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- 0:05The Beatles have become a museum.
- 0:08Welcome to Mark and Pete. Only The Beatles, I think, could
- 0:11turn standing on a cold roof into Cent in central London,
- 0:15into a near religious pilgrimage site.
- 0:17Yes, this is Mark and Pete's two blokes with half an opinion.
- 0:22Now here's our first thought. The Beatles get back again.
- 0:29When musics decides to get back or come together to please
- 0:34please me. Should yesterday be another day
- 0:38in the life or should we just let it be?
- 0:42Yes, once again here we are, another Beatles story.
- 0:46Well, remarkably, The Beatles are turning the building where
- 0:49they play their last ever gig into an exhibition place.
- 0:52Yes, it's a museum for fans. Wow.
- 0:56I certainly am looking forward to this.
- 0:58Yes, the Grade 2 listed a mansion 3 Savile Row, which
- 1:02served as the band's headquarters between 1968 and
- 1:061972, even when the the actual band had split up.
- 1:09But commercially, they actually continued.
- 1:13And of course, the brand lives on.
- 1:15Let It Be was the basement recording, and many people still
- 1:20think that that's a great piece of music still stands up today.
- 1:23Mr. Pete, here we go, yet another story, more than 50
- 1:27years after the actual band split up, and yet now we've
- 1:32actually got a pilgrimage, no longer just simply at the Cavern
- 1:36in Liverpool, but in London. What say you about this?
- 1:40Yes, The Beatles are are an enduring story, aren't they?
- 1:43They I mean, The thing is, I guess you would argue Mr. Mark
- 1:48Thatchy. They were pretty good at
- 1:50songwriting and performing was was reasonable as well.
- 1:54So, you know, they perhaps there is a good reason, but there are
- 1:58other talented artists that don't get quite the same
- 2:01attention as The Beatles. And I think it's because here's
- 2:06my 2 penths on why it is The Beatles were at the beginning of
- 2:11that sort of style. You know, there's a band of
- 2:15four, I was going to say attractive young men, four young
- 2:18men. And so they are then, of course,
- 2:22attractive to the young girls who watch them.
- 2:24Is it was sort of a like a phenomenon at the time.
- 2:27And it was the start of that sort of lively music being as
- 2:32popular as it was bringing in different elements of music to
- 2:36create this unique sound. So because they were the start
- 2:40of something, they become the most famous.
- 2:42But also, I would say it's enduring because especially
- 2:47today, these days, I say, being old and cynical, the music, the
- 2:53popular music or pop music of today just isn't anywhere near
- 2:57the standard that it was back in the day of The Beatles.
- 3:00So what have we got to celebrate these days?
- 3:02Well, let's go back and celebrate The Beatles.
- 3:05So I think it will work. I know it's you introduce to say
- 3:08Paul McCartney's going to do that.
- 3:10He must have quite considerable backing to, to create this
- 3:14museum experience. But it's it's something I think
- 3:19that will be very popular because The Beatles remain
- 3:21popular for the cynical reasons I've just said.
- 3:25Well, I agree with you. And in my opinion, you know, by
- 3:29far they're they were probably one of the most creative bands
- 3:32of all time. And you know, ironically, as
- 3:35you've mentioned, you know, a lot of their songs in have
- 3:38endured both in singles and albums.
- 3:41Now, Sir Paul McCartney has told the media that he wanted fans to
- 3:44have an official Beatles destination but in London.
- 3:48And he said that tourists can come to England and they can go
- 3:50to Abbey Road. They can then go on inside and
- 3:53then go around to enjoy the rest of the the experience.
- 3:57I believe that the idea being is that as you go up to the
- 4:01rooftop, which is where they had their last concert, which
- 4:05certainly upset at the time in 1969, a lot of the police and it
- 4:09was actually curtailed ironically.
- 4:12But you as a member of public could be a beetle.
- 4:15So that's the idea is you becomes interactive.
- 4:18It is interesting that going to beetles, places where the
- 4:21beetles have done things, it can be almost like a spiritual
- 4:25pilgrimage people would make. Christians would make
- 4:28pilgrimages to pilgrimages to the Holy Land and to certain
- 4:32shrines in the country where religious things happen.
- 4:35I know in the the Muslim faith there is still the tradition of
- 4:39people making the big pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in a
- 4:45lifetime. And preferably you go there
- 4:47several times and go on your pilgrimage.
- 4:51This is like a spiritual pilgrimage going to be where
- 4:54this iconic, famous moment. I mean, at the time I think
- 4:59there were the police got involved because there were
- 5:01complaints about the noise when they performed on the roof.
- 5:04I think I rightly say that. But these days you're seen as
- 5:07sort of this great moment. And I think it the it's like a
- 5:11spiritual pilgrimage. But can the, I mean, a question,
- 5:16just a philosophical question, can it take the weight?
- 5:19I mean, where people wanting to have that spiritual experience,
- 5:23getting in touch with something with the greatness of The
- 5:26Beatles or the greatness of pop music, which may as have
- 5:28affected them deeply, you know, will it let them down
- 5:32ultimately? I don't know.
- 5:33It's just sort of a question to. Ask well, there is an irony in
- 5:36what you're saying here because John Lennon at the time in the
- 5:391960s famously said The Beatles have become more, more popular
- 5:43than Jesus Christ. And unfortunately, the time, the
- 5:46context at the context of the time, it, it was really taken
- 5:50out of context. But the point being is, of
- 5:52course, that's when they the whole thing turned in America.
- 5:56And of course they got into a lot of trouble.
- 5:58Now it's interesting, isn't it, that, you know, when we look at
- 6:01the the from an entertainment perspective, I think that people
- 6:06don't just listen to the music. I think that they also follow
- 6:10the brand. They follow the fashion because
- 6:13one of the things that, you know, Beatlemania offered was
- 6:17entertainment in many different ways.
- 6:19They inspired, you know, the flop top, mop top, haircuts.
- 6:23They then went on to obviously the flower power arena and many
- 6:26other different things. So it's interesting within a
- 6:28very short time frame between 1962 and 1970 when they were
- 6:32recording, that's when not only did the music, you know, change
- 6:37the world, but also some of the other things which was around
- 6:41the, the business side. Now, we know that the The
- 6:44Beatles over the years have had battlegrounds with, you know,
- 6:49the, the rights of royalties and many other things there.
- 6:53But in this particular case, I actually do agree that I think
- 6:56it's a very clever idea. Whether it will work and whether
- 6:59it will actually gain enough money over time, well, let's
- 7:03see. Time will tell.
- 7:04But I I'd ask you, Mr. Peed, why have it there?
- 7:09Why not necessarily? Why not have a museum in other
- 7:13parts? So here's an idea, folks.
- 7:15So here, let's ask support McCartney to come onto the onto
- 7:18the show. Why not have one at say in
- 7:21America, some of the last stadiums that they had the
- 7:24concerts there. Why not do some in Japan?
- 7:27Why not do some in Australia? They toured the world at the
- 7:30time. So why not have a, you know, a
- 7:32Beatles museum in in different countries?
- 7:36We can make. It.
- 7:37Tammania Land. Well, yes, why not?
- 7:40Why not Indeed. Yeah.
- 7:41So I, I mean, it's interesting, I was sort of asking the
- 7:45question earlier what it was of this, this spiritual experience
- 7:50of people getting in touch with music.
- 7:53I don't think it's in competition with Christianity or
- 7:56other religious experiences. I think what it is, is it's an,
- 8:00an innate desire to get in touch with greatness, not thinking
- 8:04that, you know, Paul McCartney as a St. or a great man or
- 8:08whatever it is. But it's the, it's that the way
- 8:11that the music touched them and affected them, as you say, made
- 8:14huge changes in society, but music changes people's lives and
- 8:19it's, it's like the soundtrack to important parts in their
- 8:22lives. So I, I, I, I don't see a
- 8:24problem with them doing that. It may be, but I think that
- 8:28maybe that that this particular choice of venue is the best
- 8:31because of that iconic performance on its very roof.
- 8:37You don't get that in the world. So I think that's why it seems
- 8:42to be a brilliant place, maybe bringing a few more tourists
- 8:45into Britain and boost our economy in these troubling
- 8:48times. Well, I agree with you.
- 8:50And now for a course for those who are really sick of the Sound
- 8:54of Music as it stands right now, why not simply TuneIn get a bit
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