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Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
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United We Scan podcast. Welcome back, everybody.
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Episode 81. And this is kind of a National
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Convention call to action episode, if you will.
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So how I'm going to start this off?
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How was your week, James? Well, it was good.
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It was pretty uneventful overall other than, you know, the
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fireworks going off scaring the cats and dogs in the house like
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crazy. Love the fireworks though.
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Some great shows going on around us I could watch from my back
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porch and front deck. And then I had to work my
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Saturday because we had two Subs quit in my office.
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One left for a $30.00 an hour full time job and another one
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quit because she no longer wanted to work there with the
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harassment and is conflict avoidant.
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So unfortunately without somebody to be able to back her
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up and protect her from harassment over small things
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that affected her, it just got too much for her and so she
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decided to quit. So we down to Subs.
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So I had to work my Saturday, but now we're here.
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Sunday, of course, Wednesday, we recorded that very, very
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passionate episode. And I hope people take the time
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to listen to it several times just to get an idea of what's
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going on because that is what we're fighting about.
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That's what we're fighting for, is the people that are affected
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by this type of mentality. And we don't get very uppity
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often on here. But that deserved it.
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So it was unfortunately, the most egregious things I've ever
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heard. It's radiated through me through
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the entire week. It's still on my mind today.
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So it's not going away. This is one of those things that
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we need to step up and take care of now.
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So I'm going to get on a tangent here.
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So how was your week Toasty? Another hot week.
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Got some rain though last night and which was nice.
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It's going to help the grass a little bit from completely
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turning brown World quick. Other than that, heavy loads on
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Monday and of course the day after the holiday on the Friday.
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Other than that, the mail's been light again.
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Packages have been pretty steady holding at my usual average.
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My office is pretty chill right now.
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We're still waiting for two routes to go up, one from a
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carrier that's been out for more than two years on injury.
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Supposedly he's going to be getting an offer from another
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station to be a supervisor. So we're waiting on that.
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And then we had a one carrier resign.
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She had had a heart attack back in December during the Christmas
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overtime period and she knew she was going to be able to handle
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the heat and an LLV this summer. And she had to do what's best
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for her and unfortunately, she resigned.
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We all loved her, but at the same time, we're all still
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worried about her and especially after that heart attack, but
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wish her the best and wish her good health and longevity to see
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her grandbabies and great grandbabies.
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So other than that, we're just sitting around waiting.
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And Bill, how was your week? Oh, mine was marvelous.
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I, I enjoyed another week of recuperation and I really
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enjoyed Wednesday. I, I apologize for using some
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profanity, but I, I was so pissed off.
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I, I just, I really lost it. And, and thanks for your editing
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there, Kristen. And I want to address that
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because James brought up a couple things and I said, well,
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you know, yes, I can. I can sound like a violent
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person at times or right, you know, going around beating up
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people. First of all, ladies and
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gentlemen, I will beat up management and I will beat up
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the United States Postal Service and our own National Board
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through all the avenues that are available to us.
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You know, as far as grievances are concerned, failure to duly
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represent EEOS, National Labor Relations Board 1767, anything
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and anything, everything that we can possibly utilize to make
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management toe the line, to make the national board hear us and
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to back us the national steward system to enforce policies and
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contractual language. I will do all that net.
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And that's the the 1st way that you beat people up.
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One of the the most effective ways that I had in being a
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steward in my office was filing. And I mean, I filed everything
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and I filed so much that I buried this guy under paperwork
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to the point where you just got to say, give me the grievance,
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give me the settlement. I'll sign them both.
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We'll do a gas payment. And and that's how it worked for
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the last year of our relationship.
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Now, as far as physically beating them up, OK, you have
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people all young. It's the angry bill, that's the
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violent bill. Well, you know, that's the side
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of Bill that you don't want to see because that means I'm
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exhausted all, let's say, negotiating skills that we have.
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And to that point, if I'm in my office and somebody physically
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assaults another carrier, I'm one of the first people to step
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in because I, I don't, you know, condone the violence.
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But I also don't condone bullies beating up on smaller people.
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And I don't condone the fact that you have a 0 tolerance
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policy and it's not enforced. So I will step in and enter,
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intervene. It doesn't mean you have to
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fight, but I will get in there and stand up for the
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individuals. So when I say fight or beat
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somebody up, I'll go through the normal course of negotiations in
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regards to procedural avenues available to me.
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Then after that, sometimes you just got to punch a bully in the
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mouth. And this is what I'm calling
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for. We have to punch a bully, the
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United States Postal Service in the mouth, get their attention,
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make them stand up and realize we're not going to take this
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anymore. So if you misconstrued my
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passion and my anger about what we discussed on Wednesday night,
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if you're not angry about that Wednesday podcast, there's
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something wrong with you. Because this illustrates that
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for at least three years from Buffalo in 2021 until June of
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this year, management operates with impunity and total
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disregard on how to treat us with respect and dignity as
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human beings, as valued members of the postal team.
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And if you don't get that, and I don't know why you're listening
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to this podcast other than that you're on the national board and
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you want to use it against me. So, you know, if you you took it
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in the wrong manner, you know, I'm clarifying it for you now,
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like I did for the gentleman in Georgia last year.
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He's he got confused about my difference of the craft and the
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union. After I made made the
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explanation clear, he said, oh, I understand, have any
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questions? You come to me, don't sit there
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and make comments and, you know, start talking behind me with my
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back without first addressing it with me.
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I'll be honest with you. You be honest with me and we'll
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get along. It was your week there, James.
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We going there, Preston. Yeah, it's my turn.
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I'm sorry, Kristen. It's OK, it's all.
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Right, I'm I'm just so emotional from Wednesday and.
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I'm telling you, Wednesday has come.
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Wednesday has really hung heavy on me.
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I was really glad I had a four day weekend.
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We had Ruby's doctor's appointment Friday.
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Everything's looking good. Still measuring about 8 days
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behind so continuing the twice a week monitoring, but other than
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that little man looking pretty good so.
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But yeah, no, it's, you know, I know some things were said about
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me talking about what I'm going through personally in my office,
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but you know, I listen to what other people are going through
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in their office. And I just it for me to tell
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about what most recently been going through is a way for me to
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let you guys know that I understand.
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I, I, I'm experiencing what many people are experiencing across
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the country. So I know it's happening because
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I know it first hand and it, it's not fun.
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And that's why it needs to stop across the country, you know,
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taking my experiences in my office, but knowing that there
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are so many more people going through issues of similar nature
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or worse, and it needs to stop. And that's, you know, that's
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that's our end goal and wanting to get on to the national board
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is to help stop this across the country.
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You know, where we are right now, the most we can do is file
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a grievance in our own office. And we want to be able to help
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all of you out there that are going through these instances
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and situations that are not good at all and quite negative.
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You know, the reason why we're losing our our leave
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replacements and regulars. I mean, we've got regulars
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walking out the door because of the way everybody's being
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treated within the offices and it needs to stop across the
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board. So now other than that, the rest
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of my wake and I worked my Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and
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then enjoyed my family time. 4th of July was kind of interesting
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in my house, but just relaxed yesterday.
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I went and did some shopping with my daughter today because
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I'm heading out to Incarceration Concert Festival again this year
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in two weeks, so I will not be on on the 21st.
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I'm kind of afraid to leave the guys alone, but but you know,
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I'll, I'll, I'll not worry about them for one night.
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Take a chance, take a chance. But so yeah, now we just kind of
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been taking it easy this weekend and just chilling out and get to
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go back to work tomorrow. Yippee.
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Well. Kristen, with what you said, you
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actually being able to talk about the experiences you're
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having in your own area shows the people what other candidates
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can't do, and that is actually relate to the issues they're
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actually facing. We said that on Wednesday.
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You can't know what's going on if you haven't been down on the
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floor in 1520, thirty years. But if you have fresh experience
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and you can draw on that, people more relate to you because you
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know exactly what they're going through, or at least similarly
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to what they're going through. Yeah.
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You're used to that negative atmosphere in that office.
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In general, it's the. Confrontational attitude.
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Yeah, exactly you. Got a phone call on Friday from
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a young lady. Basically had had suffered
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through almost four years of harassment.
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Emotional, physical, you know, mental harassment from APM,
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filed multiple reports, charges EE OS and they finally, finally
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removed the gentleman from the office, put them in another
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office where it started all over again in the new office for this
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gentleman to the point where he was there for less than several
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months. They walked in and walked them
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out. But here, here's the problem
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with this. It took her years to get him out
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of her office. Multiple levels of postal
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inspectors, EE, OS, interviews, written statements, witnesses.
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This is not rocket science, folks.
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If you're being physically, emotionally, intellectually, you
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know, mentally harassed by somebody in management, it
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shouldn't take four years to present your case.
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And don't forget, the OIG works for the post office, not for us.
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Contrary to a popular belief, they're not an independent
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agency. They operate in the interests of
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the post office. And that, that's got to stop.
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There is no way anybody should be able to, to just hang on to a
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job for years and years after the first charges are are filed
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against them. And I my hat's off to her.
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Yeah. Because she persisted and
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persisted and it panned out. And what did the post office do?
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They just pawned them on to another office until it became
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apparent there that the same thing was happening and they
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finally went in and walked his ass out.
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That's what you have to do. And the same thing is this
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happens way too much. Yeah.
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Wait, you mean? You mean moving them to another
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office doesn't rehabilitate them?
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I think they've tried that before and failed.
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Sorry, somebody, somebody had actually said that to me at one
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point that, you know, moving them to another office usually
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solves the problem with the problem care the problem
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manager. Yes, you did state that, and
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again, it's proven to be invalid.
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You're just moving the problem. With that, somebody tell that to
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that other person who's probably listening to this podcast or has
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one of her lackeys listening to this podcast.
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So you also had another update for us, Bill, on our Wednesday
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episode, right? Why do you keep telling me about
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updates I don't remember? Something about TA1?
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The PA 100, that's not an update, that's just a follow up.
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Well, you can call that update. An update to our episode on
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Wednesday. Oh well you know, you can see
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you didn't give me a script. You just throwing these updates
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out. You want me to tell you, you
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know an update on my bladder control?
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Yes, the the gentleman that put out that notorious e-mail in
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regards to the dogs killing carriers or carriers being
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killed because they didn't wear their seatbelts, That is PA
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District 1 bitch. I don't know how, but somehow
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the Dr. from PA District 1 whose number happens to be on my phone
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found out about it. And let me tell you, you want to
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talk about lighting a fire under somebody after they got a copy
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of the e-mail, verify the date and the individual and everybody
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else on the e-mail, they went hog wild and they are asking for
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blood. They cannot believe that
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somebody would actually put this on an official postal e-mail to
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other management members. I'm talking about ADR that in
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the past had differences with, but we, we come to terms with
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each other and when stuff comes up, we talk to each other.
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And I let this individual know and they are taking a baseball
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bat to this case because this is beyond egregious and atrocious.
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This is one of the reasons why we need stronger leadership.
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And when I become president, I'm going to trust this Dr. to be
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able to, to step into the position of authority, handle
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situations like this, because this cannot be tolerated at any
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level to to the level of people dying.
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And then you sit there and blame the carriers for being stupid.
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Nobody is stupid enough to want to die on their route.
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Nobody wants to get mauled to death, get thrown out of their
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vehicle and killed. And the fact of the matter is
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that with the, the Rex program, oh, management's going to train
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us. Well, how are people who aren't
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trained going to train us yet? Yes, national, you know, our,
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our national board has put that in print that management was to
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train us. Same thing here.
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Don't put something on the scanner and say, Oh, well, they
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read it and accepted it and and say that's good enough.
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If you have a relationship on the floor with your carriers, be
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able to walk around to each one of them and reinforce this to
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let them know that they're appreciated.
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Let them know that they're a valuable commodity to the United
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States Postal Service. They're so busy doing reports.
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Be done at 10:00. This one's going to be done at
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10:30. We have the 11:00 telecom.
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We got to hell with that. Folks.
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Take care of the people, You take care of the people and the
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people take care of the job. If you empower the people,
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people will take care of the job.
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Like I've said, if every supervisor is out of the office,
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we'll still get the job done. If the carriers aren't there,
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nothing gets done. So who's more important to the
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operations of the United States Postal Service?
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This, this Dr. is going to go full tilt with this e-mail and
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the, the other one out of Buffalo NY's also being
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forwarded. Of course, I I've sent it off to
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my elected officials too as of Thursday morning.
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So thank you James for the actual print out of it and
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hopefully everybody else will follow up and scream to the high
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mountains that this has got to stop.
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Whether it be to your Dr. your national representatives on the
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National Rule Letter Carriers Association, and your elected
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official. This type of mentality cannot be
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be permitted to continue in the United States Postal Service.
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And. It's also been shared on
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ruralinfo.net. They actually put out an article
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on it as well with the images associated with it, so that is
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there too if you want to share that around as well for anybody
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out there. Very nicely written article
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there by Rural Info if you guys want to go take a look at that.
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By the way, we are not sponsored by them at all.
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Just putting it out there. It's another resource.
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It's another resource out there. But like, like we said, contact
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your congressmen and women and your, your representatives and
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your senators. You can contact the White House
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with it as well. Get it to the president.
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Send it to Dejoy too. There's emails out there.
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But anyway, so Speaking of changing the mentality of
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things, we're coming up on National Convention less than
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two months away, the last week of August from the 25th start.
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It's a lot of stuff starts Sunday evening, though you don't
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actually start actual details until Tuesday, but you can be
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there Sunday evening for devotions.
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They do do prayers and things like that on Sunday evening.
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But we're going to talk about National Convention, what's in
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it, what goes on, what is needed for candidates at National
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Convention and so on. Kristen, you want to start us
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off with that? With what part?
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Getting to National Convention beginning.
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Getting to national. The beginning, the beginning of
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National Convention, getting to there, starting it being
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involved, things like that. OK, got me all confused.
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So like when you first get there?
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OK, when you first arrive at National Convention, all right,
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All right. No matter how you get there,
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when you arrive at National Convention, me personally, I
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like to check in, get to my room, put my stuff away.
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And then I normally first thing I do is I'll head down and if
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it's still open, I register. Register, get your daddy bags,
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get your bags, all that good stuff.
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And then usually on Mondays, which is an unofficial day,
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there's seminars, there's a first timers orientation,
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there's the State of the Union address that the president does.
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And I don't have the schedule in front of me.
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So but anyways, Monday's basically seminars and non
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business stuff. Unofficially, it's just a day of
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anything you want to do. If you want to do it, you can.
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And then Tuesday starts the day of business.
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You got to make sure you're registered before you get in on
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the convention floor. You know, I always suggest to
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get down early. That way you can kind of get an
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idea where you're going to be sitting and then peruse around
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all the vendor tables. Candidates will have tables and,
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yeah, that fun stuff. And then when it's called to
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order and you go in, there's an awesome opening ceremony.
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There's a benediction. You got the parade of flags.
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Yeah. And then you have your guest
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speakers on Tuesday, James. Yep.
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And Tuesday, once everything's done on Tuesday, then in the
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evening they actually have seminars like your retirement
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seminar, insurance seminar. And those, those actually are at
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the same time. So you literally have to choose
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which one you want to go to, whether you want to attend the
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retirement or the insurance programs they used.
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They used to be OWCP and retirement at the same time, but
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apparently that's separate now. But there is a first timers
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orientation Monday afternoon. So those of you that are going
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for the first time would be able to understand the rules, how
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you're supposed to speak on the mics and stuff.
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Things you can interrupt with or things you can't interrupt with,
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things like that. You know the standard Robert's
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Rules of Order apply in these meetings, so they'll give you a
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Robert's Rules for Dummies on the 1st Timers orientation.
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So pay attention to that. Oh, the OWCP seminar is Monday
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evening at the same time as the Juniors Talent show, an
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auxiliary auction as well as the legal seminar.
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And yes, everybody registers when they get there, whether
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you're a regular delegate, alternate delegate and guest or
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non delegate. Same for auxiliary is a guest.
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So our juniors are guests at National Convention.
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They have, I believe they have their own setups.
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Yes they do. Yes.
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And if you are, if you were on the delegate ballot.
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But we're not listed as a delegate.
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You'll register first as an alternate delegate and then if
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you are moved up to a delegate, they will advise you of that,
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whether at registration or when you are on the caucus floor and
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they find out that not all their delegates are available.
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Convention floor. The convention floor, excuse me,
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caucus. Well, it is the caucus,
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technically, because it's the whole caucus of the group.
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But and then Wednesday usually starts all the actual big
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business of the convention, right Bill?
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Yes, Wednesday is when we get down to the nitty gritty and
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that is probably one of the most inane scheduling.
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Tuesday's the beginning of of the business on the floor and it
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consists of hours and hours of proverbial ass kissing
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introductions Hotel manager Dejoy, a local Puma district
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representative person from this group district.
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And it's like such a waste of time because of the fact that
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when we come to Friday where we're trying to close out
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business and we're going to 10:00 at night, how many hours
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could we have stolen from Tuesday to use to offset
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Friday's late days? It's pomp and circumstance.
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I can understand to a certain extent, but I do believe it's
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quite a bit overblown. I, I really do.
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And I don't know what the actual rules are in regards to all
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these guests, but they feel that, you know, they're required
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to give them their 5 minutes in the spotlight that ends up, you
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know, chewing up a whole day. Wednesday actually gets down to
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the actual business. I don't have my schedule either,
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but. That'll be the day of.
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Oh, that's. My nominations start.
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Is that the nominations will start.
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We'll go on till Thursday. And.
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Go until nominations go up, right up until the election.
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Actual elections, yes. But Thursday evening is when the
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caucus is. Yes, yes.
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Then Thursday, the caucus night, is the most important because
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that's when you get a little more one-on-one time with the
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actual candidates as we run around like the proverbial
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Roadrunner and try to hit all these different rooms across a
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convention floor and the hotel and answer everybody's
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questions. So this will be the first time
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in Reno, but I'm not familiar with that set up.
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But it can't be any worse than Grand Rapids.
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And you only, you only get 15 minutes with the candidate, then
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that includes their speech to the caucus and then if there's
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time available, answering questions from the audience.
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It depends on depends on how informative their speech is
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versus how uninformative and just history that they give.
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Toasty. Have you been to a National
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Convention? No, I have not.
25:44
OK. So you're the perfect person to
25:46
go. Do you have questions about
25:49
National Convention before we get into the call for action?
25:52
Not really. Just because I'm, you know,
25:54
going to state convention. It's a similar, similar setup,
25:58
similar set up, you know, with the, you know, first day being
26:02
the pomp and circumstance and the, you know, first timers, the
26:06
vendors talking everything like that.
26:09
The way y'all described it, you know, Tuesday is sort of the
26:12
nominations and a little bit more of the pomp and
26:15
circumstance, the guest speakers, Wednesday being the
26:17
nitty gritty. No, here we go the resolutions
26:19
here go the Constitution, the non binding and binding
26:23
resolutions. And then on Thursday is the
26:26
caucus, you know, where the candidates, you know, go to each
26:30
group talking to everyone trying to jump up those votes for vote
26:36
for later on. We're going to be White Thursday
26:38
or Friday night for for all the votes.
26:42
Voting is actually all day Friday.
26:44
OK. Yeah, that's how how it was for
26:46
the last day of convention in Texas and it took all day even
26:51
though we only we didn't have as many candidates as I think we're
26:55
gonna have at National Convention.
26:57
So we'll see how many rounds it goes at national.
27:00
We'll probably be out there till probably about midnight.
27:03
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.
27:05
I remember, was it Grand Rapids 2018?
27:08
It was like 10:00 when we got out of there.
27:11
Yep. Yeah, it's Wednesday, and then
27:14
Wednesday evening after business session is the banquet, and then
27:21
Thursday after session is caucus, and then Friday is
27:27
elections. Putting in resolutions?
27:29
Yep. Yep, finishing up resolutions,
27:31
appeals, the elections start in the morning and go all day long.
27:38
And yeah. And then once we're done Friday,
27:42
we're done, whatever time that may be.
27:46
And I have my yeah, that's. Chris.
27:49
Chris, you can't introduce a resolution at the convention
27:52
under new business. Yes you can.
27:54
And how many meals are you buying?
27:57
I know my state is providing one or any more provided.
28:03
Unless you purchase something like Ladies Carrier luncheon or
28:09
anything like that, now you're on your own.
28:11
Yeah, there is there at the banquet at the banquets there,
28:16
but during the lunch break and stuff, they'll actually last
28:20
year when we were at Grand Rapids, they actually had food
28:24
available for purchase in the concession hall where all the
28:28
tables were. Yeah, I remember in Grapevine
28:32
2019 they had a food truck outside of the Convention Center
28:37
as well, plus the restaurants in the resort and whatnot.
28:40
So you don't even have to eat there.
28:41
You can actually go outside there and find something to eat
28:44
off off the convention floor. And one thing that we didn't
28:50
touch on was Tuesday, they usually give you the packet of
28:54
resolutions that had been put forth by all the states that
28:57
have gone through the resolutions committee and the
29:00
constitution committees and the finance committees for some of
29:03
them that actually affect the dues of the of the association.
29:08
So like my resolution cutting PTF dues into halfway between
29:14
Rcas and regular carriers instead of them being at regular
29:19
carrier rates will be put between the Constitution
29:21
committee and then the Finance Committee Because they want to
29:25
put a dollar amount on how much it's going to cost the union in
29:30
the loss of the dues of the current PTFS in the system.
29:34
Even though it's helping the PTFS, it's going to be a cost to
29:38
the union. So that's one of the things, and
29:41
you're going to want to, if you want to actually speak on any of
29:44
the resolutions or anything like that, you're going to want to go
29:47
through those Tuesday night because they're going to go
29:49
through them at the sound of the gavel, at the sound of the
29:52
gavel. If you don't object and they hit
29:56
that gavel, that resolution has passed.
29:58
So you're going to want to read through every resolution and
30:00
they only give you the be it resolved or language.
30:06
They don't give you the intent, they don't give you the, whereas
30:10
they just give you the be it resolved part because there are
30:13
usually a lot of them. You've got 50 states going into
30:16
one convention with resolution. Michigan's bringing up I think
30:20
what 45 total. I didn't get a full count on on
30:24
our past one, but you've got to think that anywhere between 20
30:28
and and 50 a state of resolutions depending on how
30:33
energetic they were on resolutions.
30:35
So you're looking at 100 and 5200 resolutions easily.
30:38
Or more. Or more Texas.
30:40
Texas had 38. A few of them got voted down,
30:43
but for the most part most of them went through.
30:46
Yeah. And you got to take out the ones
30:48
that were for your state only and then that's just national
30:50
alone. But a lot of them come up, some
30:53
of them will be duplicates. So the resolution committee will
30:56
combine the ones that are nearly completely identical.
30:59
So you only get one resolution out of the two, but they'll put
31:02
the states that brought it up underneath as who brought it up
31:06
but. Yeah, that's definitely, I'd
31:08
say, you know, Tuesday night is definitely homework when it
31:11
comes to resolutions. That's where I remember James
31:15
and Bill and I sitting around the table last year going going
31:18
through them. Yeah.
31:21
We only got through half of them and it was like, what, 1:30 in
31:24
the morning at that point? Yeah.
31:27
Yeah, it's crazy late. We need to go to bed.
31:30
It was getting too late. There.
31:31
There are, there's a wild, what is it, Wild Bill that actually
31:35
brings a easel, I mean, everything into his room, sets
31:39
it up so he can go through all the resolutions in his room with
31:42
whoever wants to attend and they get through them all.
31:45
Yeah. No, it's, you know, definitely
31:47
when you get those resolutions on that first day, you
31:50
definitely want to take the time outside of the convention to go
31:54
over them. That really does make a
31:56
difference going into it, being aware of what's what's going up
31:59
and if it's something you want to object to and argue about it.
32:03
Kind of puts the damper on the period that we go to these
32:06
conventions and it's a big party.
32:09
Oh hell no. It's a lot of work, a lot of
32:13
work it. It really.
32:15
Is, well, you're sitting there going through resolutions and
32:19
you look up and it's 1:30. It's like, Oh my God.
32:21
Yeah, we've, we've got to go get some sleep.
32:23
Yeah, And you could think it's a big party and all that, but
32:27
that's a lot of that's just us burning off the energy of
32:30
sitting in that room for so long, going through all of this
32:33
stuff. You know, when you're sedentary
32:35
for so long, when you're used to jumping out of the mail truck
32:37
every three or four houses for packages, you know, you got to
32:41
get the blood flowing a little bit somehow.
32:43
But for the people that are actually there to make a
32:48
difference for this craft, we don't stop working unless we're
32:51
exhausted and we have no more energy left to give.
32:55
When you're fighting for the craft, you give it your all.
32:58
It's funny because you get used to your your own bed, your
33:03
mattress, your pillows, you know, and you've got them all
33:06
broken into a certain point where it's comfortable for you.
33:09
You go to these hotels and everything's extra firm.
33:12
They have to last for the skinny people and the fat people and
33:16
you, you get done at night, you're done.
33:20
I mean, you go to sleep in minutes because it's just
33:24
physically draining. It really is.
33:26
Mentally, it's a big mental brain fry the entire week can be
33:32
it just, I mean, I know even trying to go back to work the
33:37
next day and you're just you're dragging for the next few days
33:40
because you're just having to totally recharge your batteries
33:45
on all levels, both physically and mentally.
33:48
Yeah, you're so tired you barely even notice your roommates
33:50
doors. I didn't have that problem.
33:57
But no, it is it can be fun in a lot of ways.
34:02
I mean you are hanging out with a bunch of like minded
34:06
individuals in a way because they all want to do the same
34:10
thing which is make a difference for this craft.
34:13
Granted, there may be some people I have heard of and maybe
34:17
heard them speaking about it that are going there just to
34:21
hang out with their friends, that they don't care what's
34:23
going on on the floor. They're just there to hang out
34:25
with their friends because they're paid to do it.
34:27
But most of the people on that floor want to make a difference
34:31
for this craft. Whether it's they know how to
34:35
make that difference or whether they're in tune with how to make
34:38
that difference, That is their own personal opinion.
34:42
You know, but the, the, the nice thing about it is though, I
34:45
mean, it is a lot of work. It is a mental fry, but you do
34:50
get to meet up with the other carriers from across the
34:53
country, some that you've made friendships with from past
34:57
conferences and conventions and keep in touch, some that you've
35:01
only talked to on Facebook and you finally get to meet face to
35:04
face. You know, there there is that
35:08
social aspect of it too, which does make it nice and it gives
35:12
you a little bit of a mental break when you get to hang out
35:15
with carriers from all over that you don't get to see.
35:19
But when it comes down to it, the majority of us are there for
35:23
that nitty gritty and the hanging out afterwards is just a
35:27
way to decompress for the from the day.
35:30
So we are asking for anybody that is going to National
35:35
Convention and wants to help make a difference and wants to
35:39
support a candidate for office. We're looking for those helpers.
35:44
Candidates need a person to nominate them.
35:48
Some people have found people to nominate them already, others
35:51
haven't. It's a lot more difficult to
35:54
step up onto that stage and nominate yourself.
35:57
I know from experience, but if somebody else were to step up
36:00
and nominate you, it makes the job a little bit easier going up
36:05
there and doing your speech about how you want to make a
36:07
difference for this craft. This goes for all candidates,
36:10
whether they are up and coming candidates, new candidates or
36:14
incumbents. And it's the same for the caucus
36:17
walk. They need people to walk with
36:19
them. Talk about your experience
36:21
walking caucus with Bill Kristen.
36:23
Well, I, I've been on both sides of caucus, both, you know, as a
36:28
candidate and walking with Bill last year.
36:31
And it's, that's a physical thing.
36:35
You know, I, I've done it on the mental where you better make
36:39
sure you have a bottle or two of water with you when you're a
36:41
candidate because you're going to need it because you're
36:43
talking a lot. But when you're walking it, it
36:46
takes a lot of self-discipline. You know, you, we had several of
36:51
us with Bill last year and I was pretty much just behind Bill to
36:56
stare him into the back of the shoulders.
36:58
But and we had others, you know, that were handing out passing
37:02
out treats and whatnot. So, you know, if you can get a
37:06
couple people at least I had one person the first year that 2022
37:10
when I ran, I had one person from my state who who walked
37:14
with me. So I wasn't alone.
37:15
And you know, they were just given.
37:17
And another thing is, is when you walk with someone, you're,
37:20
you're not talking. So you get a, you can get a real
37:23
good read on the room and how they're accepting of the speech
37:28
and reactions. And you know, you can read a
37:31
room from that aspect. I noticed especially, you know,
37:34
with Bill last year, being able to just kind of look around and,
37:38
and, and see the expressions on people's faces and just kind of
37:44
getting a feel for stuff. And that way when you're done
37:46
with that room and you go out, you can always give that
37:48
feedback to the candidate because you don't always as a
37:51
candidate, you don't always get to read the room as in depth as
37:55
someone who's not talking. So I, I did notice that.
38:00
But yeah, no, it's, it's basically your support person.
38:03
I, you know, if anybody is interested that is going, if you
38:07
are a delegate, please get permission from your delegate at
38:11
large or whoever's in charge of keeping track of you being there
38:15
as a delegate. That just because of the way the
38:18
compensation is done. I don't know, However, all the
38:21
states do it, but I know you're supposed to be present for
38:24
everything, including caucus. So I just highly suggest that
38:29
you get permission ahead of time.
38:31
That way you are officially excused from being in your
38:35
caucus room to walk the caucus with a candidate.
38:39
And that also let's them know you're still actually
38:42
participating in the caucus. You're just going from caucus
38:45
room to caucus room instead of sitting there listening to all
38:47
the candidates. You can't say, oh, I'm going to,
38:50
you can't say I'm going out to walk through the caucus with
38:52
somebody and then go back to your room and and eat snacks.
38:56
Yeah, they, they, they have to be able to account for you, yes,
39:00
and that. Kristen was my handler last
39:02
year, making sure that I didn't stray off the path.
39:09
I, I can make, I can say 1 syllable and all of a sudden I'd
39:12
had lasers burning in my back. It's like OK.
39:18
It's because I got to know Bill well enough to read his body
39:21
language. He's even from behind to know
39:24
you're going to say he's the wrong thing if I don't give you
39:27
to the death glare. Oh God.
39:33
What's the dress code? Is the question in the chat.
39:36
We'll talk about that on here right now.
39:38
I I want to say business casual. I wouldn't say route attire.
39:44
I have seen delegates in pajama pants at the microphone and I
39:49
really it didn't sit well with me.
39:52
But I'm not picking out their wardrobe.
39:55
So, but convention in general, I would say business casual,
40:01
business comfort. Yeah, business comfort sounds
40:05
like a good one for me, too. Business comfort.
40:07
But I know people show up in T-shirts and shorts and flip
40:11
flops. Tank tops and shorts and flip
40:14
flops. Yes, you know, it's.
40:16
Flip flops. Flip flops and thongs.
40:20
Please don't. Please don't and.
40:24
And, and I will say that I walked caucus in 2022 with flip
40:27
flops on only because I had brought the wrong pairs or the
40:32
wrong couple pairs of shoes all week and my feet were sore and
40:36
blistered and that was the only pair of shoes that I had for
40:40
comfortable for walking. I will not be wearing flip flops
40:43
this year at caucus. I can tell that but.
40:46
And for caucus walks, I would say more business, not casual,
40:53
just above business casual would be best for the candidates.
40:56
But talk with your candidate, ask them what they would prefer.
41:00
Maybe they want you to wear their campaign T-shirt or they
41:04
want you to wear their campaign button, something like that.
41:07
You know, I know that for last year, I know that a lot of the
41:12
people were wearing T-shirts for Bridget Boziak from my state
41:17
board and they walk caucus wearing her T-shirt.
41:20
So unless I was getting I think it was red last year.
41:28
Yeah, and the year before, yeah, but yeah.
41:31
But yeah, you'll see. For walkers though, you know
41:34
very much what they wore on the convention floor if they don't
41:37
have the candidate T-shirts on or something of that nature.
41:42
And I highly suggest a comfortable walking shoes.
41:46
Very comfortable walking shoes. Because you will be standing and
41:49
walking all night long. But it's if you're a candidate
41:55
for a national board position, you should be dressed to the
41:58
nines professional because you are going up there to represent
42:04
the entire organization and the craft.
42:06
And you need to be professional because you're going into a
42:09
professional position with the national board.
42:12
And while we all wear what we are comfortable with and can get
42:17
dirty in the postal vehicles, that is not what our national
42:20
board has to wear because they're dealing with business
42:24
professionals who think that the Postal Service is a business,
42:28
not a service. So they have to deal with that
42:30
as well. So, but that's still those
42:33
candidates out there that are nominating themselves over the
42:35
past couple of months on top of the people that have already
42:38
nominated. And you got to remember, with
42:40
all these people jumping in for the executive committee
42:43
position, caucus nights going to be a long night.
42:47
Because. You're going to have to spread
42:48
them among all the rooms there. Team minutes for everybody,
42:52
folks. We better get started early
42:54
because otherwise we'll be getting done at midnight.
42:56
Yeah. Yeah, Caucus, this is supposed
42:59
to start at 6:00 PM And last year we had two candidates for
43:03
president, candidate for vice president, 2 candidates for vice
43:07
president or no, we had one candidate for vice.
43:09
President, right. Two.
43:10
We had two. We had two and then we had one
43:13
for director of Labor relations. We had two for director of
43:18
Stewart Operations, we had one for secretary, treasurer and we
43:22
had four of them for executive committeemen, four or five last
43:27
year, I can't remember. And I know there's and I'm
43:30
pretty sure there's way more than that now.
43:32
I believe we're up to 15 executive committeemen.
43:36
Oh. Lord, I am serious.
43:39
There is that, I believe at least 15 candidates for that.
43:42
There's 323 to four candidates for president that we've rumored
43:47
heard. There's two candidates for vice
43:50
president. There's two to three candidates
43:53
we've heard for director of Labor relations.
43:56
I've heard there's two candidates for the secretary
43:58
treasurer. There's three to three to four
44:01
candidates for the Director of Stewart Operations and 15
44:05
candidates for the four year executive committee term.
44:08
Friday is going to be a long day.
44:11
Caucus, Caucus at 15 minutes a person, you're talking there's
44:17
2020 people minimum for this. So you're, you're 25 to 30
44:22
people, 15 minutes apiece. Yeah, you're looking at. 4 1/2
44:27
hours minimum. Six hours, you got to have
44:30
break. You got to have times where the
44:32
candidates are still walking to the next room that they have to
44:34
go to, like at Grand Rapids, where he had to go from the
44:37
hotel to the Conference Center, back to the hotel across across
44:41
the entire hotel to one room, then back across the hotel to
44:44
another one. And up and down a flight of
44:46
stairs or two. Oh yeah.
44:49
Turn half a flight and a half a flight here and a half a flight
44:52
there. Yeah, that one, that one, I'd
44:54
like that, that I'd like. We went down four steps, turn
44:57
left, went up 6 steps, turn right, went up four more steps.
45:00
I'm like, are we still in Grand Rapids?
45:08
Somebody said hope. Hopefully they dropped that to
45:10
10 minutes. Unfortunately, 15 minutes is in
45:13
the Constitution for caucus. For how many minutes that the
45:16
candidates get to speak to each room?
45:19
We we, we walked so much at Grand Rapids.
45:21
I had some guy asked me for my passport at the border.
45:27
I know I did. I know I did 15,000 steps
45:30
according to my watch at a caucus last year.
45:33
Yeah, so the caucus is a late night.
45:36
It really is. And.
45:38
We get and just remember each candidate that adds adds
45:42
themselves to the list through the nominations, starting on
45:46
business, starting when they open nominations, that adds
45:49
another 15 minutes into your caucus minimum.
45:52
Yeah. So I mean, we don't know exactly
45:55
how many we're going to have running until nominations start,
45:58
so. And, and yes, it can be changed
46:01
to have a motion to suspend the rules to make it 10 minutes
46:04
instead of 15. But then people would be upset
46:07
because then they wouldn't get their time to ask their poignant
46:10
questions to candidates. But I'm sure the rest of this
46:13
panel here will agree with me. We're going to be there all
46:16
week. I'm sure the rest of the
46:18
candidates will be there all week too.
46:20
If you have a question for them, you should approach them and ask
46:22
them that question. Don't just wait for caucus
46:24
night. You're going to there's going to
46:26
be more opportunities to actually ask them outside of the
46:29
floor and outside a caucus than during caucus.
46:33
Yeah, I mean, don't be afraid to approach us at lunch break or,
46:37
you know, 15 minute smoke break or whatever while we're out
46:41
there. You know, don't be afraid to
46:42
come up and ask us a question. Be happy to for.
46:44
Sunday or Monday? Yeah.
46:46
Sunday. Monday.
46:47
We'll be there, yeah. Yeah.
46:49
Don't forget, don't forget our meet and greet.
46:51
Yeah, I am still working on that for Monday evening.
46:54
I will do. I'll post an event on the
46:57
Facebook page once I figure out the rest of the logistics, so
47:02
that way we'll kind of have a somewhat of a little bit of a
47:05
head count. You know, they could also, there
47:07
could also be somebody who makes a motion to end business for the
47:11
day on Thursday early to move to caucus early.
47:16
So that way we could get through it earlier.
47:19
That's another thing that candidates, the carriers could
47:21
do on the floor. But you know, like you.
47:24
Know after elections are all done and all the rest of the
47:27
business is taken care of, and then they'll do the swearing in
47:31
of the new board and then we'll they'll make a motion to end and
47:35
we'll be, we'll run out the door.
47:39
And if if anybody on the national board is voted out and
47:43
they're going to retire, they'll have a retirement walk for that
47:46
candidate. Is celebratory bonfire Outback?
47:49
I don't know if we'll have any bonfires, but there will
47:53
definitely be a celebratory. Like.
47:58
Celebration of one sorts or another.
48:03
So if you guys have any questions regarding convention,
48:08
caucus or any of that stuff, definitely reach out to us.
48:11
Reach out to us on our page, reach out to us on our Facebook
48:14
profiles. You know, most of us are in most
48:16
of the groups out there except Bill.
48:18
Don't reach out to him on Messenger.
48:20
You call him I. I still remember Bill.
48:25
We call you, not message you. Bill, Bill, are you there paging
48:31
Bill? I'm here.
48:33
I'm here. We were calling you Bill instead
48:37
of texting you, and you didn't respond.
48:40
Well, I, I, I, I did. I didn't know whether you were
48:43
done with your pause or not. So I, I just let it hang there.
48:46
But yes, if you want my attention, call me.
48:49
Yeah. All the other stuff is
48:51
secondary. Ringing phone gets my attention.
48:54
Call you what? Says somebody in the chat.
48:56
The big A. Call him anything but late for
48:59
dinner. You can call me late for dinner
49:01
if something important's there, you know, you know I'll, I'll
49:05
put off dinner for a good conversation.
49:07
So we're all gearing up for Reno, every single one of us.
49:11
A lot of our listeners are gearing up for Reno.
49:14
If you want to help out with any of us, whether it be caucus
49:18
walks, nomination speeches, working our table during the
49:22
breaks, reach out to the candidates.
49:24
Most of the candidates have tables, so reach out to them and
49:27
see if they want they need help with that.
49:29
If you, if you feel like just being able to sit down and talk
49:33
about that candidate to other people or just hand out the
49:36
goodies that they put at their table, things like that.
49:39
But reach out and even if not, just reach out and say, hey,
49:43
I'll be at National Convention. Is there anything I can do to
49:45
help? Maybe they can help you with
49:48
anything that you think you can be able to handle.
49:50
If you can't handle those things, maybe just ask, hey, can
49:53
I just wear a button for you? Can I just wear a sticker for
49:56
you? Can I carry a pin of yours?
49:59
Anything like that? You guys have anything else?
50:02
I'm going to bring, you know, what do you call it?
50:04
Complimentary cans of head wax. Bill May head wax.
50:12
Now, now, if they give you $10, if they give you $10, can they
50:15
shine your head for you? Hell yeah, yeah.
50:19
And, and, and then we can turn around and said I gave Bill for
50:24
$10. I don't think we want to do
50:31
that, I signed. I signed Bill May for $10.
50:35
Oh well, yeah, that's what meant.
50:37
Uh huh. Yeah, I don't think it's better
50:41
than the thong, but you know, that's in the eyes of the
50:45
beholder. Hopefully my eyes are not
50:48
beholding it. Oh, or I can, I can sell space
50:54
in my head, you know, autograph here, you know.
50:57
Oh, put your campaign slogan here.
50:59
Yeah, Yeah, we go. No, it's all good.
51:02
My wife's, my, my wife still won't let me get the big red egg
51:05
tattoo on my head. Yeah, I'm just a little upset
51:09
about that. All right, Toasty, your final
51:12
thoughts? Stay hydrated out there.
51:15
It's still pretty hot. Even though we've got a
51:17
hurricane headed our way. We're not going to get a lot of
51:21
it. In my area, it's I'm more inland
51:23
than than the coast. For those that are on the coast
51:27
here in Texas or even in the Gulf Coast area, you know, pay
51:29
attention to the weather emergencies.
51:31
Turn around, don't drown, don't go down the flooded streets.
51:34
Stay safe, stay hydrated when we get to Reno.
51:38
For those of us that are going, you know, let's, let's have some
51:41
fun, let's learn, let's be cordial and let's get this vote
51:45
going. Let's go ahead and change what
51:47
we needed to change. Let's go ahead and be a voice
51:50
for the voiceless carriers. Let's stand up for everyone and
51:53
represent everyone like we should.
51:55
Well said, James. You know, National Convention is
52:00
the biggest change for the craft that we can do as members in
52:06
good standing. Now I know it's been hard for a
52:08
lot of new carriers and newly involved carriers to get elected
52:14
as delegates, and there is a possibility that candidates that
52:19
were not made delegates but were on the ballot as alternates
52:23
could become delegates at Reno. It's more likely for states that
52:28
are further away than ones that are close by, but it also
52:31
happens even in the states that are close by.
52:34
We had several people that moved from alternate to delegate from
52:38
Michigan last year here in Grand Rapids, MI.
52:41
So it is possible to happen. Don't give up.
52:44
Even an alternate can help out in many ways at at conventions
52:49
like we talked about helping the candidates, you can also be
52:52
involved with counting the ballots or watching them count
52:55
the ballots for the candidates to make sure everything is on
52:58
the up and up. Not saying that it isn't the
53:01
tellers committee does a good job.
53:03
In fact, every observer that has been in the room has said that
53:07
they've done exactly what they were supposed to do.
53:10
So, but that is a nation that people have.
53:13
Even delegates can go and sit and watch the counting of the
53:17
ballots and they don't lose their delegate spot on the
53:19
floor. They just won't be voting on any
53:21
resolutions that are occurring during the time that they're
53:23
counting the ballots because they still go through the
53:25
resolutions while they're counting ballots.
53:27
But you can still participate as an alternate delegate.
53:31
You can still participate as a non delegate if you weren't
53:34
elected or on the ballot. You can still come as a non
53:38
delegate and participate. You can't speak on the floor
53:42
unless somebody suspends the rules, but you can still
53:45
participate as a non delegate. We're ready to fight for you at
53:49
National Convention. We're ready to fight for you
53:52
after National Convention. It's time for everybody to step
53:56
up, show up, be involved, and show our national board and our
54:03
elected delegates that in this craft, no matter what, we're all
54:08
in this together. Bill.
54:10
Well, you've hit almost every point that you know we need to
54:14
address. And I'll reiterate that we do
54:18
need your help, whether it's at our tables, whether it's during
54:22
caucus night, whatever you know that the candidates may ask for
54:27
of you to do. The thing of it is that if
54:31
you're a delegate, you have the most important and powerful tool
54:35
available to you. Change this crafts the the union
54:39
leadership and have to exercise it and I can't make this any
54:45
more poignant than than this. We have approximately 1200
54:49
people presenting over 120,000 carriers.
54:53
So those 1200 people are going to dictate the future of this
54:57
craft. We want to continue down the
55:00
path we've been on the last 1520 years.
55:03
We want to continue on with the toxic work environment that's
55:07
not being addressed and prosecuted, that our national
55:11
Stewart system should be, you know, nailing these people's
55:13
hides to the wall. If you're a delegate, this is
55:18
the most important function that you have at the National
55:22
Convention. Vote for the people that you
55:24
think will do the best job representing the craft, not
55:27
themselves, not padding their retirement, not staying off
55:31
their route, working for the craft.
55:34
They have a responsibility and an accountability to the craft
55:39
members. And they they're, they've been
55:42
blinded to that for years. It's not about us, it's about
55:45
them. So this year, let's take the
55:47
opportunity and change that perspective.
55:50
Let's get people on the national board.
55:52
We're going to represent membership.
55:55
The only way you can do that is that's a delegate through your
55:58
vote. And we're going to have hot
55:59
weather, you know, throughout the country.
56:01
You've got some storms coming up there in the coast for toasty in
56:05
this neighborhood everywhere. Everybody be safe.
56:09
Watch out for flash floods because of the ground is so hard
56:12
packed and everything. You can't see the road.
56:15
You don't drive through it. OK, Turn around, save your life
56:18
for another day. And remember, you are the most
56:22
important delivery of the day, regardless of what we've seen
56:25
and heard this past week from management, regardless of what
56:28
happens in your office, don't settle for the toxic environment
56:32
and the harassment about how to do your job because you're the
56:36
most qualified person to do your job.
56:38
Not the two O 4B. Not the supervisor, not the
56:42
postmaster. You are.
56:43
So use your discretion. Carry discretion.
56:46
Your job professionally, efficiently, safely.
56:49
And for God's sakes, everybody, start hydrating now for tomorrow
56:53
and the rest of the week, sure that you make that delivery, the
56:56
most important delivery, and that is you to your loved ones
56:59
at the end of the day. Thank you guys.
57:03
It's been a week. I just want to kind of, you
57:06
know, put that out there too, that those that volunteer to
57:10
help the candidates, whether it's at their booth or walking
57:14
with caucus or nominating them, that is just showing to the rest
57:19
of the delegation that yes, I believe this person would be
57:24
great at leading the craft. And it's showing that those
57:28
candidates have support of the craft members or, you know, some
57:32
craft members, I should say. But yeah, that's definitely part
57:35
of the, you know, helping out is, is showing your support.
57:38
So like I said, if anybody's interested, you know, just give
57:42
us a holler and we'll put you in touch with whoever needs to be
57:46
if it's a general message or what not.
57:48
So, but on that note, guys, Please remember to stay safe,
57:53
stay hydrated. And it's going to be, it's July,
57:58
it's summer time. So yeah, stay safe, stay
58:01
hydrated, get home to your loved ones, and we'll be back next
58:05
week. Just put the GIF in the chat.
58:20
GIF. You mean GIF?
58:21
Yeah. GIF looks like a peanut butter.
58:23
GIF. It's a graphics interface.