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Serial Killer Documentary - Killer in the Woods · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:42
  Speaker 1: This is the story of one man's obsessive desire to
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: control and even kill women. Throughout his life, John Taylor
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: found himself repeatedly drawn to woods, where he would watch
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: and wait for his next victim.
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  Speaker 2: He had a chance to do it to me.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: He didn't had to do it to the Lass.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: He had to do it to Lene.
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  Speaker 1: But John Taylor's crimes went undetected for more than a
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: decade until he kidnapped and killed sixteen year old Leanne Tiennan.
• 1:18
  Speaker 4: Where the family are to stir over this f of
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  Speaker 4: brown hair, bring us battle upness.
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  Speaker 1: It was only when he was convicted of murdering Leanne
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  Speaker 1: that Taylor's secret life came to light.
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  Speaker 5: I believe that John Taylor is an extremely dangerous man.
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  Speaker 5: No stone will be left unturned as far as John
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  Speaker 5: Taylor's concerned.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: On a Sunday afternoon in November two thousand, teenagers Leanne
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: Tianan and her friend Sarah Whitehouse went on a Christmas
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  Speaker 1: shopping trip to Leeds City Center.
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  Speaker 6: We've been shopping and we were having a laugh about boyfriends,
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  Speaker 6: the usual stuff. Leanne and she were very generous. She
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  Speaker 6: spent the last money on me. She borrowed the money
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  Speaker 6: so she could get my Christmas presents. We're there to
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  Speaker 6: remember because at least we want sad, but well, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: we're happy there. We had to be by about five
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  Speaker 6: o'clock because Lianne's Momda tea waiting for her and we've
• 2:32
  Speaker 6: made plants of that opening.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, the girls boarded the bus for the three mile
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: journey home. What they didn't know was that just around
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: the corner from Leanne's house a man was setting out
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  Speaker 1: on a more sinister journey. The girls got off the
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  Speaker 1: bus and said goodbye. Instead of walking home along the
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  Speaker 1: main road, Leanne took a shortcut through a wooded valley
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  Speaker 1: called hufughlely Gill. She was just a few minutes from home.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty past five.
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  Speaker 7: So I answered it, thinking it possibly Leanne, saying that
• 3:28
  Speaker 7: she might be a bit late, and it was actually Sarah.
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  Speaker 7: I wanted to speak to Leanne, so she's not back yet,
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  Speaker 7: So I found a mob by and then it rang
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  Speaker 7: on about twenty times and had just cut off, so
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  Speaker 7: I thought, little trail up. She's ignoring me for some reason,
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  Speaker 7: so I tried it again.
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  Speaker 8: I's Leanna, can't get to the phone right now.
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  Speaker 5: Call that lad bye.
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  Speaker 3: HM.
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  Speaker 7: That's when it really She then sly get a policeman
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  Speaker 7: in the house, and you're acting having to say that
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  Speaker 7: he dares was missing, and you don't know where or
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  Speaker 7: where she is.
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  Speaker 1: The search started immediately. Leanne was a popular girl, and
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  Speaker 1: as words spread around the neighborhood that she was missing,
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  Speaker 1: her friends all joined in the hunt.
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  Speaker 3: She was the nuttiest person you could have met.
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  Speaker 9: Just before Leanne went missing, we went to Turkey in
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  Speaker 9: the summer, so like the biggest last memory that I
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  Speaker 9: had of her was too wake abroad having.
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  Speaker 2: A good old time.
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  Speaker 1: She was my best friend in my ant. She had
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  Speaker 1: like a gift, like a big sun a big sunshine.
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  Speaker 8: HEO, welcome to my tax show.
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  Speaker 1: The police are used to dealing with missing girls, but
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  Speaker 1: this was different. Although Leanne's parents were divorced, her home
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: life was happy, and there was nothing in her background
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  Speaker 1: to convince the police that she'd run away.
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  Speaker 7: We also sort of caught ourselves the Tree Musketeers because
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  Speaker 7: they were just the three of us.
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  Speaker 2: We used to have the music on and dance and
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  Speaker 2: just be silly.
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  Speaker 7: My last memory of Lee I might have is when
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  Speaker 7: she was setting off to those shopping and as she
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  Speaker 7: kissed me on the cheek and she laughed because she
• 5:30
  Speaker 7: got lipstick on me again, and she was always doing that,
• 5:33
  Speaker 7: and I start waked off and rubbed it off. As
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  Speaker 7: she walked out the back door, she just said bye,
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  Speaker 7: and I said bye back. I said, don't be let
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  Speaker 7: for a dinner as.
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  Speaker 2: She was gone.
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  Speaker 5: Girls disappear regularly, and thankfully safely, I am. And we
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  Speaker 5: realized from past experience with cases that you can't afford delay.
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  Speaker 5: If you are hoping that there's going to be a
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  Speaker 5: successful outcome, you've got to act quickly.
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  Speaker 1: The first priority for the police was to isolate and
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  Speaker 1: search every inch of Leanne's intended journey home.
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  Speaker 5: Leon was last seen in huffle Ler, near to wither
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  Speaker 5: Park Road. She lived some three quarters of a mile
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  Speaker 5: away at Landstere Mount. Now we had to calculate what
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  Speaker 5: we would have expected the route to be that she walked,
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  Speaker 5: and we call that the red route. The houses along
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  Speaker 5: that red route were searched, some twelve hundred houses. It
• 6:33
  Speaker 5: was a logistical problem to make sure that all these
• 6:36
  Speaker 5: areas were searched thoroughly because we didn't know at which
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  Speaker 5: point along this route she'd actually been abducted.
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  Speaker 1: Detective Superintendent Greg called in experts in criminal behavior from
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  Speaker 1: the National Crime Faculty. The investigation was soon centered on
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  Speaker 1: the shortcut through Hufughley Gill.
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  Speaker 10: When I first visited Huffley Guil, it just strikes you
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  Speaker 10: as an awful place to be. It's shrouded by bushes
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  Speaker 10: and overgrown on both sides, and it's one of those
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  Speaker 10: places that I suppose most people would try and avoid
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  Speaker 10: unless they had reason to go there.
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  Speaker 1: The gill may have been deserted, but it was a
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  Speaker 1: daring choice of location for a kidnap.
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  Speaker 10: Hufughly Gill. It south, you're surrounded by housing. Regardless of
• 7:19
  Speaker 10: which direction you move away from Hughley Gill, you're straight
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  Speaker 10: into residential area. It's a very high risk location for
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  Speaker 10: an abduction.
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  Speaker 1: But no one had seen anything, and with every hour
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  Speaker 1: that passed, hopes of seeing Leanna alive again was slipping away.
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  Speaker 10: If you were to look at the chances of a
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  Speaker 10: sixteen year old female disappearing and being found alive having
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  Speaker 10: not been found within the first four hours, then statistically
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  Speaker 10: there's a high likelihood that she has actually been murdered.
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  Speaker 1: Lean Tiernan had been missing for forty eight hours. Two
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  Speaker 1: hundred officers were working on one of West Yorkshire's biggest
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  Speaker 1: ever police operations.
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  Speaker 5: A case like this lives with you twenty four hours
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  Speaker 5: a day. You're trying to think what has happened to
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  Speaker 5: this girl and all these things are constantly turning over
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  Speaker 5: in your mind.
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  Speaker 1: In a desperate attempt to jog people's memories, the police
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  Speaker 1: staged a reconstruction of Leanne's last movements. Her sister Michelle
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  Speaker 1: played the part of Leanne.
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  Speaker 9: I did the reconstruction because I wanted to help. We
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  Speaker 9: don't get enough for sixteen bus where she would have
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  Speaker 9: normally got off for Sarah, and then I've just followed
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  Speaker 9: the uption would be ontaken. I think we were clutching
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  Speaker 9: at stras, but we were kind of hoping that she
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  Speaker 9: had run away and nothing bad had happened, even outside
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  Speaker 9: our character fair.
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  Speaker 1: The police were treating it as a Category A incident,
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  Speaker 1: the most serious they deal with. Leanne's family couldn't just
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: stand by watch. They too wanted to play a part
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: in bringing their daughter home alive.
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  Speaker 4: There were times when we were feeling pretty much down
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  Speaker 4: that she may have been taken and killed, but we
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  Speaker 4: really couldn't let ourselves or allow ourselves to believe that
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  Speaker 4: every day when you don't know, you wake up and
• 9:20
  Speaker 4: wonder is she going to be coming home today?
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  Speaker 7: All of a sudden, you'd getting pulled into the press things,
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  Speaker 7: You've been questioned by the police because you're all suspects.
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  Speaker 7: Friend's family, everybody's a suspects, and it she see us
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  Speaker 7: a total nightmare.
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  Speaker 4: Really, there were times when we were just driving, I
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: see a girl of her size and frame. You look
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  Speaker 4: and you think, could that be Leone and realize that
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  Speaker 4: it's not. It's it's a bit silly, I suppose, but
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  Speaker 4: it still happens.
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  Speaker 1: They even combed the local red light areas in the
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  Speaker 1: desperate belief that she may have been lowered into prostitution.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe as somebody kidnapped her, because you hear about and
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  Speaker 7: getting drugged and then they have to go out on
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  Speaker 7: the streets to pay back all the time, and they
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  Speaker 7: keep getting to get.
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  Speaker 2: Addicted and they have to keep going.
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  Speaker 7: And for some reason, that was a thought that was
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  Speaker 7: just stuck in haute all the time.
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  Speaker 4: They made a self believe that you're still alive when
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  Speaker 4: you don't know, you just you got.
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  Speaker 2: To keep on shining.
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  Speaker 4: You can't give up up.
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  Speaker 1: In the days and weeks After Leanne's disappearance, the police
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  Speaker 1: searched sixteen hundred buildings and acres of parks and woodlands,
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  Speaker 1: but there wasn't a single sighting or a shred of
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  Speaker 1: evidence of what had happened to her. The trail had
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  Speaker 1: gone cold, and Leanne seemed to have vanished into thin air.
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  Speaker 1: Nine months passed with no news. Then a man walking
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  Speaker 1: his dogs in a forest in the Yorkshire Dales made
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  Speaker 1: a terrible discovery.
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  Speaker 11: I was walking through the woods when I saw this package.
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  Speaker 11: So I stopped and investigated it. And I wasn't quite
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  Speaker 11: sure what to make of it. Really, it looked like, well,
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  Speaker 11: there was this bag in a douvet cover. I noticed
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  Speaker 11: then that there was a kind of shallow graved ground it,
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  Speaker 11: so I went to see the police. As the policeman
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  Speaker 11: cut down the bag, I saw a sock and I
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  Speaker 11: realized then that we'd actually found a body.
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  Speaker 5: I got the call in in the afternoon and I
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  Speaker 5: was told that a girl's body had been found at
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  Speaker 5: Lindley Woods. My immediate thoughts were, is this Leanne?
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  Speaker 1: Leanne had fired being found. Her body had been wrapped
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  Speaker 1: in binliners and a dovey cover.
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  Speaker 5: There's no easy way to explain to the parents of
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  Speaker 5: a child the details in circumstances like this as to
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  Speaker 5: how they've died and the way that the body has
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  Speaker 5: been found. But I took the view that they need
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  Speaker 5: to know and they will be told, and I'll be
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  Speaker 5: the person who explains it to them.
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  Speaker 4: Got a telephone call from the police to say that
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  Speaker 4: they found her body in North Yorkshire.
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  Speaker 7: I can't really remember much about was the point when
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  Speaker 7: the police actually came to tell us about it all.
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  Speaker 9: I got a phone call from my mum saying I
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  Speaker 9: think you better come home. I think they've found something.
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  Speaker 9: It hit the mom then, because she burst into tears
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  Speaker 9: in the garden. So I'd sort of like Walker, it's.
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  Speaker 7: Like watching TV and it's haply to somebody else. It
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  Speaker 7: just feels so unreal. It don't feel like if shield
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  Speaker 7: at sitting there.
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  Speaker 4: At the time when they first found out that couldn't
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  Speaker 4: really tell us exactly how she died, but they said
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  Speaker 4: that it looked like strangulation.
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  Speaker 1: Leanne had been strangled with a plastic cable tie which
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  Speaker 1: had been left in place around her neck, and there
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  Speaker 1: were cable ties binding her hands behind her back. A
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  Speaker 1: bag over her head had been secured with a dog
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  Speaker 1: collar and a scarf, ordinary household items put to the
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  Speaker 1: most sinister purpose.
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  Speaker 10: Forensically, it's almost like an Aladdin's cave. In this case,
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  Speaker 10: you had six seven, eight different items, all of which
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  Speaker 10: could give some sort of potential investigative direction. Any one
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  Speaker 10: of those could lead to the defender.
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  Speaker 5: It was important that each of these items that was
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  Speaker 5: found on it was investigated thoroughly because until you actually
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: start investigating me, you don't know where this is going
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  Speaker 5: to lead. The pair of detectives was tasked with finding
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  Speaker 5: out as much as they possibly could about the cable ties.
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  Speaker 5: One of the cable ties in particular was more significant
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  Speaker 5: than the others. But each cable tie had a manufacturer's
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: number stamped into it, and one of them we found
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: was exclusively supplied to the Royal Mail, so we were
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: considering carefully is a Royal Mail connection to the person
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  Speaker 5: who has done this. The other item that was found
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  Speaker 5: on Leand's back was a small twist of red carpet fiber.
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  Speaker 5: It was something that we couldn't afford to get into
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  Speaker 5: the public eye, and we knew that if we got
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: into the right house and the carpet was still down,
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  Speaker 5: it could be a vital breakthrough for us. The douvecover
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  Speaker 5: was a floral design. We had a lady who seven
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: days before Leann's body was found, she was driving past
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  Speaker 5: Lindley Woods with her husband and so a man lifting
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: out what she thought was a bundle of rags from
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: a car boot and she described it being a flaoral
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  Speaker 5: bundle and she thought, I hope that man's not going
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: to go and dump those rags in the woods. We
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: don't believe it was a bundle of rags. We believe
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  Speaker 5: that was Leann's body.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: The most difficult challenge facing the police was trying to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: trace the unmarked dog collar.
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  Speaker 5: The detectives were tasked with ringing over two hundred outlets
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  Speaker 5: and of course, with a dog collar off the shelf.
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  Speaker 5: Customer details records generally aren't kept, but we considered it
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  Speaker 5: a useful line of inquiry just in case one of
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: them did have any records. It was not an end
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  Speaker 5: enjoyable task, I'm sure, but it turned out to be
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  Speaker 5: the crucial task.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: The police knew it could take months or even years
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to track down Lianne's killer. Her family faced a more
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  Speaker 1: immediate task saying their final goodbyes.
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  Speaker 7: It was just a celebration of Leanne's life as opposed
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  Speaker 7: to a morbid funeral, because Leanne wasn't a more bid person.
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  Speaker 7: She was really vibrant and full of everything.
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  Speaker 3: For someone to be taken away from you, it's just
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  Speaker 3: a big smack in the face.
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  Speaker 1: Really. You read it and you watch it every day.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, no, that will happen to me, And it does.
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  Speaker 2: It does happen.
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  Speaker 4: Choosing flowers for your own daughter's funeral, that's the hardest
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  Speaker 4: thing in the world, you know that these flowers will
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  Speaker 4: be going on your daughter's coffin. I feel angry just
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: the fact that she's gone, but it's just a feeling
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  Speaker 4: of missing her.
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  Speaker 12: Lean so young, sir de beauty, she lit her pr
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  Speaker 12: lives like the sun. Taken so cruelly before her time?
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  Speaker 12: How could this baddy heat be done? A girl of
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  Speaker 12: Sir hiixteenth summers, her whole wife about to begin, taken
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  Speaker 12: so swiftly before her time, the result of a terrible sin.
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  Speaker 12: So Lord, we ask for resistance in light of this
• 17:49
  Speaker 12: hideous crime. Ensure that justice can be done, and the
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  Speaker 12: kerhel Pritzer.
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  Speaker 1: Has the time. Your eyes they shan like diamonds.
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  Speaker 12: In our heart, Tulee always remain lee Anne. We love
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  Speaker 12: you and me He's you, and day will be with
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  Speaker 12: you again.
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  Speaker 8: Lee Ann.
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  Speaker 12: Forever we have you.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: One day will be with you again. The huntfull Lianne's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: killer was becoming increasingly urgent. Scientific tests confirmed the police's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: worst fears for the last nine months. Her killer had
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: kept her body somewhere very cold, possibly even a freezer.
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  Speaker 10: I think there was a great deal of fear during
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: the investigation, particularly given that there'd been a nine month
• 18:52
  Speaker 10: gap before we'd actually discovered the body, of what else
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: could this person have done or a about to do.
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: And once it appeared that that body had been moved
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: from one location, probably a freezer, to Lindley Woods, then
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: there was a suggestion that has this body been moved
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  Speaker 10: so that there's now room for another victim.
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  Speaker 1: For the detectives trying to catch Leanne's killer, one question
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  Speaker 1: dominated their thoughts.
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  Speaker 5: When Leann's body was found. We wondered why Lindley Woods.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: To us, there must have been some significance to that.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't coincidence that Leann's body had been taken up
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: to Lindley Woods. A body could have been disposed of
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: anywhere in the Bramley area, Bramley Falls area, where it's
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: a large wooded area, that would have been an ideal place.
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  Speaker 5: We would have expected Lean's body to have been taken
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: and disposed of spring Wood Railway tunnel. All these places
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: would have been a good place for a killer to
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: dispose of a body, But no, the person who'd killed
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Lean wanted to take her to Lindley Woods, travel sixteen
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: miles to take her body there.
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  Speaker 10: Offenders don't just pick random locations when they choose to
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  Speaker 10: put a body away from where it's been murdered. They
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: go to places that they're comfortable in, that they're familiar with.
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  Speaker 10: That starts to reinforce the idea that there is a
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: strong association to Lindley Woods.
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  Speaker 5: What I would ask is for people to concentrate the
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: minds on Lindley Woods. What would certainly suggest is that
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Lean's body has not been left at random. The person
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: who will have left her body there will be familiar
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: with that location. If anyone has a grain of suspicion
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: as to who's done this, we need to hear from them.
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  Speaker 1: Single mum Deborah Benjamin heard the police appeals about the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Woods and remembered being taken there by a man she'd
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: met through a lonely high.
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  Speaker 3: I placed an advert in local paper explaining that I
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  Speaker 3: was blonde hair, Day's lies, five foot eight, outgoing like
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  Speaker 3: the outdoors, and then I received two replies, and one
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  Speaker 3: was from a man called John. We used to go
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: out doing a bit of game shooting and rab it in.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: We used to go do a bit of fishing in
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  Speaker 3: the stream. And that was about Lindley Woods itself. It
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: was on papers and police and people were talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, yeah, we used to go there. No
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: went from reminders such at the time. We used to
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: go all over, so I thought nothing of it.
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  Speaker 1: Someone else who knew of a connection to Lindley Woods
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  Speaker 1: was Michael Harding, who'd been going there since he was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a boy.
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  Speaker 13: We joined the Boys forgetting I was nine years old,
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  Speaker 13: and there was a i'd liked that used to come
• 22:00
  Speaker 13: with as an officer in the Boys Brigade, so obviously
• 22:03
  Speaker 13: we all sort of like looked up to him. We'd
• 22:06
  Speaker 13: come camping here. We'd come on a say, Friday night
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  Speaker 13: at tea time, sleep overnight and then we'd go for
• 22:13
  Speaker 13: walk around the lindle the Wood area.
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  Speaker 9: In the morning.
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  Speaker 13: I'd say it were between one hundred and fifty and
• 22:18
  Speaker 13: two hundred yards from Whalleyontina's body were found. At this time,
• 22:22
  Speaker 13: I said to my wife, you know, I've got it,
• 22:23
  Speaker 13: except for okay sort of thing, but obviously not you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 13: not knowing or just you know, simply forgot about it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: That both Debrah and Mike kept their thoughts to themselves,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: leaving the police still looking for a breakthrough.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: During the investigation, after the ant's body had been found,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: we had four hundred names of people who we were
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: intending to interview as potential suspects.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: They had a long list of people that needed to eliminate,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: but no prime suspects until late one Friday afternoon.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: The pieces of the jigsaw were there when the individual's
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: name that came with the breakthrough with the dog collar.
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: Just let me get a penciling retail.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: The detectives who'd found out the manufacture of the dog
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: collar were now trying to trace who it had been
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: sold to.
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: We asked the amateage to suppliers with a list of
• 23:16
  Speaker 14: every retailer that they supplied that model dog collar toop
• 23:20
  Speaker 14: We spoke to people from Land's End to the north
• 23:23
  Speaker 14: of Scotland, to small pet shops and to large retail antlets.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: The search was long and frustrating. Few shops kept records
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of individual customers, but one, an Internet supply from Liverpool,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: sent a list to D C. Wilson. As he went
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: down the list, one name stood out. A man living
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: not far from Leanne's home who brought six collars identical
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: to the one around her neck.
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: I saw that from Bramley area in Leeds and three
• 23:54
  Speaker 14: quarters a mile away from where Leyan disappeared. Was the
• 23:57
  Speaker 14: name John Taylor.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Immediately the team ran a check on the name.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: The name John Taylor was the person who the Lonely
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Hearts lady had rung in saying had mentioned about poaching
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: in Lindley Woods when he was a lad. We found
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: out that John Taylor worked for Parcel Force, which was
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: one of the Royal Mail companies, and we had a
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Royal Mail connection with the cable ties. He lived in Bramley,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: he'd lived there all his life. He was living just
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: over half a mile from where Leanne had been last seen.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: This was a person who now was emerging to us
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: as a very very interesting suspect.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: The police had a prime suspect for the murder of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: le Ane Tiernan. John Taylor lived less than a mile
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: from Hufley Gill, where she was last seen alive. This
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: is the video police shot as they first entered his house.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It was a scene of squalor. The house was filthy,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: all the carpets had been ripped up. On the kitchen
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: surface was a newspaper with a headline about Leanne. There
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: was animal hair and mess everywhere, but no sign of
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: any pets. When the police started to excavate the garden,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they found it was full of dead animals, but could
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: they link tailor to the clues found on Lean's body.
• 25:29
  Speaker 15: Over the course of days and weeks that we were
• 25:30
  Speaker 15: doing the search, we found carpet fibers. Carpet fibers turned
• 25:36
  Speaker 15: out to match the carpet fibers that were found on
• 25:40
  Speaker 15: Lean's back. We found dog collars that matched the type
• 25:45
  Speaker 15: of dog color that was around Leanne's neck. We also
• 25:50
  Speaker 15: found amongst the palettes in the gardens used cable ties that,
• 25:55
  Speaker 15: when they were examined, closely matched the type of cable
• 25:59
  Speaker 15: ties had been around Leand's wrists, and also one that
• 26:03
  Speaker 15: had been used as ligature around Leon's neck.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Having searched his house. Now the police needed to get
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: inside Taylor's mind.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Now it was the case of digging into his background,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: finding out as much as we could about who this
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: character is. We knew nothing about him, and we had
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: to start piecing together what made this person tick, What
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: was his life? We knew he lived alone, We knew
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: he'd been married and had a grown up family, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: he had been on his own for several years.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: The police discovered that Taylor had been a regular user
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of Lonely Hearts ads. Detectives used his phone bills to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: identify the women he'd met on a single scene. Deborah
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Benjamin had been his lover and shared his house.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: We was dating each other and then a few weeks
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: later I thought we get on good and that lot,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: and he asked me to move in with him. So
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: moved into his house. Months after I'd moved in, and
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: he just started to change and demanding this, demanding that
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: he wanted me to wear more skirts and more blouses,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: become more feminine rarely which it's not me, but.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Taylor's demands didn't stop there.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: The sexual side of things, well there was none really.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: What he did it was just sickening. He got his
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: kicks out of being sadistic and tying up Basically, what
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: did he want to tie up with?
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Cable ties?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: The cable ties was in his straw loose, the bundles
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: of different colors, different lengths there were and when he
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: needed them, Yeah, he won't stop.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Felt as if I was just felt like rape. Deborah
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: had no idea that Taylor was capable of murder until
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: she heard from the police.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Two detectors were knocking at my door and I mentioned
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: his name and asked what it was about, and then
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: asked me to describe how it tied me in which
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: way he tied me which had told him me one
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: cable tie on each hand, wristed behind my back, with
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: another cable tie tucked in between, joined in the middle.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: It did turn out that the configuration of the cable
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: ties that Taylor used to tie the lady with was
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: exactly the same way as Leanne had been tied with.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Now that to us confirmed categorically that we were on
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: to the right person here and that Taylor was responsible
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: for Land's murder.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Taylor was arrested and brought him for questioning.
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: Can you tell me how often you visited Hufflely Gill
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: that I been down there for years.
• 29:09
  Speaker 16: Okay, it's not somewhere I used to go, certainly not
• 29:11
  Speaker 16: toward the dog.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: When he was first questioned, he denied any knowledge of
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: being involved in Lend's disappearance. What he told us had
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: happened was that he'd been to Huffler Gill for the
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: first time that Sunday and was carrying a dog lead,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: and while he was there, a girl had come walking
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: down the gill. He said, the girl walked past him,
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: he turned around and grabbed her and told her not
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: to scream. He said that he tied the girl's hands
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: behind her back with the dog lead and then walked
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: her back to his house, which is over half a mile.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: When he got back to the house, he explained that
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: he'd taken her up to the bedroom. He'd heard her
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: phone ringing and asked her which buttons he needed to
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: turn the fallon off, and she, clearly terrified at this point,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: had told him so he turned the phone off. That's
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: when her mother would have been trying to wring her.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: He then describes a struggle taking place between himself and Leanne,
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: and Leanne falling from the bed and banging ahead, but.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: John Taylor couldn't explain why Leanne was found with a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: cable tie and a scarf knotted a round her neck.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: It wasn't until the first day of his trial that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he admitted murdering Leanne. The judge described him as a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: dangerous sexual sadist. By pleading guilty, Taylor avoided having to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: say what really went on in the house. As he
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: left for Wakefield Prison to serve his two life sentences,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he took his secrets with him fully. Yann's family every
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: day is a reminder of what Taylor has taken from them.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Just seems like yesterday to two minutes ago, she was
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: here with us. I'll just say it, big smiles. She
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: always had, That's what I say. Still, this is the
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: actual spot where she found.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: It's nice to come in and have a look at things.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And another still here, this is.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: The actual bedding that she had on the bed actually
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: when she went missing, had this that long than the
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: police have had it obviously for forensics and got big
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: gold in it. And I actually got this as part
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: of it sixteenth birthday. I'm not throwing it away at
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: a bit closer to us.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Sometimes remember it being really really quiet, A little robin
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: if I had come a foot tree.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: It's so chirpy.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: And the strange thing is that sometime after we'll be
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: talking about it to relatives and friends. So would also
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: have been the Dollso seen this rubbing that scene, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: they all comments commented on it. So now chirpy this
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: robbing was. It was as if it was something.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: Sort of imagine how she used to look when she
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: were curled up in bed, but she would always count.
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: They always had to go in and rub her back,
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: and she went to bed to one with up a bit.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: I just sort of, I don't know.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: That keeps you a little bit closer to her. Share
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: a lovely me, a little baby.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: The murder of Leanne was John Taylor's first criminal conviction,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: but the premeditated nature and violence of the attack suggested
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to the police that this was not his only offense.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: It would be very easy to now put John Taylor
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: to one side and forget about him. Is serving two
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: life sentences, but we are trying to piece together what
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: is possibly done before that. And since.
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: People that carry out these sort of offenses tend to
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: have a criminal background, tend to be people that are
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: known to police, tend to be people that will be
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: on the initial list of potential suspects when it's discovered
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: that there's a murder. John Taylor doesn't really fit that mold.
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: He's someone that has a family background, that has children,
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: that at least on the surface, appears to have maintained
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: a relatively normal family life. He's someone that has clearly
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: got to a particular stage in life and has committed
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: this offense. But the trail that is usually left that
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: leads up to that event is simply not there, or
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: was simply not there in police records.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: The police returned to Taylor's house looking for clues to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: other crimes he could have committed. They took up the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: floorboards in his bedroom to see if they could find
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: DNA traces of any other victims he might have killed there.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: A necklace found in the boot of his car provided
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: hope of a breakthrough, but tests for DNA failed to
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: provide anything positive. The woman who wore this necklace has
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: never been traced. Taylor's former friends gave them more evidence
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: of his callous nature. The police already knew that petsburied
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: in his garden had been killed with a meat cleaver.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Now they found out about his extreme methods of poaching.
• 35:23
  Speaker 13: They decided that we're going to go to Pail the
• 35:24
  Speaker 13: bridge one night and killer shape. John drove up the shape,
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: he said were stuck out on the right side of
• 35:30
  Speaker 13: the road. Beat the sheep's back end and it's headed
• 35:33
  Speaker 13: the dawn and fell in the ditch. Got out with
• 35:36
  Speaker 13: the car, put the sheep in the back of the car,
• 35:39
  Speaker 13: and took it back to his house where next morning
• 35:42
  Speaker 13: he took the sheep out and took it into his bathroom,
• 35:45
  Speaker 13: put it in his bath and skinned it and put
• 35:48
  Speaker 13: it in his bathroom.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: The more the police learned about Taylor, the more they
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: were convinced that Leanne wasn't his first victim. They began
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: reinvestigating unsolved attacks on women.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: We know that John Taylor has committed one murder. We're
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: here to find out whether it's committed others. But my
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: instinct is that this man is certainly capable of committing
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: the most serious offenses.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Four months after John Taylor was imprisoned for life, he
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: was brought out of jail to face more questioning. The
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: police wanted to talk to him about two unsolved rapes.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: The attacks happened in the late nineteen eighties, had John
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Taylor's reign of terror lasted more than a decade. The
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: whole team was standing by. They had Taylor's entire life
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: mapped out so they could check out any alibis he
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: might come up with. The day had been planned in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: minute detail. The same detectives who quiz Taylor about Liamne
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: were selected to question him on the rapes.
• 36:54
  Speaker 16: Yes, so this is a big day. Who has an
• 36:56
  Speaker 16: enormous amount of work been known at present A lot
• 36:59
  Speaker 16: of times we've been spent going back fourteen years laison
• 37:03
  Speaker 16: with the forensic laboratory speaking to detectives who were involved
• 37:06
  Speaker 16: in the original inquiry, and today's day that we've got
• 37:10
  Speaker 16: Taylor here and we need to put some questions to him.
• 37:12
  Speaker 16: We'd like to think we can get him talking and
• 37:14
  Speaker 16: get some questions answered on behalf of the victims.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: If we can clear up even one other offense that
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: he's committed, it's putting one person's life possibly back in
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: some kind of order. We have to start somewhere when
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: we're looking at what other offenses he may have committed,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: and the natural place we felt we should start is
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: in Bramley itself and Huffly Gill.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: The detectives had reinvestigated scores of attacks. Two rapes stood out.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: They'd taken place near Huffley Gill, the very same spot
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: where Leanne had been kidnapped.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: When we questioned John Taylor regarding the merger of Leanne,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: he initially told us that was the first time had
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: been into Houghley Gill. We strongly believe that isn't the case.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Previously, all the police had to go on was the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: artist's impression of the rapist. Now, scientists to use the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: latest DNA techniques to test samples taken from the victims
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: fourteen years earlier. The results matched Taylor's own DNA. In
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the first attack, Taylor had struck within yards of where
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Leanne had been poundsd on. I left to watch school
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to pick my daughter up. I was going to cut
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: across the gill.
• 38:31
  Speaker 17: I'd only taken about four or five steps when I
• 38:34
  Speaker 17: was grabbed from behind. He pulled a knife out. He
• 38:37
  Speaker 17: then said lay down flat, so I lay down. He
• 38:40
  Speaker 17: still had the knife in his right hand.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: On the second occasion, he'd broken into a woman's house
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: near Huffley Gill in the middle of the afternoon.
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: I saw a tall man wearing a black mask over
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: his face and a knife in his hand. By this time,
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: I daughter had started crying. He started to take my
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: cardigan off. I thought in my mind that this man
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: wasn't just a burglar. He said that he went to
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: different parts of the country and did the same thing
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: to other women.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: John Taylor lied in many respects in relation to Leann's
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: kidnapp and murder. So we take the view that why
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: should he now suddenly start telling the truth about other
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: matters if he is involved in them.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Despite the DNA evidence that showed there was just a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: one in a billion chance he was not responsible, Taylor
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: denied being the Huffly Gill rapist. He was charged with
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: both offenses and returned to his prison cell. There were
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: fourteen years between the rapes and the murder of Leanne.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Were these isolated incidents in Taylor's life or part of
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: a series of terrible crimes.
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: When you look at where John's has offended or where
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: we know he's offended, it's interesting that Huffley Gil appears again,
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: and it comes back to the idea of familiarity and
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: of comfort. By extension, you would need to consider other
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: locations that are significant to John Taylor. So for example,
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: you know that Lindley Woods obviously forms a strong part
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: of his his geography. Somewhere that he's chosen to take
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: Leanne's body.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Lindley Woods could hold the key to more of Taylor's secrets.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety two, another woman's body was found in
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the woods, just yards from Leanne's shallow grave. It was
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yvonne Fitt, who disappeared from Bradford. Yvonne's murderer had brought
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: her body twelve miles in order to leave it there.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Is it just coincidence that two female bodies have turned
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: up in the same woods or is it more than that? Clearly,
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: we've got to look very carefully at that particular crime,
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: and we've got to make sure that if is any
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: evidence whatsoever there to be found to connect or otherwise
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Taylor to that crime, then we've got to investigate it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Like other killers, Taylor wanted the comfort of familiar surroundings.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Were there other places he might have visited? When Taylor
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: first started poaching, it was this man who showed him
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: where to go. It seems that Taylor's hunting ground extended
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: beyond the familiar haunts of Huffley, Gill and Lindley Woods.
• 41:35
  Speaker 18: Some places where I seen John Taylor. It could go
• 41:39
  Speaker 18: from Breca dawn till end at night without being seen.
• 41:42
  Speaker 18: If he just looked at bath and railway lines, you
• 41:45
  Speaker 18: just never ever saw him with anybody, always on his own.
• 41:52
  Speaker 18: If I were walking up one pat old railway line,
• 41:55
  Speaker 18: he'd be walking towards me and then it just turn
• 41:57
  Speaker 18: around and disappear. Go mulchi is what you call just
• 42:10
  Speaker 18: walking around oat woods following alt tracks. John Taylor are
• 42:14
  Speaker 18: rubbish ap poached me and my brother go out and
• 42:17
  Speaker 18: get seven hundred rabbits. He'd go out and get four
• 42:19
  Speaker 18: or five? What is mine?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Were early on while.
• 42:22
  Speaker 18: We're looking out for his next victim, I've seen John
• 42:29
  Speaker 18: Taylor rabbit dont Railway bank is around there over an
• 42:32
  Speaker 18: air kirt still and from there you can walk right
• 42:34
  Speaker 18: across viaducts and come out. In Burley Park Railway Station.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety six, emergency services were called to put
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: out a fire at Burley Park Railway station in Leeds.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: When they arrived, they found it was the body of
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a young woman that had been set alight. Like le Anne, Deborah,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Wood's body was wrapped in binline embedding unlikely Anne. She
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: appeared to have been frozen. It came on the local news.
• 43:14
  Speaker 19: It just said that the founder a bodied Burleigh Railway station.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: They said that, oh, what were left was.
• 43:25
  Speaker 19: These red fingered gloves. And then I know that it
• 43:29
  Speaker 19: was a mad daughter, Deborah. I think about it every day.
• 43:38
  Speaker 19: All can do this thing? Take a precious data away
• 43:42
  Speaker 19: from me? Yes, this is so evil.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: You know, Linda lives in hope that if Taylor did
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: kill her daughter, he might one day confess.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: It's nearly seven years and we still don't know has
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: done it. If I found someone, I.
• 44:03
  Speaker 19: Would feel a lot better and be able to get
• 44:05
  Speaker 19: on with my life.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: It's not very nice knowing that somebody has actually done
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: this to your child. I do feel a kind of
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: connection with families that are actually in a position that
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: I was in before they actually caught on Taylor m hm.
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: The fact that I actually know who killed LeAnn didn't
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: make things any easier for me. But then again, I
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: suppose if I didn't know, I would be wanting to know.
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: H There were just the three of us, and we
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: just sort of like us against everybody else, if you like.
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: Now it's just the two of us, it just feel
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: a bit strange, keep expecting a little always piping up
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: from the back saying, oh no, we don't want that,
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: we want this, and it doesn't happen, and it's just funny.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It's just strange.
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  Speaker 7: He took out for my life. My life's always been
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: for my kids. I've always done everything I possibly could
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: for them, which it just makes it seem even more
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: unfair that we had so little, but we always had
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: each other, and he had to pickann.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: On February the fourth, two thousand and three, John Taylor
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: admitted being the houghly Gil rapist. He was given a
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: further two life sentences and we'll know now end his
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: days in prison, But the police won't forget about him.
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  Speaker 5: We'll work as long and as hard as is necessary
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: to uncover any other offense, as serious offenses that he's committed.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: No stone will be left unturned as far as John
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: Taylor's concerned, he should be answerable for any of the
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: serious matters that he may have committed.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: But without further breakthroughs or a confession, there is no
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: way of knowing how many lives Taylor's evil may have touched,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: and how many secrets could lie buried in the woods. Next,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the playful child who turned into a twisted, unhinged killer,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: with six rapes and fourteen murders to his name before
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: his capture, aged just twenty five, Richard Ramirez