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Cold Water, Mental Clarity, & Holistic Wellness w/ Debra from Outlive Labs | Ep 49 · The Driven Athlete

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  Speaker 1: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what this podcast is for you.
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Y'all?
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  Speaker 1: It's your man, dr Kyle.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a really cool guest with us, debra.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're a busy person running Outlive Labs.
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  Speaker 2: I am Super excited for you to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for asking me to join you.
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  Speaker 1: Totally.
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  Speaker 1: We wanted to dive in and learn more about what y'all do, so tell people what is Outlive Labs and where are y'all at.
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  Speaker 2: Outlive Labs is a peak performance and wellness studio in West Palm Beach and you know we've curated sort of the best modalities that we could find that will get us to that place every time we use them.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: So instead of just you know, maybe a lot of people will go to seminars and they'll do these deep dives, but then how do we take it home and make it accessible daily to get into that peak state?
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: I want that energy.
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  Speaker 2: I need that energy.
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  Speaker 2: How am I going to access that?
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  Speaker 2: Again?
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  Speaker 2: And we believe that's through these circuits and community and different events.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome Peak performance, right.
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  Speaker 1: What does that look like?
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  Speaker 1: Like what does that mean in the circuits you're describing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, great question.
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  Speaker 2: It's really just unlocking what our best pharmacy that is known to man, which is right in between our ears, right.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: So whenever we can unlock all of those endorphins and different interactions that our brain is having with our mind and with our body, we yes, we can get into peak state, and that's when we make the best choices about our life and about the things that, um, we need to do, the things that we're here to do and that we're called to do, and so it's different for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Really, it's going to be different for the elite athlete than it is for the mom.
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: That's maybe driving the elite athletes to practice taxi service.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we all need to be able to understand how to access it.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To then be a high performer in their own life, yes, whatever it calls for.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: The best pharmacy is between our ears right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right, 100% All the endogenous and leveraging all the endogenous neurotransmitters and hormones and chemicals that we can naturally yeah, what avenues do y'all do y'all do that?
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  Speaker 2: How do we do that?
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  Speaker 2: It's really, it's just greeting.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: It starts with how we greet the people that are coming through the front door and setting the expectation of you're going to feel amazing and we're going to uncover it and we're going to drop the barriers and we're going to play full out for this next 50 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to work out in our bathing suits, we're going to get in the hot, we're going to get in the cold, we're going to lift heavy things, we're going to assess posture, we're going to learn more about our bodies, we're going to jump around, we're going to play a lot and we're going to recover and we're going to put something together that makes you feel like you also have direction, should you choose to decide that this is the way you want to go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So developing a plan which.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine for you guys, unique for everybody different stages of life, different goals, different values.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: It's a blueprint, and some people will take to the contrast therapy a little more openly than others, and I always say, the more resistant you are to the cold, lucky you, because you're actually going to benefit even more from it.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, um, but yeah, it is different, it's different for everybody, and I think that's kind of the key is that it's for everybody and it's different for everybody and, um, but we all get to reach the same state at the end of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool yeah, which I imagine is a super great high performance, confidence right, a state of confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I heard from a mental health professional um, for athletes, or just people who need to perform for their job, their career, they want to, you know, be ambitious and drive goals and stuff Um, as in like, if somebody's struggling with their identity, how do you, how do you know who you are Right, how do you know what you like, what's the best, who are you as an identity?
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: As like an athlete?
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  Speaker 1: As an example, if you think about some athletes that they take on that characteristic and identity as the villain, they want to be booed.
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: They're going to play, they're going to trash talk, they're not dirty but they're just aggressive and they like that villain identity, right Versus other ones who are maybe not like that, you know, but like, how do you find that?
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  Speaker 1: And she was like well, what was I saying?
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  Speaker 1: And you tell me what you said, but what do you think she was like?
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  Speaker 1: When were you performing your?
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  Speaker 1: When you were performing your absolute best and you feel like you were the most effective, who were you then?
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  Speaker 1: That's your peak performing identity and I was like I like that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's observing it right.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: So we have to observe and connect with our heart is what I like to say.
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  Speaker 2: So if I'm connected with what's really going on with me and I'm observing when I'm the most fulfilled and doing the things that are the most exciting and I'm creating that, then that's just going to build and build and build more, and the same is true for the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: So it's so much about just capturing our thoughts and observing who we are in these moments, so that we can expand and grow in the right ways, rather than growing the things that we don't want to grow.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that I would imagine.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm interpreting that as in like, growing in a way that's not optimal for you would be fitting expectations of other people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be so many different things, expectations of other people.
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  Speaker 2: It could just be waking up and thinking I'm not enough and going into feeling scared or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: That spiral is that we all kind of battle, capturing those thoughts and saying I don't believe, that that's not true, the things that I'm thinking aren't always true and finding other avenues to build and grow.
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  Speaker 2: The other side, the side that's really what we're here, that we're called to do.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the healthy and growth version of yourself.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: And that really is what Outlive is all about is helping people understand how to do that process, you know, and so, yes, the modalities are there and they are all a significant part of it, because it has to be a physiological thing as well, like mind and body and soul.
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  Speaker 2: It's all interconnected.
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  Speaker 2: You can't really do one without the other, but I think when we have something that puts a short term stressor on us, and creates that variability and we're going in mindfully saying this is good for me, then we can overcome.
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  Speaker 2: the real stressors are not real, but you know the, the things that maybe we don't want to deal with, or the difficulties that that come along in a much smoother way because we're building that muscle and we're building it with community and we're building it and we're feeling good and it just that gain that gives us a certain kind of momentum that I think society is really craving right now.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: We're trying to find it in supplements or we're trying to find it in a certain gym routine or whatever different habits.
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: Bad diets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many different things, but it's really it's just all.
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: We have it all already.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: I think we unlock it better when we're in the right community and we have access to variability in terms of how we're using our body and approaching the day and breathwork is a big part of it too.
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  Speaker 2: The more I'm learning about that and the more that I'm using that in my own life instant state change, no matter where I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to ask about breathwork in a sec.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is is like use it, utilizing and leveraging these modalities to access the best pharmacy we can, with some awareness in that journey, to then have a better, uh, high performing state and identity that can be found and then grow into that.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, and have fun while you're doing it.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: Have fun while doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Associate this all with fun, Like our life really is our medicine.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: It's not in the things of it, you know, or in the yeah, it's not in the things.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: It's like finding more of the medicine in the life we're experiencing and creating this beautiful emotional home, rather, and and because that's where we all live, you know, we're all living right right here.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: And I can sit 24 hours a day, we're all living right here and I can sit here 24 hours a day.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can sit here and make that a really unpleasant place and thinking all of these negative things, or I can make it a really beautiful, exciting, fun place and guess what?
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Nothing on the outside of the world changes, but everything on the inside does, and then we begin to attract all of these beautiful relationships and business opportunities and callings and momentum.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: And that's when I've seen myself come alive in the last I mean over a period of time, but certainly within the last two years of crossing paths with the Morosco Forge have to give a shout out to their ice plunge game changer.
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  Speaker 2: Um, it brought me back to me and that's the way I made and the way that I responded to it was.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: It just woke me up.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: I can tell, I mean I can tell you're really enthusiastic.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: This is all because, like, and you believe in this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've always felt like the best way to to help attract the right people is just the conviction and belief behind what you already doing, and I can tell that in you the hardcore for sure, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So what were the things that led to that?
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: It was this experience, the cold punch experience you had with this.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: What led to me needing to find it.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, that, and then the motivation to do Outlive Labs.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: Um, so I've experienced, you know, like not just like everybody else, but I've experienced a lot in life and my kids are getting older and I experienced some big trials and I was in a place emotionally that I never thought I would see myself in, which is how, you know, I'm upset, I'm down about these things and where is my energy now?
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: How am I going to pick myself back up and find the thing I need to do and and be excited about it again?
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  Speaker 2: I know who, who.
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  Speaker 2: I've always been that and I've always been able to tap into that.
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  Speaker 2: Why can't I do it now?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go and take a pill.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to, you know, take on some sort of negative, addictive substance, you know, like drinking or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: So what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: What's calling me?
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  Speaker 2: And I had some really good friends in the health and wellness space.
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  Speaker 2: This is when Roscoe Forge came across, you know, came to me through a good friend of mine and I was called to it and I bought it sight unseen.
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  Speaker 2: I was like I think this is the way to go.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: I did some research and I'm hearing the feedback and getting in in that state where I didn't know, I just I had no idea how I was going to get myself out of this funk, and that's what worked.
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  Speaker 1: What was it?
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  Speaker 2: The getting in, the cold plunge and just even at 45 or 50 degrees initially, just to get in at that what now I consider to be a higher temperature, that is, cold lift to sort of remember who I've been, and it brought it to the present again so that I could begin the path.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I wasn't ready to just go and work out at the gym.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't ready to do some of the other things that I know in my mind would help me get to certain places, but I wasn't really convinced it would do what I needed it to do, and somehow the cold plunge is able to snap me out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Cool, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, 45 is cold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, now we're at 34, I think right now, on most days yeah.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, it's so good, oh my gosh, it's so amazing.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm an advocate, I like, like I always feel invigorated and like it's.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: It's super challenging and uncomfortable, totally.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Um, I haven't done it enough to get super familiar, like I'm not at that stage.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: So we're going to get you in and what I want to do is give you I want to give you a test.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: So when you walk in, I want you to tell me, like, how you're feeling, just about everything when you walk in.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: And then I want to take you through the circuit and then I want you to tell me how you're feeling at the end, okay, and then I want you to tell me how the rest of your day feels.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Okay yeah, good Challenge accepted.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: How do you?
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Uh, I've I've heard from a lot of people like, oh, I can't do cold plunges, I can't do it, you know.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Or like I just no, not my thing, this is very cold, averse to them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I don't think anybody should be coerced into doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's something you do with an open mind, because you want to challenge yourself, to be your best.
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  Speaker 2: So I would say, why are you here?
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  Speaker 2: Because I would imagine that they're probably at Outlive, feeling adverse about the cold.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Um, what I typically say is that you're lucky because you're going to get even more of a benefit of it.
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  Speaker 2: Um, and to just try it, you know, slip in, slip out, see how you feel.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: And um, it's not, you only have to benefit from it.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: So I've always felt something I tell myself.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: It's like you're not going to die, like what's the worst that's going to happen, like you're going to be very uncomfortable.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: And then you get out and then it goes away within 30 seconds.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: You can handle that.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, and that discomfort and that mental resilience that comes with putting ourselves in that discomfort is just such an amazing benefit.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of really great arguments and benefits from a psychology standpoint of like from all the professional not me, right, I'm not, that's not my thing Um, and then also guys like Wim Hof right, the Iceman we talked about before, um, the the willingness to purposely do uncomfortable things with yourself as in like a very hard workout.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: It's not exactly enjoyable when you're dying and like your muscles are burning and you're out of breath.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel good, but the willingness to put yourself there consistently ultimately leads to a lot of changes that happen in neurochemistry.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: And then similar thing with the cold plunge.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I totally agree with that Same benefits.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Well, there's stressors that build us and there's stressors that tear us down right.
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  Speaker 2: So going into the gym is an example of a stressor that's gonna build us.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: But if we have a stressor where we break something or we do something disastrous, then that's the type of stress that's gonna lay, lay us up and we're going to lose a lot of strength during that period of time.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: But I think looking at stress as something that's more neutral, it's not bad, or?
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: good.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's necessary.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: There is a necessary amount and the right amount of stress that is needed in order to challenge us and help us become stronger, and one of the things that we've done is we've, as a human race, is create this incredibly comfortable life.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: We're always striving for comfort, comfort, comfort, ease.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: We need everything easy.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: We need everything comfortable, and in doing that, we've just put ourselves in this diseased state, not just physically but mentally.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: And so we're wondering why, why, why am I feeling so crummy?
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: You know, I have money to pay my bills, everybody's fine, we're, we're all doing good, and yet I feel like crap.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: And so we have to then reach out and put ourselves in, take ourselves out of this comfort or complacency, and realize that putting ourselves in the right amount of stress is the key.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I totally agree with that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I heard recently with somebody.
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  Speaker 1: It was like imagine if there was someone being raised in an environment and there was no stress, all comfort, ease, no stress, everything given to them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I can picture those people.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like making passing judgment.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I can have pictured a person like that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you know very, we can, we can imagine what we're talking.
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  Speaker 1: You know just well off individuals that have well off lives and they end up not in good spots.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, on the opposite end, imagine if you were in a video, you were creating a human, and it was like I need, I would want this person to be high grit, high patience.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: You know great discipline and great mental resilience and emotional control in order to develop those character traits.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Can they develop those character traits in a very chill, non-stressful, comfortable environment?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Those character traits are built through fire.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you have to have suffering and struggle and discomfort in order to achieve those character traits.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: So, with that being said, then I'm like I can take it a step further.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Something challenging is coming into place, something unforeseen, very stressful.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Good, this is an opportunity to work on these character traits.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, perfect, this is what I needed.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: And it's like think and you know we can have look at adversaries or certain people or relationships that are challenging for us as an opportunity and even thank them, that are challenging for us as an opportunity and even thank them.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: So thank you for being so challenging on such a level that I am now forced to grow in a way that I wouldn't have without you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Otherwise yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And so it's an interesting way to look at it, and I still struggle with that at times because I'm like wait, I want to thank them, but that hurt.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: But no, but yes, but at the end of the day, I don't have to even figure out that argument, because I love who I am now.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That's huge.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And I love being able to share this from such an authentic place, and it's because of the experiences.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I've had, and you know it.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I think we, those things that were a challenge before, become our greatest strengths.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So and that's because we're focusing on the you know, because we had to.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, otherwise, what are the options?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Wallow and sadness.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: A lot of people choose that, and a lot of people choose those excuses and those things.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And and that's where that my demographic of people are the ones that are saying I'm you know, they could be just wanting to become a better version of themselves and be clearly on the path and have that clarity.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: But it could also be someone that's just stuck Like I know I want better, but I don't know what to do.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know where to start.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable in this place or this place.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: But I could I think I could give Outlive Labs a shot.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: We're just going to hang out in a sauna.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, the cold plunge Okay, yeah, I could do that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, a little bit of movement yeah, I could do that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And then wake, wake them back up.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And so there's highly successful people in this place and there's people that are just coming out of a, maybe a stage in life to where they feel a bit shattered or lost.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That could benefit from it as well.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: So that's why I say it really is for everybody that has that mindset of I'm going to be better because of this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe, I just don't know how.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: yet yeah, that's totally fine, and that there's a rush either, right as in.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Like you don't have to have the answers, like I know exactly what I want to be.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know yet, but I'm going to find out.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: We're all still finding it out, aren't we?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I hope I'm not the same person in 10 years from now that I am right now.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I hope I'm I'm different and better and wiser and stronger.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: That's a great.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to steal that, if that's okay.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, steal it.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Do you, do you want to be the same person you are right now in 10 years?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: No, yes or no?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Well, like, well sometimes, yeah, I mean I'm not condescending, but like if I'm asking somebody, you know that's, that's a great question, yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It's just self-reflect on.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't mean that we don't love where we are right now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Where we are right now, I hope I'm representing the best of who I can be right now, but I don't want that to be the same person.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way to put it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Even tomorrow.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: That's that peak state that we are going to outlive our limiting beliefs around health and aging and possibilities and all of it Like dare to dream, let's get bigger.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I think I also like and talking about Wim Hof and the extreme temperature change or contrast therapy, just things that are challenging and uncomfortable, that are difficult for anybody to purposefully put themselves into, knowing that there's going to be an outcome that might be greater than what I'm at currently.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: But anyway, like Wim Hof as an example I know you mentioned it with an extreme cold temperature exposure there's like a spike in dopamine of like 5,000% or something like that, Something crazy.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what the actual.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody really knows what the actual percentage is.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, but it's it's a lot, it's a lot.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: It's a huge spike.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: And it lasts, so it doesn't just spike for an hour, say, like some people that are looking for that through certain drugs.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That lasts a very short period of time and then you have that huge drop off.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So the benefit of the ice is that you get it and it lingers without that drop off.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: And then imagine leveraging that with.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I know exercise has also been found to be a huge benefit with that, and they're like good stressors at the same time.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Um, with the cold right, or hot, conscious, not hot, but just like a sauna contrast.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Um, but consistently, um, oh, but back to back for five days a week, three days a week over the period of like six months.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I imagine there'd be significant changes that would happen if someone were to undergo that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, so, um, as of September 21st, outlive will have new hours and a whole program around that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: So, actually, when I said I want to monitor, like, how you're feeling at the beginning and how you're feeling at the end, we're also going to be monitoring all these different changes that you experience, say, over even three months I don't even think you need six months would be great.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Then it's a habit, then you're doing it, it's set.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: You're set for life.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: But even give me three months of four days a week and go through this and I want you to monitor, like for me, after getting out of the cold plunge.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not a runner, I don't like running, but I make myself do it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: The run I have after the cold plunge is completely different than doing it without.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: My breathing is not as heavy, it just feels easier and lighter, and I know I can do it even though I'm still in the same body.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: But it just feels completely different.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: And so many people are having this experience where you're getting, because of that dopamine, you're getting the ability to have this better workout.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: So then you're going to see this better results too, not just in your muscles and in your breathing, but also in your function in all of life.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And it's really it's like a switch just turning that switch on, but you have to keep doing it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Right, I love that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: It's so exciting.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I can tell you, this is good.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like ah, energy, we have to learn how to tap into it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: The tough thing was, like a contrast to what I'm gauging from you right now is, like imagine somebody who has ailments going on and they go to the doc and the cardiologist walks in and this individual is overweight, doesn't look like they exercise, they're not super enthusiastic about their job at this point because they're pretty busy.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Like that doesn't convey the same message that I'm hearing right now from you, like there's the, the conviction and the enthusiasm is gone for that individual and they don't look like they're actually investing in their own advice.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Right, there's a disconnect.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: There is such a disconnect and what I would say to that person is, if you're depressed about being in that situation and you feel like you're in a continual cycle and you're not sure how to break it, I would say just come.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: If you're a local, come and sit with me at the biocharger and which is another amazing platform that we have and let your body get recharged naturally just from that energy, and then allow yourself to get into the sauna, and then you're going to get that nice, warm and everything's moving and you're detoxifying.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And in your mind already at that point you know you're doing these good, healthy things.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And then you're going to get that nice, warm and everything's moving and you're detoxifying.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: And in your mind already at that point you know you're doing these good, healthy things.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And then you're like, ok, wait, I'm feeling maybe I will try that crazy cold plunge.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: She says blah, blah, blah, all these wonderful things about it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll just try it and they try it, and then they feel amazing and then they're able to do whatever they can do in the workout.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, um, even if it's just jumping around or doing some walking, lunges or stretching, you know, let me look at your posture and point some things out that you might want to.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: You know, think about, or Brett, and the breath is such a huge piece.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about breath work.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: What do you, what do you mean by that?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: What's your, what's your?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: it's the building block of life, obviously, right so, and and we take it for granted and just it because it's keeping us alive.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Obviously, throughout the day we're just having these little short sips of bursts of air, but if we used it as a powerful tool, that that it can be used as it, it's an instant state change when we're supplying all of that oxygen to our blood and getting it moving in our brain.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: We don't have to go for that long run to get that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Like you can do it sitting in a chair every day wake up and do a certain series of breath Just to invigorate yourself and and capture those thoughts and move forward.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of more what I'm talking about.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It's more of a performance based.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: There's also some really cool stuff where you experience almost, like I want to say, hallucinogenic effect from it and there's breath holds and different things that you can do, and it's a whole experience just in and of itself.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And there's breath holds and different things that you can do, and it's a whole experience just in and of itself.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Mine is more like for a training purpose.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I really want to get you into a heightened state of mind, and a positive heightened state of mind.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: By using it yeah, that's awesome.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: And that's a big deal.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: when you're in the cold as well, you have to get the breath work Strategies for people that they're very uncomfortable never done it before.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: They're not hyperventilating, but it's like.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: They would.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So I talked to everybody for a few minutes before we get in and I just kind of walk them through what to expect.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You know, especially for men, the more fit they are if they've never done it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: There's this gasp like I'm gonna die.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, get me out of here.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Like you know, just like a cat trying to get out of the tub or whatever, you know, they're just like they can't get out of there fast enough and it's that breath.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So I just I teach it from a mental standpoint.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: So this is our opportunity to understand that we're in control of the body and we're going to do that by breathing.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: And so we do a slow inhale through the nose and then hold just for a second or two, and then a slow exhale out the mouth, hold, but it's all about you in charge of that, and that sounds like such a simple thing to do, but it's such a difficult thing to do in that situation, yeah, freaking out.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And I just love watching people transform as they do it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: So some people will get in for like 20 seconds, oh wait, and they jump out.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wait, I'm still alive.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I'm still, I'm here.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Ok, I'm alive.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I'm alive.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Can I try it again?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, sure, try it again.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: And I have people that'll go in that same session up to five minutes the first time in 34 degree water, and the breath work is good and that everything is beautiful.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And there's just.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: This happened last week actually, and this one girl was sure she couldn't do it and she got to five minutes and I could just see this whole serene calmness over her.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Um, it's a really neat thing to witness people transform right, right in front of you.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, certain that she couldn't do it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: She was certain yeah, no way, I can't do it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Nope, 20 seconds, that's all.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to do it because my friends are here.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: It was a big group of people and that is a huge part of it as well, and, if I may say, why I chose to build Outlive this way as opposed to as more of a spa like environment, was because I see people doing things that they wouldn't normally do if it was just them, behind closed doors, with a, even with one person, and all of that ice Like it's intimidating and but first, whenever there's all kinds of people around you could know them.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you could not know them, but you're watching people go through this and you're seeing the benefits and they're getting hyped and everybody's excited to be there.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Then then they know that they can too do it because they're watching it happen.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: So it's such a powerful thing.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Energy exchange.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's cool.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted to break down those barriers that people can have.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Walking into a spa, which you know it's great, there's just time and a place for that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Walking into a spa, which you know it's great, there's just time and a place for that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: But this is just leave your um limiting beliefs at the door and let's just play full out for an hour.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember saying like um your guys' culture, right?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's like we're out here in bathing suits.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Everybody's just just hanging out, run, run, exercising.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Get in the hot tub.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: People are cheering other people on, like or just good energy.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're like dropping the ego at the door.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, just be you.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Just be you, um, and celebrate who you are and who you are becoming and that fact that you're showing up for yourself and wanting better for yourself.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: And, um, it's something that very a small percentage of people will do, and so a lot of people when they're scared of getting in the cold.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I'll also say congratulations.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: You're one of the very small percentage of people that would even go this far, so you're already benefiting just by challenging yourself and considering doing it, and then they're like oh yeah, I am.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Okay let me take.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe I could take one more step, Maybe just one.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Let me just dip my toe in there.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Let's put a foot in.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: That'd be it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: All right, five minute foot plunge, we'll do that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, we'll start again.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: No coercion at all.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: It's always.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: People need to know that they're in complete control of the experience.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I can guide them on what I think would be best for them and the experience that I think they would want to feel by doing it a certain way, but we all have a different blueprint.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: You know what some people can get in and do three minutes right away, having never done it before, and then other people and it has nothing to do with that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I've been able to discern shape or size or male or female, maybe a little bit of those things, but it's really is the mindset.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I could totally get behind that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to get you in there.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I'm excited 34.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I'm certain I can't do it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: It's like ha, I have something for you that's awesome.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So you mentioned, like you, you gained the confidence to be able to do this.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like to to to start, Outlive Labs and take this journey.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Move from San Diego to here.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by the confidence to do that?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Um, great question.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So when I started, I wasn't sure where or what I was going to do with this next chapter of my life.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: My kids have grown, they're out of the and my son is two and we're expecting one in November.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine my daughter being 22 years old.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, it breaks my heart thinking about that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, enjoy every moment, but you know what?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You just fall in love with them even more every day, through every stage.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: My mom would always say that she'd be like, just wait, every stage there's just it's a different kind of of love and it it grows deeper.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Um, because you get to see them going and accomplishing amazing, beautiful things, and there's just so much fulfillment in that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: But so when I moved to Florida, I was like, how am I going to cold plunge every day?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: There is no cold plunge anywhere that I wanted to do plunge every day.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: There is no cold plunge anywhere that I wanted to do, at least in West Palm, because I just the Morosco is the only way to go, in my opinion, because it's the only one that makes ice.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It's the only one that, um, cleans and purifies the water the way that it does.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Um, it's got a grounding effect, um, because of the way it's built.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And so I knew I was bringing my Morosco here, but I wasn't sure exactly what I was going to do and how am I going to use it?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Where am I going to put it?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I don't have a yard.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And thus began the journey of just exploring that, and I didn't have the confidence at first.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: And even I knew what I wanted to do.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I knew the message was in there, but I hadn't verbalized it yet.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And so I've been discovering and uncovering that with myself over these last two years, and then edified in that by seeing people's reaction and responses to it and seeing how much of a need there is for it and it just it goes so much more um beyond the physical, um.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: It's touching each other in a way that has a lasting emotional effect and that's where the confidence comes from.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Just in doing it scared.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Doing it totally scared.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, I love that.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I heard that a time, like one time recently, um, and it was like like just do it scared, like you don't have to not be like.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Courage isn't the absence of fear, yes, it's the action despite the presence of fear.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: yeah, and just doing it anyway, and just okay, be scared, just do it scared like what if firefighters didn't run into the house with all the training that they've had because they were scared?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah they have all the training like nope not allowed to because I'm scared right now.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: What does do it scared?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: And I found too that that's why training in all of these different ways mentally and physically and spiritually is so important to do when we're feeling good about life, because that's building that muscle in the good time is what gets us through, determines how we get through the difficult times.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: So the tendency is to let off the gas a little bit and coast, because life is good, and if we do that then the storms that come are going to be harder.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: It's a great point To manage.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It's all part of that mental resiliency and creating that variability in our workouts and our routines and knowing that we're stronger than protocol.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Through your journeys and stuff.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Where did you gather all this wisdom?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, over years and years and years, wanting to have better for myself and wanting to be a leader for my family, and knowing that there is no other way that would be acceptable for me to live life.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: And so it was just this passion that I have to have it for myself.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And then, in seeing people around me and understanding there's so many that also desire it and we desire that community, and I thought, well, if I build it, I think they'll show, you know, like there's so many people out there that want it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think the other, the community, being yourself growing like that in a non, in a nonjudgmental atmosphere, you know the fear of like well, I got to keep it together.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: You know I got to have, I got to keep it together.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: You know I gotta have, I gotta keep it together.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I gotta get a good persona kind of maintained you know, or showing weakness.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Right, do you see that?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: People showing weakness.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Or just like the, the difficulty of one of being vulnerable.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, oh yeah.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Um, well, oh yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Well, personally I am a I live pretty vulnerably.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Authenticity is something that it's saying we're not selling anything other than a mindset and like a lifestyle, a way of wanting to be in community, share where we've been or where I've been, and that it hasn't always been pretty and that I've been unconfident about where it is and I didn't know what I was doing.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And then now how do I know what I'm doing?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I know it because of I've been showing up and I've been doing those things.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I've been showing up and I've been doing those things and so now I have the confidence to bring it to other people because I have done that research and been open about it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: But I see people opening up a lot in the cold plunge.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: It brings forward a lot of emotion, yeah, and so they'll see.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I'll see some people like cry or there's yet anger.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Um, especially with people struggling with PTSD, it'll be some anger and panic and fear, and none of it is real in terms of their environment hasn't changed.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: You know that there's nothing scary it's.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I always say I'm like it's just cold water.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Just cold water.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point, that's a did that answer your question?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so Totally, that's awesome.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, vulnerability is a is a tough one.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but I love the.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's just cold water, yeah, but also like I like what you um, if the PTSD not my realm, by any means, right PTSD or people getting heightened emotions during the this cold plunge experience, right, like your perceived danger is actually not accurate.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Correct, like there's actually.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: No, your perceived danger is different than the actual danger which can be managed.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: And okay, that's the case, and it the case.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: And it's a mental problem, it's a mental experience Response.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: It's a mental response.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been forged for good reason.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it did keep us safe in those certain situations when we needed to use it, and then those of us that are managing that now are like.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: For me personally, I had no idea all the different ways that I was always in a fight or flight response always To me.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Now, looking back, I could see where that was so much the case and I couldn't even understand it until I started to regulate my system and allow myself to just be, and that's what the breathwork and the hot and the cold and the movement in this very safe environment has allowed me to explore and um and recognize, even though it's not a fun thing to recognize or it's not something that I really want to be like proud of having had or having had to deal with, but it's such a powerful thing to be able to observe the changes.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks, um for your own sharing for people, right?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Just um shedding light and encouraging people for your own nutrition, right?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: So we mentioned this for the physical components and some fitness.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Right For your own nutritional habits.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: What do you feel like you would recommend?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: How do you navigate your own nutrition?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's such a great question and I think it's so different and yet also the same building blocks, right.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: So we have to hydrate with good water, just good, healthy, clean water, and whatever nutrients that you know we need to get electrolytes and that type of thing, but I think that's such a cornerstone and nutrient dense foods.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I believe in whole foods and organic foods and eating.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I don't trust anything that didn't have a mother or come from the earth, you know.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: So those are kind of the two things that I've found for me.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have certain restrictions and different things that they have to do to maybe reduce inflammation.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I don't restrict myself to a point of stress about it because I think being um, living joyous and free in in that, knowing that I'm doing all of the things to take care of myself and love myself, is ultimately what um reaps the most reward, and they found that in blue zones as well.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: When they did, they studied um what do the most reward?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And they found that in blue zones as well.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: When they did, they studied um what do they call them Super agers all around the world and all these different blue zones.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: What they found is that it wasn't their diet specific?
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: There was no specific diet.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: In other words, it wasn't a lack of meat, you know, not eating meat, or even not drinking alcohol.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Um, it was an organic wine maybe that they drank, or it was organic foods that they were eating.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: But the biggest, the one main thing was community.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: So if they had a sense of purpose and they had community, they're aging well and happily, as you know, over a hundred years old, and so I think we have to concern ourselves less with some of that.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: We also have to understand the environment.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: We're in the environment, we're in with the government, and the way that our food is being processed is not to make us healthy.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: So we need to understand that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: If we understand that basic and then move forward, I think we're fine.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: We're on the same page with that.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's really cool right now, like obviously it's a very hot political climate right now, but um, I I definitely agree with that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Like uh man, I could go all day about it yeah, Tell me but just just like the uh the cycle of um purposefully maintaining a high inflammatory state systemically.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: And then uh, the consumption of of media and of content that enhances our consistent fight or flight uh states continually great recipe and the food not going to facilitate any help.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and then, uh easy solution is uh pharmaceutical which are designed to create lifetime customers, not help provide solutions.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Correct Times 50 years, like by the time someone's 63, like what's that look like?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: It looks like I saw this statistic this morning.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I want to say it was like 85% of people over 60 are all on at least one pharmaceutical and I think that's probably very generous.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I just I agree with that generous number.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I just disagree with the notion of like well, you have to be on this med forever.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Like no, don't tell me what to do.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Number one like I don't trust you.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Number one.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Number two like why, right, there's plenty of people that have gotten off meds.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: There's plenty of people that don't take any meds.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: It's just a matter of choosing.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: That you know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people that have used the ice plunge and have seen those outcomes for themselves as well, where they were told, for a thyroid issue or some autoimmune disease, that they were going to have to do something or take something for a year or for life.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: And now, and they're not now, and it's simply that lowering that inflammation it's slow, slowing tumor growth.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: It's so many amazing things.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Something else that well, on that same note, it's interesting as, like I see this as I mean, who knows if I'm accurate on this, but it seems like and everyone has their own situations and I don't know everybody, I'm not an allopathic medical expert by any means Right Like IBS, crohn's, thyroid issues, type 2 diabetes, for sure, all of those things it seems like, can be purposefully manifested and fostered with a lifestyle that includes the nutritional stuff we were talking about.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: And then pharmaceuticals, fight or flight, continual states, everything's inflamed, everything's heightened and inflamed and it just leads to a systemic reaction by our physiology and our bodies that then just create these issues.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: And then they swoop in and say don't worry, we have a vaccine for you, don't worry, we have a pharmaceutical for you, we got it, just give us your insurance card, you're taken care of.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Don't deal with the things that are allowing you to go into these habit-forming behaviors of reaching for the wrong food or just because there's really no excuse anymore.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Information is everywhere.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a matter of choosing to believe it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, diving into it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: But the proof is in the pudding.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Like, we see people that are living well, we see people that are living happy lives, and there is pretty much a recipe to it, you know, and there's variances within that, but there's certain building blocks in place, you know, and I think the biggest one is capturing our thoughts.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: When we're capturing any sort of false thoughts or false feelings that we're experiencing and turning them into the truth and understanding that our feelings aren't always working in our favor.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: That that's the first step to understanding who we really are and what we're capable of.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, I love that.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Pain science is another big topic where you know what we're capable of.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Um, I, yeah, I love that.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Uh, pain science is another big topic.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like we've delved in some um and then also um.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about pain science in a second, but the recipe for here.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: It was a cool um neuroscientist that I heard that her presentation on something and it was like what their studies are finding for the fountain of youth, which is six things and I want to hear what your opinions are on this.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: But she she was describing um like for longevity and maintaining cognitive sharpness for as long as possible.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's a combination of exercise, like fitness, purposefully introducing physical stress to your body.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: That's a benefit.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Um nutrition, which looks like not processed refined sugars, processed carbs, um alcohol, smoking stuff, like that.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: So a good nutrition habit.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Um sleep, quality sleep, huge stress management, which I think cold point exactly exactly outlive lab cold punch, check off that box.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Um, which I think is probably the most undervalued one.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: That I think is a part of like overall longevity and health is just stress management.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: That's my opinion.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: And that's a multifaceted approach too right Like it's the cold plunge in my experience it's the cold plunge was what helped me.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: But the community that's around that, that when we have that person that we're coming home to, but the community that's around that, that when we have that person that we're coming home to in the evening and we get that hug, like what type of that stress management?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: So, and we're so isolated now go ahead.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Well, the fifth one I say is that the fifth one was meaningful social engagement, which is a community of people that are like-minded, that you, you like, and you have legitimate um relation, vulnerable relationships with um, not just, you know, superficial top layer, and everyone's got to be done up and like a certain um persona you got to maintain.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: And then the last sixth one is, um, uh, mentally challenging activities which stimulate, mentally stimulating activities, which she described as not crossword puzzles, right, and I was like huh, it was just saying it was like it's a create new synapses, new pathways of learning, which would be like learning a new language, like things that would be hard, where it's like I spent an hour trying to learn this thing and I wasn't.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: It was hard, I'm trudging through the mud and I couldn't figure out.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I'm drained right now.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: It's like that stuff it's so good and we know, it, we know it when we experience it exactly right.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that then I was like darn it, you're totally right I thought I was doing it with just this my sunday morning crossword puzzle exactly I'm not a crossword puzzle guy.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I'm never good at those.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: It's just not my.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know I'm not good at but then that might be really good for your brain, could be.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess what she was saying was not crossword puzzles, as in if you're really good at crossword puzzles, people naturally gravitate towards the things they're naturally good at.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And just doing more of the same thing, you're learning the same things over and over again and that's not creating new synapses.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: So maybe for someone like me I'm not good at crossword frozen that would be a benefit and a mentally stimulated activity.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: But in general she was like uh, stuff like learning a new language or a new instrument or, um, new math skills that you're not good at, algebra, like whatever you know.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Well, and math is a language.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: So my grandfather was such an amazing role model for me.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: So he passed away just before 100 years old, like just a few months before 100.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: He was not on any medicine, he had no disease, it was just he was his time to go.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I think he used a walker maybe the last few months of his life, but he was always very independent, and so I look at him as a role model and I think what were the things that he did?
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: So he was also a pastor, so he had a very faith filled life.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: He prayer and meditation was his building block, as well as eating, you know, I think the foods they had access to back then and my family is also Greek, so there's a lot of just good whole foods and and so that was there, and so we have faith and we have the food and the community that came around.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: That his sense of purpose and what he provided the people around him was such a a loving message.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: It was not done in a judgmental way, it was he just wanted to share with people that God loves you, you know, and it was such a beautiful way.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Also, the other part for the mental aspect was that or and the brain aspect was he would study Greek and Hebrew and translate words and and different things, Cause he really wanted to understand the actual meeting.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: He didn't want someone else to tell him what something meant.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: He wanted to dig in and figure it out, and I think that kept the brain going.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: And he was also very physical as well.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Um, just you know running and gardening and swimming and all of those things, and it's so.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I've seen it lived out and I think that's where a lot of my personal um vigor comes from, for my belief in all of this is because I've seen it.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I've seen it work how it works.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: That's awesome and I think proof like you don't, you'd be almost a hundred and not be on 15 meds.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: You know that are just counteracting each other.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: So amazing.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, and that was before anybody was talking about any of this, and so to have experienced it beforehand, and then look back and go wait a minute.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: It has to be real because I've seen it.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: That's really cool, I love that.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And also well, also, I'm going to say is uh, things could be definitely taken out of translation.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I, in my it's just my opinion again you know I think it was really cool that he was diving into the different language barriers and trying to figure out a translation on its own.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Uh, cause, things are definitely, in my opinion, can be easily taken out of translation.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, taken out of context.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Then therefore out of context.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: And he would say that all the time.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: He's like, if it doesn't make sense, then it's probably more of a prose type of position, you know, as, as it relates to faith and religion and and those types of books that we read around, that you know, the, in my case, would be the Bible, and he was like you know, when God said he owns a thousand hills, he didn't mean that he only owned, you know, it was it's.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: We know when we're reading poetry and prose and we know when we're not, and so he's like apply your brain to understand the logic.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little more metaphorical.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, representations, yeah, yeah, totally.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: And it's okay, and also like utilizes some kind of moral high ground that is leveraged on purpose, which is like a self-esteem issue, and I'm like, okay, then let's dive into that.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Then, if that's the actual problem, yeah, that's just.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: And I just think like, like focus on loving each other right and letting people be where they are, Cause really we can only be where we are.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a silly thing to say, but I can only be where I am, you can only be where you are and we can have a certain mindset that allows us to receive new information.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Hopefully that's the key, but, um, having more grace for where people are and just letting them be and accepting them in all of it and I think that was an important part of Outlive for me as well is, I didn't want to exclude anybody based on, like, a certain level of physical acumen.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I wanted there to be something for everybody.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: The only requirement was really mindset and the desire to be better.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's cool, I like that.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: So where can people find you, like?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Where?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Tell everybody again where you're located and how they can reach out?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: So right now, my I like to call it my incubator space.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I've been incubating for the last year.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I'll be opening formally September 21st.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Um, West Palm beach by Grandview market.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Um, we're in a warehouse style, just open setting and it's kind of indoor, outdoor palm trees.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's where we've chosen to be for now.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: More locations coming soon, I believe.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, Cool yeah.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: How can they reach out to you?
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: The best way would be my website.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: So either through outlivelabscom or you can reach me.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have a phone number.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: My Instagram account, as well as outlive underscore labs, or yeah, no, I have.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: My number for the business line is 954-3445.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, now, I messed that up.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: We'll put it on 954-335-5444.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, no, totally understandable.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I know exactly where you're at with that.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: That was the same boat.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: There's so many things to know and do and remember.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming out.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing all your insights and some of your history and, like your motivations and stuff, and what Outlive Labs does and how they can help people.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you too, y'all's methodology.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you too, kyle.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure meeting you and seeing what you guys are doing here as well, and hope to collaborate more as we both kind of develop and become better versions of ourselves.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to come by and challenge myself with this 34 degree water.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: It's just cold water Relax.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just cold water.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming in.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if y'all have any questions, we're always open to comments, questions concerns conflicting opinions, ideas for topics or stuff we can talk about or get guests on board and stuff opinions, ideas for topics or stuff we can talk about or get guests on board and stuff and any questions about like any pain, like joint orthopedic, sports, physical therapy type things that we can help you out with.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Definitely always reach out.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: We're always open to at least having a conversation and see how we can help you or send you the right direction.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: So definitely tune in and we'll catch y'all next time.