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Matt Hepworth spoke with Darren Clark from Wicked Kneads Alice Springs · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: What police say they've identified the ring leaders in a
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  Speaker 1: youth crime spree in Alice Springs. It comes as part
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  Speaker 1: of Operation Viper, in an attempt to crack down on
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  Speaker 1: youth crime in the town. So far, more than one
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  Speaker 1: hundred arrests have been made as part of the operation.
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  Speaker 1: To talk more about it is our man on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: Darren Clark from local business Wicked Needs Darren Morning. Yeah, well, Darren, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Operation Viper. I believe it's probably been in town for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months now. The big question is is
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  Speaker 1: it making a difference in the town.
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  Speaker 2: Well, initially they were having a fair crack and quite
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  Speaker 2: right down. I think the last one that I was
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  Speaker 2: on the show, I said it quiet down specifically, But
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  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just a few minutes ago I was
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  Speaker 1: reporting on an incident where there was a man bashed
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  Speaker 1: with a scooter. Do much on that at all?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that side, there's a there's interest in try
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  Speaker 2: to pick the bar and Coad Street, which is a
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  Speaker 2: very bad area in town at the moment. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 2: incident there with a knife on Friday night and then
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday night the guy's been hitting around the back
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  Speaker 2: of their head with a scooter and hit the ground
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  Speaker 2: and then he's been kicked in the head. Now that's one.
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  Speaker 2: That's one instance. And we had a young fellow walking
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  Speaker 2: along barreck dry from the casinos who's set upon by
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  Speaker 2: ten ten yudes, dragged in the river, bashed rob We've
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  Speaker 2: had another two guys outside the casino they've been attacked
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  Speaker 2: by another mob for ten or fifteen kids. Now allegedly
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  Speaker 2: there's another one of someone a mail out of a
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  Speaker 2: hotel was also attacked and injured. I haven't haven't got
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  Speaker 2: hold of that story of fool yet, but yeah, look
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  Speaker 2: at it. Town's not safe, mate, It's just not safe.
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  Speaker 2: It's on edge. Are people are scared, People are worried.
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  Speaker 2: We're back to where we were. Kate Warden, whoever. They
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  Speaker 2: can say whatever they want. Things aren't working, things aren't working.
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  Speaker 2: They can come out with these programs, they can say
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  Speaker 2: whatever they want. They can create a hub. The hub
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  Speaker 2: hasn't worked. Now we know that. So you know, the
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  Speaker 2: first thing is the sign of insanity made. The definition
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  Speaker 2: of sanity is doing the same super thing over and
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  Speaker 2: over again for the same stupid results. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: we're getting all the time it is insanity.
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  Speaker 1: Then, Darren, you mentioned territory Families. Minister Kate Warden, I
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  Speaker 1: know she took a visit down to Alice Springs last
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  Speaker 1: week along with the Chief Minister and I believe the
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  Speaker 1: Police Minister as well. Following that trip, she spoke with
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  Speaker 1: Katie Wolf. I want to play you a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of that audio for you now.
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  Speaker 2: I just find it strange that that you, the Police
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  Speaker 2: Minister and the Chief Minister were there and didn't sort
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  Speaker 2: of think maybe we should have a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: meeting with members of the public to see how they
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  Speaker 2: are feeling.
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  Speaker 3: Well. I think indirectly, Katie, we are catching up with people.
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  Speaker 3: The people out of the multicultural community that I met with,
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  Speaker 3: the people out of the sporting groups that I met with,
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  Speaker 3: They're all people that live every day in other Springs,
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  Speaker 3: and they certainly didn't raise it directly with me. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I think things have really calmed down in Other Springs
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  Speaker 3: and I think VIBA has done an amazing job down there.
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  Speaker 1: Darren, what would be your response to that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm nearly laughing, mate, I'm rolling on the ground here.
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  Speaker 2: Go to any barbecue, go to any gathering, go anywhere,
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  Speaker 2: go to a cafe, go into a bakery, go into
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  Speaker 2: a work site, go whereever you want. For this point
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  Speaker 2: of time, that is all anyone is talking about. Forget
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  Speaker 2: about forget about estimate glass words, and people go on
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  Speaker 2: a eighty four million or overspending chrity, generation of pair
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  Speaker 2: and water on what. We don't care? No one cares
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  Speaker 2: because we're are the face. The places are boiling for mate,
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  Speaker 2: and it's well, keep saying it and saying it, but
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  Speaker 2: how many more people have to die? We've had a
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  Speaker 2: death here and it's rutually, it's virtually being disregarded and ignored,
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  Speaker 2: and it really has and it's disrespectful to that blokes
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  Speaker 2: family and to the person that loss has shown, that
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  Speaker 2: lost his life. We're that close to having another one.
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  Speaker 2: You get whacked around the back of the head with
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  Speaker 2: a scooter and then kicked in the head where on
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  Speaker 2: the ground. How you're still alive? Well that's only lucky.
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  Speaker 2: So so how far does this have to go? You know?
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  Speaker 2: Every time every time the Chief Minister comes down here,
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  Speaker 2: they clean the place up, They go through the streets,
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  Speaker 2: they clean the streets, they get everyone away. It's like
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  Speaker 2: it's like a different town. And you know, he's coming
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  Speaker 2: because what it's got to change, mate, and as the
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  Speaker 2: cover up's got to stop. So Viper Viper the original
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  Speaker 2: Viper guys. From from what I'm hearing, they've gone back
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  Speaker 2: to Darwin. So we've just got Alex Springs place now
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  Speaker 2: with a Viper badge on, right, So there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of a lot of blood, of smoke and mirrors be
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  Speaker 2: employed at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: We'll follow that up with the police minister, because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we were of the understanding that that was going to
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  Speaker 1: be a permanent fixture in Alice Springs. Operation Viper.
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  Speaker 2: So what Viper is? Yeah, Viper is So they're not
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  Speaker 2: lying there, but the makeup of Viper, Wow, the makeup
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  Speaker 2: of vipra asked, are about the makeup of Viper? So
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  Speaker 2: IM's fully supportive of the police and everyone down here.
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  Speaker 2: We know the police are doing an amazing job under
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  Speaker 2: trying circumstances. But don't let the politicians play politicians of
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  Speaker 2: this because this is this is totally totally out of hand.
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  Speaker 2: We've got an opposition that aren't they're not. They have
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a song and dance here and there,
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  Speaker 2: but then they go quiet again. I mean, I will
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  Speaker 2: go to estimates with Chai and expose the government on
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  Speaker 2: the economic side of things. No one gives a flying
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  Speaker 2: damn about the economy in Alice Springs. At the moment.
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  Speaker 2: We are worried about public safety. We're worried about the elderly.
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  Speaker 2: We're worried about kids. You know, they go out to
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  Speaker 2: their forms, they go for a futurns to the bar,
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  Speaker 2: and they're getting attacked. Darren.
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  Speaker 1: I often think if I was in your position, or
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  Speaker 1: anyone else in the town right now, I'd go, this
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  Speaker 1: is too hard. I'm packing up shop and leaving. What
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  Speaker 1: keeps you in town, mate?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? The people. The people. We've got a great community
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  Speaker 2: spirit down here. But the more and more you talk
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  Speaker 2: to people around here long I know about four or
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  Speaker 2: five people that I spoke on the weekend. Three of
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  Speaker 2: them are definitely they're going So how long people can
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  Speaker 2: hang in for it, I don't know. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: these kids, these kids need some bloody helpmates. Ye, And
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  Speaker 2: I'll keep saying it. We've got a very very complex problem.
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  Speaker 2: But whatever they do doesn't fix it. So we have
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  Speaker 2: to go to the root and the cause and treat
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  Speaker 2: that instead of just throwing money and open a harb
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  Speaker 2: and making it all nice and the kids go and
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  Speaker 2: get their hair braided and they play a bit of
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  Speaker 2: table tennis and card games. Stop that these kids aren't
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  Speaker 2: getting brought up properly. Yeah, they're not getting brought up properly.
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  Speaker 2: They're not in safe homes, or they're not being taught
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  Speaker 2: the family unit properly. So let's go right back to
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  Speaker 2: the core of the problem and let's fix that. Because
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  Speaker 2: if you don't fix that, this is going to go
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  Speaker 2: on forever. Yeah, this is gonna and we're gonna lose generations,
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  Speaker 2: generations of great kids that are going to just end
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  Speaker 2: up being straight criminals and that's all they'll be. And
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  Speaker 2: that's that's not what anyone wants. The people of our springs,
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  Speaker 2: they're fed up, but they don't hate these kids. They
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  Speaker 2: don't hate them. We want to be able to help them.
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  Speaker 2: The trouble is, these all these little bullshit programs all
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  Speaker 2: the time. If they don't work, the hub doesn't work
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  Speaker 2: because they come back out on the streets. Stop throwing money,
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  Speaker 2: bad money after that, because it's just not working. Someone
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  Speaker 2: for crying out loud to Kay Warden, if you're listening,
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  Speaker 2: how about you think outside the square and how about
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  Speaker 2: you have the courage to do something different because this
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  Speaker 2: isn't working. It isn't working, Darren.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to keep chatting to you, mate. This
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  Speaker 1: is an incredibly powerful conversation and obviously one that needs
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  Speaker 1: to be had. I do have another a few more
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  Speaker 1: interviews coming up, mate. I can hear the passion in
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  Speaker 1: your voice and deare it's just so sad that we
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  Speaker 1: keep having this same conversation. But I mean, good on
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  Speaker 1: you for sticking in there. Mate. If we don't get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to chat beforehand, I almost feel bad saying have
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  Speaker 1: a good Christmas. But look, mate, I know that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, there are plenty of other good people
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  Speaker 1: in the town there. I hope you guys rally together.
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  Speaker 1: Do hope you have a good Christmas. Mate. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for you know, being our correspondent and our
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  Speaker 1: man on the ground this year. And yeah, look, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's hope we can touch base in twenty twenty one
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  Speaker 1: under better circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope we do, mate, And you have a
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  Speaker 2: great Christmas, Mate, and everyone up there, and Darlen you
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  Speaker 2: stay safe. And we think the people are doing for
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  Speaker 2: the support they do give us the time. So I
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  Speaker 2: know you've got your own problems up there, but we're
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  Speaker 2: doing an hard down here lot. You would not for lose, mate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good on your Darren. Thanks for taking the time
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  Speaker 1: to chat to us.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, buddy, catch mate.
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  Speaker 1: Well there you go. That was Darren Clark and Alice
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  Speaker 1: Springs and Wow, some powerful words and some powerful radio
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  Speaker 1: there