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#53 | Mista Play Boy · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: What's going on here on Cope Screwse originals here?
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SPEAKER_01: Which one am I looking at, man?
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SPEAKER_01: This one here?
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SPEAKER_01: Right or left?
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SPEAKER_01: Which one?
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SPEAKER_01: Cope Screwsey Regionals, y'all.
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SPEAKER_01: Here, back at it again.
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SPEAKER_01: Episode.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know which episode it is, but we got uh one of the OGs here.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh one of the veterans.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, Mr.
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SPEAKER_01: Playboy, what's going on, man?
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SPEAKER_05: What's going on, brother?
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SPEAKER_01: Dude, nice to finally meet you, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's an honor, man.
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SPEAKER_05: My pleasure.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I started my brand, and then that's when I found out about you.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh to be honest, uh yeah, and I looking around, I was like, is there anybody else in town doing it?
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SPEAKER_01: And you've been doing it since 13?
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SPEAKER_05: 2013.
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SPEAKER_01: 2013, bro.
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SPEAKER_01: Shoot.
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SPEAKER_01: You're way ahead.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like like everything else.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm always late to the game, bro.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: That's the story of my life, bro.
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SPEAKER_05: So good, man.
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SPEAKER_05: I'll be late to my own funeral trust.
0:47
SPEAKER_05: That's what's up, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh, yeah, so that's how I came out, came out, uh, found out about you.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: And then I recently heard about the you on the Right and High podcast, which you guys go check it out if you haven't checked it out.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shout out to them.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, so you've been doing a lot of stuff in the city, man.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: Just from listening to that.
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SPEAKER_01: Try to, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like and I like how you're humbled about it too, man.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, yeah, I bet I've buried a lot of people, you know.
1:16
SPEAKER_05: So it's I look at it as uh where I'm from, I mean, my life could have gone a lot of different ways, you know what I'm saying?
1:23
SPEAKER_05: So uh I wake up every day blessed, man.
1:27
SPEAKER_05: I'm glad that um I'm here.
1:29
SPEAKER_05: I'm glad that my kids are good, you know, my family's good.
1:32
SPEAKER_05: Um, a lot of my closest friends are good, and you know, every day I wake up, I just you know, thank the man above that I'm still here, man.
1:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, because again, where I'm from, uh life could have gone a lot of different ways.
1:44
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of people that um never really got to see a lot, you know what I mean?
1:50
SPEAKER_05: So yeah.
1:51
SPEAKER_01: How's it going, Francesca?
1:52
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for joining, mama.
1:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so when you say that, you mean like people that you grew up with uh in in on the west side of town, right?
1:59
SPEAKER_05: Not just growing up, but I mean I'm just talking about people that I've met along the way that, you know, are considered my best friends, you know what I mean?
2:06
SPEAKER_05: I buried my best friend when I was 23 years old.
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SPEAKER_05: He was 27, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: Um I recently buried another good friend of mine um last year, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: Um and these are people that you know you hang out with every day, you do business with every day, and you just never know that you're gonna do that, you know.
2:25
SPEAKER_05: So it's it's kind of it's it's kind of put me on um how can I say it's it's it's kind of just kept me on a straight arrow, man.
2:35
SPEAKER_05: You know, to not try to get caught up in the bullshit and everything like that.
2:38
SPEAKER_05: So those I can cuss on here, right?
2:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay, because I got I got a mouth like a sandwich.
2:43
SPEAKER_05: That's all good.
2:43
SPEAKER_01: I I don't cuss and people when people hear me not cussing, they're like, what the talk about, right?
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, uh shoot man.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: Um that makes me like how so how does that I know you said it helps you to like fry fly straight, but how how does the when stuff like that happens in your life, how does it affect your decision making uh from then on?
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SPEAKER_05: Um at this point, I I I'm on I mean it's gonna sound crazy, but I'm I'm to the point, man, where I'm already kind of like immune to it.
3:13
SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, it's it's it kind of started when I buried my best friend uh Mark Casanova.
3:19
SPEAKER_05: Um because again, I I wasn't equipped to you know, I had never buried a best friend, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_05: And and it's and I think it's a little bit different of when you like, you know, bury a grandparent or something like that, or an uncle, or you know, something, you know, it's it's to me it's it was a little bit different because this is a person, you know, like I said, uh when I in the midst of like in my music career, you know, we had certain goals and we're certain we were doing certain things, whatever, and then you know, he went into the hospital and he was in there for like one week, man, and then I remember just saying, like, hey, I'll be right back, or whatever, and then from one hour to the next, um just things changed and he passed away from the moment that I left the hospital.
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SPEAKER_01: So So he you had a relationship with him, and like you were saying, like your aunt or your uncle or whatever, you really don't have that much.
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SPEAKER_05: No, I do.
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SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, don't get me wrong.
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SPEAKER_05: Like I I have like it I'm just saying that it's it was a little bit different for me because it it it kind of showed me that you know life is short and you know we as people take it for granted at certain points, you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_05: And um it it just kind of it it it kind of opened my eyes, but then it also made me kind of pull myself away from everybody, you know, even my kids at a certain point, like it it made me feel like I I couldn't get close to anything because I felt like well if I get close to it, I'm gonna lose it anyway.
4:52
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
4:53
SPEAKER_05: I still kind of think like that to be honest on certain things.
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SPEAKER_05: Like that's why my attitude is just kind of like eh, whatever.
4:59
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
4:59
SPEAKER_05: But it's also the Sagittarius in me as well.
5:02
SPEAKER_05: Right on, right on, yeah, man.
5:04
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, but I did think about stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_05: My my attitude is like that with a lot of different stuff.
5:08
SPEAKER_05: I don't I try not to stress shit.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't, I don't, you know, I don't try to like dwell over shit, you know.
5:14
SPEAKER_05: I I've took my losses like everybody else, but at the same time, like I don't in my day-to-day, I don't have time to sit and bitch and complain about it.
5:22
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
5:23
SPEAKER_05: If I do, it's for about five seconds and then I just gotta keep moving, you know.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: So the mind the mind of a hustler.
5:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, pretty much.
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SPEAKER_05: That's all I know, to be honest.
5:31
SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah, and hustling comes in a hundred different ways.
5:34
SPEAKER_05: That's what people don't understand about it.
5:36
SPEAKER_05: But I mean, that's all I know, bro.
5:38
SPEAKER_05: I I don't, I mean, I stopped working in 905 when I was like 22 years old.
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SPEAKER_01: What do you mean, a hundred different ways?
5:43
SPEAKER_05: I mean, everybody's selling something when you think about it.
5:47
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
5:48
SPEAKER_05: You go to church every Sunday, somebody's on the on on that platform selling you, you know, a pill of hope.
5:55
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
5:55
SPEAKER_05: There's people um selling banana bread in Walmart, you know.
6:01
SPEAKER_05: Um you know, us with clothing and and you know, music, um, car insurance, you know, it's just everybody selling something, bro.
6:09
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_05: So it's like that's why I always try to tell people, and even you know, people younger than me that don't really have an outlook on shit, is just like, man, if you can find something that you're good at, find a niche in it, and and if it's profitable, I mean, just stick with it, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: But I I think what it is is that a lot of people have the mentality that just because you put money on the table, that you're automatically gonna become a millionaire overnight, and and that's just not the perception that you gotta look at, you know.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: So people don't see the trial and error either.
6:40
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, not even people want quick money, that's what it is, you know.
6:43
SPEAKER_05: And and I've just always been around people that have always just been a hundred percent with me, have never like sold me a wolf ticket, you know, whether it be a family member or like like I said, one of my close friends.
6:59
SPEAKER_05: Like, I think that's why too.
7:01
SPEAKER_05: I I stay humble and I stay with the attitude that I have.
7:05
SPEAKER_05: Because if I was sitting on this platform right now and I'm acting like somebody that I'm not, and I'm and I'm like, oh, trying to make myself look like this.
7:14
SPEAKER_05: Trust me, man.
7:14
SPEAKER_05: When I walk out this room, I'll get a phone call and be like, bro, why the fuck you up there doing that shit?
7:18
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
7:19
SPEAKER_05: So and I don't that those are the people that I grew up around with.
7:24
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
7:24
SPEAKER_05: So it it was just that's just how I am, man.
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SPEAKER_01: If you do that, it's it's flimsy, like you feel that it's flimsy.
7:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, there's only a fall over.
7:33
SPEAKER_05: There's two sides to a fence.
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SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_05: You can be on the one that's real and you can be on the one that bullshits if you think about it.
7:41
SPEAKER_05: You know, that's the way I look at it.
7:42
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_05: It's just you gonna so all that fake until you make it, man, it's cool.
7:46
SPEAKER_05: It was cool in the past, but I think we're in a we're in a world now to where it's like who really fucking cares at this point, you know what I'm saying?
7:54
SPEAKER_05: Like, if if I I'm not a pocket watcher, I don't count other people's money, you know what I'm saying?
7:59
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of people that do that shit, and and I think what it is is they you you fall down a rabbit hole.
8:05
SPEAKER_05: And that's what social media is, is as well.
8:07
SPEAKER_05: You know, right now there's people putting their whole business on Facebook, but if you comment it a comment, they'll turn around and be like, Stay the fuck out of my business.
8:16
SPEAKER_05: And it's like, you just put your business on Facebook.
8:20
SPEAKER_05: So it's like, you know what I mean?
8:23
SPEAKER_05: So it's kind of like fucking stupid, but you know, you come a long way from that, huh?
8:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it's just like we're kind of like the same age, man.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
8:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I just turned 38, man.
8:35
SPEAKER_05: I'm still looking 21.
8:36
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah, bro.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll be 42 in November, man.
8:40
SPEAKER_05: That's what happens when uh, you know, you don't do drugs and you don't drink every day, all day, and pop pills on shit.
8:47
SPEAKER_05: You know, you get the clean face, you know.
8:53
SPEAKER_05: I know motherfuckers my age and they look 60, bro.
8:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm just like, stay up the leaning pills.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, them cigarettes will do people dirt.
9:03
SPEAKER_05: And I've seen I've seen some people that I, you know, yeah, I'm not gonna go too in depth with it, but I've seen some people that I know on the on the on the jail lab, and I'm like, god damn, y'all look old as shit.
9:15
SPEAKER_05: Y'all are only 30, like stay off the drugs, man.
9:18
SPEAKER_05: Like crazy man, like whatever they're taking, I don't want it.
9:22
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
9:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, bro.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, yeah, and that man, I do I really dig your like your work ethic, just listening to that podcast and just meeting you now and seeing all the stuff that you're doing, man, and that you have been doing like damn, where does that come from?
9:35
SPEAKER_01: And then I know you mentioned your mom and your dad in the podcast, which I don't know, did you learn it from them or or could you?
9:43
SPEAKER_05: Um my I I would say the work ethic, um, I I got a lot from my pops because my dad, um, from not just having a regular job, my dad is one of those people that can fix anything, can do anything, you know, and he's really, really good at it.
10:03
SPEAKER_05: And even when he worked his his regular job uh with the school district, um, like on the weekends, if somebody was like, Hey, can you do this for me?
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SPEAKER_05: Do that, and he's like, Oh, yeah, whatever, if you wanted to, right?
10:14
SPEAKER_05: And you know, my dad stays busy.
10:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like my dad's retired now, and he's still busy.
10:19
SPEAKER_05: It's hardly that you'll see him sitting down.
10:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know what I mean.
10:22
SPEAKER_05: My mom is the same way now, they're both retired, and um, but they're just always constantly moving.
10:27
SPEAKER_05: Um, I I think I think the way my dad looks at it is like if he just sits down and does nothing, it's just life's just gonna just pass you by quicker than what it would be if you're actually doing stuff, you know what I mean?
10:40
SPEAKER_05: But I get a lot of my my my hustling from him just from seeing him do multiple different things and just you know, you know, never really sitting down.
10:49
SPEAKER_05: And and that's why I don't, you know, one, I like expensive stuff, two, my kids like expensive stuff.
10:57
SPEAKER_05: And um it's just all I know, man.
10:59
SPEAKER_05: I I just and in the world that I'm in, I mean, again, I don't work a regular nine to five, you know.
11:06
SPEAKER_05: I don't wake up at 7 30 in the morning, be at work at 8, and then I get off at 8 5, you know.
11:10
SPEAKER_05: Like it there's some days, bro, I don't even go to sleep till six in the morning.
11:15
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
11:15
SPEAKER_05: From the moment that I wake up, you know what I mean?
11:17
SPEAKER_05: So it's it's it's a lot of shit, you know.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: So so you like that lifestyle?
11:21
SPEAKER_01: Do when you chose it, you're like, yeah, this is what I want to do.
11:24
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I can you know what's so crazy?
11:25
SPEAKER_05: It's you know, because a lot of people have asked me that before, but um, I could never sit back and bitch and complain about something that I chose to do.
11:33
SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's like being, you know, if I signed up to be a truck driver and then I'm complaining, like, oh shit, I'm never home.
11:38
SPEAKER_05: And it's like, well, shit, you signed up for it.
11:41
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
11:41
SPEAKER_05: So I I can never sit, I all I've ever wanted to do was rap.
11:46
SPEAKER_05: That's all I've ever wanted to do.
11:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
11:48
SPEAKER_05: I I played sports in junior high.
11:50
SPEAKER_05: I only did it because, you know, all my other friends were doing it, my my pops, you know, enjoyed watching me do it or whatever, and you know, but once that shit was over and I got into high school, I didn't care about anything else, bro.
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SPEAKER_05: I wasn't trying to be a part of no groups, I wasn't trying to be the basketball team, football team, none of that shit.
12:07
SPEAKER_05: All I wanted to do was rap and do music.
12:09
SPEAKER_05: So that's all I ever wanted to do.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: And you said one of your influences was was your brother who was in actually a metal band.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, my older brother.
12:17
SPEAKER_01: Which is wow, totally different side of the musical spectrum, I guess you could say.
12:21
SPEAKER_01: So, and then you you wrote uh poetry.
12:24
SPEAKER_01: You started writing poetry at one point.
12:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I used to write poetry in school, and that's when I kind of learned that I I was able to put words together um pretty good.
12:33
SPEAKER_05: But uh I got a lot of my influence from my older brother, my my my older brother and my second older brother.
12:39
SPEAKER_05: So it's it's four of us all together.
12:41
SPEAKER_05: I'm the baby out of my brothers.
12:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
12:43
SPEAKER_05: Um so my my older brother, my second older brother, um, they did heavy metal music.
12:49
SPEAKER_05: My third brother didn't do no music, he was more into like in the business side of things with stuff that he chose to do.
12:57
SPEAKER_05: So he was really good of doing with all that.
12:59
SPEAKER_05: So my two older brothers, but my uh my brother Julian uh was always into like hip-hop.
13:06
SPEAKER_05: So a lot of the first like rap albums and stuff that I actually listened to was from him, you know, things like that.
13:12
SPEAKER_05: But I grew up on everything from um Metallica, Ozzy Osborn, uh Megadeth, Seppathuda to Um, you know, Selena lived right down the street from me.
13:26
SPEAKER_05: So listening to Spanish music, um, to just regular pop.
13:30
SPEAKER_05: So I mean, I'm I I listen to it all, man.
13:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right on.
13:34
SPEAKER_01: Um thanks a lot, Garza, for the for the for the stuff that you there's a chat right there.
13:38
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you, Garza.
13:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh he said you he said keep up the good work.
13:42
SPEAKER_05: Oh, appreciate it, boss, man.
13:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, man.
13:44
SPEAKER_05: I do.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh thinking about uh yeah, so you grew up in Molina, and then I heard you on the hot 97 you were rapping on there.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: First thing you said was like Motown, West Point, Motown, West Haven.
13:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was and I I didn't even know I'm I'm not from the West Side, bro.
14:01
SPEAKER_01: I grew up Central, East, Southeast, whatever.
14:03
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what the call uh what we consider the good part of town, yeah, exactly.
14:09
SPEAKER_05: Nice part of town.
14:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: At least from the Hispanic.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: We were on the Hispanic.
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SPEAKER_05: Like, oh, you live on the side, you're on the good part of the umbrella.
14:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, you live on the good side.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
14:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you said uh so when you said that I was like, West Haven, that there has to be something over there on the so I even looked it up on the map, bro.
14:32
SPEAKER_05: Well, that what it is is that Molina is is it's um it's that part is kind of considered West Haven on one side, and then it's Molina on the rest.
14:44
SPEAKER_05: It's it's kind of weird.
14:45
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's all when you say Molina, people would know like, okay, that whole section, but it's just broken down like that little whole little section is called West Haven because of the park and that section of Molina.
14:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, but it's all Molina in general, like we're all family, yeah.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: Right on.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: And then he was saying that that even your parents' parents are from.
15:02
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, my whole family's from there.
15:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:05
SPEAKER_05: There ain't no um so what it was was was growing up, my brothers, um, my parents when they were coming up, because my my again, I'm the the youngest out of my brothers, my my brothers are the ones that didn't move um into the Molina Molina neighborhood until I was actually gonna be born.
15:29
SPEAKER_05: So, what it was was that, but my grandparents and the rest of my family lived there.
15:34
SPEAKER_05: It's just my parents didn't live there, they lived in uh an apartment, I believe.
15:38
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
15:38
SPEAKER_05: So uh coming up, or whatever.
15:39
SPEAKER_05: Gotcha.
15:40
SPEAKER_05: And um, because my dad used to work in an apartment complex before he got into CCISD.
15:45
SPEAKER_05: So um, and I think if I'm not mistaken, hopefully I'm not telling this wrong.
15:51
SPEAKER_05: I think the house that my parents bought, they used to walk by it coming home from school.
16:00
SPEAKER_05: And then they they bought it.
16:01
SPEAKER_05: They bought that one, yeah.
16:02
SPEAKER_05: Girl, I mean, when they you know got old enough or whatever.
16:05
SPEAKER_05: But my my grandparents had been there, I think, before there was even pavement on the street, from what I from I think what I was told.
16:12
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
16:13
SPEAKER_05: So, and I mean at and I remember my grandpa saying too, um, I don't even think the golf course was back there or something.
16:20
SPEAKER_05: I'm not too sure.
16:21
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's very long ago when when when you know I would hear these things, but yeah, yeah, but I that's all I know, man.
16:27
SPEAKER_05: That's I mean, I I ain't never lived on the south, yeah, you know, east, north, or nothing else.
16:32
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's definitely got its own culture, man.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, most definitely.
16:36
SPEAKER_05: I mean, dude, at a certain point, you didn't come into Molina unless you knew somebody, you lived there, or you were buying somebody straight up, you know what I mean?
16:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
16:45
SPEAKER_05: So it wasn't a place a fun place to just walk into if you didn't know anybody.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, and you're so you're mentioning that so the there's blacks on that side of town too, and you was uh kind of hanging with both of them.
16:57
SPEAKER_05: Well, our whole neighborhood is is dominant uh Hispanics and and blacks, yeah.
17:01
SPEAKER_05: Right on, right on, yeah.
17:02
SPEAKER_05: So, but we're all family, man.
17:04
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's I mean, we all come up together, we all came up together, we're all still coming up together.
17:11
SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, it's just one of those neighborhoods, and and it's the same for everywhere.
17:15
SPEAKER_05: I don't make it, I mean, um, I don't want to make it seem like it's just in Molina, but you know, it's one of those neighborhoods that like you can go down the street and sometimes you don't even have to knock on the door, you know.
17:26
SPEAKER_05: It's just like, hey man, I'm here.
17:28
SPEAKER_05: You know, it's just it's just that type of thing.
17:30
SPEAKER_05: It's you know, but it's it's in our neighborhood too.
17:33
SPEAKER_05: We all look out for each other, you know.
17:35
SPEAKER_05: Um if things come out missing, you know, you better take that shit back before we're out crazy, you know.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: So there's that level of respect.
17:43
SPEAKER_05: Oh, most definitely, to a certain extent.
17:45
SPEAKER_05: I mean, we still have you know knuckleheads and stuff that you know do random dumb shit and things like that, like anybody else.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, of course.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: You gotta take the good with the bad, I think always, yeah.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: So so that so crooked Christie, does that have to do with like I guess what what does it come from, like in your on your like from your side of the story?
18:06
SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, crooked Christie was just a term that was just used in the streets, you know, people it was just something that people would say.
18:13
SPEAKER_05: Um, and it was just used, you know, to describe whatever you felt it was crooked, you know, the city council, the this and that, you know, whatever it is, you know.
18:25
SPEAKER_05: And it it's when this idea popped up, you know, I was just like, man, let's just call it crooked Christie, you know what I mean?
18:34
SPEAKER_05: And I went through the proper chains to make sure, you know, it was usable, and I did.
18:39
SPEAKER_05: But I mean, it there was a lot of bullshit behind it.
18:42
SPEAKER_05: Um like I was telling you off air, like, you know, it took a whole year to show people that it wasn't anywhere related to gangs, it wasn't, you know, anything to deal with any type of, you know, prison type of stuff, street type of stuff.
18:58
SPEAKER_05: It was just something that I knew that the city, you know, needed, you know, because I I was I would go to different places or when I go perform at different places, you know, you you see cool things, you know, like you go to Houston, they got Ace Town shirts, and you know, even the Astros create that stuff now.
19:18
SPEAKER_05: You go to San Antonio, you got you know, tone the tone-up shirts or two one oh, like and Corp to me, Corbis never really had that, you know.
19:26
SPEAKER_05: So I wanted to create something where it was just like kind of edgy streetwear type stuff, and just where it could be where it's like, oh man, that's fucking cool.
19:39
SPEAKER_05: I want to, you know, where's wear something like that, you know.
19:41
SPEAKER_05: So that's one that's one of the reasons why I wanted to do it, you know.
19:45
SPEAKER_01: So like so you said it took a it took a year, that's good by about, yeah.
19:49
SPEAKER_01: So and this was 2013.
19:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, how do you establish yourself within a year?
19:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, do you was you talking to people?
19:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, how how did it change?
19:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I couldn't.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
19:59
SPEAKER_05: I'll get I'll give you the the the short long story.
20:03
SPEAKER_05: Um I was I was in California uh on some on some music business stuff, but um one of my brothers he actually lives in Oakland, California.
20:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool.
20:16
SPEAKER_05: And uh we were actually we crossed the bridge to San Francisco, and um, if you've never been there, like Oakland and San Francisco is like here to Portland.
20:23
SPEAKER_05: Okay, you just cross the bridge and you're there, right?
20:25
SPEAKER_05: So um we're uh I don't know if it was in the mission mission district, but um my my brother's parking is cord, and I get off to make sure he's just because over there it's like you know, it's smarter to probably walk around because there's not a lot of parking over there.
20:42
SPEAKER_05: You just got it's kind of like being downtown, you just always got to park on the side of the street and stuff like that.
20:46
SPEAKER_05: So um, you know, he's parking.
20:48
SPEAKER_05: I get off um to make sure he can, you know, fit the space.
20:51
SPEAKER_05: And then right when I turn around, there's this um there's this cool like store.
20:58
SPEAKER_05: It's called Zero Friends.
20:59
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
21:00
SPEAKER_05: And um I see this dude like he's spray painting or something, right?
21:05
SPEAKER_05: Because the door is kind of open.
21:06
SPEAKER_05: So I'm just kind of like, man, I want to check this store out, you know.
21:09
SPEAKER_05: And um, so we walk in there, and they had like all these t-shirts, just like one t-shirt of like different designs on the wall.
21:17
SPEAKER_05: Uh, excuse me, and um that all these little um like paintings and stuff of like different characters, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, uh Freddie Cougar, and all stuff, but they look real cartoonish, and like the guy drew them as if they were like melting.
21:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was it was crazy.
21:37
SPEAKER_05: Well, I found out that this dude is like a big name.
21:40
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I guess I don't know over there or everywhere, but uh, I think his name is Alex Part Party or something like that.
21:46
SPEAKER_05: And um, so he he has this thing where he draws all these different like characters and shit like that.
21:51
SPEAKER_05: Well, anyway, so I seen this cool shirt and I was like, Man, I want to buy that shirt or whatever.
21:56
SPEAKER_05: And the only thing they had on the walls were like size small.
22:00
SPEAKER_05: So I was like, well shit, you know.
22:02
SPEAKER_05: And the guy goes, No, no, no, man.
22:04
SPEAKER_05: We got more shirts in the back.
22:06
SPEAKER_05: This is just so people don't steal our shit.
22:08
SPEAKER_05: And I was just like, damn, that's smart.
22:11
SPEAKER_05: You know, like, because if you try to steal something, there's only one side.
22:13
SPEAKER_05: You can't go nowhere with it.
22:15
SPEAKER_05: So um I was like, man, that's cool.
22:17
SPEAKER_05: So anyway, so I bought some stuff, whatever, and and um I actually got one of the little um art pieces off the wall.
22:24
SPEAKER_05: I got a leather face one.
22:26
SPEAKER_05: And um, so we're walking out of whatever, and I tell I turn to my brother and I'm like, you see that shit, man?
22:31
SPEAKER_05: That's what I want to fucking do.
22:32
SPEAKER_05: Nice, that's what we gotta do.
22:34
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
22:34
SPEAKER_05: And he's just like, You think so?
22:36
SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, fuck yeah, right.
22:38
SPEAKER_05: So we go to the we we you know finish our day shopping or whatever.
22:42
SPEAKER_05: So anyway, we go back to Oakland and we go back to his crib and we're sitting there drinking and shit, and then you know, he kind of brings it up and he's like, Man, what are you talking about earlier?
22:50
SPEAKER_05: You know, and I was like, Man, we gotta fucking do something.
22:52
SPEAKER_05: And wow, so right then and there, and and I had already been out there, I think, for like a week.
22:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I had to leave like the next day.
22:59
SPEAKER_05: Well, that whole night, man, we're just like kicking ideas and talking about it, whatever.
23:04
SPEAKER_05: And we actually started like throwing uh logos together.
23:09
SPEAKER_05: Wow, because my brother does kind of the same thing I do, it's just on a it's it's in a whole different world.
23:14
SPEAKER_05: Like he deals with more like real estate and um branding of like uh like other businesses rather than what I you know what I do with.
23:23
SPEAKER_05: But so we we go back and forth a lot on stuff, and um so we were sitting there on the couch, man, doing the logo and going like, oh, I think this, nah, this, oh, we need to move this, and going back and forth.
23:35
SPEAKER_05: And so then I come back, and it was really just like uh probably just oh sorry, uh like drunk talk or whatever, I guess.
23:44
SPEAKER_05: And uh and then we got back on the phone a couple days later, and we're just talking about it, whatever, and and you know, I was like, Yeah, we should just try it.
23:51
SPEAKER_05: And again, we're not thinking really nothing of it, right?
23:53
SPEAKER_05: Right.
23:54
SPEAKER_05: And then it gets into the ears of my other brother, and he's just like, Oh man, uh, you know, Jason said you want to do this, like, yeah, I think you're about it.
24:04
SPEAKER_05: And he's like, Well, man, you know, I'll match this and this is the and then my older brother was like, Well, we can do this, you know.
24:12
SPEAKER_05: So what people don't know is that when we started this whole thing, um, and we started to advertise, we made the Facebook page, and you know, once we once we um we we settled on the logo, which is this one here, yeah.
24:28
SPEAKER_05: Um we started mocking up all the t-shirts and the color things, whatever, and we made a fit Facebook page and we put all that information on there.
24:37
SPEAKER_05: I think like the within 24 hours we had already like 1,500 likes.
24:41
SPEAKER_05: Nice, but mind you, we didn't have nothing, we didn't have nothing.
24:44
SPEAKER_05: Wow, we just had we just had mock of pictures, yeah, we had ideas.
24:48
SPEAKER_05: So we did it as a teaser thing because we wanted to see if people were gonna like it or talk shit.
24:54
SPEAKER_05: Oh, nice.
24:54
SPEAKER_05: So that was kind of like right, because at that point you don't even know who's behind it yet.
24:58
SPEAKER_05: You just see like, oh, these crooked greasy shirts are so I think a lot of people were I know a lot of them were like, was this is this for real?
25:05
SPEAKER_05: Is this for real?
25:06
SPEAKER_05: Whatever.
25:06
SPEAKER_05: And uh we got into that, and then we were just like, shit, we really gotta start making these shirts now.
25:14
SPEAKER_05: So then um we started looking for people that to to like uh to do t-shirts and whatnot, or whatever.
25:23
SPEAKER_05: But the thing the the difference with us is that from the very beginning, my goal was to make sure that everything we made was a hundred percent quality.
25:37
SPEAKER_05: Nice meaning that the shirt, the hat, whatever you bought from us, yeah, is the same thing that you would get out of a Dillard's, a Zoomy's, a Macy's, a JCPenney's, an Academy.
25:51
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm not into selling anybody, no bullshit.
25:54
SPEAKER_05: My my my thing is that if whatever I do, whatever I create, whatever I put my money into, and whatever, and this is advice to anybody trying to get into any type of business.
26:06
SPEAKER_05: If you yourself would not buy that, how can you convince somebody else to buy that?
26:13
SPEAKER_05: Right?
26:13
SPEAKER_05: Like, think about it.
26:14
SPEAKER_05: Like it it only it it like bullshit can only go so far, right?
26:18
SPEAKER_05: Like, if something sucks, it just sucks.
26:20
SPEAKER_05: And there's no way you can convince a whole city or a world that, like, oh, it's the best thing, because obviously it's gonna get to a point where enough people are gonna be like, nah, this shit sucks, you know, and that's okay, but it's just the realization.
26:33
SPEAKER_05: But right, um, we just got to a point where that was our goal, and that is still our goal, you know.
26:40
SPEAKER_05: I mean, so everything we do, I make sure that it's a hundred percent quality.
26:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, you know.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: So this cup alone, bro.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: He gave me this cup, guys.
26:48
SPEAKER_01: Check it out.
26:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, tell Stanley to stay off my motherfucking grass, for real, bro.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: Look at this, dude.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: This is legit.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: Jay Bustos, thank you for sharing the video.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: He said, he said, I need that hat.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: Where could we buy the merch at?
27:02
SPEAKER_05: Oh man, crookedchristy tx.com, baby.
27:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
27:07
SPEAKER_05: And and you know, let me let me uh it's gonna sound weird because I must uh I want to apologize to all those because I know a lot of people hate to order something local from a local website because they feel like why can't I just get it from you?
27:23
SPEAKER_05: Or go into a store.
27:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I got you.
27:26
SPEAKER_05: So this is the thing.
27:28
SPEAKER_05: Let me explain this to everybody, all right?
27:30
SPEAKER_05: And I'm gonna make this very comical to everybody.
27:34
SPEAKER_05: Shit is expensive out here, okay?
27:37
SPEAKER_05: Rent or brick and mortar is fucking expensive, okay.
27:41
SPEAKER_05: I don't know how a lot of these motherfuckers out here do it, but I know and so you know, I don't have investors, okay?
27:49
SPEAKER_05: I don't have somebody writing me a check, I don't have yeah partners and certain things that deal with other certain stuff where I'm just you know, money's pumping.
27:57
SPEAKER_05: It's not like that.
27:59
SPEAKER_05: So it's very hard to sustain certain things before I even get into it to know like that's not worth it, right?
28:07
SPEAKER_05: So the good thing about our brand is that we built the whole thing just from doing pop-up shops.
28:14
SPEAKER_05: Our first pop-up shop was actually Day of the Dead.
28:17
SPEAKER_05: Oh wow, yeah.
28:18
SPEAKER_05: And who's ever whoever is a part of that, please let me know why you don't let us be a part of it anymore.
28:24
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
28:25
SPEAKER_05: So um, yeah, that was that was our first thing.
28:28
SPEAKER_05: Um, I think we I think we sold out that day too.
28:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
28:34
SPEAKER_05: Um, but yeah, it's you know, there was a time I was looking into making an actual store or renting the space out and stuff, but the price is just crazy, man.
28:44
SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna spend, you know, and this, you know, I'm gonna tell you the truth.
28:48
SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna spend five, six thousand dollars a month.
28:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't have confidence in my brand or nothing.
28:56
SPEAKER_05: It's I'm just smart.
28:57
SPEAKER_05: Like I'm not I'm not doing this shit as a um, you know, pat me on the back that I opened up a store and all the shit.
29:03
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, um I to me I'm I think what I'm gonna do is just give people um because there is a lot of people they want to buy it from me, which is kind of you know like do like directly like they want to buy it from me, they want to know that they bought it from Playboy, you know what I mean?
29:20
SPEAKER_05: Like, oh I got my shit from Playboy, you know.
29:22
SPEAKER_05: Um so I think what I'm gonna do is just basically have a permanent uh a permanent shop for uh the weekend in the Corpus Christi Trade Center where people can just come and get it physically if they wanted to, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
29:37
SPEAKER_05: You know, but other than that, you know, it's just you know, you order it and it gets shipped out the next day.
29:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, so yeah, definitely.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Chao Chia on Facebook.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for watching.
29:46
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for watching.
29:46
SPEAKER_05: But crookedchristie tx.com, man.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: Whatever you can get on the yeah, definitely.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, crookedchristy text.com.
29:53
SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
29:53
SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, man.
29:54
SPEAKER_05: We got a lot of cool shit on there.
29:55
SPEAKER_05: Everything from hats, yeah, uh women's chains.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: Y'all got a huge following too.
29:59
SPEAKER_05: Crop charms, uh, socks.
30:03
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if they can see my socks, but yeah, I got my socks on.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, was it the sandals?
30:07
SPEAKER_01: We got uh the slide.
30:09
SPEAKER_05: Slide, there you go.
30:10
SPEAKER_05: God, what else do we have?
30:12
SPEAKER_05: All our hats now.
30:13
SPEAKER_05: Uh we got two more dropping.
30:15
SPEAKER_05: Um, I think I want to put them out next week.
30:18
SPEAKER_05: One of them is the colorway of the astros, the other one's the colorway of the hooks.
30:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:22
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
30:22
SPEAKER_05: So I would love to do something with the hooks, man.
30:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:25
SPEAKER_05: That's cool, man.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: Dude, yeah, yeah.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: I could see that.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: I could see that.
30:28
SPEAKER_05: I think that'd be badass, to be honest.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: You kidding?
30:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Crooked Christie hooks for one night.
30:33
SPEAKER_05: Oh, brother.
30:35
SPEAKER_05: I know this fucking CD was shit through pants.
30:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bro, dude.
30:39
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
30:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: I like your hat too.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: It's got the Texas flag on it.
30:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
30:43
SPEAKER_05: So this so um our first hats, if if anybody's ever bought one from us, our very, very first versions.
30:49
SPEAKER_05: We had um, we were going with um, I don't know if you're familiar with Zephyr.
30:55
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
30:55
SPEAKER_05: So Zephyr used to be like what New Era used to be now, okay.
30:58
SPEAKER_05: At a certain point.
30:59
SPEAKER_05: So they were doing all our hats at the beginning, um, but then it just it became kind of funny with certain stuff, and then and I couldn't really do a lot that I wanted to do.
31:14
SPEAKER_05: So um at one point I said, Man, fuck this shit, man.
31:17
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna go straight to the source, and nice.
31:20
SPEAKER_05: And then now I just deal with nothing but real manufacturers.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: Man, that's cool.
31:23
SPEAKER_05: So every so all our hats, I want everybody to know that when you buy a hat from us, just know that you were buying the same quality as a new era, but you know, I'm not buying new errors and putting my logo on them.
31:35
SPEAKER_05: Like all our hats are completely made from scratch.
31:38
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
31:39
SPEAKER_05: Like if they follow us, they'll see like the the production of it being put together and stuff like that.
31:44
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, it took a lot to get to that point.
31:46
SPEAKER_05: But I I'm just I'm super proud of what we have now.
31:50
SPEAKER_05: Um it it just makes me, you know, love it even more every time I do something new with it.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that's awesome, man.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm happy for you.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: That's very awesome.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate it.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh so when I started mine, the barrier to entry was like cheap for me.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: And I I make my stuff by myself, and it's not like at all the quality yours is.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: So I was just like, I'm just gonna do it like this at first, you know, and see how it goes.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: And then just you know, go from there.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
32:17
SPEAKER_01: Like you're I'm like that too, as far as money goes.
32:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm not I do what I can if I can't get a store.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: Like, I know I feel you on that.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, I used to work, bro.
32:26
SPEAKER_05: So I I used to rec I used to work retail.
32:29
SPEAKER_05: Um, that's how I've got yeah, that's why I know a lot of this stuff because I mean, at 15, 16 years old, I mean, I was selling shit over the telephone.
32:39
SPEAKER_05: I used to work at some place down here called Sytelle.
32:42
SPEAKER_05: People my age will know what Sytelle used to be.
32:44
SPEAKER_05: Side, yeah.
32:45
SPEAKER_05: I don't remember that.
32:46
SPEAKER_05: It used to be like a telemarketing place.
32:48
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if it's still there.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is it on the website?
32:50
SPEAKER_05: No, that was uh oh god.
32:54
SPEAKER_05: I want to say APAC.
32:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:56
SPEAKER_05: No, I did Side Tell.
32:57
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
32:57
SPEAKER_05: Side gang for everybody that knows that.
32:59
SPEAKER_05: Um but I used to work for them when I was like 16, man.
33:02
SPEAKER_05: Like that's when like I guess like when the internet came out.
33:05
SPEAKER_05: I remember we used to sell like Yahoo Internet and all shit.
33:08
SPEAKER_05: And then um I went from that and then I worked at Mervin's.
33:12
SPEAKER_05: I used to work in the shoe department at Mervin's.
33:16
SPEAKER_05: And then I worked at this hip-hop store called Blaze.
33:20
SPEAKER_05: Um that's they sold like baby fat, yums, all different types of stuff.
33:25
SPEAKER_05: And um then I actually worked at Dillard's in the shoe department, and I I you know, and then I learned a lot of stuff from my mom because that's all my mom knew too, was retail.
33:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but um, I was a real huge fan of like Tommy Hill figure.
33:39
SPEAKER_05: Um, I used to be like a walking fucking you know advertiser for that pretty much.
33:45
SPEAKER_05: But um, but no, it was just, you know, I like those things.
33:49
SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, and me being a real hip-hop head, like, you know, when Jay-Z meet Rock Aware and Outcast had their clothing and stuff.
33:55
SPEAKER_05: I used to look at ourselves and I was just like, man, that shit's so tight, you know.
33:59
SPEAKER_05: But and I was a consumer of it, you know, and I bought it because it was it was really the quality was good, you know, the designs were nice.
34:07
SPEAKER_05: And um, so with doing all this, it's kind of like I'm I'm doing a lot of the stuff that I know what a lot of big brands do.
34:16
SPEAKER_05: You know, it's just um if I wanted to, I mean, I could just get a hold of some of the buyers in um in the mall, like zoomies and and probably lids and stuff like that, and you know, see how I can go about it just having the brand in there.
34:31
SPEAKER_05: The only thing is it all comes down to numbers, like how much are they gonna take away from me from what I'm actually making and things like that.
34:38
SPEAKER_05: So again, somebody else would be like, oh, but it's in lids, and it's like, yeah, but how much money are you really profiting from that?
34:46
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
34:47
SPEAKER_05: So it's like, do I take the short end of the stick just to say like I have my hand lids, or do I do the smart thing and just go do over here and just pop up my shit up again, you know?
34:57
SPEAKER_05: So it's damn it, it's trust me, man.
34:59
SPEAKER_05: If if I really wanted to be that arrogant, I would have done a lot of different shit just to say, like, oh, I got my shit in this and that, you know.
35:08
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, you know, I I I I try to move smart because at the end of the day, when you're when you're dealing with money, yeah, it's you know, it can run out pretty quick, you know what I mean?
35:17
SPEAKER_05: So you gotta be smart of what you're doing and how you do it.
35:19
SPEAKER_05: And you know, if I'm just here trying to do brag and write shit, I'll go broke.
35:24
SPEAKER_05: Anybody that's doing that will go broke, yeah.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, so it's almost like if you start out with a little bit of money, and then once you start getting money, you're like, damn, I need to be responsible with it.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, of course.
35:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, and this is not because it's not about me.
35:37
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
35:38
SPEAKER_05: It's not about you know, Mr.
35:40
SPEAKER_05: Playboy the rapper.
35:41
SPEAKER_05: I created this as its own thing, yeah.
35:44
SPEAKER_05: There was a time where like I wouldn't even, you know, show my face.
35:50
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
35:51
SPEAKER_05: Like I wouldn't, you know, because I didn't want people for somebody because you know, some people can feel a certain way because you're doing more than what they feel they're you know they should be doing or whatever.
36:02
SPEAKER_05: And I didn't want people to like hate this because they feel some way towards me.
36:08
SPEAKER_05: Because this doesn't this is not connected to my music, it's connected to me because yes, you know, you know, um I put it together, yeah, you know, certainly.
36:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
36:21
SPEAKER_05: And you know, but at the end of the day, like this shouldn't be, you know, looked down upon because something somebody has some way feeling a certain way towards me.
36:32
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Do you get that?
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Do you get that a lot in from people in the city or just in general?
36:36
SPEAKER_01: Like people.
36:37
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I've gotten it.
36:38
SPEAKER_05: Don't get me wrong.
36:39
SPEAKER_05: I get shade thrown on me all the time in all different ways.
36:41
SPEAKER_05: And I I used to deal with it probably way more, you know, coming up.
36:45
SPEAKER_05: I I mean now, I mean, people know what my attitude is.
36:48
SPEAKER_05: I don't give a fuck what anybody has to say.
36:49
SPEAKER_05: I don't give a fuck, you know, how you feel about me or whatever.
36:52
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know what I mean?
36:52
SPEAKER_05: Because my thing, it's like, you know, what I what I eat, man, don't make nobody shit.
36:59
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
37:00
SPEAKER_05: So it's like, and that's the way I look at it.
37:02
SPEAKER_05: Like, if you're doing something over there and I'm doing something over here, as long as what you're doing over there doesn't affect the money in my pocket and the shit that I'm doing, I don't give a fuck.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, so how do you feel?
37:11
SPEAKER_01: Like, so I have a small brand, right?
37:13
SPEAKER_01: That's big as you.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: How do you feel about me having one?
37:16
SPEAKER_01: And I guess kind of I hate it.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, like it's like I want to bring this up because people watching, I want them to know, like, hey, there's two people here trying to make money, you know what I mean?
37:25
SPEAKER_01: That's how I see it.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean I haven't even said that before.
37:28
SPEAKER_05: No, no, it's you know, I I don't because in in and I think I've told Dusty this before too.
37:35
SPEAKER_05: You know, there was a certain point that everybody thought I made the corpus hat.
37:39
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
37:40
SPEAKER_05: And it got to a point where I just kind of was just like, look, we don't make that hat.
37:45
SPEAKER_05: That's not us.
37:46
SPEAKER_05: Actually, and you know, and again, I hate to say it, but crooked was here before you know, a lot of people shit.
37:53
SPEAKER_05: You know, but what I don't like and what I don't will never respect is when people try to make it seem like this never existed or this started after a lot of people shit, you know what I mean?
38:08
SPEAKER_05: So, but do I have a problem with people selling clothes and all of something?
38:12
SPEAKER_05: I don't care.
38:12
SPEAKER_05: Like, I have my own thing and I do it my own way, and you know, I just try to make sure again that what I sell to people, people are never gonna have a bad review on it.
38:26
SPEAKER_05: People are gonna see the quality, they're gonna see you know all the hard work that goes into that.
38:31
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
38:32
SPEAKER_05: Just like this cup, you know what I mean.
38:34
SPEAKER_05: I actually did it as a joke because everybody was like, oh, Stanley this and Stanley that, and I said, you know what?
38:40
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna show people that what you're raving about is just plastic and stainless steel.
38:47
SPEAKER_05: Okay, and when you're going and trying to spend, you know, whatever, it's like I'm gonna show you because some people will say, Well, this is better than this cup, and it's like, bro, it's made out of the same shit.
38:57
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
38:58
SPEAKER_05: Like, come on now.
39:00
SPEAKER_05: So I made it as a joke, and then one day I was like, you know what?
39:04
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna make a fucking cup, you know, but I'm gonna make it badass, you know.
39:09
SPEAKER_05: But it's you know, it's you know, not to give you a cheap plug, but it's a 40-ounce, what we call a 40-ounce sipper, you know.
39:16
SPEAKER_05: It's they come in different colors, it actually has the branding on the top.
39:19
SPEAKER_05: You can twist the little thing, you know, to where you could just sip out of it if you want to, and it's it is it definitely made nice, dude.
39:26
SPEAKER_01: I like this little thing on top.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
39:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but but see, but look, you know, all this look at all the detail in this cup, yeah.
39:36
SPEAKER_05: You know, look at the bottom.
39:37
SPEAKER_05: Some people won't even pay attention to the bottom.
39:39
SPEAKER_05: Seriously, bro.
39:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like you know, this is what I'm saying, man.
39:42
SPEAKER_05: It's all about quality, you know.
39:45
SPEAKER_05: Wow, dude.
39:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, see, it's not just dude.
39:48
SPEAKER_05: That's what's up.
39:49
SPEAKER_05: See, somebody would be like, oh, he just put his logo on the front of a cup, exactly.
39:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:54
SPEAKER_05: That's the kind of stuff that I'll be like, all right.
39:56
SPEAKER_05: But then, that's what I'm saying, man.
39:58
SPEAKER_05: Hell no.
39:59
SPEAKER_05: It's it's this is real deal holy field right here.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: Do not microwave, do not microwave.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's even got the website on the bottom, of course.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, look at that.
40:06
SPEAKER_05: You want to know why?
40:07
SPEAKER_05: Let me tell you why.
40:09
SPEAKER_05: Let me let me tell you why.
40:10
SPEAKER_05: You you you notice that, right?
40:12
SPEAKER_05: Let me tell you why.
40:13
SPEAKER_05: Because if we were if we were just chilling somewhere, right?
40:16
SPEAKER_05: And I had this cup, right?
40:18
SPEAKER_05: Like, like the homie in the chat is like, oh, where can we get your stuff, right?
40:21
SPEAKER_05: So I'm chilling like this, like seminar, and you're just like, damn man, where'd you get that cup?
40:25
SPEAKER_05: And like, oh, crooked crazy case.com is like right here.
40:30
SPEAKER_05: That's a jewel for young people out there.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: You're full of them, brother.
40:35
SPEAKER_01: For real, before you came in, I was like asking you about the the trademark and all that stuff.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: I was like, damn, I don't know I can get to everybody's gonna do it.
40:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, come on, brother.
40:44
SPEAKER_05: Like walking, yeah, walking platforms.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: You were uh in front in the serial aisle.
40:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, with my jacket on, you know, I know the HTO, you know, it's just yeah.
40:55
SPEAKER_05: Hey, I mean, who's that sure dude?
40:56
SPEAKER_05: That sure looks nice.
40:57
SPEAKER_05: Who's who's you know, this is something that's coming out pretty soon.
41:00
SPEAKER_05: This is actually just uh um embroidered too, a prototype prototype, you know what I mean?
41:05
SPEAKER_05: That's what I call it.
41:06
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, it has a 13 on the back.
41:08
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if somebody could see it from the back, but um has a 13 on the back, and um, but yeah, man, there's certain things that I'll just make, I'll have the manufacturer create it for me, and then I just review it and see if, like, uh, I don't really like it, you know.
41:22
SPEAKER_05: I get ideas, yeah, and I just try to execute them, and that's where I just kind of look at things.
41:28
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, I don't know if people will like that, you know.
41:31
SPEAKER_05: Because again, it's not about me.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: How do you test it?
41:32
SPEAKER_01: How do you go about testing them out?
41:34
SPEAKER_01: Like testing your your ideas.
41:35
SPEAKER_01: Do you like put a drop?
41:36
SPEAKER_01: Do you do a drop?
41:37
SPEAKER_01: No?
41:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
41:38
SPEAKER_05: No, no, like let's just say, um, like let's just say this, right?
41:42
SPEAKER_05: So I've only worn one of these one time, I believe, when I performed at one show.
41:51
SPEAKER_05: So again, it's like, let's just say you have a hundred people like, oh my god, I want one of those.
41:56
SPEAKER_05: I need that, I need it in red or whatever.
41:58
SPEAKER_05: See, I take that information.
42:00
SPEAKER_05: Amongst if I go to Whataburger and I'm standing in line, so he goes, Hey bro, where'd you get that shirt from?
42:04
SPEAKER_05: You know, like the other day I was at um this taco place.
42:09
SPEAKER_05: Um, I was at this taco place and I had my hat backwards.
42:13
SPEAKER_05: And when I got up, the dude was like, Hey man, uh damn, I love your hat, bro.
42:18
SPEAKER_05: Like, where can I get it?
42:19
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, Oh, I I don't think he even believed me.
42:22
SPEAKER_05: Because when I told him, I was like, Oh, you can get it on my on my store, you know, Chrissy T X.
42:26
SPEAKER_05: And he kind of looked at me like, What?
42:27
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm like, Yeah, bro, it's a real brand.
42:30
SPEAKER_05: So it's there's still a lot of people that you know probably have never heard about it.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so no, definitely, man, dude, that's awesome.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: That's good stuff there.
42:37
SPEAKER_01: So, crook, so you got the brand going, and so you didn't you designed yourself.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: I found that out too.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: I didn't know.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: Like you're a designer for and you even got, dude, you got a gold record from a design on was it King?
42:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh, what's the guy's name?
42:50
SPEAKER_01: B King.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: B King.
42:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and that he called you, like, hey, I got this Gwen Gold, you're gonna get a plaque too.
42:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:57
SPEAKER_05: So uh, so shout out to my boy B King, um, straight out of the Houston.
43:02
SPEAKER_05: Um, yeah, so that so that thing came about uh I think BK called me about four in the morning.
43:10
SPEAKER_05: And um he was just like, hey man, I uh I'm about to get signed to Columbia Records.
43:15
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
43:16
SPEAKER_05: Um he had just put a project up and he was telling me that they were gonna pull it down, but they were gonna run with this one song that's on there called Then Leave.
43:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:24
SPEAKER_05: And um he goes, you know, I I need you to do this uh artwork for me for this song, whatever.
43:30
SPEAKER_05: And I said, Alright, cool.
43:32
SPEAKER_05: And um he goes, Man, just go listen to that song, just like you know, do your thing on it.
43:36
SPEAKER_05: So I was like, Alright.
43:37
SPEAKER_05: So I go and I'm just playing that song over and over and over in my headphones, and then I caught I got the concept and I was like, all right, cool.
43:43
SPEAKER_05: I put the thing together, you know, very quickly.
43:47
SPEAKER_05: Sent it back.
43:47
SPEAKER_05: He reviewed it.
43:48
SPEAKER_05: He goes, All right, man, this is what I'm gonna run with.
43:51
SPEAKER_05: And the song blew up on TikTok.
43:55
SPEAKER_05: Next thing I know, he was like, Hey man, that shit already went gold.
43:57
SPEAKER_05: And yeah, I'm like, all right, so hopefully I get a platform.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: It's got like 66 million on Spotify.
44:03
SPEAKER_05: I went to go listen to the get the head, get that bridge to leave.
44:07
SPEAKER_05: Peace out.
44:10
SPEAKER_05: That's dope.
44:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
44:11
SPEAKER_05: So that's why I always make that joke.
44:12
SPEAKER_05: Like, I gotta go plaque.
44:14
SPEAKER_05: I ain't had the bus one rap.
44:15
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
44:16
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know.
44:17
SPEAKER_05: Hey, name another.
44:20
SPEAKER_05: Name another.
44:21
SPEAKER_05: Name another.
44:22
SPEAKER_05: Name another.
44:22
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
44:23
SPEAKER_05: So, but you know what's so crazy?
44:26
SPEAKER_05: Um, on the same wall, I have when I put out my first album when I was 20, Called Out the Smoke, I made my rendition of a like a something like a thing like that.
44:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, of your like your CD, it got my poster in it, and I made it look like a plaque.
44:42
SPEAKER_05: Nice.
44:43
SPEAKER_05: And it's just so funny that now I actually have one with my name on it.
44:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's cool.
44:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
44:48
SPEAKER_01: And you were saying like uh like the guys would never have this opportunity, you know what I mean?
44:53
SPEAKER_01: And then even even being on Hot 97, that was man, I heard that whole rap.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: Damn, you were friggin' yeah, you were at it, bro.
45:00
SPEAKER_05: I got a lot of hate from that too.
45:01
SPEAKER_05: Seriously?
45:03
SPEAKER_01: From just like from people in this, like from oh yeah, city, mm-hmm.
45:07
SPEAKER_05: A lot of the other local rappers.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: God, I can't stand that, bro.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't understand that.
45:12
SPEAKER_05: And then like Don't never admit it, but I seen it with my own eyes.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Right.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: And then you were mentioning too that these guys will even pay to be on a bill or whatever.
45:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, everybody pays.
45:21
SPEAKER_05: Everybody pays.
45:22
SPEAKER_05: You see that?
45:23
SPEAKER_05: Everybody pays.
45:23
SPEAKER_05: I don't I you know what I'll tell you.
45:26
SPEAKER_05: Everybody pays.
45:27
SPEAKER_05: All these shows that happen, the the the 20 artists that you see open up, like say, what are these rap shows that happen?
45:35
SPEAKER_05: There's 20 artists before the main person comes.
45:38
SPEAKER_05: All those people paid.
45:40
SPEAKER_05: Pay to play.
45:41
SPEAKER_05: Of course.
45:42
SPEAKER_05: That's what it is.
45:44
SPEAKER_05: Honestly, man, at this point, like I don't give a fuck how anybody feels about it.
45:47
SPEAKER_05: It's just it's what it is.
45:49
SPEAKER_05: There is no more whether you're good or not.
45:52
SPEAKER_05: It's just you just you just pay.
45:54
SPEAKER_05: You know?
45:55
SPEAKER_05: Money talk.
45:56
SPEAKER_05: Of course.
45:57
SPEAKER_05: Think about think about it like this, man.
46:00
SPEAKER_05: Anybody that knows me, I could wrap my ass off.
46:03
SPEAKER_05: There's not a lot of people that could fuck with me.
46:06
SPEAKER_05: Right.
46:07
SPEAKER_05: But do you think that really matters if somebody else comes next to me and says, you know what, man, uh, here's a thousand dollars.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Boop.
46:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh you get that?
46:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so it's not about talent anymore.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
46:19
SPEAKER_05: It's about what you can just really do for the next person.
46:22
SPEAKER_05: That's there's gatekeepers, there's all that shit, bro.
46:25
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
46:26
SPEAKER_05: You know, you just if you're not in it, you don't see it.
46:30
SPEAKER_05: But I'm here to tell you that that's just real.
46:33
SPEAKER_05: When people, when people talk about the Illuminati and all that different shit and the big, the big shit, yeah, yeah.
46:38
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that shit's real, bro.
46:39
SPEAKER_05: Whatever.
46:40
SPEAKER_05: This shit's real.
46:41
SPEAKER_05: I mean, you know, whether it's it's you want to call it the Illuminati or call it this or call it that, all that gatekeeping shit, all that bias shit, all that little circles of this and that.
46:51
SPEAKER_05: Like, if you're any part of this circle, do you trust me?
46:54
SPEAKER_05: So gay pe gate, I'm trying to figure out what gatekeeping is that's gatekeeper is is just like if you know you you got you got something going on and you're trying to, you know, elevate yourself, right?
47:07
SPEAKER_05: But you can never elevate yourself because those people they don't let you in.
47:12
SPEAKER_05: Oh think about that.
47:13
SPEAKER_05: They let who they want to, of course.
47:16
SPEAKER_05: Of course.
47:17
SPEAKER_05: Why do you why do you think when you see a lot of things in the city, you always kind of see the same people and the same little things?
47:25
SPEAKER_05: Crazy.
47:25
SPEAKER_05: And gatekeeping.
47:27
SPEAKER_05: I don't give a fuck what anybody's saying.
47:28
SPEAKER_05: They can hate me for it at the end of this interview.
47:30
SPEAKER_05: I don't give a fuck.
47:31
SPEAKER_05: Like, that's one thing about me, I don't care.
47:33
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'll tell them like it's gatekeeping, you know?
47:36
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, it's one thing, like, you know, the the game is to be sold not told, but at the same time, it's just you know, that's why a lot of things just don't move the way it does, because it's just gatekeeping, bro.
47:47
SPEAKER_05: It's a lot of kiss ads, it's a lot of you know, pay pay your way.
47:50
SPEAKER_05: All this, I mean, I've done it, you know.
47:52
SPEAKER_05: I've paid it beyond shows, you know.
47:54
SPEAKER_05: A lot of shows, you know, that I feel that I should have got paid for, I did it, you know, for free, or you know, I paid this or that.
48:01
SPEAKER_05: I mean, people look people in this whole rap game, it's smoke and mirrors.
48:08
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
48:10
SPEAKER_05: And when a lot of these dudes out here, and even females, like when they see what the game is really about, you start to kind of like, do you really want to be a part of this shit?
48:21
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
48:22
SPEAKER_05: So it's it's an ugly thing, man.
48:24
SPEAKER_05: It gets to a point where it's you know, everybody can, and and a and a lot of different stuff that happens, people can talk about that whole like you know, corpus needs to come together and unity.
48:35
SPEAKER_05: And if we all like, bro, that's a all that shit is a crock of shit, bro.
48:39
SPEAKER_05: It is, it's it's just I don't care.
48:42
SPEAKER_05: Nobody can convince me that that, like, yeah, everybody has their groups and everybody has little circles, and everybody, you know, whatever, whatever.
48:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, all that it's fake support.
48:54
SPEAKER_05: It's I want to support him because I'm trying to find an opportunity within that, you know what I mean?
49:00
SPEAKER_01: But so what so you're saying all this stuff, which man, it's so if somebody doesn't know you, why should they listen to what you're saying right now?
49:08
SPEAKER_05: Like right now, yeah.
49:10
SPEAKER_05: But it's not sugarcoated.
49:13
SPEAKER_05: It's really in front, it's really I mean, it's really it's really in front of people's eyes.
49:19
SPEAKER_05: And and that's just that's just me being like straight up.
49:22
SPEAKER_05: It's really it, dude.
49:23
SPEAKER_05: This is not just the music.
49:24
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
49:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you can work at fucking Walmart and okay.
49:29
SPEAKER_05: Well, think about it, yeah, right?
49:30
SPEAKER_05: Think about how that you gotta get you gotta know somebody to get into something.
49:35
SPEAKER_05: What is that?
49:35
SPEAKER_05: You know what that's called?
49:36
SPEAKER_05: Well, they don't like you to cast you out.
49:38
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so what is that called?
49:40
SPEAKER_05: Gatekeeping, yeah.
49:43
SPEAKER_05: That's all it is, bro.
49:44
SPEAKER_05: It and it and it it happens in everything, you know.
49:47
SPEAKER_05: If somebody knows me, oh man, we're gonna let him in.
49:50
SPEAKER_05: You know, it just it's just the way the world works.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's great.
49:53
SPEAKER_05: You just have to find your way of getting, you know, maneuvering into things, you know.
49:58
SPEAKER_05: But it happens in everything, man.
50:00
SPEAKER_05: It's just in my world of music and things like this, and this whole you know, circle of hip hop and rap and all this shit, and it it's just the way it is, you know.
50:10
SPEAKER_05: It's always been like that.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: That sucks too, man.
50:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh, somebody said no, no diddy later.
50:17
SPEAKER_05: I definitely don't want to be a part of the none of them parties.
50:19
SPEAKER_05: Dude, that thing's dirty, though.
50:21
SPEAKER_05: I don't want to be a part of none of those parties.
50:22
SPEAKER_05: That's crazy.
50:23
SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, you're funny though.
50:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
50:29
SPEAKER_05: All kinds of stuff is surfacing and but okay, but let okay.
50:33
SPEAKER_05: It's funny that somebody commented that and and you saying that about stuff coming out because that stuff is barely coming out, but how long has it actually been happening?
50:45
SPEAKER_03: Right.
50:46
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
50:47
SPEAKER_05: So you think about stuff like that.
50:49
SPEAKER_05: It's it's you know, people will try to make jokes.
50:52
SPEAKER_05: I mean, we can make jokes about this all day, right?
50:54
SPEAKER_05: But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, again, man, we've seen Diddy send a group of people for cheesecake on, you know, making the band, you know what I mean?
51:05
SPEAKER_05: To to you know, earn their way to do certain shit.
51:08
SPEAKER_05: So it's like it just happens, man.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: So who would have thought Diddy was a hotel?
51:15
SPEAKER_01: Somebody mentioned on Facebook.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: No comment on that.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no comment, dude.
51:19
SPEAKER_01: So you mentioning that, it's been around probably for years, probably mankind, you know what I mean.
51:24
SPEAKER_05: How do you think that look at Nickelodeon?
51:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, yeah.
51:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
51:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, me and Maya were talking about that day.
51:32
SPEAKER_05: You think they make Netflix specials off of like just you know, assumptions?
51:37
SPEAKER_05: No, bro.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, I was hearing uh, I don't know if you listen to Kenneth Owens, but she was mentioning that the I don't really deal with politics.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay, she was mentioning that like the government had a fund for for movies.
51:49
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah, but you know, they um they kind of lead the way the movie needs to be, whatever.
51:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they let me look this is the way I look at the world.
52:02
SPEAKER_05: We've all have been taught to see things a certain way, especially as Hispanic people.
52:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right?
52:11
SPEAKER_05: You grow up, and what is the first thing to believe in God and you know everything and the world was made and Adam and Eve and everything like that.
52:20
SPEAKER_05: Right.
52:20
SPEAKER_05: We're all taught that.
52:21
SPEAKER_05: We're all taught to see certain things a certain way in any culture, but at the end of the day, bro, we're all just going off words.
52:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
52:29
SPEAKER_05: And we're all just going off, you know, we all have we we we all believe in things a certain way, right?
52:36
SPEAKER_05: But at the end of the day, that's what it is.
52:39
SPEAKER_05: We're going off what we've actually never seen before, we've never actually heard it.
52:45
SPEAKER_05: We're just going off something that was written and what people found here and there and piecing it together or whatever.
52:51
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, it's just like Cat Williams the other day, you know, he's talking about the pyramids, you know.
52:55
SPEAKER_05: Do you obviously think those were made by man?
52:57
SPEAKER_05: I don't think so.
52:58
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
52:59
SPEAKER_05: I mean, think about it.
53:00
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, that shit is made out of stone, you know how heavy that is, you know, and and to be in a world where there's no cranes and all this shit to like come on, man.
53:08
SPEAKER_05: So it's it's you know, like I believe in aliens.
53:12
SPEAKER_05: I do believe that there is a whole other thing out here, but you know, it's because it's just very hard to believe that we're the only people living.
53:22
SPEAKER_05: But again, it's it's you know, it's kind of like if you want to hide things from people, you put it in a book.
53:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, nobody's gonna read it.
53:32
SPEAKER_05: Nobody's gonna read it.
53:33
unknown: Damn.
53:34
SPEAKER_05: See, the lie is always more entertaining than the truth.
53:40
SPEAKER_05: Think about that.
53:43
SPEAKER_05: Think about that, right?
53:44
SPEAKER_05: It's more flashy, of course.
53:47
SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's nobody really talks about the truth.
53:50
SPEAKER_05: Everybody talks about the lie.
53:51
SPEAKER_05: If I said, Oh, I'm a million, I'm a millionaire, and blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
53:55
SPEAKER_05: And people heard that, they'd be like, Man, that dude's not a millionaire, and then all this shit, and it'll it'll just rant on, ran on, right?
54:02
SPEAKER_05: And because the lie is more entertaining than the truth.
54:07
SPEAKER_05: Nobody cares about the truth.
54:08
SPEAKER_05: Social media is based off lies.
54:12
SPEAKER_05: Right?
54:12
SPEAKER_05: Like, most of it is just, you know, I don't even really want to get I'll get into it if you want to, but it's just, you know, it's how does it messes with uh society like all social media?
54:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, social media.
54:25
SPEAKER_05: Brocial media gave people it gave certain people that never had a voice that they felt was being heard a voice.
54:40
SPEAKER_05: Oh if you think about it.
54:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
54:42
SPEAKER_05: Think about all that right?
54:44
SPEAKER_05: You can put whatever on social media and like just people here, you know?
54:48
SPEAKER_05: Whether people know me or not, they can comment whatever they want to comment.
54:53
SPEAKER_05: Right?
54:54
SPEAKER_01: And they can comment a lie and people will be all right.
54:56
SPEAKER_05: People can comment a lie, they can comment the truth, I can say, hey, whatever, oh whatever, you know.
55:00
SPEAKER_05: So it's you know, social media is a very I mean it's hurt people, it's made people, you know, try to take their own life or probably have taken their own life, you know.
55:12
SPEAKER_05: It's social media is a very it's a it's a it's a fucked up playground, you know, and whether is whether it is truth or lying, it's up there forever to a certain point, you know.
55:24
SPEAKER_05: So you you you just gotta that's why me man, I live a very private life.
55:30
SPEAKER_05: I don't really ever share my kids on social media, and I don't talk about them to a certain extent.
55:36
SPEAKER_05: Um, I don't glorify a lot of stuff that I just do in my regular day-to-day.
55:42
SPEAKER_05: You if you follow me, all you're getting is fucking me cracking a joke, uh, me promoting, you know, uh the new ventures, the clothing, the music, and just sharing, you know, whatever I might share.
55:57
SPEAKER_05: But personal wise, things of relationships and just all different shit, you ain't never gonna get that shit from me.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: Wow, crazy.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: It's almost like using it for business.
56:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's just kind of like a storefront.
56:10
SPEAKER_05: The way no, it's just it's for me, I've always looked at it.
56:16
SPEAKER_05: Social media is is a is a is that crack in the door when your door is not fully closed.
56:23
SPEAKER_05: So if you look from a distance, you can still kind of see through it.
56:26
SPEAKER_05: To me, that's what social media is.
56:27
SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
56:28
SPEAKER_05: Like somebody's waiting for somebody to break up.
56:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, crazy.
56:34
SPEAKER_05: Right?
56:35
SPEAKER_05: Like you always see a woman talk about that, or you'll see a dude talk about that, right?
56:40
SPEAKER_05: Like, oh, I just broke up with my man or my girl, like oh man, 40 dudes or women are in the inbox already, right?
56:47
SPEAKER_05: Because they're they're just on the sidelines, right?
56:49
SPEAKER_05: Watching, right?
56:49
SPEAKER_05: So wait, yeah, they're just waiting for their for their day, for their day to play.
56:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they're lurking.
56:54
SPEAKER_05: But everybody, man, is just some people just live a boring life and have nothing better else to do but to watch others, and that's what social media is to a certain point.
57:05
SPEAKER_05: So that's why I just you know I don't fall into the bullshit.
57:08
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I'll crack jokes with the best of them, but for me to really like put my personal life on there and stuff like that, nah, I don't do none of that shit.
57:16
SPEAKER_01: That's probably a good thing, man.
57:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
57:19
SPEAKER_01: Damn, can I think for coming on?
57:20
SPEAKER_01: We've been going for an hour, man.
57:21
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome, dude.
57:24
SPEAKER_01: And I had all this stuff we haven't even touched on, which we got we got a bunch of stuff going on.
57:28
SPEAKER_01: Stay tuned for part two part 10.
57:31
SPEAKER_05: Part 10 coming.
57:33
SPEAKER_05: Oh man, that's funny.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh Tony uh Carillo said social media is a big playground to me.
57:38
SPEAKER_05: It is, it's a shit, it's a shit show, bro.
57:41
SPEAKER_05: You know, but I mean, again, it's just something that you can use in a good way and a bad way.
57:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
57:46
SPEAKER_05: So, but I I don't, you know, I don't see what the purpose is of going on there and just like fighting with a whole bunch of people you're never gonna meet.
57:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like you get people that fight with other people that like, bro, you don't even know this person, like you're wasting all this energy.
58:03
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, just like the other day, I'm watching the Beetlejuice trailer, and there's all these a hundred thousand people like fighting with each other.
58:12
SPEAKER_05: This is like, are you fucking serious?
58:17
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, yo, like it's crazy.
58:19
SPEAKER_01: What bothers me is like you don't know what's real, like because like you're saying, like, people could just lie recording and you don't even know what's real.
58:26
SPEAKER_01: So you're looking at this thing, you might be looking at it all day, all week with it.
58:29
SPEAKER_05: You know what I hate?
58:30
SPEAKER_05: I'll tell you what I fucking hate.
58:32
SPEAKER_05: Can they see me on the camera right here, right?
58:34
SPEAKER_05: Ladies, stop using that bold glamour fucking filter on your pictures, okay?
58:40
SPEAKER_05: Stop that shit.
58:42
SPEAKER_05: You're beautiful about it.
58:44
SPEAKER_05: Some crazy right now.
58:48
SPEAKER_05: What do you think about that, dude?
58:49
SPEAKER_01: Like what AI because that's the what artificial intelligence is I think it's um for some business it's good, for some it's not.
59:02
SPEAKER_05: Um, I say that to say this, it's because it's one thing to let a computer just create something, but when you get it organically from somebody that you know that's what they're blessed with, you know, it's you're taking away that.
59:19
SPEAKER_05: You're taking away something from them, you know.
59:22
SPEAKER_05: And I just, you know, it again, a lot of that stuff, yes, it helps to make things faster and move faster and stuff like that, and you know, create things way quicker and help with this.
59:31
SPEAKER_05: Some of it is very useful, some it's just kind of like, you know, it to me, it kind of takes away the interaction of humans with each other, yeah, you know.
59:40
SPEAKER_05: So like actually having to learn how to I mean, imagine if I'm here doing the interview with a robot.
59:46
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
59:46
SPEAKER_05: How fun is that?
59:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, crazy.
59:48
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
59:49
SPEAKER_05: So now I'm here with one of the dudes from my robot having this conversation, you know what I mean?
59:54
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, yeah.
59:55
SPEAKER_05: I mean, you see how I think about shit?
59:57
SPEAKER_05: Like it's just I look at it, I I look at things realistically, yes, you know, yeah.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_01: Just listening to you, Tom telling you, we're like, how do you like how do you get like that?
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: It seems like you're like, how do you be like that?
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:00:12
SPEAKER_01: Because some people are so interesting like that, you're like, dude, I never even would have thought of that.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:00:17
SPEAKER_05: Because because I uh excuse me.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_05: Um I I can't stand somebody trying to sell me a wolf ticket to a pipe dream.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: Wolf ticket, what is that?
1:00:34
SPEAKER_05: A wolf ticket.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_05: It's just like something fake, like something fake, like yeah, yeah, it's it's something like making it bigger than what it is.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_05: You know what a pipe dream is.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_05: You know what a pipe dream is?
1:00:43
SPEAKER_05: It's like a like something that's a pipe dream is somebody trying to tell you something that is is so real, but it's like if you look through that pipe, it's like all the way over there.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_05: It's you know what I mean?
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, and that is kind of people some people selling you a wolf ticket.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_05: Bro, when I was okay, so when I was younger, there were so many people like, oh man, you know, I can help you do this.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_05: But you know, if you if you sign with me, or you know, if you come fuck with me, I make it.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_05: And I used to be like, oh yeah, yeah, because you're so hungry, right?
1:01:10
SPEAKER_05: And you want to do this and you want to do that, and you want to get up on the shit, right?
1:01:14
SPEAKER_05: But you're just kind of like when you get to that point of what it is, and you're just like, This ain't what it is.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_05: That's a pipe dream.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_05: That's that was you got sold a whoop ticket.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_05: So now I'm just kind of like, like, if I don't see it for myself, or I can't deal with it myself, or you know, things of that nature, I don't even fuck with it in general, you know.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_05: So it's like, you know, that's why I am the way I am because I just I I can see through bullshit, man.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm I I try to stay 10 steps ahead of the game always, because if you don't, you'll hit that wall and you're stuck, you know, and you fall and you try to pick yourself.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_05: Nah, I try to stay 10 steps ahead.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_05: So that way, you know, if I take a loss somewhere, I kind of already set myself up to know what to do if I took a loss somewhere, you know.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_01: So do you so I know so I know one of the one of the ways to learn that is through like you trying it yourself, and another way is like getting advice from other people.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_05: Do you find yourself doing that often?
1:02:13
SPEAKER_05: Of course.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_05: I do that now still, you know what I mean.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_05: Um but the only way you could do that if you surround yourself with people that are actually doing something.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_05: You know, I would have never gone this far in my music career or anything else that I do if I just hung out with a bunch of people that were claiming to do something.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_05: So when I started, I had already jumped in the pool uh with somebody that um was really doing stuff, you know, and that's where I learned a lot of things, you know.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_05: Because the first person that I actually um recorded with in his studio, he did country music.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he didn't do rap, he didn't even like rap, you know.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_05: I was 14 years old.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_05: I recorded at uh this place, it was called Gillies on Costoris.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_05: Uh Dennis Gilly was actually really is related to Mickey Gilly, which owned Urban Um uh Um Gillies in Houston.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay, okay.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_05: Off Urban Cowboys, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_05: And then they're related to like Jerry Lee Lewis, they all play the piano.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_05: But he's the first person to actually record me.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and then I learned how to do mixing and recording vocals and all stuff through him, and then just you know, as my career progressed, you know, I've just learned other things.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_01: But wow, and so so you learn you from people that are already doing stuff, yeah.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_05: But everything that I know, 99% of the stuff that I know, I'm self-taught.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_05: I've never been to college for it.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_05: I never, you know, I didn't go to school for graphic design or um music stuff or photography or none of that shit.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm self-taught.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_01: So so how some people it's hard for them to get started in doing that.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_01: And it's almost like you have to learn how to fail in trying to figure it out.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_05: No, of course.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's always a try and error.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_05: I mean, you're never gonna get it right on the first time.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_05: It you're it's it's once in a blue moon that you might hear a story where somebody came out the gate and it just you know, but other than that, yeah, yeah.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_01: And you and you mentioned uh that you uh in the Right and High podcast shout-out with Scoob Dose rubbing elbows with the right people.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, of course, yeah.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_05: That means meaning like uh I mean being in a room with people that are actually again like doing something, you know.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_05: I got around, you know, I was doing show like my first show was opening up for 50 Cent Master P.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:04:40
SPEAKER_05: When I was 17 years old.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_05: Um, even then, the guy that kind of helped me with certain stuff, he was um it was it was my homie G Money that worked for 102.9 the bomb.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_05: Wow, you know what I mean?
1:04:54
SPEAKER_05: Um after that, you know, my my homie Tuna that owned Down South Grills, he um kind of looked out for me too with certain shows because that's what he was into, putting on shows, and and uh he was one of the dudes that did all the grills and corpus.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, being with around him, you know, he would, you know, put me on this, put me on that.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_05: And then as I got older doing other shows, you know, I got around like people like Chingo Bling, um, you know, uh who I mean, there's so many different people, but I mean, and now I do a lot of stuff for them.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_01: When did you so when did you find out you needed to do that in order to continue to progress?
1:05:31
SPEAKER_05: When you don't have any money to do certain things, you know what I mean?
1:05:36
SPEAKER_05: Uh my parents never took you know my music thing as a serious thing where they were just like, oh yeah, you know, Mijo raps, and here's a check and all this stuff.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_05: You know, it was nothing like that, you know what I mean?
1:05:47
SPEAKER_05: It was just, you know, uh my brother, you know, uh what did he he bought me uh like this little microphone recording set thing, came with like a microphone and the mixture and stuff.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_05: But that's that's what I had at one point.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_05: And then I taught myself how to do graphic design because I knew, well, if I'm gonna sell music, I need to have a cover.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_05: But I didn't have money to go pay graphic design.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_05: I didn't even know where to even go, right?
1:06:17
SPEAKER_05: Like I knew about this company called Pen and Pixel, which were one of the biggest, you know, designers in Houston.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_05: They did everybody from Master P to cash money, all this stuff.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_05: Um, but I mean, I didn't have back then, I think the the lowest package they had was like 1500 bucks, right?
1:06:33
SPEAKER_05: So me that was like$15,000.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_05: You know, so I taught myself how to do graphic design and I did all my own shit until you know I got into my 20s where you know I got into like visual stuff.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_01: So so you started learning how to do that, and then you but and then at some point you started doing it for other people, yeah, not even like thinking that you weren't even thinking like you were gonna be doing it for me.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_05: None of none of the stuff that I ever got into besides music was ever to make money off anybody.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_05: I never got into it to to look 10 years from now from then and be like, oh, I'm gonna make a business out of it.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_05: I never looked at it like that.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_05: It just it just happened, you know what I mean?
1:07:10
SPEAKER_05: And I've done a lot of stuff that people don't even realize that it actually came from corpus for me, you know what I mean?
1:07:16
SPEAKER_05: I've done a lot of shit, you know.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_05: That's what's up, man.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude, that's that's amazing to me.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you started doing that, and then eventually, and I'm and I'm thinking too, rubber and elbows with the right people, because there could be other people doing what graphic design or whatever, but just somehow you're in that place.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_05: There was only, I think um, me and and the homie Shy One, which she does like horrorcore rap.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_05: Um, me and him at that point were the only ones that really did everything for ourselves as artists.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_05: Um, so there wasn't a lot of people that were doing it, you know, the way we were doing it.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_05: Um, but you know, I I taught myself everything because again, I didn't have money, you know.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_05: Um I know a lot of people who have come up off the strength of you know money being you know inherited to them or you know stuff like that.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_05: I ain't never been blessed like that, you know what I mean?
1:08:07
SPEAKER_05: So I've just I've just kind of winged it, you know.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_01: So that's grinding, bro.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, definitely at its core.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_05: Like I mean, think about it like this, man.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_05: I ain't never been on hot 95, I mean Hot Z 95, but I made it to Hot You know 97 in New York.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_05: And I don't say that as a diss.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm just right, I say that because think about that.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_05: Hot 97 is one of the biggest radio stations in the world.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_05: And I did it with you know, I don't have a hit record, I've never had a manager.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_05: Wow, I've never been tied to a record label, right?
1:08:38
SPEAKER_05: You know, um, so and again, I don't have financial backing.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_05: I made it all the way up there solely by myself.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_05: Wow, crazy.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_05: I didn't I didn't pay for it.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_05: A lot of people thought I paid to get on that platform as bragging rights, and I never paid for that shit.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what I'm you know, so that's one thing about it.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_01: So now, so that's back in the day.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_01: Now people think that they have to do that.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_05: No, when I made it when I when I got on high 97, that was back in 2019.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_01: No, like like like getting a manager, I need to get a manager, I need to get this.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_05: I mean, if you get to a certain stature of course, you want to do a lot of you would have to get certain things like that put in place because again, not everybody has everything, you know, you can't control everything, right?
1:09:19
SPEAKER_05: You know, unless you just have the smarts for that, you know.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_05: But um me but I just you know I control I still control everything myself, you know.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_01: So do you do you um do you distribute your own music or oh no Kenny?
1:09:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, do you use distro kit?
1:09:36
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_05: I used to, but one thing about distro kit that a lot of people don't understand is that that whole paying one fee with unlimited music and stuff like that.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_05: If you don't read the fine line in that stuff, it tells you that if something should ever happen to you and that payment stop coming in, that music is belongs to them?
1:09:57
SPEAKER_05: No, it's just gonna be taken off.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay, okay.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so and so they charge you an extra fee on top of each song to keep that song up there forever.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:10:06
SPEAKER_05: So crazy.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_05: Um I my distribution is under uh CD baby at the moment.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_05: So I always always I always tell people like, you know, things like two chord, uh CD baby, and other things that you know you pay one fee to have it up there is way better than trying to like that that's where you fall into the rabbit hole where it sounds good, uh, but if you don't pay attention, then they kind of get you in in the end.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:10:30
SPEAKER_01: So have you always been like that to where you have to make sure to look at it twice instead of just a whole course, yeah.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_01: You have to do it.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_05: Dude, I look at twice everything.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:10:40
SPEAKER_05: Make sure, right?
1:10:41
SPEAKER_05: Don't you still look at your don't you still look at your order from McDonald's or something and make sure everything's in the bag?
1:10:46
SPEAKER_05: I mean, we double check.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_05: What's the first thing you do when you go to Holly's closing to bring your plate?
1:10:55
SPEAKER_05: You kind of like make sure that everything is on there, right?
1:10:58
SPEAKER_05: Like, you don't give me that guacamole in like you got that guacamole on there, man.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_05: Come on, you know.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_01: So, what's your go to at Holly School anyway?
1:11:08
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the Texas plate, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_05: A little bit of everything, yeah, you know, you know, but that's because I just don't have time to be looking at a 500 item menu, you know, like the Cheesecake Factory.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_05: You know, people, you know, in the world of the stuff that I do, it's like when somebody goes into a restaurant, any type of fast food place, you only got a couple you probably less than a minute to catch somebody's attention when it comes when it deals with stuff like that.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_05: So you think about it, you put a hundred things on a menu, you're there like yeah in a cyclopedia type thing, and by the time you know, you're not even hungry no more.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, so that's why they throw those chips and salsa on front.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_05: Oh, hell yeah.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_05: Here's some time to think the mind game, bro.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_05: It's a conspiracy a little bit more, bro.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_05: Damn, for real, bro.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's so crazy, man.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what's up, man.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you coming on.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_01: What you got, you got anything else coming up?
1:12:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, I know you mentioned projects.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_01: You got some projects coming on or something.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_05: So uh me and my whole me and my homie DJ Stump, we're uh gearing up to release some new music.
1:12:17
SPEAKER_05: Um, we're about to drop a mixtape, and then I got um a lot of original stuff coming back out, and then um hopefully get you know back on the road of doing shows and doing stuff locally and things like that as well.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_01: DJ Stump, shout out.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_01: I know I didn't want to get him off.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's my brother, man.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was actually gonna be here with me.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_01: He watched him.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_05: He actually was because he had some things he had to take care of.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_05: I don't want to put him.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_05: Something that he could have missed.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_05: He knows what I'm talking about.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_05: Um, so yeah, I didn't, you know, we weren't gonna take that chance, but you know, I'm I'm glad uh, you know, my brother's out doing doing his thing and um yeah, you know, back to where he needed to be.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_01: So I see I seen y'all's picture is like the best DJ in Corbett.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm just fucking oh my god, dude.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_01: I saw y'all's picture on on your Instagram, but it's like a maybe like a promo.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it was.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_01: But he's standing there.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_01: He don't look and just knowing y'all look like he be catfishing too.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_01: He don't look like a rapper, bro.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_01: He looks like I got my instrument.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_01: This is Oh yeah, yeah.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm just the DJ.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_01: Exactly, bro.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh dude.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but what it's cool, you know, because you know, when we met, we met um doing a gig and he was there for one thing and I was there for the other.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_05: And then, you know, he wanted me to help him do some stuff.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_05: And the first question he asked me was like, hey man, how can I really like really do some shit?
1:13:38
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, Man, you just gotta do the opposite of what everybody else ain't doing, you know.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_05: And he took my advice and he ran with it, and you know, he's been with me ever since.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_05: And he went to he went to high 97 with me, he went to New York with me.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_05: I took him with me.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_05: Wow, and he got to see what it is.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_05: So he's one person, man, that can tell you like the things I tell you or the things that I say I'm gonna do or am doing, he'll tell you that I'm not bullshitting about it, you know, because he's always he's always with me, you know, at a certain point.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_05: He always he always sees, you know.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_05: So um, you know, so that's a good thing because it's always good to have certain people there to where if somebody ever tries to doubt what you're trying to do, you have some type of clarification that, like, nah, man, you telling the truth, you know, so like uh like somebody watching over.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I mean he's but he'll tell you too, he's the same person that when uh we were coming back from New York, and he asked me, like, man, what do you think people you know are gonna say back home after seeing me on it?
1:14:35
SPEAKER_05: And I was just like, I get a lot of hate from it.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_01: Well, nobody will find out, nobody even hears about it.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_05: And then sure enough, that's what I did.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_05: I got a lot of hate from it.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, because it bec uh I know one of them was like, Why'd they put him on there?
1:14:48
SPEAKER_05: They should have put such and such and such and such and such and such and such and shit.
1:14:53
SPEAKER_05: Well, my thing was like, Well, if you're that fucking good, you know, but but this is this is what people get twisted, and this is what somebody told asked me one day.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_05: They're like, Man, you don't get upset like when you see things or when I did see things like that.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_05: And this is what I tell people I'm not gonna sit up on the internet and argue of why I deserve my winnings.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
1:15:24
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm not gonna never argue about it.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_05: That's basically complaining or like no, it's just it's it's what am what like at that point in time, what was I supposed to do?
1:15:34
SPEAKER_05: Get on the internet and comment to each person why I why I deserve to be in that chair, why I deserve to do this, why I deserve like why do I need to go to each fucking person?
1:15:43
SPEAKER_05: Like when you look kind of stand, when you kind of sit back and you look at certain things from people's perspective, you kind of break it down in sections to where it's like you guys over here don't ever promote um support anything in general, then you guys over here don't fucking buy anything and shit.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, it's like that, man.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_05: Damn, bro.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_01: So a bunch of haters never satisfied.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_05: I don't even know what to call them anymore.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_05: I don't even call them haters anymore.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh my god.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_05: Something just people that are just bored, I guess.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_01: When you're doing stuff, man, it's like.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_05: I just want to let you know that my drink is still cold in this dude.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bro.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_01: What do you gotta know?
1:16:23
SPEAKER_01: You got what you got some water?
1:16:24
SPEAKER_01: I pour my water in here.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_05: I drink, I drink liquid death.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I saw that, bro.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_01: Is it the carbonated?
1:16:31
SPEAKER_01: It's not the carbonated.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can't stand those.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_05: I can't stand those.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_05: I'm a very huge uh like soda drinker, it's very bad, but I mean, but um I can't do like those sparkling water flavor types of things.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_05: I can't, I can't stand that shit.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_05: It's something about it, bro.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_05: Like, I don't know how people drink those um white claws and all that shit.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god, the thing tastes like shit, bro.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_05: Like, it's just it's like getting a soda that has no flavoring in it, and it's just like, yo, like if we were there at the board, like I'm just like that.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_05: No, but I'll drink uh I'll drink the shitload out of uh Topi Chico and you know stuff like that.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_05: But I love liquid death, man.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_05: So shout out to Liquid Death, yeah.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_01: Shout out, right?
1:17:21
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no shame.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_01: We need to plug in.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_01: I do need I do I need every flavor.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_05: But I see, but just even that, man.
1:17:28
SPEAKER_05: You know, the one of the reasons what caught me was that whole packaging.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, it I mean like the package, the actual can and so.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the canon.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_05: If you think about it, if you're if you're walking down the street with one of those cans, it looks like you're walking around with a beer.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, it does.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:17:44
SPEAKER_05: So it's kind of funny, you know.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_05: But uh, you know, filtered water, filtered water, but I just like the way um excuse me, um, a lot of those the other flavors, like the half and half, and uh they have the peach one and things like that.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right on the sweet and sparkling waters from H E B are amazing, Anthony Diaz.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_01: I can't do it.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_01: You can't do it?
1:18:06
SPEAKER_05: Oh, hell no.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_05: There was a there was a time, shout out to my homie Johnny Smalls.
1:18:11
SPEAKER_05: He uh I I think it was Truly's or something.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_05: He was like, try this, right?
1:18:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's all and I was and I tasted, I was like, Man, it tastes like shit.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_05: But then he put me on to this little trick.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_05: He's like, Well, if you take those Kool-Aid packets that you put in waters or like the little squirt bottles, yeah, he's all you just put a little bit in there and just kind of like stir it around, and then you don't really get that bitter taste out of it or whatever.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right on.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, if I do, I have to do that.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_05: But I don't really drink that shit.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_05: I I uh I'm not a huge drinker.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_05: Um, like I don't consume alcohol like all day all night or whatever.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_05: Um now I'm into just really like uh like I drink old fashioned and stuff, yeah.
1:18:52
SPEAKER_00: Old fashioned like like uh liquor or uh okay.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_05: So when when I do, if I do consume some type of alcohol, but I really I really don't I don't really try to, you know.
1:19:01
SPEAKER_05: I have bottles and stuff like that, but um some that have been gifted to me, but I I don't really drink like that.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_01: Were you ever like a heavy drinker?
1:19:09
SPEAKER_05: Uh I wouldn't say a heavy drinker, but I mean I would drink like heavily when I would do would go out and things like that.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_05: But now it's just because of all the stuff that I got going on and you know, um you know what other things around me, um, I don't I don't try to consume in that, man.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_05: I'm just at this point in my life, it's just I don't ever want to be the cause of um you know putting somebody else's life in danger or even myself, you know.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_05: I am I a victim of doing that, drinking and driving system, of course, everybody is, right?
1:19:42
SPEAKER_05: But um, it's just certain things, man.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_05: I I just don't I don't ever want to be on the jail app for that.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:19:48
SPEAKER_01: So uh I don't really have it it was like FaceTime with like is that what it is?
1:19:52
SPEAKER_05: The Noasis County Jail app?
1:19:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_05: What do you mean?
1:19:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
1:19:57
SPEAKER_05: The Noasis County Jail app.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_05: Let me want me to give them a plug too.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_05: We gotta come in here, bro.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh they say that you NCSO.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_05: That's what it is.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_05: NCSO NCSO.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_05: Anybody want to know about the gentleman, bro?
1:20:15
SPEAKER_05: Trust me.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_05: Y'all know.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing about me, but you know what I'm gonna do.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you what I hate.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_05: Don't go do something stupid.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_05: You get locked up, you end up on the app, and you're fucking mugshot as you crying and shit because it's like, yo, you knew what the fuck you were doing.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
1:20:35
SPEAKER_05: Like, don't go out there crying, like Christy, bro.
1:20:41
SPEAKER_05: Love it, man.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, somebody said you did comedy at one time?
1:20:45
SPEAKER_01: Is that no?
1:20:48
SPEAKER_01: You say you did comedy.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_05: I've never done comedy.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_05: I'm just funny.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_05: I say a lot of funny shit, but no, I've never done it.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_05: I've actually had somebody tell me to do it.
1:20:57
SPEAKER_05: Um, shout out to my boy Lito Cortez.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_05: He done comedy, that's that's my homie, man.
1:21:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, that's my homie, man.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we were in a band together.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh he played drums up in guitar.
1:21:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very talented together.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_01: Shout out Lito, man.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_05: Shout out to the candy man and you know his moms and all his sisters and all that.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bro.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_05: Like, dude, that's yeah, that's my that's my that's my dude right there, man.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's awesome.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_01: So you know him from uh how do you know him through his dad or uh man, I can't even remember.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_01: I met Leto.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, shit.
1:21:30
SPEAKER_05: It's been so I mean, yeah, but no, that's that's my boy, bro.
1:21:33
SPEAKER_05: Like, um, we've actually talked about like doing like comedy shows and stuff like that, and everything like that.
1:21:39
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, he was into that.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_01: I I haven't seen him very talented, man.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_01: Very talented, dude.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, funny dude, for real.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, but yeah, we've done we I've known him for a long time, man.
1:21:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome, man.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, small world, right?
1:21:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely, dude.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_01: Shoot, for real.
1:21:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_01: You got those projects coming up.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_01: You get it uh with DJ Stump.
1:21:59
SPEAKER_01: Is there uh so what's the future what's uh what's going on with uh Crooked Christie?
1:22:03
SPEAKER_01: You got new trucks?
1:22:04
SPEAKER_05: Uh so we uh with with Crooked, we um got a lot of new merch coming out.
1:22:09
SPEAKER_05: Um I just say I just always say hopefully because you never know what's gonna happen for one day or the other.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_05: But um my goal now is um is to just try to introduce a lot of different stuff.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_05: Um I wanted I really want to focus on doing a lot of things for women.
1:22:28
SPEAKER_05: Um we did at the beginning, we had like women's leggings and things like that.
1:22:32
SPEAKER_05: Um I'm in the process right now of dropping um a Crooked Christie uh makeup palette and other things that are related to makeup.
1:22:41
SPEAKER_05: Um so I'm I'm in the process of doing that.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_05: Um I'm probably hopefully before the year's out, I want to drop a limited edition skateboard for all the skateboarders and stuff like that.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that'd be cool.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_05: Um but I'll only I'm only gonna make a certain amount and then after that, you know, it's it's you know it's over with that one.
1:23:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:23:01
SPEAKER_05: But I just I just really want to tap into a lot of different stuff.
1:23:04
SPEAKER_05: I know one of the one of the plans is to start introducing a lot of stuff that's gym related for all the gym rats out there and things like that, like uh bottle shakers, gym bags, um, apparel for the gym, things like that.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what's all dude.
1:23:18
SPEAKER_05: Heck yeah, man.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_05: I really I just I just and uh what I what what I want to do coming up this year too is I not only with my uh alma moder West also, but I want to do some stuff with all the school districts and try to do something to where every hat or shirt or whatever that's sold related to the school percentage goes back to them.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:23:45
SPEAKER_05: But I really want to start with um you know, like I said, my alma mater West also and try to put something in place where you know, hopefully, you know, like a spirit store can be created, you know, to where everything is made by Crooked Christie, but it's just all West Oso edition and try to get like the kids to sell it within the school so that way they can learn about retail and other things like that, and whatever's it like I said, a percentage would go back into the school.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's like that's dope, dude.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_01: So why did you decide to do that?
1:24:17
SPEAKER_01: Like some people they wouldn't even think about doing that.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_05: Because you because I feel well, I mean, well, one because I still have kids that you know that my kids are still in school, except for my son.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_05: My son's already in college, but um, he just started his thing in um here.
1:24:32
SPEAKER_05: But um the thing is is because you're not taught a lot of things that are really important in school.
1:24:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, so I look at it like you know, a lot of these kids, man, I feel like they're set up for failure as soon as they come out, especially the ones that don't go to college.
1:24:50
SPEAKER_05: You know, so I look at it like out of out of us, you know, um four brothers, my second oldest brother is the only one that went to college, you know.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_05: He got a full ride to Johnson and Wells University in Rhode Island.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_05: Amazing.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, and but that was his stay, that's what he wanted to do.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_05: But there's a lot of people, you know, that just like me.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_05: I didn't care for college, I didn't care about going there, whatever, you know.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_05: That uh once I was done with high school, that was it, and then I, you know, continued to do what I was doing.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_05: But there's just a lot of kids that I feel that like that's why you have a lot of the shit that's going on now, because a lot of these kids, they don't have no hustle behind them, right?
1:25:28
SPEAKER_05: You know, that's why a lot a lot of them are out here doing dumb shit, you know what I mean?
1:25:32
SPEAKER_05: Because they're their their world is so small, the way they look at the world is just very like there's to a lot of people, it's just there's nothing more than corpus.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_05: And when you have that mentality, you're like the the the crabs in the bucket mentality, that's what it is.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_05: That's what a lot of these kids are in.
1:25:49
SPEAKER_05: They're in that bucket.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_05: So it's if you can teach you know the younger crowd at the same time of teaching other people, and again, I'm not the most successful person in the world.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_05: I've never, you know, I I got bills and problems like everybody else.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_05: My my thing is just you know, I I was barely 30 years old when I, you know, figured everything about credit.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_05: I went through all my 20s and you know, like paying everything cash because I didn't have the knowledge of credit, you know.
1:26:21
SPEAKER_05: My my mind wasn't on that shit.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_05: My mind was just making moves, trying to make money, pay this, pay that, oh, this, this, and that, whatever.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_05: Like, but when it got to the reality of being 30 years old and you couldn't do certain things because you have no credit, like crazy, you know.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_05: So a lot of these kids they don't know about shit like that.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_01: So so you believe in like have have you uh keeping up your credit score?
1:26:41
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
1:26:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, now my credit's good.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_05: I'm on the I'm on the other side of the line.
1:26:48
SPEAKER_05: I think at uh what am I like 700 maybe something like that?
1:26:54
SPEAKER_01: So you feel like so having a credit score would help you to, I guess, uh give you more purchasing power, or like how do you look at that?
1:27:02
SPEAKER_05: Um well yeah, I mean it's it's you know, you you got kind of it's not hard for you to do certain things, you know, but again, I it's there's a lot of things that you know that I've been trying to do that I wasn't able because again of everything in the past that I didn't do as that.
1:27:22
SPEAKER_05: Because remember, in my lifestyle, it's just you're just busting a move.
1:27:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, busting a move and hustling, hustling.
1:27:27
SPEAKER_05: Like you're not looking at like, yeah, oh, I need a credit card.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_05: You're just paying cash for everything, you know, or you know, the the the way you consume it, it's just cash flow.
1:27:35
SPEAKER_05: So it's like a lot of the things you just you know, I just never get my my my mom was like, Don't ever get a credit card because if you ever put that shit in debt, I ain't never gonna pay that for you.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_05: So that's their like I don't want to mess with that.
1:27:47
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:27:48
SPEAKER_05: Growing up in my teens, but again, as I got older, you're around people that don't talk about things like that and all that stuff.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, for sure.
1:27:55
SPEAKER_05: There's definitely no knowledge.
1:27:56
SPEAKER_05: So I got up, you know, I got up and all that late, but you know, I know about it.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_01: Like you're saying, teaching the kids something like teaching them that young the shit that matters, bro.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_05: You know, the shit that actually matters.
1:28:08
SPEAKER_05: You know, the the things that were a young kid can get out of high school or even start now if they're still in school, working a job, and start building something to by the time they're 23, 24 years old, they're able to buy something that really matters.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:28:23
SPEAKER_05: You know, compared to just wasting money on an apartment that they're never gonna own.
1:28:27
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:28:28
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
1:28:29
SPEAKER_05: This that's what this whole thing is about, right?
1:28:31
SPEAKER_05: Living and and and you know, being able to pass things on to people to where it keeps going and keeps going.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_01: So and I and like a legacy, like living a legacy, yeah.
1:28:40
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I mean, it's just you know, everybody's working towards something, you know, even people that you know might live in an apartment, their goal is to what?
1:28:50
SPEAKER_05: Buy a home.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:28:52
SPEAKER_05: So it's like it's you know, like it there's levels, you know.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_05: So you do all that stuff, and but there's just a lot of people that I feel that just don't have the common knowledge about none of stuff.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_05: And I was one of those people, yeah.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_05: That's why I say that, you know, I was in the same boat too at one point.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_05: But now it's just you know, I I I fix my shit and I try to keep it, you know, fixed.
1:29:13
SPEAKER_01: I try to keep my bills on time and I pay on time or ahead of time, and you know, how do you so uh so do you how do you do you like think about retirement money or how do you how do you look at that?
1:29:25
SPEAKER_01: Like say like you're at like because your dad retired from the school, right?
1:29:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but my I mean my dad's been working since I mean my parents have been married since they were 15 years old.
1:29:35
SPEAKER_01: Amazing, yeah.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_05: That's amazing to me, man.
1:29:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, be to be married for that long and just like that's uncommon nowadays.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, totally, totally uncommon, dude.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_01: And it's for me, like it seems like there's a lot of broken homes.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know how what your situation is, but broken home, yeah.
1:29:51
SPEAKER_05: You see what I'm saying?
1:29:52
SPEAKER_05: Like I I just have to be a man and say it, you know what I mean?
1:29:55
SPEAKER_05: And but again, but again, too, man, it's I don't I don't regret none of the choices that I've made.
1:30:04
SPEAKER_05: Maybe when I was younger, I look back at it like, oh, you know, I should have thought better, whatever, but I'll never regret my kids, I'll never regret um how they all came about and stuff like that.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_05: Um and and you know, as much as I might have differences with their mothers and stuff like that, with the Ness, um I'm I'm just glad that I've never had to deal with a lot of things that maybe like people around me have dealt with.
1:30:34
SPEAKER_05: Like I'm glad that their parents, I mean their parents, their mom, their moms have never been on drugs.
1:30:40
SPEAKER_05: Um, they all have a good job, they all um, you know, fend you know for them as much as they can.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_05: We all have some type of a good relationship to a certain point, you know what I mean.
1:30:52
SPEAKER_05: But um, I can honestly say that that they all have good moms and they all you know step up to the plate as as you know as much as I can as well.
1:31:00
SPEAKER_05: And so I I can I I'll never have that attitude, you know, with them about you know just saying that oh they ain't worth the fuck and all that shit, whatever, because you know they can say the same thing about me as well, you know what I mean?
1:31:13
SPEAKER_05: You know, when you get into those differences as you get older, but I'm I'm just glad that my kids have that, and I'm glad that I was at least blessed to have kids with with people that I've never had to worry about, oh you know, my mom went to jail or this or that, and and I'm and I'm pretty sure they feel the same way, you know.
1:31:32
SPEAKER_05: I've never you know been in certain type of things where my kids had to hurt from that, you know what I mean?
1:31:41
SPEAKER_05: So, but was my idea of having kids like, oh, you know, they're just gonna be in you know separate homes.
1:31:49
SPEAKER_05: No, that was never my goal.
1:31:50
SPEAKER_05: I mean, my goal to to be honest was to I I never pictured myself having kids.
1:31:55
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:31:56
SPEAKER_05: I have one son, I have three daughters.
1:31:58
SPEAKER_05: I never grew up with sisters, it was very hard to accustom myself to having daughters, you know what I mean?
1:32:05
SPEAKER_05: So, but it's the coolest shit in the world, you know.
1:32:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for sure, man.
1:32:09
SPEAKER_05: So props to you for man, for I mean, I took my my baby Emily, um, you know, I took her to Las Vegas.
1:32:17
SPEAKER_05: We went, you know, because I'm a huge Raiders fan.
1:32:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, shout out Raider Nation.
1:32:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, but uh, yeah, you know, you know, you know, 14, 15 years old going to Las Vegas, you know, talk about that.
1:32:29
SPEAKER_05: So I've been blessed to, you know, give my kids a lot of the things that they want.
1:32:33
SPEAKER_05: You know, we have our days and have our months and stuff like that, and there's a lot of things that as a dad I don't agree with and everything, but at the end of the day, I mean my kids know what I've done for them and what I'll continue to do for them.
1:32:45
SPEAKER_01: What's some of the things that you worry you worry for them?
1:32:48
SPEAKER_01: For my kids?
1:32:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_05: Because as parents, we're just like, 'cause it's a different world.
1:32:56
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, it's you know, like me, I just turned 38 and I remember, you know, when the street lights turned on, you came inside.
1:33:04
SPEAKER_05: You know, that's a that's what I was raised up on.
1:33:06
SPEAKER_05: You know, we played football in the streets and stuff.
1:33:08
SPEAKER_05: Um to be honest with you, and and it's I didn't know the conversation was gonna go into this, but um I I do worry, man.
1:33:18
SPEAKER_05: I worry because you know, my son's just started his college thing, and you know, my son's a good kid.
1:33:26
SPEAKER_05: He he's not even though he he grew up in parts of the neighborhood, well around, you know, with me and everything like that, besides his mom, you know, he just wasn't around the shit like that as like I was, you know.
1:33:41
SPEAKER_05: So um he has a good head on his shoulders, he knows what he wants to do.
1:33:45
SPEAKER_05: Um, there's plenty of people that give him, you know, good advice, and he's around, you know, not only good family members and everything like that and friends as well, but I just always worry that you know he might fall into a situation that has nothing to do with them or be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
1:34:01
SPEAKER_05: Or so I always try to just tell him, you know, when we do talk, it's like you always gotta watch your surroundings, you just gotta see, you know, what things you know are really about, and just always never just never fall into the bullshit, you know.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_05: So I mean, because you got kids out here just killing killing each other off nothing, bro.
1:34:20
SPEAKER_05: You know, off nothing.
1:34:22
SPEAKER_05: And it's sad, bro.
1:34:23
SPEAKER_05: It's really sad.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:34:25
SPEAKER_01: And it's like you you still want them to be able to try stuff and of course, you know.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_05: But I want my kids to travel.
1:34:31
SPEAKER_05: I want my kids to travel.
1:34:33
SPEAKER_05: That's why I tried, you know, in the past to try to take them as many different as I, you know, places I've been.
1:34:39
SPEAKER_05: But you know, my son, he's been to California to go visit his uncle, you know, um, taking my daughter to uh Las Vegas and things like that.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_05: You know, it's you know, my youngest daughter, she's eight years old, but she travels a lot with my parents, and you know, so it's just things like that.
1:34:54
SPEAKER_05: I just want them to see, you know, if it's not the whole world, at least to see that there's the world is way bigger than Texas.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I got you.
1:35:02
SPEAKER_05: Way bigger than Texas.
1:35:03
SPEAKER_05: Gotcha, man.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_05: Way bigger than Texas.
1:35:05
SPEAKER_05: So yeah.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can see how that can be an eye-opener, man.
1:35:08
SPEAKER_01: See something other than what you see.
1:35:09
SPEAKER_05: But I also tell, but I also try to tell them too, it's like, you know, when we do have these talks, I I don't it you know, it's weird to have like certain talks, even with my kids, when we you know, when we do talk, we do have these because it's just again, man, I don't I don't feel old.
1:35:25
SPEAKER_05: I'm not old.
1:35:26
SPEAKER_05: That's I know that for a fact.
1:35:28
SPEAKER_05: But you know, it's they live in a totally different world.
1:35:32
SPEAKER_05: You know, you gotta remember, like you said we're like close to the age, right?
1:35:36
SPEAKER_05: So you gotta think about it.
1:35:38
SPEAKER_05: We were here before the internet when the internet started, and now we're here after the internet, right?
1:35:45
SPEAKER_05: So, and they're here with all this stuff happening.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_05: So it's kind of like you know, that's that's the thing that I kind of worry about is that my kids get caught up in a whole bunch of shit that you know that doesn't that really shouldn't pertain to them.
1:36:00
SPEAKER_05: But you know, I I the one thing I know is that I can't control a lot of things that I can't control.
1:36:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's you know, things are gonna happen, it's gonna happen.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_01: So it almost seems like as a parent, we kind of want to gravitate toward that because we have kids, you know.
1:36:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
1:36:17
SPEAKER_01: We want to be like trying to control everything, but we know we can't.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_05: Just like my daughters, man.
1:36:21
SPEAKER_05: I don't ever want them to depend on a man.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_05: You know, I want them to know that you live in a world now that as long as you have your head on right, you know, you find a hustle, you know, you you find multiple hustles, you know what I mean?
1:36:34
SPEAKER_05: Like, because what happens is that I feel that even if even if somebody, you know, doesn't have a hobby, it's good to find one, you know, even if it's you know where you can make some money out of it, because you know think about it.
1:36:46
SPEAKER_05: When COVID hit, it scared a lot of people because a lot of people didn't know what the fuck to do, right?
1:36:51
SPEAKER_05: Because you've been at this one job doing this one thing and now you just don't know what to do.
1:36:56
SPEAKER_05: But think about all the people that had multiple hustles, you know, make a t-shirt or doing this, but like you know, like people knew, like, oh shit, okay, well, my major income that's not coming in from all that, I could do this over here, yeah.
1:37:10
SPEAKER_05: And you know, I mean, people were just playing the guitar on live feeds, and people were cash shabbing them.
1:37:16
SPEAKER_05: Think about that, right?
1:37:17
SPEAKER_05: Like, people found, and that's that's just knowing that you have that hustle mentality.
1:37:23
SPEAKER_05: So, and and I if you have it, man, it's it's it's not something that you just pick up, it's something to I feel that you're born with.
1:37:32
SPEAKER_05: Like some people have it, some people don't.
1:37:34
SPEAKER_05: That's what it is.
1:37:35
SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_01: And I want to I want to go as far as to say that like uh like our culture, I guess, like especially the older generation, like they work hard, bro.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_01: Like my Diaz, they they still work hard to this day, and they're like, oh, I'm like, dang, you know what I mean?
1:37:50
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's it's you'll you'll never you'll never I mean my the stuff that I do, I mean I'll never I'll never match up to what my parents have done, is how I feel, you know what I mean?
1:38:02
SPEAKER_05: Because they came from a whole different era, they they've worked to a certain point, there were certain things that they were able to do right off the rip, you know what I mean.
1:38:10
SPEAKER_05: And nowadays a lot of this stuff don't exist.
1:38:12
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's it's it's a changing world, and you have to change with the times, yeah.
1:38:17
SPEAKER_05: Of course, yeah, yeah.
1:38:18
SPEAKER_05: Figure it out.
1:38:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I'm in the game where the shit is evolving every day.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_05: Wow, crazy.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:38:24
SPEAKER_05: Think about it.
1:38:24
SPEAKER_05: You're going from Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, TikTok.
1:38:28
SPEAKER_05: You know, if they ban the whole TikTok thing or America buys it, like what's gonna come after that?
1:38:34
SPEAKER_05: I mean, right now there's somebody sitting in their bedroom or in an office trying to create something that's way better than TikTok.
1:38:41
SPEAKER_01: Wow, crazy.
1:38:42
SPEAKER_01: Do you find yourself like being around wanting to be around younger, younger, the the newer generation, because that's the technology that they've been growing up in?
1:38:52
SPEAKER_05: Uh no, I mean, I I mean I learn every day, so a lot of the stuff that's happening, I mean, I'm I'm using it myself or I'm figuring it out myself.
1:39:00
SPEAKER_05: Um, but I'm I'm always willing to get with people that you know want to do something or they're they're you know, you know, something that's going on, you know.
1:39:12
SPEAKER_05: I'm always ready to tap into something, but I just can't do things with people that where if I if I see myself doing all of the work, yeah.
1:39:22
SPEAKER_05: There's no reason for me to be able to do it.
1:39:23
SPEAKER_05: There's no reason for me to even be around.
1:39:25
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:39:25
SPEAKER_05: That's what happens most of the time.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_01: But do you call yourself micromanaging like like or I don't macromanage nobody?
1:39:33
SPEAKER_05: I do, I just do, you know, I do it, you know, you know, the shit that I do, like clothing, you know, the crooked Chrissy Wise, you know, again, I do it with my brothers.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_05: Um, so you know, one of me, you know, me and my brother Jason, you know, we go at it sometimes, and you know, because we're two people, yeah.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_05: Uh doing, you know, we're we know we're on the same level of certain things, and we're always just trying to be better, we're trying to better ourselves, and you know, but um no, I don't, I don't, I don't micromanage nobody, man.
1:40:03
SPEAKER_05: I just you know, I I've not I I've never really been in a position to have to macromanage anybody except myself, you know what I mean?
1:40:11
SPEAKER_05: So um, but other than that, like you know, I'm always willing to work with people.
1:40:17
SPEAKER_05: I that's what that's one of my main goals, is music-wise, is I want to get with a lot of people that do music that are actually have got something going on, and I want to drop like five song projects with them.
1:40:26
SPEAKER_05: Nice, probably shoot a video to each project and just put it out and just build like that, you know, besides of doing my own solo thing.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_05: But I want there's there's a lot of you know, talented artists out here that are just never gonna get their shine, or they don't have you know the money and things like that, like I like I did, you know.
1:40:44
SPEAKER_05: So um a lot of those people, man, they're just never gonna get their shine, and I feel like they're just you know, it's it'll become wasted talent, you know.
1:40:53
SPEAKER_01: So you mentioned too, like sometimes they're around like the wrong people, like that could keep them from uh progressing.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_05: Of course.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_05: If you're around four broke dudes, what do you think you're gonna become?
1:41:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we broke also right.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, I'd rather get with people that you know have built their platform or structure off of you know this and that that has made it go up, and that's what you want to build around.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_05: You know, you're never gonna get nowhere hanging with a bunch of motherfuckers that just yeah ain't past level one, bro.
1:41:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
1:41:31
SPEAKER_05: So when I look at certain things, I'm like that don't work for me.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_01: And so and some people on level one, they think they're on level ten already.
1:41:38
SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, well, it comes to reality when they try when they look at level over here and they're just like, yeah, they ain't for me.
1:41:44
SPEAKER_05: Oh reality check.
1:41:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I mean you can get there.
1:41:48
SPEAKER_05: I'm not here talking shit.
1:41:50
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying, like, but get there the right way.
1:41:53
SPEAKER_05: Because trying to kiss ass and trying to, you know, skip the line and all this stuff, because I I've always I've always believed this is that you can go from you can go from one to a hundred, right?
1:42:06
SPEAKER_05: Like you can you can go around everybody, but what happens when you get to the hundredth spot and you're not equipped to stay there because you've missed every little thing you're supposed to pick up along the way, right?
1:42:22
SPEAKER_05: Think about it like that.
1:42:23
SPEAKER_01: Wow, crazy, man.
1:42:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's amazing.
1:42:25
SPEAKER_01: Like you need that.
1:42:26
SPEAKER_01: You need those all those other steps to get to that.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, crazy.
1:42:30
SPEAKER_05: Legend of Zelda.
1:42:31
SPEAKER_05: Legend of Zelda.
1:42:38
SPEAKER_05: Just saying, you know.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, dude.
1:42:40
SPEAKER_05: You know, Mario can't affly Mario can have fun an end with a man.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:42:45
SPEAKER_05: Like just just saying.
1:42:47
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_05: You know the raider can't shoot that bear without the two raider.
1:42:57
SPEAKER_01: These two, these two these two games today?
1:42:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh on Xbox.
1:43:02
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:43:04
SPEAKER_05: I've had every I mean, I got what do I got at home?
1:43:09
SPEAKER_05: I think I still somewhere.
1:43:10
SPEAKER_05: It wasn't mine, it was my brother's, but I know the Atari.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_05: I still have the original NES.
1:43:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I have uh Super Nintendo, I have Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, the first Xbox, Xbox 360, uh the latest Xbox.
1:43:32
SPEAKER_05: And yeah.
1:43:33
SPEAKER_05: I've never owned a PlayStation.
1:43:34
SPEAKER_05: Seriously, yeah, I've never owned a PlayStation.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_05: You didn't want to like uh I was once I got Xbox, it was just yeah, but yeah, I've never owned a PlayStation.
1:43:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
1:43:43
SPEAKER_01: I got guys come through here and there was there's always the debate uh console or PC.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I barely you know what's so crazy.
1:43:50
SPEAKER_05: So younger, I used to be a heavy gamer, but my games were like uh and I still play this to this day.
1:43:56
SPEAKER_05: Um I'm a huge Tomb Raider fan, so I play Tomb Raider a lot.
1:44:00
SPEAKER_05: I play the Hitman series a lot.
1:44:02
SPEAKER_05: Um I barely got on um is it is it Modern Warfare?
1:44:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm not too sure what related games.
1:44:11
SPEAKER_05: People probably know what I'm talking about.
1:44:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I barely got on that.
1:44:14
SPEAKER_01: Like that's the first person shooter or uh yeah, even though I I hate those games.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_05: Really?
1:44:18
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_05: Yes, it gives me a headache because all you see is the hand.
1:44:21
SPEAKER_05: Like I never I hated fucking.
1:44:24
SPEAKER_05: I look, people are gonna fucking hate me for this.
1:44:28
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
1:44:30
SPEAKER_05: I just couldn't get it with fucking golden eye.
1:44:33
SPEAKER_05: Oh well, couldn't get it.
1:44:34
SPEAKER_05: That whole hand shit.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_05: That's all you see.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_05: I couldn't, dude.
1:44:37
SPEAKER_05: I hate that shit.
1:44:39
SPEAKER_05: You start getting not just dude.
1:44:40
SPEAKER_05: It's just because it's like you go and you just see the hand line.
1:44:44
SPEAKER_05: And I'm just like, yo, I can't, I can't, I can't fuck with those games, bro.
1:44:49
SPEAKER_05: I gotta see the person, yeah.
1:44:51
SPEAKER_05: You know, walking around in a I gotta see that.
1:44:54
SPEAKER_05: I can't do the first person.
1:44:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can see that, like you're figuring stuff out, yeah, yeah.
1:44:58
SPEAKER_05: But that I mean, that's what that, you know, the modern warfare and all that stuff is, you know, shooting other people, but you know, I just hate that gun, man.
1:45:05
SPEAKER_01: Like you get online, like you play with people online.
1:45:07
SPEAKER_05: Uh when I get a chance to, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:45:09
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I don't have a lot of time to play when I do, it's like three in the morning, two in the morning, you know, when I can't sleep.
1:45:16
SPEAKER_05: But other than that, uh, I love video games, man.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_01: Dude, that's what's up, man.
1:45:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:45:21
SPEAKER_01: So you started, man, with these video games, the movies.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_05: My brothers did, because remember, they're older, they're way older than me.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, they had an Atari, and then um, you know, my posse was cleaning out the attic a while back, and uh he pulled out a lot of stuff that we had put up there, and um I we still got the uh what was it super pad?
1:45:45
SPEAKER_05: The NES Super Pad.
1:45:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, cool.
1:45:49
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome, bro.
1:45:51
SPEAKER_01: Nintendo old school Nintendo 64 Classic removed.
1:45:54
SPEAKER_05: Never had that though.
1:45:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay, okay.
1:45:56
SPEAKER_05: Never had a Nintendo 64.
1:45:58
SPEAKER_05: Oh, nice, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:45:59
SPEAKER_05: But man, Kevin, we're talking about games right now, bro.
1:46:02
SPEAKER_05: What's going on?
1:46:03
SPEAKER_05: I love that shit, man.
1:46:04
SPEAKER_05: Just because you know, it's it's you know, human like everybody else.
1:46:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh dude, no, for real, man.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_05: I mean, people think I'm an asshole at one point because they and I've had this told to me, it's because they'll go to my Instagram or and they're like, oh, your pictures make you look like you're all good.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_05: You know, and I'm just like, it's just photo aesthetics, you know.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_05: But um, but nah, I mean, you know, I try to have a good time with everybody.
1:46:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's crazy, bro.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_05: I don't got no beef with nobody, and you know, you know, well you're if you're busy too, and you gotta you gotta go, you gotta plan, like well, yeah.
1:46:39
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I mean it's just again, it's but still, it's like, you know, it's I'm just I'm like this, man.
1:46:46
SPEAKER_05: I like to, you know, if there's a good time, I'm I'm all with it.
1:46:50
SPEAKER_05: And uh, you know, I'm not a problematic person, but you know, if it has to get to that, you know, whatever.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_05: But it's at, you know, I just wake up just good, you know, good to go, you know, ready for the tackle the day.
1:47:01
SPEAKER_05: And you know, some days I'm like, I don't want to tackle this shit, but I just gotta get up and do it.
1:47:07
SPEAKER_05: And then, you know, my day never really stops, man, to be honest.
1:47:10
SPEAKER_05: It really doesn't.
1:47:11
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I go from one thing over here to go over here to go this to and and in the midst of all that, of my workflow, I'm still having to deal with personal stuff, you know, so it's like it's a whole bunch of shit.
1:47:26
SPEAKER_05: And just with liberty, yeah, man.
1:47:29
SPEAKER_05: And I'm just glad I'm not one of those people that I don't let it consume me or I become depressed and all that different stuff.
1:47:38
SPEAKER_05: I try to, you know, not think about things like that, and you know, I try to keep myself meditated to where it's like, you know, at this point, man, I look at it like I told you earlier, I can't sit, bitch, and complain about certain things.
1:47:52
SPEAKER_05: Shit is gonna happen, it's gonna happen.
1:47:54
SPEAKER_05: You gotta think, you gotta figure it out, and because you know what, it's like what what what are you gonna do?
1:47:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right on.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_01: You know, so do you do you believe it?
1:48:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh crooked Christie shirt that he's wearing.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, she's asking about the crooked Christie shirt.
1:48:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah.
1:48:08
SPEAKER_01: Show it off, hell yeah.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, right there.
1:48:10
SPEAKER_05: Is that how it is?
1:48:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's got a crooked Christie shirt, uh, Chachi.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_01: Uh hit up the the his website, crooked Christie Text, crookedchristy tx.com.
1:48:19
SPEAKER_05: You see how it's giving you false information?
1:48:21
SPEAKER_05: Good keeping, he was gatekeeping.
1:48:24
SPEAKER_05: Come on, man.
1:48:25
SPEAKER_01: See where I get it, yeah.
1:48:26
SPEAKER_01: Crooked Christie TX.com.
1:48:29
SPEAKER_05: Crooked Christie TX.com, man.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_05: Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and Facebook and all that stuff.
1:48:35
SPEAKER_05: See that?
1:48:35
SPEAKER_05: See that radio voice right there?
1:48:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so your so your tag is crooked Christie everywhere.
1:48:40
SPEAKER_01: Or is it crooked Christie TX?
1:48:42
SPEAKER_05: Crooked Christie.
1:48:43
SPEAKER_05: No, that's just the URL that's crooked Christie.
1:48:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_01: You you couldn't have you couldn't get the URL?
1:48:48
SPEAKER_05: You know what's so crazy.
1:48:49
SPEAKER_05: Uh let me tell you a story.
1:48:51
SPEAKER_05: Um somebody came to us.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_05: We're Day of the Dead.
1:49:00
SPEAKER_05: They came to us and they tried to say that they owned a thing called Crooked Christie.
1:49:05
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
1:49:06
SPEAKER_05: Right?
1:49:07
SPEAKER_05: So I was like, alright, whatever.
1:49:08
SPEAKER_05: You know, again, already I was already dealing with stupid shit like this, right?
1:49:13
SPEAKER_05: So dude had a Facebook page, all this other shit, or whatever, and um what was it?
1:49:21
SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't know if he was trying to do clothing as well or something like that.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_05: And he was telling me that he owned this and he owned that, and it's like, well, how do you own something if I actually own it?
1:49:32
SPEAKER_05: If the trademark is already trademarked, it's copyrighted.
1:49:35
SPEAKER_05: It's not like it, like, how do you own something that you don't own, right?
1:49:38
SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
1:49:39
SPEAKER_05: And um yeah, so I don't I don't know if this person like owned the URL or some shit like that or whatever.
1:49:48
SPEAKER_05: But I remember talking to the dude on the phone, and you know, I remember the conversation was like, Look, bro, like whatever you're trying to do is not gonna work, right?
1:49:59
SPEAKER_05: And And you know, you're not gonna win anything.
1:50:02
SPEAKER_01: You telling you this?
1:50:04
SPEAKER_05: I'm telling him that.
1:50:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm telling him that.
1:50:06
SPEAKER_05: Like whatever you're whatever you're thinking you think you could do, it's not gonna happen, right?
1:50:10
SPEAKER_05: Like I, you know, we own this shit.
1:50:12
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:50:13
SPEAKER_05: Um, but I did tell him, I was like, look, man, you know, um, I think he said he did have bought he bought the URL or some shit like that.
1:50:20
SPEAKER_05: And I was just like, well, okay, well, you know, I'll give you what it's worth.
1:50:24
SPEAKER_03: Oh well.
1:50:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and how much is a URL?
1:50:27
SPEAKER_05: It's like 11, 12.
1:50:28
SPEAKER_05: So I give you what it's worth, you know.
1:50:30
SPEAKER_05: And because this is at the very beginning of when all this stuff is starting, and you just like, oh well, this and that, and all that shit.
1:50:36
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, look, bro, like it, I don't give a fuck if you have the a URL, whatever.
1:50:42
SPEAKER_05: Like I own the trademark.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:50:51
SPEAKER_05: No, serious.
1:50:52
SPEAKER_05: Wow, I is so so it might is this is that website?
1:50:57
SPEAKER_01: Let me see.
1:50:57
SPEAKER_01: Let me look at crookedchrissy.com, see if they still own it.
1:51:00
SPEAKER_01: Have you changed you checked to see if you can get it or not?
1:51:02
SPEAKER_05: I mean, crooked Chrissy Texas is fine with us.
1:51:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, that's what's up.
1:51:07
SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's nothing on that page.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_05: There's nothing.
1:51:09
SPEAKER_05: There's no, there's no that nobody still owned it.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_05: Nobody had nothing related to what we had.
1:51:15
SPEAKER_05: So it again, it's just somebody just tried doing something or whatever, and it just never happened.
1:51:22
SPEAKER_05: I don't know, yeah.
1:51:23
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, no, nobody owned anything.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_05: Like nobody owned this before we did.
1:51:27
SPEAKER_05: Like, we literally created all this, yes, yeah, yeah.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, awesome, man.
1:51:31
SPEAKER_05: So I didn't create the word, yeah.
1:51:33
SPEAKER_05: I just create we created the brand.
1:51:36
SPEAKER_01: So it's you know, so so you so you're you can't go, well, they don't they haven't picked you to go to the day of the dead anymore.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_05: No, but you I mean you don't get picked, you have to like register and all the stuff, but I mean when you go when you're doing it for like three, four years straight, and all of a sudden you send in the same paperwork and you send in the same this and then you get rejected, it's kind of like what?
1:51:56
SPEAKER_05: You know, so I don't know.
1:51:58
SPEAKER_05: Somebody, I don't know how true it is, but somebody was telling me that you know it went back to where things that were being sold there it had to actually be handmade and all this other shit.
1:52:07
SPEAKER_05: I don't know, I don't know how true that is, but I think it's just kind of fucking stupid.
1:52:11
SPEAKER_05: I mean, what am I supposed to do?
1:52:12
SPEAKER_05: Buy go buy a t-shirt machine and be there on the side of the street and be like, oh, here you go.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_05: Like, it's fucking retarded.
1:52:19
SPEAKER_05: But that's what I'm saying.
1:52:20
SPEAKER_05: It's stupid shit like that.
1:52:23
SPEAKER_05: What am I supposed to?
1:52:24
SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm supposed to have somebody's grandma embroidering the hat so I could be a part, like, yeah, you know, but you'll let you know, Miss So-and-so down here sell soaps and shit, and you don't know what they're putting into it, but I'm gonna get the fucking, you know, it's I hate that shit, man.
1:52:42
SPEAKER_05: God, sometimes I get so upset with Corpus.
1:52:44
SPEAKER_05: I love Corpus to death.
1:52:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:52:46
SPEAKER_05: But god damn, man, it's like y'all motherfuckers need to get your shit together when it comes to some of this shit, you know.
1:52:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm gonna get a great on this motherfucker.
1:53:02
SPEAKER_05: All the way up to the top, bro.
1:53:04
SPEAKER_05: No, that's cool.
1:53:05
SPEAKER_05: You know, but then I think about like, man, do I want to be out there in the 100-degree heat?
1:53:12
SPEAKER_05: I love you.
1:53:16
SPEAKER_05: You know, 100-degree heat trying to sell you a t-shirt, and be like, just order it, you know, just order it off the left side.
1:53:23
SPEAKER_05: You know, I throw a free sticker in there, you know.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_05: You know what's so crazy?
1:53:27
SPEAKER_05: People don't even know that, you know.
1:53:29
SPEAKER_05: Um, what's oh, people don't even know that, you know, sometimes I might throw a little extra in that package, yeah.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_05: You know, just for love, you know.
1:53:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's cool.
1:53:39
SPEAKER_01: So you package it yourself, you package it yourself or do everything.
1:53:45
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
1:53:46
SPEAKER_05: There is no you order the t-shirt off the website and then it's like a whole third company that prints it and then sends it up.
1:53:57
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm mailing that shit to you.
1:54:00
SPEAKER_05: Hell yeah.
1:54:01
SPEAKER_05: I gotta get my ass up in the morning to make sure all those orders get to the you know to the mailbox and you know stuff like that.
1:54:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I've had people actually like, hey, can you just come drop it off to me?
1:54:12
SPEAKER_05: You know, stuff like that.
1:54:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh yeah, drop ship is what uh DJ Lil King.
1:54:16
SPEAKER_01: He's got to do that.
1:54:17
SPEAKER_01: There's no dropship.
1:54:18
SPEAKER_05: It's really not, it's really drop drop shipping too.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_05: It's funny you brought that up, but drop shipping too is sometimes really not a good thing to even get into for for stuff, man.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_01: You lose money that way, I think.
1:54:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean that money that you can have, yeah, yeah.
1:54:30
SPEAKER_05: But you know, it's it's um but that's what it is, man.
1:54:34
SPEAKER_05: I I actually we did, you know, take it now that I think about it, we did have there there was a point in time that I did find a space and I wanted to open up as a store.
1:54:44
SPEAKER_05: And I I don't think they like the idea.
1:54:49
SPEAKER_01: The owner or the plaza or something.
1:54:51
SPEAKER_05: I I don't think they like the idea of like having like a clothing, like a streetwear thing.
1:54:58
SPEAKER_05: This is this is the thing that gets me.
1:55:02
SPEAKER_05: Why shoot down an an idea or a business, whatever you don't even know what the concept of the business is.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_05: But this is what ha this is exactly what has happened with me with a lot of different stuff.
1:55:14
SPEAKER_05: And and I'm here to tell you this, and I and I hope that you know you have an audience that the people that deal with the city don't sell so they know this is that again I would have never made and and repeat this, I would have never made the front page of the business section if this was something negative.
1:55:39
SPEAKER_05: You think the Car Times would have thrown me on the front page of the business section if this was bad?
1:55:44
SPEAKER_05: If this was something that wasn't actually, you know?
1:55:49
SPEAKER_05: I understand crooked Christie, people think it's bad and all that stuff.
1:55:53
SPEAKER_05: But come on.
1:55:54
SPEAKER_05: It's gotten to the point to where it's like, you know what's fucking cool.
1:56:00
SPEAKER_05: Right?
1:56:00
SPEAKER_05: Like you own your brand, right?
1:56:02
SPEAKER_05: And you're giving me props.
1:56:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right?
1:56:05
SPEAKER_05: So think about that.
1:56:06
SPEAKER_05: We've built something to where again, how cool would it be Crooked Christie hooks jersey night doing a partnership with them?
1:56:17
SPEAKER_05: And it's like, dude, them the first the first person, one of the first people to buy something from us at the day of the dead.
1:56:27
SPEAKER_05: This is when we were barely setting our tent up and stuff like that, right?
1:56:29
SPEAKER_05: Because it was like four or five in the afternoon or some shit like that.
1:56:32
SPEAKER_05: The first person to buy something from us was like a 60-year-old white lady.
1:56:37
SPEAKER_00: Wow, crazy.
1:56:38
SPEAKER_05: Do you think you she knew what the fuck Kirk or Christie was?
1:56:40
SPEAKER_05: Wow, crazy.
1:56:41
SPEAKER_05: Fuck no, because she told me, I don't even know what this is, but it looks cool.
1:56:44
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:56:44
SPEAKER_05: And boom, bought the first shirt.
1:56:47
SPEAKER_05: So think about that, dude.
1:56:48
SPEAKER_05: I've had police officers buy my shit.
1:56:51
SPEAKER_05: You know, like there was one, um, I forgot his name, but I had a police officer come to one of our pop-up.
1:56:58
SPEAKER_05: Um, he wasn't he wasn't on duty or nothing like that, but he told me that before even attempting to purchase our stuff, he had looked into it.
1:57:07
SPEAKER_05: Oh wow, to make sure that it had nothing to do with any type of gang shit or whatever.
1:57:11
SPEAKER_05: And when he saw what we were doing because we were doing all these pop-ups, you know, inviting the community to come see us.
1:57:17
SPEAKER_05: He saw then, like, okay, this ain't bad.
1:57:19
SPEAKER_05: And when he started to see our shirt designs and our hats designs and stuff like that, shit, he came and fucking would come and shout with us a lot, man.
1:57:27
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, so it's nothing negative, man, at all.
1:57:30
SPEAKER_05: I want, I mean, I've made you know, Cricket Chrissy is for the youngest kid, boy or girl on the block to the oldest dude, you know what I mean?
1:57:41
SPEAKER_05: So it's just an all-around brand.
1:57:43
SPEAKER_05: That's what we built it for.
1:57:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:57:45
SPEAKER_01: CC Hooks collab would be fire.
1:57:47
SPEAKER_05: You see that?
1:57:48
SPEAKER_05: So, Hooks, get to get get get who I need to talk to over at the right.
1:57:54
SPEAKER_05: Like, come on, you know, that would be sweet, man.
1:57:58
SPEAKER_05: No, they ain't gotta pay for shit.
1:57:59
SPEAKER_05: I'll pay for my own goddamn stuff.
1:58:01
SPEAKER_01: Like low a local brand to man, dude, that would be sweet, dude.
1:58:05
SPEAKER_05: I mean, just I mean, Crooked Christie Hooks, Jersey night, like all those jerseys that they do, the ones that just give the people a hundred uh, you know, I'd be like, man, let's create this one badass jersey, you know, something, and the first hundred people to walk in there, however they do it, you know.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_05: It's like, you know, yeah, yeah, man.
1:58:23
SPEAKER_05: You know, so that's big right there.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_05: Hopefully, we can make it happen.
1:58:26
SPEAKER_05: Hell yeah.
1:58:27
SPEAKER_05: You know, so man, that'll be but I would love to do it with all of them.
1:58:31
SPEAKER_05: I would love to do it, you know, maybe with the islanders.
1:58:33
SPEAKER_05: Um what is the the ice rays?
1:58:36
SPEAKER_05: I would love to, I would love to drop a Crooked Christie ice race jersey.
1:58:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, you know what I mean?
1:58:41
SPEAKER_05: Have it one for one night or something.
1:58:43
SPEAKER_05: Um what else are we getting?
1:58:45
SPEAKER_05: Are we getting something else?
1:58:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure, man.
1:58:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's like a arena football thing or something.
1:58:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's started.
1:58:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess I think whatever all that shit is.
1:58:53
SPEAKER_05: I want to do it all, man.
1:58:54
SPEAKER_05: But it's just because, see, I don't know who's in charge of certain things like that.
1:58:59
SPEAKER_05: You know, and if I go to certain people that I think I know who may be, they might not give me that information because they don't want to see me shine out here, you know what I mean?
1:59:09
SPEAKER_05: So it's kind of like I just gotta flood through the little pipeline myself and just go straight to the source.
1:59:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I mean, if enough people, you know, tag us in the comments and say, hey, y'all need to do a collab with such and such, that's where you start to wake people up, man.
1:59:23
SPEAKER_05: And that's what I want people to know.
1:59:24
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, that's how shit happens.
1:59:27
SPEAKER_05: The the the amount of people that want to see something happen need to go and they need to comment, like, man, y'all need to do a collab with this or do a collab with that, you know what I mean?
1:59:34
SPEAKER_05: So that way it actually happens because a lot of times things don't happen just solely off one person, you know, because I can go in there and sell myself and sell this and try to do all that, but it takes the community of the people that actually like to see shit like that happen speak up.
1:59:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know what I mean.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_05: So it's it's it's easier said than done.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
1:59:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh Joe Brock is your hooks plugs, plug now.
2:00:02
SPEAKER_05: Okay, which there you go.
2:00:03
SPEAKER_05: Let's get it, let's get it cracking.
2:00:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bro.
2:00:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shout out to that person that put you in the business section, whoever that wrote that article, dude.
2:00:11
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that was uh Julie.
2:00:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:00:14
SPEAKER_05: Julie put us out there and she uh she saw what she what we were doing, and she, yeah, man, came and did a whole interview and put me on there and stuff.
2:00:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude.
2:00:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's awesome.
2:00:24
SPEAKER_05: That sits on my wall too.
2:00:26
SPEAKER_05: I would have never thought that would happen.
2:00:28
SPEAKER_05: Wow, dude, seriously.
2:00:30
SPEAKER_05: So it's pretty cool, and you know, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
2:00:33
SPEAKER_01: It's like a trophy, man, dude.
2:00:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you gotta do that.
2:00:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's just I mean, again, man, it's just it's it's it's just a cool thing to see done and be a be a part of because again, I come from a place that my life could have gone a hundred different ways, you know what I mean.
2:00:49
SPEAKER_05: I could have got trapped up in the system and done this and done that, and you know what I mean, and I'm just glad that I've gone this far doing things, you know, with my brothers and you know, other people that I do business with, with other, with other stuff.
2:01:04
SPEAKER_05: But um, I mean to to to make things like the local paper and you know, be on this and be on that, and and I mean, even being on something like this, you know what I mean?
2:01:14
SPEAKER_05: Because you gotta look at it like whether people look at your podcast big or small, even like you know, uh King's Riding High, whatever, it's still an honor for me because um you're you you're inviting, you know what I mean.
2:01:30
SPEAKER_05: I'm not here knocking on the door, like, hey, can I get on your thing?
2:01:33
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
2:01:34
SPEAKER_05: So it's once when somebody invites you on, you gotta take that as an honor, you know what I mean?
2:01:38
SPEAKER_05: Because you don't, you mean you don't have to be there.
2:01:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know what I mean?
2:01:41
SPEAKER_05: Those people, you know, anybody doesn't have to invite you or do that or whatever.
2:01:45
SPEAKER_05: And that's why I try to keep you know a good relationship with folks, because you know, just like me, if if I know somebody does something and someone says, hey man, does somebody know, you know, that does this or do that, like man, I go quickly tag them, you know what I mean?
2:01:59
SPEAKER_05: Because those people always done right by me.
2:02:01
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
2:02:02
SPEAKER_05: They've been respectful to me, they always show me love, I'm gonna show love back, and it's the same thing, you know, like um and it and she's always gotta do things like that, you know.
2:02:11
SPEAKER_05: Even even, you know, King, you know, he's hollered at me about doing like a riding high, crooked Chrissy, you know, collab bow and things like that.
2:02:18
SPEAKER_05: And I've had a lot of people ask me about different collabs and stuff like that, but um, it just always comes down to the business wise of it.
2:02:25
SPEAKER_05: Does it make sense?
2:02:26
SPEAKER_05: You know, are we gonna, you know, make you know, some money out of it?
2:02:30
SPEAKER_05: And you know, again, is it gonna make sense?
2:02:34
SPEAKER_05: You know, because I rather, you know, do things that make sense because at the end of the day, when you make it happen, it becomes way more beautiful because it's like, damn, that should actually work, you know what I mean?
2:02:47
SPEAKER_05: So that's why you always gotta make sure what you do, you do it from you know the ground up.
2:02:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a business, it's your livelihood.
2:02:53
SPEAKER_01: And then shout out to the Ride and High Podcast, which I found out about you.
2:02:57
SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh, you were on Scoopdose, Right and High Podcast.
2:03:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
2:03:00
SPEAKER_01: And then I was like, Oh shoot, I gotta get him on.
2:03:02
SPEAKER_01: So after when I saw that, I hollered at you.
2:03:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was like, come on, man.
2:03:06
SPEAKER_01: And then like I don't want people to think that there's any animosity toward us because like I have a brand too.
2:03:11
SPEAKER_01: And there was like I got a comment from somebody like when I first started, they're like, Oh, Crookie Christie's like the original brand or whatever.
2:03:17
SPEAKER_01: I was like, whatever, man.
2:03:19
SPEAKER_01: You know the meaning.
2:03:20
SPEAKER_05: I don't I I don't I mean, I pay attention to what's going on because you got to, but you know, I'm not gonna sit here and down somebody else for doing something, you know what I mean?
2:03:32
SPEAKER_05: Unless it's something like trying to like copy us or try to step on our toes or something.
2:03:41
SPEAKER_05: But but again, you never do that in the fashion of doing something like that publicly, you know what I mean?
2:03:47
SPEAKER_05: Like there was a time where, you know, um somebody was selling Cricket Christie shirts, but it was like designed with the you know, Chanel logos and all the different, you know, all that shit.
2:03:58
SPEAKER_05: And you know, it was being sold in the Trade Center, and you know, I had to go and just talk to them and let them know, like, hey, I own that, and you know, it you can't sell a t-shirt that says Crooked Christie on it because I don't want people to think I made that.
2:04:12
SPEAKER_05: It it goes down the same path of when people thought, you know, me and um you know, Dusty's corpus hat was made by me, you know what I'm saying?
2:04:22
SPEAKER_05: Because, you know, a lot of people don't know and the confusion is there, but at the same time, you still have to, you know, um let people know that no, you don't do that, you don't do this, whatever.
2:04:31
SPEAKER_05: But I I don't I don't take negative energy from that type of stuff, you know what I mean?
2:04:39
SPEAKER_05: Because again, it's like everybody's in their own lane, you know what I mean.
2:04:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm not you know, I'm not trying to crash into somebody else's lane, I'm in my own thing, you know.
2:04:47
SPEAKER_05: I'm in tunnel vision, like yeah, unless the thing just doesn't deal with you know messing with anything that's going on over here financially, legally, whatever.
2:04:56
SPEAKER_05: I mean, more power to you, you know what I mean?
2:04:59
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, but I've had a lot of dude, trust me, I've had a lot of people hit me up about how can I do this, how can I do that, you know, I'll give them some gems or whatever, and then it's like they're quickly back to throwing shade on me.
2:05:14
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
2:05:15
SPEAKER_05: I've helped a lot of people, bro.
2:05:16
SPEAKER_05: I've done a lot of things for a lot of people, and then I'm not talking money-wise, I'm talking about throwing gems, helping them do this, write music, produce this, all this different shit.
2:05:25
SPEAKER_05: I'll never, I'll never get credit of love being shown back to a certain extent.
2:05:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know what I mean?
2:05:30
SPEAKER_05: That's just the way it is, you know, and that's why it's just kind of like I don't even, you know, pay attention to what's going on.
2:05:37
SPEAKER_05: As long as it just doesn't affect over here, I don't, you know, more but like I said, more part of you and everybody else, you know.
2:05:43
SPEAKER_05: Do you find yourself like tempted?
2:05:44
SPEAKER_01: Do you find yourself tempted to want to be like, like, no, they owe me money.
2:05:48
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
2:05:48
SPEAKER_05: Like, oh, there's people that owe me money, or they owe me this, or they owe me.
2:05:52
SPEAKER_05: There's people, there's people right now on social media that will cap all day, but I'm just like, man, you owe me money.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_05: Shut up.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know what I mean?
2:05:59
SPEAKER_05: But um, but again, it's just I don't, I don't, I mean, I'll say little slick shit here and there, whatever, but I don't I deal with people one-on-one.
2:06:11
SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna waste my time on social media talking shit or whatever.
2:06:14
SPEAKER_05: I mean, that I've have I done it, yes, I have, but it, you know, there was one time I had to do it because somebody tried to say something slick and I had to, you know, park it.
2:06:23
SPEAKER_05: But at the same time, it's like if I if I have an issue, if I have a real issue, a real, real issue, I'm gonna go talk to that person.
2:06:30
SPEAKER_05: Because I always feel conversation is what's gonna change everything.
2:06:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
2:06:33
SPEAKER_05: See, because what happens a lot, it goes back to, you know, the lies more entertaining than the truth, is that you know people are just gonna create their own little narrative about you know me and everybody else.
2:06:47
SPEAKER_05: But you you just kind of sometimes you gotta nip that shit, man.
2:06:50
SPEAKER_05: And that's why, like, if I ever hear something about me or whatever, and it's not something crazy, whatever, you know, I'll just be like, you know, like, oh, did you really say this about me or did you feel this way or whatever?
2:07:00
SPEAKER_05: But I it it's never been in any type of like, you know, disrespectful talk of shit type of thing, unless it had to go that route.
2:07:08
SPEAKER_05: But I mean, I've never really had to be in situations like that.
2:07:11
SPEAKER_05: So I believe a conversation will change everything, especially when you're way older, you know.
2:07:15
unknown: Yeah.
2:07:15
SPEAKER_05: If we're 17, 18 years old, you know, fucking there probably gonna be no conversation.
2:07:20
SPEAKER_05: Somebody's gonna try to shoot somebody just for the hell of it.
2:07:22
SPEAKER_05: But no, like I I don't have no real beef.
2:07:27
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I do have my issues with certain individuals that I'll take that to the grave.
2:07:32
SPEAKER_05: But other than that, there is no legitimate beef in people, you know, no at all, man.
2:07:37
SPEAKER_05: Especially not in business, you know.
2:07:38
SPEAKER_05: I don't give a fuck.
2:07:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, business is business, man.
2:07:41
SPEAKER_01: Damn, this is a good conversation.
2:07:43
SPEAKER_05: I mean, the money that you make is your money.
2:07:44
SPEAKER_05: What do I have to do?
2:07:45
SPEAKER_05: I think that you know what I'm saying.
2:07:46
SPEAKER_05: That's what I'll say.
2:07:47
SPEAKER_01: That's what I say too.
2:07:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, well, you gotta bring I got one.
2:07:49
SPEAKER_01: Dusty sells stuff.
2:07:50
SPEAKER_01: There's uh Breland Price, he he's got the corpus forever thing, uh made in corporate security.
2:07:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, he yeah, you know, you see what I'm saying?
2:07:58
SPEAKER_05: He's one of my homies too.
2:07:59
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
2:08:00
SPEAKER_05: And and uh, you know, he he's he's uh he's hit me up.
2:08:05
SPEAKER_05: We've had conversations about, you know, he'd ask me certain things, and I'll tell him this and that, and you know, everybody's just doing their thing, man.
2:08:12
SPEAKER_05: You know, it's people my thing is the people that support me, the people that support Crooked, the people that support my music, I'm grateful for them because they don't have to, you know what I'm saying?
2:08:25
SPEAKER_05: That they don't have I I don't expect anybody to do anything, you know what I mean.
2:08:29
SPEAKER_05: My thing is just this is what I do, this is what I chose to do, and I hope that every time somebody listens to one of my songs, they enjoy it or they like it or share it, or if they buy a cup or a shirt or a hat or crooked Chrissy, they feel proud to know that something was made for us, you know what I mean?
2:08:48
SPEAKER_05: Because this brand don't have no colors, you know what I mean?
2:08:52
SPEAKER_05: It's it's for everybody, you know what I mean.
2:08:54
SPEAKER_05: And and I mean, there's all there's also something too that I'm gonna introduce.
2:08:59
SPEAKER_05: Um, I just don't really know what it is yet, but it's in the works for just the LGBTQ community, you know what I mean?
2:09:06
SPEAKER_05: So to show people like, hey man, like whatever you may feel, whatever, like I'm cool with everybody, man.
2:09:12
SPEAKER_05: You know, I want everybody to shine.
2:09:14
SPEAKER_05: Right on, you know, but sometimes there's certain people that don't want you to shine, you know what I mean?
2:09:20
SPEAKER_05: But I say fuck it.
2:09:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, I'm in the rough, man.
2:09:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
2:09:24
SPEAKER_01: So go against the grain.
2:09:25
SPEAKER_01: Got to, yeah, got to, yeah, man.
2:09:28
SPEAKER_01: Well, I appreciate you coming out, man.
2:09:29
SPEAKER_01: We've been up two hours right here.
2:09:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm falling asleep already.
2:09:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm an old man, bro.
2:09:35
SPEAKER_01: You must have worked, yeah.
2:09:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, shoot, man.
2:09:38
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, thanks for coming on.
2:09:40
SPEAKER_01: You got anything else you want to share before we take out?
2:09:42
SPEAKER_05: Oh man, uh, if you don't know about me, it's your first time hearing me, man.
2:09:47
SPEAKER_05: Uh check me out, Mr.
2:09:48
SPEAKER_05: Playboy M-I-S-E-A-P-O-A-Y-B-O-Y.
2:09:52
SPEAKER_05: You can uh find me on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, all this stuff.
2:09:58
SPEAKER_05: Check me out on iTunes right now, and um keep following Crooked Chrissy, man, and you know, shop, support it.
2:10:08
SPEAKER_01: Thanks a lot, you guys, for watching.
2:10:09
SPEAKER_01: Stay tuned for the next few episodes.
2:10:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we got a few uh some other people coming on.
2:10:13
SPEAKER_01: Stay tuned.
2:10:13
SPEAKER_01: You can check out on Instagram, everywhere else, uh Spotify, whatever.
2:10:17
SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you guys.
2:10:17
SPEAKER_01: Have a good one.
2:10:18
SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.