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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.
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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.
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Speaker 2: The turn Around addition, as the Bengals look to bounce
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Speaker 2: back from a Week one loss to New England as
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Speaker 2: they head to Kansas City to take.
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Speaker 3: On the Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: Coming up by one on one conversation with Bond Bell,
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Speaker 2: who made one of the biggest plays in team history
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Speaker 2: at Arrowhead Stadium. Jim Nantz will be in the booth
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Speaker 2: for CBS and has an interesting comparison between Joe Burrow
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Speaker 2: and a legendary golfer. And in our nother faux segment,
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Speaker 2: we get an in depth look at the Chiefs from
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Speaker 2: the Hall of Famer. In our broadcasting booth, the Greater
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Society of Professional Journalism welcomes a new Hall of
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Speaker 2: Fame class on Monday, and it features nine people who
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Speaker 2: have covered sports in the area, including our pregame, halftime
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Speaker 2: in postgame host on the Bengals Radio Network, Wayne Box. Miller.
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Speaker 2: Box has done it all over the years, from writing
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Speaker 2: books to hosting a daily radio show with former Bengals
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Speaker 2: defensive back Eric Thomas, and he is a pleasure to
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Speaker 2: work with on the Bengals Radio Network. What I admire
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Speaker 2: most about him is his sunny disposition. In an era
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Speaker 2: where everybody seems to be competing over who can make
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Speaker 2: the snarkiest comment about anything and everything, Box chooses to
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Speaker 2: emphasize the positive. He is a great person and his
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame recognition is richly deserved. Now let's get
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Speaker 2: to my first guest. When the Carolina Panthers released Von
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Speaker 2: Bell in March for salary cap reasons, the Bengals welcomed
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Speaker 2: him back with open arms. He played a key role
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Speaker 2: in three straight wins over the Kansas City Chiefs, and
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Speaker 2: we'll look to do it again this Sunday. Following last
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Speaker 2: week's sixteen to ten loss to the Patriots. Ron if
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Speaker 2: you hold a team to sixteen points for the rest
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Speaker 2: of the year, you guys are going to have a
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Speaker 2: really good record. How did you feel the defense performed
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Speaker 2: in week one?
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Speaker 4: Oh, it was flashes, But we got to finish, and
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Speaker 4: we gotta put more physical and on the line of scrimmage,
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Speaker 4: and we can't miss a lot of tackles because that
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Speaker 4: creates diplosives and it gives chance, It give teams a
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Speaker 4: chance of life. And we just got to finish and
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Speaker 4: play amost each other and I'll play together.
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Speaker 2: Luenarumo said there were fourteen teen miss tackles. Is that
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Speaker 2: a matter of fundamentals? Is it adjusting to the speed
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Speaker 2: of the game in week one? What's your explanation for that?
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Speaker 1: It's just fundamentals.
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Speaker 4: It's easy, easy fixed, and guys just gotta go out
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Speaker 4: there with the want to and willing to and really
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Speaker 4: just trust your brother that's that you playing next to,
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Speaker 4: and everybody all liven hats run to the ball.
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Speaker 2: Was there anything about that performance that really irked you?
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Speaker 1: No, not really, you know, we're playing.
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Speaker 4: With a lot of emotion, a lot of a lot
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Speaker 4: of energy, and it's just some of those times we've
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Speaker 4: gotten the little lulls. We gotta find the spark, we
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Speaker 4: gotta find them within us, uh to just get it
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Speaker 4: done and then and that's just the matter of it,
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Speaker 4: you know, just getting it done on Sundays and getting
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Speaker 4: the job done and getting to win.
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Speaker 1: And uh, that's what we're here to do.
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Speaker 4: And we suppost play at high level and play together
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Speaker 4: as one and we all got bigger goals and visions
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Speaker 4: at the end of it.
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Speaker 2: We're visiting with Von Bell lou and Romo was asked
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Speaker 2: about you last week. He said the following.
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Speaker 3: He helps everybody.
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Speaker 5: He helps, Uh certainly helps the linebackers just feeling comfortable
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Speaker 5: with what's going on behind them. He's always been we
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Speaker 5: know what he does in the locker room in terms
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Speaker 5: of but that locker room communication, he takes that and
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Speaker 5: he continues it onto the field because he's always talking football.
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Speaker 5: I'll walk by there at seven thirty in the morning, him,
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Speaker 5: Jermaine Logan and they're all in that corner and they're
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Speaker 5: talking about something and so it just continues out onto
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Speaker 5: the field. So there's a reason why he was voted
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Speaker 5: captain as soon as he got back here. And it's
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Speaker 5: not just because he's a good guy. His influence goes
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Speaker 5: throughout the whole team.
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Speaker 2: How do you go about trying to help everybody.
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Speaker 4: There's overallers of communication and just really trying to give
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Speaker 4: pre snapper eads and knowing the situation, knowing that formation,
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Speaker 4: what they do out the formation, and just try to
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Speaker 4: give tips to guys so they could set.
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Speaker 1: Their mind down so they can play.
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Speaker 4: Fast and they just try to be there. Always tell
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Speaker 4: him like you got me here, it's you play off me.
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Speaker 4: So if we both rent to the ball like i'sis
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Speaker 4: I used to outside, So we always just playing off
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Speaker 4: other so you can know where your help is at
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Speaker 4: all times, so you can just play like, oh I
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Speaker 4: got it. I could play a step faster and know
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Speaker 4: you got that leverage and what routes you can cheat to.
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Speaker 4: So it's just trying to just slow the game down
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Speaker 4: like how the older guys I played with it slowed
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Speaker 4: the game down for me.
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Speaker 2: We're having this conversation on a Wednesday, What did you
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Speaker 2: do on Tuesday, the player's day off?
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Speaker 4: I did? I did pilates. I got the guys in.
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Speaker 4: I lifted first and got the guys in around like
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Speaker 4: nine nine thirty, and we had a dB bean and
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Speaker 4: we're going through the you know, the guys, their personnel,
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Speaker 4: what they like to do, and what we did previous
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Speaker 4: years before playing this team, and how.
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Speaker 1: They just how it's supposed to they are.
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Speaker 4: They just replicated what they were passed and they just
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Speaker 4: plug and play pieces with one with four, with five,
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Speaker 4: those speed guys in eighty seven of course, and you
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Speaker 4: know the fifteen is the cow bell.
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Speaker 1: He runs the show.
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Speaker 4: So you just know what he likes to do, what
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Speaker 4: he likes to get to, who he likes to get
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Speaker 4: it to, and know the situations and what it looks
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Speaker 4: like and just getting just getting a head started that
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Speaker 4: so the guys could already thinking it there at home
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Speaker 4: and then just watching ball, it is always thinking balld
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Speaker 4: So so we have a smooth Chris Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: Did you start the tradition of those Tuesday meetings with
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Speaker 2: the secondary or did you take that from an older
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Speaker 2: teammate somewhere along the way.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I think it was a combination of both, because
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Speaker 4: we did it in New Orleans and we always had
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Speaker 4: the guy.
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Speaker 1: I always had the guys.
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Speaker 4: Going there because I was always there and we just
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Speaker 4: we just we just created it and.
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Speaker 1: I said, I'm due. I did there.
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Speaker 4: We had lots of says and we brought it here.
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Speaker 4: We had a lots of sss and guys is jailled.
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Speaker 1: And the rooms became one. And that's what you want
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day.
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Speaker 4: And you want to everybody on the same of course,
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Speaker 4: in the same vision at the same less, so we
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Speaker 4: could play out basketball in December.
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Speaker 2: You're heading to Arrowhead on Sunday where you made one
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Speaker 2: of the biggest plays in franchise history and the twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one AFC Championship game, the overtime interception that set
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Speaker 2: up the game winning field goal. The Bengals send three
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Speaker 2: cover with eight my homes deep down field for the Cheetah.
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Speaker 3: It's deflected and intercepted.
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Speaker 6: By von Belle Belle running in the middle of the
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Speaker 6: field forty five, taken down with a high tackle by
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Speaker 6: Kelsey at the forty five yard line. No penalty flag,
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Speaker 6: but the Bengals come up with an overtime interception and
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Speaker 6: now could win the game on a field goal.
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Speaker 2: Is the ball on display at your house? Do you
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Speaker 2: have a framed picture of it. What does that moment
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Speaker 2: mean to you?
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Speaker 4: That moment means a lot. But you know, I never
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Speaker 4: just want to live in the past. I live in
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Speaker 4: the now. And there's a lot of memories been made,
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Speaker 4: a lot of great ones, a lot with great people
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Speaker 4: here in this locker room. But I'm still trying to
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Speaker 4: still chasing it. And that's the mindset, is like what's
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Speaker 4: the next objective? And Sunday is the next objective. And
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Speaker 4: we got to go do the task at hand and
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Speaker 4: go out there with my brothers, have fun and fly
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Speaker 4: around and make players go be a electric atmosphere. You
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Speaker 4: know who they are and we know who We always
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Speaker 4: gotta go and showcase our talents.
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Speaker 1: Is the ball on display something like that, something like
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Speaker 1: that pictures everywhere, But you.
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Speaker 4: Know, I just I look fast and have a tunnel
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Speaker 4: vision and just keep on going.
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Speaker 2: As a Bengal, you're three to one against Patrick Mahomes.
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Speaker 2: Do you think the Bengals match up uniquely well against
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Speaker 2: Kansas City?
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Speaker 4: I think so. I think it's a great matchup. We
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Speaker 4: always get their best, They always got bess And when
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Speaker 4: you're playing the best, everybody uprise their play and you
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Speaker 4: feel the energy is electric and you just want to
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Speaker 4: be in that moment when made the big play and
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Speaker 4: God's just feeding off each other.
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Speaker 1: So I think we match up. Well, we've got to
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Speaker 1: go out there and do our job.
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Speaker 2: They've added Xavier Worthy ran a four to forty at
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Speaker 2: the Combine, a new record. How has that impacted trying
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Speaker 2: to defend the Chiefs.
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Speaker 4: I think we played fast guys before, and that's the
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Speaker 4: life of the NFL. You know, I still don't think
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Speaker 4: he got Tyreek Hill, but that's one of the fast
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Speaker 4: guys I've ever seen a play, though. We'll go see
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Speaker 4: on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: That's a good point. Tyreek Kel was on that one
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Speaker 2: team when you made the pick. In fact, the past
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Speaker 2: was thrown for him. Last question. In late August, after
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Speaker 2: he was cut by New England, the Chiefs signed Juju
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Speaker 2: Smith Schuster. Obviously you two have a history.
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Speaker 7: There's a pressure from the Bengals. Roethlis Porter, Juju Smith
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Speaker 7: Schuster is blown up and the whistles blow. Bun Bell
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Speaker 7: not messing around.
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Speaker 2: You've played against him since the big hit on Monday
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Speaker 2: Night Football? Is there communication? Is there a look exchanged?
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Speaker 2: Have you ever mentioned it? What happens after a play
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Speaker 2: like that, I.
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Speaker 1: Think it's sorry sitting done, and he's got mutual speke
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Speaker 1: for me. I haven't respect families.
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Speaker 4: He's a guy out there playing receiver and I'm just
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Speaker 4: going at the time do my job at.
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Speaker 1: A high level. So there's no beef, but nothing. It's ball.
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Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing you play ball on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the time, best of luck.
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Speaker 1: Just say thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: It's worth noting that since that fumble forcing hit in
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Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty, Juju Smith Schuster no longer performs
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Speaker 2: TikTok dances on the other team's logo before games. Patrick
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Speaker 2: Mahomes has a fifteen and three record in postseason play,
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Speaker 2: including three Super Bowl titles. The only quarterbacks to beat
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Speaker 2: him in the playoffs are Tom Brady, who did it twice,
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Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow. Burrow certainly wasn't bad last week, completing
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Speaker 2: seventy two percent of his passes, and he threw two
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Speaker 2: balls that could have been or should have been touchdowns.
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Speaker 2: Mike Kasicki's TV catch was overturned on replay, and Tanner
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Speaker 2: Hudson fumbled just before getting to the goal line. Having
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Speaker 2: said that it wasn't vintage Burrow, and the scrutiny of
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Speaker 2: his wrist has reached absurd levels, including analysis on social
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Speaker 2: media of the way he lifted a water bottle while
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Speaker 2: sitting on the bench. Joe has actually asked about it
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Speaker 2: at a news conference on Wednesday.
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Speaker 8: I picked it up, weird. Yes, I don't know I
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Speaker 8: drank water. I can't say I've seen that or know
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Speaker 8: what anybody's talking about. Yeah, that's always tough when you're
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Speaker 8: coming back from injury, you haven't played in a while,
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Speaker 8: you're not quite sure how it's gonna feel.
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Speaker 9: That's part of it. Week one, nobody's panicking sat up
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Speaker 9: here and said that before. Unfortunately we're in the same
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Speaker 9: spot after week one, but we got another opportunity on Sunday,
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Speaker 9: and we got fifteen more opportunities after that to go
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Speaker 9: and get better and show what we're all about.
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Speaker 10: So we're excited for that.
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Speaker 2: Sunday's game begins at four to twenty five, meaning it
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Speaker 2: will have a huge national TV audience, and the number
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Speaker 2: one broadcasting crew for CBS will be on the call
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Speaker 2: when the Bengals take out the Chiefs. We think of
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Speaker 2: two names on the field, Burrow and Mahomes and two
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Speaker 2: names in the booth, Nancy Remo, and we are delighted
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Speaker 2: to be joined by the great Jim Nance.
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Speaker 11: Jim.
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Speaker 2: This will be the sixth time in a little more
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Speaker 2: than three years that you guys have called the Bengals
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Speaker 2: Chiefs game, and the previous ones have all been thrillers.
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Speaker 2: Do you think the Bengals have a unique ability to
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Speaker 2: go toe to toe with the two time defending Super
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Speaker 2: Bowl champs?
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Speaker 3: They definitely have. By the way, great to see you, Dan,
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Speaker 3: Great to be with you again, Hello friend. I definitely
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Speaker 3: feel that the Bengals know how to compete with the
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Speaker 3: Chiefs better than anyone. Yeah, Roof is in all these results,
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Speaker 3: we've had, all these field goal games, margins in the end,
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Speaker 3: and even though everybody right now is shaking their head
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Speaker 3: off of last week's performance against the Patriots, we just
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Speaker 3: know that Zach Taylor, his staff and Joe and this
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Speaker 3: team know how to go down to arrowhead, not be intimidated,
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Speaker 3: and not only hang with them, but often win. So
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Speaker 3: it's going to be something to.
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Speaker 2: See every time we've had one of these conversations. I've
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Speaker 2: asked you some question about Joe Burrow, so I'm trying
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Speaker 2: to think of something new, and I'm going to put
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Speaker 2: you on the spot. You are the greatest golf announcer
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Speaker 2: of all time. So what golf legend comes to mind
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Speaker 2: when you think of Joe Burrow.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to keep that one in the because
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Speaker 3: we're going to count his days at Ohio State before
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Speaker 3: it went down to Alice.
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Speaker 11: You.
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Speaker 3: We're going to keep it in the Buckeye family. But
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Speaker 3: there are some that's an interesting question. By the way,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go with the Golden Bear, Jack Nicholas.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm only going to go with the greatest
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Speaker 3: of all time here, and by that, I'm not saying
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Speaker 3: that Joe is the greatest of all time. You're talking
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Speaker 3: about just in terms of the way he carries himself,
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Speaker 3: goes about his business and everything. I do see that
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Speaker 3: if I had to figure out a golf legend, because
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Speaker 3: Joe is brilliantly smart, strategically brilliant as well when it
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Speaker 3: comes to what he needs to do, where the ball
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Speaker 3: needs to go, how to handle himself. He's fully prepared
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Speaker 3: as Jack was. No one prepared harder than Jack Nicholas,
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Speaker 3: and his execution is spot on also, So I'll go
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Speaker 3: with Jack Nicholas. You know you think about Arnold Palmer. No,
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Speaker 3: I don't see it there, the swash buckling Arnold Palmer. No,
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Speaker 3: that might be more like a Mahomes type comparison. Gary Player.
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Speaker 3: I'm going through the list of all the old greats,
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Speaker 3: but I think Jack Nicholas is a good one. I'll
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Speaker 3: give him Jack. I'm going to tell him. By the way,
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Speaker 3: in the production meeting, I got asked this interesting question.
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Speaker 3: I know he plays a little bit of golf, and
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Speaker 3: hopefully he'll like that comparison.
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Speaker 2: We're visiting with Jim Nantz. We're a week into the season.
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Speaker 2: We reference the Bengals slow start. What are your question
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Speaker 2: marks about the Bengals at this point?
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Speaker 3: Just the outside game, you know how that's such an
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Speaker 3: important part of the success of the Bengals, is being
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Speaker 3: able to go vertical and have a threat from the outside.
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Speaker 3: And with t being injured again and you know it's
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Speaker 3: going to take a lot for him to come back
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Speaker 3: from a hamstring after only one week, so I'm not
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Speaker 3: counting on him. And Jamar, you know, can't quite be
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Speaker 3: the Jamorrow. We know number one without Tea on the
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Speaker 3: other side, Number two having missed a significant amount of
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Speaker 3: camp and all this controversy up in the air. By
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Speaker 3: the way, no Tyler Boyd either, So my biggest question
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Speaker 3: with them is just the weaponry that is around Joe Burrow.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, I didn't even mention Joe Mixon,
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Speaker 3: So I mean, Joe certainly had a lot to still offer,
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Speaker 3: as we saw last week with a great performance in
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Speaker 3: a Texans uniform. So yeah, I guess the biggest questions
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Speaker 3: I have right now going to this game is what's
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Speaker 3: this offense going to look like? When are they going
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Speaker 3: to start playing the brand of football that we've come
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Speaker 3: to expect and appreciated watching a really exciting, dangerous team
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Speaker 3: from any point on the field. Is that when is
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Speaker 3: that going to be rekindled?
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Speaker 2: Joe commands so much attention, and rightfully so for his
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Speaker 2: great play at quarterback, But from these Bengals Chiefs games
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Speaker 2: that you've done and thrilling finishes, is there a Bengals
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Speaker 2: player that you think deserves more of the national spotlight
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Speaker 2: than he gets?
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Speaker 3: You know, Mike Hilton. We definitely have built him up
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Speaker 3: through the ears, and he's certainly got some postseason recognition.
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Speaker 3: I actually think the biggest Bengal that gets short changed
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Speaker 3: a little bit in terms of credit is a guy
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Speaker 3: that cares the least about the credit, and that's your
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Speaker 3: head coach. He's just so comfortable being who he is,
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Speaker 3: not having to have a light shone on him. I'm
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Speaker 3: really blown away by the way he conducts himself. He's
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Speaker 3: just first class and people don't rattle off his name
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Speaker 3: as one of these young geniuses out there in the
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Speaker 3: NFL as far as a head coach, but he is.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's done remarkable things. So I think the
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Speaker 3: one person that deserves a little bit more fanfare about
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Speaker 3: him would be Zach. I just I don't see him
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Speaker 3: getting quite that upper echelon kind of mentioned, oh you
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Speaker 3: got to talk about this guy, that guy, and he's
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Speaker 3: not on that list. He's really built it. So maybe
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Speaker 3: we need to do a better job of that starting
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Speaker 3: this weekend when they come in here and give the
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Speaker 3: Chiefs a great game right down to the wire. By
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Speaker 3: the way, all these games that we've done, I know,
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Speaker 3: the favorite one for the Bengal Faithful would be the
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Speaker 3: AFC Championship game at Arrowhead. But the one that was
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Speaker 3: the real eye opener for me was that at that
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Speaker 3: point it was a seventeen week regular season and it
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Speaker 3: was the win at the wire, win the division that year,
17:48
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl year, Brandon Allen had to come into
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Speaker 3: the end. He goes, Joe got nicked on first or
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Speaker 3: second down near the goal line, and you know, they
17:57
Speaker 3: used up the clock and took a couple of with
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Speaker 3: a backup quarterback and then kick the winner. And that
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Speaker 3: was the game where Chase went crazy, went over two
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Speaker 3: hundred yards as a rookie, And that was probably my
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Speaker 3: most the game I enjoyed the most. It was absolutely
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Speaker 3: took your breath away watching one big play after another.
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Speaker 2: You had a spectacular call in that game, Chase, there
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Speaker 2: is no Chase. I love that as he was pulling
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Speaker 2: away from seemingly everybody on the Chiefs roster. But I
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Speaker 2: want to talk about what I consider to be one
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Speaker 2: of your all time most iconic calls, and that came
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Speaker 2: on Evan McPherson's game winning field goal that sent the
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Speaker 2: Bengals to the Super Bowl. Just before the kick, you
18:39
Speaker 2: said this could be a sentence that a month ago
18:43
Speaker 2: would sound incomprehensible. What a great word to pull that
18:48
Speaker 2: one out. And then after the kick, Cincinnati is headed
18:51
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. Is there anything better in this
18:54
Speaker 2: job than having one of those moments and saying the
18:58
Speaker 2: right thing off the cuff.
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Speaker 3: Well, we're always trying to you know, we make our
19:02
Speaker 3: living with our words. That's the toolkit we bring to
19:05
Speaker 3: work every day, and believe me, they don't always feel
19:08
Speaker 3: like they landed. You're trying, and I appreciate you resurrecting
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Speaker 3: those words because I truly could not have quoted it
19:17
Speaker 3: word for word like that. But I do remember the
19:22
Speaker 3: excitement when that ball went through. I had no doubt
19:25
Speaker 3: he was going to make the kick, so I definitely
19:27
Speaker 3: would have recalled saying something about the unlikelihood of that moment.
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Speaker 3: It's one of those things that it kind of was
19:35
Speaker 3: foreshadowing that he was already going to make the kick
19:40
Speaker 3: in a way, but it kind of all that I
19:44
Speaker 3: said in the preamble wouldn't have matched up with a
19:47
Speaker 3: block field goal, and it only really worked if he did,
19:52
Speaker 3: you know, he did the thing he was supposed to do,
19:54
Speaker 3: knock it through the uprights, and it just it kind
19:57
Speaker 3: of reminds me a little bit of when Tiger won
19:59
Speaker 3: the twenty nineteen He masters and I probably got a
20:02
Speaker 3: little ahead of myself because he still had you know,
20:03
Speaker 3: I still had like two and a half feet to win.
20:06
Speaker 3: And I said, it's kind of a stylistically in a
20:09
Speaker 3: similar way, I said, oh, you know something about paraphrasing.
20:13
Speaker 3: I know the last line. But all the talk, all
20:16
Speaker 3: the years, people wondered, would we ever see a moment
20:20
Speaker 3: like this. Well, now here it is laid out, knocked
20:25
Speaker 3: it in the center of a cup, which again the
20:27
Speaker 3: preamble was assuming there was going to be the payoff,
20:30
Speaker 3: and the payoff line, there was the return to glory,
20:35
Speaker 3: and it just it's like one sentence with a pause
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Speaker 3: in between for the athlete to go, do what I'm
20:42
Speaker 3: expecting you're going to do, kick it through the uprights,
20:45
Speaker 3: knock it in from two and a half three feet,
20:47
Speaker 3: and then it works and it feels like you found
20:50
Speaker 3: a sweet spot. Trust me, it's not always that way.
20:53
Speaker 3: But thank you for quoting that, Dan, Thank you.
20:56
Speaker 2: I've got time for one last question. I better ask
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Speaker 2: you one about the Chiefs. So they won their opener
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Speaker 2: by a tell literally what impressed you by Kansas City
21:04
Speaker 2: About Kansas City on opening night.
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Speaker 3: I think they could be better. I think they could
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Speaker 3: be physically better than they were. I think That's almost
21:13
Speaker 3: a pretty easy argument to present because they have more
21:18
Speaker 3: speed and they don't even have Hollywood brown Back yet.
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Speaker 3: He's going to be another big weapon. But we saw
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Speaker 3: it with Worthy breaking Xavier Worthy the rookie scoring two touchdowns.
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Speaker 3: They had nothing like that to call on last year.
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Speaker 3: I mean, in fact, they won going through road games,
21:37
Speaker 3: you having to win at Buffalo and at Baltimore and Mahomes.
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Speaker 3: Patrick really did not have anything on the outside that
21:46
Speaker 3: he could trust. You know, he had Kelsey work in
21:49
Speaker 3: the middle of the field, and every once in a
21:51
Speaker 3: while if he would catch it and if Eldz Scantling
21:54
Speaker 3: would would make something happen. Very occasionally. I've been only
21:57
Speaker 3: caught like thirty balls on the year. So now all
22:00
Speaker 3: of a sudden, Rashid Rice looks like a solid wide
22:04
Speaker 3: receiver one in this league, worthy as a threat anytime
22:08
Speaker 3: he steps on the field, and maybe their best receiver
22:11
Speaker 3: of all is going to set out the first four weeks.
22:14
Speaker 3: So they're better. Their offensive line is just fine, their
22:17
Speaker 3: defense has got another year of seasoning. They're dangerous. Now.
22:21
Speaker 3: It takes a lot more than just being the best
22:23
Speaker 3: physically gifted team to win, and you're going to have
22:26
Speaker 3: this story. They can handle it all year long. Going
22:29
Speaker 3: for the first ever three p that's a lot to bear,
22:33
Speaker 3: but so was last year going through the playoffs and
22:35
Speaker 3: having to win those road games. I mentioned. It's going
22:38
Speaker 3: to be a really fun team to watch.
22:41
Speaker 2: This Chad is always one of the highlights of my season.
22:44
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough. Keep up the awesome work.
22:47
Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing your call on Sunday.
22:49
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Great to be with you. I
22:51
Speaker 3: love our tradition, so thank you.
22:54
Speaker 2: It might not be a tradition unlike any other, but
22:57
Speaker 2: I truly appreciate Jim making time for me every year.
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Speaker 2: this week's Know the Faux Segment. Dana Hughes played wide
23:27
Speaker 2: receiver for the Chiefs for six years in the nineteen
23:30
Speaker 2: nineties and is currently the analyst on the radio broadcasts.
23:34
Speaker 2: He joined Dave Lapham and me this week on the
23:37
Speaker 2: Bengals Game Plan Show. I want to start with this.
23:42
Speaker 2: The Chiefs were able to keep the core of the
23:44
Speaker 2: two time defending Super Bowl champion roster and they have
23:47
Speaker 2: added some great players in wide receiver Xavier Worthy and
23:52
Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown. This scares me to ask, but do you
23:56
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs are actually improved in twenty twenty five?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know what, Thanks for having me, guys. This
24:04
Speaker 11: is gonna be an epic week. Obviously, this matchup a
24:07
Speaker 11: rivalry and a lot of respects. But you know, as
24:11
Speaker 11: far as the makeup of this team, I think it
24:13
Speaker 11: potentially has the ability to do so. I mean last
24:16
Speaker 11: year going eleven and six, with the drops that we experienced,
24:23
Speaker 11: the losses that we had, a lot of people say
24:26
Speaker 11: that that wasn't even our best version of the Chiefs
24:30
Speaker 11: in these three super Bowl runs. So like, I feel
24:34
Speaker 11: like this organization, Brett Beach, Andy Reid has done a
24:38
Speaker 11: dynamic job of always filling in the gaps. And if
24:43
Speaker 11: you go back to even when Tyreek Hill was here
24:45
Speaker 11: and then we traded him away and got all the
24:48
Speaker 11: draft picks for him, there was like addition by subtraction,
24:52
Speaker 11: and that may be the case even now with the
24:55
Speaker 11: construction of this offense, specifically Hollywood Brown, I not play
25:00
Speaker 11: this week, still nursing that shoulder injury. At the same time,
25:05
Speaker 11: what we saw in week one from the other task
25:09
Speaker 11: of receivers gives us a lot of hope here in
25:12
Speaker 11: Kansas City and a lot of optimism. So is it
25:14
Speaker 11: a better version? Tom will tell But I like what
25:18
Speaker 11: we look like right now, Well, I'll tell you.
25:20
Speaker 10: Patrick Mahomes obviously is the straw that sers that drink.
25:23
Speaker 10: Always hasn't been, always will be in the in the
25:27
Speaker 10: opening victory in the fourth quarter, had a perfect quarterback
25:30
Speaker 10: rating five for five sixty eight yards average, thirteen point
25:34
Speaker 10: six per completion, touchdown pass, no interceptions, a perfect fourth quarter.
25:39
Speaker 10: He seems to play big in the biggest moments of
25:43
Speaker 10: football games. He does it all the time, doesn't he.
25:47
Speaker 11: Well, the challenge is that I want to say, maybe
25:51
Speaker 11: the last time he didn't was in the AFT Championship
25:54
Speaker 11: against you guys, So like that's but having to go
25:58
Speaker 11: that far backwards is encouraging as a Chiefs fan. And
26:02
Speaker 11: you're right, like pressure buss pipes. But Patrick Mahomes doesn't
26:06
Speaker 11: feel that same kind of pressure. And I think, you know,
26:09
Speaker 11: when you're a leader like that, your attitude, that aura
26:14
Speaker 11: kind of permeates through the entire team, not just the
26:16
Speaker 11: offensive huddle. So I feel like if you ask players,
26:19
Speaker 11: and I'm in the locker room after the games, I'm
26:22
Speaker 11: asking questions, interviewing guys wins or losses, and to a
26:27
Speaker 11: man like you can see kind of an even keel mindset.
26:32
Speaker 11: They're just kind of you know, you know, we didn't
26:34
Speaker 11: play out best and we lost. We played really good
26:37
Speaker 11: and we played it good enough to win. And it's
26:40
Speaker 11: never the highs and lows. You never walk in there
26:43
Speaker 11: and hear anybody screaming at each other. You never see
26:45
Speaker 11: any face to face altercations. I've been in that locker room.
26:49
Speaker 11: I've played for six years here in Kansas City. I
26:51
Speaker 11: can tell you from experience there's been times where guys
26:54
Speaker 11: had to be separated back in those days in the nineties,
26:58
Speaker 11: and you don't ever see that. I think that's why
27:01
Speaker 11: this team can remain balanced and remain strong is because
27:05
Speaker 11: their leadership, even from the top. I heard the story
27:09
Speaker 11: about Travis Kelce. I want to say it was Xavier
27:12
Speaker 11: Worthy that was sitting by himself in OTA's and lunch,
27:16
Speaker 11: and Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes just came over and
27:18
Speaker 11: sat with him by himself. And you know that's not normal.
27:23
Speaker 11: That's not normal behavior for veterans in regards to not
27:26
Speaker 11: hazing or embracing young guys. But they have a bigger
27:30
Speaker 11: picture of mine. I want to say that the leadership
27:33
Speaker 11: is the main cause of that. These guys understand the
27:36
Speaker 11: task at hand. They were talking about it before they
27:39
Speaker 11: even touched the trophy in Las Vegas, that it was
27:41
Speaker 11: about the three pet and they're doing everything they can
27:44
Speaker 11: control to get there.
27:47
Speaker 2: Chiefs radio analyst Dan and Hughes is our guest in
27:50
Speaker 2: this salary cap era, when you've got one of the
27:53
Speaker 2: highest paid quarterbacks, it's impossible to keep everybody, and the
27:56
Speaker 2: Chiefs were not able to keep a great corner and
27:59
Speaker 2: lugarious sneak. How do you feel about the Chief's secondary
28:03
Speaker 2: having lost one of the best cover corners in the league.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that was a big loss. And I'm not in
28:11
Speaker 11: the point of saying that it's an audition by subtraction yet,
28:14
Speaker 11: but I will say that what we've done in previous
28:18
Speaker 11: years got us to this point where you can feel
28:20
Speaker 11: some comfort in regards to the depth at the defensive
28:23
Speaker 11: back position. When you lose Lagarious Need, but you have
28:28
Speaker 11: Joshua Williams and Jalen Watson who have had ample playing
28:32
Speaker 11: time in the last previous two years and two Super
28:35
Speaker 11: Bowl runs. You feel comfortable. Now, do you feel like
28:39
Speaker 11: one side of the field is locked down? No, but
28:41
Speaker 11: you do feel comfortable. And if we can get we
28:44
Speaker 11: know the key to every coverage is a pass rush,
28:47
Speaker 11: and if you can get around the body of opposing quarterbacks,
28:51
Speaker 11: We've got like George Carl Loftus and Chris Jones and
28:54
Speaker 11: Mike Danna, and then when you know we get guys
28:57
Speaker 11: back off the shelf, we've been Steve's Nolo has drawn
29:01
Speaker 11: up a great, great defense the complement on offense. There's
29:05
Speaker 11: confidence there. So I don't think you can say in
29:08
Speaker 11: week two that you've successfully filled the shoes of a
29:11
Speaker 11: Jerious Need. But I think what you can say at
29:14
Speaker 11: this point is that you're comfortable with the depth that
29:17
Speaker 11: you had. Jayden Hicks, a draft pick this year, has
29:20
Speaker 11: really shown something in regards to the depth at the
29:25
Speaker 11: safety position. Shamari Connor is the guy that really played
29:29
Speaker 11: strongly last year his rookie campaign. So like the depth
29:33
Speaker 11: is there, the shutdown angle, I'm not sure yet.
29:36
Speaker 10: Let me ask you about Worthy. Worthy is obviously a
29:41
Speaker 10: blur for fastest sever recorded combine. I mean, he joins
29:46
Speaker 10: five other players. They have a touchdown receiving and a
29:50
Speaker 10: touchdown rushing in their career debut in the National Football
29:53
Speaker 10: League history, one of six guys. And when he turned
29:57
Speaker 10: the corner, when he played on his foot and cut
29:59
Speaker 10: up the kilt, it looks like everybody else was in concrete. Man,
30:02
Speaker 10: he was unbelievable.
30:04
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean Andy Reid, I call him a mad
30:08
Speaker 11: scientist of offense. He just sits back and you can
30:11
Speaker 11: imagine in late nights, the creativity, the juice is flowing,
30:15
Speaker 11: the wheels turning in his head about how he can
30:18
Speaker 11: make this offense better and how he can make players
30:21
Speaker 11: dynamic and force success upon them. And that's what you
30:25
Speaker 11: get with Xavier Worthy. Four two to one speed. Now,
30:28
Speaker 11: if you just line him up on the outside of
30:30
Speaker 11: the numbers and just say, okay, run these routes, you're
30:34
Speaker 11: not necessarily going to get the best effect or the
30:37
Speaker 11: best success from that. So what do you do you
30:40
Speaker 11: move him in motion so he doesn't have bump and
30:42
Speaker 11: run coverage. You get him in space, you run him
30:44
Speaker 11: out of the slot, you run jet sweeps. Now teams
30:47
Speaker 11: have to have to be justified in respecting the jet sweep.
30:52
Speaker 11: What's that going to do for other receivers like Rashid
30:55
Speaker 11: Rice running that play action off of that, So like
30:59
Speaker 11: it's all part of the process. And Andy Reid is
31:01
Speaker 11: one of the best, if not the best, to ever
31:05
Speaker 11: garner a headset for an offense, and like that speed
31:10
Speaker 11: is killer and can you only imagine what it's going
31:14
Speaker 11: to look like when Hollywood Brown is a part of
31:16
Speaker 11: the offense and back healthy. He's like those two complimenting
31:20
Speaker 11: each other. And then where she Rice and Travis Kelcey
31:22
Speaker 11: running the crossing routes, the shallow crosses, the pick routes,
31:27
Speaker 11: et cetera. As long as we can protect up front,
31:30
Speaker 11: Like I like our offense and how it compliments everything
31:34
Speaker 11: about our team.
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Speaker 2: Hollywood didn't practice today. Do you think it's unlikely that
31:39
Speaker 2: he will play on Sunday?
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Speaker 11: I feel like it's unlikely. I mean, if we're talking
31:45
Speaker 11: about Wednesday practice. You know, if I was a betting person,
31:48
Speaker 11: which I'm not. You just have to feel like if
31:51
Speaker 11: you've been injured for a long period of time and
31:55
Speaker 11: you've missed a couple of games, you missed preseason games.
31:58
Speaker 11: We had kind of a a semi bye week this
32:02
Speaker 11: past week because we played on Thursday night, and you're
32:05
Speaker 11: still not healthy. We go to Atlanta next week. I
32:08
Speaker 11: feel like, if he's not full speed and ready to
32:12
Speaker 11: go through the dog days of practices on Wednesday and Thursday,
32:16
Speaker 11: then I'm not sure that you would throw him to
32:19
Speaker 11: the Wolves on Sunday, especially against a team like the
32:22
Speaker 11: Cincinnati Bengals. So if I was a guessing person, a
32:25
Speaker 11: betting person, I would say it would be it would
32:28
Speaker 11: be not possible that he would be out there and playing.
32:34
Speaker 10: We mentioned him, mentioned him briefly, Chris Jones, and as
32:38
Speaker 10: a former offensive lineman. Anytime the Chiefs are an opponent,
32:41
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh my god, Chris Jones, this guy, you know,
32:45
Speaker 10: he and Aaron Donald. It was like one one A
32:48
Speaker 10: and I actually had him one in Aaron Donald one A.
32:51
Speaker 10: I think Chris Jones is a beast in every sense
32:54
Speaker 10: of the word. And I mean you have to have
32:56
Speaker 10: four hands and four eyes on him. You have to
32:59
Speaker 10: locate him. It's like when you come to the line
33:01
Speaker 10: of scrimmage, a quarterback is looking for you know, keys
33:03
Speaker 10: for coverage. Lineman and quarterback have to find him and
33:07
Speaker 10: they got to make sure that he's taken care of.
33:10
Speaker 10: And is he still doing the same stuff. Is he
33:12
Speaker 10: going up and down the line of scrimmage without any
33:14
Speaker 10: kind of pattern to rhyme or reason, looking for the
33:17
Speaker 10: biggest fish.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what I was just about to mention, is
33:21
Speaker 11: the versatility of Chris Jones. I think that's to me
33:24
Speaker 11: what stands out about him. Yes, his motor is great,
33:27
Speaker 11: he's dominant one on one. I feel sorry for the
33:30
Speaker 11: offensive lineman, but now when you move him from over
33:33
Speaker 11: the nose to the tackle to a wide seven or
33:36
Speaker 11: nine technique against the isolated tackle, like you create problems
33:42
Speaker 11: at the line of scrimmage. And it's not like we're
33:45
Speaker 11: breaking the huddle and he's lining up exactly where he's
33:48
Speaker 11: going to be. Like there were there were times in
33:50
Speaker 11: the last game if you watched it, where he was
33:53
Speaker 11: moving when the quarterback was under center. And now the
33:57
Speaker 11: whole protection as you know better than I do, to
34:00
Speaker 11: identifying guys and protection and now all of a sudden
34:03
Speaker 11: he's not where he was, that can create a problem.
34:06
Speaker 11: So like, yeah, the teams that are gonna be you know,
34:11
Speaker 11: have any semblance of success or at least try to
34:14
Speaker 11: have success against him, are going to be teams that
34:16
Speaker 11: are gonna have to break the huddle with fourteen fifteen
34:19
Speaker 11: seconds left on the playclock, you know, change up the
34:23
Speaker 11: tempo and tone up their offense, go quick run tempo,
34:28
Speaker 11: no huddle, et cetera. And then have him more isolated,
34:32
Speaker 11: because if you allow him to break the huddle and
34:34
Speaker 11: sit there and maneuver, change positions, etc. As the clock
34:38
Speaker 11: lines down and you get predictable. As a team that's
34:41
Speaker 11: a going to snap the ball inside five seconds, it's
34:44
Speaker 11: got to be a long day for your quarterback and
34:46
Speaker 11: your offense. So yeah, Chris Jones, as long as he
34:48
Speaker 11: stays healthy, I believe he's one. Now that Aaron Donald
34:52
Speaker 11: is not in the league, and he's he's embraced it,
34:55
Speaker 11: like he embraces that leadership role. He embraces the fact
34:59
Speaker 11: that he knows all eyes are going to be on
35:01
Speaker 11: him all game long, and that's what you need from
35:05
Speaker 11: dominance on defense as a guy that's going to say
35:08
Speaker 11: I'm the star of this defense. I'm gonna I know,
35:11
Speaker 11: I'm going to get the attention and I'm willing to
35:13
Speaker 11: step up and make the plays or suck up some
35:16
Speaker 11: of the blockers. So guys like George cal Offtis and
35:19
Speaker 11: Mike Danna and other guys blitz packages without VBS. We're
35:23
Speaker 11: able to get home as well. So a lot of
35:25
Speaker 11: confusion is created because of that dominance of Chris Jones.
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