
2:07:47
Speaker 2: Fingers crossed for that non hockey question for you. Morgan
2:07:52
Speaker 2: Scalley had his introductory press conference yesterday. He's already one
2:07:56
Speaker 2: to know as a head coach, so there's it was
2:07:58
Speaker 2: anti climactic in that sense, but it was great to
2:08:01
Speaker 2: hear Morgan from Morgan and he was unfettered, unfiltered. It
2:08:07
Speaker 2: was great, very emotional in that your thoughts on Morgan
2:08:11
Speaker 2: Scalley's first words as the head coach.
2:08:15
Speaker 11: For me, it started in the Las Vegas Bowl, like
2:08:18
Speaker 11: the identity that Utah football is was what they were
2:08:25
Speaker 11: in the Las Vegas Bowl, and I just I love
2:08:29
Speaker 11: that game, and I thought, that's that's mister football from
2:08:34
Speaker 11: Highland High in nineteen ninety six ninety seven ish Ye
2:08:40
Speaker 11: who played for Ron McBride, who then transitioned to Urban Meyer,
2:08:46
Speaker 11: who has then worked the last twenty plus seasons with
2:08:50
Speaker 11: Kyle Whittingham. And I thought, that's a Utah man, and
2:08:56
Speaker 11: that's Utah.
2:08:57
Speaker 2: Football right there. Feel the same.
2:09:04
Speaker 11: You remember mister football and late nineties at High and High.
2:09:08
Speaker 2: I was a middle schooler when he was mister football.
2:09:12
Speaker 2: And he was also an incredible junior level rugby player.
2:09:17
Speaker 2: That's right. If you look at like the top one
2:09:20
Speaker 2: hundred tries ever scored. They have all these like YouTube
2:09:23
Speaker 2: lists or whatever, and one of his from like an
2:09:26
Speaker 2: invitational tournament in South Africa is is on that list.
2:09:32
Speaker 2: You can still find it on the internet. He is. Yeah,
2:09:36
Speaker 2: Morgan's the man.
2:09:38
Speaker 11: Maybe maybe he's the defensive coordinator, maybe as an assistant
2:09:41
Speaker 11: coach for me at least, right because I'm not up
2:09:44
Speaker 11: at every practice and in person at every game, I'm thinking, man,
2:09:51
Speaker 11: we had this, we knew we had this, but haven't
2:09:56
Speaker 11: seen him front and center the way we did as
2:10:01
Speaker 11: a player in the Fiesta Bowl and when when he
2:10:05
Speaker 11: was front and center as a star at Utah. He's
2:10:08
Speaker 11: been a part of the program. The day to day
2:10:12
Speaker 11: are like me just hasn't seen him every day. So
2:10:15
Speaker 11: seeing that Vegas ball just gave me like, ah, this
2:10:18
Speaker 11: is this is Utah football, this is this is gonna
2:10:20
Speaker 11: be great.
2:10:21
Speaker 2: And people are very upset to me right now because
2:10:24
Speaker 2: I sent out one of those vague eyeball emoji tweets. Again,
2:10:34
Speaker 2: some good things are coming Utah's way. I'll just leave
2:10:37
Speaker 2: it alone until until announcements are official and until things
2:10:42
Speaker 2: are completely figured out. There's some good stuff happening for Utah,
2:10:47
Speaker 2: and I know that folks want us to be realistic
2:10:49
Speaker 2: about it, and I I think that's important because it
2:10:53
Speaker 2: would be unfair to Morgan to be like, yeah, it's
2:10:56
Speaker 2: just gonna be Kyle Whittingham two point zero and we're
2:10:59
Speaker 2: just gonna to continue on this road and ten wins
2:11:02
Speaker 2: is the floor and things like that, like he's a
2:11:04
Speaker 2: first time head coach. People, so I'm going to be
2:11:07
Speaker 2: realistic about my expectations. But all signs pointing to the
2:11:13
Speaker 2: fact that Morgan is going to have some really good
2:11:17
Speaker 2: support and some really good players. So fingers crossed here
2:11:23
Speaker 2: for it. Thanks for coming in. It's always great talking
2:11:26
Speaker 2: to you. Thanks so see appreciate it. Man. We'll see
2:11:28
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Speaker 2: On the Sean o'connells Show, I want to discuss a
2:11:51
Speaker 2: little bit more this college football contracts thing because Ross
2:11:56
Speaker 2: Dellinger had some excellent reporting what Washington and the Big
2:12:00
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Speaker 2: So we were talking about this Demon Williams situation, and look,
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2:13:49
Speaker 2: so far at Washington. And he had signed a new
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Speaker 2: deal with the Washington Huskies, which is still a very
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Speaker 2: strange thing to say in college football, but that's what
2:14:02
Speaker 2: the kids do now. By the way, way, Shawn Parker
2:14:05
Speaker 2: let us know earlier today that he has signed his
2:14:08
Speaker 2: new deal with the University of Utah. So great, great
2:14:10
Speaker 2: news there, and Ross Ellenser is doing a bunch of
2:14:15
Speaker 2: really good reporting on this, as Washington doesn't. After four
2:14:22
Speaker 2: days after Demon Williams announced that he was re signing
2:14:26
Speaker 2: with Washington, he then put his name in the transfer portal,
2:14:30
Speaker 2: or announced he was in the transfer portal. And to
2:14:34
Speaker 2: make this a little bit yuckier or a lot bit yuckier,
2:14:38
Speaker 2: he did so while the rest of the team, or
2:14:42
Speaker 2: a large number of the Huskies team was at the
2:14:46
Speaker 2: celebration of life service for Mia Hammond, who was a
2:14:52
Speaker 2: Huskies goalkeeper who passed away from rare cancer and was
2:14:57
Speaker 2: like kind of a big figure in the sports community
2:15:01
Speaker 2: at the University of Washington. And so again you almost
2:15:06
Speaker 2: don't blame the kid with this, because your agent and
2:15:10
Speaker 2: your PR team and whatever else are probably helping you
2:15:14
Speaker 2: determine when you want to put an announcement out. But
2:15:17
Speaker 2: that's when the announcement went out. His coaches and his
2:15:20
Speaker 2: teammates were at a memorial service for Mia Hammond. And
2:15:26
Speaker 2: then when they leave this place, they pull out their
2:15:29
Speaker 2: instagrams and their phones and they see that their teammate,
2:15:33
Speaker 2: their starting quarterback whatever, has put his name in the
2:15:36
Speaker 2: transfer portal, and Washington was like, no, no, you signed
2:15:40
Speaker 2: a deal with us, your staying. So apparently the Big
2:15:45
Speaker 2: Ten is now providing document templates for their universities to
2:15:52
Speaker 2: have athletes sign. When you reach an ANIL deal, when
2:15:55
Speaker 2: you reach a revenue share deal with the prominent athlete,
2:15:58
Speaker 2: or I guess even with a non prominent athlete, there's letterhead. Effectively,
2:16:02
Speaker 2: there's a template that the Big Ten wants you to
2:16:05
Speaker 2: use that The Big Ten anticipated this problem, saw that
2:16:09
Speaker 2: you had to have some level of enforceability on these contracts,
2:16:13
Speaker 2: and so they are providing these templates with their legal team,
2:16:16
Speaker 2: providing these templates for the league members to say, hey,
2:16:19
Speaker 2: use this and then hopefully your one year rev share agreement,
2:16:25
Speaker 2: which is a one year agreement according to the reporting,
2:16:30
Speaker 2: worth about four million dollars, is a binding contract. So
2:16:38
Speaker 2: now we're talking about like a real legal battle here.
2:16:41
Speaker 2: Potentially Washington is going to have to figure out whether
2:16:45
Speaker 2: they just want to let this kid who doesn't want
2:16:47
Speaker 2: to be there, who probably is mad with the way
2:16:49
Speaker 2: people are reacting to his announcement, who probably hasn't had
2:16:54
Speaker 2: a bunch of positive feedback from Husky fans. Jedfish's wife,
2:16:58
Speaker 2: his coach's wife, called the move disgusting, which is not
2:17:02
Speaker 2: helping the case if they want to build this bridge
2:17:05
Speaker 2: back and they want amend the fence. So now Washington
2:17:10
Speaker 2: and Demon Williams might be the most prominent, loud example
2:17:15
Speaker 2: of something that has happened previously in college football. Georgia
2:17:19
Speaker 2: was dealing with this, Texas A and m dealt with this,
2:17:22
Speaker 2: Miami dealt with this. Nebraska's dealing with this right now.
2:17:26
Speaker 2: Where you think you have something binding and in writing,
2:17:29
Speaker 2: and then somebody says, no, no, I'm off, I'm doing
2:17:31
Speaker 2: something else. Is it enforceable? Is it something that you
2:17:37
Speaker 2: can somehow recoup a lost costs cost? Can you, if
2:17:42
Speaker 2: you're Washington, get value back out of Demon Williams? Obviously
2:17:47
Speaker 2: you don't pay him the four million dollars if he's
2:17:49
Speaker 2: not there. But you thought that you had your quarterback
2:17:52
Speaker 2: situation figured out, and I'm gonna go out on a
2:17:57
Speaker 2: limb and say that Washington's not likely to be in
2:18:00
Speaker 2: the same type of situation that hopefully knock on. Would
2:18:04
Speaker 2: we find Utah in where if your presumed starter isn't there,
2:18:08
Speaker 2: the presumed backup is also electric. That's prohibitively rare in
2:18:14
Speaker 2: college football. So what does Washington do. We've invested time, effort, emotion, attention,
2:18:22
Speaker 2: and real money four million dollar promise into you, and
2:18:26
Speaker 2: now you're saying, I don't want to be here. So
2:18:29
Speaker 2: now what do we gotta do?
2:18:30
Speaker 3: Now?
2:18:30
Speaker 2: We got to go find this four million dollars that
2:18:33
Speaker 2: you're not gonna take. Okay, you're sure you're not gonna
2:18:35
Speaker 2: take it. You don't want it. We're okay. Now we're
2:18:37
Speaker 2: gonna go find someone else to give it to. Now
2:18:39
Speaker 2: we're gonna go see what the incarnate word quarterback is doing.
2:18:44
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna call Devin dan Pier and try and
2:18:47
Speaker 2: lure him away. Like it's a mess. And it is
2:18:52
Speaker 2: a mess that the Big ten and Washington are having
2:18:57
Speaker 2: to figure out. They're reportedly meeting with the demon Williams
2:19:02
Speaker 2: representatives later today. This is ross Ellens are reporting, and
2:19:08
Speaker 2: they got to figure out, all right, if this cost
2:19:11
Speaker 2: is significant enough to us? And he had no contact
2:19:14
Speaker 2: clause in his transfer portal entrance as well or no
2:19:17
Speaker 2: contact request, which usually suggests he already knows where he's going,
2:19:22
Speaker 2: and you only know where you're going if you've already
2:19:24
Speaker 2: gott an offer from somebody else. And a lot of
2:19:27
Speaker 2: people are linking Williams to LSU, And we don't have
2:19:31
Speaker 2: any idea, but most of us believe that Lane Kiffen
2:19:34
Speaker 2: is exactly the type of guy that's making those types
2:19:37
Speaker 2: of phone calls and doing the kind of tampering you're
2:19:39
Speaker 2: not supposed to be doing, but no one's really enforcing
2:19:41
Speaker 2: it anyway, so everyone's kind of doing it. It comes
2:19:46
Speaker 2: to a head at some point. I don't know if
2:19:48
Speaker 2: this is the case that makes it. It comes to
2:19:50
Speaker 2: a head at some point in college football. Maybe it's
2:19:52
Speaker 2: maybe Washington's not powerful enough, Maybe even the Big Ten
2:19:56
Speaker 2: support of Washington is not sincere enough that this will
2:19:59
Speaker 2: be the thing where people finally say, Okay, we have
2:20:04
Speaker 2: to fix this system because he's I mean, he's a
2:20:07
Speaker 2: good player. But this is not like arch Manning signing
2:20:10
Speaker 2: a deal and then leaving. This is different. Is it
2:20:17
Speaker 2: going to be a thing that sends ripples beyond the
2:20:21
Speaker 2: Big Ten to the SEC, to the Big twelve to
2:20:24
Speaker 2: BYU in Utah or is this one of those things
2:20:28
Speaker 2: where demon Williams eventually comes to an agreement with Washington says,
2:20:33
Speaker 2: all right, you paid me a million dollars this last year.
2:20:36
Speaker 2: I violated my contract that I just signed with you
2:20:39
Speaker 2: for this coming year. How About how about we settle
2:20:44
Speaker 2: this thing. I give you one hundred grand back and
2:20:46
Speaker 2: you just leave me alone because I don't want to
2:20:48
Speaker 2: be here. If you forced me to be your quarterback,
2:20:50
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a bunch of picks. I'm gonna screw
2:20:52
Speaker 2: this thing. I really don't know where this goes, but
2:20:56
Speaker 2: it could be one of those kind of watershed moments
2:21:00
Speaker 2: in the enforceability of nil contracts or lack thereof in
2:21:04
Speaker 2: college football. Because if nothing happens to Demon Williams and
2:21:08
Speaker 2: he just gets his way and these contracts mean actually nothing,
2:21:15
Speaker 2: what do you do? What do you do with college
2:21:18
Speaker 2: football moving forward? If if kids can sign a deal
2:21:23
Speaker 2: and then four days later be like, ah, just kidding,
2:21:26
Speaker 2: and there's no penalty for that. That what's the point
2:21:30
Speaker 2: of having contracts anyway? If there's nothing enforcible about this?
2:21:36
Speaker 2: Is it even a contract? What should we call it instead?
2:21:40
Speaker 2: Loose agreement? Yeah? Like, is this like the George Khlovkov Alliance?
2:21:46
Speaker 2: Is that where you were going with her? A handshake? Deal?
2:21:50
Speaker 2: Is there anything in writing? Remember when he was asking
2:21:52
Speaker 2: each other in the eyes? Remember when he was asked,
2:21:55
Speaker 2: is there anything in writing? Don't need anything in writing?
2:21:57
Speaker 2: We looked each other in the eyes. Honesty, integrity, alliance, alliance.
2:22:05
Speaker 2: Oh really, okay, I'm sure that'll work out. Lasted a
2:22:09
Speaker 2: little longer than four days, but not that not that long. Yeah.
2:22:13
Speaker 1: I love that we have the exact same thought at
2:22:15
Speaker 1: the same time. Oh see, yeah, I wonder if it's
2:22:19
Speaker 1: not if if this isn't the thing that makes us
2:22:25
Speaker 1: make these things more enforceable, or makes schools they're collectives.
2:22:29
Speaker 1: Whoever it might be, say hold hold the hold the
2:22:34
Speaker 1: kids and their representation to the fire when they do
2:22:37
Speaker 1: something like this, I don't know, like, would it be
2:22:42
Speaker 1: would it have to take an Ohio State quarterback? Would
2:22:45
Speaker 1: it have to take you know, knock on wood Julian's
2:22:47
Speaker 1: saying doing something like this, or Jeremiah Smith doing something
2:22:52
Speaker 1: like this, would it have to be, would it have
2:22:56
Speaker 1: to be in Alabama?
2:22:57
Speaker 2: Whatever?
2:22:58
Speaker 1: A ty Simpson just just declared that he's that he's
2:23:00
Speaker 1: gonna enter the NFL draft. But if it was Tys
2:23:04
Speaker 1: Simpson who was at one point of Heisman favorite this
2:23:07
Speaker 1: season and a really good quarterback for Alabama this year.
2:23:11
Speaker 1: If it if it's was him doing this, would that
2:23:15
Speaker 1: be the kind of thing? Would that be that kind
2:23:17
Speaker 1: of program? Would it be Notre Dame? Like I I'm
2:23:21
Speaker 1: not even certain if that if something like that happened
2:23:24
Speaker 1: at one of those huge blue bud programs. Oh see,
2:23:28
Speaker 1: if that would have been it would if that would
2:23:30
Speaker 1: be enough. But you're right, it doesn't. It does feel
2:23:33
Speaker 1: like there could be an excuse made here. Well it's it's.
2:23:36
Speaker 2: Washington's important, but it's they're not Ohio State, they're not Alabama.
2:23:40
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they're like if you're only going
2:23:43
Speaker 2: to care when it's I mean, look, we don't care
2:23:47
Speaker 2: right now. College football is enough of a mess that
2:23:50
Speaker 2: people are not making a big enough stink about the
2:23:53
Speaker 2: fact that Ole Miss is in a semi final this
2:23:56
Speaker 2: week and they're doing so on like a skeleton crew
2:24:00
Speaker 2: of coaches. Yeah, because the guy who coached them to
2:24:04
Speaker 2: this point left them early, and then not only did
2:24:08
Speaker 2: he do that and say I'm removing myself, he's also
2:24:11
Speaker 2: like six assistants are coming with me. I'll lend you
2:24:14
Speaker 2: two of them back I'm not trying to set you
2:24:17
Speaker 2: up for success. Hey, can you come transfer to LSU
2:24:20
Speaker 2: with me? And all the kids are just like, no,
2:24:23
Speaker 2: why would I want to follow You're you're actively screwing
2:24:26
Speaker 2: me over right now? Why would I want to follow you?
2:24:29
Speaker 2: We're trying to win a natty dude. Well, yeah, but
2:24:32
Speaker 2: we'll do that at LSU. Why did you go to
2:24:34
Speaker 2: LSU to do that right when you can do it
2:24:36
Speaker 2: right now? Literally, you could be trying to do that today.
2:24:41
Speaker 1: You know the you know the phrase, hey, Lane, Lane,
2:24:44
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of the phrase? A burden hand
2:24:47
Speaker 1: is better than two in the bush? You're going for
2:24:49
Speaker 1: the two in the bush here? My guy like, we
2:24:51
Speaker 1: we've got a potential burden hand here. No, It's it's
2:24:56
Speaker 1: also crazy that ole miss was like, no, you can't coach.
2:25:01
Speaker 1: But then it's like of a Charlie Weist Junior. Will
2:25:03
Speaker 1: you stick around please?
2:25:05
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I'm gonna stand on. I understand why you
2:25:08
Speaker 2: would just be like you don't want to be hold on.
2:25:11
Speaker 2: We gave you all the resources and all the support,
2:25:14
Speaker 2: and you did a heck of a job. And we,
2:25:17
Speaker 2: by the way, we'd offered to match your LSU money
2:25:19
Speaker 2: to stay here and do the thing that you're gonna
2:25:23
Speaker 2: try to do there, but you have a better chance
2:25:27
Speaker 2: of doing it right now here. You don't you want
2:25:31
Speaker 2: to go there instead? No, you can't be here, then
2:25:33
Speaker 2: get out of my house. Leave.
2:25:35
Speaker 1: But like your top assistant, who is because you're an
2:25:39
Speaker 1: offensive guy?
2:25:40
Speaker 2: Is your guy? Yeah? Can we It's like Lane Kiffin
2:25:45
Speaker 2: went to his pregnant wife who's nine months pregnant, and
2:25:51
Speaker 2: was just like, Hey, I want to have a baby,
2:25:55
Speaker 2: and she's like, okay, yeah, yeah, we're having one. Uh huh,
2:25:58
Speaker 2: that's right, Like we're we're a month away, dude, we're here. Hey,
2:26:04
Speaker 2: I want to have a baby with the neighbor, Lane,
2:26:09
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Isn't working?
2:26:10
Speaker 1: Because I want a baby now? Well I want a
2:26:12
Speaker 1: baby next year.
2:26:14
Speaker 2: Hey, I think that baby might be a little bit prettier,
2:26:18
Speaker 2: and that person seems maybe more fertile, So I could
2:26:22
Speaker 2: have like three babies with that person. But there's no
2:26:25
Speaker 2: reason for you to believe that you couldn't have three
2:26:28
Speaker 2: babies with me, Lane, His analogy is getting weird. I'm
2:26:31
Speaker 2: doing it. I'm going over there really while I'm pregnant.
2:26:36
Speaker 2: You're leaving, Yes, I am. The baby's coming now I
2:26:40
Speaker 2: be there for the birth though, No, you can't be
2:26:42
Speaker 2: there for the birth. Get out of here. That's what
2:26:45
Speaker 2: this is. You just disown this this baby who's not
2:26:48
Speaker 2: even here yet. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Hey, when that
2:26:51
Speaker 2: baby's when that baby's born, ask the baby if they'll
2:26:55
Speaker 2: come live across the street with me. And that's like
2:27:00
Speaker 2: to Mom's like, no, what, no, weird, you're freaking me out.
2:27:03
Speaker 9: Man.
2:27:04
Speaker 1: But Charlie Weiss Junior is staying on staff is like,
2:27:06
Speaker 1: but my sister can live with you.
2:27:08
Speaker 7: Well.
2:27:08
Speaker 2: The thing is, I think old miss realize like, yeah,
2:27:12
Speaker 2: I want to take a stand. I want to get
2:27:13
Speaker 2: Laye out of here. Okay, I understand, only to call
2:27:17
Speaker 2: and then they're just like, oh crap, standing on principle
2:27:21
Speaker 2: actually could handicap this team further. So, ah, can we
2:27:25
Speaker 2: borrow that back. It's the dumbest thing that's happening in
2:27:28
Speaker 2: college sports right now. But to circle it back to
2:27:30
Speaker 2: the Demon Williams situation, if you're not actually bothered by
2:27:39
Speaker 2: something unless it happens with an arch manning type player,
2:27:42
Speaker 2: or if it happens with like a Fernanda Mendoza or
2:27:46
Speaker 2: with a Notre Dame guy or whatever, then You're just
2:27:52
Speaker 2: gonna let this weird stuff continue in college football until
2:27:55
Speaker 2: and you're gonna hate it when it happens, right, NC
2:27:58
Speaker 2: double A every universe, You're gonna loathe this when it happens.
2:28:02
Speaker 2: You're gonna despise it. But you keep pushing it in
2:28:04
Speaker 2: this direction until everyone throws their hands up and says,
2:28:07
Speaker 2: all right, it's a pro league collective bargaining, and then
2:28:11
Speaker 2: you just have NFL light and you're gonna hate it
2:28:14
Speaker 2: so much when it happens. But all the decisions up
2:28:17
Speaker 2: to this point are pushing it in that direction. All right,
2:28:21
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Speaker 12: Hi, correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't Brian Reagan here
2:29:43
Speaker 12: on Valentine's Day?
2:29:44
Speaker 2: Yeah? See when I think love, I think Brian Reagan. Same. Yeah,
2:29:48
Speaker 2: maybe it's just consensus. I mean, you you want a
2:29:52
Speaker 2: nice romantic evening, you know, you want to have a
2:29:55
Speaker 2: little bit of enjoyable finish to your night. You go
2:29:58
Speaker 2: to Brian Reagan. What would you your wife say? If
2:30:01
Speaker 2: you like, babe, I made plans for Valentine's Day. She's like, oh, oh, honey,
2:30:05
Speaker 2: that's so sweet. What'd you do?
2:30:07
Speaker 12: We're going to Red Rock and then we're walking across
2:30:09
Speaker 12: the street to see Brian Reagan at the Delta Center.
2:30:12
Speaker 2: I think she'd respond, Can I tell you something? She's
2:30:15
Speaker 2: a fan? Guess what my wife got me for Christmas?
2:30:20
Speaker 2: Brian Reagan tickets on Valentine's Stop it? Are you serious? Yes?
2:30:25
Speaker 5: Wait?
2:30:26
Speaker 12: Wait, wait, then maybe I should ask are you like
2:30:28
Speaker 12: a fan? Are you like a big Brian Reagan guy?
2:30:32
Speaker 12: My wife listening at one fifteen chance? Oh yeah, I'm
2:30:39
Speaker 12: a big fan. Oh okay, Well, have a great time, Sean.
2:30:43
Speaker 12: I cannot wait. I'm excited for you. So we're getting
2:30:46
Speaker 12: a little loose with analogies today. I understand during the
2:30:49
Speaker 12: brain it's that loose. It's an accurate analogy. Please unpack
2:30:53
Speaker 12: it the way you did on air, because I had
2:30:54
Speaker 12: to get out of the car to, you know, to
2:30:55
Speaker 12: walk upstairs.
2:30:56
Speaker 2: Lane Kit. We were talking about this whole situation of
2:30:59
Speaker 2: college football. We're not reacting to things. We're not The
2:31:03
Speaker 2: integrity of the game is gone. Old Miss is going
2:31:06
Speaker 2: to be coaching with coaches on loan from LSU, who were,
2:31:11
Speaker 2: of course coaches at Old Miss all season, and they
2:31:14
Speaker 2: are competing Spence for Old Miss. This is in the
2:31:18
Speaker 2: modern year of college football. This is the most important
2:31:20
Speaker 2: game they've ever played. Yeah, for sure, for sure, no doubt,
2:31:24
Speaker 2: and their coach left them. So I said, you know
2:31:27
Speaker 2: what we know what it's like for old Miss is
2:31:30
Speaker 2: that Ole Miss was the pregnant wife that Lane Kiffin
2:31:35
Speaker 2: came to and he said, hey, I want to have
2:31:37
Speaker 2: a baby, and Ole Miss is like, yep, it's going
2:31:40
Speaker 2: to be great that we're going to the playoffs and
2:31:42
Speaker 2: we got a chance to compete for this national championship.
2:31:45
Speaker 2: All signs put in the right direction, baby all the way.
2:31:48
Speaker 2: And Lane Kiffin's like, yep, but not with you over there.
2:31:51
Speaker 2: It's a perfect now. So Lane Kiffin is now in
2:31:54
Speaker 2: pregnating Lsu.
2:31:56
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what he's doing. Okay, all right, just he
2:31:58
Speaker 12: wanted to follow us through the end. Well, James reminded us,
2:32:01
Speaker 12: the crosstalk can get weird. Scott Mitchell wants alluded to
2:32:03
Speaker 12: the fact that he may have had a dream where
2:32:05
Speaker 12: I wasn't wearing any clothes, so maybe we just crosstalk
2:32:09
Speaker 12: moving forward?
2:32:10
Speaker 2: Was that weird? We you don't think that's weird?
2:32:13
Speaker 12: Why is that weird that Scott Mitchell had a dream
2:32:15
Speaker 12: about me nude? I find that weird? Do you not
2:32:19
Speaker 12: find you do not? He who was without sin? I
2:32:21
Speaker 12: suppose let him cast the first time. Maybe Crosstalks should
2:32:25
Speaker 12: just we should just get as weird as we possibly.
2:32:27
Speaker 2: Let's not do that because it could get real weird.
2:32:29
Speaker 2: It could. How many sacks do the Broncos have this year?
2:32:32
Speaker 2: Seven and forty? I have no idea? Correct? Sixty eight
2:32:35
Speaker 2: is a team so close? Good enough for second all
2:32:39
Speaker 2: time in the NFL? H to damn find defense?
2:32:42
Speaker 12: I need to ask you a question though, all right,
2:32:44
Speaker 12: because you were at the pressure yesterday, I was some
2:32:46
Speaker 12: of us had to stay back here and grind and
2:32:48
Speaker 12: work to keep the station on the tracks.
2:32:52
Speaker 2: Oh, congrats that you showed up for your actual shift.
2:32:55
Speaker 2: I stayed after. Mind, did you really for the Morgan
2:32:58
Speaker 2: Scaly press conference? Yeah?
2:32:59
Speaker 12: That was I don't think that could have gone better
2:33:02
Speaker 12: for him. No, and it is who Morgan is. But
2:33:06
Speaker 12: I just wanted to get your take because it's different.
2:33:08
Speaker 12: I was watching it on YouTube and James and I
2:33:10
Speaker 12: of course were playing it. I mean, it's hard when
2:33:13
Speaker 12: fifty minutes of your show is taken up by a
2:33:15
Speaker 12: press conference, because then you have to, you know, do
2:33:17
Speaker 12: another three hours. But anyway, in person, how did you
2:33:22
Speaker 12: kind of digest the whole thing? I'm not sure it
2:33:23
Speaker 12: could have gotten better for Mortgan.
2:33:24
Speaker 2: No, I thought it was great. I love the unscripted
2:33:26
Speaker 2: nature of it. I love that his emotions got the
2:33:29
Speaker 2: best of him a couple of times. He just that's
2:33:31
Speaker 2: who he is. He didn't pretend he's anything else. I
2:33:34
Speaker 2: think that he genuinely believes that, you know, this team
2:33:38
Speaker 2: can achieve great, great things. And why wouldn't he believe that?
2:33:41
Speaker 2: He's been part of all of the high points in
2:33:44
Speaker 2: Utah football history. Yeah, He's been part of all of it. Yeah, right,
2:33:48
Speaker 2: and he gets to pull from the great coaches that
2:33:51
Speaker 2: we've had, and he gets to now associate with some
2:33:54
Speaker 2: of his former teammates and people that have helped him
2:33:56
Speaker 2: get to this point here. So yeah, Morgan Scalley is
2:34:00
Speaker 2: the relationships he has built with his players and the
2:34:04
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to call it a preservation
2:34:05
Speaker 2: of the culture because it's it's gonna be his culture now,
2:34:08
Speaker 2: and I think it might even be an improvement. I
2:34:10
Speaker 2: think there's a little bit of an injection of excitement
2:34:12
Speaker 2: and fun, which is what's supposed to happen when a
2:34:16
Speaker 2: new coach is announced. But because of the circumstances of
2:34:19
Speaker 2: how this went down and felt like, oh man, is
2:34:22
Speaker 2: this what's going on here? Did we push somebody out
2:34:25
Speaker 2: before he was ready to be pushed out and stuff?
2:34:27
Speaker 2: And like, I'm done with all of that now because
2:34:30
Speaker 2: Morgan is ready. Morgan is the right guy, And no
2:34:35
Speaker 2: other school in the country has this. A dude who
2:34:38
Speaker 2: grew up in the shadow of the stadium cared about
2:34:41
Speaker 2: it since he was five years old, has never been
2:34:44
Speaker 2: anywhere else, no other stadium or excuse me, no other
2:34:47
Speaker 2: school in the country has that. And we've got it.
2:34:51
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ride with that.
2:34:52
Speaker 5: I'm excited.
2:34:53
Speaker 12: Yeah, and he he's made it a point, you know,
2:34:56
Speaker 12: going back to the Vegas Bold media availability, because this
2:34:59
Speaker 12: wasn't the first he's spoken, it was just the introductory
2:35:01
Speaker 12: press conference, to point out that his brand has never changed,
2:35:06
Speaker 12: his logo has never changed. This is not one of
2:35:08
Speaker 12: these BYU Utah retreads or you know, Clonie went to
2:35:12
Speaker 12: Oregon State or whatever. Like, Morgan has always stayed here
2:35:15
Speaker 12: and Markietuaya is now the only coach on Utah's staff
2:35:20
Speaker 12: that has any ties down to BYU. I wonder if
2:35:22
Speaker 12: Morgan's gonna eventually move away from that entirely. I think
2:35:24
Speaker 12: they really love Mark. But let me ask you one
2:35:27
Speaker 12: thing for say you lose, because I was told, and
2:35:30
Speaker 12: this could be just spinning for the situation in front
2:35:33
Speaker 12: of us to be what we're all gonna accept no
2:35:35
Speaker 12: matter what. That even because you talked about the whole
2:35:39
Speaker 12: chaotic news cycle where Wit takes the Michigan job and
2:35:42
Speaker 12: we're all wondering, Okay, who's going to follow him? And
2:35:44
Speaker 12: all these coaches follow him, I was told that even
2:35:47
Speaker 12: if that didn't happen, Morgan badly wanted to bring in
2:35:51
Speaker 12: his own guys.
2:35:51
Speaker 2: Anyway.
2:35:52
Speaker 12: I'm not saying he would have cleaned house, but I
2:35:54
Speaker 12: wonder how many of the coaches that followed Kyle would
2:35:57
Speaker 12: have been retained because I was told Morgan really wanted
2:35:59
Speaker 12: a chance to bring his own his own guys in.
2:36:01
Speaker 2: And that's a natural thing when you become a coach.
2:36:05
Speaker 2: I don't know how you would have made a case
2:36:07
Speaker 2: that you know you're going to get rid of Jim Harding.
2:36:10
Speaker 2: But I also heard that Harding was going to go
2:36:12
Speaker 2: or was going to entertain offers elsewhere, and he already did,
2:36:15
Speaker 2: right yeah, and he's a highly sought Africa guy. So
2:36:18
Speaker 2: I don't think we all have built like this weird
2:36:21
Speaker 2: succession perfect world in our heads and wanted it to
2:36:24
Speaker 2: look exactly like that. But but yes, I think that
2:36:27
Speaker 2: there would have been some attrition from the staff who
2:36:30
Speaker 2: said they're not Morgan Scalley. Guys. I don't want to
2:36:33
Speaker 2: work for Morgan. I wanted to work for his predecessor,
2:36:36
Speaker 2: and now like great, he can hire new people. Would
2:36:40
Speaker 2: he have liked to keep Jason Beck. Yeah, he helped
2:36:42
Speaker 2: identify Jason Beck as the right guy to run the offense,
2:36:45
Speaker 2: so I think he would have stayed. But absolutely some
2:36:49
Speaker 2: change would have happened. And what you got, I think
2:36:52
Speaker 2: is something that we should all be excited about moving
2:36:54
Speaker 2: forward with. I don't think it's going to be perfect
2:36:57
Speaker 2: right away, but he's an inteligent guy. He's a charismatic guy.
2:37:02
Speaker 2: And if you think that Kyle Whittingham could build a
2:37:04
Speaker 2: culture in Ron McBride could build a culture, and Urban
2:37:07
Speaker 2: Meyer could build a culture, then you should also believe
2:37:10
Speaker 2: that Morgan scaly can.
2:37:11
Speaker 12: I was really hoping because I think, by my account,
2:37:14
Speaker 12: Witt has been asked about Ohio State like twenty times.
2:37:17
Speaker 12: I was hoping somebody asked Morgan about BYU during that
2:37:20
Speaker 12: pressure yesterday and when you had the chance to bat
2:37:23
Speaker 12: clean up.
2:37:23
Speaker 2: I thought you might. It was a good question, and
2:37:25
Speaker 2: it was a funny back.
2:37:26
Speaker 12: And forth where like, I'm just as important to the
2:37:28
Speaker 12: program as a former teammates.
2:37:30
Speaker 2: That's right.
2:37:30
Speaker 12: But you know, Morgan did say he yeah, love for Kilani,
2:37:34
Speaker 12: but he has been rather front facing and honest about
2:37:37
Speaker 12: his feelings of the team down south. I was just
2:37:39
Speaker 12: hoping somebody's like, hey, the guy three straight, you know,
2:37:41
Speaker 12: what are your thoughts?
2:37:42
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm sure at some point, Yeah, we will
2:37:45
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to ask Morgan scally about that. And
2:37:48
Speaker 2: I'm actually really glad that we didn't make any of
2:37:50
Speaker 2: yesterday about BYU, and no one even mentioned when the
2:37:53
Speaker 2: nil questions came up, well how do you keep up
2:37:55
Speaker 2: with BYU? Because everyone in the fan base knows that
2:37:58
Speaker 2: that is a concern. But I'm glad that yesterday was
2:38:02
Speaker 2: about the University of Utah and was about Morgan Scalley,
2:38:06
Speaker 2: and we got a great glimpse into who he is
2:38:08
Speaker 2: as a person. Ye, and who he is as a
2:38:10
Speaker 2: person is going to be who he is as a coach. Yeah.
2:38:13
Speaker 2: And by the way, all of that stuff that you
2:38:15
Speaker 2: liked as a fan base, the transparency, the honesty, the
2:38:19
Speaker 2: forthright nature of his comments. Don't ruin this. Please, don't
2:38:25
Speaker 2: take this away from him. Don't take this away from us.
2:38:28
Speaker 2: Don't become the fan base that as soon as he
2:38:31
Speaker 2: makes a mistake or loses a game, you jump off
2:38:34
Speaker 2: the bandwagon and you start making him feel defensive and
2:38:38
Speaker 2: wanting to close down and be more secretive. Cause Spence,
2:38:41
Speaker 2: you know what, I think. I think we're going to
2:38:42
Speaker 2: get to watch practices again.
2:38:44
Speaker 12: You watch your mouth, you think, So that's how optimistic
2:38:47
Speaker 12: I I know.
2:38:47
Speaker 2: You got to go say you lose.
2:38:49
Speaker 12: I am as confident in Morgan as anybody, but I'm
2:38:52
Speaker 12: also realistic that this is the first time he's ever
2:38:54
Speaker 12: done that, done this as far as being a head coach.
2:38:57
Speaker 12: There's a good chance that there's a little bit of
2:38:59
Speaker 12: an acclamation period. And Wit had space to learn, Klonna
2:39:03
Speaker 12: had space to learn. So while we're all confident that
2:39:06
Speaker 12: Utah football is going to be just fine, our guys
2:39:08
Speaker 12: giving me a little space and a little grace to
2:39:10
Speaker 12: learn this job, because everybody does when they take a job.
2:39:12
Speaker 2: For the first time. Not me, but everyone else side you. Yeah, yeah,
2:39:17
Speaker 2: my first radio show, You're the Outlier, was incredible. Yeah, No,
2:39:20
Speaker 2: but you're the outlier. Yeah that's all. Yeah, everyone knows
2:39:23
Speaker 2: that you built different, is what the kids say. Yeah,
2:39:25
Speaker 2: built for this. Yeah, Riz, no cap all right. Stay
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Speaker 2: tuned for the drive with Spence chickets sixty eight sacks
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