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The Rita Panahi Show | 2 July · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On Scarland's Australia leaves is the Rita Panahe Show. Good
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  Speaker 1: evening and welcome to the Rita Panhee Show. I'm James Morrow,
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  Speaker 1: filling in for Rita this week. Coming up tonight, politicians
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  Speaker 1: dress up for the annual Midwinter Ball aka the Nerd
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  Speaker 1: prom and some guests I gotta say missed the mark.
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  Speaker 1: My panel will join me to discuss that and a
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  Speaker 1: bit more of this day's serious news. In a little
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  Speaker 1: bit plus, Julia Gillard roseback her government's controversial changes to
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  Speaker 1: the Sex Discrimination Act too little, too late. Rachel Wong
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  Speaker 1: will be here to discuss that. Also from the US,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Hammer, we'll have the latest, including on the communist
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  Speaker 1: takeover of the Democrat Party? Can it be stopped? Should
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  Speaker 1: it be stopped? And Karl Stefanovitch tells Piers Morgan that
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  Speaker 1: he already had plans to leave. Nine Claora Walker will
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  Speaker 1: bring us the latest entertainment news. Oh also, I almost
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  Speaker 1: forgot left. He's losing it New Yorkers. They're really embracing
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  Speaker 1: getting the warm embrace of collectivism during a heat wave.
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  Speaker 1: You I'm not gonna want to miss that. Now. Last
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  Speaker 1: night we had Canbra's night of nights, the annual Midwinter Ball.
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  Speaker 1: While these evenings are usually an opportunity for politicians to
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  Speaker 1: forget about politics, yet right of course we get that
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  Speaker 1: it's all about grandstanding. There were some interesting costumes. Animal
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  Speaker 1: Justice MP Georgie Purcell wore address stating defund dog racing
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  Speaker 1: with an oddly placed crucifix on it. But the big
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  Speaker 1: story of the night was from the charity auction where
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  Speaker 1: mortgage broker Joseph da Ud, who has been a vocal
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  Speaker 1: critic one of many of the government's tax changes, forked
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  Speaker 1: out sixteen thousand dollars five hundred dollars to win a
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  Speaker 1: tennis game with the Prime Minister. Well that'll be awkward,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Now joining me to discussed this and a
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  Speaker 1: lot more is former Liberal MP Nicole Flint and founder
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  Speaker 1: of a Doni Media Lisa Goddard The Golf Flint, I'll
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  Speaker 1: start with you here the Midwinter Ball. What do you
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  Speaker 1: make of this annual show where everybody sort of makes
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  Speaker 1: a show of getting dressed up. A lot of them
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  Speaker 1: don't really do that. Well, I got to stay sticking
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  Speaker 1: to the black tie dress code. Read for my money,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, Ethny ALBERNIZI was dressed up. He looked like
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  Speaker 1: a little man on the wedding peak.
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  Speaker 2: Look it's for a good cause, ultimately, James. So they're
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  Speaker 2: raising money for charity. And so I would say about
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  Speaker 2: the Prime minister's tennis match, that was mortgage mortgaged, which
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  Speaker 2: was won by at auction by a mortgage broker who
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  Speaker 2: wants to have some very firm words rightly with the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister about the mess he is making of the
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  Speaker 2: property market right now. At least, for once, we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister using tennis for good, because of course
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, when he's usually associated with tennis, is
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  Speaker 2: running away from a scandal or disaster. I mean we
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  Speaker 2: all remember and viewers would remember when he flew into
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  Speaker 2: our springs during the riots for what two hours, and
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  Speaker 2: then spent longer at the Australian Open, and then of
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  Speaker 2: course he flew to Perth to play tennis on lawn
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  Speaker 2: tennis courts at one of Western Australia's most prestigious tennis clubs,
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  Speaker 2: as a synagogue had been burnt down in Melbourne. So
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  Speaker 2: at least, for once, we're saying the Prime Minister used
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  Speaker 2: tennis for good, which is to raise money for charity.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's wonderful to see democracy in action
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  Speaker 2: whereby someone who has a very important acts to grind
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  Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister about the absolute messes making of
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  Speaker 2: our property market can do so.
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  Speaker 1: It live Godard. I was just thinking, here, wouldn't it
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  Speaker 1: be fun if they had a second auction of seats
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  Speaker 1: where you could go and you could watch this tennis
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  Speaker 1: match between Anthony Albnezi and the Warriors Broker and listen
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  Speaker 1: in as the two of them hit the ball across
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  Speaker 1: the deck. But on the subject of the Midwig's ball,
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  Speaker 1: it does I don't know. It does strike me as
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  Speaker 1: a little bit self important that the press gallery does
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  Speaker 1: this and it doesn't feel like a very sort of
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  Speaker 1: in touch kind of event.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Pauline Hansen didn't think it was an in touch
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  Speaker 3: kind of event. You didn't bother turning up, did she?
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  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people do exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I have to say that if Clipy showed at the
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  Speaker 3: beginning with the dress, no one should have a slogan
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  Speaker 3: on their backside, no matter what you think of politics.
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  Speaker 3: That is bad taste. Look, I've talk further to what
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  Speaker 3: Nicole was saying. When you talk about the tennis match.
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  Speaker 3: The advantage here, you would have to think is like
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  Speaker 3: the tennis play is absolutely with this mortgage broker. He's
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  Speaker 3: been very smart. He's run this is a pr campaign
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  Speaker 3: seventy five hundred dollars on the first ad blitz. Now
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  Speaker 3: winning this auction. I tell you what, Albanzey won't be
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  Speaker 3: happy about hitting that court and he said there's guaranteed
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  Speaker 3: to be hospitality. Hospitality assured was part of.
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  Speaker 1: The hospitality assured. Well, I'll tell you what, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to put it out there. I think this is one
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  Speaker 1: tennis match where there's not going to be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of love anyway. Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. But
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  Speaker 1: on another subject here was absolutely gobsmacked when I read
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  Speaker 1: this survey here which found that almost one in six
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  Speaker 1: year twelve students in the great State of New South
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  Speaker 1: Wales received special disability provisions during their HSC exams and
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  Speaker 1: being exams they take at the end of high school.
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  Speaker 1: The most common special provisions were around rest breaks during exam,
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  Speaker 1: getting a reader, or getting extra times and analysis from
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  Speaker 1: the Australian Newspaper found that the main beneficiaries of this
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  Speaker 1: Oh you wouldn't believe this were students from wealthier backgrounds. Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: This seems again like one of these things where all
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  Speaker 1: of the disability provisions in our society, whether it's in
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  Speaker 1: schools or ndis, they're just getting abused and abused and abused.
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  Speaker 2: Well, clearly people are gaming the system, and you would
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  Speaker 2: assume it's because wealthier people probably have higher education and
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  Speaker 2: have just worked out how to honestly wrote the system,
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  Speaker 2: which is just appalling for Australian taxpayers. But I feel
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  Speaker 2: tremendously sorry for this generation of kids because they're sailing
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  Speaker 2: through the system with a lot of assistants that won't
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  Speaker 2: be there in the real world. So what happens to
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  Speaker 2: them when they finish school and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: you've got to turn up to work and there is
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  Speaker 2: no disability provision because you what was it, You know,
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  Speaker 2: you're a slow reader or something. You've just got to
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  Speaker 2: actually make it in the real world. So they're being
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  Speaker 2: set up to fail, I think, and so their parents
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  Speaker 2: should have a good hard look at themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is a really interesting point here, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur, You've been hiring people your whole life.
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  Speaker 1: Here are you concerned about what happens to this generation
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  Speaker 1: that has been molly coddled in this way, or at
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  Speaker 1: least you know a certain proportion of them have been
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  Speaker 1: and told you know, well, you're a winner, no matter
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  Speaker 1: what the results are. How does that happen when that
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  Speaker 1: makes contact with the real world.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's not just the special privileges of getting through exacts,
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  Speaker 3: but it's also AI. You've got a whole generation now
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  Speaker 3: coming through where goodness knows, four years ago, five years ago,
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  Speaker 3: I had trouble finding people who could use grammar and
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  Speaker 3: spell correctly. So now you put AI into the picture,
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  Speaker 3: it's completely different again. But going back to the special
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  Speaker 3: exemptions that were given to children, I had a daughter
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  Speaker 3: who graduated last year. It was a private school. I
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  Speaker 3: know there were a lot of children who were given
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  Speaker 3: these exemptions because you're in a network where you can
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  Speaker 3: access the medical authorities that can give you those types
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  Speaker 3: of pieces of paper and allow you the extra time,
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  Speaker 3: the special rooms, and look, there are absolutely children there
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  Speaker 3: who deserve it. But is it being raughted? I think
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  Speaker 3: it is. And the other problem you've got is GPS
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  Speaker 3: are now so easily able to diagnose people with ADHD
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  Speaker 3: that will then qualify them, so you're going to see
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  Speaker 3: this number rise even further.
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  Speaker 1: It's I think it's just disgraceful. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to line up with a generation that
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  Speaker 1: is not really equipped to deal with the real world,
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  Speaker 1: real world where they're not able to get these provisions
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the workplace have to compete on their merits. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, well yet maybe hey, I want to move
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  Speaker 1: on to this topic here. And I know that you
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  Speaker 1: guys both really wanted to have some fun with this
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  Speaker 1: because frankly I love this story too well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: love it. Love is maybe the wrong word, but I
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  Speaker 1: was amazed. Shall we say that taxpayers have forked over
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  Speaker 1: out over three thousand dollars for a get this, a
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  Speaker 1: sustainability influencer. Did you know that this was a job
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  Speaker 1: I did? Maybe some of those kids we were just
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  Speaker 1: talking about they'll go on to be sustainability influencers. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: this three thousand dollars sustainability influencer went on a three
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  Speaker 1: day junket to spru it the flailing snowy two point
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  Speaker 1: zero project. Now, Sarah Aubrey was given one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: a day to go and put content up and say
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  Speaker 1: that this, and she said that the project, which is
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  Speaker 1: potentially going to cost tens of billions of dollars, is
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  Speaker 1: value for money. Have a look, this.
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  Speaker 3: Thing's going to last one hundred and fifty years and
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  Speaker 3: by twenty fifty will meet half of Australia's energy needs.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty amazing, right, Pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That she could say that with a street feast cale.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's good work if you can get it, isn't it? James?
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  Speaker 2: But personally, if I was going to be setting myself
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  Speaker 2: up as an influencer, I'd rather go on a fabulous
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  Speaker 2: holiday somewhere. I don't think snowy hydrates would be my
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  Speaker 2: first choice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what are you really there's an influencer,
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  Speaker 1: Rather be an influencer going to you know, Hawaii or.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my favorite part of this was it what did
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  Speaker 3: she describe as it's tickli boo? When did tikey boo
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  Speaker 3: become a term that you can now relate to some
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  Speaker 3: sort of failed government project that's blown out to what
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  Speaker 3: ten billion dollars right now?
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be ten billions, there's a could be
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  Speaker 1: all up forty two.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the other kicker. When you look at her
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  Speaker 3: Instagram account. The majority of those point and I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: neither of you did that this morning, but the majority
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  Speaker 3: of the Instagram posts are looking at ev vehicles and
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  Speaker 3: sizing up this is great boot space. This one has
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  Speaker 3: a hook for you, you shopping bags. So that's who the
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  Speaker 3: government has brought in for their three thousand dollars to
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  Speaker 3: be telling us how great this feled project is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a you know, I think we need an
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  Speaker 1: influencer to be going out there and saying what this
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  Speaker 1: Stowe Hadro two point zero project needs is actually a
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  Speaker 1: royal commission into how they got this so wrong, and
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  Speaker 1: in fact maybe even you know, we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: the education system before what they're teaching in the schools
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  Speaker 1: that people like Malcolm Turnbull went to who were behind
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  Speaker 1: the project, that said, oh well, physics don't really apply here,
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  Speaker 1: and you could move water uphill and then get more
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  Speaker 1: energy all the way back down. It just doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: any sense. But anyway, we move on. There's plenty of
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  Speaker 1: other things here going around. I was also fascinated by
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  Speaker 1: this here. One Nation. Senator Sean Bell, He's from New
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  Speaker 1: South Wales, has blamed government translation services and migrant programs
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  Speaker 1: for reinforcing division in society. He blamed the government for
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  Speaker 1: encouraging quote enclaves where English is rarely spoken, employment is limited,
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  Speaker 1: and welfare dependency becomes entrenched the conflict. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: sympathetic to this idea because you do have big sways
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  Speaker 1: of Western Sydney, Western Melbourne, you know, where English is
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  Speaker 1: not the first language. English is not spoken at home.
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  Speaker 1: People are allowed to conduct and transact their business in
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  Speaker 1: their mother tongue. This does seem like a big shift
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  Speaker 1: away from you know, let's say when we were bringing
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of Greeks and Italians after the war
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  Speaker 1: and the Menzies government said come, please be welcome, but
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  Speaker 1: you've got to learn English.
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  Speaker 2: And you wrote an excellent column recently on this very point, James,
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  Speaker 2: and I would encourage all of our viewers to actually
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  Speaker 2: have a look at it. The problem is precisely what
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  Speaker 2: you've just described. This is an entry point problem. We
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  Speaker 2: need to have really tough rules when we let people
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  Speaker 2: into the country, rather than retrospectively try to fix their
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  Speaker 2: lack of English language skills. There is of course a
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  Speaker 2: place for translation services on issue that are particularly important.
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  Speaker 2: I would say, you know, financial or medical, just for example.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem here is we are letting people in
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  Speaker 2: without the standards that we used to apply to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that they would be successful integrated Australian citizens. We
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  Speaker 2: shared our values and shared our language. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's I don't think it's really necessary to become
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  Speaker 2: translation services. I think we need to be toughening up
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  Speaker 2: our entry point requirements for any migrants coming to Australia
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  Speaker 2: and wanting the great privilege of Australian citizenship.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, But Lisa doesn't this also tie into the you know,
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  Speaker 1: Paul enhanced me have been a bit clumsy when she
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  Speaker 1: spoke about a monoculture. But one thing that you kind
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  Speaker 1: of need if you're going to have a successful society
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of different groups in it is a
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  Speaker 1: common language. And it feels like government programs are very
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  Speaker 1: much at the moment tilted towards saying no, we don't
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  Speaker 1: need to have anything in carbon.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's no incentive if you have all of the
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  Speaker 3: translation services there, and I agree with you. You need
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  Speaker 3: them for health when there's an emergency, But at this point,
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  Speaker 3: you can come into this country and you don't need
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  Speaker 3: to assimilate, You don't need to learn English, because we're
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  Speaker 3: making sure that our taxpayer dollars are there funding programs
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  Speaker 3: to support you in your native tongue, in your community
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  Speaker 3: that you're building separate to us, almost. And I think
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  Speaker 3: it's unfair to take a shot at Sean Bell over
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  Speaker 3: this because what he has said is what the majority
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  Speaker 3: of people who are supporting one Nation truly believe. And
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  Speaker 3: I had a conversation on the weekend with somebody who said, look,
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  Speaker 3: it's the polite Australians. You go to a dinner party
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  Speaker 3: and it's the people who you would not pick to
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  Speaker 3: be a one nation supporter, who won't say it publicly,
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  Speaker 3: but in a tight group. He described it as a
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  Speaker 3: polite Australians and this is one of the things that
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  Speaker 3: sticks with them. They're not speaking English, they don't want
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  Speaker 3: to be part of Australia, and.
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  Speaker 1: You go to some parts of town and it does
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  Speaker 1: feel like you're in a foreign country and I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that that is a big issue.
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  Speaker 1: But I was just talking about this other story out
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  Speaker 1: of the UK here because this really amazed me. And
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk about diversity and integration, Well, apparently,
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  Speaker 1: and this started with reporting of the Spectator magazine. The
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  Speaker 1: UK Treasury has removed a numeracy test. Keep in mind,
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  Speaker 1: this is the Treasury from its graduate scheme to boost diversity. Now,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this explains why the UK finances are in such
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  Speaker 1: a mess. But apparently the government department quietly scrapped the
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  Speaker 1: numerical reasoning test from its application process in twenty twenty. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this is the Treasury. A lot of numerical reasoning involved there,
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  Speaker 1: owing to quote evidence of the test having an adverse
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  Speaker 1: impact on candidate diversity. Nicole, you can't make this up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it just doesn't add up, doesn't That's good? Come on,
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  Speaker 2: this is just madness. I mean this is Look, Western
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  Speaker 2: civilization has some really big issues right now. If you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to require people who work for the Tree,
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  Speaker 2: who were paid by taxpayers, to have basic numerical skills,
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  Speaker 2: and we might as well all pack up and go home. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just that is just outrageous.
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  Speaker 5: Well maybe outrageous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a word guy. I can't do maths.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I've got a job at the UK Treasury.
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  Speaker 3: It depends on your emotional inq Q is a I
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  Speaker 3: guess it's the diversity Ledger. I see you, yo, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't add up, and it's the diversity ledger. That's what
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  Speaker 3: they're focused on. And unfortunately we spend so much time
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  Speaker 3: arguing about people have to have their job because of merit,
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  Speaker 3: not gender, but it's also now diversity is the box
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  Speaker 3: I need to tick. It doesn't matter if you can't
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  Speaker 3: do the bumps. Just it's mind boggling.
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  Speaker 1: It is mind boggling, and unfortunately we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: leave it with our minds boggled. Lisa Gonnard, Nicole Flint,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. Well, this is
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  Speaker 1: some pretty big news here. Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard
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  Speaker 1: has rowed back a bit on her government's controversial changes
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  Speaker 1: to the Australian Sex Discrimination Act, which she signed into
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  Speaker 1: law back in twenty thirteen. Now, over the past several months,
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  Speaker 1: she's faced a series of protests by pro women activists
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  Speaker 1: in the UK, highlighting how that legislative change thirteen years
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  Speaker 1: ago had a disastrous impact on women's rights. She told
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  Speaker 1: an audience in Manchester at Manchester University last night that quote,
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  Speaker 1: it was a different time than have a look.
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  Speaker 6: It was a different time. It wasn't something squarely before
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  Speaker 6: the Parliament at the time that the legislation was being amended.
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  Speaker 1: Well, joining me now to pick through this and whether
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  Speaker 1: or not it's actually a genuine reversal. Of course, here
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  Speaker 1: is Women's former Australia CEO Rachel Wong. Rachel, at first
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  Speaker 1: I think this is quite extraordinary, but it feels like
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  Speaker 1: reading her comments more in full, that she's trying to
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  Speaker 1: still have a bed each way, that yes, okay, they
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  Speaker 1: made the changes to the law, but we just didn't
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  Speaker 1: really quite see what was going to happen, when I
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  Speaker 1: think pretty much everybody at the time did see what
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  Speaker 1: was going to happen.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I think you're right. I think she is trying
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  Speaker 6: to keep a foot in both camps. I think that
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  Speaker 6: given in the past in relation to these questions, she
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  Speaker 6: would sort of say, oh, that's kind of a gotcha
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  Speaker 6: question and wouldn't really answer it. I think there has
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  Speaker 6: been a little bit of progress. I think she is
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  Speaker 6: starting to acknowledge that there are some issues that have
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  Speaker 6: come about as a result of the amendments to the
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  Speaker 6: Sex Discrimination Act back when her government was in power,
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  Speaker 6: and I think that she's basically acknowledging that there wasn't
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  Speaker 6: really a full debate about those issues at the time,
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  Speaker 6: and so I think that is some progress.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I think the fact that her.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: Saying, well, it was a different time is clearly a
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: cop out. And at the end of the day, it's
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: less about whether the consequences we're foreseen at the time,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: which obviously is important, but more about the fact that
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: now that they are abundantly clear. Where we have women
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: being sexually assaulted in prisons by men identifying as women,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: we have women and girls being injured in sports by
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: the same Now that the consequences are abundantly clear, is
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: the current government going to do anything at it? And
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: judging by this week where Labor and the Greens banded
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: together to block not one but two bells to restore
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: six base protections to the Act, I think the answer
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: is probably know at this stage.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: What do you think Rachel as well? I mean, you know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: obviously it's not law, but it is an indication of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: what the actual intent of the changes to the law
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: might have been back in twenty thirteen. Do you think
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: that this argument, even though it was given in sort
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: of a public forum and not in a legal court
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: kind of environment, will help the legal cases of those
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: who are fighting against some of the deleterious effects of
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: this law, which to remind everybody took the idea that
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: there was biological maleness and biological femaleness out of the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Sex Discrimination Act.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: I think that's the fact that one of the architects
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: of the changes to the Act, or at least the
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: person who was in charge of the government that passed
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: those amendments, is now starting to make comments that they like, well,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: maybe there is an a shoe. Maybe we didn't realize
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: at the time, but now clearly something is going on.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: I think the fact that she's made those comments should
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: give warning to the current labor government that they actually
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: need to look at this as opposed to doing what
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: they're doing, which is to continue to fob it off
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: and ignore women and ignore women's advocates. I think it
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: should make a difference. Whether it will, I'm not sure, so.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, Look, Rachel, we've also seen how Australia
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: seems to be so far behind the rest of the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: world on these issues. You know, we see where the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: UK has gone, France has gone to the United States
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: because yesterday the Trump administration secured a big win in
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: its Supreme Court after their rule that states can bean
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: transgender women from competing in female school and college sports.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: The Court said quite reasonably that these laws don't violate
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: various clauses of the constitutions. Rachel, would you be hopeful
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: again that, seeing you know how much our courts love
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to look at international law to try and decide what
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: did you hear that this might again be another hopeful
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: sign for a bit more common sense insanity here in Australia.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Well, lot, Firstly, I think this was a huge win
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: for women and girls in the US, and I only
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: wish it had gone a little bit further in actually
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: mandating single sex competition rather than just allowing it, because
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: you know, single sex sport exists for a reason and
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: it shouldn't be optional in relations to whether or not
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: we will have an impact here. I mean, look, James,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: We've had multiple international sporting bodies, including the Olympics, mandate
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: single sex sport. Australia continues to dig its heel and
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: dig its heels in and bear its head in the sand.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: So again, I'm not sure whether this will make a
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: difference or not. It should and the reality is our laws,
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: despite the confusion and this discrimination act, despite the culture
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: around sex and generatentity, our laws actually do have quite
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: strong protections for single sex sport, but sporting bodies are
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: too scared to implement them because of the culture, because
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: of fear of legal reprisals, and so again. And that
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: is why our government must make it abundantly clear that
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: these protections are guaranteed in law.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Rachel, you've been fighting at the call feace of these
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: issues for years now, very bravely, I might add, But
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you did say there that Australia digs its heels in
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: on these issues. What is it about Australia that you
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: can point your finger to or put a finger on
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that makes Australia cultural Australian law somehow immune to these
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: changes that are being recognized elsewhere around the globe.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: It's an excellent question, and I'm not sure I can
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: give you a clear answer, and that what I will
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: say is that those in power at the moment around
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: the country seem to be governed by ideology rather than truth,
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: rather than reality, rather than concern about the safety of
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: women and girls. And I think as long as those
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: people are making the decisions, I'm not sure we're going
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: to have much traction. Because I would have thought that
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: things like women being sexual assaulted in prison by the
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: in cimetry woman would be kind of the last final straw,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: but it hasn't been, so I'm not quite sure what
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: it's going to take.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Well, anyway, thank you for your insights and thank you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: for keeping up the fight. Rachel Walng. We will speak again,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Thank you so much for your time.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Thanks James.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Coming up, Lefties Losing It the latest from the US,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: including the communist takeover of the Democrats. Can it be stopped?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Josh Hammer is here next. Now it's time for Lefty's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and Losing It. And well, this one is pretty incredible
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and also, I gotta say pretty cringe. Check this out.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It's Australian Health Minister Mark Butler, who rumor has it
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: is the next most likely to succeed and take over
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: for Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi wants the Labor party room
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: finally gets sick of his stick. Here he is dancing
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like a trained monkey because well, I can only presume
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the social media kids in his office said, hey boss,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: this is how you connect with the younger voters. Seriously,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: what is the man doing here? If this is the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: future of democratic politics, I gotta say we're in a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: lot of trouble, let me tell you. But also here's
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: another one, another Australian parliamentarian who again might need some
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: better advice from his staffers. This one, he's not dancing,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: but you're gonna love this. It's Labor MP Andrew Lee,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: who is also the Assistant Minister for Productivity and a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: bunch of other things. Apparently, well, with everyone worrying about
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the cost of living, old Andrew has got some news
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: about supermarkets and what they charge. Minister, tell us about it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You're picking up a croissant.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: It calls the Willies. You want to make sure the
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: price doesn't feel like it's been flying in from France.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: By this price gouging laws kicking today, ensuring that our
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: big two retailers don't charge excessive prices.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: We're giving the Competition.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: Watchdog more resources to make sure Ossie shoppers.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Get a fair deal at the checkout. Look. I don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: know what is more ridiculous here, the idea that the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: government should have any say in what a croissant costs,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: or that Andrew Lee and his staffers thought to themselves, Hey,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: we need a good basic food item, you know, the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: sort of thing that the Aussie every man and Ossie
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: every woman eats every day the battler to illustrate this point,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and the best they could come up with was, hey,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: what about a plump, flaky croissant. Gosh, this is making
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: me hung anyway. Speaking of staffers, and because we are
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: an equal opportunity offender, we're gonna go leave austraight and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: go over to the US of A, where this, according
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to reports, is a staffer for the Democrat Party in
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the great state of Wisconsin.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: T would say, here, and we're going to make this
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: the modern position in the state of Aspolis.
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: And I need your colt, because we have one mark
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: to do this.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And if you didn't quite catch that, the moderate position
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: this fellow wants to state to embrace is kill your
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: local Republican. Ah, the tolerant left anyway, at least, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I think at least he and I think that's a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: he is honest about it. But speaking of being honest
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: sort of, watch what happens here when Democrat Socialists of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: America co chair Ashik Sidike is confronted with vision of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: one of his members saying, as I keep saying that
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: they're our goal is full communism.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure if all your members see that distinction though,
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: between democratic socialism and communism.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Look, let me show you an example.
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: This is National DSA political Committee member David Jenkins.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Watch this.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, our goal is liberation, our goal is communist.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: We're a diverse body of libertarian socialists, libertarian Marxist, anarchist,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: lefts communists, and other schools of fault within the sort
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: of left wing socialist movement.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: He says, our goal is communism.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: We have a big tent of all sorts of ordinary
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: people who have many different ideas about what the pathway
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: is or what the horizon is.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: A big tent. Yeah, that's a pretty big tent, all right. Anyway,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: here's a little tip for you, mate. If you're not
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: denying it, you're admitting it. Finally, do you remember back
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: when New York City Mayor Zoron Mom Donnie was sworn
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: in and he made this promise.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: warmth of collectivism.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Well, guess what. They're having a heat wave in New
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: York City and Mom Donnie is asking everyone to keep
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: their air cons set to a rather toasty seventy eight
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit or around twenty six degrees c.
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: And to every business owner, please set your thermostats to
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: seventy eight degrees to alleviate the stress on our power grid.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Well, that's certainly the warm embrace of collectivism right there.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Promise made, promise kept well over in the United States
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: see Democrat Socialists aka the Communists continue their insurgent takeover
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party. If you thought the old progressive
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: left was bonkers, you ain't seen nothing yet. Get a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: load of this one. Here Minas Kiros, who just unseated
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a twenty year moderate Democrat veteran in her primary in Colorado,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: all but ensuring that she winds up in Colorado's congressional delegation.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: We will not.
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: Wait to abolish ice and pathmatica.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: We will not wait to put an.
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: End to the politics of the past, to get big
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: money out of.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Our politics, and to.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: Reject corporate packs at a pack.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: And no, we will not wait to end the genocide
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: in Palestine.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: A pack. By the way, what she was talking about there,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: let's code for the Jews. And it always goes back
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to Palestine with these people, doesn't it. But guess what
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Democrat ILLINOI Gonter J. D. Prisker says this way, this
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: is the way of the future.
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: I'm not suggesting that I had one candidate or another
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: in any of these races. I'm just suggesting that that
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: is the recipe for winning in twenty twenty six, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: I think beyond well.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Join me now to discuss this and a whole lot
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: more is Newsweek Senior and at Large Josh Hammer. Josh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: thanks for joining me here. I am absolutely fascinated by
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the Democrat socialist takeover of the Democrat Party. As I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: said before, they are really Marxists at the core. Can
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: this takeover of the Democrats be stopped?
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: I do not think so, and in fact, I'm pretty
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: confident the answer is no, because it's been building up
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: for a very long time.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Now, am I telling you this tale?
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: This begins actually with Barack Obama's defeat of Hillbary Clinton
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: in the two thousand and eight Democratic primary. That really
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: was the moment that the radicals began to take over
• 29:33
  Speaker 11: the Democratic Party. Clinton was the establishment of the Clinton
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: family and all that it entailed. Barack Obama ushered him
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: a decisively leftist, neo Marxist approach to Democratic Party politics
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: and public policy. He was one who ushered in Obamacare,
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: was just the stepping stone towards universal healthcare. He was
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: the one who was the mentee in prior years of
• 29:54
  Speaker 11: Saul Olinsky, the inf mi Chicago community organizer, the one
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: who was mentored at one point by Bill Ayers at
• 30:00
  Speaker 11: the Weather Underground, and on and on and on. The
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: problem is that the college kids who were inspired by
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: Obama era hope and change, they're now the adults in
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: the room.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: The folks who are eighteen years old back in.
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: Two thousand and eight, they're now the ones running the party,
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: and they have moved left with the party. You look
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: at what's happening, it's not just happening in New York City.
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: About a week and a half ago, in New York City,
• 30:22
  Speaker 11: we saw Zoramam Donnie's picks in the three districts there,
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: including this absolute lunatic Daria Lisa Chevalier who's quoting the
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: Communist Manifesto.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: They won.
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: But the question up until this week was will this
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: be confined to just these far left, super dark blue
• 30:37
  Speaker 11: Soros funded sor adjacent districts, And now we know the
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: answer is no, because Colorado. I say that I used
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: to live in, by the way, Colorado once upon a time.
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: But first of all, once one time was actually red state.
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: Then it was a purple state, and then it was
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: about the most moderate blue state along with Virginia, Magicable.
• 30:52
  Speaker 11: So this is happening in Colorado, whereas some of the
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: other state state wide officials, Michael Bennett, John Hickenlooper, most
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: of the Colorado Democratic Party is not far left. But
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: this is happening now in congressional primaries in Colorado. So
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: this is a party wide phenomenon. In Los Angeles, you
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: have a Karen Bass who's now a terrible incumbent running
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: for mayor frankly as a relative centrist relative to the
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: challenger in the La City Council who's running as a
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: fall on socialist. This is happening now from sea to
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: shining sea, all across America. By the way, it's a
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: golden political opportunity for Republicans to run as the same party,
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: especially when it comes to the influx of new Latino
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: voters into the Republican fold in recent years. Because a
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: lot of these voters Venezuela AND's Cubans, they fled this
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: They fled socialism. They don't want this crab. They don't
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: want this at all. So I see a lot of
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: I see a lot of Republican strategist consultants who are
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: freaking out over the deportation of Genda, saying, oh my god,
• 31:46
  Speaker 11: Republicans are going to lose the new Hispanic votes. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: I say, no, you're not, because this is what they fled.
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: This is what they fled all along there. So the Democrats,
• 31:54
  Speaker 11: Polly could be Republican's game.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And you know, Josh, I think you're onto something there
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: because if you look at the polls, the prediction markets
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: right now, suddenly they're showing some good news for the Republicans.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: They're now in the box seat to hold the Senate.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And here's what CNN has to say, Hey, look at this.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Chance to win the Senate. The Republican chances. As you noted, John,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: the environment is getting a little bit better for Republicans.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: On May one, Republicans had a fifty one percent chance
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: to take back the Senate. Now it's a fifty nine
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: percent chance. Look, Democrats have a shot here, there are
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: seats on the table, but the fundamentals are against them.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: So Josh, my question is here are the hard left
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: politics of the DSA. These communists, you know, they go
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: fine in the primaries where they get their own people
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: have to take over and run the pre selection and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: win those primaries for their candidates. But is this poll
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: suggesting that maybe you know, once these candidates have contact
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: with the real world and the Democrat Party which is
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: going this way has contact with the wider electorate, that
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: they're not going to do well.
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: The saving grace for Republicans in the year twenty twenty
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: six is that no matter how unpopular Republicans may or
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: may not think they are, no matter how much they
• 33:08
  Speaker 11: may be fretting and sweating about the fact that inflation
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: just came in at four point two percent on a
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: monthly basis, which is a little higher than it should be,
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: no matter what they're thinking, that the silver line of
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: the good news is that Democrats are orders of magnitude
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: more unpopular if you look at the at the actual
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: national polling question, because we actually have good data on
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: this Pew Gallop. All the Roman polsters, they ask what
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: is your thumbs of, thumbs down, approval or disapproval of
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: the two major parties, And to this day Republicans have
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: a slightly higher approval rating than Democrats. And that's not
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: for Democrats trying to pin all on the Orange Man.
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: They talk incessantly to this day about Trump. All these
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: assassination attempts are not enough, and they're going to keep
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: on trying. Unfortunately, I fear to engage in political violence
• 33:49
  Speaker 11: and all these horrific third worlds, third world tactics. But
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: the Democratic Party brand is utterly in the toilet, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: it is utterly in the toilet right now, because this
• 33:57
  Speaker 11: is a party that has gone so far forward to
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: the left that they are just not recognizable. And it's
• 34:03
  Speaker 11: been building up for a very very long time. Again,
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: these past two weeks, I think I've seen the culmination
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: of sorts of this socialist takeover. But just about a
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: year and a half ago, in February twenty twenty five,
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: that was at least the first time I ember seeing
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: a major, major gallipol that showed that Democrats by about
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: a twenty five point margin, if you socialism more favorably
• 34:21
  Speaker 11: than capitalism.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: So it's been building up for a very long time.
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: This is not your father's Democratic Party, this is not
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: the Bill Clinton party of safe legal and rare and
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: abortion of free markets. The Clinton Democratic Party would be
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: positively right wing relative to to to today's Democratic Party,
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: and ultimately, again, I think that's going to Republicans saving
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: grace this fall.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, look, if you go back and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: follow find some of the old clips of Barack Obama,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: even he is would be downright Trumpian on borders if
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you've played the stuff that he said when he was
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: running for president. But you know you mentioned the Third world,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: these third world tactics, Josh, I'm absolutely fascinated by the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: way this sort of third World style has taken over
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the Democrats, and particularly the way that everything comes back.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: You know, we played this candidate from Colorado, but I've
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: played other candidates before on this show and other shows.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: They're all obsessed with Palestine. Everything comes back to Palestine.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: So how did Palestine become the motivating omnicause grievance for
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the Democrats or these young they look very white, middle
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: class educated Democrats who seem to be pushing this.
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: So, first of all, on the latter note'ra abstuly right
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: there actually was in the New York Times article this week. Frankly,
• 35:35
  Speaker 11: the New York Times surprisingly of all places publishing this,
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: showing that the demographic breakdown of the DSA, the Democrats
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: social America is overwhelmingly white.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: It is highly educated.
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: They are college grads, they are PhDs, they're people with
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: professional degrees, and they are way, way, way whiter than
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: the broader electorate. There is a paltry percentage of these
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: socialists who are actually black in his bank. They're typically
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: your year, your ultra refined, ultra overly educated, limousine liberals.
• 36:04
  Speaker 11: And because because of this they went to these universities,
• 36:06
  Speaker 11: they were indoctrinated by Wolkes and probably from an even
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: earlier age than that, and they had come to the
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: conclusion that America is really really bad and that Western
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: civilization is really really bad. In fact, sometimes the cat
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: actually just gets out of the bank. So this looted
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: take in New York City Dara Lisa Chevalier, who, if anything,
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: makes AOC Frankie look like a somewhat sane actor. Chevalier
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: when she was at Columbia University in New York City
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: as a college student, she was a co founder of
• 36:32
  Speaker 11: their CUA D Columbia University Apartheid and divest Chapter, which
• 36:36
  Speaker 11: ostensibly would just be an anti Israel pro palacy group.
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: But you actually look at their at their their statement
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: of principles, their bylaws. What they say is they're they're
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: calling for a complete eradication of Western civilization in the
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: United States.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: That's what they believe in.
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: And a lot of these other folks are now openly
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: saying that America had it coming a nine to eleven
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: Osawan bin Laden, and he had a point. So I
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: say all that because the the Israel issue, it's just
• 37:01
  Speaker 11: a proxy. It is here there an Ebruary proxy for
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: a broader effort to try to take down the West,
• 37:06
  Speaker 11: to take down America. It's the classic notion of the
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: Jewish people on the Jewish Day being the.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Canaries in the coal mine.
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: We've seen a countless times about history, and that is
• 37:14
  Speaker 11: why they're talking about it yet again here.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Their ultimate goal is not the Jews.
• 37:17
  Speaker 11: Ultimate goal are Christians and the West, and above all
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: America represents the West.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Here here absolutely perfectly, said Josh. And I'll tell you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: what you know. When the big wokeness thing on campus
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: was really flaring up ten twelve years ago, fifteen years ago,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I said, this will not stay on the university campuses.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: This is going to break loose and you're gonna have
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: a huge containment problem the Democrats do hey, just want
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to cover off Another news item or two as well.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Fox News has obtained figures from the Depropment of Homeland
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Security that suggests that ICE has made more than ten
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: thousand arrests in the last five days. Aloon. This seems
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like a big surge after we'd sort of seen things
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: go a little bit quiet on that front.
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: What can you tell us, well, I think this is
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: one of the many ways is that you're seeing the
• 38:03
  Speaker 11: administration respond to this atrocious decision by the United States
• 38:06
  Speaker 11: Supreme Court. You're seeing ICE making make a concerted effort
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: to remove more illegal alience. You're going to see a
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: greater effort to prosecute and to crack down on the
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: absolutely abominable industry known as so called birth tourism, whereby
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: you tried to lower women here for the express purpose
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: of giving birth here and thereby getting a passport for
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: one of their children. So they're currently cracking down on that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: When it comes to the DOJ as well, the administration
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: is not going to take this ruling just laying down.
• 38:34
  Speaker 11: This is an issue of Donald Trump's been talking about
• 38:36
  Speaker 11: for a very very long time. He campaigned on this
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: in twenty sixteen. He finally wrote the executive order on
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: his day one office here on the second term, back
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: on January twenty, twenty twenty five. It's a horrific loss,
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: but ultimately there really is a silver lining of sorts here,
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: which is that the actual fourteenth Amendment constitutional argument attains
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: four out of the nine votes, which means that we
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: were only one vote away from actually gaining this thing correctly.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: The omni constitutional question.
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: So Roe versus Way to our abortion pression which goes
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: about to nineteen seventy three that took forty nine years
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: to overturn in the form of the Dobbs case in
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: twenty twenty two, Roe was a seven to two decision.
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: This new case, if you want to analogize it to
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: Row versus Way, is actually a five four ninety seven
• 39:16
  Speaker 11: two stents. We're actually only one justice away overturn this.
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: I feel pretty optimistic that this is going to go
• 39:22
  Speaker 11: down as a horrifically run decision, will be overturned in
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: our lifetime, and I think that it's going to be
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: a new goal for conservatives from seed to shining Seeds
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: to overturn this decision and send into the Eshuba history.
• 39:32
  Speaker 11: But in the meantime, the administration is not going to
• 39:34
  Speaker 11: take this in down that They're going to continue to
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: enforce the law and to continue the reference to engage
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: in what.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Our borders are.
• 39:40
  Speaker 11: Tom Holman has referred to as the as the greatest
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: deportation operation in American history.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Finally, Josh, I just want to ask you quickly about
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: this other case here, And I'm a First Amendment guy,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: so I want your help sorting out how I should
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: feel about this. Here, a University of Tennessee professor who
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: celebrated Charlie Kirk's death is in line for a seven
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: figure seven after she accused the school of violating her
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: constitutional rights. When following Kirk's murder, she called Kirk a
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: disgusting psychopath and said the world was better off without
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: him in it. Now she won't be hired back, but
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: she did get this payout as a free speech guy.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Help me out here, who's in the right here?
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Well, look, I don't know the details of the exact litigation.
• 40:23
  Speaker 11: That's a very high number, to be sure, a very
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: very high number for a settlement for someone who clearly
• 40:28
  Speaker 11: has absolutely loathsome views. Charlie was a personal friend of mine,
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: and I hold people who speak like this in the
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: absolute lowest of low contempts. Listen, you have a first
• 40:38
  Speaker 11: man free speech right to speak your mind. You don't
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: have a first man free speech right to stay permanently
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: forever in a public university ten year track position. For instance,
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: if you are teaching American history and one day he
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: decided to wake up and you want to start teaching
• 40:53
  Speaker 11: that the United States was the villain in World War
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: Two and actually Hitler and the nazisb cracks, You're probably
• 40:59
  Speaker 11: not going to last very long in that job. And
• 41:00
  Speaker 11: then if you're fired that that's no longer a free
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: speech issue.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Is it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 11: We've seen this now across the country. So, for instance,
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: I live here in South Florida. There's actually a friend
• 41:09
  Speaker 11: of mine, Adam Hasner, a former major Republican leader in
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: the Florida State Legislature in Tallahassee. He's now the president
• 41:16
  Speaker 11: at FAU Florida Atlantic University, not far from me. In
• 41:18
  Speaker 11: Book ratone, he actually had a similar firing of a
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: professor who also spoke very ill of Charlie Kirk after
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: historrific assassination. So you're seeing this I don't view as
• 41:27
  Speaker 11: a free speech issue. I view this, frankly as the
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: notion here is that there are scarcy of resources. You
• 41:34
  Speaker 11: can't hire everyone, you cannot pay everyone to speak there,
• 41:36
  Speaker 11: so you necessarily have to make decisions there. That's not
• 41:38
  Speaker 11: a first man issue, that's just in the comedy of
• 41:40
  Speaker 11: resource issue. This something strikes me, frankly intuitively as utterly outrageous.
• 41:45
  Speaker 11: This woman seems like she probably has pretty good lawyers,
• 41:47
  Speaker 11: to be honestly.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she did, and she would have had to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: have some pretty good lawyers. You'll get again a pretty
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: good cut of that settlement too, Josh Hammer, Thanks so
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: much for sorting that one out for me. I think
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: that's a very good take on it. And thanks as always,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: free your time speak a sue my pleasure. Thank you
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: still come. Karl Stefanovick tells Piers Morgan that he already
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: had plans to leave nine. Sure Chloe Walker will have
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: all the details next Welcome Back. So Axed nine host
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Karl Stefanovic has revealed that he was already planning to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: leave his Today Show hosting gig at the end of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the year or so he's claimed he sat down with
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: British broadcaster Piers Morgan and confessed that he already had
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: plans to quote sail off into the sunset. How lovely.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: For more on this, let's bring in Sky News lifestyle
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: reporter Chloe Walker. Chloe Karl Stefanovic is all anybody's talking
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: about in Australian media right now. What did you make
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of his interview with Piers Morgan and his claims that oh, yeah, no,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I was going to do this all a long.
• 43:01
  Speaker 12: Yes, you're absolutely right. It is all Australia is talking
• 43:04
  Speaker 12: about right now. And in that interview with Piers Morgan,
• 43:07
  Speaker 12: Karl did say that he had told Nine that he
• 43:10
  Speaker 12: was planning to leave about two to three months ago,
• 43:12
  Speaker 12: and that Nine had said they wanted to keep him
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: a little bit longer so that they could find a
• 43:16
  Speaker 12: replacement for him. So, yeah, it was interesting for him
• 43:20
  Speaker 12: to say the conversation. He did double down on the
• 43:23
  Speaker 12: interview he did with Tommy Robinson, but he also got
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: quite emotional when he was discussing the fallout and how
• 43:28
  Speaker 12: that's impacted his wife, Jasmine and his family. Yeah, a
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: really interesting interview.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: So you know, the interesting thing about saying that this
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: was in the works and that they had wanted him
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to stay on longer. To me, this lends a little
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: bit of credence to the theory that some cynics, such
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: as possibly myself, had that the Tommy Robinson interview was
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: engineered a bit to create a controversy to get him
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: out of his contract.
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: Yes, I mean, you can argue that, I don't know.
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: I don't think so. He did say that, you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 12: this was in the works, and he did have planned
• 44:04
  Speaker 12: leave to go in the UK, So I'm not too
• 44:07
  Speaker 12: sure about that one.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: M sure fair enough, fair enough, But I mean in
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: terms of this idea that then he's going to go
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: and become this kind of podcast star in the United States. Now,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, as you know, I'm from the United States myself,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Karl Stefanovic, nobody knows who he is over there. Do
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you think that this is a realistic idea that he
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: can kind of out of nowhere, come out somewhere and
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: turn into this kind of right wing podcast bro with
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a big, kind of Joe Rogan style audience in the US.
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: Great question. I'm not too sure myself, but look, never
• 44:39
  Speaker 12: say never. He is a huge face in Australian media,
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: so you never know where it could take him.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Well, that's right, and of course we have seen his
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: ratings or the ratings of the Today Show go off
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: a cliff since he left, so possibly at nine they're
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: having a bit of reconsiderations about how this all went too.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: But there are other celebs too to talk to, not
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: just Carl, Sorry Carl, but we've also had Prince Harry
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and Meghan Markle. They have reportedly agreed to adhere to
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a set of rules laid out ahead of their coming trip,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: which had been in doubt to the United Kingdom. There
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: were reports that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: reconsidering after he was denied a request for police protection,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: but it looks likely that they will indeed bring their
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: children to meet the King. Chloe, you know, whatever you
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: think of Harry and Meghan, you got to find family
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: estrangement really sad. So I would be really happy for
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: them to make up with His Majesty with what time
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that he has left. But what more can you tell
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: us about all of this?
• 45:42
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so this trip has actually apparently been two years
• 45:46
  Speaker 12: in the making, which is a huge thing to come
• 45:48
  Speaker 12: out of this Harry Meghan are indeed going to be
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: visiting the UK from the seventh to the eleventh of July,
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: and they're going there predominantly for Harry's Invictus Games one
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: Year to Go event in Birmingham. But the King has
• 46:01
  Speaker 12: indeed offered them to stay at Buckingham Palace and one
• 46:04
  Speaker 12: of the royal residents is there and they have accepted.
• 46:07
  Speaker 12: Now these rules that they have agreed to, they're quite interesting.
• 46:12
  Speaker 12: So one of the one of the rules is that
• 46:14
  Speaker 12: they are not to film any of the private meetings
• 46:16
  Speaker 12: that they have with any of the royal family.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Isn't that so just to stop isn't that so extraordinary
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that you would have to have a rule like that for.
• 46:26
  Speaker 12: These people, right, yes, yeah, that is a rule. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: then another one is that they're not to do any
• 46:32
  Speaker 12: you know, interviews after the fact, so there will be
• 46:35
  Speaker 12: no Oprah interviews or any revelations to come from from
• 46:38
  Speaker 12: the private meetings. And then another rule is that there
• 46:42
  Speaker 12: it's not a commercial trip at all, so there'll be
• 46:44
  Speaker 12: no selling of jam and no keynote speeches from Harry
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: during this trip. So those other rules, so no shenanigans.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Chloe. You know, I'd gone into
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: this segment thinking, you know, I would love just to
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: see the family get back together. Whatever I think about
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: their politics, the fact that they have to have these
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: rules there, that just says to me, gosh, don't forget
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: what a bunch of grifters this pair is. But other
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: world news to here there is the meeting that the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Queen has had with JK. Ralling, the Harry Potter author.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: She posed for a private photo with the JK. Rolling,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the Harry Potter author. Rowling, of course, has been quite
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: controversial for some of her comments, which plenty of us
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: here at Sky think are actually common sense. So what
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: do you make of this here that the Queen posed
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: for this photo with Harry Potter author JK. Rowling. After all,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the Queen does not like controversy, The royal family doesn't
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: like political controversy. Particularly to me, this is sort of
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a bit of endorsement of rallying and says, hey, what
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: she stands for here, this biological reality of men and women.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It's just common sense.
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: I think that the Queen was simply trying to promote literature,
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: and she has been a long time added the kit
• 48:00
  Speaker 12: for that with the Queen's reading room, her charity. She
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: has also said that Harry Potter is one of her
• 48:05
  Speaker 12: favorite all time books, and of course JK Rowling is
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: the author of Harry Potter.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: So look, there has been a really divided opinion online
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: on this one. People are saying it's disappointing considering that
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: it was Pride month. They met on the thirtieth of
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: June Pride month, and other people are saying, look, there's
• 48:23
  Speaker 12: nothing behind it. Interestingly, though, Buckingham Palace has had to
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: restrict the comments on that Instagram post with the Queen
• 48:29
  Speaker 12: and JK Rowling. They don't often do that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the old tolerant left striking again. I'm sure, Hey,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I just want more for you here. American actor Will Wheaton,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: speaking of politics and celebrity, has blasted Dwayne the Rock
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Johnson over his decision to stay out of politics in
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: a post on threads. Does anybody use threads anymore? I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: don't know Whton wrote quote. So disappointing to find out
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that he is such a coward chloy. Do you think
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Dwayne might be scared to anger some of his devilocrat coworkers?
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems to be kind of brave
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: for Will Wheedton to go calling Dwayne the Rock Johnson
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: a coward.
• 49:09
  Speaker 12: Yes, I highly doubt he would be saying that to
• 49:11
  Speaker 12: the Rock space. I don't think Dwayne the Rock Johnson
• 49:16
  Speaker 12: is a coward, and I think it's perfectly fine for
• 49:18
  Speaker 12: him not to want to get involved in politics. I
• 49:22
  Speaker 12: don't think actors need to get involved in politics.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Good on him, No, good on him. And you know,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: finally a little bit of sad news. The lead singer
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of the Village People, which of course has had such
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: a roaring comeback back into popular culture with Donald Trump
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: adopting what he calls the gay National Anthem YMCA as
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: his campaign song. He's died. What more can you tell
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: us about this?
• 49:44
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it is really sad. So he passed away on Tuesday.
• 49:47
  Speaker 12: His wife announced it in a Facebook post, and he
• 49:49
  Speaker 12: was seventy four years old. His wife said that it
• 49:51
  Speaker 12: was a short but aggressive illness, and Trump has taken
• 49:54
  Speaker 12: to truth social and he's shared his condolences to his
• 49:58
  Speaker 12: family and also said that he'll be thinking of Victor
• 50:01
  Speaker 12: every time y m c a comes on. So that
• 50:04
  Speaker 12: was that was a nice thing to say.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: That's a lovely thing. Thank you so much for your time,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and thank you for joining me. Stick around because up
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: next is Newsnight.