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O's salvage series finale, but owner David Rubenstein embarrassed by the team's downturn · Birdland Territory

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Speaker 1: All the Orioles have been waiting to get some runs,
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Speaker 1: so have their fans, and they finally did today in Arlington, Texas.
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Speaker 1: After scoring eleven runs the last seven games going two
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Speaker 1: and five, Bird's broke out with ten today in Arlington,
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Speaker 1: Texas and beat the Rangers ten to five. Welcome in everybody,
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Speaker 1: another edition of Birdland Territory Steve, Tim and Bragg. Quick
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Speaker 1: viewer questions coming up very soon on Birdland Territory. So, guys,
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Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo's first multi homer Oriole game today. He was
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Speaker 1: on base five times, three HiT's two walks. Pretty good
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Speaker 1: four homers. The Oils only have five games this year
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Speaker 1: where they've hitched four and more. I'm not sure what
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Speaker 1: caused the breakout today. I'm just glad it came. What
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Speaker 1: did you guys see?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, Steve. This is it's just
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Speaker 3: kind of one of those games. Do you expect to
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Speaker 3: see a lot more of this season? I feel like
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Speaker 3: it's it's almost shocking that we have to talk about
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Speaker 3: the offense having games like this, because you just figured
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Speaker 3: this would be the type of games we'd see all year,
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Speaker 3: a lot of homers, a lot of double digit run scoring.
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Speaker 3: But it was good to see it. It's a good
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Speaker 3: time to see right before the Minnesota series. Obviously the
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Speaker 3: pitching was good enough to hopefully win this series in Texas,
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Speaker 3: but you know, you got to take the one out
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Speaker 3: of three and just kind of move forward. And Pete
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Speaker 3: kind of said it after the game, it's just we
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Speaker 3: control our own destiny. We're going to face a lot
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Speaker 3: of good teams. There's no reason to.
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Speaker 4: Get down about it all.
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Speaker 3: We obviously want to perform a little bit better on
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Speaker 3: the offensive side of things, but moving forward, they control
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Speaker 3: who they're going to play or they control their and
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Speaker 3: you just got to win ball games. And you hope
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Speaker 3: that this is kind of a precursor or an omen
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Speaker 3: cut type game that we'll get to see this a
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Speaker 3: little bit more of the offense moving forward.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, those first two games of the series really really
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Speaker 5: frustrating and ugly performances for the offense. But this was
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Speaker 5: a series. Obviously you didn't want to lose this series,
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Speaker 5: but you really couldn't afford to get swept because if
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Speaker 5: you got swept, your four games behind the Rangers. Now,
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Speaker 5: by salvaging this series finale, you're only two games out,
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Speaker 5: so you're still within arm's length of them. But give
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Speaker 5: credit to Pete Alonso, man first multi home run game
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Speaker 5: as an oriole and Pete, like a lot of guys,
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Speaker 5: has really struggled in the month of August, so to
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Speaker 5: see him really break out, great sign. To see the
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Speaker 5: bottom of the lineup have a monster game, really great sign.
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Speaker 6: Leodi Taveras had a couple of hits.
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Speaker 5: Kobe Mayo, who quietly steve we always go back to
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Speaker 5: that June twenty second date when looking at the offense.
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Speaker 5: Not a lot of offensive standouts for the Orioles since
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Speaker 5: June twenty second. Kobe Mayo, Tyler O'Neill, both of them
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Speaker 5: certainly have been standouts in that stretch, and Colton Kowser
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Speaker 5: after getting a double last night, having a multi hit
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Speaker 5: game tonight. It was a very encouraging game to see
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Speaker 5: from this offense. But now you gotta stack it, man,
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Speaker 5: can't You can't go back to what you were in
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Speaker 5: the past couple of days, especially tomorrow against Dean Kramer.
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Speaker 2: You know it's ironic, and that's stat.
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Speaker 1: We've been constantly quoting series where they scored thirteen runs
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Speaker 1: or least.
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Speaker 2: This was another one. He'll score twelve runs.
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Speaker 1: This series when you add up the first two games
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Speaker 1: and they get ten. But you feel so much better,
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Speaker 1: I think in Oriel fans leaving this series to see
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Speaker 1: the breakout and hope it can continue. We'll get into
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Speaker 1: the fact they're gonna face old friend Dean Kramer tomorrow
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Speaker 1: night in Minnesota target Field and Colton Kowser today. Here's
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Speaker 1: the interesting thing, man, It has been a minute for
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Speaker 1: the home run. He went thirty five games without a homer.
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Speaker 1: That goes to the Rogers Stadium un till he connected today.
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Speaker 2: But when he hits it, they stay hit.
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Speaker 1: According to MLB dot Com, this blast today by Cawser
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Speaker 1: was his third longest homer, four hundred and forty one
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Speaker 1: feet of the forty nine he's hit in his career,
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Speaker 1: the fifthies hit this year for twenty four plus. I
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Speaker 1: just wish Brad he could make more consistent contact. I
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Speaker 1: know he does too. Yeah, you never end that search
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Speaker 1: for that, It'll be ongoing. But he shows these glimpses
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Speaker 1: of the pop man, and it's prodigious when he does Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's what I mean oil fans have
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Speaker 3: seen since he's been up in the big league team,
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Speaker 3: is that this power is there. It's just about making
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Speaker 3: more consistent contact. And like you said, he wants to
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Speaker 3: do that more consistently, but it's really hard to kind
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Speaker 3: of do that with your swing. And I think he's
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Speaker 3: doing the best he can with his swing right now
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Speaker 3: and trying to figure some things out, and he's made
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Speaker 3: some adjustments throughout the year. But man, you're right, you
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Speaker 3: would just love to see a little bit more contact
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Speaker 3: because when he hits it, those balls shoot in the
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Speaker 3: gap over the fence in a heartbeat, and it's really
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Speaker 3: nice to see when he does it. When he stays
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Speaker 3: down through the baseball. Today he got to cut her
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Speaker 3: out over the plate and gosh, when he hits it,
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Speaker 3: it's I feel like every single one of his home
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Speaker 3: runs is four hundred feet plus anytime he makes that
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Speaker 3: solid contact. So that's definitely one of the things you'd
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Speaker 3: like to see here more. And I mean, I just
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Speaker 3: I have to believe he's going to get more consistent
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Speaker 3: at bats and that can only help him this season.
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Speaker 3: And I think when he starts facing lefties more consistently,
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Speaker 3: which was kind of nice today that Rocker got taken
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Speaker 3: out of that game so early because he got the
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Speaker 3: face of the lefty Montgomery when he came in. And
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Speaker 3: I think when you're able to face same same arm
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Speaker 3: side guys, I really think it helps your confidence more
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Speaker 3: than anything else. And then obviously recognizing more pitches from
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Speaker 3: the left side. But I think that was a kind
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Speaker 3: of a good thing for him to get to some
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Speaker 3: of the at bats against lefties and not get taken
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Speaker 3: out right away like they've done most of the season.
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Speaker 3: But you're right, Steve, if he could just find a
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Speaker 3: way to make a little bit more contact, we'd be
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Speaker 3: seeing fifteen plus twenty plus home run season from him
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Speaker 3: every single season.
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Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, you guys use the word that
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Speaker 5: cansistency with Colton Kowser, it's just throughout his first three
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Speaker 5: full big league seasons, even going back to his rookie
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Speaker 5: year in twenty twenty four, when he finished second in
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Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year voting. He's such a streaky player, guys.
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Speaker 5: And you can even look at this year. I believe
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Speaker 5: it was his month of May get NOPs nearly nine hundred.
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Speaker 5: Like you're looking for anyone right now in this Orioles
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Speaker 5: lineup to go on a hot streak. And I get it,
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Speaker 5: it's just two games, but you're hoping the double last night,
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Speaker 5: the multi hit games that the hit against the left
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Speaker 5: handed pitcher today that you reference Brad. If Kowser can
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Speaker 5: go on one of his patented Keeters man like that,
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Speaker 5: that would be a much, much, much needed development for
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Speaker 5: this offense which has been lacking that punch.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, coming into today had been five for his last
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Speaker 1: twenty six with twelve strikeouts, So it looked like those
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Speaker 1: lean days. I can see why this kid was a
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Speaker 1: fifth pick in the draft. The tools when they're on
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Speaker 1: are last. The power, he's got a good arm, he's
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Speaker 1: a plus runner. He can go first to third, second
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Speaker 1: to home, he can steal your bag. It's just a
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Speaker 1: lot he can do. And for me, when they're a
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Speaker 1: young player with those tantalizing skills, you don't give up
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Speaker 1: on that.
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Speaker 2: And the aros clearly or not.
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Speaker 1: I think some fans are down on them, understandably so,
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Speaker 1: but the organization made him the one five pick for
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Speaker 1: a reason.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like you said, see those tools, when they're flashed,
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Speaker 3: they're loud, and that's the reason why you get taken
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Speaker 3: so high in the draft.
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Speaker 4: And the other part of it also too, is when
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Speaker 4: he hits home runs, it just feels like.
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Speaker 3: A different reaction in the dugout than other guys on
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Speaker 3: the team. You can tell that guys really care about
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Speaker 3: cold and he cares about other guys, and it shows
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Speaker 3: when he has success. There's just a different celebration in
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Speaker 3: the dugout. And I love seeing that as being a
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Speaker 3: former player, just kind of guys that really teammates that
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Speaker 3: guys want to see do well, and he is definitely that.
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Speaker 4: And I feel like like you're referencing that hot streak.
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Speaker 3: If he's able to get hot, he could supplement this
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Speaker 3: all for a week, two week, three weeks at a time.
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Speaker 3: And I mean, what better time than for it to
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Speaker 3: happen right now when they really really need somebody to
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Speaker 3: just kind of step up, and I.
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Speaker 5: Think something that we talked a lot about with Blaze Alexander,
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Speaker 5: and there was always that debate, Okay, should you leave,
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Speaker 5: you know, bump him up in the lineup, do you
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Speaker 5: tinker with him at leadoff? But Craig Albernas was steadfast
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Speaker 5: in the fact, hey you bat him eight or nine.
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Speaker 5: This is someone that's really going to turn the lineup over.
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Speaker 5: And that's what Colden Cowser can do in this opportunity
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Speaker 5: now because he's going to be batting in the bottom
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Speaker 5: third of the lineup. He's someone with legit thump and
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Speaker 5: if he can just get into this hot streak again,
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Speaker 5: that can help turn the lineup over. And that's something
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Speaker 5: that they've sorely missed since Blaze Alexander went down with
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Speaker 5: that injury.
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Speaker 2: So the Oils get this victory.
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Speaker 1: They are fifty seven and sixty one, they ended a
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Speaker 1: three game losing streak and now it's onto Minnesota and
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Speaker 1: the tim as you mentioned a big difference in the
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Speaker 1: swing here he went. It started this series one back
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Speaker 1: of the wild Card would have been four with a loss.
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Speaker 1: One is two with a win, so that's more palatable
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Speaker 1: and every time you want to throw the dirt on it,
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Speaker 1: the Orioles do enough to stay in it, and they
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Speaker 1: did it again today. Let's talk about this quote that
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Speaker 1: we saw earlier this week, which was quite interesting. I
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Speaker 1: thought the owner of the Orioles, David Rubinstein, was speaking
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Speaker 1: at American University Monday night, and one of the many
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Speaker 1: quotes he made, and I believe he's promoting his book here,
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Speaker 1: we tripled salaries, but felt the last place. It's frustrating.
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Speaker 1: I'm really embarrassed about it, but I'm trying to do
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Speaker 1: what I.
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Speaker 2: Can to fix it.
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Speaker 1: Two quick notes, they haven't actually tripled salaries, haven't quite
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Speaker 1: gone that far close close, and they're not in the
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Speaker 1: last place close. So those two are a little off.
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Speaker 1: But I get the point. And I'm gonna say what
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Speaker 1: I had to say on this. I want to hear
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Speaker 1: your guys' thoughts on the Rubinstein quote.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's definitely interesting, to say the least. I
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Speaker 3: think it's It shows this frustration, and I think he's
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Speaker 3: used to somebody that's being so successful in his previous career.
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Speaker 3: You figure you throw some money at the problem. Him
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Speaker 3: being a money guy. It kind of it goes the
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Speaker 3: other way and things just get better and all that
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Speaker 3: kind of stuff. And I think it's just kind of
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Speaker 3: realizing that baseball isn't a you know, you throw three
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Speaker 3: times the amount of money or whatever the amount is
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Speaker 3: towards the problem, it doesn't necessarily fix it. So I
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Speaker 3: think that kind of brings him back to maybe a
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Speaker 3: new process they go through where maybe he's a little
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Speaker 3: bit more involved with Michaelias or has a little bit
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Speaker 3: more of a say on what goes on or what
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Speaker 3: they need to add. And I just think he's learning
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Speaker 3: the game of baseball, which it's a it's a tricky thing.
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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to point to the Dodgers, where all they
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Speaker 3: had the highest salary but invite and on the other
10:45
Speaker 3: end of the spectrum is the Mets. They put all
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Speaker 3: this money and look at them. They're in the last
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Speaker 3: place in the East. So it's it's just baseball is
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Speaker 3: a fickle, fickle beast. And I think it's I think
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Speaker 3: he's just maybe understanding the business side of the things,
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Speaker 3: and I hope it doesn't discourage him from putting more
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Speaker 3: money towards his team, because the fans really deserve that,
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Speaker 3: and I think he wants to have a winner. I
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Speaker 3: think in his quot he mentions he hopes when his
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Speaker 3: obituary is done at the end of his life, he
11:07
Speaker 3: wants to have World Series winner on there, not just
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Speaker 3: you know, from his previous business ventures. But I just
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Speaker 3: hope that he really just maybe goes about the process
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Speaker 3: differently and doesn't just say I'm not going to put
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Speaker 3: any more money towards this team, which I don't think
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Speaker 3: that will be the case.
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Speaker 5: I'll say this, I'm glad he said it. I want
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Speaker 5: my owner to say that, you know. And look, I
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Speaker 5: think the fan base got upset at David Rubinstein from
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Speaker 5: his comments going back to Kyle Bradish's contract extension press
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Speaker 5: conference where he said that he couldn't be more pleased
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Speaker 5: with Michael Ias.
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Speaker 6: Now, I think two things can be true here.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 5: If you were expecting the owner to take a shot
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Speaker 5: at Michael Olias when he's within arm's length of him
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Speaker 5: at the podium, I just think you're sadly mistaken.
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Speaker 6: Now, do I think maybe it went a little too
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Speaker 6: above and.
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Speaker 5: Beyond heaping praise? I can I can grant you that
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Speaker 5: as well. But look, there's no denying that these past
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Speaker 5: couple of years, think about it, from David Rubinstein's perspective,
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Speaker 5: and maybe this is somewhat disillusion but maybe not. Guys,
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Speaker 5: when he bought the team and he was introduced as
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Speaker 5: owner and Steve, I know you were there.
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Speaker 2: I was there.
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Speaker 6: It was opening day twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 5: Gosh, that couldn't have been a more perfect time to
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Speaker 5: buy this franchise, right because this team was ascending. They're
12:32
Speaker 5: coming off a one hundred and one win season in
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. They have all these hot young players.
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Speaker 5: They have no payroll because all of these guys are
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Speaker 5: under club control. Oh and by the way, you get
12:44
Speaker 5: six hundred million dollars to fix up Camden Yards, which
12:47
Speaker 5: is already a Crown Droll stadium. So to go backwards,
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Speaker 5: you know, since acquiring the Orioles in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 5: it is embarrassing.
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Speaker 6: It is It is tough. There's no way around that.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 5: The Orioles went in with playoff expectations in twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 6: They fell short.
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Speaker 5: They fired Brandon Hyde prior to Memorial Day in twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty five.
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Speaker 6: Brandon High was the manager of the Year in twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty three.
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Speaker 5: He didn't even make two full seasons after that and
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Speaker 5: to now selling again.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's upsetting.
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Speaker 5: And I think if the owner of the team that
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Speaker 5: you root for, you want them to want to win,
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Speaker 5: you want them to take ownership over the product. And
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Speaker 5: I think it's refreshing that he said that, quite frankly.
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Speaker 4: For me.
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Speaker 2: Here's my thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Is he embarrassed with his ownership performance, or is he
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Speaker 1: embarrassed with the front office, or is he embarrassed with
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Speaker 1: the clubhouse or is he embarrassed with all three? That's
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Speaker 1: what I don't know when I read that quote, because
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Speaker 1: if he's embarrass by Michael Lias and the players, I
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Speaker 1: question him publicly saying that the owner of the team, you.
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Speaker 7: Guys have let me down. I spent all the money,
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Speaker 7: I did my job, and look what you're doing. So
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Speaker 7: I think that will be that quote will be read
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Speaker 7: very differently.
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Speaker 1: In different circles. Yeah, and so that's what the first
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Speaker 1: thought I had. The second thought I had was he
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Speaker 1: skipped a step. This guy's been saying everything's rosy, and
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Speaker 1: now you're embarrassed.
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Speaker 4: From zero to sixty pretty fast.
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Speaker 1: And here's the third thing I think, as I'm being
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Speaker 1: critical of the owner of the Orioles, I wish he
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Speaker 1: would make those comments to Oriole media that we wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have to pull it out of an appearance in American University.
14:47
Speaker 1: And as a media guy, I selfishly wish the owner
14:49
Speaker 1: of the Orioles would talk maybe twice a year spring training,
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Speaker 1: gather all the guys talk and the gals end of
14:57
Speaker 1: year or mid what however you want to handle it
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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and it doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to be with Elias next year, why can't the owner
15:04
Speaker 1: sit up there by himself and take it on from
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Speaker 1: Baltimore cameras and reporters. And if you if you only
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Speaker 1: have to do that twice a year, you're getting off
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Speaker 1: pretty good because players and coaches and managers have to
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Speaker 1: do it every day of the year. So that's what
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Speaker 1: I wish, But I'd like you, Tim, I agree it's
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Speaker 1: okay to be critical. Their performance has been poor, embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time calling the team I love embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: That's just me as a fan. I have fans tell
15:31
Speaker 1: me that every day, and I love Towson University. I
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Speaker 1: would never publicly say Towson University basketball embarrass me today.
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Speaker 2: I can't have it in me to do that.
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Speaker 1: I might say it to my friend at the bar,
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Speaker 1: or I might say it on the phone to someone
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Speaker 1: I'm close with about Towson Man, I was embarrassing loss
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Speaker 1: today and so and so, but I would I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: say it about the art.
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Speaker 2: That's just me.
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Speaker 1: But he's the owner and he can own and sell,
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Speaker 1: even buy all this twenty times over. So it was
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Speaker 1: your's interesting. I'm not quite sure how to read all
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Speaker 1: this now. I don't know if maybe you guys should
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Speaker 1: disagree with this. I don't think it will have much
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Speaker 1: impact on the One Lost record, but we'll see how
16:14
Speaker 1: that plays out too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're saying see, but I think it's
16:19
Speaker 3: it's hard to take like a little snippet quote and
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Speaker 3: like what does that like? What is that associated too?
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's like direct. It's hard to know
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Speaker 3: who it's directed at. And I don't know, like, I
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Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna affect the players, like if they
16:31
Speaker 3: saw the quote, I can't imagine them being like offended
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Speaker 3: by the owner saying something like that. It's just I
16:38
Speaker 3: don't know. It's a weird time for it to come out,
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Speaker 3: especially after the trade deadline and all this. It has
16:43
Speaker 3: just gone down, maybe you know, like it's just kind
16:45
Speaker 3: of all all these emotions and everything are being riled
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Speaker 3: up after this last week, and it's just like, I
16:52
Speaker 3: don't know. I guess the only way I can. It's
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Speaker 3: kind of weird timing. I guess it's just.
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Speaker 4: Hard to know.
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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna have more of an understanding after
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Speaker 3: this whole offseasons figured out, with the lockout and everything
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Speaker 3: and where they're going to go with this team directionally,
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Speaker 3: and I just think maybe we'll have more of an
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Speaker 3: understanding of what he actually meant by that. Maybe that's
17:08
Speaker 3: the only thing I can think of right now at
17:10
Speaker 3: this point.
17:11
Speaker 6: And Steve, I think he made so many great points.
17:14
Speaker 5: But one of those things that stuck out to me
17:17
Speaker 5: that I agree wholeheartedly with I think David Rubinstein one
17:22
Speaker 5: way or another, and that this is assuming the team
17:25
Speaker 5: does not make the playoffs. If they don't make the playoffs,
17:28
Speaker 5: David Rubinstein needs to talk one way or another, because
17:33
Speaker 5: if Michaelias is here, he needs to be up there
17:37
Speaker 5: by himself. Explain your decision, why do you believe that
17:40
Speaker 5: he is the right man to lead you out of this?
17:43
Speaker 5: Or if mich Elias ends up losing his job. Then
17:47
Speaker 5: the owner needs to talk either way. David Rubinstein, if
17:52
Speaker 5: this team falls short of playing games in October, needs
17:56
Speaker 5: to take questions from the Baltimore media in a press
17:59
Speaker 5: con setting, not with players, not not with Mike there,
18:03
Speaker 5: not with any of that. I think it needs to happen.
18:06
Speaker 5: And you know, even going back to the Kyle bradish
18:09
Speaker 5: uh presser and look, it was a question that need
18:13
Speaker 5: to be needed to be asked, but again it's still
18:16
Speaker 5: a weird forum to do it because you don't necessarily
18:19
Speaker 5: want to take it away from Kyle bradish and the
18:23
Speaker 5: moment is about him and not about Mike. But to
18:27
Speaker 5: your point, Steve, we don't know when we're gonna hear
18:29
Speaker 5: from Rubinstein again, so it certainly was a valid question
18:33
Speaker 5: to ask. It just kind of puts the media in
18:36
Speaker 5: a little bit of a tough spot.
18:37
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.
18:39
Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans are going to read
18:40
Speaker 1: that quote as that was directed to Michael Elias, But
18:44
Speaker 1: I don't think it was. I think everything everything, He's
18:50
Speaker 1: not single point pointing any.
18:52
Speaker 2: Any aspect out.
18:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he actually did mean I'm embarrassed you know
18:56
Speaker 1: that we we collected, we have done, have.
18:59
Speaker 2: Done this and.
19:02
Speaker 1: It's just hard to read into that quote. But he
19:06
Speaker 1: you know, it's certainly different than what we've been hearing
19:08
Speaker 1: him say to this point.
19:12
Speaker 2: So let's make an abrupt.
19:14
Speaker 1: Shift here, prospects nice who've been here three days rather
19:20
Speaker 1: than you know, the whole season we've been touching on.
19:24
Speaker 1: And uh, this kid Anthony Ija said he threw a
19:26
Speaker 1: good game last night. I was watching at on the
19:29
Speaker 1: internet de Bay Chesapeake Bayseks broadcast Andre mcgaro and his guys.
19:34
Speaker 2: Uh at double A.
19:36
Speaker 1: I answered, last night two runs over five innings, he
19:38
Speaker 1: fanned nine. He showed mid nineties. He showed me really
19:42
Speaker 1: plus breaking pitches. And let's take a look here, and Brad,
19:45
Speaker 1: you can give a few thoughts if you like. He Yeah,
19:49
Speaker 1: let's find some highlights on this kid who who throw
19:52
Speaker 1: showed three plus pitches last night.
19:55
Speaker 2: In that game.
19:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean watching these highlights, you just show us
19:58
Speaker 3: right for the show. It's it's a good fact, you know,
20:00
Speaker 3: like you hear about his breaking balls and everything. But
20:03
Speaker 3: obviously as it started, you have to throw fastball. So
20:05
Speaker 3: frowed a good one there and then these two breaking
20:07
Speaker 3: balls he throws. These next two clips, I mean they
20:10
Speaker 3: are plus plus breaking balls. You can just tell by
20:13
Speaker 3: the swings the guys are taking. You can tell by
20:15
Speaker 3: the movement. That doesn't matter if it's Double A, Triple A,
20:17
Speaker 3: big league. Those are swinging miss pitches. Obviously the big
20:21
Speaker 3: league level maybe have to, you know, tinker around the
20:24
Speaker 3: zone a little bit more than where they're at. But
20:26
Speaker 3: I mean those are quality, quality breaking balls, and that's
20:29
Speaker 3: that's what you want to see with the guy you
20:30
Speaker 3: just traded, you know, the face of the franchise for.
20:33
Speaker 4: That's the kind of stuff you're looking to see.
20:35
Speaker 3: And impressive in those three clips, I know, little snippets there,
20:39
Speaker 3: but we're gonna get see him a little bit more
20:40
Speaker 3: as the season moves along. And Ben McDonald raved about
20:43
Speaker 3: him on the broadcast again today. I've heard him before
20:47
Speaker 3: say it, but he's just saying he thinks there's a
20:48
Speaker 3: shot this guy could break with the team next year.
20:50
Speaker 3: He's that polished and he feels like he's that close.
20:53
Speaker 3: So it's it won't be a matter of time. I
20:56
Speaker 3: feel like before he might be gets a crack at
20:57
Speaker 3: Triple A and just see where he's kind of at
21:00
Speaker 3: on that level standpoint. But I mean, it's a plus
21:03
Speaker 3: plus breaking ball stuff. Like McDonald had said before, breaking
21:07
Speaker 3: balls are Bratish type breaking balls, and with those clips there,
21:10
Speaker 3: you can tell that's a high praise to say, especially
21:13
Speaker 3: with Oiel fans talking about it. But it lives up
21:16
Speaker 3: to the praise right there in those cups three show.
21:20
Speaker 1: As I watched last night, that's what I thought. Bradish light.
21:23
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's gonna be Kyle Bradish. Don't
21:25
Speaker 1: get carried away here. I'm just saying his pitch ability
21:29
Speaker 1: was similar and those breaking balls were really something last night.
21:32
Speaker 1: He's got a one forty seven ERA. This year, he's
21:35
Speaker 1: thrown seventeen times and sixteen he's allowed two runs or less.
21:40
Speaker 1: So I mean, the guy's just been stellar. Looks like
21:42
Speaker 1: he might even get a chance to bump the triple A.
21:44
Speaker 1: Anthony Jyinson meanwhile, or excuse me not iinsen Kye Kyson
21:50
Speaker 1: Witherspoon meanwhile, was pitching last night for Frederick. Gave up
21:53
Speaker 1: one unner and running four and a third. I watched
21:56
Speaker 1: a little bit of this. He got bailed out, he
21:58
Speaker 1: left with the bases loaded in the fifth. Brighten Sloan
22:00
Speaker 1: got out of it to keep this pitching line preserved.
22:04
Speaker 1: So that was pretty good. This Andy AzID Car continues
22:07
Speaker 1: to hit it, Frederick. He's now ten for twenty four
22:10
Speaker 1: in his first five games with the Keys, with six
22:12
Speaker 1: extra bay sits and eight RBIs. So at least from
22:16
Speaker 1: that standpoint, if these kids were one for twenty and
22:20
Speaker 1: Ansen gave up six runs, I mean there was some
22:23
Speaker 1: pressure on them when you're traded for Adlie.
22:25
Speaker 4: Right, oh yeah, yeah, big time.
22:27
Speaker 3: And I think when you get traded from your first
22:30
Speaker 3: organization over to the new one, you want to make
22:32
Speaker 3: a good impression. So there's even that added pressure on themselves,
22:35
Speaker 3: let alone what all the fans are thinking. You have
22:37
Speaker 3: that added pressure on yourself of like, I want to
22:39
Speaker 3: show these guys that you know, I can do what
22:41
Speaker 3: I can do, and for them to go out and
22:43
Speaker 3: you know, hold it together and put up decent numbers
22:45
Speaker 3: in their first outing in the new organization after a
22:48
Speaker 3: whirlwind of a week is encouraging stuff.
22:51
Speaker 4: And hopefully they just continue to get more comfortable.
22:53
Speaker 3: And really carve out a niche for them in this
22:56
Speaker 3: organization moving forward and up through the levels.
22:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, talking him out the other day.
23:01
Speaker 5: Just the pressure that's on that when you trade away
23:04
Speaker 5: an Adley Rutchman. All fans are going to look at
23:07
Speaker 5: their box score every single time that they are playing.
23:10
Speaker 5: And right now there's about a month a little over
23:13
Speaker 5: a month remaining in the minor league season. So if
23:15
Speaker 5: you're that bunch shit, you want to just continue to
23:18
Speaker 5: finish this season strong and head into twenty twenty seven
23:21
Speaker 5: on a high.
23:23
Speaker 1: When that kid took the man last night at Bowie,
23:25
Speaker 1: all I could think of is he gives up a
23:27
Speaker 1: sixth spot. There's going to be an avalanche criticism of
23:30
Speaker 1: the trade, and you never put it on one start.
23:33
Speaker 1: But it's great terrible. But if it had been terrible, man,
23:37
Speaker 1: they would have been rough on that kid.
23:38
Speaker 2: But he threw. He threw a great game.
23:40
Speaker 1: Michael Ferret today pitched Triple A Norfolk his first game
23:43
Speaker 1: against Buffalo. Two runs in four and two thirds. And
23:46
Speaker 1: here's why they say he's close to ready. His first
23:49
Speaker 1: three Triple A games for Durham, his VR was ten.
23:52
Speaker 1: He had a first round knockout in one of those games,
23:55
Speaker 1: but in his last seven Triple A starts counting today,
23:58
Speaker 1: his ZRA is three point zero three.
24:00
Speaker 2: So Forret's a pitcher on a roll with triple A.
24:03
Speaker 1: I would not surprise me at all if we see
24:06
Speaker 1: him in Baltimore before the year is out.
24:09
Speaker 2: A fourteenth round draft.
24:10
Speaker 1: Pick out of Juco by the Oriols a couple of
24:13
Speaker 1: years ago now knocking on the door. So oriol pitching
24:16
Speaker 1: development really is shining now and they're just loaded with
24:20
Speaker 1: these pitching prospects, which I think we're gonna see it's
24:23
Speaker 1: going to serve his organization so well over the next
24:26
Speaker 1: few years.
24:27
Speaker 2: But a lot to play out.
24:29
Speaker 1: We got a few minutes ago in this show, we'll
24:32
Speaker 1: transition on. We'll talk about Dean Kramer. He'll be facing
24:35
Speaker 1: the Oriols tomorrow night. That's next on Birdland Territory.
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Speaker 1: So let's see if the Oil offense can build on
25:00
Speaker 1: the big game on Sunday and Brad, what's it gonna
25:03
Speaker 1: be like you think for Dean Kramer tomorrow?
25:06
Speaker 3: Uh?
25:06
Speaker 1: He he had a really good run on the Orioles
25:08
Speaker 1: watch coming over in the Many trade. Now he's pitching
25:12
Speaker 1: against the Orioles and against one of his good friends,
25:15
Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers, tomorrow night at Target Field.
25:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:19
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be it's gonna be fun, it's
25:20
Speaker 3: gonna be emotional, it's gonna be Dean's gonna want to
25:23
Speaker 3: stick it to the Oriols a little bit.
25:24
Speaker 4: I think it's as much as everybody wants to say.
25:27
Speaker 3: When you get traded away from a team that you
25:29
Speaker 3: know just doesn't see you've fit anymore, you want to
25:32
Speaker 3: prove it to him.
25:33
Speaker 4: And not many guys get a chance this quick to
25:35
Speaker 4: do it.
25:36
Speaker 3: So, h, Dean's gonna come out tomorrow and yes it's
25:38
Speaker 3: his good friends, and yes it's his old organization, and
25:41
Speaker 3: he had to.
25:41
Speaker 4: He had a really nice I saw tweet out.
25:43
Speaker 3: I appreciate, like appreciating the fans and the organization for
25:46
Speaker 3: giving him a shot and everything, but uh, this is
25:48
Speaker 3: something he's gonna want to go out and he's going
25:50
Speaker 3: to prove that you guys messed up.
25:51
Speaker 4: I'd let me go.
25:52
Speaker 3: It's it's human nature in sports. You're always looking for
25:56
Speaker 3: an edge, You're looking for something to kind of motivate
25:58
Speaker 3: you even extra. And he he's gonna have that tomorrow,
26:00
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out throwing
26:03
Speaker 3: a little bit harder, having a little bit nastier stuff
26:05
Speaker 3: than he than he had before. But the game will
26:07
Speaker 3: settle in and then uh, it's gonna be right back
26:09
Speaker 3: to business. But the first couple of things, I wouldn't
26:11
Speaker 3: be surprised to see him coming out blunt guns blazing tomorrow.
26:16
Speaker 6: What was going for you, Brian?
26:17
Speaker 5: Like you know if you pitched against the Padres when
26:20
Speaker 5: you were with the O's or when you pitched against
26:23
Speaker 5: the O's after they traded you in eighteen, Like, what
26:26
Speaker 5: was it like?
26:26
Speaker 6: You know that that first time?
26:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, the uh, the Padres was kind of the first
26:31
Speaker 3: one that I had the chance to face, and it
26:33
Speaker 3: was you wanted they still had the same manager, and
26:35
Speaker 3: it was you want to go out there and be like,
26:37
Speaker 3: you guys messed up. It's it's like I said, it's
26:39
Speaker 3: kind of human nature in sports, and you know that
26:42
Speaker 3: the uh, there was a lot of development I had
26:44
Speaker 3: to do once I left San Diego.
26:46
Speaker 4: It was kind of like getting out of college for
26:48
Speaker 4: an instance.
26:48
Speaker 3: You know, like you're so comfortable, you you know everybody,
26:51
Speaker 3: but when you go somewhere else, it's kind of like
26:53
Speaker 3: it's kind of time to grow up and it's you're
26:55
Speaker 3: getting a little bit older. But when I faced him,
26:57
Speaker 3: I didn't forget it, and I want to go out
26:59
Speaker 3: there and just you know my old buddies that you know,
27:01
Speaker 3: they they there was some more left in the tank
27:03
Speaker 3: that we just weren't able to like unleash when I
27:06
Speaker 3: was in San Diego. So it was there's gonna be
27:08
Speaker 3: definitely some of that for Dean tomorrow. That this is
27:11
Speaker 3: so new that I don't know how much could have
27:13
Speaker 3: built up over that time. I had a few years
27:15
Speaker 3: before I faced the Padres, so it's gonna be a
27:17
Speaker 3: little different for him.
27:18
Speaker 4: That's that's a quick turnaround there.
27:20
Speaker 5: And it's funny that the Olds are in this crazy
27:22
Speaker 5: stretch where it was Grayson Rodriguez last week, it's Dean
27:26
Speaker 5: Kramer tomorrow. The Oods played two series against the Raise upcoming,
27:31
Speaker 5: so Tyler Wells, you know, he's gonna get a crack
27:33
Speaker 5: or maybe multiple cracks at the Orioles. So all of
27:36
Speaker 5: this within a couple of weeks span for the birth.
27:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's kind of one of those things
27:40
Speaker 3: when you trade in division, you know, it's or Interleague.
27:44
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen quicker than you expect. I mean, this
27:46
Speaker 3: is way quicker than most of these guys probably would
27:48
Speaker 3: have expected. But I think that's part of the thing
27:50
Speaker 3: when you when you trade in division, they're gonna do
27:53
Speaker 3: they play the Red Sox again too, because.
27:54
Speaker 4: They'll see sometime here soon.
27:56
Speaker 3: And so it happens quick when it's in division. With
27:59
Speaker 3: the Rays, especially those guys Brian Baker, I'm sure he remembers.
28:03
Speaker 3: He's a little bit more fired up anytime he faces
28:05
Speaker 3: the O's just because he got traded over to the
28:07
Speaker 3: Rays last year.
28:08
Speaker 4: So we'll have a couple guys waiting to face them
28:11
Speaker 4: here coming up.
28:11
Speaker 3: But when you're the Oriols, you know everything these guys do,
28:14
Speaker 3: so that that's the advantage when it comes to the
28:16
Speaker 3: Oriole side of things.
28:17
Speaker 5: I was about to say, like Dean Tomorrow, is that
28:21
Speaker 5: advantage Orioles advantage?
28:22
Speaker 6: Dean, how do you see it?
28:24
Speaker 3: I would I mean, I'd have to imagine it's advantage Oriols.
28:27
Speaker 3: But then again, again, he knows all these guys, he
28:30
Speaker 3: knows he's watched these guys a million times in the dugout.
28:32
Speaker 3: But I just feel like with the analytics side of things.
28:35
Speaker 3: You sit in the side and you see how guys hit,
28:37
Speaker 3: but it's kind of hard, like you're always looking up
28:39
Speaker 3: the scoreboard, what did that guy throw?
28:40
Speaker 4: What was that pitch?
28:41
Speaker 3: And you kind of like get somewhat of a game plan,
28:44
Speaker 3: But when you're facing that picture, it's everything is right
28:47
Speaker 3: there in your face. And these guys probably knew with
28:48
Speaker 3: Dean throw before he even got traded over. So I
28:51
Speaker 3: feel like it's advantage oriols, but I don't know. I've
28:54
Speaker 3: been wrong before, so we'll see tomorrow when they face them.
28:58
Speaker 1: I'm not much of a believer crazy fears, but here's
29:00
Speaker 1: a crazy one and it's come come out from parts
29:03
Speaker 1: of Berdland. So that a game about a week or
29:05
Speaker 1: two ago, Kramer throws to first, did you see the ball?
29:09
Speaker 1: He's trying to say that Alonzo and Pete's like looking
29:12
Speaker 1: at the dug guy, what's he talking about? And so
29:14
Speaker 1: I saw miscommunication. Some fans saw more than that, and
29:19
Speaker 1: then they did. Then there there next leap twas Hey.
29:23
Speaker 1: A couple of days later, he's traded. It was not
29:25
Speaker 1: much ado about nothing.
29:28
Speaker 5: Go ahead, tim oh, No, I was gonna say, it's
29:31
Speaker 5: much ado about nothing. I I I just think it
29:35
Speaker 5: was a weird exchange. But I think that was just
29:38
Speaker 5: Dean being Dean. Now, if we want to go back
29:40
Speaker 5: to last year, his exchange with Samuel Bissio coming off
29:44
Speaker 5: the mound was a little odd to me, but I
29:47
Speaker 5: think the exchange with Pete Alonzo was much ado about nothing.
29:50
Speaker 5: I think he was just genuinely asking him, hey, can
29:53
Speaker 5: you see you know it is the light getting in
29:55
Speaker 5: your eyes.
29:56
Speaker 6: I just think it was, you know, a legitimate exchange.
30:00
Speaker 2: Right. There are some fears, I'm telling you, man.
30:07
Speaker 1: On your Twitter, and man, you could see all kinds
30:09
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff.
30:12
Speaker 2: Guys, before we start coughing again, I think we you
30:14
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