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GLAM-MOM MURDERS SLEEPING HUBBY, WHINES JUDGE 'RUINING HER LIFE" · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace breaking news tonight.
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Speaker 2: According to Cobbs, a glam mom murders her husband in
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Speaker 2: his sleep is now whining the judge is ruining her life.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: They also find blood on the slants beneath the mattress
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Speaker 3: and a large blood stain on the carpet below the bed.
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Speaker 3: It appears the bedroom had been meticulously cleaned, including bleaching
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Speaker 3: the walls and trying to remove the stain on the carpet.
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Speaker 4: We know that the parents were arrested last night on
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Speaker 4: no new information. Miss glad Hill's parents were arrested last
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Speaker 4: night with no new information, and it just feels like
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Speaker 4: everything surrounding her they're trying to take away. I think
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Speaker 4: that this pre trial protective order is a part of that.
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Speaker 1: Children of the victim and the defendant. There is some concern.
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Speaker 2: About obstruction that has been alleged to have already occurred
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Speaker 2: in involvement with.
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Speaker 1: The children, specifically, they will be likely witnesses.
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Speaker 5: In this matter.
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Speaker 4: Ultimately the end of the day, you runner, I think
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Speaker 4: what this all looks like with the States currently asking
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Speaker 4: the court to do in a situation where we don't
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Speaker 4: know where dad is. Mom's been taking out of their love,
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Speaker 4: taken out of the kids' lives. The state is ultimately
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Speaker 4: asking the court to criminalize a mom being able to
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Speaker 4: talk to a third party.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: According to sources, this so called glam mom, That wealthy
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Speaker 2: mom had quote whiskey fueled sex with her husband and
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Speaker 2: then murdered him the same night after she reveals to
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Speaker 2: him her sex affair with another man. Hold on, let
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Speaker 2: me get yeah, that's straight. A wealthy mom has whiskey
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Speaker 2: fueled sex with her husband and then she murders him
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Speaker 2: in his sleep after he gets angry over her sex affair.
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Speaker 2: I think I got that straight. And now she's whining.
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Speaker 2: The judge has set her life on fire because she's
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Speaker 2: behind bars. It's really hard for me to get my
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Speaker 2: mind around that. How does that all fit in the
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Speaker 2: same sentence. It doesn't make sense. But maybe Alexis Tereschuk
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Speaker 2: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter can make sense of it.
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Speaker 1: Do I have that right?
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Speaker 2: Allegations this glad mom has quote whiskey fueled sex with
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Speaker 2: her husband, then murders in the same night in his sleep.
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Speaker 6: She has said that they had wild sextion, She got drunk,
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Speaker 6: She had a bunch of whiskey. She, in fact, Baby Oh,
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Speaker 6: couldn't even remember some of the details from the night
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Speaker 6: because she was so drunk. That's what she has said
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Speaker 6: about the night that her husband disappeared died. That's all
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Speaker 6: she said. They got drunk, and she's fuzzy on the details.
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Speaker 2: Fuzzy on the details. Alexis Terestchuk, you are happily married,
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Speaker 2: are you not? With one incredible young son?
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 2: Now let me ask you just a quick question. Do
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Speaker 2: you remember the last time you saw your husband? Yes,
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Speaker 2: the last time I saw my husband, he was chomping
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Speaker 2: around the house complaining that the internet went down.
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Speaker 1: I even remember exactly what he was wearing.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So how do you get fuzzy about the last
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Speaker 2: time you saw your husband?
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Speaker 1: How does that work?
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Speaker 6: Well, she's saying that she was so drunk that she
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Speaker 6: can't really remember what happened she and she specifically says,
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Speaker 6: I was drinking whiskey. He came. They were together in
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Speaker 6: their home. They're one million dollar home by the way,
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Speaker 6: very fancy home, and that they were drinking whiskey. And
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Speaker 6: then she kind of can't really remember anything that was
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Speaker 6: going on.
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Speaker 2: Before I get to her inconsistent statement with high profile
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Speaker 2: lawyer Daryl Cohen, former prosecutor turn the defense attorney to
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Speaker 2: doctor Bethany Marshall, just a toss over to you, Dr Bethany,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany, Why can't rich people be happy? The woman
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Speaker 2: is lounging, she doesn't work, she's lounging, and a multimillion
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Speaker 2: dollar home. Bottom value is one million. Some people think
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Speaker 2: it would sell closer to two million.
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Speaker 1: She's got everything. Why can't she be happy? Apparently her
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Speaker 1: husband and a lover.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that really makes you happy, But
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Speaker 2: that said, why can't they just shut up and live
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Speaker 2: their wealthy lives and be happy?
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Speaker 7: Nancy, Whether you're rich or poor, the dynamics are the same. Greed, anger, resentment, jealousy,
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Speaker 7: all the emotions that lead to domestic homicide. And you
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Speaker 7: know what I'm also hearing, she is building a defense.
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Speaker 7: We call it malingering, making something up. He's lingering amnesia
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Speaker 7: because she had too much whiskey. She is thinking ahead, Nancy.
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Speaker 2: Okay, doctor Bethany Marshall, I hate everything that you just said.
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Speaker 2: And as a matter of fact, I'm gonna prove you wrong,
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Speaker 2: straight out to Tom Smith, former NYP detective. He is
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Speaker 2: the star of the gold Shields podcast the.
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Speaker 1: Co host Tom.
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Speaker 2: How many times Bethany, doctor Bethany is saying rich or poor,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, that's bs technical legal term. How many
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Speaker 2: times have you gone into let's just say Section eight
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Speaker 2: housing and you're looking for a young offender and you
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Speaker 2: find him at mommy's house and they have nothing. They
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Speaker 2: have nothing, no furniture, nothing in the fridge, nothing in
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Speaker 2: the cabinets, in the kitchen, nothing, And.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna bust him for what.
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Speaker 2: Selling do so maybe selling a five rock that's a
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Speaker 2: lot different in my mind. Yes, he's got to be
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Speaker 2: brought to justice, of course he does. But there's a
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Speaker 2: big difference in that with someone that has nothing that
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Speaker 2: could arguably have been trying to make a living, albeit
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Speaker 2: completely illegal, as opposed to let's just say Ethan Couch,
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Speaker 2: whose defense was affluenza was so rich and affluent that
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Speaker 2: he should be pardoned when he mows down a group
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Speaker 2: of people, killing multiple people and paralyzing another who had
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Speaker 2: been given everything in his life on a silver platter
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Speaker 2: on top of the Christmas tree, because I see a difference.
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Speaker 1: I see a difference.
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Speaker 8: Well, it becomes an entitlement issue. You know that they
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Speaker 8: can get away with what they're whatever they're going to do.
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Speaker 8: I'll get past it. I'll talk my way out of it.
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Speaker 8: My high priced lawyer will get me off of this.
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Speaker 8: I just have to come up with a good story
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Speaker 8: in an alibi. And that's the mindset going into this.
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Speaker 8: A very pre planned murder in my mind, starting from
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Speaker 8: the night before and all the way through there. But
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Speaker 8: like I said, it sets up the alibi of the
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Speaker 8: influence and entitlement of what she thinks she has.
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Speaker 4: Ultimately the end of the day, runner, I think what
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Speaker 4: this all looks like with the states currently asking the
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Speaker 4: court to do in a situation where we don't know
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Speaker 4: where Dad is, Mom's been taking out of their luck,
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Speaker 4: taken out of the kids' lives. The state is ultimately
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Speaker 4: asking the court to criminalize a mom being able to
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Speaker 4: talk to a third party.
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Speaker 1: Two.
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Speaker 2: Darald Cohen joining me, now high profile lawyer out of
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Speaker 2: the Atlanta jurisdiction, former felony prosecutor, now defense attorney, Darald Cohen.
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Speaker 2: The way her lawyer is talking, mom is being taken
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Speaker 2: out of their children's lives. The dad is gone translation,
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Speaker 2: the dad is murdered and mommy is charged.
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Speaker 1: Why are they making that the judge's fault?
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Speaker 5: All right? So, Nancy, let's face it. She is accused
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Speaker 5: of a crime. She is not yet, if ever, convicted
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Speaker 5: of murder. She has the right of everyone to be
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Speaker 5: presumed innocent unless and until it's.
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Speaker 2: Not anyone asking you, Darryl, Yeah, absolutely asking you. We're
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Speaker 2: talking about the children. The judge had entered a no
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Speaker 2: contact order with the children. And you know, Darryl, I
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Speaker 2: know you're on the other side now, but you do
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Speaker 2: remember when there is domestic abuse in the home, the
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Speaker 2: children are kept away from the abuser. Her husband is dead.
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Speaker 2: Just because I haven't been able to find his body
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's alive. And the children are under protective custody.
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Speaker 2: Why should they talk to her?
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Speaker 5: Why shouldn't they talk up to her? In less than
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Speaker 5: until she.
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Speaker 1: Had killed the father? According to the state.
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Speaker 5: According to the state, I didn't see where twelve men
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Speaker 5: and women said she was guilty. I didn't see where
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Speaker 5: she had pled guilty. I see where she has said
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Speaker 5: I don't remember what happened. That doesn't mean it's tantamount
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Speaker 5: to being guilty. She has a right to talk to
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Speaker 5: her kids, and more importantly, her kids have the need
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Speaker 5: to talk to their mom and to be with their
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Speaker 5: mom as best they can.
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Speaker 2: So, Daryl Cohen, are you arguing, which it seems you are,
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Speaker 2: that witness intimidation is not an issue.
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Speaker 1: It would be a cold day.
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Speaker 2: In HGL when you were a prosecutor that you would
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Speaker 2: allow an adult charged in a murder talk to potential
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Speaker 2: child witnesses that had possibly seen what happened in the
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Speaker 2: home at the time of the murder.
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Speaker 5: I would assume, Nancy, the detectives have seen all that
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Speaker 5: they can see, have made their decisions, written their reports,
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Speaker 5: and given video if necessary, and she has a right
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Speaker 5: to see as best she can her kids. She's incarcerated,
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Speaker 5: so she can't visually see them, but she can talk
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Speaker 5: to them, and there's no excuse for not to be
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Speaker 5: able to talk to them. And Nancy, you and I
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Speaker 5: both know that every call in every court and when
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Speaker 5: you're in jail is recorded, So if she were to
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Speaker 5: try and go off the ranch, they wouldn't hear it,
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Speaker 5: and that would be evidence against her. So your argument
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Speaker 5: just does apply.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is what the Prosecutor Emily Paulos has to
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Speaker 2: say these children are in fact potential witnesses.
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Speaker 9: And the state is in fact open to readdressing a
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Speaker 9: no contact order in the future once the investigation is
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Speaker 9: more complete and the children on an advice of potentially
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Speaker 9: of a therapist. And I thought i'd be helpful to
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Speaker 9: update you regarding the children's status. So they are currently
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Speaker 9: in dc FS custody with a temporary placement with family.
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Speaker 9: I believe the plan is for the children to start
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Speaker 9: engaging in therapy in addressing the loss of their father
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Speaker 9: and the fact that their mother has been charged with
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Speaker 9: his murder.
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Speaker 2: I want you to hear what they thorough. District Judge
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Speaker 2: Todd Olson says Ms.
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Speaker 10: Gledhill for now and until Judge maw tells you something differently, ma'am,
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Speaker 10: I am going to order that you have no contact
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Speaker 10: with so ma'am. That means no in person, no telephonic,
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Speaker 10: no electronic contact, ma'am. If you're released, you may not
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Speaker 10: go near their residence, school, you may not have anyone
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Speaker 10: else contact them on your behalf and ma'am, while disorder
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Speaker 10: is in effect, you may not possess a weapon or ammunition.
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Speaker 5: Miss Gledhill.
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Speaker 10: Do you understand everything I just told you?
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 11: Jennifer glud Hill tells her lover that her husband yelled
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Speaker 11: at her because he knew she was sleeping with someone else,
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Speaker 11: so that night, when he went to sleep in the
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Speaker 11: bed day's chair, she shot him in the head. The
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Speaker 11: confidential informant goes on to tell his handlers that after
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Speaker 11: shooting her husband, she put his body in a rooftop
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Speaker 11: storage container, then slid him down the stairs of their
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Speaker 11: home and loaded his body into a mini van. Gludhill
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Speaker 11: told him she had dug a hole somewhere north of
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Speaker 11: their home and Barry Johnson's body in a shallow grave.
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Speaker 11: Matthew Johnson is still missing.
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Speaker 2: Question how would the CI confidential informant know those very
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Speaker 2: intimate details, and if those details are true, would there
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Speaker 2: have been blood evidence to corroborate the CI. What we're
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Speaker 2: looking at is a nobody murder case. That's what's happening
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Speaker 2: right now. And joining me. Doctor high Severs, renowned certified
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Speaker 2: blood stained pattern analysts. You can find her online at
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Speaker 2: sever Forensics dot com. Doctor Severs, thank you for being
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Speaker 2: with us. You heard the scenario laid out by a
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Speaker 2: confidential informant. Now, in my world, confidential informants are usually
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Speaker 2: on the wrong side of the law.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So what you're going to.
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Speaker 2: Need for CI to be believable in front of a
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Speaker 2: jury is corroboration. Translation, I need blood evidence to support
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Speaker 2: that theory. That theory about a rooftop storage container being
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Speaker 2: slid downstairs and then into the waiting minivan. Now we've
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Speaker 2: got some corroboration from neighbors that say they observed the
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Speaker 2: car back into the garage.
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Speaker 1: Is that normal? You know minivan back ends? Raise up?
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Speaker 2: Okay, so why would you part in reverse that way?
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Speaker 2: Was there room in the garage? That's a whole nother
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Speaker 2: can of worms. But talk to me about the blood
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Speaker 2: stain evidence.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely so, in a situation like this, I would fully
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Speaker 12: expect for there to be blood stain patterns, whether they're altered,
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Speaker 12: probably from clean up attempts, but they're still there. If
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Speaker 12: what the informant said is true, we likely would find
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Speaker 12: remnants of spatter. It's very hard to see with the
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Speaker 12: naked eye every single tiny individual droplet of spatter from
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Speaker 12: an impact stain like that, as well as it's a
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Speaker 12: great undertaking to clean up that much blood, especially in
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Speaker 12: absorbent fabrics like the bedding, the flooring, the carpet, as
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Speaker 12: well as the mattress itself and on that bed brain well.
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Speaker 2: A copious amount of blood has been used in other
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Speaker 2: cases to prove a murder.
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Speaker 1: Does the name Jennifer Dulos ring a bell? Listen?
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Speaker 13: Jennifer Dulos and Fotus Dulos Mary In two thousand and four.
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Speaker 13: Thirteen years later, the couple file for divorce. The circumstances
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Speaker 13: are anything but amiable. Jennifer Dulo's files for an emergency
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Speaker 13: order for full custody of their five children. Jennifer Dulos
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Speaker 13: told the judge quote, I am afraid of my husband.
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Speaker 13: I know that filing for divorce and filing this motion
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Speaker 13: will enrage him. I know he will retaliate by trying
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Speaker 13: to harm me in some way. Fotis Dulos denied all claims,
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Speaker 13: alleging himself that Jennifer Dulo's disparaged him in front of
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Speaker 13: the children. The emergency order is denied and the couple
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Speaker 13: are granted shared custody of the children.
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Speaker 2: And here comes the blood evidence as it relates to
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Speaker 2: Jennifer Dulos another no body murder.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 3: When investigators arrived at Jennifer Dulo's home, blood stains are
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Speaker 3: visible not only on the garage floor, but garbage cans
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Speaker 3: and a car parked in the garage. The car in
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Speaker 3: the garage was not the Chevy suburban the mom was
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Speaker 3: known to drive. Police initiate a search for her vehicle.
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Speaker 3: A little over an hour later, in just three miles
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Speaker 3: from the home, officers find the abandoned suburban by Waveny Park.
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Speaker 3: It contains blood evidence too. Back at the home, investigators
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Speaker 3: determined someone had tried to clean the concrete floor.
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Speaker 2: Speaking off blood evidence that we will need to corroborate
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Speaker 2: a confidential informant.
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Speaker 1: Jury's going to wonder how does the CI know all of.
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Speaker 2: These intimate details about the murder unless they did it
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Speaker 2: or they were there. Alexa Tueschut, joining US Crime online
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Speaker 2: dot Com investigative reporter, What if any is the blood
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Speaker 2: evidence in the case in sheef.
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Speaker 6: There's actually a lot of blood evidence. The investigators went
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Speaker 6: to the home underneath the bed, the marital bed in
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Speaker 6: their bedroom. They moved the bed on the carpet below it.
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Speaker 6: There was a big stain, huge They cut it out
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Speaker 6: on the wall behind the bed. There wasn't blood that
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Speaker 6: you could see, but it had been clearly cleaned very
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Speaker 6: heavily the whole place. It smelled like bleach, like chlorine.
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Speaker 6: There was also the box spring was completely missing, and
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Speaker 6: there was the brand new mattress that had just been
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Speaker 6: ordered that arrived six days after he disappeared for the
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Speaker 6: first time. But there was lots of blood in the bedroom.
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Speaker 6: They found brown stain on the wall, so the police,
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Speaker 6: the investigators cut out the carpet and took it and
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Speaker 6: sent it to the lab. And the lab came back
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Speaker 6: and said DNA matched that this is male blood and
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Speaker 6: they are working to determine because this case is breaking
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Speaker 6: right now that they are working to determine if it
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Speaker 6: was his or not. But there was probably not another
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Speaker 6: male in the bedroom murdered.
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Speaker 2: Another similar case is that of eleven year old Gannon Stouch,
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Speaker 2: his mother ultimately prosecuted after blood evidence involving a mattress
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Speaker 2: was found.
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Speaker 3: Listen El Paso County sheriff suddenly shift their investigation from
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Speaker 3: a missing person to a homicide when they discover evidence
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Speaker 3: that eleven year old Gannon Stock may not be alive.
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Speaker 3: Agin and stepmother Letitia Stout tells investigators Gannon left on
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Speaker 3: foot for a friend's house and never returned home. But
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Speaker 3: sheriff's find blood spatter on the walls near Gannon's bed,
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Speaker 3: stains on the carpet that bled onto the concrete below,
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Speaker 3: and a large brown stain on the boy's mattress. DNA
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Speaker 3: to reveals it's Gannon's blood.
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Speaker 2: Back to doctor Heidie Sievers joining us bloodstained pattern expert. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I understand about the blood under the mattress seeping through
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Speaker 2: the carpet. I understand about the blood on the mattress
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Speaker 2: that had to be replaced in a new mattress purchased
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Speaker 2: the SEAI is my issue right now. The state has
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Speaker 2: to find a way to corroborate and buttress the confidential
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Speaker 2: informants credibility and what the CI is saying, specifically that
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Speaker 2: the dead body of the husband was put in a container.
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Speaker 2: The container was dragged down the steps and put in
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Speaker 2: the minivan. The only way to corroborate that is if
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Speaker 2: you could find, for instance, dragging evidence of the blood
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Speaker 2: showing the body had been dragged somewhere toward the stairwell
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Speaker 2: when the body allegedly was put in a storage container.
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Speaker 2: What would that blood evidence look like?
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Speaker 1: Great question.
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Speaker 14: We would be looking for, essentially, like you said, a
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Speaker 14: drag pattern, some swiping alterations from where the incident occurred
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Speaker 14: in the bedroom down to that stair the stairwell, and
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Speaker 14: then continuing down the stairs into the garage. Just because
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Speaker 14: we can't see the bloodstains, it doesn't mean that they're
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Speaker 14: not there. There are chemicals to help us find those,
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Speaker 14: regardless of cleaning, regardless of helly, and they.
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Speaker 5: May appear.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: So who is this confidential informant that knows so much
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Speaker 2: about the glam mom's.
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Speaker 1: Sex life with her husband?
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Speaker 2: Who would know that she's having an affair and that
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Speaker 2: that somehow caused the murder of the husband.
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Speaker 3: Listen, It's a story that sounds like the script for
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Speaker 3: a movie. A please inform man tells police he knows
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Speaker 3: that a missing man is actually dead, murdered by his wife.
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Speaker 3: Asked how he could possibly know that Jennifer Gludhill killed
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Speaker 3: her missing husband Utah National Guardsman Matthew Johnson. The informant
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Speaker 3: tells police that Jennifer Gledhill and her husband were fighting
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Speaker 3: over Jennifer being unfaithful and after Johnson yells at Gluedhill
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Speaker 3: for cheating. She waits until he falls asleep in the
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Speaker 3: bed they share, then shoots him.
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Speaker 2: So to you, Alexis Raschuk, the confidential informant that knows
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Speaker 2: so much about motive for murder is who.
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Speaker 6: It's her boyfriend. It's the man she's having an affair with.
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Speaker 6: Its like she she was accused by her husband. He
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Speaker 6: found out that she was cheating on him, and that's
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Speaker 6: when they got in a fight. That's what she says.
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Speaker 6: So she goes over. The informant tells the police. He
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Speaker 6: contacts the police himself. He's not anybody that is under suspicion.
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Speaker 6: He called the cops and said, she came over to
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Speaker 6: my house and she told me, well, I killed my husband,
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Speaker 6: and she gave serious details. She said, I shot him,
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Speaker 6: I cleaned the body up, I smashed his cell phone,
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Speaker 6: I drove his truck and hid it away, and then
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Speaker 6: I took his body and I drove north and I
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Speaker 6: buried it in a shallow grave. She confessed this all
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Speaker 6: to him, and he called the cops. That was her
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Speaker 6: boyfriend's and she was saying to him, you know, I
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Speaker 6: when I would tell somebody that I did something like this,
21:22
Speaker 6: I expect you to say to me, hang on a minute,
21:25
Speaker 6: let me get a shovel. I'll go with you. So
21:27
Speaker 6: she really thought that their bond was so strong that
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Speaker 6: he was going to help her cover up this crime,
21:31
Speaker 6: and instead he went straight to the cops.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I smell a defense joining me, a renowned defense
21:37
Speaker 2: attorney out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, Darryl Cohen. So now
21:43
Speaker 2: I've got the CI confidential informant is actually and I
21:47
Speaker 2: don't know why Alexis Tereschuk keeps calling him her boyfriend
21:51
Speaker 2: like they're in the eighth grade holding hands secretly by
21:54
Speaker 2: the water cooler in middle school. This would be her lover,
22:00
Speaker 2: be the guy that's cheating with a married woman. For
22:03
Speaker 2: all I know, he's married too. That's who we're talking about.
22:06
Speaker 2: We already know he's a cheater, so we know that
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Speaker 2: he's going to have a credibility issue in front of
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Speaker 2: a jury. But Daryl Cohen, there's so much more. There's
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Speaker 2: a much bigger problem. They're going to do this at trial.
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Speaker 2: How do I know the boyfriend, as Alexis Tereschuk calls him,
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Speaker 2: isn't coming forward and blaming her to cover his own tracks.
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Speaker 1: There's her defense right there there.
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Speaker 5: It is Nancy right out in front. He is coming forward.
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Speaker 5: We don't know how vetted he is. We don't know
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Speaker 5: what he does for a living. We don't know if
22:40
Speaker 5: he's a convicted felon. We don't know if he's the
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Speaker 5: greatest guy on earth other than having an affair with
22:46
Speaker 5: a married woman, and as you point out, he may
22:50
Speaker 5: or may not be married. How do we know he
22:52
Speaker 5: has any truth in him? If we find one lie,
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Speaker 5: one lie that every other bit of his testimony is questionable?
23:02
Speaker 5: Are you telling the truth now? You didn't? Are you
23:05
Speaker 5: hop about this testimony? Is that truthful? You've got to
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Speaker 5: give us more. I don't put any credibility in him
23:12
Speaker 5: at this moment. And as far as he is concerned,
23:18
Speaker 5: he is probably doing everything he can to make sure
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Speaker 5: that I don't get arrested, that I am not convicted.
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Speaker 5: For all we know, she killed her husband, or he
23:29
Speaker 5: killed her husband, or they killed her husband. But he
23:34
Speaker 5: is definitely doing everything he can to not be the
23:37
Speaker 5: fish that's caught. He's wiggling and wiggling and wiggling.
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Speaker 1: And that's why it is so important, don't you see this?
23:44
Speaker 1: Thomas Smith?
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Speaker 2: NYPD former detective that she doesn't get to talk to
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Speaker 2: those children because they were in the home the night
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Speaker 2: that daddy allegedly is murdered in his sleep.
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Speaker 1: So in order to prove she's.
23:59
Speaker 2: A killer and not her lover, we have to have
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Speaker 2: an airtight alibi for the lover, because how else would
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Speaker 2: he know all of these details of the murder unless
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Speaker 2: he was there or did she tell him the details?
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Speaker 1: How do we know he's not involved?
24:15
Speaker 2: And that's how the children can come into play, because
24:19
Speaker 2: they may be able to place daddy alive at a
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Speaker 2: certain time that night, he read me a bedtime story,
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Speaker 2: he did this, he did that, we had supper together.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but placing daddy alive that night and
24:29
Speaker 2: then alibi the boyfriends, see what I mean?
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Speaker 8: No, one hundred percent, And you know, like I just
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Speaker 8: said before, that's the key reason of not letting anyone
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Speaker 8: near these children, because all one of those children need
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Speaker 8: to say is there was a knock on the door,
24:43
Speaker 8: The doorbell rang, and Mommy went to the door and
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Speaker 8: talk to a man, and then that's it, and then
24:47
Speaker 8: it goes from there. But confidential informants get in front
24:51
Speaker 8: of crimes. Now, could this have been a conversation that
24:54
Speaker 8: they had at some point of her thoughts of getting
24:57
Speaker 8: out of this marriage by killing her husband and lead
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Speaker 8: out an entire plan to this guy. And then he
25:02
Speaker 8: finds out this happened. Oh yeah, he's going to run
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Speaker 8: to the police to make sure he doesn't get pointed
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Speaker 8: at or fingered by her having an involvement in this.
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Speaker 8: He may have the knowledge of it, you know, in
25:14
Speaker 8: a planning stage, and then that's that's the knowledge he
25:17
Speaker 8: has right now. But going to the police is a
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Speaker 8: classic CI move to get in front of being pointed
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Speaker 8: at for a crime.
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Speaker 2: What more do we know about the lover. We know
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Speaker 2: that it was an alleged sex affair. We know the
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Speaker 2: lover is stating Alexis Tereschak jump in. The alleged lover
25:36
Speaker 2: is stating the Gland mom murders her husband after.
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Speaker 1: Whiskey fueled sex.
25:43
Speaker 2: When she confesses her affair or he learns about the affair,
25:48
Speaker 2: he which one.
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Speaker 1: She told him.
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Speaker 6: I believe that she told him and he got furious
25:53
Speaker 6: with her and then she held him. But she also
25:55
Speaker 6: to this boyfriend was sending messages on WhatsApp, which is
25:58
Speaker 6: an app. You know that's not not traceable. It's supposed
26:01
Speaker 6: to be pretty secure, and the boyfriend says sorry. The
26:06
Speaker 6: lover says that he was taking screenshots of it because
26:09
Speaker 6: she was instantly deleting her messages, so she's texting him
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Speaker 6: all of these details and he's trying to grab all
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Speaker 6: this evidence to prove that he was not part of it.
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Speaker 2: Alexis, this is major what you're saying right there that
26:23
Speaker 2: may completely do away with the claim that the CI
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Speaker 2: lover is at fault. Is the one who committed the murder?
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Speaker 2: Are you telling me that glam Mom glad Hill was
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Speaker 2: what's happening, Yes, her lover at the time of the murder.
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Speaker 6: No, not at the time of the murdyer, sorry, after
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Speaker 6: the murder, that's.
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Speaker 1: When she was doing it.
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Speaker 6: It was after she planned. So they remember you said
26:51
Speaker 6: you have three children, that she has three children. She
26:54
Speaker 6: had those children stay at her parents' house the night
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Speaker 6: that her husband disappeared, and then she called her parents
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Speaker 6: the next day and said, oh, can the kids stay
27:03
Speaker 6: another day? So she made sure that those children were
27:06
Speaker 6: not anywhere near there when she killed daddy, and then
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Speaker 6: she drove her to the boyfriend's house told him, and
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Speaker 6: after that she kept texting him details about things. Really
27:16
Speaker 6: just commit so he says, And he says, he took
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Speaker 6: screenshots and he showed them to the cops of their conversations,
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Speaker 6: even though she was quickly deleting them after she would
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Speaker 6: write it. So really trying, it seems like to get
27:27
Speaker 6: him to be part of this cover up.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that puts everything in a whole new line. Daryl Cohen,
27:33
Speaker 2: defense attorney, You're gonna have to come up with a
27:35
Speaker 2: different defense because if the lover has screenshots where she's saying, hey,
27:40
Speaker 2: I just shot my husband in the head.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to get rid of the body.
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Speaker 2: If he's got that and he goes to police with that,
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Speaker 2: he's in the clear.
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Speaker 1: Darryl.
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Speaker 5: If if once upon a time in the land will
27:53
Speaker 5: never never land, I have made up a story. If
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Speaker 5: he has screen shi, yes, if he is testifying, maybe,
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Speaker 5: If he is testifying, likely not unless he has hard
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Speaker 5: physical evidence to show that this is what happened, and
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Speaker 5: the fact that he's pretty.
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Speaker 2: Hard Darryl Cohen, I never thought I'd say those words
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Speaker 2: to you, but that's pretty hard because if he has
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Speaker 2: screenshots of her saying, hey, guess what, I shot him
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Speaker 2: in the head. Now I got to get rid of
28:27
Speaker 2: the body or any words to that effect. That is
28:30
Speaker 2: bombshell evidence that ruins one of her defenses. So what
28:35
Speaker 2: in order to blame him, they would have to claim
28:38
Speaker 2: he fabricated those what's happened.
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Speaker 5: That's why whether or not he has a screenshot or
28:42
Speaker 5: two makes a big difference. At this point, we will
28:47
Speaker 5: see and we just don't know.
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Speaker 2: We are hearing that there are text messages in addition
28:53
Speaker 2: to those what's apps.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Text messages on glud Hill's phone are leading authorities to
28:58
Speaker 3: believe Matthew Johnson is buried location Glahill's friend previously described,
29:02
Speaker 3: but Johnson's body has not been recovered. Cottenwood Heights PD
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Speaker 3: are still searching with assistance from cadaver dogs, and hopeful
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Speaker 3: the father of three will be located quickly to provide
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Speaker 3: his family with some sense of closure.
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Speaker 2: So will those text messages prove that the so called
29:19
Speaker 2: glam mom murdered her husband? And now, in the middle
29:24
Speaker 2: of all of this, let me just say, there's no
29:27
Speaker 2: nice way to put it. There's a turd in the
29:29
Speaker 2: punch bowl, a fly in the ointment, as Shakespeare would say,
29:33
Speaker 2: her parents have been arrested.
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Speaker 15: Listen investigators find a neighbor who says they saw Jennifer
29:40
Speaker 15: Gledhill's parents at the house cleaning until late into the evening,
29:44
Speaker 15: even though her mother's on record as saying they had
29:46
Speaker 15: only been there for an hour. Jennifer Gledhill's mother says
29:49
Speaker 15: she purchased a mattress from Amazon at her daughter's request.
29:54
Speaker 16: Sirch Epherds are still ongoing for the remains of National
29:58
Speaker 16: Guard soldier Matthew j after his estranged wife says she
30:03
Speaker 16: buried him in a shallow grave.
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Speaker 3: Detectives get a search warrent to search the home of
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Speaker 3: Jennifer Gluhill's parents. During the search, they find a plastic
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Speaker 3: tote that contained a Glock nineteen X box wrapped in
30:16
Speaker 3: a child's onesie. The gun container matches the gun model
30:20
Speaker 3: that Gluhill showed to the man she was sleeping with,
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Speaker 3: who was a confidential informant for the police. Investigators were
30:26
Speaker 3: able to track GPS data for the day Jennifer Gluhill
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Speaker 3: allegedly killed her husband, and the data reveals she traveled
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Speaker 3: to where her husband's truck was later recovered, and she
30:35
Speaker 3: was caught on camera at a service station cleaning her car.
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Speaker 2: The arrest of the parents of the so called glam
30:42
Speaker 2: mom could swing this case. Let me understand something to
30:47
Speaker 2: investigative reporter Alexis Tereschuk. A plastic tote containing a glock
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Speaker 2: found wrapped and a child's onesie.
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Speaker 1: That's quite the dichotomy. Was that found in the parent's home.
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Speaker 6: It was, Yes, absolutely, it was hidden wrapped inside a
31:07
Speaker 6: child's onesie, you know, like a little sleeping outfit, and
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Speaker 6: in the parent's house and the police found it there.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I understand that inside you couldn't see the onesie,
31:22
Speaker 2: or you couldn't see the glock if you just saw
31:24
Speaker 2: the top of the toad.
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Speaker 1: So it could be argued.
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Speaker 2: The parents didn't know they were actually concealing a murder weapon,
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Speaker 2: that there was a gun wrapped in a onesie inside
31:37
Speaker 2: of that. But there seems to be more than a
31:40
Speaker 2: glot wrapped in a onesie.
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Speaker 11: Listen, it is not against the law to help a
31:45
Speaker 11: family member with cleaning up a house unless you were
31:48
Speaker 11: trying to cover up a crime. That is what police
31:51
Speaker 11: say Thomas Gledhill and Rosalie glued Hill were doing when
31:54
Speaker 11: they spend five hours cleaning their daughter Jennifer's house. Seventy
31:58
Speaker 11: one year old Thomas and sixty seven years old Rosalie
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Speaker 11: Gludhill have been charged with obstruction of justice for helping
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Speaker 11: their daughter clean her million dollar home after Jennifer Gledhill
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Speaker 11: allegedly shot and killed her husband while he slept in
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Speaker 11: their bed.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand what's happening here to doctor Bethany Marshall,
32:14
Speaker 2: why is it that after a murder occurs, people suddenly
32:19
Speaker 2: become neat nicks.
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Speaker 1: They begin cleaning up.
32:21
Speaker 2: Remember after Jodi Arius murdered Travis Alexander, she cleaned the
32:26
Speaker 2: whole thing up other than the dead body in the shower,
32:29
Speaker 2: but even thought to do the laundry.
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Speaker 1: Whoopsie, she left.
32:32
Speaker 2: Her Digi camera and the laundry and had a picture
32:36
Speaker 2: of her foot next to Travis Alexander's dead body. That's
32:43
Speaker 2: carrying and cleanup a little too far, right. She forgot
32:47
Speaker 2: to clean up the actual evidence. Why are the parents
32:50
Speaker 2: in this home for over five hours cleaning up? Coincidentally
32:54
Speaker 2: right after the son in law goes missing.
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Speaker 7: Well, Nancy, they can't bear the out their daughter spending
33:01
Speaker 7: the rest of her life in jail, because that is
33:03
Speaker 7: what is going to happen. But I think we're also
33:06
Speaker 7: going to find out that Jennifer Gledhill has probably been
33:10
Speaker 7: maneuvering against her husband for years, trying to co opt
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Speaker 7: her parents and her lover into thinking that he's abusive
33:18
Speaker 7: or he's a bad person, or making it seem that
33:21
Speaker 7: it is perfectly reasonable to kill him, and they gladly
33:27
Speaker 7: go along with it.
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Speaker 1: The parents, this is.
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Speaker 7: Their son in law for many many years. This is
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Speaker 7: the father of their three beautiful grandchildren. They are colluding
33:39
Speaker 7: with their daughter and killing him. And I think we're
33:42
Speaker 7: also going to find out about the ci, the lover,
33:45
Speaker 7: the informant, that this was a part of their fantasy life,
33:49
Speaker 7: that they were going to get rid of him, that
33:52
Speaker 7: he too had been co opted into the fairy tale,
33:55
Speaker 7: that the husband was abusive and he doesn't even deserve
33:58
Speaker 7: to be alive anymore. And it is certain point when
34:01
Speaker 7: it really happened, and we still don't know his total participation.
34:05
Speaker 7: He had to pull out so that he wouldn't be
34:08
Speaker 7: caught as a co conspirator in this crime.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a big difference, Bethany, between your fantasy of
34:15
Speaker 2: having this woman the glam mom let Hill alter yourself
34:18
Speaker 2: and finally getting her. I mean, there's the old saying,
34:21
Speaker 2: be careful what you wish for, for you will surely
34:23
Speaker 2: get it.
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Speaker 1: She's all his now, you know.
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Speaker 2: To doctor Heidi Savers joining us, let's saint pattern expert
34:31
Speaker 2: the mom and dad and think about it. One of
34:33
Speaker 2: sixty seven one is seventy one and glam Mom has
34:36
Speaker 2: landed them behind bars. If the allegations are true. I'm
34:40
Speaker 2: sure they did a wonderful job at cleaning her home,
34:44
Speaker 2: but it's really hard to get rid of all the
34:47
Speaker 2: blood evidence.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 17: Absolutely as good of his job as they think they did.
34:52
Speaker 17: In the eyes of forensics and bloodstained detection, they probably
34:56
Speaker 17: did a very subpar job. It's very difficult to obliterate
35:01
Speaker 17: any traces of blood, and they might visually not see
35:04
Speaker 17: any red brown staining anymore. But it's still there, and
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Speaker 17: our chemicals are strong enough to detect it.
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Speaker 9: And tell us that there's something there.
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Speaker 2: For further inquiry, Alexis Tereshchut, you didn't tell me the
35:16
Speaker 2: parents spent the whole day cleaning up for home, and.
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Speaker 6: They lied about it. They told investigators because they had
35:23
Speaker 6: spoken with them. They said, oh, we are just there
35:25
Speaker 6: for about an hour, just over at the home, but
35:27
Speaker 6: the neighbors told the police. They said, no, it wasn't
35:30
Speaker 6: just an hour. They were there until eleven o'clock at night.
35:34
Speaker 6: They've been there for absolute hours. So even the parents
35:37
Speaker 6: are lying to police about what happened. They're lying about it.
35:40
Speaker 16: They're trying to set everything my client loves on fire.
35:46
Speaker 16: The attorney of the wealthy Utah mom accused of killing
35:49
Speaker 16: her husband angrily lashes out at the judge.
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Speaker 2: Well, it certainly wouldn't be the first time a parent
35:59
Speaker 2: has been prosecuted for covering up the murder committed by
36:04
Speaker 2: their child. I can't help but remember Crystal Smith, who
36:11
Speaker 2: was prosecuted for washing her son Aidan Fucci's bloody jeans
36:18
Speaker 2: after he murdered a teen girl cheerleader Tristan Bailey.
36:23
Speaker 3: Aidan Fucci is accused of killing his classmate, thirteen year
36:26
Speaker 3: old cheerleader Tristan Bailey. Police released videos of Fucci laughing
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Speaker 3: in the backseat of a police car, as well as
36:33
Speaker 3: a video showing Fucci's mother, Crystal Smith, washing the blood
36:37
Speaker 3: out of her son's jeanes hours after Fucci allegedly murdered
36:42
Speaker 3: Tristan Bailey by stabbing her one hundred and fourteen times, one.
36:46
Speaker 2: Hundred and fourteen times, this little girl was stabbed, stabbed dead,
36:51
Speaker 2: and mommy washed her son's bloody jeans. Well, she ends
36:56
Speaker 2: up getting prosecuted for that. And then there is the
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Speaker 2: Aidol case.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 3: Dan Markell is murdered in his car at his home
37:02
Speaker 3: in Tallahassee, Florida. Investigators find a bitter custody issue has
37:06
Speaker 3: been ongoing between Markell and his ex wife Wendy Aedelson.
37:09
Speaker 3: Adelson denies knowledge of anything, but her brother Charlie is
37:11
Speaker 3: con in the middle of a murder for higher plot
37:13
Speaker 3: to kill Dan Markell. Charlie's mother, Donna Adelson, is caught
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Speaker 3: on jail house phone recordings discussing the murder, and investigators
37:19
Speaker 3: determined she has been involved in the conspiracy to kill Markel.
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Speaker 3: With Markell out of the picture, Wendy Aedelson can move
37:26
Speaker 3: for children closer to their grandmother Donna Adelson in South Florida.
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Speaker 3: Donna Adelson is arrested as she is waiting in line
37:32
Speaker 3: to border flight to Vietnam after buying a one way
37:34
Speaker 3: ticket to the non extradition country.
37:36
Speaker 2: Wow, we were waiting trial in that case. So alexis
37:40
Speaker 2: Teresschuk what are the charges against glam Moom's parents.
37:45
Speaker 6: Obstruction of justice so far, that is what they've been
37:48
Speaker 6: charged with, and they were arrested. These are these people
37:51
Speaker 6: in their sixties and seventies and their daughter and also
37:55
Speaker 6: the mom and dad had ordered the new mattress. They said, oh,
38:00
Speaker 6: she asked us to get her a new mattress. We
38:01
Speaker 6: ordered it from Amazon. The dad apparently texted her that
38:04
Speaker 6: police have evidence of this and said, oh, the new
38:05
Speaker 6: mattress is outside your house. Which, while not a crime
38:08
Speaker 6: to buy a new mattress, if they'd been there helping
38:11
Speaker 6: clean up the old mattress that was bloody because she
38:14
Speaker 6: shot her husband in it, that is obstruction of justice.
38:18
Speaker 2: And you know, Daryl Cohen, the parents could argue, well,
38:23
Speaker 2: she told us it was self defense, that he was
38:25
Speaker 2: beating her in approaching her with a knife, so she shot.
38:27
Speaker 2: And we don't know what the parents are going to say.
38:30
Speaker 2: They're actually grandparents, But that does not negate intent to
38:35
Speaker 2: cover up a crime. Would that actually work in court?
38:40
Speaker 5: It would mitigate in court depending on the attitude of
38:44
Speaker 5: the grandparents if they testify, depending on their demeanor, depending
38:49
Speaker 5: on their facial expressions, depending on their body language, and
38:53
Speaker 5: depending most importantly, whether or not they and the jury
38:58
Speaker 5: can get together a motion. If the jury resonates with them,
39:03
Speaker 5: it can work beautifully. All those poor grandparents are going
39:06
Speaker 5: through all this terrible stuff. It's terrible, or the jury
39:10
Speaker 5: can say this is outrageous. I cannot even believe that
39:14
Speaker 5: they would testify. I understand there feeling terrible for their daughter.
39:19
Speaker 5: But you don't lie. You tell the truth. Are you kydbms?
39:24
Speaker 5: You keep your damn big mouth shut, and that means
39:27
Speaker 5: you don't do anything.
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Speaker 8: So.
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Speaker 2: Jennifer Gledhill, the so called glam mom, is accused of
39:35
Speaker 2: murdering her husband after a night of quote whiskey fueled sex.
39:40
Speaker 2: After she confesses her sex affair and he gets angry,
39:43
Speaker 2: how dare he? She shoots him while he's asleep, that's
39:46
Speaker 2: the allegation, then does a massive cleanup. She gets arrested.
39:52
Speaker 2: The body still hasn't been found. But he's a no show.
39:55
Speaker 2: He's been gone now for weeks, not with his children,
39:59
Speaker 2: not going to work, nothing, not a his vehicle found abandoned.
40:06
Speaker 2: Her children don't have a dad, they don't have a
40:09
Speaker 2: mom because she's behind bars. Her lover has turned against her,
40:14
Speaker 2: and both of her parents have been arrested on felony charges.
40:18
Speaker 2: Yet this mom, it's.
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Speaker 1: All me, me, me, me me, She.
40:23
Speaker 2: Actually says, the judge is torching, setting a fire everything
40:30
Speaker 2: in her life. If you know or think you know
40:36
Speaker 2: anything about this case, including the whereabouts and the movements
40:40
Speaker 2: of the so called glam Mom Jennifer Gladhill, or the
40:46
Speaker 2: location or the whereabouts the movements of her husband's vehicle,
40:50
Speaker 2: dial this number eight zero one eight for zero four thousand,
40:56
Speaker 2: to repeat eight zero one eight for zero four thousand.
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Speaker 2: The investigation is still very much active. Thank you to
41:06
Speaker 2: all of our guests for being with us, but especially
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Speaker 2: to you, Nancy Grace signing off, good night friend,