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Personal Evolution with ScHoolboy Q · Deeply Well with Devi Brown

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  Speaker 1: Mm from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl in
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  Speaker 1: two fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers
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  Speaker 1: to always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you
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  Speaker 1: were fired. You will pass through centuries on the hands
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  Speaker 1: of your daughters. They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the
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  Speaker 1: backs of diamond eyed school children who growing into hymnals
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  Speaker 1: recited by amethyst holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments
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  Speaker 1: out of the windows of restored alchimedo chariots. To keep
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  Speaker 1: the warmth of their blood, be wise, be smart, being black,
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  Speaker 1: Opal Brown courts, bloodstone and prayer. Be every form of
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  Speaker 1: Jim se King told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife,
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  Speaker 1: wife told her daughter, and daughter told the ass. This
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  Speaker 1: is at the ancestors told me that you would come
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  Speaker 1: to give wisdom thousands. They said you would come Dropping rope. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of the Dropping Jim's podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Debbie Brown. Today I have a really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really special guest on the show, and I'm not trying
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  Speaker 1: to like overhype it or be dramatic. Anybody that has
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  Speaker 1: been on the show thus far, as you know, is
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  Speaker 1: a friend and someone that I deeply, deeply respect. But
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  Speaker 1: this person on the show today is honestly one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite human beings of all time. No, I am
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  Speaker 1: fascinated by him as a person. Um. I'm highly entertained
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  Speaker 1: by him in his musical offerings and in his I
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  Speaker 1: G stories. Um. And this person is just someone I've
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  Speaker 1: known for a very very long time. Award winning, Grammy nominated,
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  Speaker 1: many albums, different gifts to the culture. The One and
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  Speaker 1: Only Schoolboy que is on the show. What What Up?
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  Speaker 1: What Up? I've known you for a long time, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a few years, man, Like I really like we probably
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  Speaker 1: met like right at the start of your career with
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  Speaker 1: t D. Yeah that was like two thousand nine or
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  Speaker 1: something like that, Yeah, two thousand seven. But I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really like, you know, rap until like two thousand nine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you were chilling, you were around. I definitely met
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  Speaker 1: you before you dropped music, like not not music music,
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  Speaker 1: because you had a first mixtape before you started with TD,
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  Speaker 1: but before for sure, before like setbacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, before Setbacks. Yeah, it was it was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't an old something, it was something for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, like the reason I feel I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel happy about you, like when I see
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  Speaker 1: you doing things, because you know, I feel like I've
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  Speaker 1: seen you at a lot of different evolutions stages of yourself,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Thank you. Um. And there was a time, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: there was a time where like I had I forget
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  Speaker 1: you had came on my show somewhere. This is years ago,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is, um the first time I was
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  Speaker 1: in Houston, at the first radio station I was at,
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  Speaker 1: and I honestly was like a little scared real yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean you had always up until that point
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  Speaker 1: been pretty quiet, but it just seemed like something was dark.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I probably was. I was just on so
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  Speaker 1: many drugs though, yeah, like you know, um yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was like doing pills and sipping lean before it was
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  Speaker 1: like a like a cool thing, you know, Like my
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  Speaker 1: whole first album was called Oxymoron, you know what I mean, Like, um,
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  Speaker 1: before all this ship was like popular. Yeah, so it
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  Speaker 1: was like, um, I was just so out of it,
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  Speaker 1: like everywhere I went, I was. But I was always
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  Speaker 1: me though, with my personality and who I am. But
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  Speaker 1: it would be always something like I can look at
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  Speaker 1: old interviews now and be like what or just look
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  Speaker 1: at me just my appearance. Excuse me, my body tight,
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  Speaker 1: my face like looking puffy, and like skin looks dull.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's like a lot of ship like like
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I couldn't, but like I look completely different then,
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  Speaker 1: uh like two years ago, Like even my skin. Everything's
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  Speaker 1: just like just getting rid of that stuff just clears
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  Speaker 1: you up and just you know, doing other things instead
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  Speaker 1: of just going into the studio. Because once your life
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  Speaker 1: become like a just hard work and you you never
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  Speaker 1: really get to enjoy who you are as a person.
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  Speaker 1: It can take you to a dark place. Because I
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  Speaker 1: was just waking up and just sit around and just
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  Speaker 1: get high until I go to the studio every night,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm just looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like ship, I'm just working hard. I work hard
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  Speaker 1: as a mother. I'm thinking, yeah, you work hard at something,
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  Speaker 1: but you're also killing yourself, you know. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: It's like I sacrificed to get here. Yeah I worked hard,
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  Speaker 1: and I still work hard every day now, but I
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  Speaker 1: was killing myself in the process. So it was like
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  Speaker 1: almost like I was never getting this high of the
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  Speaker 1: success that I was always receiving. Like I never even
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  Speaker 1: really understood being famous, Like it got to a point
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  Speaker 1: where I got famous, like when I first came out,
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  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't go nowhere and stuff like because it
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  Speaker 1: was like I didn't get it. I was just too
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  Speaker 1: high and I just didn't understand it. Yeah, you get
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't understand it, Like bro, like
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  Speaker 1: leave me alone. Like I used to be like irritated
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  Speaker 1: all the time, like don't don't touch me, you don't
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  Speaker 1: talk to me. Don't you get what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 1: was one of those people, like I asked, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: take pictures like oh no, no, I always had my
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  Speaker 1: head down and ship because I was just always high
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  Speaker 1: and groggy. And it was probably like a mixture of things.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's the drugs, but then it's also this
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  Speaker 1: you know, as as a young man coming from South Central,
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  Speaker 1: coming from the background that you came from, now being
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  Speaker 1: like on this world stage and receiving this constant attention people,
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  Speaker 1: people communicating with you in a way that you weren't
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  Speaker 1: used to from where you're from, right, Like people wanting
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  Speaker 1: to touch you, and people always in your face, smiling
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  Speaker 1: and posturing, and it was the kind of like you know,
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  Speaker 1: the body language, the connection that you just don't have
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  Speaker 1: growing up where you grew up. Yeah, and it's still
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  Speaker 1: weird now, like just body language from people and like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: just how how people can just approach you and just
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  Speaker 1: be so rude you know, like, um, it could really
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  Speaker 1: piss you off. You know, you gotta catch yourself some time,
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  Speaker 1: like because some pion times people really do some things
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  Speaker 1: that back in the day you would have fucked him
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  Speaker 1: up big time for it. But it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't be out here just kicking people. Ask you
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  Speaker 1: gotta understand, like you know, you know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta understand, and some people are just that's when
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  Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be realized a lot of things, Like
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  Speaker 1: some people are just going to be there and there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing you can really do about that. It's like everybody
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  Speaker 1: not made to be um the same mindset as you.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's not here to be on alert about a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ship you know what's going on. Some people are
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  Speaker 1: just fucking idiots, and we need the idiots to let
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  Speaker 1: me know how great we are. We really need a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of idiots, dude, Like, um, we could try to
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  Speaker 1: change the world, we could help people because I've been
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  Speaker 1: an idiot before. I'm pretty sure you've been an idiot before,
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  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be here if he wasn't an idiot
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  Speaker 1: at some point, Like you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 1: was telling I was telling my girlfriend today we were
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  Speaker 1: on texting, like I've had to I've had to stop
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  Speaker 1: watching and reading a lot of things because it's not
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  Speaker 1: good for my mental health, like to be reminded in
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  Speaker 1: every second of just how painful and difficult this world is. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Like I can't focus on raising my baby with joy
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  Speaker 1: if I'm constantly looking at videos of people dying or
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  Speaker 1: people hurting um or or watching trolls say ship that
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  Speaker 1: has absolutely no rationale to it. Um. But I was
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  Speaker 1: telling my girlfriend, it's like, you know, to those people
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  Speaker 1: like I just have to send the energy of compassion
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  Speaker 1: because you are who you are just based on your
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  Speaker 1: life experiences up to this point, and everybody grows at
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  Speaker 1: different rates. And to be quite honest, in this lifetime,
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  Speaker 1: not everybody is meant to be a good person. Not
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  Speaker 1: everybody is meant to be great or to have deeper understanding,
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  Speaker 1: Like some people are just the ignorant worker bees, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you just you're just they're existing but not really living. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But I just I'm grateful that as as hard as
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  Speaker 1: life is right now, Like I'm grateful that I'm alive
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  Speaker 1: in this time because in this exact moment is better
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  Speaker 1: than it's ever been in American history at least. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're having conversations we've never had, we have access to
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  Speaker 1: healing that we've never had, And I just feel grateful.
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  Speaker 1: I'm awake, I'm awaking aware man. Yeah, man, this ship
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  Speaker 1: is really That's what I'm still hate about, Like this
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  Speaker 1: time is like the race part about it, like the
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  Speaker 1: divider in it, like um with everybody like um, you
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  Speaker 1: know Mexicans and blacks, whites, blacks, Asians and Asians Like
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  Speaker 1: my I got friends that that's Japanese that hate the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the Asian people. Like he doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to hang around it, Like you give what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, um, it seems like that is more. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like that is is still the same. It's just um,
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  Speaker 1: we have to we're forced to. Uh, A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are forced to deal with it. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: racism is still the same though, Oh absolutely, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's still the same, and but what the reach that
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  Speaker 1: it has is different. Like the hate people carrying, the
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  Speaker 1: ignorance people carry is the same and in some cases
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  Speaker 1: maybe even worse. UM, but the reach it's able to have,
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  Speaker 1: in the effect it's able to have on our lives
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  Speaker 1: has dramatically changed. Like for the most part, you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone can feel however they feel, but they're not allowed
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  Speaker 1: to touch me, you know, like they're not allowed to
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  Speaker 1: oppress me in many ways. Right, there's still like some
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  Speaker 1: of the greater like governmental and societal systematic racism that happens.
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  Speaker 1: But and it also depends where you are. Like we're
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  Speaker 1: in California, you know, we're in southern California, so we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of privilege in being in you know,
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  Speaker 1: a very liberal place. It's crazy. I want to I
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  Speaker 1: want to get back to UM you kind of sharing
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  Speaker 1: your journey getting off drugs, Like what was the moment
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  Speaker 1: for you? Because you know, when I say earlier that
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  Speaker 1: it felt like there was a darkness what it What
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  Speaker 1: I really mean by that is like there was a
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  Speaker 1: time where I would be around you and it felt
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  Speaker 1: almost like your soul was on mute, if that makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: Like you were still like you were still like you know,
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  Speaker 1: you were still nice that you'd be like, hey, what's up,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, but it seemed like like yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, like you were probably just completely out of
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  Speaker 1: your own head and and not feeling good from the
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  Speaker 1: inside out. But but I felt it and then like
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  Speaker 1: maybe and this is probably like eight to ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: but then I remember like five years ago I saw
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  Speaker 1: you at the b ET Awards and you walked in
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  Speaker 1: maybe four years ago you walked in and you were
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  Speaker 1: so radiant, like yeah, like legitimately, like you had this
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  Speaker 1: like light pouring out of you. You were smiling, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never seen this full smile in public,
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  Speaker 1: Like you were smiling big. And I saw you and
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  Speaker 1: you were and we were just both so happy to
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  Speaker 1: see each other, and everything that you were saying just
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  Speaker 1: radiated light. Like you were so grateful even for the
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  Speaker 1: small things, like you were like I just got my
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  Speaker 1: els back, man, Like life feels so good. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: you know, it seemed like a lot of the toxins
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  Speaker 1: were out of your system because you were very present.
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  Speaker 1: You were clear, your eyes had this clearness about them, um,
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  Speaker 1: and you were just experiencing joy and being present you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I think you had just going to Hawaii and
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  Speaker 1: I had like seen videos of you and you were
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  Speaker 1: like living your best life, Like there was so much
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  Speaker 1: you and your friends were jumping in the ocean and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, who is this guy? Um? And then
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  Speaker 1: you just seem to continue to like elevate and grow.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, so when I say like you're one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite humans in existence, a lot of it is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, number one, you're my friends, So I think
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  Speaker 1: you're dope. Um. I have a lot of respect for
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  Speaker 1: what you do, but I'm really drawn to resilience in people,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm really drawn to transformation, and for me, you
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  Speaker 1: represent that and what you do give so much clarity
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  Speaker 1: and hope, even if that's not your intention to so
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  Speaker 1: many other people that look like you and have similar stories.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like black men are not allowed to have
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  Speaker 1: joy out loud. You know that too. You've always got
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  Speaker 1: to hide so many things, Bro, you gotta hide who
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  Speaker 1: you are, like even if you know the fact that
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  Speaker 1: me being the Crib, I'm not supposed to be like
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  Speaker 1: the type of person I am, like, uh, always laughing
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  Speaker 1: and ship, always doing some funny ship, Like that's just
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  Speaker 1: who I am bro, like you know, and like that's
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  Speaker 1: part of game bang and that's all we do. Like
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  Speaker 1: in the hood, right back in the day, is all
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  Speaker 1: we used to do is just like crack jokes on
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  Speaker 1: each other. That's all we did. Like to this day,
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  Speaker 1: me and my homeboys, we're fucking grown us, third of
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  Speaker 1: year old man, and we just still talk about each other,
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  Speaker 1: like you give what I'm saying, Like all day, Like
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  Speaker 1: we greet each other by each other's mama. Like my
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  Speaker 1: homeboy Floyd, I call him Darlene as soon as I say,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, doesn't know, Like that's just
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  Speaker 1: what we do, like you know, so like we just clowns,
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  Speaker 1: like but when we go into public, we try to
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  Speaker 1: hide it and we throw this whole tough thing on it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you know what I mean, It's like we
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  Speaker 1: take away all the personality that we have. Like game
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  Speaker 1: bangers could be some of the most game bangers are
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  Speaker 1: some of the most talented people, creative people ever. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: Like they snap in and out of different things and
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  Speaker 1: in out out of situations. They have no fear, you
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  Speaker 1: give what I'm saying. They some of the most different
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  Speaker 1: type of creatures ever. That's why I think I was
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  Speaker 1: blessed to game bang for a little for a time
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  Speaker 1: in my of my life because it got me to
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  Speaker 1: the point where I am now. I can blend in
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  Speaker 1: with all all sides. Like game banging in sports made
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  Speaker 1: me who I am today because I had to had
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  Speaker 1: to be disciplined because I wanted to play football and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to play baseball. But I had the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the undisciplined of the game bang inside of me.
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  Speaker 1: You give what I'm saying, and I think it clashed
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  Speaker 1: together with my music and who I am, and it
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  Speaker 1: made me who I am today. You know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I can hang with white people. I can
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  Speaker 1: hang with like you know, like Mexicans and be cool,
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  Speaker 1: or Asians and be cool any type of race or
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  Speaker 1: whatever like a cornball. But you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: give you that ability, because I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people think of gang banging and parameters of it's not
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  Speaker 1: something that would make you open to other kinds of people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that the sports made me open to kind of different
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  Speaker 1: kinds of people. The game banging gave me that that
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  Speaker 1: almost that cutthroat mentality. You give what I'm saying, Like killer,
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  Speaker 1: be killed type of mentality, but the sports brought the
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  Speaker 1: other side of it that it is actually not killed
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  Speaker 1: to be killed. You know you do and you actually
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  Speaker 1: do need somebody to help you win this game. You
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  Speaker 1: give what I'm saying, quarterback, Yeah exactly. It's like I
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  Speaker 1: know when to snip you off and I know when
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  Speaker 1: to keep you around almost but like, um, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty much like gangbanging in sports. It just collided like
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  Speaker 1: the balance of like personal boundaries but then also openness exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well you Like, I think a lot of people, especially
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  Speaker 1: if you're not from l A or you're not a
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  Speaker 1: person of color, Like people do not understand like gangbanging,
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  Speaker 1: like they right right, I think, especially they don't understand
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  Speaker 1: the depths of it, like like the blind loyalty in it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or the I guess, like I would say,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the commitment to it. But more so like like
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  Speaker 1: when you hear people speak about being a gang, it's
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  Speaker 1: like this is my family. And for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people who don't have any they're not adjacent to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like what does that mean? Family? People are hurting
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  Speaker 1: each other and you hurt people that look like you are,
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  Speaker 1: Like what is the what's the depth of it, what's
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  Speaker 1: the connection? I don't know, it's it's just something. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a commitment that once you commit to it's like
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  Speaker 1: being married. It's like once you commit to it, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm not a game banger, but I'm still committed
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  Speaker 1: to being from Hoover, Like I'm still a crip. Like
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  Speaker 1: I don't game bang, but I'm always a crip. Like
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  Speaker 1: somebody asked me where I'm from, I'm still saying from
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  Speaker 1: over crip. It's never where I say I don't bang.
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  Speaker 1: It's never never that you give what I'm saying. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it what it is, I just
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  Speaker 1: did it. And um, the loyalty like you said the loyalty,
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  Speaker 1: and the loyalty isself fake, like, um, homies kill homies
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  Speaker 1: like more than the enemy would kill homie too, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like it's sad like um, jealousy.
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  Speaker 1: But but you just that's the where you come from though,
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  Speaker 1: you know, It's like I come from over here, and
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  Speaker 1: that's all you here at school at elementary, that's all
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  Speaker 1: your cousins is saying, that's all this is. And then
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  Speaker 1: you start losing friends your friend just died. He thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: like somebody just killed him or something. You like, you
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: know it was them over there. You give what I'm saying.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, like what you know what I mean,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: It's like it's you you you you you pretty much
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: forced to. It's like, I know I didn't have the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: game bang, Like I didn't grow up like Section and
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: none of that ship, you know what I'm saying, like
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: food stamps, none of that ship. I didn't have none
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: of that ship. My mom was working and ship. She
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: was a single mom. I mean, we were still in
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the ghetto. I mean it was in a bullshit as apartment,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: still funked up, but I mean it was like emotional supporting,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like I still have some Jay's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: every now and then. Still I had the video game.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: My mom had a job, I'm saying, but we were
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: just in the hood, funked up. So it's like, um,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I did it because that's just what it was, Like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: just what it is, this is where and like what
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I can't explain it, that's just what
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it was. Just like I'm here and that's it's no
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: turning back all it is. But what it is also
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: too when you first get into it, it it's like
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a thing where you you just really just want to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: be down with it because that's just that's just your
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: people and that's just your boys, and you just want
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to be down with it. And then it gets serious.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Like I said, you may go to jail, or you
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: may lose a friend. And then that's when they get serious.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Once you lose somebody, are you in the mall or something,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: somebody asks you where you from? They beat the ship
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: out of you. Then you serious, you know you you
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It takes the situations At first, you're just jumping in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: blind like I'm with and I think to like the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: understanding and the draw that people have when they're faced
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: with like joining a situation like that. I mean, gangs
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: were rooted originally and being something good, you know they were.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: They were the offshoots of the Black Panther Party in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. They were created as a way to organize
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the people closest to you in your community, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: tect you from the rapist, the the white folks. That's
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: what's back in the day is like in the fifties
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and the sixties of black gangs. That was to keep
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the the white folks from coming over there beating us
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: up and spitting on us and doing like as they
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: used to come back. They used to come through the
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: hoods and stuff wants to like around the black panther time,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you know, doing little mean things the kids and egging people,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you know what're doing ship that kids, teenager kids do.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: But they were whiten, you know, because a couple of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: inn words is going to be said. So it was
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it was really to protect that and write like I said,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: rapists and people that's coming in your community trying to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: break into your house. It's like, no, this is our community.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: We're here, we're gonna police it because the cops are
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: gonna whoop our ass. Yeah, cops whooping our ass while
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we're calling them, like calling them, we're going to police
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: our own area. That's where it were started, just policing
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: our own area. And it really it seems like when
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the breakdown of the black family happened through crack, through
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the government putting crack in the hood, it's like that's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: where it got skewed and it began to kind of
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: morph into a bastardized verse another self that was not
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: necessarily beneficial to people, you know, because families started breaking down,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Like people were getting locked up for their entire lives
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: for small things. And really so many men were yanked
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: out of the area. You know, Um, so many people
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in jail for weed. Right still still people in California
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: jet prison for weed. And it's like, whoa, it's legalized
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: every fucking We're now all over the West coast Oregon,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: see Washington, California. Um, they're gonna get it through Arizona.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It's in Vegas. It's like I just walked into a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: shop today to pick up something from my little pen
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and it was like fancy. They were like THHC bath
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: bombs and you know, chocolates and make a whole household
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of hamp or some ship and people have literally lost
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: their entire lives. We do like it's silly they they
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: bade these laws for us, Like you get what I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: saying the crib notes for anybody listening that that maybe
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like what like I haven't experienced stuff
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like that. Rent Bastards of the Party. That's a really
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: great documentary on gang banging. Um. I would also say, watch, um,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: there's this there's this dope documentary to that. Um, what's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: what's the guy? Oh? God, he's famous. I can't think
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of him right now. Um. But it's about specifically the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: California printing prison system and it's so deep. Um, I
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: forget what it's called. Yeah, okay, you know dude, he's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: famous Latino actor. He has a bunch of taco shops
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: here in l A now, like businesses with the long
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: black hair he played. Yeah, okay, right now, I cannot
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: remember the name of this documentary, but Danny Treyhoe is
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: behind it and he near rates it and it's on
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: iTunes and it's fire. So google that and if I remember,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I will try to put a link in the notes
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to this episode, but no promises. Um. But you know, um,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: so talk to me about what made you stop doing drugs?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: And I know now you're on the keto life, so
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: what made you invest in your health? It was just
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like I was just like, fuck it, I'm where. I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: hit the gym because I was like two hundred and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: fifty pounds at one point I got real fat, and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I was just like, nah, I'm cool, you know what
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I mean. I was just like literally, that's what it was.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, I'm cold. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: was went to put my socks on. I was like
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I had to do all that. I was like, nah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I was over, and it was just over, the same
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: thing with drugs. I was just like I was high
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: one time and I wasn't feeling it, Like I'm a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: guy that I don't need rehabbing ship like for anything.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Like if I even we like I'm hiding ship right
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: now out too the reg reflect I'm like off edible
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and but but like like if I want to quit anything,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: i'd just be like, all right, it's over. I don't
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: want to do it. You know, I really like, you're
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: really really blessed. It just it just was real. Everything
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: was just hitting me like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. And
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I was just like I'm done. As I'm done. I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: threw the pills in the in the toilet, and Ship
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: threw all the pills and the toilets. I was cleansed.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was cleansed. I swear to God.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I was just like nope, I went straight to the gym.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: It was over. And then I got a trainer and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: ship and then he put me on the keyto ship
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm all about that keyto life. Yeah, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: then I started doing InterMute fasting. Yes, yeah, not right,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: but right now I'm not on the key too at
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: this moment. That's what. Like how you were describing yourself
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: is exactly how I felt. After the baby. I was like, nah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm cool. Nah, I'm not doing it like this, like
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: like you know, you've been inside my house, so it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like a big staircase. So once I came down for
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the day, I didn't have the energy to walk back
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: up ever. So I would pack myself like a little
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: bag for being downstairs for the day because I was like,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't be huffing and puffing going up
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and down all the time. And then once I was up,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I was up because it was just so much weight.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: It was like I was breathing like like you know
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: how like like Precious was breathing on the staircase. That
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: was me um. But then kto happened, and thank god,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the baby weight, you know, just slowly starts to melt off.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: But how old is your son? He he's he'll be
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: fifteen months in a few weeks. Yeah, you're at the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: baby shower. He had my biggest. Oh, thank you is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: what it is. He was bringing it. That is so
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: not politically correct up to be like, no that you
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: were straight? What it is? You as big as hell?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean it's gone. You shared it though it looked good. Yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: thank you? That was Yeah that was rough. Women have
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it hard, man. Yeah, my girl going through it now. Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: because you have a new baby. How old is the youngest? Now?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Six months? Oh my god. I want to come over
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and hold that baby. I missed that age so much.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And they have that special smell. Yeah, I love that smell,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: that little baby smell. It seems like it never go away. Right.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I would just bury my nose in like his neck,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm doing with my baby girl every time.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: That's like my little spot. I guess it right there,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and she started laughing. God, isn't it such like a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: sacred responsibility? Yeah, it's big. But right now I don't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: really do much, Like I never changed the diaper. What
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: how does that happen? I'm really like, Uh, it's gonna
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: sound weird. I'm like manly, manly when it comes to
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: like kids and stuff. What does that mean? Like? Um,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not like the dad that like cleans up or
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: like change diapers and let me tell you right now,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that's the people get like the Claude kids ready for school. What. Yeah,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't do that, but I do
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like the other stuff, like the other part right now,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the fun stuff to mainly I mean, but like I mean,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: my whole life is fun though, Like that's all I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: make I try to do is fun, Like you know
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: what I mean. I took my That was another reason
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I took my daughter out of school. I was like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I want her to have more fun just sitting in
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the home school right now. Yeahs like sitting in class
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: all day doing nothing where you can do all that
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: ship in two hours and go about your business, live
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: your day and going You guys have such a dope
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: relationship that I think that's one of the things too,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that I love so much about you. First of all,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: your stories on Instagram are very compelling. They're so fun.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: But like watching you and Joy like have these adventures
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: during the day and seeing how invested you are in
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: her soccer and her and in her achievements is really dope.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are And I know You're
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: not doing this on purpose, but do you feel like
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you're helping men that look like you understand fatherhood that
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: may not have had it. I know you're gonna say no,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: because yeah, but I just feel like suponscious you really are,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: because imagine all the men that don't know what fatherhood
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: looks like, and so they struggle with it because a
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people grow up without fathers, especially men of
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: color um in certain areas, like didn't grow up really
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: knowing what that meant. Like you understand, like, okay, I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: feel the emotion of love, but what do I actually
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: do in this role? You know? And I think that
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you kind of just by sharing your life are effortlessly
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: inspiring people, um and and just showing them like oh okay,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: he his child is fed, Oh okay, he's supporting her dreams,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you know, or he's he's showing up and encouraging her,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: helping her practice, or you know, taking her and her
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: friends out in the drop top and like you know, yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean that's just yeah, I'll just be doing that,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Every now and day. I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: thought my phone out, you know, just to funk around,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But I always said I wasn't gonna put my new
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: baby too on the on the camera because I felt like,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: only why I even still record joys because I felt
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: like I didn't gave people her life most since small
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of my career. She's been in all
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: my music videos since she was like a baby. Yeah
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like people are
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: kind of invested in and it's like it is what
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it is. She's already like you know, when we go places,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: people say hi to me, they say hi to Georgia.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Is that weird for her? Not really, She's used to it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: She kind of used to it because it was always
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: like she with me, and it's like she was always
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: getting attention anyway, because it's like you know, schoolboy qute daughter, right,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the school boy cute daughter or anything like
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: what up. So she's been meeting like famous people and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: like yeah, well and taking her on the Grammy carpet
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: both y'all imagine. Tell me tell me behind that decision,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: because for me, I was like looking at him being
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a feminist. I love this. So my daughter wanted to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: go to the Grammys. I don't go to really award shows.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I think I went to two awar shows literally that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Grammy and like guess two b T things so well
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: we were it was a radio room for me. Okay, yeah,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: but I did one BT Award. But yeah, I've been
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like I said, I've been nominated mad times for the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Grammys and all that ship and I never go. This
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: is like one time Joey was like, UM, like, let's go,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: let's go to the Grammys. I want to go. I
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: was just like, let's go. And I was like, I'm
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: gonna gim and get you right too. I was like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I told the cuddle, let's just wear pink and then
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I got her like the outfit or whatever, and I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: was and I was just like, i'mna just wear a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: hoodie and ship. You know what I'm saying. And I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: was just like me personally, I'm just thinking like um
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: as a man um and looking at sports and how
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: investor she is and like how much she cared and
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: how good a lot of these little girls are in sports.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: They deserved like attention to that makes sense. So like
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I um not even with my Instagram, like I kind
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: of like follow like mad female like athletes to like
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: just liking posts or do any anything I can do
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to help or like, you know, any any little thing
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying like this big enough
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: women more because I have two girls, and you want,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: okay to say you're a feminist. You are a feminist.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: You're a feminist. I don't even know what exactly, so
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: don't say that you're not. So how can I be
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: something that I don't even know what it is? Well,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I being a feminist at at like the root of it, right, Like,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: not not all the propaganda around the word over the
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: last several decades, but the roote of being a feminist
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: just means that you believe that inherently men and women
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: are equals, and that men aren't better than, or higher than,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: or deserving of more privileged than a woman because he
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: was born with the penis. Yeah, I mean I thought,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's how most people feel. It's just no,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: you'd be surprised. Oh it's the old people. Man, Like
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know people that think like that, Like you shouldn't.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I don't even know people like you love women and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you are a feminist and just accepted and standing that
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you're a great father to two girls. Like just saying that,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, women, But man, I'm just saying
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell that is, Like I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: still I thought everybody was thought everybody should be equal.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: When do you feel like you're awakening, like really geared up,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: like awake. I was saying, like maybe a year and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a half, two years ago, like where I just fully became.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Even when I was like in the Hawaiian ship, I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: was still in a weird spot. Yeah, it was like
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I was going like this, like I would I would happen.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I was trying to break through, you know what I mean.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I was trying to break through, and um, I think
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I fully broke through. And that's when I started notice
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to change it myself. But um, a fully excuse I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: fully broke through. Like a year and a half two
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: years ago, I started, uh like meditating to that ship like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: um pretty much every day. Um I love that, Like,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: tell me more about that. What's your spiritual practice? Do
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you do it in the morning when you wake up
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: every every morning? When I wake up every morning, that's
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like the first thing I do. I don't even brush
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: my teeth. I do it. It's like a wake up thing.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It's like you know where you wake up and most
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: people they just sitting there bed for a while. Scroll Yeah,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: they just do like I just once I get up,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I just get straight to it, because it's like it's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: fighting through your laziness. Because I think that's the problem
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: that we all have a humans. We start our day
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: off lazy, and it makes us lazy for our whole life.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: We've been training ourselves to be lazy our whole life.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: We wake up your life. You didn't rest my name,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: like you can get it together as you walk into
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the thing. They're thinking of your tasks. Don't get me wrong.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you are exhausted. Yeah, but I'm saying yeah, but
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: there's a different the normal bounce up just like go
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: do it. I just bounce up. Um, I'm not gonna
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: do it. I don't even I don't do nothing though.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I don't use the bathroom. I don't brush my teeth
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: on you. No, not just go straight to it. That
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just I don't know, man. I
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: do a lot of things better, like um, I don't know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: like even like with food ever since I started intermitted
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: fast and it's like I don't even eat for like
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: for taste anymore, just because I'm hungry. I really don't
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: care for food no more like that. Oh my god,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it's so crazy like that. So that's exactly how I
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: feel about it, because I started doing Intermitte fasting Wi Keto,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and I felt like it's a such a no pun
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: intendant but like weight off my shoulders because like a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: lot of my issues with food were based around the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: fact that I like delicious things, and I like, you know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I like the process of planning the meal or thinking
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: about what I'm gonna eat. I could be thinking about
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that for hours before I actually eat it, like, oh,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go have the sushi later or whatever, like
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: my favorite thing is. And then you eat and you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: chew and you smell and you know, it becomes this
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: whole thing that isn't actually about like nourishment for your body, um,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and so then you know, it feels good, it tastes good.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: You do what every chance that you get, and then
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it's like a million calories later. But through Internet avascinating
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: through Keto is completely restructured, like my relationship with food
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and just my ability to to like tap into how
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: my body feels. Like I feel way more connected to
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: my body. I have a way more energy to Yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: like I can do things so much better on an
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: empty stomach than being full, Like oh my god, waking
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: up in the morning and like going to the gym
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: on an empty stomach is like the best, the most energy.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Like people don't understand it. They like how you do
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that at all? Bro, I gotta eat. I'm like, dude,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you have you have no idea, Like I mean, but
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you know, teach his own. But I mean, at the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: same time, it's just like, bro, don't knock it, like
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you ain't even trying. You ain't never tried it. You know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: people be having hell of opinions on it based off
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Instagram because like he don't want Instagram makes people think
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you're eating bacon and butter all day, you know what
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm like, no, read a book, like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that's not what it is at all. Also, you did
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: not worry about my health when I was eating crazy
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: all day. But because I say I'm doing this, it's like, oh, well,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: where do you get your your vitamins? And it's like
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: shut up, no, but yeah, it's it's dope. I wanna again.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: As you know, I'm very fascinated by you and your story.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I think that we have we have a lot of
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: similarities to that I didn't realize, like when I first
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I knew you, Like we're both only children raised by
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: single mothers. For periods of time, we were latchkey kids,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: like getting ourselves ready or taking care of ourselves alone.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Um and there for me, like that that's really where
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of my awakening comes from. Like even though
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I wasn't always the most spiritually in tune or always
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: making the best decisions, I feel like by nature of
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: being an only child, in that type of predicament, you
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: become really self aware because you're inside your own head
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: so much Like did you have that experience where you
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: feel like you are in your own mind a lot
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: of the time? Or yeah, only child? Fuck mine is crazy.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You always got some idea you always what? Yeah, Like
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: you're always dissecting things like experiences only child as a
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: gift and a curse. Man, It's like because you most
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of only childs are like really really really creative.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, they are really independent.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I love being alone, like I love being alone, like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I only go to the movies by myself. I never
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: go to the movies with like my girl, I'm like
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: my kid and ship. I only go by myself every
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: now and then like you know, like Aladdin or Frozen.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I Frozen was crazy. Frozen was the last straw for me.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: What I was like, I'm done with this little kid
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: movie ship. Like I'm like, I'm cool. I'm never coming
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: to none of this little kids ship. We're gonna do
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the daddy ship, like we're gonna go watch it or
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: some ship that's doing then we're gonna we're gonna do it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do like you know what I'm saying, some
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: other old adult movie you want to see or some ship,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do that. I'm gonna take you to do
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: it with myma ain't going probably say no. I'm gonna
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: be like, let's do it. No, but like like legitimately,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: like as the only child, like I like taking myself
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to lunch alone. I like like I've really if you're
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: not the only child, you may not be able to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: get this. So it may sound crazy, but I feel
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: like I am my like and I'm blessed with many
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: incredible friends, but I feel like I'm my best friend.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Like I really like myself and like spending time with myself.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm funny. I think I'm brilliant.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Like I think I'm dope. I get real. Do you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: get irritated with people too? Like do you like need
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: space from people sometimes? Too? I do? And you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: it's so funny because I'm also a Gemini and people
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: would always be like, oh, Gemini always mood swings, and
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I was like no, and I started looking at it,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily mood swings. But I do crave
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: my own space, Like I don't like being around a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: lot of noise all the time or a lot of
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: people doing a lot of things all the time. Like
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I really like a little bit of isolation sprinkled in
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: my life. It's I always have that thing, like I'll
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: be around a bunch of people, like even like doing music,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and I can't be with a producer really for too
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: long because it's like, all right, I need something, do
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: something else, you know. Like I even go to the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: studio and record by myself, like just me and the engineer,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Like most of my music is done like by myself. Yeah,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Like I may have a bunch of people in the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: studio at times, and I may write the song and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I just just won't even record it just because it's
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: people in there and ship and like I come back
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the next day or something like early, because like, um,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: sometimes I do like sessions like like eight am, you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and I normally like when I'm just recording that fresh voice,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that fresh like off the wake up. I love so
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: love writing music around that time. To fresh off to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: wake up. Your mind is just fresh. Nothing ame been,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: It hasn't been messed with, no toxic, no nothing, no
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: no anything that goes So again, like what most people
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: stereotype of like an artist or a rapper is it's like, no,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I don't get to the studio to eleven PM and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: then we don't start till two am, and then I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: sleep my whole day away. Yeah that's um, but it's
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: weird because three am is the magic hour. Yeah, that's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: that's the magic hour. Though. Like it's something about like
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: being a half tired the creativity and being half tired
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so so crazy, Like I wrote some of my craziest
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: songs around three four in the morning, being in the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: studio all day and then just like um, finally coming
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: up with it, like when you're thinking like fucking I'm
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: gonna just get out of here, then it's just like
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: catch it. You just like like the craziest ship, Like, um,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: all my most of my like storytelling, like I did Tales,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Late Night, Crash Talk, I've done oh studio, studio. I
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: did studio like Super Smash in the Morning, um Kyla
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Greens and Man of the Year. It was like I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: did those in the same night. Oh so yeah three
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: in the morning really is your time? Yea, Like literally
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the same night because they were pressing me about the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: album like oh we we we need some singles, this
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: your first album, blah blah blah this that we need
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: some singles. And I was in the studio all day
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: just trying to four ship. Then like three or four
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: o'clock came and I just knocked them ships out like
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I was like here, then my album was done. I
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: remember that like that's one of my like, uh, it's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: like one of my championship moments of my career that
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I always remember. It's like they was pressing me, pressing
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: me and then talking about pushing the album back and
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: all this ship because I was a new artist, so
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to just throw me out there, you know.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And then I did those ships the same night under
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the pressure, right right when I thought it was over,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Like fuck, I can't do it. I can't come up
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: with this ship. Keep in mind, already had studio. The
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: studio was a interlude, it was already on the album,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and that would end up being the number one record.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: But still it was just like, bro, I did that
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: ship that fast that night, under that pressure and handed
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: in and made the deadline and all of them are
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: double platinum kyl of Green's double platinum in your double
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: platinum studios like triple or four times platinum, and it
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: went number one. But yeah, just like it's just crazy though,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: like all three o'clock, four o'clock, can we talk about
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: my favorite song? Which you know which one? And you're
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: gonna get mad? No, no, that well, that is absolutely
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: my favorite song on Crashtalk. But in your discography, oh
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: my god, that is so like the first time you
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: told me you hated that song. It hurt me and
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: my soul. Um not that good. It is good, and
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I understand like your your critique of it is sonically
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you feel like now you record better, But the feel
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of it, like the message of it, the lyrics of it,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: like so I have I have a playlist that I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: made right and I call it um. I just call
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: it like my my favorite things playlist, um and whenever
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like whenever I'm going through challenges or experiencing depression,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Like that's a playlist I play all the time. The
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: playlist has I think nineteen days worth of music on it, right,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But like the requirement for it for me was the
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: only songs that can make it on. There are songs
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that spark joy, like songs that make me smile or
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: make me feel good, right, and so like two of
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the songs that have been that song has been my
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: goal to since it came out, Like I used to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: start every single day with that song. But that song,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that song and now god by Dot like both of
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: those records to me, like just speak to my soul
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and and also randomly, um a record by John A.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Do you remember them now? I'll play it for you later.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: It's some R and B from the nineties. But like
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: those songs both like just connect me to like sacred Energy,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you know, ye man, I hate that song embarrassing, embarrassing
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: You're talking about being blessed and someone keeping their head up,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Like like to me, that's like pop keep your head
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: up when I hear that song. And that's on my
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: playlist to executed. Oh my god, you're a very harsh
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: critic of yourself. I've come to find man because I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't even watching. I watched the interview did with Charlotte
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: manin Um, and you were like you were being so
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: critical of yourself, and it was so surprising to me
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: in that interview, like do you do you think that
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you're somebody that can take time to like celebrate you
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: or appreciate it for what? What do you mean? I mean? People?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I mean, I know, I'm I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: breathe confidence, I believe, I scream confidences. Um, I just like, um,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like where most people
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: just be quiet about things I said. So it may
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: seem like I'm more like you know, sometimes you do
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: songs and you like, damn that ship is not that tight.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: It is what It's like, It's cool, I'm doing another one.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I ain't driven, like you know what I'm saying, Like
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it's like I don't know, so like I don't know.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I was really bad at
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: lying too, so I used to get in trouble a
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: lot for lying. So I was I was I was
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: just always like because I used to try to lie
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a lot. You want to come and I was a
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: big lie. Um, but I was terrible that I would
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: get or my mom would just let it slide. And
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: but I can tell you know I'm lying, and then
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: it's really hard for me. It was just over. Yeah,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: it's too much stress to me to lie, Like I
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: would just rather say whatever the truth is and catch
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: my faith like whatever life throws at me when it
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: comes to like a stranger, I have I mean, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: have lied plenty of plenty of times. I'm a strong
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: believer in protecting uh my my my or and my energy. Like, um,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: if I have to uh send you on a different
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: path to get you off my road, I'm just going.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna lie to you on some
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: some silly as ship like oh yeah, I meet you
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and then never show up. You know it like that,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: but like just a little patty bullshit, little just to
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: get you to funk away from somebody toxic because you
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: know he's Sometimes the truth can get you hurt too.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the truth could cause a big, big problem when
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: you could just diffuse it and just walk away from
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: on on great terms. So line is never not. Is
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: that something really important to you, like keeping um, just
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: keeping your space really clear. Yeah, yeah, because you you.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want to run into no problems, man Like
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I live my life too well of like just chilling
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and just living a good life. And I don't want
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: to funk it up by like fucking with some That's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the only way you suck it up. People get into
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: your head and do ship like I changed something about
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: me when I'm ready to change something about me, you
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like even with depressed people like um,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: in suicide, it's somebody else's it's not necessarily always them.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Is somebody else too, that's rather to be social media.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: They're constantly looking at or you know, whatever it is.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: There's something else that's that's constantly in the head. You
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: gotta you gotta diffuse everything. And like depression is just
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: letting you just learn you that something's wrong with yourself
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: is just another sign. It's like another sign of like
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: like being like you know, like a warranted sign, like yeah,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: it's just one part of your sense. Like that's why
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't get depressed if we didn't have no need
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I'm saying that happens to us. That
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't we need fear, Like you know what I'm saying here,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you need all that ship. It's so powerful to me
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: that you say that, because I'm definitely somebody that has
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: experienced depression many times in my life at varying degrees. Now,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I've always been a highly functional depressed person, Like I've
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: always been able to like still execute life at a
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: high level. Um. But you know, I'm a deep feeler.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I'm a very emo person, and so I've had a
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: lot of different moments. Um. I also get seasonally depressed,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm somewhere where it's dark and cold and rainy,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: like I will be down. But when the sun is out,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I'm solar powered and I'm like, like, I can't feel
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: sad if the sun is shining on me. Um. But
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: part of what really helped me in my own journey
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: with depression, I remember I heard Mary Ann Williamson speak once.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I went to one of her events, and she talks
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: a lot about depression, and she said a similar to
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: point to what you just said, and it changed my
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: whole life, like it changed my whole worldview, like she
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: says she like for her, depression is that warning sign
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: from God, from the universe that it's time to level up,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it's time to change something. And so she looks at
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: whenever she feels depression coming on, almost like how a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: bear would with hibernation, Like you get prepared for what
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: you know is about to happen, so you can protect
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: yourself and get yourself out of it, right, so you
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: don't just succumb to it. Um. And that was like
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: really revolutionary for me because I've never heard, like, whenever
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: people used to talk about depression or mental health, except
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: for recently, it was always kind of like in a
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: very shameful way, or in a way that was just like, well,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: why don't you just think happy thoughts or just get
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: out of the house and do something. It's like, nah,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: that's not really how it works, um. But when I
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: heard her talk like that, it changed the way that
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I deal with it. So whenever I feel like overwhelmed
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: or I feel just a little off, I I like
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: will take the afternoon to focus on preparing myself for
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: this feeling. So like I'll write affirmation cards, or I'll
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: start meditating, or I do a lot of soundbold stuff
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: and like I'll make you know I'll make a playlist
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: that I know will will force me to find a
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: smile on a hard day, you know, just like all
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: these little hacks, if you will to just nourish yourself
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: when you're not in a good space. Yeah, that's that's
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: definitely important doing all that, like meditating, Like if they
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: should teach that in schools too, they should, I think
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: about it. They should not be sick. I mean, but
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: you know some parents and ship man, that's world is
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: so weird. Like some parents are so freaking weird. They'd
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: probably be pissed. Yeah, you got my sole meditated hearing.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Now those are the same parents that be like, you're
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: teaching science in the school, that's not How do you
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: how do you deal with depression whenever you feel it coming?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Um I haven't felt it in a minute, but recently
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I got to golf like a year and some change,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: and um, I was depressed right before that, and I
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: didn't even know I was depressed. Like sometimes that can
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: happen to you too, So I'm just not right. But
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: like like you said, when you're a functional you can
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: be functional and be depressed at the same time. Sometimes
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: you can just to be lost in space and I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: know what's going on. So I found golf and it
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: gave me something to do before going to the studio.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: What it was, what I really think it was my
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: life was I was going through more withdraws from the drugs.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, because I quit cold Turkey.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: So it takes a long time to really because every
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: now and then, you you you get that urge, you
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: get that feeling, you just get gronging and you just
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: get aggy and like just weird, you know what I'm saying.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: But I had something to do before I go to
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the studio that was really really important for me and
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  Speaker 1: good for me. Like being outside, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like going like we don't go outside. We don't go outside.
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  Speaker 1: We go outside to take the trash. I'll walk to
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  Speaker 1: our car going into the destination. Motherucker work out for
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  Speaker 1: an hour ago, run and els or something. Thank you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: mother's supposed to be outside, like back in the days,
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  Speaker 1: even motherfucker's had to go outside for entertainment. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And like even if it's just
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  Speaker 1: watching your neighbors on the porch, like you would be
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  Speaker 1: go outside the community. Probably don't know five neighbors over here, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I only know me and my neighbor to the left
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  Speaker 1: of me talk all the time. But other than that,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know nobody's name. You don't know the person
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  Speaker 1: across the street and right there right now, Like where
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in the hood, like I knew everybody
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  Speaker 1: on the block, Like literally every person on the block
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I knew. But it's different too, like as you, because
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: like you, you live in a very affluent community, you
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like the world's change, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you're kind of like a lot of the people
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: in my neighborhood are very very old, um, and they
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  Speaker 1: don't like the fact that a young black couple lives
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  Speaker 1: on the street, you know what I mean. So they're
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  Speaker 1: not really wanted me to come over with asking for
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  Speaker 1: sugar or whatever. Yeah. I love that though, because it
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  Speaker 1: is it is important to be outside, It is important
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  Speaker 1: to connect with source. Like those are really useful tools
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  Speaker 1: to even just growing yourself, giving yourself time to think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to not always have to be stimulated in
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  Speaker 1: some way. Yeah, like um, talking to people outside of
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  Speaker 1: your damn phone. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like we only talk to people outside of my phone,
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  Speaker 1: and then when we're talking to somebody, were still all
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  Speaker 1: on our phone. Thank you for coming on the show.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you, I love you, I honor you. Thank you. App.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're I just think you're a really really
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  Speaker 1: incredible person. Que And I'm just I'm just so excited
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  Speaker 1: for you because I think that you have been such
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a great person, but now that you're at this new
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: evolution of yourself and you don't even fully realize like
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Like I'm just yeah, I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 1: just super hype for you at all times. I celebrate
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you at all times, and you're one of my favorite humans.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, thank you so much. Man, congrats to you
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  Speaker 1: and everything to man. You know, taking a leap of
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: faith doing things on your own now, and like, um,
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  Speaker 1: let's take you drop your nuts when you did that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, it's take you. Gotta
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  Speaker 1: be bold to take a leap of faith and drop
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: your nuts. That's for me and home and said, you
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, like drop your nuts and go
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: go after it like fuck it visualizing that happening and
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  Speaker 1: actually doing it, you know what I'm saying. That's a
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: big step. So congrats to you man, you deserve it.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, everybody, stay open, peace big. Thank
• 57:47
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  Speaker 1: This show is executive produced by Adrian Scott and me
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  Speaker 1: Debbie Brown. Our theme music was created by producer Day
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