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Episode 298: Whispers (SG-A 5.07) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We we should, we should start this one whispering? Why
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  Speaker 1: because it's got whispers? Oh stuff, Okay, I'll turn your
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  Speaker 1: micro right up, yeah, because I can.
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  Speaker 2: Can you do?
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  Speaker 1: Can you? Can you do?
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  Speaker 2: As Mr?
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  Speaker 1: With these fancy microphones. Mine better than yours. My microphone's
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  Speaker 1: better than yours.
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  Speaker 2: Just just does yours have a pop sock?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the little screeny. But don't laugh when I say this.
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  Speaker 1: But my wife says that I have a particularly loud swallow.
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  Speaker 1: So here we guys, I take a sip of water.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that was delightful, all right. Yeah, this is not
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  Speaker 2: how we initially started the podcast Truth be Told. We
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  Speaker 2: had an issue with the episode two nine six Ghosts
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  Speaker 2: in the Machine. We actually recorded that podcast the same
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  Speaker 2: day that we did this one. If you heard the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of that podcast, we lost the podcast. The audio
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  Speaker 2: went missing and then we found a different version of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's poor quality. That's what's about to follow here as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate you know, break any disillusions anyone may have.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, sometimes we record more episodes, more than one
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  Speaker 3: episode at a time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as much as we like to fake it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but as does your wife, and she talks about your.
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  Speaker 2: But we've been swallowing, have been We've been called way
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  Speaker 2: more dirty than I bringing this. This will be the
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  Speaker 2: episode that she goes, you know what. I'm actually going
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  Speaker 2: to listen to it, you know, because occasionally she'll ask me,
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  Speaker 2: she does it bother you that I don't listen to
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  Speaker 2: your podcast? I no, like I, you wouldn't have any
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  Speaker 2: context about what we're talking about. But this will be
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  Speaker 2: the one she says, you know, you know what, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? This will be the one that I listened to.
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  Speaker 3: She will have fantastic references. When we start our own
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  Speaker 3: Gilmore Girl's podcast, though, she'll absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: You and her or you yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: When we start out Gilmore Girl's podcast, well, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't really seen it. I've just been in and out.
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  Speaker 3: We can't use the we can't use Gilmore guys though,
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  Speaker 3: No get into Gilmore Dumb Sorted podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Indergate episode two hundred and ninety eight. Oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 2: that milestone is so close. So am I by the
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  Speaker 2: sound of things, bitch and Maddy me too. I'm very
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  Speaker 2: close to finishing my red Ripper.
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  Speaker 3: And that is the name that it has always been
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  Speaker 3: and always Shelby mm hmm, never been called anything else.
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  Speaker 2: There's never been a Native American on the rapper though,
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  Speaker 2: No Hendrick, do they have anything on the now?
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  Speaker 3: No Rippers even changed. Chickos and our cheekys. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: little cheeky, little cheeky.
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  Speaker 2: God, I love a cheeky, don't I love it. I
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  Speaker 2: love to say red. I love a Red Ripper all
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  Speaker 2: the way. See what I want to get on the
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  Speaker 2: way home bit of Red Rooster. Great people who are oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know I love I drive past and they have
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  Speaker 2: like their little vinyl banners out there saying, you know
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  Speaker 2: what the what the special years five dollars fifty lunch specially, Well,
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  Speaker 2: you can't get past that. Yeah, you get that, you
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  Speaker 2: get the sub the five dollars sub lunch. Like that's peak,
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  Speaker 2: that's excellent.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the other day, when we're talking about bachelor's handbags,
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  Speaker 3: and I went to Red Rooster to get a hot chalk,
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  Speaker 3: and I was actually going to get I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 3: they'd be waiting if I just get two of those,
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  Speaker 3: like quarter chicken and chips are five fifty.
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  Speaker 2: But no, the lunch special moment was one of being
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  Speaker 2: like cheeseburgers or something. Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, okay, I
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  Speaker 2: see what you're doing. I won't be a part of it.
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  Speaker 3: Get the mate, just gip that goat cave sing at
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  Speaker 3: the eight dollar bucket, eight pieces of chicken.
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  Speaker 2: Freight eight bucks, see great value, eight tenders freight bucks.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a bit of a rip.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like well because they charged so much for
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  Speaker 3: those tenders normally, like it's normally like six woolies and.
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  Speaker 2: Take a packet home to my air fry. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I've taken that at least twice. Is that maybe twenty?
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  Speaker 3: I think about that with nuggets exactly, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: I if I get it, because they stopped McDonald's stopped
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  Speaker 3: doing the twenty four piece for nine to ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Five, but I haven't seen that for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it's like if if you go and
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  Speaker 3: get like the Ingham temporu ones from cold yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: get twenty four for five.
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  Speaker 2: But look on that you're paying for the service of
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  Speaker 2: being cooked for you. When all the you know, wonderful
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  Speaker 2: herbs and spices at KFC or whatever they did go
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  Speaker 2: going on at back as as well. Obviously not the
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  Speaker 2: Colonel stuff they got the thing they got the clown herbs,
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  Speaker 2: but you know. At the same time. I went out
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  Speaker 2: to like the shops near the airport not too long ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my kids wanted some nuggets. I went up there. I said, oh,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm looking up and said nuggets and it was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, dollar fifty or something. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder how many? I said how many? So how
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  Speaker 2: many nuggets? I think my boy I was doing. I
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  Speaker 2: was embarrassed in case I got they said, I have
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  Speaker 2: any nuggets for a dollar fifty and the woman just
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  Speaker 2: looked at him and like laugh, He's ten and she
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  Speaker 2: laughed and was like one. And I'm like a dollar
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  Speaker 2: fifty per nugget? Are you high? Yeah? What's it like?
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  Speaker 2: Six nuggets? You're gonna pay nine dollars? Like crazy? Y,
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  Speaker 2: that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of embarrassment, though, when the when I've been taking
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  Speaker 3: the American Continer around to see places and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: took them to the casino.
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  Speaker 2: And I was really craving.
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  Speaker 3: In America they call it a Shirley temple where it's
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  Speaker 3: just like your lemonade with your grenadine in it and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes a drop cherry in it. I really wanted one
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  Speaker 3: because I'm not into gambling, so I was just wondering,
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  Speaker 3: and I went to walk up to the bar to
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  Speaker 3: buy one, but there are two big burly blokes behind
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  Speaker 3: the bar, so chickened out and didn't go.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I've been there. I've been there too. We are
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  Speaker 2: talking stargates. We're talking specifically storegates. Atlantic'sa and none of
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  Speaker 2: those great people we mentioned, or Gavory. The things that
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  Speaker 2: I would do for those eleven herbs and spices made
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  Speaker 2: right now. We'll just get an order anyway, next time Whispers,
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  Speaker 2: episode seven of season five, rip into this the old
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  Speaker 2: snaps into what we thought Guys while exploring an abandoned
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  Speaker 2: catacomb on an unexplored planet and Atlanta's away team, not
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  Speaker 2: the home scene they were in their away strip, uncovers
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  Speaker 2: one of Michael's secret labs. It's given away a little
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  Speaker 2: bit there in the thing, but it wasn't that big
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  Speaker 2: of a deal to find out it's from Michael. But
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  Speaker 2: still written by John Paul this one. Yeah, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I love getting off World. Yeah, I've getting off World
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  Speaker 2: when it's in Atlantis. You never actually see the stargate.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well that's true. Also Star Trek, Star Trek, Star Trek,
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  Speaker 2: What can I go? Can you bail out of this one,
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  Speaker 2: and you want to bail out of this one? Come on, mates,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think A yeah, okay, look, you know
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hate it, but at the same time, you
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  Speaker 2: know it'd probably be I think we're aware of where
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  Speaker 2: it'll probably sit at the end of the season, and
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  Speaker 2: I can understand why you, as someone who has already
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  Speaker 2: seen it and having to rewatch it for the sake
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  Speaker 2: of the podcast, would want to bail early. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's a zombie episode. It's that's all it is.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like that's fine, that's fine. But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, like I don't know, knowing that this show
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  Speaker 2: ends at the end of this season, is this is
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  Speaker 2: this really what like one of the episodes that you
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  Speaker 2: either knew you were getting canceled and so you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we have to do this or I guess that's all
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  Speaker 2: it could be because you look on hindsight going damn,
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  Speaker 2: like the fact that you utilize one of your final
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  Speaker 2: forty two minutes to do this again. Not that it's
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  Speaker 2: this great, big pile of shit, but like when we
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  Speaker 2: know that we've got, you know, just over ten left,
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  Speaker 2: come on, yeah, it's funny you say that.
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  Speaker 3: I wish i'd grabbed the audio now, because Joe was
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  Speaker 3: in the audio commentary and he said something along those
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  Speaker 3: lines of when they're planning out the season, they said, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we obviously we need you know, this episode, this episode, this,
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  Speaker 3: this is you know, and they planned out the season
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  Speaker 3: and then they had about, you know, three spots left,
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  Speaker 3: and Joe's a massive what.
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  Speaker 2: Do you call it here?
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  Speaker 3: They called it k horror or jay horror, and that
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  Speaker 3: could just because I'm thinking about K pop, but I'd
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  Speaker 3: say a Jay horror in terms of Japanese horror, and
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  Speaker 3: that's what the inspiration was. That's why you had the
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  Speaker 3: zombie crawling out of the well, like from the ring
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: He just wanted to do a horror episode. And that's
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  Speaker 2: fair way I understand that, Like, regardless of what you're making,
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  Speaker 2: if you are making a show like this where you
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  Speaker 2: get twenty episodes or so a season, that you want
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  Speaker 2: to scratch an itch and this is a horror show,
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  Speaker 2: but it's still a horror themed episode. Yeah, and let's
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  Speaker 2: do a bit more of a you know, hey, like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just as much as you love recent star
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  Speaker 2: Trek Brave Brave New World Strange New Worlds, and they
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  Speaker 2: do like a musical episode or up episode in Star Trek.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, you know what they need to do, muppets,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, Coppy Buffy again and here
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  Speaker 2: we you know, we get zombies. I don't know about
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  Speaker 2: the idea. When they're like, oh, even Michael couldn't control
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  Speaker 2: and that's why they're all frozen, I'm like, were you
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  Speaker 2: just taking them down with a couple of bullets? Yeah? Really?
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  Speaker 2: And all the Wraith stuff they've got going on, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a way of girls and.
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  Speaker 3: He controlling him at the start of the episode because
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  Speaker 3: the inference and you only find this out, like it's
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  Speaker 3: only confirmed in the audio commentary.
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  Speaker 2: Is in that opening with the two village guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they get attacked by one of the hybrids and
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  Speaker 3: then when the other one runs away and runs into
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  Speaker 3: a person in the gas mask, that's Michael. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: Michael was in control because you know, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But it's also like, why do we need the one
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  Speaker 3: year later?
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Like Michael is technically, as far as we know dead,
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  Speaker 3: you know, based on when we saw him last. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we we know, like the puddle Jumper disappeared somebody style
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  Speaker 3: soything going on.
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  Speaker 2: So it's one of those like is he isn't he?
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  Speaker 3: But I'm like, yeah, I don't know why we needed
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  Speaker 3: to tie this into the Michael and the Hybrids and
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  Speaker 3: make it a oh it's a different version of the
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  Speaker 3: This is now the third iteration of the hybrids, because
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  Speaker 3: we had the big alien monster giant ratus bug version ones,
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  Speaker 3: then we had Taylor's boyfriend, which is like the end version,
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  Speaker 3: and then this was some other weird middle version with
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  Speaker 3: smoke gills and no eyes and stuff like.
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  Speaker 2: That, because like, yeah, if they end up with this planet,
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  Speaker 2: they just you know, do some research into the computer
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  Speaker 2: in some books, you know, some papers left around and go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is an experiment that went wrong. They were trying
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  Speaker 2: to hybrid creative creatures. Might have been to try and
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  Speaker 2: heal people. Have just been a natural it didn't have.
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  Speaker 2: Like two weeks ago, it was played off as a joke.
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  Speaker 3: Where they were running into like these flying monkeys with beaks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it could have it
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  Speaker 3: didn't have to be human ORID. It could have been
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  Speaker 3: a natural predator on the planet, you know, because yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I just like the mist coming out of their gills.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so it interfered with electronics. I think
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  Speaker 3: that was the only benefit of the mist. But then
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  Speaker 3: it's like, well, most of the Pegasus galaxy don't have electronics,
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  Speaker 3: so it's only going to be beneficial against us, Like
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  Speaker 3: would it interfere with Wraith tech? Like, I mean, he
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  Speaker 3: created them and they were in the pods and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: so surely at some point they excreted the mist and
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  Speaker 3: it would or wouldn't have interfered with Michael's.
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  Speaker 2: Tech, Like, okay, so they were they were out, we
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  Speaker 2: see Michael and the mask, you know, cut to credits,
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  Speaker 2: and even just that, it was like it felt like
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  Speaker 2: the start of you know, a Supernatural episode and the
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  Speaker 2: X Files episode or something where it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the start of the episode had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: our heroes really. I mean, I know, we get a
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: little bit of it with the one year later, but like,
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  Speaker 2: up until that moment, it felt like it kind of
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  Speaker 2: felt like an entirely different show.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, and I think it must have been a
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  Speaker 3: note because in the audio commentary, Joe said the original
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: opening scene was the one in It's quarters when he's
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: packing up that they then redo at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the episode. Yeah, that was the original opening. There never
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: was that the weird spooky opening with the one year later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, so yeah, I don't get it. I just
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  Speaker 3: think it was executed poorly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're out obviously he can't control them. He's
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: out there hunting them down anyway, Michael, you know whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Cuts to one year later they find the mask and
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, what happened to this guy?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: But then when they arrive, our team arrives in the planet,
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  Speaker 2: they go down to the lab, they see these figures,
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  Speaker 2: silhouettes almost you know, inside these tubes. They then run
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  Speaker 2: into the old villager whose they go, hey, man, some
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  Speaker 2: really crazy shit happens every night. People go missing. Every day,
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  Speaker 2: people go missing. Man, it's not safey. We need to leave.
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  Speaker 2: And then of course nightfall happens. These creatures come back.
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  Speaker 2: But then they go back to the lab. The creatures
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: are out of the tubes, and then old Dickhead says, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I actually I did it. I unleash them. It's like cool,
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  Speaker 2: So now all the stuff that you told us that's
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: been happening is happening. But it's only because you just
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: opened it up. So when you've been saying, oh, up
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  Speaker 2: until like forever now, for the last like eighteen months,
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  Speaker 2: people have been going missing all the time. How if
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  Speaker 2: it was just these creatures, how was that happening when
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: you had to unleash the monsters yourself? And not to
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  Speaker 2: say that after we saw Michael that he immediately locked
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: them up, But we're assuming that happened within reason over
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  Speaker 2: the next year. So Week controlled them enough to be
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  Speaker 2: able to lock them up. Yeah, So surely at least
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  Speaker 2: for the last little while, those creatures had been locked
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  Speaker 2: up in those cryo tubes or whatever. Yeah, So what
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  Speaker 2: was old Mate talking about when he's like, it happens
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  Speaker 2: all the time, day and night. There's nowhere that's safe.
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  Speaker 2: We need to get back to the village. People are
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  Speaker 2: dying all the time.
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  Speaker 3: And then at the end of the episode, once it's
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  Speaker 3: established that they hunt by sound, that's when he decides
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  Speaker 3: to get huffy and yelled.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, but there's always stupid people in horror movies.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that. But like, you know, he'd been as like,
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: at the end, we need someone to be sacrificed. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we'd already lost one of the one of the old
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  Speaker 2: women team, and then we've got this guy who's.
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  Speaker 4: There looking at you know what, you guys are a
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: bunch of idiots. If we didn't look straight through the door,
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: like dude, we've already like come on, man, Like again,
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: not even a him. It's more of a riding thing
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  Speaker 4: and nothing against John Paul.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I get that we needed to move things along,
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  Speaker 2: but like, does it have to just jump from this
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  Speaker 2: guy who was scared, who would have done the right
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  Speaker 2: thing to him just being angry and yelling, going if
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  Speaker 2: these things are run on sound, if they find that's
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  Speaker 2: it's all your fault. What are you doing? Come on?
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  Speaker 3: I think there would have been way more interesting avenue
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  Speaker 3: to explore, like the moment. And again Beckett wasn't any
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  Speaker 3: better when he leaves Oh Love in the in the
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  Speaker 3: hut to go and find the third member of their
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  Speaker 3: little sort of split half group, and then he gets,
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  Speaker 3: you know, chased down by the bald one. And then
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  Speaker 3: there's a point where it kind of comes in from
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  Speaker 3: the top and Beckett just stops breathing or whatever, and
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: suddenly you can't see him.
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  Speaker 2: It's gone full Jurassic Park.
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  Speaker 3: I actually at that moment, I thought, oh, we can
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  Speaker 3: smell that he's another creation of Michael's and he's not
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  Speaker 3: going to hurt it, and like that would have been
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  Speaker 3: a cool thing to explore, that if Beckett had some
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  Speaker 3: kind of natural immunity to them because he's also a
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  Speaker 3: creation of Michael. Yeah, I think that would have been
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  Speaker 3: a cool sort of thing to explore.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't leave him behind. They didn't doing especially,
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  Speaker 2: and he ran off, you know, with the gun when
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  Speaker 2: he was supposed to stay this. He's like, I can't
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were two groups of three, so he and
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it Ezra because I'll give that one
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  Speaker 3: for that.
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  Speaker 2: But she's from she's from face ninety. We'll get more
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: into that later.
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  Speaker 3: But Beckett was with her, so at least the two
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: of those were safe while the sergeant was off doing
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: her job. Well, now when he goes to gunn, now
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: there are just three single people in a horror move
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: like dumb in the miss some dumb dumb dum dum
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: dumb dumb.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: You asked for it. Yeah, and you're looking to get
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: out of here, so yeah, that's fine. Yeah, So yeah, and.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Did you iven know we know you're you know, sixty
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: forty Lewis, you were probably folding laundry, while.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think I think I told you as much.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see the fist bump from whom to whom?
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: From Shepherd and Beckett? I didn't.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: When they arrive on the planet, after we about having
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: to walk all the distance and for some reason, John
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: is introduced to the members of the team. When he's
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: the military commander of the base, he should know, he
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: should know them all and know that that's the team.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Then as the team starts walking off, Beckett and Shepard.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think I saw that, like the back home
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: and give each other little fist bumb and go. I didn't.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it happen, but like based on their
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: body language in the way that did, they just almost
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: like high five or or fist bump because they're excited
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: that there's women. Yeah, there's women, Like really, and I
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: did find that a little bit stranger. He rocks up, Oh,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: and she's like, what are you surprised for all women?
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: He's like, no, I wasn't gonna say that, But also, yeah,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: like how do you not know that? Like, yeah, have
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you going to meet these guys?
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, surely, I mean, and I could see again
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: out of jail free card where you go. Oh, now
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: that Woolsey's in command, he's approving things without John. So
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: but I feel like John, being the military leader of
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: the expedition, he should know all four of I mean,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: he already knows Vager because she was the one that
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I pointed out in search and rescue. She was one
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: of the gun that took out the.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: The raith d.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like, yeah, he should know that whole
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: team before they're cleared to go on off full the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: missions that that didn't make any sense to me, But yeah,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: apparently we were the only ones that had issues with
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: the fist bump, well.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: The fist bump, the infamous fist bump, and a lot
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: of fans went crazy. They were like, how, you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: how juvenile of the guys And I hate to see it,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: but men are juvenile. And actually that was a little
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: ad lib from from Joe and Paul, which I really
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: liked him.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Captain you grow an adults, You grow an adults with
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: a TV show, because you know what, Joe, you know what,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: We can all be juvenile men, can't we?
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Number three please mention now that sequence that was a
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: stunt double who was actually jerked off or well back
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: by man or a stunt coordinator.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: She landed on a map is the same episode. Yes,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: this is an absolute goal. Yeah, that you found Yep,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: we can all be juvenile, We certainly can. We certainly can.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: You know we are we are but simple men, but
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: simple creatures. Yeah, and like you know, different if it
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: was I don't know, like if it was four, Like
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Like it's I mean, it hasn't been established on screen,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: but we know from Search and Rescue, from the bonus
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: speeches that Vegas a lesbian. She was hitting on juel
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: State back in her first episode. So they got no
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: shot with her, fair enough. Yeah, and I don't think
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: sergeant what's her name? She she was having no part
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: of it. She was not interested in any of either
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: of those men.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: That was so funny. Yeah, just all I mean, okay,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I don't have the audio here, but I really want
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I should get from my hot keys the little giggle
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: of of Beckett, like he's sitting there talking to old
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: love and just like you know, nerding out together. And
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: then you've got so who was watching them.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: H Sergeant Mary or something. I just she's the sergeant. Ye.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And then the sergeants sitting over in the what are
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: otherwise be in the cut chair. Yeah, and she's sitting
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: there reading a book and whatever. He said. She's like
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: what And I'm just laughing in something that I read.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: And then he's like it was really obvious. Yeah, so
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: what about you? You know, why why why did you
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: come to the pegasusy? She's I know, I just wanted to,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you know, it just seemed like I would have more
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: adventures here. It wasn't It wasn't any way shape or
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: form something that was funny. It wasn't like over exaggerard
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: of the laugh. He laughed where there was no need
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: for a laugh. And you're not the adventure she's talking,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and then just the sergeant gu.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Alright, I'll see you guys later, unless you put a
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: sock on the door.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know what that it's funny,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: like you know, it's it's making it awkward, but you're
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: like also, it's not even like hey, you two look
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: like you're flirting. It's this is so painfully like yeah, childish,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: neither of you know what to do. This is the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: moment where I step in and go, now this is
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: where one of you touches the other one, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: like it just had that I just love. He's like, oh,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: what's she's such a character?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: You tell that she's not someone who wants to be
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: in the cutare She's like a.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Ship. Well, we'll have to get to it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: So that character we're just talking about doctor Coulter or
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Corner or whatever her name was, that's Nicole Deboua. She
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: played Ezra Dax in Deep Space nine season so much
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: in the way we were talking about two weeks ago
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: with the go to the machine and replacing doctor Weir
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: seen Deep Space nine who's still in the midst of it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: So a character, an actress that you know very well.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Terry Farrell from Becker I Do Okay. She was in
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the first six seasons of Ditch Base nine played the
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: character named jed.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Z a Dak.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's coming, it's a long bow. It's a long bow.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: So she was a trill character that had a symbiote
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: inside her. Her name was jed Za. The symbiote inside of
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: her was named Dax and she was the eighth host
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: of the Dak symbiot Well contract negotiations very much liked
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Tory Higginson broke down with Terry Farrell and at the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: end of season six, her character was killed off. Between seasons,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: they then cast Nicole Deboua, who with the doctor in
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: this episode, she was also a trill. They put the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Dax symbiote inside her and different to symbiotes in this show,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: she had a symbion. It carries all the memories. So
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: jen Z a Dax. She was a twenty eight year
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: old woman, but she had one hundreds of years of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: knowledge of the other seven people that came before her.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: So then Nicole Debaua's character, they put the Dak sim
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: being inside of her and put her on the space
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: station and now she suddenly had all of Terry Farrell's
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: knowledge and experience, and then she was the new character
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: for the show for the last So it's very much
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: in the same way they replaced Story with with Fran
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. Ironically, Nicole dea Bowl was
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the one that replaced Terry Farrell in Deep Space. I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: would have brought in an action figure, but they I
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: don't actually have one of Ezra.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Well, how have you let that happen? Yeah, well they
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: only made one, only made one, and it's very very rare.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It's like three hundred bucks that Like, I'm not gonna
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: do that. Yeah. This whole time, you've been saying that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: this is carries over the memory and like I just thought, oh,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: like I can't think of the name the Tokra mar
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: two's girlfriend. Oh, Jolin, Joel and SAMs and I I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: was way off. I just remember like every time Joel
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and I would come memory and we finally hit a
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: moment where we said to Reese, that's the last we'll
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: ever hear of Joel.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: He was like you.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Because it was like four seasons later. Well, that just
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: reminds me off. I tell me Joelner. Oh god, zero
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: days without a mention of Joelner.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, I I may have given you a
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: bum steer. Back in Search and Rescue with Vega, I
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: thought Vega survived to the end of this season. Because
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: there is and I guess this is I'm going to
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: try and not spoil it for you, but to anybody
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: who's listening who has seen Enemy at the Gate, there's
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: a scene with a bunch of characters on the balcony,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: and I thought Vega was the character on the balcony,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: but she died in this episode.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So it's someone else.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It's someone else, So yeah, that kind of sucks because
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I kept expecting Vega to come back. But yeah, like
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: because John didn't even say she's dead or anything like that. Yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: and then later on when someone asked about it, he goes,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: she's gone, So I thought, oh, she's gonna.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Come back at the end and rescue someone she's dead. Yeah,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: so that kind of sucked.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And then obviously no Tailor, no Ronan, no Woolsey, no Keller.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's got to be a record for the
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: amount of non and even like Rodney only gets two little,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: tiny tiny scenes at the.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Top of the bottom. Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Something that I thought was quite funny is if you
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: it's and it onlyways pointed out to me in the
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: audio commentary, if you look closely at Joe in this
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: episode for the entire episode, he's wearing a turtleneck, which
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: apparently is a dicky. It's not a real turtle neck,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: it's just a little half one because apparently, in I
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: don't know, the previous episode, of the one before Joe
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Flanagan had an issue with what his neck looked like.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: He didn't like how his neck looked, so he requested
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: a turtleneck. So he starts apparently throughout and I guess
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: it must come and go for the rest of the season,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: but he's wearing he's wearing a turtleneck because he doesn't
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: like the way.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: His neck looks h if.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: You recognize that all major Teldy the the leader of
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the of.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: The team in the very much so. She was in Sentinel, remember.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Back in like season five of s G one where
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: we're inside like the dam and there's all that technology
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: in there and there's like an n I D member
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: in there, a girl there. But what she's more recognizable
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: as is she was takeya. She was in the Spirits
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: episode with all the Native American aliens, Vagina faced aliens.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: She was one with the short red spiky hair. Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: the girl one that did did this thing in the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: silver outfit. So that's her. And then unfortunately there was
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: a cut scene I think it was either in the
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: first scene or the end scene with McKay where we
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: actually get some resolution.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: To Beckett's turtles. What ironic because Joe's wearing a turtle neck.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Actually, in the version, Beckett has reclaimed his turtles and
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: mackay has to part with them because he's been kind
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: of a baby sitting at them. Well he's he's been away.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: And I actually name the turtles Michelle and Jeffrey after
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: two of the organizers. I think Michell Jeffrey and actually
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Terror Jeffries is the last name, and and Jen, who
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: were the organizers of the Save Beckett. I thought that
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: would be kind of a nice shout up, but unfortunately
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: we had to lose it for time.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: That sucks. That's a cool place of trivia that year.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, that's really Shell and Jeffrey.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: He's weirby turtles named after the two people that spearheaded
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the Save Beckett campaign. And I think it's kind of
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: sweet too that obviously, at some point Beckett did get
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: them back from Earth and brought them to Atlantis, but
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: then after his death, McKay was.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Looking after them in his quarters. I thought was kind
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: of a nice thing. Yeah, I'm just thinking, I know
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: that we get to the end and he goes off
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: to you know, become his own little doctor elsewhere. Maybe
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: he's going to a planet of turtles. We don't know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: but hope it's not a planet of just women or
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: he'll lose his mind. He's gonna fist pump over it. Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: how many of the woona went in bits? You're all
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: bare foot? I don't know. I don't know what to think.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I like, I likes, but like, I don't know. I
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: just I have found myself looking at even this episode
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, yeah, that's right. Like you died,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you died. It was a big thing for the show.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It was a big thing for other characters to let
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: go of you. You came back, which was big. We
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: then had to say goodbye to you again because we
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: couldn't keep you around because you weren't the real one.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: But we could just kill you off because that seems
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: a bit odd for the actor, like, hey, thanks to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: your time, were killing you off. You know what, We'll
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: bring you back, but maybe keep We might not, We
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: might get back to you. We might. And now he's back,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and then they've just again left an open end. But
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like now the consistency of like bringing him
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: back every couple of episodes is happening, and it just
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: feels a bit like okay. So again, at the time,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: they obviously didn't think that they would be doing this.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sure where they kneeled and wander to kill him. No,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: it was supposed to be a final thing. Was only
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: because of the same Beckett campaigns and stuff like that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: So now he's back and it's almost like, yeah, that
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: he never it's a clone of him. Yeah. I don't
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: know that we ever get any resolution to.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Did he go home and tell his mother that the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: military man mistaken he is alive, or does everybody back
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: on Earth in civilian life think that he's dead and
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: it's just hard to move. Only exists in the Pegasus galaxy,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: and he has to say goodbye to his previous life.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And that's where he needs a little bit of that
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: replicator sort of stuff in that I was talking about
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: with Weird a couple of weeks ago that like, she
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: you know, in my head, I think I was saying
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: something like she had to be okay with the idea
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: that she's going to live forever. She would almost need
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to replicate a part of her mind to override that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that she would have a'm gonna do for eternity. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: am human at my core, whereas, yeah, Beckett had a love,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: he's got family, he's got his mother, and he just
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: now like has to go but on the clone and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: she she's going to miss the original. It's like, but
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: your memories are real, Like they're not, but like you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: to you, they are everything to you. Your memories, your love,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: everything is real to you. And you have to be
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: okay with saying goodbye to all of that because you're
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: not the real one.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because at this point, we've kind of established that
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: he's obviously safe. Yeah, because they're letting him go on
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: missions and stuff like that, so they know that he
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: doesn't have any kind of suggestive programming and stuff in
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: his head that he's going to make him a risk
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. So yeah, does his family just
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: have to think that he's well, I mean he is dead,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: like his family are, you know, the real the real
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Beckett is dead. But yeah, if i'm if I'm a
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: clone of me and the real me is dead, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna want to be like, well, can't I just
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: tell my family that, like he said when he came back,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: can't I just tell them that the military made a mistake?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Well, the military, deb would never would never accept that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: They never mistakes, absolutely not kill Mama, go I'm back,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: you're attack. Yeah.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know, but yeah, it does smack
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: a little bit of like this season. Obviously, it's like
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: two episodes ago they tried to be rear back and
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: now here they're bringing backet back, so they're just like, oh, yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: we're just correcting all the mistakes that we made that
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: we shouldn't have done in the first place.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't know whether it's just because I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: know this show is about to end, but I'm watching
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: it and I'm not sitting there going, oh, so there's
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: no stakes in this universe, Like I'm not. I'm still
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: not thinking that way. I still feel like, Okay, we're
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: not going to see how main characters get killed. But
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: at the same time, I'm not sitting there thinking, well,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: no one ever dies, yeah, and if someone does, well
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that's fine, they'll be back in the next episode. Like
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not thinking that way. But again, it might just
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: be skewed because I know this show is going to end,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't really matter whether they keep bringing them
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: back because they're not gonna the show is not gonna
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: survive long enough to either justify or whatever them. I
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm a bit lost because yeah, two made
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: enough characters get killed only to be brought back in
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: different ways and then everyone just push on and accept it. Yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: it never happened in the first place.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: So in poor Rainbow still unemployed, well in two thousand
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and eight, you know what I mean.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever he's doing now, I'm sure he's fine. Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely forgot about Becket being in this episode.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I just remember this as the all female team and
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: the mist That's all I remembered about this episode. In fact,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I think in my brain I combined this with that
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: weird sleepy episode of SG one, that one where they're
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: on that planet and they're all trying to stop from
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: falling asleep because they die because of the lizard and
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: stuff like that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, are very similar episodes to me, Like, Okay,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: this has made in no way. I want to say
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: that people are a little bit smarter when they watched
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: it back then, but like, I'm watching it in twenty
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: twenty five, so I look at it wondering what people
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: these days are thinking about it if they see this
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: all women team. It was kind of a setup to
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: have the boys be boys, and like, oh, chicks, we're
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: gonna get to hang around with ladies for the next
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: couple of days. That was sort of it, And then
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, I said the best of the best.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: It just happened to be. Well, I thought she was
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the best scientist. I thought she was the best you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a secondary military person, whatever it might be. If you
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: do that now, well it's actually not even that. It's
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: really not that big of a deal if you do
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it as the second team. But if they brought Stargate back,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: half of them are women, get two and two, people like, wow,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: what's this? Won't shit? Won't you know one of them's
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: not white? Oh that's what. Yeah, but that's like you
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you can't you couldn't do it now because people like
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: man the other teams we'll hang on. But I thought
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: you had a problem with an all female teams. No,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I don't. I just I'd rather the second It's like, so, right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the main team can't be the one that you're following
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: week to week. Can't be all female or all black
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. So it's more about let me
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: hang on, let me just put this together. It's more
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: about who you feel like you are watching that, yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and you've got to be okay with that, but you
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: don't want to have those few you know. Do you
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: know what it is?
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: It's it's the it's the hypocrisy of you want to
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: see yourself. And it's like if there was a which
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: is fine, yeah yeah, but if there was a split team,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: they came in an it was two women and two men.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: There was a straight black man and a gay Asian man, right,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: people be like, oh, where's the straight white men, Like
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: they don't get enough representation everywhere else. Like it's like
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: you can't throw a rock without watching a TV show
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: that has a straight white man.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So that's what it is.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: It's about trying to get the rest of the world
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: to be able to see themselves on screen. But the
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: second the majority don't see themselves on screen.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: It's woke. Yeah yeah, yeah again, people don't understand all that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: But it's like I always since I was since I
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: was ten, right since I was ten, My favorite X
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Men character of all time is a middle aged black
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: woman who can control the weather, you know, But the
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: reason I have always been drawn to her is because
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: she has this fantastic speech about she.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Has to keep her emotions in check.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: She can't get too angry or her powers will you
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: go out of control.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: She's also claustrophobic.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: You know, those are the things that I identify with
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: with this middle aged black woman, you know what I mean.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: They don't need to look like me for me to
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: identify with them. So yeah, if you if you can't
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: identify with a character just based on what they look like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: you need to take a look inside yourself and think
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: that there's more about you than the color of your skin,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: your gender identity, and your sexual preference.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: We're talking about at the time because it wasn't really real.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: It's just reminding me of it. It was ages ago now,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: but just this was just that chat was just reminding
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: me of it. But if you're overseas, I mean, it's
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: shit that's going on certainly in the States, and it
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: has happened before, but like it was a real indicator
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: for me about and I'm so glad about it that
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: where my algorithms are from my social media because I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: just get pushed Lord of the Rings memes like where
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the people love or hate the DCU. Occasionally there's some
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: stuff about Monica Babarro and how beautiful she is or
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: something like just whatever, just the same shit Rugby league highlights.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden it was like, I
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: think it was like the end of August or something like,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: yeah it was. It was like the thirty first, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it was a bit the March for Australia or something,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I didn't even know that was on,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: like but it had been talked about for like two
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: months beforehand. Really I saw like an old afterwards, because
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I'm clear, all of a sudden it's popping up and
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: thin because I watched the news it was on the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the algorithm start pushing content in front of me. On
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: my social stuff, I look at some sorry said the word,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and because I look at one, then it shows me more.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, I see one of
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: goes on thirty first or whatever where March for Australia,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: and it was thing like if it wasn't dated in June,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: it would have been early July, so it'd been talked
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: about for a while and I'm like, I had no
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: idea that was going on. That really shows where my
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: algorithms are and I'm so happy that that didn't happen.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And then all my algorithms afterwards were just people just
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: absolutely shit canning in. That's the hypocrisy of the fact that,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: like I could have gone to that march and blended
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: in perfectly when three out of four of my grandparents
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: weren't born in this country.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So funny, It's
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: so funny. So that's what I watched this episode. I'm like, oh,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: they're another team, and I think that people would not
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: actually have a problem like these days, and I'm not
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: just trying to jell everyone says that, like they don't,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: but like if they brought it back, people would already
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: been watching this show going, yeah, you don't you this
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: up right? And then if, like in episode four, the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: main team that's already two women and two men run
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: into a team that's all female, It's like, what the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: shit is It's like, what do you mean? Why wouldn't
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: do it? Yeah, it's like what about episode two where
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: there was all male exactly, No one had a word.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Heroes in Lost City with that Alec Baldwin and Adam Baldwin. Sorry, yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: that was an all male team. No one, you know,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: no one says a thing. And then you get like
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and that was an all.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: White male team as well. And then you get like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: you know, in the you know this would be that's one.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's toovid, I'm combining my things, but like the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Big one years and years ago obviously now years and
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: years like three four years ago, but like you know,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: in the in the MCU, you get two or three
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: male characters team up and it's like, oh shit, yeah,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: what have we got here? Oh these guys are WHOA
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: The Marvels comes out and it's Captain Marvel and Monica
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Rambau and Miss Marvel and it's like, what's this wonte ship?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: They're all women? What the fuck? Why do we need
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to watch in all women's It's like, what do you
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: mean if you don't like the movie, fine, you don't
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: like the characters, but that wasn't what you said. You
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: said you just didn't want to watch a movie with
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: just women leading it. And they were also going up
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: against the female villain, so it's it's won't ship because
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: there's women. I'm like, I guess you have the mother, Yeah,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: yeah you do, because you're fucking born mate. At some
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: point or another, there was a woman involved in you
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: being fucking alive. They are kind of I don't know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: like half the fucking population. I guess. I guess. You're
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: also never allowed to watch an alien movie ever again.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Wow, because you know Ripley going up against the Queen Alien.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: That's shit. Not sorry, man, that's what. Can't watch that now, No, no.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: No, anyway, So we'll leave that in the past, hopefully eventually.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: With the with the fist pumps as well. That's episode
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety eight Stargate on how how appropriating.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, next week's episode The Queen, I'm the consult Oh
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: it's actually called the Queen, called the Queen. Okay, mm,
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: were finally back properly.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: That's your I don't care. I'll take it worth it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do anymore without meeting without you though,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: So that'll do. We'll catch you back for two ninety nine.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Get into Geek, get into the Gate, get into Gate Stargate,
• 39:16
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