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"SPLC and the FBI" (Friday, May 22, 2026, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 7: Tyler O'Neill, Southern Poverty Law Center at the Daily Signal
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Speaker 7: dot com. So I left you the question about defamation.
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Speaker 8: Yes, I think so.
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Speaker 9: I think the case can very much be made one
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Speaker 9: of So when it comes to five oh one C
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Speaker 9: three status, what they would argue, and again the lawyers
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Speaker 9: of the SPLC are very smart.
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Speaker 8: They would argue that the SPLC had a set.
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Speaker 9: Track record of condemning the things that they condemned Trump for,
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Speaker 9: and therefore, when they condemned Trump, they weren't condemning him
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Speaker 9: as a political figure. They were educating the public on
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Speaker 9: his statements. That would be their defense. And you know,
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Speaker 9: it's ultimately I think it's a judgment call because I remember,
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Speaker 9: I mean when they released their hate map in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 9: You know this was right before the election, well not
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Speaker 9: right before, but you know a few months before the election,
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Speaker 9: they released this hate map. Trump is all over the
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Speaker 9: darn thing, you know, and his word. I think I
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Speaker 9: did a search and it was like seventy two different mentions,
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Speaker 9: and so it is the sort of it is the
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Speaker 9: sort of thing where you're you raise a good point.
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Speaker 8: I think there are lower hanging fruit.
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Speaker 9: I think there are other other legal vulnerabilities that the
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Speaker 9: SPLC has that should be we should prioritize first.
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Speaker 8: I mean, defamation is.
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Speaker 9: Largely open and shut in my mind, and I know
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Speaker 9: that defamation cases are complicated, and many times the SPLC
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Speaker 9: knows how to how to wiggle their way around it.
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Speaker 9: But there was a really powerful ruling in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 9: I think it was when a judge dismissed or rejected
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Speaker 9: the SPLC's motion to dismiss the defamation case and led
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Speaker 9: to discovery. And unfortunately a later judge took up that
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Speaker 9: case and really gutted the discovery process. So now it's
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Speaker 9: on appeal so that hopefully the people who are defamed
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Speaker 9: by the SPLC can reopen it and engage in the
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Speaker 9: sort of discovery that they should have been able to
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Speaker 9: engage in from the beginning.
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Speaker 7: Again to that, because we're running out of time here
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Speaker 7: and I need to get our first things out there.
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Speaker 7: Tyler will come back to you in a moment from
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Speaker 7: the Southern Poverty Law Center or from the Daily Signal
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Speaker 7: the I R S for you know, dropping his case
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Speaker 7: against them if they set up this fund for folks
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Speaker 7: who have found themselves victims of government. Because it sounds
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Speaker 7: like in several cases, the Southern Poverty Law Center work
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Speaker 7: Even all the way to James Comy who were around
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Speaker 7: running the FBI when supposedly the sp l C was
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Speaker 7: running these quote confidential sources to help empower law enforcement.
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Speaker 7: You know, is there a connection to be made between
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Speaker 7: the two issues with the FBI, the FBI's creation of
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Speaker 7: you know, crimes rather than investigation of them, and SPLC
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Speaker 7: and what they were doing.
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Speaker 9: Yes, So the big there's there's a huge overlap in
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Speaker 9: the Biden administration between the DJ particularly the Civil Rights Division,
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Speaker 9: and the SPLC.
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Speaker 8: They had quarterly meetings with the SPLC.
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Speaker 9: They brought in an SPLC staffer to advise DJ prosecutors.
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Speaker 9: And then of course that there's that notorious FBI memo
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Speaker 9: where they cited the SPLC and targeting radical traditional Catholics
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Speaker 9: and so, and that is particularly egregious because the SPLC
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Speaker 9: is patently anti Christian.
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Speaker 8: Like they have.
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Speaker 9: They have this group on the hate map called the
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Speaker 9: Ruth Institute. And when they decided to put the Ruth
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Speaker 9: Institute on the hate mapp, one of the things that
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Speaker 9: they cited as evidence of the Ruth Institute's hate is
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Speaker 9: actually a direct quote from the Catechism of the Catholic Church,
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Speaker 9: and it was, you know, basic Christian sexual morality. And
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Speaker 9: it's the same thing that they routinely attack, like when
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Speaker 9: they put focus on the Family on there they they said,
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Speaker 9: you know that Christian sexual morality is inherently dangerous, and
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Speaker 9: like all of these these things, it's a it stacks
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Speaker 9: on itself. And so when you're when you're dealing with
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Speaker 9: and of course the problem is, I think you're going
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Speaker 9: to need to find concrete harms. But if you're a
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Speaker 9: conservative Christian nonprofit that's smeared by the SPLC, and then
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Speaker 9: you think that the DOJ took any action against you,
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Speaker 9: That's exactly the sort of thing that I think this uh,
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Speaker 9: this fund should be redressing.
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Speaker 8: There's a lot of talk about January sixth.
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Speaker 9: If you ask me, I mean, I think the pardons
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Speaker 9: probably redressed a lot of the overly zealous prosecutions that
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Speaker 9: we saw with January sixth.
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Speaker 8: Then January sixth was itself horrific events.
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Speaker 9: I know prosecutors went crazy with some of the charges
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Speaker 9: against some of the people, but I think this Weaponization
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Speaker 9: Committee should be focused on clearer cases, cases like Mark
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Speaker 9: Happ who was a Catholic father who was charged under
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Speaker 9: the Face Act for standing up for his son when
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Speaker 9: his son was being bullied at a pro life you know,
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Speaker 9: protest at an abortion center, and so what happened there.
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Speaker 9: Thank god, you know, the jury found Hawk, found Mark
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Speaker 9: Haark not guilty, but he was still drawn through the process,
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Speaker 9: and you know, the process can be the punishment sometimes.
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Speaker 9: He's exhibit a of someone who deserves compensation through this,
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Speaker 9: and I think we'll find examples of overlap where because
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Speaker 9: of the SPLC's influence, Conservatives and Christians were targeted by
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Speaker 9: the DOJ. And of course they'll they'll need to prove
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Speaker 9: that in order to get recompense from this fund.
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Speaker 8: But I think I think we're going to see some
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Speaker 8: of those stories.
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Speaker 7: Well, And you bring up the most important point. The
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Speaker 7: process becomes the punishment, and beyond that, it becomes almost
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Speaker 7: a warning flag to anyone else from speaking up. We
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Speaker 7: brought up frequently the case where the DOJ was going
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Speaker 7: after parents for speaking out at school board meetings and
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Speaker 7: making the ridiculous claim that threatening to run against a
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Speaker 7: school board member was tat amount to threatening them. I
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Speaker 7: thought that was an amazing stretch by Merrick Garland there,
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Speaker 7: But they they just said it like, you know, it's
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Speaker 7: commonplace law, just as Brandice himself had invented it or something,
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Speaker 7: you know. But that's that's what I'm seeing, is is
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Speaker 7: this idea that we can go after regular people. So
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Speaker 7: regular people, you listening to this radio show right now,
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Speaker 7: keep your mouth shut because you know you can't fight
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Speaker 7: the DOJ. And that's the part of this, that their
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Speaker 7: connection to the DOJ, their ability to bring down the
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Speaker 7: weight of the government at the Southern Poverty Loss Center
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Speaker 7: onto regular people, I think is the most important civil
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Speaker 7: rights issue in this Tyler O'Neil on with us from
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Speaker 7: the Daily Signal, Am I overstating it. I am a
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Speaker 7: radio show host, so that that is sort of stock
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Speaker 7: in trade.
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Speaker 9: No, No, I mean I think you're you're on the money,
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Speaker 9: because was one of the main aspects, you know, we
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Speaker 9: saw in the Biden administration and what you're what you're
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Speaker 9: saying that letter from Merrick Garland that was following off
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Speaker 9: of the letter from the National school Boards Association which
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Speaker 9: directly compared parents concerned parents at school board meetings to
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Speaker 9: domestic terrorists and suggested that the Patriot Act should be
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Speaker 9: used against these people.
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Speaker 9: Course, the first of the now three Louden County transgender
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Speaker 9: bathroom scandals that we've seen in recent years, where Scott
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Speaker 9: his composure, but I would understand why when you have
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Speaker 9: the principle, when you have the superintendent of Louden County
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Speaker 9: Public Schools saying that the transgender assaulter doesn't exist, and
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Speaker 9: you know, this is a father whose own daughter was
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Speaker 9: assaulted by someone who identified as transgender, and by the way,
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Speaker 9: that offender was also found to have sexually assaulted in
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Speaker 9: other ural previously at a school, and it's like this
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Speaker 9: trend of denying the basic you know, it's like transgenderism
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Speaker 9: does open people up to threats in private spaces.
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Speaker 25: It just does.
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Speaker 9: And that's not to say that everybody who identifies his
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Speaker 9: transgender is a threat. I don't believe that, but it
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Speaker 9: is if you don't have guardrails and you tell a
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Speaker 9: boy that he can just identify as a girl and
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean, and we've seen the results of that.
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Speaker 14: You know.
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Speaker 12: He Kyle Busch. Of course, most.
29:05
Speaker 23: Of everyone knows the story. Now unless you're just waking
29:07
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29:08
Speaker 5: Now, well presume they are, and you like what happened.
29:11
Speaker 23: To presume that Kyle Busch died yesterday at the age
29:14
Speaker 23: of forty one.
29:15
Speaker 12: He was on a simulator with the Richard Childers team.
29:18
Speaker 23: It's a testing simulator, and he became ill and unresponsive.
29:22
Speaker 12: Even they got him to the hospital.
29:23
Speaker 23: Now, there was a report that when he was running
29:26
Speaker 23: the road course and he finished eighth at Watkins Glenn,
29:29
Speaker 23: there was a report that he had he radioed the
29:32
Speaker 23: cruises I need to talk to a doctor and they
29:36
Speaker 23: said he had a bad sinus cold and he couldn't
29:38
Speaker 23: breathe and he was having you know, some issues. Well,
29:40
Speaker 23: they haven't released the exact cause of death, but he
29:45
Speaker 23: died yesterday at the age of forty one. A father
29:49
Speaker 23: of two eleven year old boy a four year old girl.
29:52
Speaker 23: You know, his accomplishments were a lot. But if I
29:55
Speaker 23: of all the things I've read this money, I've been
29:56
Speaker 23: to about I don't know a dozen websites or so
29:58
Speaker 23: and looking up stuff, here here words to describe Bush,
30:02
Speaker 23: sharp wit, competitive spirit, connection with the fans, polarizing, no
30:07
Speaker 23: middle ground with him, highly.
30:08
Speaker 12: Entertaining, larger than life character.
30:12
Speaker 23: A lot of responses, of course from NASCAR, Kyle Petty
30:15
Speaker 23: simply used the word great.
30:17
Speaker 31: We're gonna hear a lot about Kyle Busch, and we're
30:19
Speaker 31: gonna hear the word great and greatness thrown around a lot.
30:23
Speaker 31: But it's only fitting for Kyle Busch. He was a
30:27
Speaker 31: great race car driver, one of the most phenomenal talents
30:29
Speaker 31: to come along. Not many people that I ever see
30:31
Speaker 31: in my career have the natural talent that Kyle Busch had.
30:35
Speaker 23: And the thing about the thing about Kyle Busch is
30:37
Speaker 23: that he had a lot of you know, there were.
30:39
Speaker 12: A lot of rivalries.
30:40
Speaker 23: You know, when you when you're great and people want
30:43
Speaker 23: to beat you, then you end up with a lot
30:45
Speaker 23: of rivalries. Joie the Gano said the same thing, but
30:48
Speaker 23: he said, when it comes to racing in the fraternity.
30:52
Speaker 12: There was a lot of family there.
30:53
Speaker 30: My heart goes out to his family. You know, our
30:55
Speaker 30: community is pretty tight, right, Like I said, we compete
30:58
Speaker 30: against each other and those type of things, but you know,
31:00
Speaker 30: our kids play together on the weekends, right like you
31:04
Speaker 30: know their family, you know their personal side, and it's
31:07
Speaker 30: it's I guess it's heartbreaking thinking about what they're going
31:10
Speaker 30: through right now.
31:11
Speaker 23: You know, when you look at the numbers, Joe too
31:13
Speaker 23: and everything. I mean, it's easy to talk about the
31:16
Speaker 23: numbers now, sixty three Cup victories, ninth all time, he
31:19
Speaker 23: had won since twenty three, one hundred and two Infinity wins,
31:22
Speaker 23: sixty nine truck trophies. As a matter of fact, he
31:24
Speaker 23: just picked up at Dover last weekend. He picked up
31:27
Speaker 23: a truck victory. I'm going to play part of that
31:29
Speaker 23: in just a second. So, but he was fired early
31:32
Speaker 23: in his career by Hendrick Motor Sports. He was a
31:35
Speaker 23: teammate of Hall of Fame drivers Jimmy Johnson and Jeff Gordon.
31:37
Speaker 23: They were making room for Dale Earnhardt Junior at that time.
31:42
Speaker 23: Interesting story that he was said to be ready to
31:44
Speaker 23: race at NASCAR's top level at sixteen. Then they invoked
31:47
Speaker 23: the Kurt Bush rule. A cigarette settlement banned his debut
31:52
Speaker 23: and remember that until he was eighteen, And Kurt Busch
31:55
Speaker 23: said at the time, you know, if you think I'm good,
31:57
Speaker 23: what do you see my brother Marty Smith covers NASCAR.
32:00
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32:04
Speaker 23: with the four letter.
32:05
Speaker 32: To see the humility with which he has raced in
32:08
Speaker 32: the last couple of years.
32:10
Speaker 5: He had wanted so badly to win this season.
32:13
Speaker 8: I I just can't.
32:15
Speaker 4: I can't.
32:16
Speaker 11: I can't wrap my hands around this.
32:18
Speaker 12: Yeah, and so when it comes down and plus he,
32:20
Speaker 12: you know, like.
32:21
Speaker 23: A lot of the really really good guys, he had
32:24
Speaker 23: a foundation.
32:25
Speaker 12: He loved professional wrestling.
32:27
Speaker 23: He appeared on WWE programming multiple times, even hosted w
32:31
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32:35
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32:40
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32:42
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32:46
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32:49
Speaker 23: a podcast said, well, Kurt Bush is just probably in
32:52
Speaker 23: the sunset of his career.
32:54
Speaker 12: He is probably never going to win again. But here's
32:57
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32:58
Speaker 23: So after the after the truck win at Dover, he
33:03
Speaker 23: met with the press laughing.
33:04
Speaker 12: There was a lot of joking going on, but this
33:07
Speaker 12: is what he This is just a week ago.
33:10
Speaker 32: Take whatever you can get, man. You never know when
33:11
Speaker 32: the last one is going to be, so cherish them all.
33:13
Speaker 5: Trust me.
33:14
Speaker 32: I don't have a number in mine. Obviously, the eccinity
33:16
Speaker 32: number is pretty awesome, right, one hundred and two. So
33:19
Speaker 32: you know, once upon a time, I think my number
33:21
Speaker 32: in the Cup Series was wanting to eclipse Dale somewhere
33:26
Speaker 32: in there. It would have been kind of what my
33:28
Speaker 32: goal was for the Cup Series. But take whatever you
33:31
Speaker 32: can get.
33:31
Speaker 12: Man, Yeah, because you never know, right I mean?
33:33
Speaker 23: And I go back to you know, the team Bust
33:36
Speaker 23: with Pete Gillen and Pete Gillen always said it best
33:38
Speaker 23: and Joe's heard me say it a thousand times, and
33:40
Speaker 23: especially them say, hey, every day is a gift.
33:42
Speaker 12: And when your feet, you know, people say hey Mac,
33:44
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33:45
Speaker 23: You know, people don't really want to hear your you know,
33:47
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33:49
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33:50
Speaker 12: So I just tell him, look, my feet hit the
33:52
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33:54
Speaker 23: As a matter of fact, for somebody who's got to
33:56
Speaker 23: go get a blood tested today. But Kyle Busch was
34:00
Speaker 23: nicknamed Rowdy due to he had a love for the
34:03
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34:06
Speaker 23: team owner.
34:06
Speaker 12: Two but anyway, he competed.
34:09
Speaker 23: Full time in the NASCAR Cup Series driving the number
34:12
Speaker 23: eight Chevrolet Camaro for Richard Childers Racing. And he was
34:15
Speaker 23: a part time truck driver, as we said, not truck driver,
34:18
Speaker 23: but craftsman truck racer. So born in Las Vegas, he
34:24
Speaker 23: started work on race cars, like a lot of the
34:26
Speaker 23: you know, the legends, started working on race cars very early,
34:29
Speaker 23: got into the whole go kart thing. But he was
34:31
Speaker 23: living in Charlotte, North Carolina, and uh, just something really
34:35
Speaker 23: strange about the illness. I'm sure they the family will
34:38
Speaker 23: release something. But when you think about this year in NASCAR,
34:43
Speaker 23: the Biffle crash, you know, and now the you know,
34:46
Speaker 23: the Kirk.
34:46
Speaker 12: Bush death, and you just hope that NASCAR gets quiet.
34:50
Speaker 23: Now he was he had talked about running the Coke
34:53
Speaker 23: six hundred, but then he pulled out because you.
34:56
Speaker 12: Know, he just didn't feel good. So he you know,
34:58
Speaker 12: he wasn't gonna run and r c R.
35:01
Speaker 23: Childress Racing had announced that Austin Hill would be the
35:04
Speaker 23: replacement in the number eight Chevrolet Camaro Zeo one.
35:07
Speaker 7: So anyway, uh well, you know, and here's the here's
35:10
Speaker 7: the thing. You know, you talk about all these guys.
35:12
Speaker 7: You mentioned Denny Hamlin and his partnership with Michael Jordan
35:15
Speaker 7: owning teams, and but I put him on a list.
35:23
Speaker 7: Kyle Busch and John Riggins are two of the wildest
35:27
Speaker 7: characters that Joe Gibbs turned into, you know, legends very
35:31
Speaker 7: well said yeah, because you know, Kyle Busch, you know,
35:35
Speaker 7: was always seemed anthem at Hendrick Motorsports. He came up
35:40
Speaker 7: with them, but he just never seemed to fit, you know,
35:42
Speaker 7: the Jeff Gordon, Jimmy Johnson. You know, it's a kind
35:45
Speaker 7: of model of you know, this is the propriety.
35:49
Speaker 12: All American, good looking guy who's not gonna say much.
35:52
Speaker 7: He'd spinned to win, you know, just he was really
35:56
Speaker 7: he should have been driving for Childress in the three
35:58
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36:03
Speaker 7: the point is to win, dude, I don't know whatever
36:05
Speaker 7: everyone else.
36:06
Speaker 5: Is doing here, but he gets he gets with coach Gibbs.
36:11
Speaker 7: And and I compare him to Riggins, mainly because you know,
36:14
Speaker 7: everyone knows John Riggins, the legendary redskin running pack. He was,
36:20
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36:24
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36:27
Speaker 7: that I think lesser leadership doesn't, you know, bring to
36:32
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36:36
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36:37
Speaker 12: Game day is game day.
36:38
Speaker 23: You're right, you make you make such a great point,
36:40
Speaker 23: as you always do, but game day is game day.
36:43
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36:45
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36:49
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36:51
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36:53
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36:55
Speaker 12: That's uh.
36:56
Speaker 23: And and Bush was one of the guys. He was
36:57
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36:59
Speaker 23: were a teammate or not. You know, he was gonna
37:02
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37:04
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37:05
Speaker 12: But he radioed you know.
37:05
Speaker 23: Something weird And as I said in the Watkins Gland,
37:08
Speaker 23: which is up and down, whatever and he was challenging
37:11
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37:13
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37:15
Speaker 12: Get me a doctor. I'm going to need the doctor.
37:18
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37:20
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37:22
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37:25
Speaker 23: And uh, you know who knows, but much too much,
37:29
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37:31
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37:33
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37:38
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37:41
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37:44
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Speaker 7: The host of the Good for America podcast and former
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Speaker 7: Good morning, Bob. Happy Memorial Day weekend. How are you doing, sir?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 7: Sorry, somebody plugged Bob back in there? Bob, how happy
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Speaker 1: Good more in Joe. Great to be with you again.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry about that. I unplugged the thing. I wasn't
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Speaker 7: in tech support. Okay, so I'm going to jump into
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Speaker 7: the deep end of the pool here. Conservative congressman loses
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Speaker 7: primary to candidate endorsed by President Trump. Aside from the
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Speaker 7: fact that Tommy Massey's loss in Kentucky's fourth district didn't
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Speaker 7: go to a recount. The story is almost identical to
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Speaker 7: the story of how you became former Chair of the
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Speaker 7: House Freedom Concuss a couple of years ago. So what
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Speaker 7: are your thoughts as you watched what happened in Kentucky's
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Speaker 7: fourth Bob, I know you were friends with Thomas Massey.
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Speaker 7: I don't know if you've spoken to him this week
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Speaker 7: or not. You know, a lot of column space has
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Speaker 7: been dedicated to his loss in the primary.
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Speaker 4: What did you.
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Speaker 7: See were their eerie familiarity feelings that came in it?
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Speaker 7: And what are your thoughts going forward regarding Republicans, regarding
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Speaker 34: Well, there's a lot there, as you know, and it
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Speaker 34: is eerily similar to two years ago. Unfortunately, I've expressed
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Speaker 34: privately to some folks over the past couple of months
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Speaker 34: that it felt too similar and I was very concerned
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Speaker 34: and fearful that Massey would end up losing. We did
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Speaker 34: a fundraiser for him and came on my podcast in
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Speaker 34: the studio a couple of months ago, and he was
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Speaker 34: up fifteen twenty points, and privately I said, hey, we
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Speaker 34: were up fifteen to twenty points a couple of months
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Speaker 34: out as well, but the gap was closing for him.
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Speaker 34: It's really challenged. It's funny we often say or talk
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Speaker 34: about how now ninety nine percent I would submit of
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Speaker 34: the Republicans in DC, at least on the House side,
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Speaker 34: have given their voting card essentially to the president. You've
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Speaker 34: got the best conservatives, the most principled, most courageous conservatives
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Speaker 34: during the Biden administration, now voting for things they would
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Speaker 34: never vote for under a Democrat president, whether it's suspending
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Speaker 34: the Biden's COVID budget debt limit and increase of five
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Speaker 34: trillion dollars taking US to forty trillion in debt, keeping
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Speaker 34: two trillion dollar deficits, supporting FIST reauthorization, being quilent, quiet
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Speaker 34: rather and silent with their implicit consent on things like
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Speaker 34: ballrooms and slush funds.
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Speaker 3: And you know, war's.
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Speaker 34: Geared towards regime change with no clear definition of what
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Speaker 34: the end game is and so forth. But you also
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Speaker 34: have Joe some sixty percent of Republican voters who give
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Speaker 34: their voting card to the president. Sixty percent roughly of
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Speaker 34: Republican voters I think you can submit are essentially saying
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Speaker 34: we'll vote for someone like John McGuire in the fifties
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Speaker 34: or two years ago, or Ed Gallerin in Kentucky four
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Speaker 34: just a couple of days ago. Will vote for someone
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Speaker 34: who we know nothing about, who refuses to debate, to
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Speaker 34: take tough questions, do tough interviews like one on a
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Speaker 34: show like this, to have town halls, and to express
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Speaker 34: specific positions. And they're voting for someone on the simple
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Speaker 34: basis of a person's willingness to pledge un limited loyalty,
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Speaker 34: fealty to a personality. And so you're dumbing down Congress.
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Speaker 34: You're dumbing down the Republican members of Congress to the
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Speaker 34: most basic, lowest level of who is willing to, at
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Speaker 34: least pretend for the purpose of winning a nomination and
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Speaker 34: winning an election complete loyalty, allegiance, submission to a personality.
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Speaker 34: That's the only criteria for which someone like ed Gaal
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Speaker 34: Ryan wins. He had a reported two dozen people at
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Speaker 34: his victory party. He had a reported two dozen people
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Speaker 34: show up for a quote rally with Secretary Defense Pete
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Speaker 34: Hegseth and setting aside the Hatch Act and the appropriate
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Speaker 34: nature of the Defense secretary coming to campaign for someone.
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Speaker 5: Like that.
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Speaker 34: When was the last time that's ever happened, by the way,
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Speaker 34: where a cabinet secretary, let alone the Defense secretary, shows
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Speaker 34: up to do that. So it was eerily similar, and
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Speaker 34: I'm disappointed that Thomas Massey loss, unfortunately not terribly surprised.
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Speaker 34: I will and I'll conclude these remarks with a little
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Speaker 34: bit of same shameless promotion in the sense that when
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Speaker 34: you compare the two, it really illustrates how well we
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Speaker 34: did two years ago. Because we had only represented the
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Speaker 34: district for a term and a half, meaning a third
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Speaker 34: of the district was new to me. I'd represent only
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Speaker 34: one term in two thirds district, I'd represent a two terms.
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Speaker 34: Thomas Massey was a seven term incumbent. We lost by
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Speaker 34: half a point, where Massey lost by ten points. And
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Speaker 34: so in addition, we had open primaries where Democh thousands
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Speaker 34: of Democrats could come in and vote for my opponent.
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Speaker 34: Where Kentucky they closed the primary fearful that independence and
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Speaker 34: Democrats might come in and vote for Thomas Manne to
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Speaker 34: stick it to Trump, So they closed the primaries in Kentucky,
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Speaker 34: so it was only Republicans, which would have helped us.
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Speaker 34: We would have won if that was a case in Virginia.
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Speaker 34: So while it was disappointed to lose by three hundred
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Speaker 34: and seventy votes, I'm reminded how well we actually did.
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Speaker 7: Bob Good on with Us the host for Good Good
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Speaker 7: for America podcast, which was his campaign slogan as well, Bob.
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Speaker 7: So I'm going to ask a couple of follow ups
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Speaker 7: on that, but most importantly is, you know some of
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Speaker 7: the new ones we've talked about the Iran incursion. I've
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Speaker 7: gone all the way back to Jefferson saying that this
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Speaker 7: issue with Islamists may need to be ended with a war.
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Speaker 7: So even Jefferson sort of felt like at some point
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Speaker 7: we're going to probably need to militarily confront this. The
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Speaker 7: question over whither his authority to go do this was
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Speaker 7: covered under the two thousand and two vote that Barack
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Speaker 7: Obama support in Hillary Clinton did to engage a war
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Speaker 7: on terror, and those sorts of conversations. There are a
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Speaker 7: lot lot of things that can be looked at from
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Speaker 7: both sides in this, regarding actions Iran has taken against
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Speaker 7: American soldiers in American military and then supporting Hezbolah and
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Speaker 7: Hamas in their attacks on both America and in Israel
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Speaker 7: and our allies. Are those important things to point to.
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Speaker 7: I mean, I understand being anti wards. Some of my
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Speaker 7: dear friends Mesa's society ardently anti war. I always feel
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Speaker 7: like that's limiting saying I'm anti violence until somebody tries
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Speaker 7: to attack me, then I'm pro violence.
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Speaker 34: I don't think I've ever been at one who could
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Speaker 34: be button holed or pigeonholed into being well.
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Speaker 7: I'm not saying you, but I think Thomas Massey has
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Speaker 7: been kind of.
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Speaker 34: Putting I'm not responding to that directly that that obstructed
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Speaker 34: I don't mean that, but you know that I'm definitively
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Speaker 34: dub or a hawk when it comes to defense issues
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Speaker 34: or foreign policy and so forth. And I've tried to
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Speaker 34: always give the president a benefit of doubt as a
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Speaker 34: member of Congress and not being knee jerk and quick
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Speaker 34: to criticize. These are complex issues, their nuanced, it's difficult
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Speaker 34: to predict how they'll play out. So that said, I
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Speaker 34: supported enthusiastically. If you know, it's sort of regrettable that
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Speaker 34: you have to do these things. But what the president
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Speaker 34: did last summer, the Twelve Day War, which he said, obliterated,
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Speaker 34: completely eliminated the nuclear threat from Iran. They couldn't fight back.
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Speaker 34: They were exposed, embarrassed, emasculated. They were overwhelmed by Israel
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Speaker 34: and the United States, and we could do whatever we
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Speaker 34: The Chinese weapons systems failed. We really sent a message.
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Speaker 7: Actually hang out, hang on to that before you get
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Speaker 7: to that. I sensed a break point here. We've got
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