Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Lillian Donnelly and Dr. Sarah Andre of Intermountain Health
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- 0:24Welcome to the Becker's healthcare podcast. I'm Mariah
- 0:27Taylor, assistant editor, and I'm thrilled to be
- 0:30interviewing Lillian Donnelly,
- 0:32program manager of nursing professional development, and doctor
- 0:35Sarah Andre,
- 0:36nurse residency
- 0:38program coordinator at Intermountain Health St. Joseph Hospital
- 0:41on the podcast today. Lillian and Sarah, thank
- 0:44you so much for joining me. I talked
- 0:46with Lillian not too long ago about group
- 0:49mentoring and some of the impacts at St.
- 0:51Joseph Hospital, and it's so exciting to be
- 0:54able to sit down with you and just
- 0:55dive a little bit deeper into it. So
- 0:58let's start by giving me a rundown. Lillian,
- 1:01How does group mentoring work at your system?
- 1:05Well, St. Joseph's Hospital
- 1:06initiated new grad nurse mentoring in 02/2018
- 1:10with a lot of leadership support, and we've
- 1:12been had a program
- 1:13since then. It was individualized. It was one
- 1:16to one mentoring, one mentor to one new
- 1:19grad.
- 1:20However, in 02/2022,
- 1:22the composition of our workforce changed after COVID,
- 1:26and we had up to 80%
- 1:28of new nurses on our units, nurses with
- 1:30less than two years
- 1:32of experience, though we were a little hard
- 1:34pressed to find mentors, to find the time
- 1:36to mentor, and we had to come up
- 1:38with a different program.
- 1:40And after a literature search and a little
- 1:42bit of research, I found group mentoring as
- 1:45an option, brought it to my division, brought
- 1:47it to my director. There was a lot
- 1:49of support for it, so we began to
- 1:51run with,
- 1:52two pilot cohorts of our new group mentoring
- 1:55program.
- 1:56We had,
- 1:57two cohorts using new graduates,
- 2:00and we used a transition shock model as
- 2:02our theory base.
- 2:04We had nursing professional development practitioners. They were
- 2:07the mentors for the pilot nurse mentorship program.
- 2:10Their salary, they have professional nursing qualifications.
- 2:13They have communication skills.
- 2:15One of their roles is being a mentor,
- 2:17and so they were just the perfect fit
- 2:19to be mentors.
- 2:20We familiarized
- 2:21them with the transition to shock model so
- 2:24that they would understand the transition from academia
- 2:26to professional nursing practice,
- 2:28and we had mentors lead group mentor sessions
- 2:30on new graduate nurse education days in the
- 2:33classrooms.
- 2:35Currently, we now use nurse mentors instead of
- 2:38nursing professional developmenters
- 2:40because our mentees asked that they would have
- 2:42mentors that were closer to their years in
- 2:45nursing, someone with maybe three or four years
- 2:47of nursing,
- 2:49not a nursing professional development practitioner,
- 2:51and they're compensated via our nursing professional development
- 2:54program
- 2:55with points. So they get points for mentoring
- 2:58in their in their professional development portfolio.
- 3:01The mentors listen to any experiences the new
- 3:03graduate nurses encounter in their practice.
- 3:06They encourage interactive and supportive discussions, and they
- 3:08ensure that each session is a safe space
- 3:11for the nurses to share their experiences.
- 3:13The discussion center on the stages of the
- 3:15model, doing,
- 3:17being, and knowing.
- 3:18We created standardized mentor memos,
- 3:21evaluations,
- 3:22resources to equip the mentors,
- 3:24especially when we had peer mentors. We have
- 3:27some microlearning for them, and we have some
- 3:29modules online to train them in mentoring.
- 3:33The nurse residency program coordinator, which is Sarah,
- 3:36scheduled time and space for this program,
- 3:38and we held one hour group mentor sessions
- 3:41every other month throughout the twelve month program.
- 3:44And during months with no scheduled meetings, the
- 3:47mentors connect with their mentees via text messaging
- 3:50to maintain the continuity of the mentor and
- 3:52mentee relationship.
- 3:53That's also something that the mentees
- 3:55wanted to have. They wanted to have texting.
- 3:58We originally started with visiting the unit
- 4:01in between those meetings, and they want to
- 4:04be texted. The mentor memos are completed after
- 4:06each group session, so we get feedback.
- 4:09Evaluations of the program are conducted at midpoint
- 4:11and endpoints. And then we review the evaluations,
- 4:14and then we revise the program accordingly.
- 4:18Excellent.
- 4:19When we talked a few weeks ago, one
- 4:21of the things that impressed me most was
- 4:23you told me that since implementing
- 4:25this group mentoring,
- 4:26nurse retention has risen to ninety seven percent,
- 4:29which is just absolutely incredible.
- 4:32So what was group mentoring's part in that
- 4:34increase?
- 4:36So group mentoring is just one aspect of
- 4:38our transition to practice nurse residency program,
- 4:42that affects our retention.
- 4:44So along with the group mentoring, we also
- 4:46incorporate
- 4:47in person skills days, we do EVP projects
- 4:50with poster presentations,
- 4:52we do a lot with gamification,
- 4:54and we try to include as many other
- 4:56interactive activities as we can.
- 4:59However, studies have shown that mentoring has been
- 5:02linked to increased job satisfaction,
- 5:05reduced turnover, and encouragement of career planning,
- 5:08especially when we're working with new graduate nurses.
- 5:12The group dynamic in our group mentoring provides
- 5:15just collaborative learning environment,
- 5:17provides emotional support,
- 5:20knowledge sharing in the group, and anytime you
- 5:22provide support and knowledge sharing, it contributes to
- 5:25that retention.
- 5:27So mentoring is a key element of our
- 5:29culture,
- 5:30but not just the only aspect
- 5:33that helps our retention of new nurses.
- 5:37I also ask the new grads to complete
- 5:38a profile sheet on their first day of
- 5:41class as a new grad, that just helps
- 5:44assist their mentor in getting to know them.
- 5:47We also talk about habit forming goals, so
- 5:49those small short goals they can just do
- 5:51in a couple weeks,
- 5:53some reach goals that are maybe a month
- 5:55or two out and then also stretch goals.
- 5:57So looking at the long term of what
- 5:59they want to do as a nurse, and
- 6:01that also helps guide some conversations with their
- 6:04with the mentee and mentor.
- 6:07We also provide the mentors with icebreaker questions
- 6:10that allow them to get to know their
- 6:12mentees better and to to help establish that
- 6:16psychologically
- 6:17safe relationship between them.
- 6:19And lastly, one of the questions that we
- 6:22have our mentors ask the new grads is
- 6:25what are you doing for your well-being?
- 6:27The new graduate nurses appreciate the concern about
- 6:30their well-being and not just their practice. Supporting
- 6:33the health and well-being of nurses is one
- 6:34of the key recommendations in the future of
- 6:37nursing.
- 6:38Twenty twenty through 02/1930
- 6:40reports that we like to keep in the
- 6:42forefront of our program.
- 6:45Absolutely.
- 6:46I love that.
- 6:47How do you evaluate the effectiveness of group
- 6:50mentoring, and what are some of those outcomes?
- 6:54So one of the ways we evaluate the
- 6:56effectiveness of our group mentoring program, and Lillian
- 6:58had mentioned this at the beginning, was that
- 7:01we take the feedback from our midpoint and
- 7:03our end of the program evaluations.
- 7:07Just looking at our qualitative data from that,
- 7:10our evaluations show that the majority of our
- 7:12new grads
- 7:13agree that mentors are positive role models, and
- 7:16they also agree that group mentoring provides the
- 7:18positive impact, such as the support, the encouragement,
- 7:23the beneficial
- 7:24discussions, and contributes to their personal satisfaction as
- 7:27nurses.
- 7:29Hundred percent of our new grads in our
- 7:31evaluations say that they have engaged in sharing
- 7:34of nursing stories,
- 7:36during their mentor sessions.
- 7:38Nursing stories are an interactive learning method for
- 7:42sharing learnings and experiences,
- 7:44from experienced nurses
- 7:46to the novice nurses.
- 7:48One of the most striking responses, and I
- 7:50believe it was recently that we got in
- 7:52the feedback from a new graduate nurse,
- 7:54was that it was a super impactful experience.
- 7:58This program has become kind of near and
- 8:00dear to mine and Lillian's hearts, and so
- 8:02that was
- 8:03a pretty profound
- 8:05statement.
- 8:06We've also been asked to continue mentoring into
- 8:10year two of
- 8:12their nursing journey, which is evidence that they
- 8:15value the experience and they would like the,
- 8:19continuation of the support.
- 8:21Prior to 2022,
- 8:23our first year new grad retention rate was
- 8:27around
- 8:28eighty five percent.
- 8:30And just for comparison, the national average for
- 8:32first year retention
- 8:34of new graduate nurses is around seventy percent,
- 8:38with an estimated
- 8:39of thirty three percent of new grads leave
- 8:42within the first year of their nursing career.
- 8:46That's absolutely incredible.
- 8:48And, clearly, you guys are doing something right
- 8:50here because everybody is loving it. You're getting
- 8:53such great feedback. But I'm curious, what strategies
- 8:55are you implementing to sustain this program success
- 8:59as the nursing workforce continues to evolve?
- 9:02Well, we are soon going to send out
- 9:04the March 2024 end of program
- 9:07evaluation,
- 9:07and that's our survey
- 9:09that will look at our second year of
- 9:11the peer group mentoring.
- 9:13And as previously mentioned, we're considering incorporating second
- 9:16year mentoring into the program
- 9:18as requested by the new graduate nurses, but
- 9:20we really need to think about what that's
- 9:22going to look like and how it would
- 9:24benefit them because it would look a little
- 9:26different. We want to listen to their feedback,
- 9:28and we wanna give them the support that
- 9:30they need. We're also going to start assigning
- 9:32two mentors per group,
- 9:34to get some more interaction and more continuity.
- 9:37One of the comments that the nurse graduate
- 9:40nurses have provided
- 9:42is that they value having the same mentor
- 9:44for each session.
- 9:45In response to those comments, having two mentors
- 9:48assures us that if someone has to call
- 9:50out sick, we're still gonna have that continuity.
- 9:52There will always be a mentor that they
- 9:54know and and feel comfortable with. And two
- 9:56mentors will also help provide a more robust
- 9:59discussion
- 9:59and a better opportunity for relationships.
- 10:02We feel we have enough experienced nurses interested
- 10:05in group mentoring to fulfill these roles.
- 10:07Another strategy we will be implementing is to
- 10:10start surveying the new graduate nurses about the
- 10:12discussion questions that they'd like to use in
- 10:14the mentor sessions.
- 10:16We'll obtain that information through discussion with them
- 10:19and via the end of program evaluation.
- 10:22Currently, we ask about their well-being practices in
- 10:24each session, and we ask questions based on
- 10:26the stages of the transition shock model. But
- 10:29we wanna ensure that any of the questions
- 10:31that we're using, any of these guided questions
- 10:34are relevant to where they currently are in
- 10:36their practice,
- 10:37and that dementia discussions will continue to be
- 10:39beneficial.
- 10:41Sarah is always in touch with the new
- 10:43graduate nurses. She's always there. She follows them
- 10:45for a year. She hears their concern. She
- 10:47hears their cares and addresses them. I precept
- 10:50and mentor nursing students, and I work with
- 10:52nursing programs.
- 10:54And in that way, we continue to hear
- 10:56the heartbeat of their needs and the changes
- 10:58occurring in nursing training and in the nursing
- 11:00practice on the units.
- 11:02This, we realize, is a new generation of
- 11:04nurses, and we need to change our programs
- 11:06to accommodate their needs.
- 11:08To ensure the success of our group mentoring
- 11:10program, we also need to stay connected with
- 11:12our new nurses, not just in the first
- 11:14year, but also as they continue in their
- 11:16practice and their careers. So we're both involved
- 11:18in different councils, committees, and our nursing professional
- 11:21development program
- 11:23and rounding on the units, speaking to our
- 11:25nurses,
- 11:26and working with them so that we can
- 11:28keep up to date on changes in workforce
- 11:30and to assist them also in their career
- 11:32ladder as they become more experienced.
- 11:35Excellent. Well, this has been an amazing and
- 11:38informative discussion. Thank you both so much for
- 11:40joining me on the podcast today.