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- 0:15And here we go second hour show five thousand and fourteen of The Morning Show
- 0:23with Preston Scott. That's Grand Allen over there in Studio one A. I
- 0:27am here sequestered in Studio one B, and by my side is the vice
- 0:33president of Policy for the James Madison Institute, the one the only Seal News.
- 0:36Oh, hello, good morning too. I'm doing great at this lovely
- 0:40hour of the morning. It first, that's weird. It's weird you and
- 0:44I talking in the second hour, not the third. But it's football season.
- 0:47That's comes with the territory. I'm with you. But it's also weird
- 0:50because we have to start talking in earnest now about the upcoming legislative session.
- 0:55It is shocking. They had their first sort of committee week. They had
- 1:00the designation vote for Danny Perez as speaker designated, and they had a couple
- 1:03of committee meetings. But yeah, the full slate of pre session committee weeks
- 1:08starts in October, which is just yeah, yeah, remind everybody once again
- 1:15we have a presidential election. We have a national election coming up. In
- 1:19the way the legislature handles it, yeah, in the even number years,
- 1:23like next year, twenty twenty four, twenty twenty six. The legislature does
- 1:27their session, the sixty day session January to March. In the odd number
- 1:30of years like this, they do it March April May. And that's largely
- 1:34because of the election cycle, whether it's governor or president. Because we have
- 1:40the mid term governor election, they will do it then so that they have
- 1:44that full time of campaigning getting out because they have they do have a ban
- 1:51on any kind of fundraising or campaign activities direct when they are in session,
- 1:55so it just kind of breaks it up when there is an election. I
- 1:59think it would be helpful to give people a little historical perspective on the governor's
- 2:02office in general. Yeah, and uh, kind of well are we talking
- 2:07like? Well, just I mean, I just I got the thinking sal
- 2:10when I when I read your note. The entire time I've been on the
- 2:14air of twenty one years, yep, the governor's office has largely been under
- 2:20the control of conservative leadership. Oh yeah, and it is very difficult for
- 2:25people to comprehend a liberal or left leaning Florida. But but prior to Jeb
- 2:32Bush, which is only I mean you and I can say, only twenty
- 2:37five years ago. But for the vast majority of people that might be listening
- 2:40or that are out there, it's not a frame of reference to them.
- 2:45When Florida was actually controlled by Democrats. Would you what would you say about
- 2:50Bob Martinez? H he would probably be categorized as what we would call these
- 2:57days a rhino, Okay, a moderate, very moderate Republican that was able
- 3:02to get elected as a Republican in the Florida in which he ran because between
- 3:07Martinez and Jeb Bush we had law and child And so here's my question.
- 3:14I think you're accurate in your description of Bob Martinez. Would Florida be where
- 3:20it is right now though, had it not had a transitional moderate Republican as
- 3:24governor. It's a very good question. And I think Bob Martinez set the
- 3:30stage one for Jeb Bush running because Jeb Bush ran against Lawton Childs and lost,
- 3:37and I think it was in Lawton's second term, and then he came
- 3:40back, and so there is absolutely a case to be made that maybe he
- 3:45was a little bit like John the Baptist and proclaiming the future of conservative movements
- 3:51in states in the South, like Florida Governor Rond De Santis, kind of
- 3:55unpack where he is now. Yeah, and this is one where I thought
- 3:59we were going to go there when you ask the question, but I realize
- 4:00you weren't. But kind of unpacking the political environment where how it shifted over
- 4:06the past twenty five years, not just in Florida but nationally, and we
- 4:11have in Rohn de Santis what you could argue is one of the most conservatively
- 4:16accomplished governors in our lifetimes. And by that I mean someone who walks the
- 4:23conservative principles but then also enacted more policy sim signs them than anybody that I
- 4:30can think of in the entire United States now twenty five thirty years ago.
- 4:34That would be the platform for running for president and being successful at it,
- 4:41regardless of the state, Arkansas, Texas, what have you. But against
- 4:45the Trump brand, he's been pilloried as a rhino and it's completely factually inaccurate,
- 4:53but it just doesn't seem to matter. And that is something that shocks
- 4:56me. Is someone who's paid attention to politics for as long as I have
- 5:00Morning show with Preston Scott. You're mocking me, aren't you. Oh no,
- 5:02no, no, no, no no no. I'm News Radio one
- 5:04hundred point seven WFLA. Sal News, Oh, James Madison Institute, our
- 5:17guest. It's one of the stories we talked about. It's a big story
- 5:19in the press box. It's in the news Florida Governor rond De Santis pulling
- 5:25the plug on school vouchers to four different schools, and it's almost unbelievable when
- 5:30you hear it, Sal that have direct ties to the CCP. Yeah,
- 5:35it's an interesting one, and so I tried to look into it a little
- 5:39bit. I didn't find out a whole lot of information, but I did
- 5:42find out some stuff about one particular school, and I can't remember which one
- 5:46it was, so I don't want to misstate. One of the schools is
- 5:49owned by a company who's founder and CEO is basically a Hong Kong China Guy's
- 6:00a member of Yeah, he's a member of the party, and they were
- 6:03like listing out a lot of his tweets and social media and such, and
- 6:09it was remarkable, like the level of kind of tie that there was back
- 6:15So on the other three, I'm not sure about. I am sure there's
- 6:18going to be a whole lot of information coming out, but given the state's
- 6:24stance, you know, kind of pushing back against Chinese influence. We've seen
- 6:28it in higher education with the Confucius Institutes, We've seen it in land buys,
- 6:31We've seen it with banning TikTok on state devices, all of that.
- 6:36I'm not surprised that given the tenor of this, that that's the direction that
- 6:40they're going. And what this does is it means that that school choice money,
- 6:44that vouchers cannot take a student to those schools. That is correct.
- 6:47And these are all charter schools, I believe, so I believe, Well,
- 6:53Nario, let me back up. I don't know. I think one
- 6:56or two of them are charters. There maybe a couple of that are just
- 6:59outright private school okay, but not necessarily within a school district as a typical
- 7:03exactly exactly. Don't quote me on that, but if I remember correctly,
- 7:06that was the case. All Right, let's talk a little bit about the
- 7:10legislature. You mentioned Danny Perez as the future Speaker of the House. Did
- 7:15he give you any indication what's going to matter to him? Yeah? And
- 7:18in fact, in part of his designation speech which happened the morning of the
- 7:25vote, and then he goes up and takes the gave a lot of pomp
- 7:27and circumstance. He did make a mention or two about the legislature asserting its
- 7:32proper role in the system of government within the state of Florida, and a
- 7:39lot of people saw it as kind of a bit of a thinly veiled shot
- 7:43maybe at the administration. They're used of the bully pulpit, how kind of
- 7:47the governor's office. There were a lot of articles about the potential that the
- 7:51governor's office was twisting some artens on some votes, and you know, kind
- 7:57of was that a kind of first step in the road of kind of the
- 8:01legislature taking a little bit more of a prominent role in pushing back. He
- 8:05pushed back completely against that notion. He said that the legislature under House under
- 8:11his leadership, will continue to partner with the governor completely. I expect a
- 8:16lot of that. Philosophically, they're aligned. There's not going to be a
- 8:18whole lot of kind of differences of opinion on policy. But I think there
- 8:22may be a case or two where the governor does not get his way in
- 8:26the way that he got in twenty twenty three. How does it change the
- 8:30governor's relationship with the House and Senate, and let's just say we're going to
- 8:33have a little bit more of the same with Pasodomo and Renter, but then
- 8:39we extend the next two leaders are going to walk the governor out if he
- 8:43does not win the nomination, then the presidency. Yeah, that's correct.
- 8:46So how much difference do you think that makes if ron de Sandis is the
- 8:50quote lame duck governor. I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference,
- 8:54but does it It sure would make a little bit of difference uncertain policy
- 9:00areas where I think the governor may have been a little bit more forward leaning
- 9:03than the legislature was comfortable with at that time, and you know, not
- 9:11being able to see off on the horizon what the threats might be. But
- 9:15a governor sees things that, you know, he's got to make the case
- 9:18to a legislature on wire particular policy track is needed. He's got a new
- 9:24Legislative Affairs director, Peter Kutterman, Stephanie Coppelousas, who's with the Governor's office
- 9:30for a long time, decided to retire. So there's going to need to
- 9:37be I think more of a sales pitch on some of the more forward leaning
- 9:41policy topics. It could be things like this with China, some regulatory things
- 9:46that may come down the pike. But again, the governor's got to make
- 9:50Any governor's got to make a sales pitch to his legislature. He did not
- 9:54have to do that as much in twenty twenty three. If ron De Santis
- 9:58doesn't carry the nomination, let's just set aside the general election. He doesn't
- 10:01carry the nomination. Does he lose clout in Florida with the legislature. I
- 10:05don't think he loses clout because he's got most of the legislature in his corner,
- 10:11doesn't he. And yes, even in his presidential work, Yes,
- 10:15and he won the governor's race by twenty points. I mean that still is
- 10:20a fact of how Florida looks from a legislative and policy world. I just
- 10:26I don't see him losing a whole lot of a moxie with the legislature.
- 10:31Twenty two minutes pass sal Newzer with me from the James Madison Institute. We're
- 10:35talking, We're really talking about the twenty twenty four legislative session now as we
- 10:41look ahead, and how much of that gets hammered out right now in committee
- 10:45weeks as they unfold, Oh a ton of not necessarily the bills moving through.
- 10:50They'll move some priority stuff to tee it up for that first week of
- 10:52session. But a lot of what you're going to see happen in committee weeks
- 10:56is bill's beginning to kind of come through drafting, get introduced, get reference
- 11:01to the various committees that they're going to go to. You'll begin to see,
- 11:07you know, pay attention to the numbers HB one, s B,
- 11:11you know, four or whatever. You know, those are some of the
- 11:15things that I think you're going to see a lot of and get a sense
- 11:18of what the legislature really going to want to kind of kick off in January.
- 11:24Is it too much of a layman's guide to say single digit bills or
- 11:30double digit bills have priority? Uh? Single digit bills, Yes, that's
- 11:33generally where you get your your priorities from leadership in both the House and the
- 11:37Senate. Double digit bills, I think you're talking just kind of when they
- 11:41come out and when they get filed into into bill filing, the topics that
- 11:46are must address topics? Is your list based on what you think they need
- 11:52to be doing or what you're hearing they're going to do hearing, so and
- 11:58I'm going to stress that, you know, am I focuses on economic issue,
- 12:01so there's probably some social stuff that are in there as well that we
- 12:05don't tackle or I haven't been Party two kind of the discussions, but just
- 12:09on the economic side, single biggest thing you're going to hear I think in
- 12:13the course of twenty twenty four is going to be on healthcare. I've already
- 12:18heard two speeches from the House Speaker, Paul Renner. There are big challenges
- 12:24of Florida faces with respect to healthcare, and it's a function of our success.
- 12:31So you have roughly nine hundred two thousand people moving to the state a
- 12:35day. The state is growing by several hundred thousand a year. Two thirds
- 12:39of that population growth is over the age of sixty, So that's the cohort
- 12:45of the population that consumes the most healthcare. It's not an insurance question.
- 12:50It's not a we've got a tinker with Medicaid or Medicare or what have you.
- 12:54It's an access question. We do not have enough practitioners at all levels.
- 13:00And so what happens when you don't have practitioners is you have shortages and
- 13:05you have time constraints. So I believe I saw a stat that we are
- 13:09thirty something, maybe thirty first or thirty second in primary care physicians per capita
- 13:15among the fifty states. That's not good for a growth state. So if
- 13:18you think about it, you need to get to a doctor. You've got
- 13:22a six eight ten week wait in order to see that doctor. That's on
- 13:26the horizon. So I think we're going to see a whole lot of things
- 13:31done on the access and affordability piece of healthcare in the coming session. What
- 13:37are the other priorities you think are coming? Sure? Energy it is a
- 13:41big issue, especially kind of countering what the Biden administration has been doing.
- 13:45They're going to look at how can we promote better energy development, consumption,
- 13:50transmission, distribution. Also, is it going to be trying to find end
- 13:54arounds to what Biden is doing and is done by even though, for example,
- 13:58there's a federal ruling on a rule that the Biden administration put on oil
- 14:03and gas leases in the Gulf, federal judge said you can't do that.
- 14:07Is it doing ends around or is it working within the system we got?
- 14:11I think a little bit of both. I don't think it's a an either
- 14:13or. I think it's a all right, what do we need to kind
- 14:16of work around the Biden administration rules and regulations? What can we do within
- 14:20the context of Florida to kind of promote the existing system, expand out generation
- 14:28and development, and again, with a gross state, when demand goes up,
- 14:33prices go up. So it's going to be something that they're going to
- 14:35tackle, as well as some ideas on how to kind of sidestep some of
- 14:41the ev stuff that's coming down the pike. I know you're gonna have to
- 14:43go lightning here, but does Florida need to consider discouraging the purchase of evs.
- 14:50I don't know if it's an outright discouragement, but I think there's going
- 14:54to be some pushback on any of the incentives that come down the way.
- 14:56Okay, what's left. Big thing in Florida still property insurance. I think
- 15:01they're going to come back. They're going to figure out if there's anything that
- 15:05they've got to tweak, especially on the insurance side, not just the torch
- 15:09side, which they tackled last session. Tech and innovation. It is going
- 15:13to permeate all different policy areas. But I think you're going to see quite
- 15:18a bit of conversation on what should the state and potentially the local government's roles
- 15:24be in regulating things like artificial intelligence, drone delivery, all of these things
- 15:31that are kind of new in the sense that they're now being developed and deployed
- 15:35in ways that we didn't have even just a couple of years ago. I
- 15:39would also expect to see some work done to the point of our prior segment
- 15:43on fine tuning the school choice language ESA availability. I've also heard of some
- 15:50speed bumps on kind of the deployment of payments to the school, so I
- 15:56would expect what you would call a glitch bill, which is kind of a
- 15:58clean bill to come from at least the House on there. Can't wait to
- 16:03see what happens. It's going to be a fun session. I am really
- 16:07looking forward to it. See you next month. Always a pleasure of my
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