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Chlamydia and Weaponized Incompetence · Mom Wars

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Speaker 1: From the front lines of the mom Wars. Here's Bethany
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Speaker 1: Mandel and Kara Kennedy.
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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to your second official episode of
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Speaker 2: the mom Wards podcast. Apologies that we mean to be weekly,
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Speaker 2: we really do, but we're also moms and sometimes life happens,
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Speaker 2: so our apologies forgetting this podcast to you a week late.
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Speaker 2: But we aspire to be better in the future, but
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Speaker 2: know our limitations. I am beth Best, Yeah whatever, I'm
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Speaker 2: Bethany Mandel, the American podcaster on this on this podcast,
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Speaker 2: and you are ma'am Mariic Kennedy.
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Speaker 3: And I feel like I'm going to use this as
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Speaker 3: my therapy sassion because I'm so irritated today. Oh no, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I don't want with me.
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Speaker 2: I am too, so let's discuss. So, because I'm a narcissist,
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Speaker 2: only child will start with me.
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Speaker 3: I'm also known child.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but are you a narcissm Yeah, you have to be.
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Speaker 2: If you're an only child, you have to be a narcisses.
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Speaker 3: Somebody told me I don't have only child energy the
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Speaker 3: other day, which is like a very nice compliment.
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Speaker 2: It is, yeah, because only children were not good. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're not good people. So I went with my six
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Speaker 2: children aged eleven to two to Great Wolf Lodge last night.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of this place?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 2: God? So it's an indoor water park theme.
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Speaker 3: Park that sounds amazing.
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Speaker 2: It is a lot, so it's huge. It's really really big,
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Speaker 2: and there's we're gonna get a lot of like messages
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Speaker 2: and comments in after we publish on this because it's
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Speaker 2: like a thing that people wear, like these fake wolf ears,
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Speaker 2: like their furries, and there's like a wand thing that
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Speaker 2: I didn't totally understand where you it's like a magic
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Speaker 2: quest and there was all these different kinds I didn't understand,
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Speaker 2: and then there was a water park, and then there's
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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other activities that they just basically
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Speaker 2: bleed you dry. So we were there on like a
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Speaker 2: homeschool deal. We only we it was like super cheap.
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Speaker 2: It was one hundred and seventy five dollars for like
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Speaker 2: the biggest room, which we need because there's seven of us.
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Speaker 2: I went alone, although we do you hate yourself?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Basically, so my daughter's best friend moved far away and
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Speaker 2: this Great Wolf Lodge is a midway point for our
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Speaker 2: families and so that's nice. Yeah, And so they have
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Speaker 2: very similar kids ages, and our kids are a lot
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Speaker 2: of them are best friends, Like my third is best
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Speaker 2: friends with her fourth, and so yeah, it was quite
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Speaker 2: the experience. We didn't get to bed. I mean, my
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Speaker 2: two year old got very excited that he was sharing
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Speaker 2: room with most of his siblings, and so he was
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Speaker 2: up a lot talking to them, asking them for cookies.
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Speaker 2: We don't have cookies. We did not have cookies all night,
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Speaker 2: but he woke up in the middle of the night
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Speaker 2: cookie cookie and the five year old was crying. She's like, no,
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Speaker 2: there's no cookies, just let me sleep.
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Speaker 3: Wait, so what happens when you take them? Do you
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Speaker 3: get one hotel room? And they all kind of bunk here?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had like they had bunk beds, and
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Speaker 2: so three kids. Two kids were in a bunk bed,
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Speaker 2: one kid was in a single my daughter and her.
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Speaker 2: So I actually had seven children in my room last
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Speaker 2: night because my daughter shared a bed with her best friend.
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Speaker 2: And then it was like a pull out couch, and
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Speaker 2: then my three year old slept in the bed on
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Speaker 2: top of me, and then the two year old slept
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Speaker 2: in a pack and play also, so yeah, it was
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Speaker 2: me and seven children and then so our friends were
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Speaker 2: across the hall and so and there. As her kids
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Speaker 2: were waking up, they wandered over and so at one
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Speaker 2: point I had like nine kids in the room just
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Speaker 2: giving all of them breakfast. It was great. It was
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Speaker 2: really fun. Yeah, it was. It was an experience. So
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Speaker 2: the water park, it's pretty stressful when you have so
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Speaker 2: many little kids. So my older four kids are swimmers.
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Speaker 2: I will say this about Great Wolf. They took water
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Speaker 2: safety as seriously as should they should have. They had
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Speaker 2: so many lifeguards paying like super super close attention, and
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Speaker 2: they all you could tell, had their like quadrants of
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Speaker 2: like the wavepool or whatever. And they took it very,
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Speaker 2: very seriously, and I was very glad. So my older
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Speaker 2: four kids are strong swimmers and my younger two or not,
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Speaker 2: but I only had two kids to really watch like cocks.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was I think they So we have
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Speaker 2: like these wrist bands and they get you. You can
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Speaker 2: pay for things, which is how they get you. Although
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Speaker 2: when you keep kosher, it's actually very well.
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Speaker 3: The kids can pay for things themselves.
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Speaker 2: They gave me that option and I was.
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Speaker 3: Like, absolutely, that's a dumb yeah.
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Speaker 2: But it can get into your room. And one smart
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Speaker 2: thing I realized at like nine thirty when they were
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Speaker 2: walking through the staff members were walking through the halls,
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Speaker 2: every single person in our party had this wristband on
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Speaker 2: and they can scan it and see who the kid
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Speaker 2: belongs to.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great, brilliant.
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Speaker 2: So that was good. But yeah, no, it was. It
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Speaker 2: was exhausting and everyone was cold and miserable and exhausted
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Speaker 2: by today. So we when we were swimming all day
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Speaker 2: yesterday on all day, but like a significant portion, and
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Speaker 2: then and then we woke up this morning and went
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Speaker 2: back at it, and I was we were all done
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Speaker 2: by like by checkout at ten eleven am. We were
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Speaker 2: all ready to leave, and we had planned to stay
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Speaker 2: after lunch, and I was like, I think we all
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Speaker 2: need to go now. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'm not a swimmer, so I don't know who is
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Speaker 3: going to teach the baby. Nick loves swim swimming, so
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Speaker 3: it's gonna have to be him. But I just like
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Speaker 3: to like sit by a pool unchill.
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Speaker 2: So we don't swim lessons. I strongly recommend swim lessons. Actually,
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Speaker 2: I mind.
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Speaker 3: You do it with newborns. You know in the video
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Speaker 3: where they like dunk the new.
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Speaker 2: Bag and then I don't I don't love that, but
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Speaker 2: it works very very well. Megan McCain. Yeah, okay, I
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Speaker 2: my two year old. So my third kid almost drowned
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Speaker 2: actually at our like local swim club. I had my
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Speaker 2: head turned and I'm actually like a psycho swim person,
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Speaker 2: like a school safety person, and I had my head
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Speaker 2: turned and I turned back. And I had a newborn
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Speaker 2: at the time, my fourth was a newborn, and then
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Speaker 2: I had two kids in the pool and I couldn't
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Speaker 2: swim because I had just had a baby, and I
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Speaker 2: he had been playing on the playground and I turned
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Speaker 2: and I looked at the playground and I didn't see him,
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Speaker 2: and so I was like, I'm just gonna check the pool.
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Speaker 2: And I like I count off whenever I'm near a
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Speaker 2: pool with kids, I count every thirty seconds or so.
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Speaker 2: And so I didn't see him in the playground. I
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Speaker 2: was like, I'm just gonna check the pool because I'm
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Speaker 2: a psycho. And I stood up and I like waddled
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Speaker 2: over because I like literally had just had a baby,
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Speaker 2: and he was at the bottom of the pool, and
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Speaker 2: I like kind of dove in. I was able to.
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Speaker 2: I didn't have to jump in, but I you know,
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Speaker 2: my head went under and I ground him and I
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Speaker 2: pulled him out and it was really, it was like
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Speaker 2: one of the hardest It was the one of the
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Speaker 2: worst parenting moments of my life. And he was still conscious,
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Speaker 2: so he really he wasn't underwater that long. And the
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Speaker 2: lifeguard this was like at our local swim club, where like,
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Speaker 2: it's not we're not getting the best here. And the
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Speaker 2: lifeguard was so embarrassed about not having noticed because they
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Speaker 2: had a line of sight on him at the bottom
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Speaker 2: of the pool. I did not, like he went right
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Speaker 2: over the lip and I didn't have sight, but they
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Speaker 2: had perfect sight and should have seen him at the
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Speaker 2: bottom of the pool and did it. And there was
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Speaker 2: no one else in the pool. And so I'm sitting
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Speaker 2: on the pool deck screaming, like and there's no one
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Speaker 2: in the pool, crying, slamming his back and I had
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Speaker 2: my phone in my back pocket and I pulled it
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Speaker 2: out and I called my pediatrician, screaming. When the receptionist
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Speaker 2: heard my voice, she's like, I'm going to transfer you
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Speaker 2: right to a doctor. Oh my god, And she hands
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Speaker 2: the phone to the doctor in the office and the
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Speaker 2: doctor is doing breathing exercises for me and she's like,
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Speaker 2: take deep breaths, Take deep breaths, Tell me what happened.
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Speaker 2: Take a deep breath, blow out your nose. And I
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Speaker 2: tell her what happened. And she was like, if he's
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Speaker 2: conscious and he's coughing, I can hear him. He was
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Speaker 2: not in the water that long. You're okay, He's okay.
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Speaker 2: And I like reported it to the county, like, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was going to.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the knifeguard never came over to me.
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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, what he didn't even pon it. Oh
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Speaker 3: my god.
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Speaker 2: And the pool so like a couple of weeks later,
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Speaker 2: the pool posted in there like facebook group that they
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Speaker 2: were having like member retention issues and I had emailed
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Speaker 2: them right when it happened and told them the whole story,
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Speaker 2: and then nobody ever replied, and so I commented on
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Speaker 2: the thread and I said, well, if a member emails
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Speaker 2: you and says that their child almost drowned and doesn't
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Speaker 2: they don't get a reply back, that might impact their
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Speaker 2: decision to remain members. They never went back after that, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and we never did Like that was it. And the
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Speaker 2: pool president the next day posted just a reminder for
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Speaker 2: our members that your children are your responsibility. And I
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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that was not a good Yeah, but
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Speaker 2: but you're legally responsible to have a lifeguard on duty
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Speaker 2: who's paying attention.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not enough.
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Speaker 2: I was paying attention. That's why my kid isn't dead.
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Speaker 2: So but anyway, I'm a psycho about pool safety, thank god.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it was so Now now I don't
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Speaker 2: know if I can blame it. I'm great wolf, but
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Speaker 2: I might be able to. Three of my kids have fevers,
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Speaker 2: so I don't know if that's it.
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Speaker 3: Well, do they have any any other other symptoms?
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Speaker 2: No, they say they have headaches and they're tired, which
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Speaker 2: like obviously.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe ear infections, that's what one of them said.
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Speaker 2: One of them said, hurt, ear hurt, And I was like,
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Speaker 2: you were swimming under a petri dish. Can I tell
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Speaker 2: you a gross story I've.
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Speaker 3: Been talking about on this podcast.
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Speaker 2: Can I tell you and then and then I'm going
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Speaker 2: to stop talking.
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Speaker 3: It's fine, I just want to sit here and listen. Anyway.
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Speaker 2: This I told you, this is my therapy. Okay, so
10:28
Speaker 2: here I'm supposed to be the one talking. I know,
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Speaker 2: I know, but let me tell you a gross story
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Speaker 2: and then I'm going to stop talking. I have to
10:36
Speaker 2: bring out my best stories for the second podcast to
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Speaker 2: like keep people on. Yeah, So I went to a
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Speaker 2: bath house in Budapest once, I would like went to
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Speaker 2: Budapest for my birthday and I went to a bathhouse
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Speaker 2: because people in my hostel said they were going and
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Speaker 2: I was like, that sounds like fun, and I put
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Speaker 2: my head underwater. It was a rave. It was a
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Speaker 2: bathhouse rave. This one was like all night long. It
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Speaker 2: was so cool. No, it was amazing. It was like
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Speaker 2: one of the coolest nights of my life. Yeah, it
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Speaker 2: was really really neat, but I like swam. And then
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Speaker 2: I came home and I had pink eye and I called, like,
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Speaker 2: whoever was my I don't know, and I was like,
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Speaker 2: I have pink eye, and so they prescribed me eye
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Speaker 2: drops and that didn't go away. So I made an
11:22
Speaker 2: appointment at like an eye doctor, an optometrist, and I
11:25
Speaker 2: told him, you know, what happened and then what I
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Speaker 2: was prescribed, and he's like, I'm gonna take a sample
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Speaker 2: from your eye and I was like, I'm sorry what
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Speaker 2: And he did just like a very gentle swab, like
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Speaker 2: it was very gentle, and he put it under the
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Speaker 2: microscope and he came back out and he was like
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Speaker 2: super German and he was like, you have something. It
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Speaker 2: is not a virus, it is not a bacteria. It
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Speaker 2: just called chlamydia. I was like, I'm sorry, what no
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Speaker 2: lamidia in your eye? And I had to buy like
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Speaker 2: I had to buy like ninety dollars eye drops to
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Speaker 2: get rid of the chlamydia and my eye.
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Speaker 3: Wait, I didn't even know that that was. That sounds
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Speaker 3: like something you make up when you get chamydia.
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Speaker 2: So this is so funny. So then like years and
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Speaker 2: years later, it showed up on my blood work and
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Speaker 2: my doctor was like, you need to tell your husband
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Speaker 2: because he needs to be tested. And I was like,
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, how do I tell my husband that I
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Speaker 2: have chlymythia? And he was like, I mean he's met you,
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Speaker 2: he probably knows. It's the story, right. I'm like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: the story is very Bethany famous lore. And he was like,
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Speaker 2: so tell him that the eyedrops didn't get rid of
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Speaker 2: it and it's still in your bloodstream. And so Seth
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Speaker 2: did not have chamydia because it was not like it
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Speaker 2: was not sexually transmittable. It was in my blood stream.
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Speaker 2: But as a result to be like careful, but I
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Speaker 2: think safe I did, like at a round of like
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Speaker 2: super heavy duty antibiotics, and it seems to have gotten
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Speaker 2: rid of it. But whenever I have a baby, my
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Speaker 2: midwife says like, you don't have to get the eye drops.
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Speaker 2: It's only like if you have STDs. And I was like, well,
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Speaker 2: let's just let's just just in case. And I always
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Speaker 2: even within even with the home birth, and like maybe
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Speaker 2: wives are like whatever, this is stupid. I'm like, no,
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Speaker 2: I think it's I think we probably should do the
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Speaker 2: ede drops.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, now everyone knows about my chlamydia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if a kid is born with chamydia, can they
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Speaker 3: get rid of it or do they have like like
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Speaker 3: lifelong committia.
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Speaker 2: No, so they it's eye drops because if it gets
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Speaker 2: in their eyes it can blind them.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: And so it's like a er erythromyacin like thing that
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Speaker 2: they put on their eyes. But if the mom has
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Speaker 2: chlamydia and they get it from mom vaginally, they can
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Speaker 2: go blind.
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Speaker 3: Terrifying.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I was like I said to the
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Speaker 2: eye drops, well, most people do because like why would
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Speaker 2: you like semi blind baby on their way out the gate?
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Speaker 2: But if they had chlamydia, then yeah, probably do it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's terribout. That was like the one crunchy thing
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Speaker 3: I did. I was like, no, hye drops, and I
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Speaker 3: felt like really liberated because Instagram told me that I
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Speaker 3: should liberate myself.
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Speaker 2: So Instagram also tells me I should liberate myself. And
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Speaker 2: that was the one non crunchy thing I did. Was
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Speaker 2: and even I had to like go and like buy
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Speaker 2: the eye drops. And my my midwife was like, I've
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Speaker 2: never had someone's proactively seek out the eye drops at all,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know how to do it. And I
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Speaker 2: was like, right, but have you ever had a patient
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Speaker 2: with chlamydia?
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Speaker 3: No, so I know how committee are in school. It's time.
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Speaker 2: Really Yeah, I mean I don't have it anymore. I
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Speaker 2: don't think I have it anymore, but I don't want
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Speaker 2: to be I don't. That's not something I'm going to
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Speaker 2: tangle with. I'll just get the out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: How's Daphne feeling?
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Speaker 3: Daphne is, she's kind of crazy to She was really
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Speaker 3: good last week and I was like, she's five months
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Speaker 3: five months old, We've turned a corner. Everything's fine, and
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Speaker 3: now she seems to be three months old again?
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Speaker 2: In what way?
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Speaker 3: She's just very unhappy today?
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Speaker 2: Is she teething?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I made my mom shit me this special
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Speaker 3: teething powder. Nick calls her baby cocaine. Yeah, why don't
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Speaker 3: you just like it. It's just like powder all over
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Speaker 3: the side of the table.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: No, it's great. It's really good. It's like it's it.
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Speaker 2: Maybe is cocaine.
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Speaker 3: No, it's like natural. It's like all natural ingredients. It's
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Speaker 3: like like herb all. But it's great. And I used
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Speaker 3: it when I was a baby, and I used it
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Speaker 3: when my wisdom teeth came through. So I made her
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Speaker 3: ship me like a load because they don't sell it here.
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Speaker 2: Interesting. Did you just like try to freeze a washcloth
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Speaker 2: call it a day?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a bit like I don't know that
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Speaker 3: just doesn't that just like not enough?
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Speaker 2: If it's too easy for you, you have to slip something
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Speaker 2: from across the ocean.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it seems like I don't know, I'm doing
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Speaker 3: the boogie one. Anyway, she and she was miserable all
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Speaker 3: day and then I forgot that I had this stuff.
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Speaker 3: And then I went to and gett and I got
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Speaker 3: the powder and rupted on her gums and she was fine.
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Speaker 2: So have you tried like brandy or something?
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Speaker 3: No, that that is I think it's too much. My
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Speaker 3: mom says stuff like, oh I used to give you
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Speaker 3: blah blah. Yeah, and I'm that's fun really.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do it. So I will say none of my
17:39
Speaker 2: kids really had problems with teething, except for the eighteen
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Speaker 2: month molers, and that is when I often had My
17:47
Speaker 2: next baby was right when there's water coming in. It
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Speaker 2: was alawful.
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Speaker 3: So Daphne's mole is to come in through a first
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Speaker 3: what Yeah, I know, and everybody is like, that can't
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Speaker 3: be true. And I've I've made like people feel and
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Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, you're right, that's weird, like crazy, that's
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Speaker 3: really weird. She's like in a lot of pain, which
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Speaker 3: makes sense.
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Speaker 2: I know, it's really there was no joke. They're really
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Speaker 2: really painful.
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Speaker 3: And she has like sweet teeth coming through right now.
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Speaker 3: But the first one that started like broke skin was emola. Yeah, strange.
18:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder she's miserable. Those are really really hard.
18:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why, like legit even.
18:30
Speaker 2: A friend whose baby was born with teeth.
18:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
18:35
Speaker 2: And it looked like a demon was it?
18:39
Speaker 3: How many weeks pregnant was she when she gave birth?
18:42
Speaker 2: Normal amount thirty nine forty forty one?
18:45
Speaker 3: Crazy?
18:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really creepy. It looked like a demon baby.
18:48
Speaker 2: I've never met a newborn that I didn't like until
18:51
Speaker 2: this baby.
18:51
Speaker 3: And was like, is she gonna listen to this?
18:56
Speaker 2: I hope not. She'd admit it. She has like seven kids,
19:00
Speaker 2: so I think, oh, now I've totally nat. He's going
19:03
Speaker 2: to know who I'm talking about. How many friends do
19:05
Speaker 2: I have.
19:05
Speaker 3: With seven kids? Probably not? How big was your biggest baby,
19:10
Speaker 3: because my contractor just had a baby, which was eleven pounds,
19:18
Speaker 3: ten pounds two ounces, hand pounds two okay, okay, so
19:23
Speaker 3: I really big.
19:25
Speaker 2: It's too big. I think I had stational diabetes a
19:28
Speaker 2: couple times. My worst birth, though, was my smallest baby.
19:33
Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, because she had her hands on her
19:35
Speaker 2: face like the little princess that she thinks she is,
19:39
Speaker 2: and she just sat in my vagina.
19:43
Speaker 3: Well, I think you said that this was the back labor.
19:46
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that was awful. That was awful.
19:48
Speaker 2: I'm zero stars. Do not recommend. I actually have a
19:52
Speaker 2: voice memo of me saying that to my friends in transition.
19:57
Speaker 2: Zero stars do not recommend. I think I did I
19:59
Speaker 2: forward you that ones?
20:00
Speaker 3: Yeah?
20:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's real. Yeah no, So that was my
20:04
Speaker 2: hardest one, although I will say so, my my sixth
20:07
Speaker 2: was ten pounds two ounces, and then My fifth was
20:11
Speaker 2: just shy of ten pounds. I don't remember how big.
20:13
Speaker 2: I think it's like nine to fourteen nine pounds fourteen ounces.
20:16
Speaker 3: Was seven pounds seven ounces, and I think that was perfect. Yeah, perfect.
20:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I want to take a moment to talk
20:26
Speaker 2: about Elon Musk's situation because there's been developments and much
20:31
Speaker 2: going on, I know. So can you catch me up
20:34
Speaker 2: because I feel like I've not been paying enough attention
20:37
Speaker 2: the last two days because of all my great wolf
20:40
Speaker 2: logic stravaganza.
20:42
Speaker 3: He's had a fourth kid with whatever her name is,
20:47
Speaker 3: von On. Yeah that sounds right, something like that. So
20:51
Speaker 3: she announced they've had a fourth kid together called something
20:55
Speaker 3: We're DAGs. I can't remember.
20:57
Speaker 2: So there's been rumors that this is why Ashley sing
21:00
Speaker 2: Claire announced that she had his baby, because she went
21:04
Speaker 2: kind of crazy.
21:05
Speaker 3: With the Yeah that makes sense, yeah, that he had
21:08
Speaker 3: a mild Yeah yeah, Selden, but yeah, I would go crazy.
21:15
Speaker 3: I mean, he obviously has favorites and that is like, yeah,
21:18
Speaker 3: it's messed up thing about this because he takes one
21:22
Speaker 3: baby into the White House all the time, and then
21:25
Speaker 3: he's always with these kids from this woman who works
21:30
Speaker 3: for Newer Link and I think she is one of
21:33
Speaker 3: the ones that lives on like the compound.
21:36
Speaker 2: I was just about to say this feels I mean
21:38
Speaker 2: it comes back to this is Big Love. Yeah, he's
21:42
Speaker 2: trying to build a big love compound. Did you watch
21:45
Speaker 2: that show, by the way, or are you too young?
21:47
Speaker 2: He might be too young? Do you even know the reference? Yeah,
21:52
Speaker 2: I've heard are you sure about that?
21:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard other people say it, but I was, yeah, don't.
22:00
Speaker 2: Okay, so fine, you can just admit it. You're a
22:03
Speaker 2: little wee baby. How old are you twenty two, twenty three,
22:06
Speaker 2: four ths, oh, twenty six? Or girl? Okay, you were
22:11
Speaker 2: born in the nineties?
22:12
Speaker 3: It was one in ninety eight? Oh god, ninety eighty yeah,
22:16
Speaker 3: Jesus crazy.
22:18
Speaker 2: Okay ninety eight wow old, Okay, I'm just gonna move on.
22:23
Speaker 2: So Big Love was a show back when we had TVs.
22:27
Speaker 2: Not like we didn't like watch things on computers.
22:30
Speaker 3: I'm just being I'm being behind twenty maybe.
22:37
Speaker 2: So it was a show about a plagamist who had
22:41
Speaker 2: multiple wives, and he too had favorites and and it
22:48
Speaker 2: was about like all of the interplay between all of
22:50
Speaker 2: his wives. I think he had three and then at
22:53
Speaker 2: one point. I think he had four. But it was
22:55
Speaker 2: a great show. Jennifer Goodwin was in it. She was
22:58
Speaker 2: kind of like the leading lady of the of the
23:00
Speaker 2: wives who's turned into like the super zionist person who
23:04
Speaker 2: I like very much, and and it was just it
23:07
Speaker 2: was really fascinating watching the sister wives compete for attention
23:13
Speaker 2: but also like helping each other out. Like there were
23:16
Speaker 2: some points where you watch it and you'd think I
23:19
Speaker 2: could go for a sister wife.
23:20
Speaker 3: I would not be helping anybody. I would be so competitive.
23:23
Speaker 3: I would be like, take this bitch down.
23:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, me too. I have gone. I sometimes
23:31
Speaker 2: go on vacations with friends, like I just did. Actually,
23:33
Speaker 2: but I love going on vacations with friends and pretending
23:37
Speaker 2: that we're sister wives though, but minus sleeping with the
23:40
Speaker 2: same man. Yeah, I really enjoy that component of the
23:44
Speaker 2: sister wiving is like divide and conquer. I can see
23:48
Speaker 2: the allure of that. I really like when you like,
23:55
Speaker 2: vibe very well with a friend and you can just
23:57
Speaker 2: walk into a hotel room and like no words have
24:00
Speaker 2: to be exchanged. Mary Katharine Hammy and I have this down.
24:03
Speaker 2: Whenever we used to go on vacation together, a lot
24:05
Speaker 2: before she got remarried, because Seth hate's going on vacation
24:08
Speaker 2: with all of our children, and I love going on vacation,
24:11
Speaker 2: And so after her husband died, before she got remarried,
24:13
Speaker 2: we used to go on vacation together a lot, and
24:16
Speaker 2: we can go into a room and she'll like throw
24:20
Speaker 2: kids in a line on an assembly line diaper changing,
24:23
Speaker 2: and I'll start dinner and she'll be like making beds
24:26
Speaker 2: and stuff, and at the end of the night, it's
24:28
Speaker 2: just all done. Yeah, that's great, without a word, and
24:33
Speaker 2: there's no resentment. Ever. I went on vacation once with
24:36
Speaker 2: a friend who resented me at the end of it
24:41
Speaker 2: because I phoned it in. I was like, oh, I
24:43
Speaker 2: think we're fine. And she was like making this like
24:46
Speaker 2: butter blanc for this for the salmon, and I was like,
24:51
Speaker 2: let's just put like noodles in them and be just
24:53
Speaker 2: call it a day.
24:54
Speaker 3: Like this was this.
24:57
Speaker 2: I want to know what you Colonial Williamsburg, which is
25:00
Speaker 2: where I go all the time. I'm very slutty with
25:03
Speaker 2: my Colonial Williamsburg. With all of my sister wives I go.
25:05
Speaker 2: They're very frequently with many friends, and so she was
25:08
Speaker 2: making an incredible okay, it was so good, like a
25:11
Speaker 2: butter sauce on the salmon, and I was like, or noodles,
25:17
Speaker 2: let's just.
25:18
Speaker 3: Want and she was furious with you because she was.
25:20
Speaker 2: Like she wasn't mad, she just was tired. And I
25:23
Speaker 2: get it. And she likes to feed her children healthy
25:25
Speaker 2: food because she wants them to be healthy. I want
25:30
Speaker 2: a phone it in on vacation. Give them noodles. Yeah,
25:33
Speaker 2: you know, throw them in front of a TV and
25:35
Speaker 2: have a movie night. And they're very They're very like
25:38
Speaker 2: no screen healthy food. And I was like that is
25:43
Speaker 2: best days, but definitely not on vacation.
25:46
Speaker 3: I thought when I was pregnant, as do you delude yourself?
25:51
Speaker 3: I would be the best mom. Yeah, and now I'm
25:54
Speaker 3: just like. I had friends over the other day who
25:58
Speaker 3: bought their two kids, and the three year old was funny,
26:03
Speaker 3: kind of crazy running around, I mean, very well behaved,
26:06
Speaker 3: but just like a normal three year old. And then
26:10
Speaker 3: she came up to me and she was like, hey,
26:12
Speaker 3: can I want to sing on Netflix? And I was
26:15
Speaker 3: like yeah, and I put it on and she was
26:17
Speaker 3: just like sab there for two hours, just sabb there.
26:20
Speaker 3: And I was like this is great. I wait, kid,
26:22
Speaker 3: come watch TV.
26:24
Speaker 2: So It's funny because that friend we were all standing
26:27
Speaker 2: around at like a playground once and she asked us, like,
26:29
Speaker 2: what do you do when you're making dinner? Like how
26:32
Speaker 2: do you all make dinner? And we were all like
26:35
Speaker 2: kind of like the eyes shifted back and forth, and
26:37
Speaker 2: we were all like, we let her kids. That's so.
26:42
Speaker 2: My kids have like about an hour and a half
26:44
Speaker 2: of scream time a day, and that's it is. I
26:48
Speaker 2: really enjoy being able to make dinner what I really want.
26:51
Speaker 2: And Netflix or Food Network or whomever can steal this idea.
26:56
Speaker 2: I want a TV show like a cooking show, but
27:00
Speaker 2: where the host has to like figure out how to
27:03
Speaker 2: do it with like a baby attached either to their
27:06
Speaker 2: hip or to their legs or both, and then trying
27:10
Speaker 2: to feed a child just enough to shut them up
27:14
Speaker 2: but not too much to ruin their appetite while they're
27:16
Speaker 2: making dinner, and like figuring out that juggle every night,
27:20
Speaker 2: Like I would like to see a cooking show about
27:22
Speaker 2: my life.
27:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, because none of none of them have baby stamped no,
27:26
Speaker 3: and I just I have to watch Magan Mincles tonight.
27:31
Speaker 2: Oh is it coming out tonight?
27:32
Speaker 3: Yeah?
27:33
Speaker 2: I think we're both covering it because I promised, I
27:36
Speaker 2: promised the Examiner I would watch it, and I'm just
27:39
Speaker 2: too I can't. Yeah, she had that whole spread in
27:43
Speaker 2: People magazine. Did you read it? Yes, of course you did.
27:46
Speaker 2: You have to tough, you have to announce to the podcast.
27:49
Speaker 2: What is your new job?
27:50
Speaker 3: My new job is Royal correspondent for the Spectation. And
27:56
Speaker 3: when I tweeted this, everybody was like, because it's for
27:58
Speaker 3: the Trumps as well, and they were like, well, the
28:02
Speaker 3: Trumps aren't Broyles. Yeah, duh, that's the joke. It's funny,
28:07
Speaker 3: get it, ha ha.
28:09
Speaker 2: Wait, but are you covering the Trumps?
28:11
Speaker 3: Yeah?
28:12
Speaker 2: Oh, as like a royal family. Yeah, I love it. Yeah,
28:16
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with it. So I'm obsessed with both, like
28:21
Speaker 2: all the Trumps, the Royals, everyone, but in very different ways.
28:27
Speaker 2: I love Kate and will love love love. Yeah, the
28:34
Speaker 2: opposite of that for Harry and Meghan, and I find
28:37
Speaker 2: enjoyment out of not loving them. I I try, I
28:42
Speaker 2: really try.
28:43
Speaker 3: I try my hardest to find something nice to say,
28:45
Speaker 3: and I just can't.
28:46
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they're all They're awful. And I also I
28:49
Speaker 2: love the Trumps. I love I love Avanka and Jared. Yeah,
28:52
Speaker 2: they're so I love their kids. I had the weirdest
28:55
Speaker 2: stress dream about their daughter two nights ago. That was weird.
28:59
Speaker 2: And are you able to say what you just wrote
29:02
Speaker 2: speaking of the Trumps or not yet?
29:05
Speaker 3: Yeah? What did I write? I wrote a profile of Lara.
29:07
Speaker 3: I didn't interview it, but a profile. But one day
29:11
Speaker 3: I'll get it to her.
29:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, well send it to her when you write it,
29:16
Speaker 2: and then you know.
29:17
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a bad week. She started as
29:19
Speaker 3: like a TV show. She brought a song out with
29:22
Speaker 3: French Montana. She did like a hundred things that week,
29:26
Speaker 3: and I was like texting, how about today? How about today?
29:30
Speaker 3: How about today?
29:31
Speaker 2: So send her the profile and then she'll be like, oh,
29:33
Speaker 2: this is so nice and.
29:35
Speaker 3: Will but hang on, can we just talk about Megan Marcot?
29:37
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Did you read the Did you see the
29:42
Speaker 3: bit where it says hang on it and I'm going
29:45
Speaker 3: to read it. It's on my notes right next to
29:47
Speaker 3: the commuter Now she's save her in this stillness at
29:50
Speaker 3: home with Archie as he stirs awake sleepily telling her, Mamma,
29:54
Speaker 3: don't work too hard. He's five years old. He didn't
29:59
Speaker 3: say that. That didn't happened.
30:01
Speaker 2: I okay, five year old say the darnest things. Okay,
30:05
Speaker 2: I will contend maybe he might have said that. But
30:09
Speaker 2: what I find creepy about them is they left the
30:12
Speaker 2: royal family too for privacy right, protect their peace, protect
30:18
Speaker 2: their children. The second she needs to promote anything, she's
30:25
Speaker 2: breaking those kids out. I don't even know if the
30:26
Speaker 2: ones who she's showing on her Instagram or hers, they're
30:29
Speaker 2: just like random kids that she's picking up.
30:31
Speaker 3: Don't get into the Nagon conspiracy. Oh my god, you
30:34
Speaker 3: don't know how deep on Reddit I have been, Like,
30:38
Speaker 3: I don't even I have been right there with you
30:42
Speaker 3: on Reddit.
30:43
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know, man.
30:47
Speaker 3: I don't even think you should say that. You will
30:50
Speaker 3: get sued and she will. She'll find us and she'll
30:54
Speaker 3: kill us.
30:55
Speaker 2: You actually have a pretty high profile as far she's concerned.
30:58
Speaker 3: Taking you down would be. She's sent me to late
31:01
Speaker 3: legal letters already. She yes her law fam, she'll she
31:07
Speaker 3: used to like send them out all the time. What
31:10
Speaker 3: I just can't stand is that if you read the
31:14
Speaker 3: People Interview, anybody listening, it's like insane. No human being
31:19
Speaker 3: talks like that. It's like she talks and like live
31:22
Speaker 3: laugh love Instagram quotes like that's how she speaks, and
31:26
Speaker 3: she's so fake and.
31:28
Speaker 2: So yeah it she's live laugh love and she's going
31:31
Speaker 2: to eat pray Love. Yeah, she is going to just decide. H.
31:39
Speaker 2: She calls him, H.
31:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:41
Speaker 2: She feels suffocated by H Wait have you never seen
31:45
Speaker 2: Eat Prey Love? But no, no, it's it's so it's
31:49
Speaker 2: it's a book. I read the book many, many years ago,
31:52
Speaker 2: and it's basically this woman goes on a worldwide tour
31:57
Speaker 2: through Okay. So eat is Italy, pray is India, and
32:01
Speaker 2: love is Bali. And I cannot believe I remember that.
32:04
Speaker 2: I don't even remember all my kids' names, and I
32:06
Speaker 2: did that like at the drop of a hat. And
32:08
Speaker 2: she she gets divorced from this lovely man. She has
32:11
Speaker 2: a perfectly wonderful marriage and she just leaves him and
32:14
Speaker 2: blows up her whole life and great.
32:16
Speaker 3: I read it. I wade a twisted friend the other
32:18
Speaker 3: day about it was like did you see this? It
32:21
Speaker 3: was like a throughout about like the most popular books
32:26
Speaker 3: that were actually trash and like yeah, high generation of yeah,
32:30
Speaker 3: like the number one book, and everybody was like, yeah,
32:32
Speaker 3: this book is that's correct.
32:34
Speaker 2: And so I remember reading it when I was quite young.
32:37
Speaker 2: I was a teenager, and I remember thinking like that
32:39
Speaker 2: woman's life sounds wonderful and why did she do that?
32:42
Speaker 2: And she's not a heroine. And so I see Megan
32:46
Speaker 2: Markle pulling and eat, pray, love, and I just I think,
32:52
Speaker 2: as all mothers do, I have a fear of dying
32:54
Speaker 2: young and like not seeing my children grow up, YadA YadA,
32:58
Speaker 2: Like I like check my stool for blood to make
33:02
Speaker 2: sure I don't have colon cancer or whatever, like googling
33:05
Speaker 2: those symptoms of every kind of cancer that all my
33:07
Speaker 2: friends are getting now, and I'm gonna die, Like there's
33:11
Speaker 2: no symptoms for any cancer ever until you're almost dead.
33:13
Speaker 3: So whatever, I'm bad that I'm not the only one
33:16
Speaker 3: because I think about dying or Nick Dyan or the
33:20
Speaker 3: baby dying like maybe twenty times a day. Yeah me too.
33:23
Speaker 2: So I go so far as to like buy like blood,
33:26
Speaker 2: like a fecal stool sample kits to test. Okay, I'm
33:32
Speaker 2: a crazy person. All of that to say, Okay, I
33:36
Speaker 2: cannot die until that divorce. Yeah, I cannot adamantly refuse. Obviously,
33:43
Speaker 2: I need to see my children grow up, get married,
33:46
Speaker 2: have children, all those things. I don't think I'm asking
33:49
Speaker 2: for a lot more time.
33:50
Speaker 3: Here Wills in history. Now, apparently we should stop talking
33:55
Speaker 3: about this, but she's gonna see it. But there's a
33:58
Speaker 3: lot of romans about.
34:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean there was that whole What was
34:04
Speaker 2: the most recent rumor that about divorce that she had
34:10
Speaker 2: told she had shopped? What was it? She shopped a book?
34:14
Speaker 2: Was that it?
34:14
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I faintly remember this. Now she chopped a book, and.
34:20
Speaker 2: It was like O. J. Simpson, like, what if I
34:22
Speaker 2: did it? And she shopped? Like what if I got divorced?
34:26
Speaker 3: What? What kind of I don't think I'm talking about that.
34:28
Speaker 3: I think I'm talking about the fact that they were
34:30
Speaker 3: going to write a book together or do something together.
34:33
Speaker 3: And she apparently asking the company like, oh, what would
34:37
Speaker 3: happen if we wouldn't?
34:38
Speaker 2: No, no, no, she shopped. She shopped the idea allegedly allegedly,
34:44
Speaker 2: thank you very much for protecting us. She allegedly shopped
34:49
Speaker 2: what if we got divorced?
34:50
Speaker 3: What?
34:50
Speaker 2: What would a divorce book met me?
34:53
Speaker 3: That's wild, but a lot of money.
34:57
Speaker 2: Yes, I would not wait for the life very copy
35:00
Speaker 2: of that I went. I'd get it on Kindle that night.
35:06
Speaker 2: I'd be like, all right, let's go and the Oprah
35:08
Speaker 2: Show that it would be good.
35:10
Speaker 3: I know somebody are listening. I know somebody that when
35:15
Speaker 3: Harry was released in Spain, he he staked out, steaked stuck,
35:22
Speaker 3: staked out, he staked out like a distributed warehouse and
35:31
Speaker 3: found like an early copy.
35:34
Speaker 2: I did that, but with on accident with the Last
35:36
Speaker 2: Harry Potter book. Yeah, I was living in I was
35:40
Speaker 2: living in Southeast Asia and I happened to be in
35:42
Speaker 2: Bangkok that day and they didn't understand that it was
35:45
Speaker 2: like in all importance, so they sold it like two
35:47
Speaker 2: days early. Hilarious, and so I was like literally one
35:52
Speaker 2: of the first people in the world to read The
35:53
Speaker 2: Last Harry Potter.
35:54
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
35:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really fun. It's like one of my
35:57
Speaker 2: claims to fame.
35:57
Speaker 3: Did you post online?
35:59
Speaker 2: No?
36:00
Speaker 3: I didn't.
36:00
Speaker 2: The Internet didn't even really exist. It was so it
36:04
Speaker 2: was so back then. This is this will make me
36:07
Speaker 2: sound so old that to access the Internet I had
36:10
Speaker 2: to go to an internet cafe and pay like five
36:15
Speaker 2: dollars for an hour to my email. Yeah, you were born.
36:20
Speaker 2: I had to think about it though.
36:21
Speaker 3: I just kidding.
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36:51
Speaker 3: Wait, I haven't told me why I'm so annoyed.
36:54
Speaker 2: Oh tell me?
36:54
Speaker 3: Sorry?
36:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, see the narcissist.
36:57
Speaker 3: I know I'm reading an I've kind of got over
37:01
Speaker 3: now because it's been like an hour, but I'm really
37:03
Speaker 3: annoying because my husband can't find anything, and I feel
37:08
Speaker 3: bad even saying nice Boz. He tries so hard, he
37:11
Speaker 3: tries so hard, but he just can't never find anything.
37:14
Speaker 3: And he's bought I think ten pairs of glasses now
37:19
Speaker 3: and he like puts them all around the house to
37:21
Speaker 3: be like I can't lose him. He even bought one
37:24
Speaker 3: of those things to go around his name. Yeah, I'm
37:27
Speaker 3: not even joking. He still can't find them. And then
37:31
Speaker 3: just as I was gonna come upstairs to plug my
37:34
Speaker 3: laptop in, he can't find a phone charger, a laptop
37:38
Speaker 3: charger and he just bought like twenty.
37:41
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say when I had sons and I
37:46
Speaker 2: started seeing how men grow up. It's not an act,
37:51
Speaker 2: and it's not they don't do it with like malice,
37:54
Speaker 2: it's not what's the what's the term weaponize in competence?
38:00
Speaker 1: Not?
38:00
Speaker 2: I see it with like my two year old. I'm like, buddy,
38:04
Speaker 2: go get that right there.
38:05
Speaker 3: Why can't they do it?
38:07
Speaker 2: And I say, no, no, look up? And I say this
38:09
Speaker 2: to my three year old and he looks at the ceiling.
38:12
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, look down and he looks.
38:14
Speaker 3: At his toes.
38:15
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just right in front of you. And
38:17
Speaker 2: then he looks straight and I'm like, it's like on
38:19
Speaker 2: the floor right right.
38:21
Speaker 3: I do this with my thirty three year old husbands. No,
38:24
Speaker 3: so it's the same.
38:26
Speaker 2: Thing four boys later. I just have to say, it's
38:29
Speaker 2: not weaponized in competence.
38:31
Speaker 3: No, I know he doesn't know, and they can't help it.
38:36
Speaker 2: They can't help it. It's really pathetic, honestly.
38:39
Speaker 3: And I feel bad for him. How men have survived.
38:44
Speaker 2: Well, this is why they lives.
38:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is.
38:47
Speaker 2: Why they need us, because they would.
38:49
Speaker 3: Actually just try and have little girls. I've decided I'm
38:52
Speaker 3: going to have another baby. Yeah, do it? Am I crazy? No?
38:57
Speaker 2: I decided when when my oldest was four months old
38:59
Speaker 2: that I to have another one.
39:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody is like, everybody keeps saying to me, Oh,
39:05
Speaker 3: give it another month, your whole months a stead out
39:07
Speaker 3: with Bannance and then I've been saying this since two months,
39:10
Speaker 3: list since she was two months old. So it's now
39:12
Speaker 3: been two more months, three more months, and I'm.
39:15
Speaker 2: Like I said in the deliver my oldest, I said
39:19
Speaker 2: in the delivery room with my oldest, I want nine
39:22
Speaker 2: more of these. In the deliver room, I had just
39:24
Speaker 2: pushed her out, no epidural, nothing, No, I wasn't high.
39:29
Speaker 2: I was just like, I want nine more of these.
39:32
Speaker 3: Wow.
39:32
Speaker 2: I remember we went to Hawaii when I was four
39:36
Speaker 2: months postpartum because I got a fair mistake. Delta accidentally
39:40
Speaker 2: sold first class tickets to Hawaii for like less than
39:43
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars. So we went to Hawaii when I
39:46
Speaker 2: was four months postpartum, and I remember walking around and
39:50
Speaker 2: we saw someone who had twins and I was like,
39:53
Speaker 2: that b has two babies. I want two babies. Speaking
39:59
Speaker 2: of how amazing was the Oscars last night with with
40:04
Speaker 2: what Who is It? Kiaran Culkin? Is that his name?
40:07
Speaker 3: Yeah? So did you watch the film that he won
40:10
Speaker 3: for No sod it's really good.
40:14
Speaker 2: So I heard that he was apprehensive about taking that
40:17
Speaker 2: role because he didn't want to be away from his
40:19
Speaker 2: kids for four weeks.
40:20
Speaker 3: That's so cute. But I'm glad he did because now,
40:23
Speaker 3: what's it called.
40:24
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know anything about anything. I
40:29
Speaker 2: don't know what he wants. I don't know.
40:30
Speaker 3: I think is the problem with the mom podcast? Is
40:33
Speaker 3: the brain cells say a real thing.
40:39
Speaker 2: I have never heard of it. So what I loved
40:42
Speaker 2: about his speech was he tells this whole story about
40:46
Speaker 2: how his wife said she basically wouldn't agree to have
40:49
Speaker 2: a fourth unless he did this crazy thing. The crazy
40:53
Speaker 2: thing was winning an oscar, and then he won an Oscar,
40:56
Speaker 2: and he's like, let's get cracking, let's go okay.
40:59
Speaker 3: See one I told him about, like how cute I
41:03
Speaker 3: thought that moment was. And he said that he saw
41:05
Speaker 3: online a lot of people are saying that it's like
41:08
Speaker 3: very pressure pressure. I see, I can't speak. I can't speak.
41:13
Speaker 3: It's like it puts a lot of pressure on the wife,
41:15
Speaker 3: and it's like not a nice thing to do in public,
41:18
Speaker 3: A very kind nice thing if it was cute and lovely.
41:22
Speaker 2: Now everyone has to have a think piece about everything.
41:24
Speaker 2: That's nice. What about in your marriage? Are you the
41:27
Speaker 2: are you the baby pusher? Is he the baby pusher you? No?
41:30
Speaker 3: He is completely I love it. I mean he wanted
41:32
Speaker 3: the first baby. I didn't. I did not want a baby,
41:35
Speaker 3: but I was saying sure, but to be fear to
41:38
Speaker 3: me at that point, I was working this out the
41:41
Speaker 3: other day. So when I had given birth to Daphne,
41:48
Speaker 3: we had we had not yet known each other two years.
41:55
Speaker 2: It's not bad.
41:57
Speaker 3: We got married after four months, Yeah, pregnant after like
42:01
Speaker 3: a I don't know, it's crazy, oh.
42:04
Speaker 2: Little, I don't know. When you know, you know I
42:06
Speaker 2: love about us like me and Seth is that we
42:09
Speaker 2: were equally on the same page.
42:11
Speaker 3: Yeah.
42:12
Speaker 2: He felt apprehensive about saying what he wanted later on
42:19
Speaker 2: because he saw like the toll that pregnancy took on
42:22
Speaker 2: me and birth too. But but really, I'm not a
42:25
Speaker 2: good I'm not a happy pregnant person. I'm a very
42:29
Speaker 2: very miserable pregnant human being.
42:31
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's really hard.
42:33
Speaker 2: It's really hard, and I just like I would cry,
42:36
Speaker 2: he would I. It was just it was I was
42:38
Speaker 2: throwing up all the time, and so you know, he
42:42
Speaker 2: felt guilty when.
42:44
Speaker 3: I'm kind of I mean to be fair to both
42:47
Speaker 3: of us this second pregnancy that when I get him
42:51
Speaker 3: ready for now it's kind of tactical because we want
42:55
Speaker 3: the kids to be close in age. We kind of
42:58
Speaker 3: just want to get an open done way because we
43:00
Speaker 3: found the first one so like much better than we
43:02
Speaker 3: was expecting. But it feels less. I don't know, it's hard.
43:08
Speaker 3: It's hard to optionally do it to yourself again when
43:11
Speaker 3: you know what's coming.
43:14
Speaker 2: So I find actually the opposite. I found the misery
43:17
Speaker 2: of the first pregnancy to be the hardest because I
43:20
Speaker 2: was like, what am I even doing this for? Like
43:22
Speaker 2: what what was? What am I doing here? And now
43:25
Speaker 2: you know, when I hit two, three, four, five, six,
43:27
Speaker 2: I was like, well, at least said I really like
43:29
Speaker 2: them at the end of it.
43:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I don't know. There was something like
43:33
Speaker 3: magical about pregnancy at some parts. A lot of it
43:36
Speaker 3: was miserable, but some parts but like really nice because
43:38
Speaker 3: it was exciting and I didn't know what to expect
43:41
Speaker 3: and it was blah blah blah. You know, but now
43:43
Speaker 3: I know that I have to get them out.
43:45
Speaker 2: It's all terrible.
43:47
Speaker 3: I have to walk around in a lot of pain
43:50
Speaker 3: for a long time.
43:51
Speaker 2: So I compare it, are you Are you a rollercacter person? Yeah,
43:57
Speaker 2: so I'm not. So I compare it to when I
44:01
Speaker 2: was like thirteen, fourteen years old and I would go
44:03
Speaker 2: to six Flags with my friends and they would they
44:06
Speaker 2: would peer pressure me into getting on a roller coaster
44:09
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, okay, fun and then I'd sit
44:12
Speaker 2: down and the bar would lock, and the second I
44:15
Speaker 2: heard at lock, I'd be like, oh my god, I forgot.
44:18
Speaker 2: I really really, really really hate doing this. Why did
44:21
Speaker 2: I agree to this? And You're like scooch sco scooch,
44:24
Speaker 2: scooch scooching up and you're like inching, and I'm like,
44:27
Speaker 2: I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. I
44:28
Speaker 2: hate this. That's how I feel about pregnancy and birth.
44:31
Speaker 2: The second the bar drops and that line turns blue,
44:34
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, in a second, yeah, I really hate this.
44:38
Speaker 2: Why did I do this again? And that's how I
44:40
Speaker 2: feel the whole time.
44:41
Speaker 3: Well, another thing that is a fact is we just
44:45
Speaker 3: got a nanny last week.
44:47
Speaker 2: Whoa yeah, yeah, that's so fancy.
44:51
Speaker 3: I know. I'm a little bit ashamed because I always
44:54
Speaker 3: says I would never get a nanny, and then I
44:57
Speaker 3: got this job. I don't know, nanny sounds Nanny sounds
45:02
Speaker 3: like too involved, you know. Nanny sounds like they're like
45:06
Speaker 3: breastfeeding my kid. I don't know. Maybe this is like
45:08
Speaker 3: coming from wedness, whereas like if you say like daycare
45:14
Speaker 3: or child mind or something else and just feels better,
45:17
Speaker 3: you know. But anyway, I'm just gonna lean into it.
45:19
Speaker 3: We got a nanny last week because I got this
45:21
Speaker 3: job and it became increasingly harder to just like pass
45:24
Speaker 3: the baby back and forth anyway. And then nanny had
45:29
Speaker 3: three babies in like four years. Her last one. She
45:34
Speaker 3: found out she was pregnant with her last baby after
45:37
Speaker 3: three months of her before that, and she had had
45:42
Speaker 3: a c section. So this woman is like the most capable,
45:47
Speaker 3: like able and positive woman about anything.
45:52
Speaker 2: Is she only watching Daphne or does she have other babies?
45:55
Speaker 3: No, she's only watching Daphne.
45:56
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
45:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, we live out here, so it's like much cheaper
46:02
Speaker 3: than it would be in DC. It's sice.
46:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
46:06
Speaker 3: I think she's actually cheaper than the DC Daycide that
46:09
Speaker 3: I loved at.
46:10
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, they're all crazy, well, DC, they required them
46:14
Speaker 2: all to have college degrees. Why, I don't know. The
46:19
Speaker 2: worst babysitters I've ever had were people with college degrees.
46:23
Speaker 4: Yeah.
46:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like a twenty two year old trying
46:26
Speaker 3: to make some money on the side is like the
46:27
Speaker 3: best thing you can get.
46:29
Speaker 2: I non, no, A fifteen year old trying to make something
46:32
Speaker 2: on this side is actually the best.
46:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
46:34
Speaker 2: We just had an amazing babysitter last week. I was
46:36
Speaker 2: out of town in Florida and Seth went to a
46:38
Speaker 2: concert with one of our kids, Dropkick Murphy's. They went
46:41
Speaker 2: to like a punk concert.
46:42
Speaker 3: That's fun.
46:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cute. Seth is like groomed him into
46:46
Speaker 2: being his concert date. And so we hired a babysitter
46:50
Speaker 2: who was like fifteen years old. And I was like,
46:55
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she was. And now I'm like,
47:01
Speaker 2: can I adopt you into my basement?
47:04
Speaker 3: Yeah?
47:04
Speaker 2: So what do I need to do to get more
47:07
Speaker 2: of you in my life?
47:08
Speaker 3: Fifteen year olds will do anything but cash.
47:10
Speaker 2: She was so sweet, she was like she she sent
47:12
Speaker 2: me a voicemail. She's like, normally I charged fifteen dollars
47:15
Speaker 2: an hour, but because there's like so many of them,
47:19
Speaker 2: could I charge seventeen? And I was like yes you can.
47:21
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my god, that's amazing.
47:24
Speaker 2: Yes you can. Charged seventeen dollars an hour. Honey, that's hilarious.
47:28
Speaker 2: And I'll give you a dinner and I'll pay for
47:29
Speaker 2: your Uber too, because Seth was alone, so he couldn't
47:33
Speaker 2: drive her home afterwards, and so and so she got
47:37
Speaker 2: an Uber and I was like, honey, I'll be paying
47:39
Speaker 2: for that, and she's like, really, yeah, that's an hour
47:43
Speaker 2: of work for you to pay for an uber home.
47:46
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay for that.
47:47
Speaker 3: Oh my god, bless him. What an angel she was.
47:50
Speaker 3: So she was like, you's coming back. Yeah, I know.
47:53
Speaker 2: I met her. I met her at school on because
47:55
Speaker 2: she she went to my shool on she bought on Saturday,
47:58
Speaker 2: and I met her and she was so sweet. She
48:00
Speaker 2: was showing her friends because apparently she told her friends
48:03
Speaker 2: about it the next day. She's like, this is this
48:05
Speaker 2: one and this is this one.
48:08
Speaker 3: She ran all their names in one.
48:09
Speaker 2: That is that amazing. I don't even know all their names.
48:13
Speaker 3: That's worth seventeen dollars.
48:14
Speaker 2: And I gave them all of their names and I
48:16
Speaker 2: don't know all their names. No, she was like showing
48:18
Speaker 2: them off and her friends. You could tell were like, yeah,
48:20
Speaker 2: that's great, wonderful, I'm really happy for you. And she was.
48:23
Speaker 3: She was so sweet.
48:24
Speaker 2: She was obsessed with the fact that they were homeschooled,
48:26
Speaker 2: and you know, there was a lot of them and
48:30
Speaker 2: apparently they were mostly well behaved.
48:32
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's great. Well one of them can be
48:35
Speaker 3: not You can't expect six kids to all be bothed.
48:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there was five of them because one of
48:40
Speaker 2: them was at the compet.
48:40
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. Anyway, so the nanny, yeah, sorry, she's like,
48:47
Speaker 3: just pop one out. I did it. It's fine. Like
48:49
Speaker 3: She's like, it's hard for you, and then you get
48:51
Speaker 3: over it and then it's fine and you become like
48:53
Speaker 3: a more resilient and bested person.
48:55
Speaker 2: Fine, do you think that you guys would keep popping
48:58
Speaker 2: them out? Or do you think you're two two and.
49:02
Speaker 3: We've said too and done? But I could see because
49:06
Speaker 3: I'm only twenty six years old, your baby. If I
49:09
Speaker 3: have two kids by twenty seven, like, what am I
49:15
Speaker 3: going to do for the rest of my life? Do it?
49:18
Speaker 3: Keep it?
49:18
Speaker 2: Keep coming?
49:19
Speaker 1: Man?
49:19
Speaker 3: Come on. I would get Tony Inks thirty two and
49:21
Speaker 3: be like, let's just have them more.
49:26
Speaker 2: So I will say, so we have six. We said
49:30
Speaker 2: when we got together that we would have three.
49:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.
49:33
Speaker 2: And then on her deathbed, Seth's gram so, Seth's grandmother
49:39
Speaker 2: was dying and Seth's grandfather said, I want you to
49:43
Speaker 2: have another baby, and we were like, your wife is dying, yes, okay,
49:48
Speaker 2: we will agree to that.
49:49
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so stressful.
49:51
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was. It was honestly, I appreciated it
49:55
Speaker 2: because we were on the fence about it. And then
49:57
Speaker 2: it just felt like it was like we couldn't say
49:59
Speaker 2: no a pop. Yeah, like Pop wanted us to have
50:02
Speaker 2: another baby, So your wife is dying in front of us, Like, yes,
50:06
Speaker 2: I will say yes. So then we had a fourth,
50:11
Speaker 2: and then I was really on the fence about having
50:13
Speaker 2: a fifth and then desret It's like a Mormon publication
50:17
Speaker 2: out in Utah. They started a magazine and they they
50:22
Speaker 2: asked me to write a piece for them about big families.
50:24
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, it would be a
50:25
Speaker 2: great hook. I'm pregnant with my fifth, that would be
50:28
Speaker 2: a great hook for that mag piece. And so I
50:31
Speaker 2: was I went. I remember I went downstairs and I
50:34
Speaker 2: was like I ran down into his office and I
50:36
Speaker 2: told him. I was like Joseph Smith has decided we're
50:38
Speaker 2: having a fifth.
50:39
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're insane. You're insane. Well, you had
50:41
Speaker 3: a baby for a piece. I would do that. I
50:43
Speaker 3: would do that.
50:44
Speaker 2: I was like, this would be a great hook would
50:46
Speaker 2: And then it was funny because then they pushed my
50:48
Speaker 2: piece back. It was supposed to be in January, and
50:51
Speaker 2: then they pushed it back to March, and I was like,
50:54
Speaker 2: I got to announce this baby. Guys, you really, we
50:56
Speaker 2: really need to, like, now I'm pregnant because of you,
50:58
Speaker 2: people like, this needs to be in the March issue.
51:02
Speaker 2: And so that was my fifth and then.
51:04
Speaker 3: I hope you got paid a lot for that piece.
51:06
Speaker 2: No, you're inside a normal amount. It's a bagpiece, a
51:10
Speaker 2: couple thousand dollars. And then and then my sixth was
51:14
Speaker 2: an accident.
51:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I have another girl nights, I
51:22
Speaker 3: would be very happy with two girls. But I think
51:25
Speaker 3: past of me in my head would always be like, oh,
51:28
Speaker 3: what if we had a third and it's a boy?
51:30
Speaker 2: Boyz are so great. I did not, and so I'm
51:33
Speaker 2: an only child of a single mother. You are too.
51:36
Speaker 2: I did not have any imagination of how much I
51:41
Speaker 2: would love having a boy.
51:43
Speaker 3: I think I would too.
51:44
Speaker 1: I love it.
51:46
Speaker 2: They got I had four because my crazy is so
51:50
Speaker 2: intense on the boy mom thing, Like, do you know
51:52
Speaker 2: the book Love You Forever?
51:54
Speaker 3: No, So it's kind I'm just gonna say, I'm not
51:58
Speaker 3: going to know any films.
51:59
Speaker 2: Any It's actually it's a kid's book. It's like a really,
52:04
Speaker 2: really old children's book, and it's really sad, and.
52:08
Speaker 3: I think I have that Wait did I did you
52:11
Speaker 3: see my tweet? No? Because me and Nick have been
52:15
Speaker 3: reading Daphne Bad Time Stories every night, and every single
52:19
Speaker 3: fucking night. We get to the end of the book
52:22
Speaker 3: and Nick and I just happened bawling, crying together. It's insane.
52:26
Speaker 3: We just read Corduroy. Why is it so poignant?
52:31
Speaker 2: I know they're all really poignant.
52:33
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
52:34
Speaker 2: So Love You Forever is It follows a mom and
52:38
Speaker 2: her son and she's singing that she loves him forever,
52:42
Speaker 2: and it goes through the stages of his life, and
52:45
Speaker 2: in the later stages she I mean, he's a baby,
52:49
Speaker 2: he's a toddler, and she's loving him. Yeah, she's loving him. No, no,
52:53
Speaker 2: you're not gonna cry. Actually she's loving him through all
52:55
Speaker 2: of his stages. And then he leaves the house and
52:59
Speaker 2: she at the she sings in the song as she's
53:03
Speaker 2: putting him to sleep. When he's twenty two years old
53:07
Speaker 2: and has just left the house, she puts a ladder
53:09
Speaker 2: to his bedroom window and climbs through his bedroom window
53:12
Speaker 2: of his adult home and climbs into his bed and
53:16
Speaker 2: rocks him as a grown man. And I read that
53:20
Speaker 2: book when I had a daughter and I was like,
53:21
Speaker 2: this is psychotic? What is this? And then I had
53:25
Speaker 2: a son and I was like, I get it now,
53:29
Speaker 2: this is.
53:29
Speaker 3: Why all sons are insane.
53:31
Speaker 2: Yes, thank god I had four because I can distribute
53:36
Speaker 2: it and they only get twenty five percent of my crazy. Yeah,
53:40
Speaker 2: but oh my god, I'm psycho with my boys.
53:43
Speaker 3: See right now, I couldn't love anybody as much as
53:48
Speaker 3: I love Daphne.
53:50
Speaker 2: When I dropped my daughter off at my sister in
53:52
Speaker 2: law's house to go have my second that's I was
53:55
Speaker 2: crying about that. I was like, this is so unfair
53:57
Speaker 2: to him. How can I And like it was a
53:58
Speaker 2: boy too, and so I was like, how I love
54:00
Speaker 2: a boy, I'll never love him like I love her.
54:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I know.
54:09
Speaker 2: Now my daughters have chips on their shoulders because they're like,
54:11
Speaker 2: it's different for the boys. I'm like, yes it is.
54:17
Speaker 3: Sorry, every boy I know is incompetent and insane because
54:23
Speaker 3: of their mother, and.
54:25
Speaker 2: I do force them. I do force them to learn
54:28
Speaker 2: how to cook though, to come yeah, I so what.
54:32
Speaker 2: I went to Florida for a couple of days this
54:35
Speaker 2: last week, which is why we didn't record a podcast
54:37
Speaker 2: last week, and the kids. I came home and all
54:42
Speaker 2: of the older five were like, we're so hungry. And
54:46
Speaker 2: I left Seth with chicken to grill and he ruined it.
54:50
Speaker 2: And they were so mean to him, honestly, because like
54:52
Speaker 2: that's they were all like, how do you screw that up?
54:55
Speaker 2: How do you may they kind of how do you
54:58
Speaker 2: screw that up? But no, they're also hungry, and so
55:01
Speaker 2: I am teaching my older three how to cook, and
55:04
Speaker 2: so we usually have like a night a week, you know,
55:07
Speaker 2: on a normal week, where I'm teaching them how to
55:09
Speaker 2: make a dish and they choose what they're making whatever.
55:11
Speaker 2: And my nine year old son, my oldest son, resents
55:16
Speaker 2: everything that I make him do, just every everything I
55:19
Speaker 2: make him do, he resents he's almost ten. He's actually ten.
55:24
Speaker 2: And like a couple of days to shoot and I
55:26
Speaker 2: forgot about that until this moment, and so he he
55:30
Speaker 2: gets angry at me. Why do I have to do this?
55:32
Speaker 2: Why do I have to do this? And I'm like,
55:33
Speaker 2: because this way, you don't turn into your father, and
55:35
Speaker 2: you know how to make a meal when you leave
55:37
Speaker 2: the house. And it's the one time I've ever like
55:41
Speaker 2: diffused his anger at me because he's like, yeah, yeah, okay,
55:45
Speaker 2: that's fair. I don't I do want to be able
55:48
Speaker 2: to do something. I mean, he's brilliant. No, So here's
55:51
Speaker 2: my here's my thinking, this is my this is my belief.
55:55
Speaker 2: Everyone is given a certain amount of intelligence be and
56:01
Speaker 2: some people have more beats than other beats. Seth has
56:04
Speaker 2: a lot of beats, a lot of intelligence beats, b
56:07
Speaker 2: e ads, beats like it's like on whatever, all on
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Speaker 2: like certain things and there's zero the like life skills end.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like, this is one of the smartest people
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Speaker 3: I've ever met for finding anything.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's just because he's a man.
56:30
Speaker 3: It's so annoying. I just have to it's so annoying. Yeah,
56:35
Speaker 3: oh wait, I felt and I hate the dog today.
56:38
Speaker 3: Did you hate the dog when you had a baby.
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Speaker 3: I don't hate it.
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Speaker 2: She's I hate the dog every day.
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Speaker 3: She's a sweet dog. She's really well behaved, but like,
56:49
Speaker 3: it's crazy how much harder it makes having.
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Speaker 2: A baby, because it books when the baby's snapping.
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Speaker 3: Well, not even just that, but like anytime I put
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Speaker 3: something down, she's like trying to snap it because it
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Speaker 3: tastes like sick, or like trying to lock it or
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Speaker 3: bite it or like I don't know. We put the
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Speaker 3: dog in the canals for the first time since the
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Speaker 3: baby was born, like two weeks ago, just to have
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Speaker 3: an easy weekend. We weren't even going anywhere. We were
57:13
Speaker 3: just like and she loves the cannel, so it was
57:16
Speaker 3: good for her too. We like locked at each other
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Speaker 3: day too, and was like, this isn't ten percent easier,
57:23
Speaker 3: This is like five hundred percent easier.
57:26
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I always say, and it's not a joke
57:30
Speaker 2: that our hardest child is our dog.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, No, it makes every single aspect of having
57:36
Speaker 3: a baby worse.
57:37
Speaker 2: Yeah. When we go to Florida sometimes because Seth's family
57:40
Speaker 2: own a house that we can use down there, and
57:43
Speaker 2: sometimes when we go down there, Seth and I look
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Speaker 2: at each other and we're like, oh, this is significantly easier. Yeah, yeah,
57:50
Speaker 2: leave the dog at home.
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Speaker 3: Wait, how old is your dog?
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Speaker 2: Four five?
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Speaker 3: Because mine's are puppy, so it's born and a half.
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Speaker 2: No, he still acts like a puppy. He's four and
57:58
Speaker 2: a half, but he still acts like a dumb bot puppy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. Like when I was pregnant, I remember
58:04
Speaker 3: reading that cat piece when the woman was like, my
58:08
Speaker 3: cat maybe died because I didn't feed it or whatever
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Speaker 3: it was. And I remember reading it like, oh my god,
58:14
Speaker 3: what an evil, horrible cow. But like I could see it.
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Speaker 3: I don't see it, you know, I didn't. I would
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Speaker 3: feed it, but like it would be easier if she
58:26
Speaker 3: ran away. I can't believe I said that.
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Speaker 2: But no, it's fine. My mom, let my we had
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Speaker 2: a ferret growing up, and she left the door open
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Speaker 2: and was like god, cud until finally it ran away
58:39
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh my god. And I judged my
58:42
Speaker 2: mother very harshly until I had a rodent and a
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Speaker 2: child that was like you and it smells. Do you remember?
58:49
Speaker 2: Do you know how bad ferrets smell?
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Speaker 3: No, why did you have ferrets? And then on did
58:55
Speaker 3: you have ferrets? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I mean I was like five, it wasn't.
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Speaker 3: But you said you had a baby and a farret.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, my mom, I would never get a ferret.
59:04
Speaker 2: I learned I had a baby and a rodent dent
59:08
Speaker 2: oh guinea pigs. Yeah that was a mistake than they
59:10
Speaker 2: recently died.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds and that you have to clean out
59:15
Speaker 3: the thing.
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Speaker 2: You know, it is so much easier with those things, dad,
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Speaker 2: let me tell you, Oh my god, I oh god,
59:22
Speaker 2: it's so much easier. And with that, let's just end
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Speaker 2: here before someone calls something on us.
59:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this has been a therapy sashion that should
59:35
Speaker 3: probably never go today.
59:38
Speaker 2: But I'm too lazy to do this again tomorrow night,
59:40
Speaker 2: so let's just hip way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's done.
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