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Random Heathen Ramblings: S3, EP6 - Týr Talk And Other Ramblings (Viewer Request) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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Hello, and welcome back to another random Heathen,
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One for you today, this actually is a sort of like a viewer
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while. So I hope you guys are.
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Ready for that. It's we're gonna be talking
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about tear a little bit. I've done, you know, some videos
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or I did, I did a deity discussion video some years ago
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about tear and It's been a while since I've had any Focus or or
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put any real you know strict focus on any one or more of the
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of the various gods and goddesses of our Pantheon.
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But yeah, today's today's episode.
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So I got this message on on the midgard musings Facebook page
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which is a great way to, you know, get in touch with me if
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you have a question or suggestion about it.
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So, you know, I mean any time people feel like sending in a
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what we're based in today's, you know, podcast about.
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Patrons supporters everywhere, thank you for helping keep this
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you know and being a motivator behind all of this it's good to
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know that you know you have people that you're back that
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that want to support what you do.
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So the the Message that I got today.
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It was kind of neat. I'm going to I'm going to show
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you all just what he said. This is this gentleman's name.
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He's going to go by. We're just going to call him sky
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and he sent this message that says He works in, you know,
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because he said, hey, do you have time to chat?
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And I said, well, I'm kind of, you know, busy, but I'll respond
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when I can. He says, I completely
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understand, I work in the medical field and time is always
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short. I came across your YouTube
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channel. When I was researching for ways
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to honor tear, I would say, I'm new to Heathen to being Heathen
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in the ideas and symbols that always appeared around me.
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They aren't there aren't many Heathen practices around me.
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The ones I know either use it as a power trip or throw in some
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sort of white supremacy. So needless to say I'm on my
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own, you know, and that's always, you know, tough to hear
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when people find themselves in, you know, an area geographical
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area, where they I feel like they're on their own.
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Or that they don't have anybody around to support and so they
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look to the online community. And even with that, you know, as
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volatile as local in person, groups can be based off of the
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things like Sky, just mentioned the online community.
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Communities can be even more. So because You can hide behind a
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facade, you can hide behind, you know, a fake.
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Meow Persona and a fake image in a fake and just untruth, you
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know? So you always run that risk as
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well. So you know, the fact that sky
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that you found my channel and in your research, I'm glad and be
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careful, you know, out there some other channels that I would
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recommend are going to be posted down in this, the description in
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the show notes, you know, so for anyone else who's coming across
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my podcast, or my videos in there?
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Kind of new to Heathen re I'm going to share some other
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content creators that I think are definitely, you know, worth
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your time in your research and you know channels that are
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wholesome that share their own views on things without taking a
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bigoted or hate it or hate-filled approach.
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Right? So you know with what's called I
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was talking about you looking for ways to honor tear.
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Some of what I had sent back to him, you know, he was asking
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also about some suggested reading because his Origins.
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His religious Origins started in Christianity, like, kind of like
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a lot of us have, you know, we moved away from monotheism and
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polytheism and we found our home as it were Comfort within
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Germanic heathen. three northern European Heathen re just
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paganism as a as a generalized term and So he was asking also,
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you know, for like suggested reading and all that and I gave
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him a very comprehensive list of things I'm and I said, you know,
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look by no means am I saying that, you know, read these books
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like you would read the Bible like religiously and all that
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kind of stuff, right every day. You know, make sure that you can
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remember every single, you know, verse of the Hall of a mall or
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anything like that. And I told him, I said, you
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know, if you don't read any of these or if you only read some
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of them or you can't find him, it's not like This is me saying
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or anyone saying that, you know, you're not a true Heathen.
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If you don't read any of these things, nothing like that but a
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lot of the reading material that I shared with him included,
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really good source, material, primary and secondary sources,
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right? You know, so there were some
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things like, you know, tacitus Germania culture of the Teutons
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and a lot of, you know, more modern, but Scott, Early work
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that helps helps. You really understand?
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What things were probably like, or could have been like in
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ancient times, you know, the the pre-christian times of Northern
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Europe and even Scandinavia and some of the other surrounding
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Mainland, Germanic lands and countries and whatnot back then.
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So, you know, the hope is to provide you with good source
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material to develop your own way of thinking about it and
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determine if this is, you know, how do you want to take this
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approach? You know, because when whenever
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I get people that, Either write in or call in or ask me in
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person or whatever about, you know, what can I do?
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To honor this God or that God or what can I do to you know, gift
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to this God, how should I give to them?
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You know and all this kind of stuff I always am careful to
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make sure that they know like even though right there is
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homework to be done in there is knowledge to be gained in there
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is with as with any religion really you know studying to be
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done. There's really no one.
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In position in a position, like there is in many monotheistic,
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religious beliefs, like, Christianity, and Judaism, and,
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and even Islam, where there's, there's no, like Central
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Authority or whatever that says, you know, you have to do this,
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or you suffer the consequences. You know, the the, the
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consequence that we pay for, for our misdeeds or whatever is is
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experienced in quite often in real time because you make a bad
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decision and you reap bad rewards, you know?
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we make a good decision and you reap good reward and there's
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also this extension of though that reward or the consequence
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of our actions that extend past our mortal life and and and and
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I think you know, touch upon, you know, luck and or log and
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adding to the weld, you know, adding to those Primal layers
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for our ancestors to draw from just as we are drawing from the
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In the well that that our ancestors laid down before them
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and before us, that we, then become the ancestors and what we
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do now affects the later the later on.
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So you know what I mean, like what we do in the third on the
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shapes the school. So there's all of that to it.
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It's kind of part of this world view that a lot of pagans and he
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didn't specifically Approaching and adopting their way of
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thinking. So when I get to, you know, the
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point of when someone says, you know, what can I do to honor
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this God or that God, or what can I do, or how should I do
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this or you know all that I think it comes to a point of
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you've got to figure a lot of that out for yourself and what
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fits and what works for you. But there's things that there's
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I think there's some fundamentals and some Basics
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that you should know because you can Write a ritual, you can do
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the thing. You can.
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You know, sanctify, your Sacred Space by whatever.
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Means whether it be through, you know, fire or through smoke or
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through whatever other means that you externally.
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Set Sacred Space and then you, you know, go through the motions
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to perform your ritual like you can anybody can get to that
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point but but what you should really get to is why are you
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doing it? Because again there's nobody
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that standing above you or around you or whatever.
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Going nope you did it wrong. That's not going to work.
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You you violated this commandment you didn't do it
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that way and so therefore you got to do you know This thing
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that of the other to correct the wrong way that you did this
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prayer or you did this ritual and so on so forth there's
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really there's nothing like that and you know and at least in
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this branch of of of polytheism. So why are you looking to Focus
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on one or more specific guys. Like why do you want to know
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more about venerating? Tear specifically today's
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podcast is going to be about tear, you know, like what is the
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purpose? Why there's, and you'll hear
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this a lot when you get into conversations with other pagans,
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you know, this whole overarching concept of intent and I've even
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done a podcast about intent versus purpose.
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You know what? Intend to do what our intent is.
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Is not the same as the purpose behind it.
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I'll link that in the show notes, and in the annotated
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cards for those that are watching on YouTube, go to the
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annotated cards and and checked out, or check it out down in the
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description and show notes /, show notes wherever it's at for
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those that are listening. It's a, it's a podcast that I
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did on intent versus Purpose with jme Olufsen.
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Another fellow Heathen a great guy, wonderful.
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Real craftsmanship, dear friend and brother of mine for those
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that are new to the channel and new to my podcast.
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I don't I don't bestow titles of kinship on just anybody and
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everybody because your Pagan there there's a special place in
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my heart for people that earn kinship titles and it is
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definitely something you earn But Sonia going back to it.
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All right, why do we do what we do?
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What is the purpose behind what we do and in most cases, why do
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we If you even spend time thinking about venerating the
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gods, right? And in most cases, I think, for
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a lot of us especially when we're new to Heathen re or
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paganism is and, and very, especially if you're coming into
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this from like say Christianity or any other monotheistic,
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ridden with Dogma. Religion, you're coming into
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Heathen re with that worldview. You are thinking I need to
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Respect and honor and pray to and worship and all this the
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gods because that's replacing the sacred deity, that I'm
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leaving. So, there's a gap that you're
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trying to fill, there's a hole that you're trying to fill a
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void that you're trying to fill in the gods because of them
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being gods because of them being sacred.
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Beings are the thing that you think of at first you know and
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that's what you want to focus your attention on because that's
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You think a good Pagan does, right?
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Just like you think a good Christian goes to church and
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praise and you know, tithes their money and whatnot.
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Whatever other rules that the Bible tells you should do to be
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a good Christian and all this. You come into Heathen recommend
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to paganism with a very similar mindset, even though it's like,
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well, it's polytheism and I'm not, you know, just praying to
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one. God, I'm praying to multiple
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gods or I'm not just worshipping one.
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I'm worshipping many. So there's this baggage that a
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lot of Us carry from our old, you know, religious beliefs, and
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in coming into and even older religious belief into paganism,
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so there's that. And so but why, why do we do
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that? There's there's that there's the
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reason to fill the fill that hole or fill that void with
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something that we used to do. And then we became very familiar
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with but it's important to understand the Again, the
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purpose of why our ancient ancestors believed way, they
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believe in live the way they did.
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It was a, it was a very much different world view their
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approach to the gods was, and I know, I'm not going to say that
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this is exactly the way it was, because we're learning new
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things all the time. You know, where we're figuring
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things out with a lot of times where we're speculating, even
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even the, the most elite Scholars.
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And you know, people of of renowned who have spent Their
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whole lives studying this sort of thing and trying to figure
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out these things are still learning new things and coming
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up new ways. But for the most part, we
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understand that, you know, that the relationship that the
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ancient heathens are Arch Ethan's.
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If you will the indigenous people of these lands away that
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they had a relationship with the sacred was not the same as you
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would think of. Now, in modern days is the way
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we approach. Let's say, God right going to
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church. Saying prayers.
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Yes, there's some similarities in that we approach the sacred.
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We approach Our God's with a do level of veterans and respect.
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You know, it's why so many of us will dedicate a space, an altar.
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If it's outdoors, maybe like a Holger, or have a, some sort of
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grow, some sort of set, aside place of sanctity, a sacred
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place. Place for us to approach the
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gods. It's, it allows us to separate,
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you know, instead of walking into a church.
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And knowing that now, I'm in God's house right now, you're
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walking into the corner of your office or the or the, you know,
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mantelpiece of your, your fireplace or a closet.
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Maybe if you're like an apartment and you have limited
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space, whatever, you know, or it's a bit, it's a literal
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Grove. It's a circle of trees, a circle
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of stones, wherever it's that separation.
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That that physical representation of I'm leaving
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the outside world and I'm coming into or approaching the gods.
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I'm approaching Divine beings. I'm approaching the sacred.
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So, Wait the way that our ancient ancestors and way these
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ancient peoples did. It was was for very specific
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reasons and at very specific times at least so much as we
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know of, that's documented, right?
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We know for a fact that there was very specific bloats that
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were held in northern Europe, the Scandinavian countries and
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even in Mainland Germania the like the Saxons and the
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frisians. And and some of these other
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Mainland Germanic people that can that came Mother tribes over
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time. They had dedicated.
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Holy days or holy Tides every year and it was documented that
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they would sacrifice to the gods very and in very specific
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manners, they would they would hold bloat, they would sacrifice
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blood. It was part of that, sacred
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ritual to the gods for specific things.
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You know you had Segura bloat that is in the northern
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beginning of Summer, that was a victory bloat to Odin to gift to
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him and to the gods for victory. And the upcoming, you know,
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times where war was waged War battle was when we would go on
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raids and then all this kind of stuff and there was Victory
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bloat which is which Seeger both is.
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You had the the Nights bloat the you know around the decent,
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bloke down the mother nights traditional I believe it was a
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Saxon very Saxon leaning. Blowed, I'm not big on the
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history with with Saxon, he then resew don't necessarily quote me
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on that, but there's some really tremendously good sources on
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that to out there which I'll try to share in the The annotated
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cards but also do.com, Robert sauce.
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I've had him on my podcast before and he's done a lot of
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really neat work. And learned a lot, his work has
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been featured on his blog article now for some years and
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he's been doing this for quite some time.
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Yeah, I know some of you listening or what we're
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watching, whatever going to be like, oh, you know, you got
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something to say about him. I don't personally have a bad
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thing to say about the guy and I'm not going to do that here.
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But anyway, getting off topic, you know, winter nights was that
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the time of year to give to the gods and in, in bloat and
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sacrifice to the gods for, you know, a for a good impression
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for the cold, right? In preparation for the winter to
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sacrifice and thanks for the good Year's Harvest.
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Because again, if you didn't have a good harvest, you didn't
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have enough food to last you through the winter.
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So you could potentially starve, you know?
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And then you had you'll and you will was the midwinter Festival.
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That the midwinter bloat that you would, they would have to,
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you know, sacrifice to the gods, and thanks for making it through
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the harshest times of the year and two in anticipation and
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hope. So, Of having a profitable and a
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bountiful season of farming and all this kind of stuff and need
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to get ready for all of that again.
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So, you got to think like the purpose, the why, why we're
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things done was it? Because they felt like, well,
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it's that day of the week again and I got a, you know,
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quote-unquote go to church. I gotta, you know, pay my ties.
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I got a, I woke up and I gotta pray to the gods to protect me
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or was it? It was It was a way for them to
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connect with things that were definitely.
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They failed were bigger than them, whether it was the
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elements and the forces of nature around them which they
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kind of turned into, you know, or how they shape.
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The, the forces, the storms, the, the winters, the all this
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kind of stuff, of forces of nature, how they became sacred
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and became the gods. Eventually, you know how?
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How their connection with the world around them turned into
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their religion? You know, it was more of that,
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than it was out of just necessity out of just thinking,
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well, I've got to go, pray to tear.
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Now, I've got to go pray to Odin now, because It's that time of
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day or, you know, it's that time of night or whatever.
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So, I'm going around around the ways a bit, but the bottom line
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is, you know, when I think of why, or what should I do to
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sacrifice to the God, how should I sacrifice the to your, how
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should I gift it to your? What can I do to honor to hear
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to worship to your? What should I do?
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Well, figure out why you want to do it to begin with, you know,
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have you experienced things in your life, your own Personal
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experiences, your unverified personal gnosis has UPG.
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It's like I told this to Sky I said, you know, there's so much
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of learning about heathen re is the Academia, you know, studying
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learning about Source materials and how this this this religion
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could have possibly been observed in practice in ancient
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times, but don't neglect and don't shun away from your
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personal experiences because you're going to have them.
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And so much of your religion is going to be based off of your
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personal experiences, right? This gets into some other stuff
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that is is my own UPG as long as you're recognizing it for what
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it is and not trying to pass it off.
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As fact, you know, not trying to pass it off as well.
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This is the way the ancient heathens did it.
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And the end this is the way I'm going to do it.
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If you don't have any Source material to back that up then
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just say so right. Hey guys, this is my you too.
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UB G, but this is what I do and who knows if that if that won't
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help you know growth and development of other people?
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So I don't done, you know, in ways that I've approached my
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Heathen re is not to be, you know, not to gate, keep too
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much. You know, I do what I do and I
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keep certain things private and I keep certain things pertaining
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to My Tribe tribal and closed off in that way.
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But we're also not, you know, closed off.
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We're not a, this is not a closed-off religion.
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This is not something that we are not welcoming other people
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to come in and learn our way of doing things, and be a part of
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our way of doing things because you know, everybody's looking
26:39
for something. Be a part of everybody's looking
26:41
for those groups that they want to click up with and feel like
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they're part of a family in a way.
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So you know the neat thing with Sky was him feeling as the he
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was isolated and alone, he gave me his you know, city and state
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of location and I was like huh you know what you're probably
26:59
not as alone as you think you are.
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And I actually know a community not too far from you of really
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decent and good people that I'm going to give you some
27:07
information on and as it turns out, One of the people that
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admins that Facebook group has also it was a long time old
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friend of Sky, you know, they hadn't talked in very long or
27:20
something like that and they they really got reconnected
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through that interaction through mine and his interaction.
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He's like, thank you so much for this being and, you know, so
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there you go. Like you've got This whole
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social media thing, you know, the online communities and how
27:35
like I mentioned earlier on the podcast and how volatile it can
27:38
be. It can also be very wholesome
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and it is in many, many ways in ways like this, you know, so I
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told sky or I asked him. I said, you know, if you don't
27:53
mind because he was asking that question, what can I do to honor
27:55
to hear? What can I do to worship here?
27:58
So if you don't mind, I'd like to make this the the topic of
28:01
this week's podcast because I think it's a great thing to talk
28:05
about not just because of tear, you know.
28:07
And I did say that this podcast was going to be about tier but
28:10
it's really more. I think about our individual
28:15
feelings are individual approaches to Dealing with the
28:20
gods interacting with the gods. You know when I when I came into
28:25
Heathen re very early on I was I was super hardcore driven into
28:30
you know, I've got to have my altar set up.
28:32
I've got to have a representation of the Gods on my
28:34
altar. I've got to have an idol.
28:35
I've got to have a or, you know, God polar whatever you want to
28:38
call. That I've got to have my, you
28:40
know, I got to have this, I got to have that.
28:44
And I've got to learn how to bloat. you know, got to know
28:51
the, the right way of doing it but I was, you know, I was
28:56
nothing wrong with that, you know, nothing wrong with, you
28:59
know, and there's there's a lot of people out online that'll,
29:02
you know, write their own little devotionals prayers, whatever
29:06
you want to call them to different gods and their
29:09
beautiful, actually, I love looking online and seeing what
29:13
people are writing, whether it's on a Blog article or on a social
29:17
media post, like, I love seeing And the creativity.
29:22
Excuse me. I love seeing the creativity.
29:27
That gets displayed. And shared with people when
29:33
they're wanting to. Honor the Gods in that way.
29:44
And I would be lying if I said that some of what I've read.
29:49
Was not inspiration for me to do my own work than that way, you
29:53
know? So yeah, I've I've used the
29:57
internet. I've, I've looked at up things
29:59
and are they ancient in their character?
30:02
Are they are they very old writings?
30:04
Absolutely. Not, you know, could they be
30:08
inspired from older bades or older prayers or older wordings
30:13
of things? Possibly but more than likely
30:16
it's just one person's, you know, feeling inspired.
30:19
Our to verbalize and right, we're right.
30:22
Whatever in a about a certain thing in certain way, but it is,
30:26
it's very interesting. Very inspiring to me to see that
30:29
because that shows a lot of us in the moment, right?
30:35
That you're willing to kind of do what we do here on the, on
30:39
the, on podcast and on other channels.
30:41
And some of these other content creators other Heathen content
30:43
creators that are out here. You know, doing research,
30:47
finding things out and then here you guys go here's where you can
30:51
find it. Here's where you can learn for
30:53
yourselves and that's been what I feel has been such a important
30:57
part of the the online heat and community's growth and
31:01
development. It's not so much like yeah
31:03
anybody could sit here and be like I mean so I could have I
31:07
could have taken this a different angle for Sky.
31:08
I could have been like You mean you want to worshipped here?
31:14
Go and read articles about to your go find, you know, you
31:20
know, go read tacitus in and see the connections between tier and
31:27
the Roman God of War Mars and see why, you know, there was a
31:31
similarities, the similarities across cultures and all that
31:35
kind of stuff or figure it out for yourself, buddy, do you
31:37
know, do your own research, you know, who am I to tell you how
31:40
to worship the gods? I'm nobody, you know, and I'm
31:42
not going to sit here and try to To tell you any of that there's
31:46
been people like that in this probably still even though our
31:48
people like that, plenty of people like that that are that
31:51
are so callous or so just jerks about information you know, go
31:57
figure out for yourself and I'm not saying that there's not a
31:59
place for that, but it's how its own the delivery, you know, it's
32:02
kind of like me today with him. I said you know, I could have
32:06
sat there and then written a big long paragraph and that would
32:09
have been the end of it. But what does that really do
32:11
for? What does that do for Sky?
32:12
He right? Oh, it's Person's opinion.
32:15
I was doing some research. I found you on YouTube and I had
32:18
a question for you. Okay.
32:21
Well here's some more information that you can
32:23
research and find about this whole path because it's not just
32:26
about tier It's not just about Odin, it's not just about Thor.
32:30
It's not just about three or four are, you know, it's not
32:36
just about yoked ins and it's not just about trolls and it's
32:39
not just about the sagas and it's not just about the stories
32:42
in the myths and the lore, right?
32:45
That's all fascinating and it's all great and it all helps, you
32:50
know, really paint the the the cosmology parts of things or the
32:55
or the methos of things. But ultimately like, this is a
32:58
religion and a religion, Kerry has worldviews You know coming
33:04
into Heathen re coming into any religion.
33:06
You know you are are changing from one world view into another
33:10
and you will not absolutely not learn your this worldview.
33:17
You will not reach reprogram yourself to think this way
33:21
overnight, or even when in a few months, or a few years, you
33:24
know, I've been doing this now, I've been Heathen now for About
33:31
six or seven years. that I would that I could comfortably say
33:36
I've Yeah, I'd say about seven, probably seven or eight years
33:41
now. It doesn't even seem that long.
33:44
I'm just because I'm thinking back on, like, when I met my
33:46
wife and, you know, we've been together now for just, you know,
33:51
six over six years or approaching six years and I was
33:57
Pagan, you know, even before I met her just never, really,
34:02
quite jumped into it as heavily. So anyway, you know, seven,
34:07
seven, eight years, whatever and I'm still, you know, finding
34:11
myself at times, you know, realizing There's there's
34:15
there's some little bit of that old Christian baggage that pops
34:19
up for pokes through so give it time and it's because it's going
34:25
to take time. But learn about the World Views
34:31
learn about the the host of the historical information.
34:35
The Source material that we that we have.
34:38
That's, you know, been worked on by a lot of people for many,
34:42
many years to try and Fill in gaps right now.
34:48
You know one could say well that's that's too much work for
34:51
me. That's not what I'm that's not
34:52
what I'm in this for. That's not what I'm trying to
34:54
do. Okay, that's fine, that's what
34:56
you're not about. You know, I am about, maybe not
35:01
100% full hardcore Reconstructionist, but I am
35:05
definitely about learning as much as I can about the ways
35:10
that this religion may have been practiced in ancient times.
35:14
And Figuring out how it fits and how it applies in Modern Times
35:17
And recreating that. Because if it worked, then for
35:21
our ancient ancestors. Yes, I mean, the gods are old
35:24
and the gods have been, you know, known for centuries, if
35:29
not millennia. But we're also modern heathens
35:33
and we are in modern times and who, you know, who are we to say
35:36
that? The gods are not equally as
35:38
advanced and whatever. I mean, they're sacred beings
35:41
for goodness sake. You know what I mean?
35:43
The the way that mankind and Humanity has evolved over the
35:48
years to think that the gods have, any are not even greater
35:54
than that. In terms of their advancements.
35:56
You know how the gods once connected with people how to
36:01
They connect with people now while we've got social media,
36:05
right? And I'm not saying that I'm not
36:08
saying that, you know, because of social media because of this
36:10
internet because of this networking that we have the
36:13
capabilities of tapping into that you know it replaces the
36:17
Grassroots level stuff, the boots on the ground you know
36:20
nothing like this virtual happening right now is going to
36:25
replace being in nature. Having your feet in the ground,
36:31
your hands. Touch the Earth, your lungs,
36:34
breathe in the fresh air. The the sounds of nature around
36:38
you. The feelings of the wind, the
36:40
water that, you know, you will never find that online.
36:45
You'll never experience that online.
36:49
That is where the gods dwell. Now or you know that's where I
36:53
feel like the gods are the gods are around us in and they speak
36:56
to us through nature and we connect to them in ways because
37:01
of nature. Do they exist on another plane?
37:05
Do they do they literally figuratively whatever exist on
37:09
another plane. Sure.
37:10
Because they're there, the gods. You know what I mean?
37:13
They may not be omnipotent. That may not be omnipresent but
37:17
they do have a place that they exist.
37:20
That is beyond this. Profane space.
37:25
But how we can connect with them in this profane spaces is by
37:30
being out side by being out in nature and as closely as we can
37:34
come to experiencing that, recreating that I think we're
37:38
closer to experiencing the gods and that way.
37:43
Now those this, you know, to everything that I say, I hear
37:46
my, I hear some people saying, well, what about this?
37:48
You know what about the fact that I live in the city, you
37:50
know? Or are you know, my apartment
37:52
complex is literally, you know, a four square mile cement block.
37:57
And there's there's, you know, no nature around me for, you
38:00
know, 20 miles or whatever, like, find a way.
38:03
Like, I don't know if you want it bad enough, you'll you make
38:06
it happen, you know. But And and there's another guy
38:13
on here like Eric serve, and he does a lot of really good
38:16
content about stuff like this. You know, about the facing the
38:19
challenges of being. He just did a recent video about
38:23
being, you know, an urban Heath and I think they call it, you
38:25
know, being so, so, stuck into the inner cities, you know, or
38:31
being in such a urbanized area where your connection to Nature
38:37
is displaced a bit, and What ways you can, what things you
38:43
can do to reconnect. So for folks like that they're
38:46
listening right now and watching and going.
38:48
But dude you know I'm I'm in the city you know?
38:50
And you know I can't yeah sure there's a park nearby but you
38:54
know there's there's people everywhere and there's this and
38:56
there's a check out Eric's Channel.
38:57
He's going to be one of the ones that I have talked about on this
39:00
podcast many times before he's been featured on the channel.
39:03
He's a great guy. If talked to him many times, I
39:06
feel like we're friends, you know, on a Beyond just Being
39:12
content creators, like we've talked on the phone and I have
39:14
his number, and he has mine that sort of thing.
39:17
And so check his channel out and check out some of his videos
39:20
about stuff like this, because this is modern Heathen reman.
39:23
Like we are living in the 21st century.
39:26
It's 20, 22, and, you know, you got to adapt, you got to figure
39:30
out ways and that's the cool thing about it, like, that's
39:32
Heathen approach on things is, you know, adapting and being
39:37
Innovative and figuring things out and making things work.
39:40
It's not so So much of being stuck in the Dark Ages, you
39:44
know, and being so disconnected and off the grid with the modern
39:48
world. I mean, hey, that's what you
39:49
want to do. You want to go off grid and you
39:51
know, do that then. Sure by all means.
39:55
But I don't think those people are sitting here.
39:56
Listening to me talk about stuff like this, if they're off the
40:00
grid, but yeah. So do all the things that I
40:07
talked about, right, all the ways that I, this is my heat
40:09
Andre. This is the way that I he and
40:11
then In the way that I've come to Heathen is not the same way
40:14
that I heathen. Three, four, five, six, seven
40:18
years ago or even last year. It may be closer now than it
40:23
was, you know, year ago or whatever.
40:24
But even then like there's there's slight modifications
40:27
there, slight changes, my view of the world itself, not just a
40:31
religious worldview, but my view of the literal World itself in
40:36
my place in it has changed super drastically just within the last
40:41
four months, right? So there's going to be things
40:44
like that. That have a huge Impact on what
40:47
I say and why I say it. Because it's been based off of
40:54
my experience, my actual experience, my living
40:59
experience, the things that I touch feel taste.
41:01
See and smell. You know, and so that's Heathen.
41:08
Ritu to me, like, that's part of heating.
41:10
You've got to feel it yourself, you got to experience it
41:13
yourself. You've got to know what it feels
41:16
like to stand with other like-minded people.
41:22
Whether it's in a room, Around a table in a tent around a tree
41:28
around a fire near the creek bed of a river in a park, whatever,
41:36
you've got to know what it feels like the stand amongst
41:38
like-minded. People people who have the same
41:41
goals and your mind, and and just talk with them and
41:45
especially when you get into religious rituals and things
41:49
that tie you all together with the Gods.
41:54
You cannot replicate that online.
41:58
You can't I don't care how many Discord servers you guys get on.
42:03
I don't care how many online Facebook live streams you join.
42:10
I don't care what it feels like for you.
42:11
In that moment as profound and as and as wonderful as it may
42:15
feel, it's nothing like being there in person.
42:18
I can guarantee you that you will not have the same
42:21
experience as you as if it would be in person. so, Have those
42:30
experiences, right? How can I honor tear?
42:36
How can you honor any of the Gods?
42:38
How do you worship any of the Gods?
42:39
You know, tear was a focal point for Sky.
42:44
He focuses in, on tier, for what reasons, is it?
42:47
Because of the, the self-sacrifice elements that we
42:51
read about in the lore, is it? Because of the, the connotations
42:54
of that he has with Justice and right action, is it because he
42:58
is Lord of all of the thing and presides over the thing and that
43:02
Justice is is Right regardless and that Just constant balance,
43:07
you know, needing to be sought with within the construct of
43:12
what Justice is. You know, I mean, I myself
43:17
always have have a tea wise Rune on, you know, I've had this
43:23
this, this tier pendant. This to was ruin on my neck for,
43:28
for, for, for a very long time for probably about the last five
43:32
or so years of me being pagan. This is actually a pendant, that
43:37
never comes off my neck. Thor's hammer does.
43:42
And I take it off, it's heavier. First of all, if I slept in it
43:46
and I twisted the wrong way, I probably asphyxiate myself
43:50
because it's a hefty piece of jewelry, but so there's the
43:53
whole safety element or aspect of things.
43:55
But this, this this pendant has not left my neck except, for the
43:59
change, like, the chain that it's been on for the biggest
44:03
part of the last five years. So I get it, like, tears are
44:05
very and has been a very important part in my Pagan
44:09
practices as well especially early on.
44:11
Now, you know, a lot of folks, may remember when I first
44:15
started doing like YouTube live streams, I got swatted, not like
44:20
a bug, like people fought in me. I mean, I got like doors, busted
44:23
in guns Drawn On Me by the cops. You know, I was targeted by
44:30
swatters to have local law enforcement come in and disrupt
44:36
what I was doing which was nothing illegal, was nothing
44:39
wrong but it was a disruption. From law enforcement, you know,
44:44
tears will house if you will. So I took a very strong angle
44:49
and approach to working with tear and venerating tear and
44:55
gifting to tear, you know. So how do I do it?
44:59
Like I would have gift with any of the Gods, you know, I
45:02
approached the Gods in my way of, you know, creating Sacred
45:07
Space and I would, you know, gift an item, usually a libation
45:13
of sorts, right? Whether it was need or whether
45:15
it was a lure. Whiskey in many cases and I
45:21
would write a piece to say. I would I would pray to the God
45:24
that I was wanting to to appeal to and invoke, you know?
45:30
And then I would gift that item. It would I would, I wouldn't
45:34
consume it. I would destroy it.
45:36
It would be poured into the Earth or burned if it was like
45:40
an item that was burnable, you know, so if it was like food and
45:43
it was not, you know, harmful to the environment or any think
45:47
that I would burn it or bury it. I've done it all.
45:49
I buried it. I've burned it, I've bogged
45:52
things, maybe not necessarily bog it as in like let it sink
45:55
into the river. But I've sent things down the
45:58
river. I've sent things off with water
46:01
in the river. Nothing like littering nothing
46:05
like that was not biodegradable. But I'm talking like, you know,
46:09
food items or or or ashes of things that I've burned, you
46:13
know, stuff like that. Like, there's been a very
46:16
specific ritual approach to the way I give to the gods.
46:19
If it's a gift to the gods, if it's if I expect or if I hope
46:22
nothing, it's an expectation. But if I want something out of
46:26
this exchange, right? I hope I A gift in hopes of
46:30
receiving a gift back. That's what the gifting exchange
46:33
is here for. That's why we do what we do it.
46:36
That's why the pagans of old did it, right?
46:38
They gifted to the gods. I sacrifice to the gods because
46:40
first of all, they were thankful that they didn't die in the
46:43
harshest time of the year. And they were hoping that they
46:45
didn't die again the next go-around.
46:48
So thank you. Lord Odin.
46:49
Thank you for are to your whatever the gods at the time
46:52
that they would venerate art. He would gift to them, this
46:56
animal, right or them. And they would be Would consume
46:59
it amongst the tribes but the blood was the was the
47:02
sanctifying thing. The blood was what they use to
47:05
to bless with and it was now gifted to the gods, it was
47:09
gifted to the sacred and there was their gift to them in hopes
47:14
of receiving a gift. Back from the gods of you get to
47:17
live another winter, you get to have a good strong Harvest.
47:20
You have plenty of food to last you in the harsh and lean times,
47:23
you know? So, Maybe we're not the same
47:28
people anymore, we're not, you know needing extra food for the
47:32
summer so that we don't die in the winter but there's going to
47:34
be times I think that whether it's we as individuals or
47:37
collectively as a tribe or Kindred of sorts right now,
47:41
there's going to be times when we seek to appeal to the gods
47:44
and we maybe do that around specific times of the year, you
47:48
know, maybe we Mark our calendars to observe specific
47:52
holy Tides but then maybe we also have separate things.
47:56
Dividual things, where we approach the Gods in our own way
47:59
to, in hopes of appealing to them.
48:01
And is it always going to be successful at the gods?
48:03
Always going to pay attention to one person's actions.
48:08
Probably not, you know, I mean, historically speaking, we don't
48:13
know of any cases, where the gods were appeal to at an
48:17
individual level, except for maybe the do with, like, great
48:23
Heroes and Kings. The God didn't take special
48:25
attention to one person's action, unless they were someone
48:29
of her now and unless they were had a saga written about them,
48:32
right? But hey, we live in Saga time.
48:35
So is it out of the realm of possibility?
48:37
Probably not either, you know. So again the whole it goes back
48:45
again. Why what's the purpose?
48:47
Why do we do what we do? You know how you do, it is
48:51
really up to you. How do you want to venerate tear
48:55
do you want to, you know, sacrifice something that means a
48:59
lot to you and in ritually, Destroy it, whether it's burning
49:02
it bearing, it bogging it, you know, making it unfit for this
49:07
profane space to be ever be used again, something of Great Value
49:12
to you. As he knew that he had to
49:15
sacrifice his hand to the wolf or for the Betrayal that, that,
49:20
that was, that was shown to him, you know?
49:23
Just Dude, there's no one that's going to tell you how to do it.
49:30
Sure there's some ideas and there's some things that you can
49:33
read about of the ways that the pagans would connect with the
49:38
sacred. So maybe you take from that and
49:41
you use those ideas as inspiration to do it your own
49:45
way. You know, but a lot of people
49:49
like, what should I use? Should I get is coffee, okay.
49:51
Well, how much is coffee even worth?
49:53
Do you think that the gods are going to pay attention to you
49:56
for pouring down? You know, a two dollar and fifty
49:59
cent cup of joe into the ground. That's that doesn't mean a whole
50:02
lot. What would they think of you?
50:06
Pouring down, you know, a $17, glass of whiskey or 50-something
50:12
dollar shot, right? Knowing that that is worth way
50:17
more and, you know, you had to work hard to get that you had
50:20
to, you know, and you're not enjoying it.
50:22
You're not taking that sip of whatever it is out of enjoyment,
50:25
you are buying it for the purpose of gifting to the gods
50:30
because it its value is so much more, you know.
50:33
No, I used to know a guy that would eat and drink alcohol.
50:39
But he would say I'll give to her I'll give him the Red Bull
50:42
or an energy drink or whatever and you know I mean I'm like
50:47
okay I mean that's what that's like three bucks.
50:51
Thank the gods are gonna care about that.
50:54
But again, you know, part of me was also like, well, you know,
50:59
maybe that's all you can't afford.
51:00
Maybe that $3 is your meal for the day.
51:02
And instead of buying your meal for the day you went, and you
51:05
got something to give to the gods and you did with out for
51:08
yourself, in hopes of getting something, back from them.
51:11
Now, that gesture the, again, the purpose, the reason.
51:15
Why in all of it, it's all relative in it and that means
51:18
something. So, You know, on the surface, it
51:25
may seem like well that ain't much because, you know, it's
51:28
just a three dollar can of Redbull or it's just a two
51:31
dollar cup of coffee, or it's just this or it's just that you
51:35
know, maybe it is maybe it's more than that.
51:37
Maybe you, you know, again, maybe for that guy, you know,
51:40
he's like well, that $3 that I spent on that can of Redbull is
51:45
all I had to eat on that day. And now I'm not going to eat but
51:49
the God's got something. I know, right?
51:51
We don't know. So maybe some things to think
51:56
about. I went around a lot on this
52:00
episode. You know, I said at the
52:02
beginning it's going to be one about tear but it's really more
52:05
than that guys. It's more than just focusing on
52:08
what to do for one God, could I sit here could I do a podcast?
52:11
Could I read to you about? Well this is how you blow.
52:14
This is how you do it. This is Step A through Z.
52:18
Yeah, sure. You can all fall also find that
52:21
out for yourself and learn that yourself through some through
52:26
some study, it's out there. And you also come up with it
52:32
yourself, you learn it yourself, you do it yourself, you find a
52:35
way you make the thing happen, you know, if you're doing it
52:39
just because an article tells you how to do it.
52:43
What difference is that than just, you know, being like every
52:45
other hypocrite Christian out here that just, you know, screws
52:51
around all week long and no and gets up on Sunday.
52:54
Morning goes to church prays about it and thinks that they're
52:57
all good. So, find the purpose.
53:02
Find the reason why And then the how to's are the gun are going
53:08
to become more sincere, the house, you know, what you do?
53:11
The, the mechanics of it all are going to fall in place.
53:15
It's going to be sincere. It's going to be true.
53:17
It's going to be honest. And that's what makes it more
53:22
powerful than anything. It's not about reading an
53:25
instruction manual and falling it.
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Step by step, I mean, it's okay to stumble over your words
53:31
during ritual, it's okay to trip.
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On your way around the fire, you know it's okay to you know it's
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okay if the wind comes and knocks over your staff that you
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have propped up. As a centerpiece, you know, it's
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okay when things don't go 100% as playing because that's life
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nothing goes, as planned. So you know, be a part of that,
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be a part of that little hiccup, you know?
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The that many moment of chaos as it were, you know, be a Part of
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it, learn from it, what you can? And just keep doing what you're
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doing and learn along the way. Don't be afraid to learn and
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pick up new things and find new things.
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Never, stop learning, never stop searching.
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So anyway, sky, thank you for writing in and thank you for
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sharing your thoughts. And I hope that first of all,
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this has been helpful, helpful approach, from gave you some
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great things to think about, and I also hope that the The
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connection that you were able to re-establish with an old friend.
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And in the end, the Birmingham / Northern Alabama area of the
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United States proves to be fruitful and good for, not just
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you but for them. And for anyone else that you
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come in contact with and share and tie weird with you and your
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fiance? I believe Sohail and good health
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to you specifically Sky, inhale, and good health to everyone.
55:08
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