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5-27-26 Hour 1 - Avs swept out of the playoffs/Complete and total shock/Roster revisionist history · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Keane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: That is empty for the Avalanche. Blackman on the bench,
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  Speaker 2: nature's a shot that scar tip Den, there's.
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  Speaker 3: Hope after roll.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's brock Nelson in front along with Landeskog
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  Speaker 2: two O three to go in the third period. Landeskog,
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  Speaker 2: I think is gonna get his third goal of the series,
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  Speaker 2: and the Avalanche are within one with two minutes to
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  Speaker 2: go in Game four, the Car.
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  Speaker 3: At the bloom lone.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to get it across center ice. Landeskog can't
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  Speaker 2: get a deep fagas pack with it. They played off
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  Speaker 2: the French for the Avalanche. The Car sends it ahead
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  Speaker 2: two seconds one and the Avalanche season is done. So
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  Speaker 2: the first time since two thousand and eight, Colorado is
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  Speaker 2: swept in a playoff series and the Cup favorites.
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  Speaker 4: Have been eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: Final score in Game four of the Western Conference Finals
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  Speaker 2: the Golden Knights two and the Avalanche on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean humility is certainly a word you can use
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  Speaker 6: for it. I think that's that's sports in general. I
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  Speaker 6: think you're you're going to run into that a lot
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  Speaker 6: on any given day, on any given year, and especially
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs. Right, So yeah, losing socks and losing
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  Speaker 6: four straight is worse and losing I think the further
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  Speaker 6: you go, the worse it gets for me.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I mentioned this after Game three, and it applies
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  Speaker 7: even more today. I'm very concerned about with the way
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  Speaker 7: this finished, and it looked like the last two periods
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  Speaker 7: you just had nothing. I'm concerned now that I have
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  Speaker 7: been shaken to my core in my ability to evaluate sports,
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  Speaker 7: because I won't be able to trust anything ever again.
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  Speaker 7: I watched the AVS team like and Vic, it's funny,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm dead serious. I watched the Savs team from
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  Speaker 7: Game one of the regular season to nine games into
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  Speaker 7: the postseason and said to myself, I have full faith
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  Speaker 7: that not only is this team gonna get by Vegas,
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  Speaker 7: I think Carolina, who I think is gonna go on
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  Speaker 7: the other side of the docket, is gonna have a
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  Speaker 7: whale of a time to try and get through the Avs.
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  Speaker 7: And this was old has gotten me to the point where,
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  Speaker 7: let's say next year the Avs win the President's Trophy again,
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  Speaker 7: They're the number one team in hockey. They go through
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  Speaker 7: the first two series of the playoffs, winning eight of
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  Speaker 7: their first nine games. I'm gonna enter that Game one
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  Speaker 7: of the Western Conference Final and say, I have no
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  Speaker 7: idea what I'm gonna see. That's what this series has
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  Speaker 7: done to me. It has shaking my ability to evaluate sports.
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  Speaker 3: How do I trust you and you stray?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: What am I supposed to do? Now?
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  Speaker 7: This team felt in every single aspect, not only Cup contenders,
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  Speaker 7: overwhelming Cup favorites like Parade. Time to get beaten in
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  Speaker 7: this manner in the last four periods, going to the
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  Speaker 7: third of Game three, in these first three where moj
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  Speaker 7: you win twenty five minutes, almost half the game without
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  Speaker 7: a shot on goal, a shot for a team who
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  Speaker 7: led the league in scoring.
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  Speaker 8: It's insane. It it doesn't seem real, it doesn't seem right.
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  Speaker 8: More will come out in the next several days. I'm
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  Speaker 8: sure when you're doing the recap autopsy of this playoff series,
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  Speaker 8: because it's not it's not the whole season, it's this
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  Speaker 8: one particular series. More will come out about injuries and
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  Speaker 8: about guys who are what are with None of that
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  Speaker 8: even matters or none of it's anything right now. I
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  Speaker 8: said last night after the after the game and doing
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  Speaker 8: my thing with Johnny Lyles, I said, look, if if
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  Speaker 8: you told me that if the Avs lost to the
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  Speaker 8: Western Conference Final, I would have been really disappointed and surprised, surprised.
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  Speaker 5: You know that. Wow, Austin seven games to Vegas? Wow?
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  Speaker 5: What have.
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  Speaker 8: I could never have predicted this, I mean, never four
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  Speaker 8: games and never the way. It's not even that you
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  Speaker 8: lost Theviccots the way it went down. It's the lack
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  Speaker 8: of clutchness. It's the big guns not coming through. When
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  Speaker 8: you had such wonderful seasons from these guys and all
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  Speaker 8: time points marks, you know for Nats and Nellie's back
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  Speaker 8: over thirty goals and all these different kinds of things.
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  Speaker 8: You're luck it in again, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 8: even though he don't with injury this year, that regular
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  Speaker 8: season was phenomenal. It's just it's not only is it
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  Speaker 8: a bummer, but it's just almost inexplicable. It's hard to
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  Speaker 8: even comprehend, to put your finger on it.
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  Speaker 9: You could almost tolerate a hard fought defeat at this
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  Speaker 9: juncture of the season. Given a couple of the injuries
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  Speaker 9: and all that.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever.
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  Speaker 9: It's not an excuse at all, So don't even try
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  Speaker 9: me there. But you could not foretell, and you could
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  Speaker 9: not anticipate, and you could not understand falling completely off
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  Speaker 9: a cliff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it was.
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  Speaker 8: Well, listen, we got to the point I'm talking to
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  Speaker 8: Lee after the end of the period, where I go,
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  Speaker 8: how long was it? What was ther last shot? I
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  Speaker 8: asked him, And what was the last shot? And then
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  Speaker 8: I started counting. They were stuck on fourteen forever, and
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  Speaker 8: then I started counting, Well, how long into the period
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  Speaker 8: is it? Yeah, and we're looking at about twenty five minutes.
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  Speaker 8: You had one shot in that span, one shot fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: When's the last time?
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  Speaker 5: Bizarre? It was just freaking bizarre. I can't even.
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  Speaker 9: Recall when's the last time this team, with this firepower,
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  Speaker 9: this talent went that long with one shot.
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  Speaker 8: I have no idea, remember, I culdn't remember. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 8: give Vegas a lot of credit to the god. They
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  Speaker 8: were smothering and stifling, But if you're the avalanche, you
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  Speaker 8: should be able to get through that enough to manufacture something.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they couldn't do it. Well, they couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 7: And here's the thing, Like, if you played this series,
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  Speaker 7: this seven game series, ninety nine more times, I don't
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  Speaker 7: think you'd get this result. Again, I really don't. I
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  Speaker 7: think this is the only time that Vegas would sweep you.
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  Speaker 7: It's the only one. But I was talking about this
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  Speaker 7: earlier in the appetizer, and then as I'm I'm doing it,
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  Speaker 7: I stumbled across this quote from Logan O'Connor, And I
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  Speaker 7: think Logan O'Connor, who was arguably the best player consistently
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  Speaker 7: in this series, like as far as a consistent presence, hustle.
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  Speaker 8: Effort I have, I also have an idea about that,
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  Speaker 8: But keep going.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna explain to you on the backside.
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  Speaker 7: I think not only was Logan O'Connor the most consistently
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  Speaker 7: good player who gave consistent effort, toughness, all of it.
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  Speaker 7: He gave you, I think the best response from anybody
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  Speaker 7: in the AVS organization. After the game was done. He
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  Speaker 7: just asked you, or he was just asked what went wrong?
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  Speaker 5: Here's what he.
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  Speaker 7: Said, and in the span of four sentences, I think
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  Speaker 7: he nailed it. It happened fast. I think we let
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  Speaker 7: games two and three slip away from us super uncharacteristic
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  Speaker 7: from our group to give up leads like that, especially
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  Speaker 7: in consecutive games. Then we drifted away from the game plan.
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  Speaker 7: They made us pay. They were opportunistic off mistakes, and
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  Speaker 7: like I mentioned, I don't think a single guy in
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  Speaker 7: this locker room played to the standard we expect. I
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  Speaker 7: think all of the stuff that you're looking for is
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  Speaker 7: right there in that quote. Vegas was opportunistic when you weren't.
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  Speaker 7: When brock Nelson again, they do, and brock Nelson again
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  Speaker 7: last night. Mos He's wide open. It's just him and
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  Speaker 7: Carter Hart can't beat him. Vegas they get, they get
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  Speaker 7: the lot pass to Mark Stone. He's got a one
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  Speaker 7: on one with Blackwood.
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  Speaker 5: He makes them pay.
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  Speaker 7: Every single guy in the locker room didn't play to
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  Speaker 7: the standards we expect. McKinnon no goals in four games, Nay,
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  Speaker 7: just no goals in four games. Na Chushkin no goals
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  Speaker 7: in three games. Go down the list. Kadri couldn't hold
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  Speaker 7: onto the puck last night. Like it's everything.
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  Speaker 8: I'm starting though, Brett, this is I'm starting to put
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  Speaker 8: pieces together, and I'm starting to fill in the slices
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  Speaker 8: of your pie. I don't disagree with you about Logan
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  Speaker 8: O'Connor at all. But I thought to myself, well, why well,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he missed sixty five games in the regular season.
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  Speaker 5: He's only played but put about nine thirty. He's only played.
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  Speaker 8: About twenty five games this year, mos period.
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  Speaker 5: Hang on, Brett, hang on a second.
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  Speaker 7: Guy, guys on, I has played a whole bunch of games.
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  Speaker 8: I understand, But I'm talking about collectively the ADS as
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  Speaker 8: a unit.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, did did the King.
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  Speaker 8: Series to take physically more out of them than we
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  Speaker 8: realized at the time.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm trying. I'm putting my.
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  Speaker 3: Four games.
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  Speaker 9: No, okay, sorry, I mean I love you, and I
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  Speaker 9: know what you're trying to do. You're just trying to
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  Speaker 9: You're trying to find answers that perhaps there are no
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  Speaker 9: answers that.
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  Speaker 8: No, well, I mean, the flip side would be this, then, Vick,
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  Speaker 8: You're okay, the flipside would be this, that you got
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  Speaker 8: a team that set records, had the best first half
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  Speaker 8: of a regular season in the history of the game,
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  Speaker 8: was eight and one in the postseason, and they all
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  Speaker 8: just quit and laid down. Now do you believe that
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  Speaker 8: you think you think all these former Stanley Cup champions
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  Speaker 8: just quit and laid down, led by Gabe Landscog.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just telling you I here's what I saw, and
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  Speaker 9: one of the Texters noted this, and I want to
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  Speaker 9: thank you because before Game four I made mention of
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  Speaker 9: top players not performing and goalies.
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  Speaker 3: Has nothing to do with goalies. They switch goalies.
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  Speaker 9: And Blackwood was fantastic, last Ar was fantastic, has nothing
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  Speaker 9: to do with goalies.
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  Speaker 3: I retract that statement on the record.
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  Speaker 9: Steve Nelson, judge and jury of this court, please retract
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  Speaker 9: my statement about.
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  Speaker 3: Goalies instead of goalies.
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  Speaker 9: It is the lack or not lack, a lesser than
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  Speaker 9: team defense than what Vegas had.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 9: The write down help record, this not nearly as strong
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  Speaker 9: as the Vegas defense. Now there's firepower on there that defense,
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  Speaker 9: we've seen it. But in the playoffs, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 9: the team defense just wasn't there.
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  Speaker 3: Not in this series, not in this series.
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  Speaker 5: Not in this series.
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  Speaker 8: No, and outside of giving up that what six goals
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  Speaker 8: in Game one to Minnesota, the King's series, it certainly was,
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  Speaker 8: but the King's also didn't.
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  Speaker 3: They tried, They didn't actually an offense to score a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, Vick.
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  Speaker 8: But I refuse to believe overall that through nine games
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  Speaker 8: of the postseason, all of a sudden, the coach got dumb.
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  Speaker 8: Players quit, players didn't want it, players weren't good enough,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: All that they just.
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  Speaker 8: Said, screw it, you know, lazy, dumb idiot. That's not
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  Speaker 8: that's not it either.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, it kind of.
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  Speaker 8: I know people are pissed this morning. I know people
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  Speaker 8: are pissed this morning, but that ain't it either. So
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  Speaker 8: there's there's a number of things I'm sure that are
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  Speaker 8: working in conjunction with each other to have the result
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  Speaker 8: you had.
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  Speaker 7: I think it kind of might be that though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I mean I do. I don't know what. I don't
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  Speaker 7: know what else it could be, Like the easiest thing
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  Speaker 7: I can point to. They this is not quit necessarily,
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  Speaker 7: but I think you were mentally outdone's that's that's the point.
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  Speaker 9: That's that's such a great point, Brent. They didn't physically quit.
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  Speaker 9: They they hell, they scored with two minutes to play, right,
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  Speaker 9: they kept going, They kept going. They were physically into
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  Speaker 9: the game. But I think upstairs the series is over
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  Speaker 9: after Game two.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just you know, I'm a big body language guy.
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  Speaker 7: And you can tell in body language when there's slumped
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  Speaker 7: shoulders or there's like those big exhales looking up at
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  Speaker 7: the sky. There was a lot of that going on.
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  Speaker 7: And that doesn't breed like, it doesn't instill confidence. That
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  Speaker 7: is somebody who's laboring. No, totally, totally.
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  Speaker 3: The similarities.
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  Speaker 9: Are so striking between the Nuggets and the Avs. Yep,
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  Speaker 9: the Avs just happened to do it two series later,
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  Speaker 9: two series later.
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  Speaker 7: So Vic, the day that you mede, I just can't
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  Speaker 7: fathom that the day that you missed a couple of
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  Speaker 7: days ago, I told Nelly, Nelly, I don't need to
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  Speaker 7: do the show. Take the show from the Nuggets. T
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  Speaker 7: wolve series, replace the names Timberwolves with Golden Knights, and
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  Speaker 7: replaced Nuggets with Avalanche, and we're talking about the same thing.
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  Speaker 7: It just it really did happen two series later. I
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  Speaker 7: think they got beat upstairs more than anything else.
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  Speaker 9: It's the same feeling you have as a fan walking
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  Speaker 9: away too. I mean it really is for me, it is,
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  Speaker 9: And I know that the Avs had Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 3: I always had a doubt that the Nuggets would win the.
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  Speaker 9: NBA Championship because they had San Antono an OKC still
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  Speaker 9: in their way, right, I always had that lingering doubt,
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  Speaker 9: so remove that doubt from the Avs. I felt there
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  Speaker 9: was no doubt they should be Stanley Cup champions, but
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  Speaker 9: the way they face planted was the exact scene.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and I got a comparison I want to make
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  Speaker 7: because I want to see if there's a similar feeling
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  Speaker 7: this morning to something that happened close to a decade ago.
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  Speaker 7: We'll get to it in just a second. We'll take calls,
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  Speaker 7: so keep them lined up three zho three five, four
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  Speaker 7: nine to two five back after this.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, that's takes a little bit of
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  Speaker 6: time to do that. I think you know it's Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I can't really answer that right now, but I think
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  Speaker 6: that takes a little bit of time, a little reflection.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, terse postgame press conference from Jared Jared Bednar yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: We'll get more audio from him in a second. But
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  Speaker 7: let me ask I wasn't here for this, but I'm
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  Speaker 7: trying to imagine the absolute shock that we're all feeling
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  Speaker 7: this morning from a team that was seen as the
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  Speaker 7: best team in hockey the entire year, the one that
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  Speaker 7: overwhelmingly was the favorites to not just make the Stanley
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  Speaker 7: Cup Final, but to win the Stanley Cup. To end
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  Speaker 7: in the Western Conference Final in a four game sweep
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  Speaker 7: is just to me, It's an unfathomable result. And let
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  Speaker 7: me ask you something, Vic, and I think this will
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  Speaker 7: be at least a decent comparison. The shock that you
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  Speaker 7: feel this morning, is it worse slash more surprising than
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  Speaker 7: when the Broncos went into Super Bowl forty eight, one
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  Speaker 7: of the best offenses the sports ever seen, ultimate confidence
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  Speaker 7: with their ability to score.
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  Speaker 9: This is different because the Avs already proved they can
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  Speaker 9: win a cup. The Avs already played at the championship level.
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  Speaker 9: The Aves, this core, this version already climbed the mountain top.
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  Speaker 9: We knew they could do it. We saw them do it.
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  Speaker 9: That Broncos team had never done it.
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  Speaker 7: True, now, the Aves, it's been a few years since
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  Speaker 7: they've been there. But I understand your point. I think
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  Speaker 7: the biggest difference here is.
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  Speaker 3: Not the same guys. I mean, I will debate that topic.
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  Speaker 9: When the Broncos were climbing, you have to understand in Denver, all.
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  Speaker 3: We knew was disappointment.
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  Speaker 9: They got the Super Bowls and lost Super Bowls four
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  Speaker 9: of them.
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  Speaker 3: And it's all we knew. Oh boy, here we go again.
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  Speaker 3: Great team losted Jackson.
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  Speaker 5: To live Home.
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  Speaker 9: It sucked, it sucked, but all we knew was disappointment
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  Speaker 9: at the highest level until they did it. This team
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  Speaker 9: did it, so you expected it, but especially this year.
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  Speaker 7: Even Super Bowl forty eight, though, when I mean the
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  Speaker 7: first play of the game is a snap over the
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  Speaker 7: head for a safety and then everything goes downhill from there,
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  Speaker 7: I would agree with you. I think the Avs is
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  Speaker 7: worse and mos You'll give you a chance to responding
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  Speaker 7: a second. But for me, the biggest difference between Super
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  Speaker 7: Bowl forty eight and that sort of collapse when you
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  Speaker 7: had that offense that was scoring seven touchdowns a game
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  Speaker 7: and Peyton manning second setting records and all of that,
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  Speaker 7: the biggest difference is that's a bad game, and sometimes
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  Speaker 7: you get got with a bad game. It's been four
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  Speaker 7: straight and it's not that the Aves are played terrible
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  Speaker 7: over the course of four games. Like this is gonna
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  Speaker 7: sound so insane to say, but it's true. The Avs
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  Speaker 7: were competitive in this series, but it didn't feel like
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  Speaker 7: they were competitive when the game mattered most. And that's
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  Speaker 7: the big problem. When it came to crunch time, somebody's
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  Speaker 7: got to make a play to put you on top.
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  Speaker 7: You had nothing in the tank in four straight games
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  Speaker 7: in that department.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true. You also, I mentioned this. I don't
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  Speaker 8: know what day this is anymore, but when this team
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  Speaker 8: faced that punch by Vegas, that CounterPunch, they eventually got
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  Speaker 8: out of it. They eventually, did you know, They eventually
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  Speaker 8: gathered themselves and they wore themselves. Talking to mccar last
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  Speaker 8: night and he said, you know, we played our game
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  Speaker 8: a lot of this series. We were playing our game.
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  Speaker 5: It's just.
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  Speaker 8: It's just not going in. But when they did get
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  Speaker 8: punchs of times, guys, the disconnect was between here and
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  Speaker 8: here on the guys, okay, here and here, and it
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  Speaker 8: eventually got back to here.
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  Speaker 5: Good.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: But it was that disconnect that allowed Vegas to capitalize
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: and boom and and again. I go back to the
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: margins in a Western Conference final. They're incredibly slim with
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: two really good teams and a team as good as
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: the Avalanche. They didn't get blown out of anything ever.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: Nothing Well, it's just outside out, it's outside the empty netters.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Dude. There there were a goal. There's the goal behind son.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: Let me give you an example and we'll get to
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: the phones in just a second. We got these things
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: stacked up, so we'll get there in a second. But
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: to your point, Moje, I'll give you an exact moment
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: that I think sort of uh is a microcosm of
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: this series overall. In the first period, Vegas is sort
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: of buzzing around. They came out of the gates and
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: they were looking to try and throwing on you and
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: close the door immediately. And then the Aves grab a
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: little bit of momentum. And here's an example of you
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: said this earlier in the series. Motion everything just felt
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: like a tick off, like you just you just couldn't
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: quite find the right rhythm. The Avs have to tag up.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: McKinnon's got the puck on a stick. He wheels outside
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: the blue line. He turns back around and he sees
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: Kill mccarr on the right board streaking down. If he
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: hits him with the pass, it's gonna be kill mccarr
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: and Carter Hart one on one. Who's gonna win the battle? Right,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: And I'll take the odds on the car winning that one.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: If he's all alone in front of the net, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: what happens. It's just a touch too far, kind of
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: goes off the end of mccar's stick, bounces around the zone.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Vegas gets the puck wheels throws a fifty yard post
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: route straight in the air to mark Stone, and instead
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: of mccar having a one on one with Carter Hart,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: it's smarks Stone having a one on one with Mackenzie
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: Blackwood in the game shifts.
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: Let's uh, let's go down to odds. This is where
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: this is what keeps me up at night. This is
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: where last nights came back to the room and I
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: sat here, I'm watching an Angel Network and I'm making
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: myself eat the highlights and the discussion, making myself.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Eat it vic just the worst feeling.
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just making myself eat it and gut it
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: out your spoonfed. If you had to present odds on
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: which pass would execute and have the chance, it would
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: be McKinnon.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: To McCarthy yaking down the boards and not Braden.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Freaking McNab throwing a seventy foot lob pass to you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: to uh to iron feet mark Stone.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: It's like it was, I mean, admit though, dude, was
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: execution from Vegas on that for perfect pass Stone to
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: catch it sort of over the top Willie May's style,
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: throw it out in front of them. It was an
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: amazing play because because what you would expect, it would
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: be mccarda McKinnon on that pass that executes, or vice
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: versa as opposed, and then it would be the mcnabbis
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Stone that would miss, and then then it's back the
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: other way.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: It's Stone is what.
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: A play off riser. As much as we know, we
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: know what we think of Mark, I don't. This is
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: not a personal attack, So don't nobody get this confused.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: It's just a face.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Face.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: It his face, It's just his face. But what a
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: playoff riser?
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: All right, we got we got people waiting on the phone,
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: so let's get to him. We'll start off with Marie first.
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: Hi, guys, I first of all want to tell you
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: thank you so much for all you did through the season.
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: I don't get paid enough to try and figure out
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: what happened. But what I really hate is all this bashing.
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: I don't understand. We're supposed to be Avalanche fans, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: a lot of us on twitch we are Avalanche fans
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: through and through, and there's no need or place for this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: Bashing on last night in BTP was ridiculous and that's
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: all I love you, Thank you all right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Thanks Brian.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: I think that Look, you're emotional. I reserve days like
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: this if you want to be interrationally angry. I think
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: that's totally okay. It is given expectations of where this
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: team was. I mean, there's there's a bunch of things
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: that you can bash in this I don't think anybody
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: would be out of bounds. I suppose to really go
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: harden the paint, let's say, on the disappointment of how
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: this game finished. Now, let's go to Gregory next. Hi, Gregory,
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: how you doing good brother? What's going on?
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: Greg, I'm sucking right now in Vegas. Okay, I'm I'm
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: I didn't sleep last night. I can't believe what I saw.
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: That's how I'm doing. I'm gonna be blundly honest with you.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Greg, you and me both pal. I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I go back to the norma times. I was a
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: big Quebec fan, But to me, we're just not physical enough.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: They do it. Vegas is more of a physical team
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: than what we are. The only fighter we have on
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: the team is Manson and he didn't even show up.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not bashing. I love my Abs and like I said,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I have since they were in Quebec. But something's gotta change,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: all right.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: He had seven hits last night, so he's he's doing.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: He's just a piece of the puzzle. I mean, he's
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: one of the cogs, you know. I mean he's he's
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: just part of it. I could go down to all
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: these different guys and I can point Martin Nachus you know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: without go Martin. Neither one had a goal in this series,
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: which is I think this is the first series in
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: postseason history for McKinnon that he didn't have a goal
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: in that series at all in the period. End of story,
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: It's just that, again, so many things were just a
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: little off at times. I don't think there's any one reason.
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's it's not the total lack of physicality.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, when I go back and I look at
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: the Vegas and the Ducks in Vegas and the the Mammoth,
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: it wasn't. Those weren't pillow fight series. But they certainly
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: weren't brawls. They weren't everybody's bowing everybody up. And that's
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: just the Vegas Way or anything like that. It's just
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: I don't know, Guys, I don't know, and I've gone
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: through to try to look and find answer. Is the
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: best I can. I've talked to some very smart people, Vick.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: I talked to Johnny Lyles a lot last night. This
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: is a guy who was in two sweeps on the
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: wrong side, and even he was like, God, maybe do
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: they gotta get a lovely, grittier here? And this is
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: not I mean, you're now, you're this is the big
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: time autopsy and hopefully you're able to take it apart
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: and find out exactly what went wrong and be detailed
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: on it and have a game plan going forward.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: But right now, with just things, I like these calls.
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: I like hearing from other people. Frankly, I'm sick of
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: hearing from us. Do we have more Davis next? Go ahead, Dave.
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: Hey, guys, thanks for the call. I appreciate it. First,
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: big condolences to you and your family. Thank you for
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: giving us a little insight to your family. So he
• 26:26
  Speaker 11: was seeming like a wonderful man and the wonderful family,
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: So thank you for that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: The second of all, I mean, it has to fall
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: on Bednar. I mean it has to be with that
• 26:37
  Speaker 11: talent to only get one Cup in this stretch run
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: that they've had. If all this talent that they've had,
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: it has to be him. And if anybody questions why
• 26:44
  Speaker 11: it has to be him, all they have to do
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: is look at Vegas. They they thought that they were
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: going to win a Cup with their previous coach, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: they got rid of him, and now I think they're
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: going to win the Cup. I mean they what they
• 26:55
  Speaker 11: did to us, there was no no, nothing that Colorado
• 27:00
  Speaker 11: did that that counteracted what they were doing. And that
• 27:02
  Speaker 11: has to fall completely on Bednar. And I like the guy,
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: and I'm sorry that I'm saying that, but at this point,
• 27:08
  Speaker 11: there's nothing else that can mean done. Jim's the front
• 27:11
  Speaker 11: office gave him the roster flexibility, and it has to
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: fall on him. And I hate to say that, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 11: that's just the way it's got to crumble.
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: I'm not gonna quibble with you, and I know there's
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: gonna be a lot of people with that same mindset.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: You're just not going to hear that from me. I
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: don't know about these other two. I think the same.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just not going to do it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: I'm too close to the situation, and I'll admit as much.
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: He's a friend and I'm not going to put him
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: as I mean, could it be the reason? Could Could
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: he be the fall guy?
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Sure?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And I think he would understand it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: He would also have a job faster than me finishing
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: this sentence At the same time, I just I'm not
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: here to push that agenda and I won't And frankly,
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: I don't care what anybody thinks about that.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: Look, I think when it comes down to disappointing finishes
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: like this, everything's going to be on the tape and
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: everything is a fair discussion. Now, I tell you this
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: the point at John Tortorella as the reason why a
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: move like this should be made. You could point also
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: to Pete the boar in the opposite happen that team
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: didn't get better when they hired him later in the year.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: There's plenty of teams mos. Think about how many coaches
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: that Edmonton or Toronto or you pick talented team that
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: fell short went through without an improved result.
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: You make a great point because everybody points to Vegas
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: rotating coaches, just because Vegas rotates coaches as readily as
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: they do and it seems to work, doesn't mean it
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: always works for other franchises.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: Well, in all I'm saying is the easier thing to Well,
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: easier is the wrong word, because the easy thing that
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: people do is just point to the coach and say
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: that's the problem.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I look at things.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: Like, why would Marty Natchis, who's a hundred point guy,
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: have one goal through thirteen games in the postseason. How
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: is a different coach gonna help brock Nelson find the
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: back of the net when he was how many times
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: would you count motion this series? Four or five times?
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: It's him and Carter Hart right in front of each other.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I hate you got you had five fingers in your hand,
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: so a handful in. There's somewhere four or five right
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: around there. Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: I don't think a coach changes that stuff.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: I don't mean he's.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: He's he's around the net, Brett either he's got a break,
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: he's got he's got a rush in, or he's around
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: the net with the deflection with whatever, and it finds
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: the back of the back of excuse me, Carter Hart's glove.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: But but I tell you this, I don't think that anybody,
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: you know, if we got to the point, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: if news came down an hour from now that Bennar
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: was let go, would any of us be shocked by
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: it or surprised? No, I mean, this is what comes
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: with the territory. When you have a team that has
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: high expectations, somebody's got to fall on the sword. And
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: in the case of the Avs, it's a weird situation
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: they find themselves in. And the reason why is because
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: they don't really have the ability to change all that much,
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: at least on the surface. You traded away a lot
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: of draft picks to try and acquire talent to be
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: on this roster. The talent you do have on the roster,
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: a lot of them are signed long term. A lot
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: of them are signed long term as aging players, knowing
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: you're gonna take a little bit of a beating on
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: the back end of those contracts for the short term
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: success that you hope for. It's a weird spot.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: I don't think, sorry, I don't think anybody on the
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: show is going to be advocating for Bednar to go.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: But just to finish this, it's I understand where all
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: of these questions and why people would say that I
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: wouldn't brate anybody for saying it out loud because this
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: is sort of the go to in sports. My whole
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: thing is when you get a four game series where
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: you get swept and I point to your entire top
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: six outside of maybe game Landeskog and say who played
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: well well and your answer is nobody? What do you
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: do with that?
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: I totally recognize and appreciate Vegas's approach to this whole thing.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: That's a ruthless organization there, downright ruthless. Okay, perhaps if
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: this were Vegas, Jared would have been let go after
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: twenty one.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Sure, right, but then you don't win a Cup in
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: twenty two.
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: Maybe so they handle things differently they do.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Doesn't make it right. They have more.
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: They have more playoff wins in the AVS over that stretch.
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: But guess what both franchises, the cores of these teams,
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: they have the same amount of Cups.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Vic again, we go to Torts and
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna give him credit. Whatever whatever message he brought
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: has worked with this particular group for them. Okay, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: you can't just tell me it's a magic elicture for
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: every team. I mean, it's every situation is unique and
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: different here, and God blessed Torts. He won a couple
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: of the Tampa Bay Lightning in two thousand and four.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: This is twenty twenty six. You want to know what
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: he's done since then with teams. I'm talking with Tampa,
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: the Rangers, Vancouver for that tiny period of time, Columbus
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: and Philadelphia. Here's what he's done, and then we'll get
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: the break. Brett, you're ready. One in two thousand and four,
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: next year, lost in quarterfinals, lost in quarterfinals, miss playoff,
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: lost in quarter finals, missed playoffs, lost in conference final. Well, sorry,
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: lost in quarter finals, lost the conference final, lost in
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: semi final, missed, missed, lost first round, lost first round,
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: lost second round, lost first round. I mean, and then
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: in Philly missed, miss missed, fired. Okay, So what magical
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: lickxure did the great John Tortorella bring into the Vegas
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: Golden Knights to have them go eighteen four and one
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: under his stewardship since he took over and would have
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: worked with the Avalanche two.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, things are unexplainable, man.
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: Well, yeah, but people don't want to hear that today,
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: victim sign But people don't want to hear it. They say,
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: go cope, your good, you know, go go stuff copium
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: up your up your tail pipe.
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: Well it's modern sports talk, though, I mean modern sports
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: talk is pithy response. I know, but I'm just anger.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: And that's fine. That's fine. Everybody deals with it differently.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Now we got people in our own little family here,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: twitch and YouTube.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: All the people deal with this kind of stuff so differently.
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: Some people go into rage, some people want to fire everybody.
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: Some people play the role of cheerleader. Everything's fine, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: everybody has a different feeling. And that's okay, man, that's
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: the beauty of sports talk.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: It's okay. It's not real, guys, This isn't real.
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: But the complicated nature of this is evidence to the
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: fact that you really, all the all the top nine,
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: all but one or two Top nine had the kind
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: of series they had. Why, well, it's just there's not
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: one thing you can say, you know what, this is
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: exactly why they these four gate, these four tight games
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: in this series. You lost every one of them. There's
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: no single answer, bros.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Isn't your answer.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: I heard them talking to Mark Stone after the game,
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: and this was right after the game got done. They
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: did the handshake line, and it was Emily Kaplan talking
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: to Stone and she's she asked him, what did Portorella
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: bring to this team?
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: He didn't say that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: We picked up an entirely new scheme and he game
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: planned the hell out of it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: You know what he said.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: It's that intangible stuff. It's oh, he brought energy or
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: he did that's that's not being out schemed. Over the
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: course of four games, now a lot more to talk about.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: They found they found a vibe. They were already a
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: good team that was underachieving and screwing off. I mean,
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: they hadn't beaten a playoff team in months. They they
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: found there. They were already a good team that needed
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: a little bit different guidance, and they found a vibe
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: and they're on that vibe.
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: If this or organization sees fit and needs to make
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: Jared Bednar the fall guy, he will have a job
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: before the next commercial break.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I don't doubt that one bit. I'm just not going
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: to advocate for that. Yeah, I will do it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: So three oh three, five, four oh nine, two five
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: a lot more to get two earstagram again. It is
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: a shocking sort of reaction this morning that this is
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: the result you got given a wealth of evidence throughout
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: the regular season that would have told you the opposite
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: of this. There is one thing that some people are
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: bringing up about power play being unproductive, and I would agree,
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: like that's been pretty disappointing virtually virtually all year. Can
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: I tell you why it's not bothering me too much
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: this morning? Last year, Moje, I think you could have
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: pointed to the Dallas series and said, the reason you
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: lost that series is because special Teams wasn't go and
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: that became a gigantic issue. And is it disappointing that
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: it didn't get any better this year?
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: But the reason why I'm not freaking about the power playing, I.
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: Mean it did get better. I mean it did get better,
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: but this series was tough. Go ahead, I'm sorry.
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: It was better for the last month and a half,
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: fish until the postseason rolled around, Like it wasn't great
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: against LA either. But the whole point of this is,
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: I'm not obsessing over the power play out of all
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: the other things we could discuss this morning, because the
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: power play not being effective was not out of character
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: from what I witnessed this year. That would have been
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: on par what is out of character is you got
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: beat up five on five. That's what's bothering me. You
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: were the best team, even strength in hockey the entire season,
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: and in this series, Vegas, why a lot, Vegas was
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: much better than you in that category. That's what's bothering me.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: It's not bothering, it's baffling. Baffling. Yes, it's baffling that
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: they could fall.
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: Off that cliff so readily, so quickly, an area that
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: they dominated all season. The inability to keep possession was
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: baffling in this series, right, how many times did we
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: see it? The Avs get the puck in zone and
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: it's out in mere seconds.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's the I mean, yeah, you didn't win
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: this battle. You didn't win that battle.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: It just became habit over the course of this particular
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: series where you just couldn't get any They're forcing you
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: to dump it. They're taken away the middle of the ice,
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: They're forcing you to dump it in, carry it down
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: the boards.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: You lose it. It's right back the other way.
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: There was just that jam was not there, that consistent
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: jam and consistent threat.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: No year. I mean, in the time that you did convert,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: you have a three to nothing lead Vegas has a fit.
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: After the first period, they come on out pot of
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: power play goal and then they got all the mojo
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: back in the span of twenty seconds. Twenty seconds, they
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: got it everything that they had lost in that first
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: period of Game three.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: They got it all back. Why is that? Why'd you
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: allow them to have that back? Well, that's what logan,
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: How did they get it back?
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: That's what you let the team today do? Do you
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: fly back with the team.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: No, the team is leaving, but way before I am
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: okay because I need to do this program.
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: Oh you act like it's oh sorry, sorry to put
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: you out our bad everybody? Can you please, can everybody
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: just send Moser a give a pat on the back
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: for working this morning?
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Are bad? I'm sorry. I will look, I'm a regular folk.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: I will remind you that coming back from Minnesota, because
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: they did the same thing. The girl in my row
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: took her shoes off and stuffed her feet into the
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: seat back put it in front of her.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: It's what you get for taking your shoes off in
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: our studio. I mean, we've gone through We've already talked
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: about this.
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: You know what I hope today I hope I get
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: on that airplane, and I hope there's a baby in
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: my isle and it barfs on me.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: That'd be just a fitting, a fitting, frigging into this
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: friggin series.
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: Let's get to another call here. Dean's been waiting patiently.
• 39:28
  Speaker 12: Go ahead, Dean, Guys, I was first wanting to jump
• 39:33
  Speaker 12: all over beds, but I guess I've been thinking about it,
• 39:37
  Speaker 12: and you guys have me going to another direction. I mean,
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: Chris McFarland's put this team together. How much of the
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: problem is he?
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what's funny.
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: We talked about the team when it was put together,
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: and we thought it was the greatest roster. I mean,
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: it's the same thing with the with the Nuggets, right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: I guess it's in the eye of the behold. When
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: the team is assembled, when that is this called or
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: still on? I'm sorry I called your op there, Okay,
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: Because what I want to ask is, when the team
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: was assembled at the trade deadline, when it was finalized
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: and polished up, what did you think about the roster?
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Then?
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: What did you think about the roster leading into this
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: Western Conference final? What did everybody think of the roster?
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: Everybody said the same thing. It's a Wegan.
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: I'm begging. I'm begging people, begging on my hands and knees, begging.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: Do not pretend what you felt in thought from weeks
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: ago does not apply to right now. For example, when
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: I talk about the Russell Wilson trade and I tell you,
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to hold that against George Peyton because
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: I would have done the same thing. It's in the
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: respect of fairness. I'm going to tell you what I
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: think of Chris McFarlane. I think that man did everything
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: humanly possible to put a Stanley Cup team on the ice,
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: and I think I want every team to operate in
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: the manner that Chris McFarlane did. Damn the future. Get
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: rid of the assets, sign guys to long term deals,
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: knowing you're gonna take a little bit of a punishment
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: on the back end of it because we're trying to
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: win a Cup now. The way that he operated is
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: exactly how I want my GM to operate. Push my
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: chips to the middle of the table, get me a
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: title now, Damn the future. I'm not going to hold
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: that against him just because it didn't work. I want
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: my guy to take hacks, and you know what, if
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: you end up swinging and missing and walking back to
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: the dogout, So be it take the swing.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: But they've hit on so much a dean when you
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: look at this roster and stuff for Chris McFarland, Today's Wednesday,
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: until last Wednesday, it's freaking great. Yeah, until last Wednesday
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: was freaking and awesome. Would you do the Kulak trade again?
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Sure?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I would. I would do everything he did?
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, why would you? Would you would you try to
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: go get Cadri again? Yeah?
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: You think?
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: I mean we would you do a mini parade when
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: they acquired Cadri?
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: Would you go and acquire a former Stanley Cup champion
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: Nicholas Waugh for what we gave up?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: That would work? Sure?
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean he didn't do anything wrong.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: Again, we're we're all wanting to cast the blame on on.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: This that this that.
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: It's it's the margins are just so thin. It's it's
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: and it's it's inexplicable. It is to not pull a
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: game out of this series at all. It seems almost
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: impossible when I sent you guys the numbers, the analytical data, right,
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: and analytics aren't everything, but they can be helpful well
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: for my argument's sake. When you look at the analytics
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: even five on five and O zone possession time and
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: and all these different things. Dude, the apps in this
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: series they little almost every category. They led so many
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: different categories except the frigging scoreboard, which is insane. Bro Brett,
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: You're right. You could play this ninety nine more times.
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: And I'm telling you this series is not gonna look
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: like it did. And the one we just experienced and
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: went through it's inexplicable. And and somebody says a four
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: zero series sweep is not a finn margin. I'm gonna
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: keep my cool today.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah it is. You're on the wrong side of a
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: finn margin every friggin game. That's where you.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I like these calls. How many more calls? I'll go
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: full calls today if you guys want.
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: We got a billion of them. Look, we're gonna mix
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: these in as we go along.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I want more calls than I want.
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: You you're gonna get You're gonna get you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: Why don't you give out your private cell phone number
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: and go in your bathroom and play tickle fight with
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: yourself and lending and everybody else call you?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: But we never take this many calls.
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: It's always us just blabbing back and forth, and you
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: going on these tangents.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: I want to hear from fans We're going.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: To do more.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: Trust me, we are. I do want to mix in
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: a text though that says for five straight years, physicality
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: has beaten speed, and he said that is what's on McFarlane.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: I would argue to you, you brought in Brent Burns,
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: you brought in Brett Koulak, you brought in Nick Waugh.
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: Those are big physical guys, but you still have to
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: keep to your style, which is speed. Sometimes when things
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: like this happen and I'm with you, moj despite a sweep,
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: and this is gonna sound stupid to say out loud
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: because somebody's just gonna point to the scoreboard and I'm like, okay, fine,
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: I get it. It really did feel like if you
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: got something, if you got something in a big moment,
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: this forget the game. This series could shift. If brock
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: Nelson puts two three of his prime opportunities he's had
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: in this series in the back of the net. I
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: think that changes a lot. If you go back to
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: Game one, Logan O'Connor doesn't ring that off the post,
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: I think that changes a lot of stuff, but it
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: was the avs inability to snatch momentum back in their
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: favor and then hold it. It felt like any time
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: Vegas had a chance to capitalize on something, they did
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: and then mentally you'd go into a shell. And that
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: just is so uncharacteristic of the team that I watched
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: all year. The team that was down three to nothing
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: against Minnesota, the team that had a three to zero
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: lead in Game one against Minnesota and gave that up
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: only to snatch it right back. It was just it
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: was such a bizarre watch from what we've witnessed through,
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, months of that of hockey. So three oh
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: three five O four O nine two five, it's the
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: more your causes we go along. Stackgram