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Faith Builders with Host Trisha and Mickey Ep#004- Don't Be Distracted pt4! · One Voice Many Conversations

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SPEAKER_00: Hello, everyone.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome in and welcome back to another episode of Faith Builders.
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SPEAKER_00: I am Mickey, and with me I have Trish, and we are your hosts today.
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SPEAKER_00: And we are two great friends, two sisters in Christ that just love to talk about the Bible.
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SPEAKER_00: We love to talk about the Word of God.
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SPEAKER_00: And what else we like to do is to share the love of Jesus with everyone so that we can not only work on building our own faith, but build the faith of others.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's what this podcast is all about.
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SPEAKER_00: And today we're going to kind of dive right back in to the series that we've been on.
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SPEAKER_00: We've been talking about distractions lately.
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SPEAKER_00: And it seems like there's a lot of them, especially in the world we're living in today.
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SPEAKER_00: So today we're going to recap a little bit about where we left off.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to let Trish take the wheel and have let her have um, she's got a lot to share with you today.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Just going to let her go at it so she can dive right in because we have a full plate of information that we want to share, and we have lots of scripture to go over with you today.
0:57
SPEAKER_00: Trish, how are you doing?
0:59
SPEAKER_01: Hi.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: So um about Erin and the golden calf.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: So there's a little bit more deeper into Aaron.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, so he we established last time that he used a graven tool to fashion this golden calf.
1:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I looked up graven tool, and a tool, this is a tool that's used for carving, cutting, engraving, designing.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's the same thing that we do, like what we said last time, you know, to make something, to create something.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: Now, this specific tool was used for metal, wood, or stone.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so keyword stone, let's keep that in mind.
1:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, it uh also in another version is this molted calf, which if you think about molting, like snakes, they shed their skin, that's a form of molting.
1:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh, birds, they shed their feathers and then they grow them again.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: That's another form of molting.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, but it also can mean to pour into something and pour to pour it into a molted shape.
2:03
SPEAKER_01: So I'm wondering if they used a cow to shape this golden calf, right?
2:10
SPEAKER_01: Like a, you know, did they take one of their calves and molt the gold all over it and kill a cow?
2:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know, just how my mind thinks, right?
2:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know for sure.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: I I was looking for it to find out what it was for sure, but it it was a mold they used to pour in.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: But he also it also says he used a graven tool.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: So um basically they had to prepare the materials, gather the materials, cut it out of into a shape, uh, melt the metal, pour it, add the details, cool it, finish it, dry it, display it.
2:47
SPEAKER_01: This is what they did.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: And then Aaron's like, whoa, look at what we did.
2:51
SPEAKER_01: And then he built this altar.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:54
SPEAKER_01: So they have a request for leadership, the people did.
2:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, they had them, they got the materials, it was a process, and the outcome led to idolatry, worship, or apostasy.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: So apostasy in the church is abandonment of one's religious faith, political party principles, or cause.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: So have you ever heard bad company corrupts good morals?
3:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, obviously, they were bad company to Aaron because Aaron just kind of peer pressured into it, right?
3:32
SPEAKER_01: And um so then there's there's an identity here, right?
3:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, they and then there's your first fruits, uh, the fruits of the spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, if you're gonna be a leader, you don't want to be somebody that's um diving into apostasy and abandoning your faith and abandoning what you know, abandoning your first fruits.
4:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, um, my friend, I have a friend of mine, uh Judy, who says, You gotta give God your best.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: No matter what you do, you give him your first.
4:11
SPEAKER_01: And I've been thinking about that lately.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, do I always give God my first?
4:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, and you know, we we also talked about Adam and Eve, how they failed the real, they had this relationship, they left their covering, they separated themselves from God.
4:27
SPEAKER_01: They, you know, so this is another one.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: And then Mary Martha, Mary at Martha's feet, or no, Mary at Jesus' feet, and Martha was working so hard to be seen by people.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: And Peter, he had faith.
4:43
SPEAKER_01: He started out getting on the water, but oh of little faith, he started to sink.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we we all can start out strong sometimes, but then we can sink.
4:55
SPEAKER_01: And um, there are a lot of people in the Bible, there's many, many people.
5:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I would like to talk about God's finger.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so God's finger versus the tool that Aaron used.
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SPEAKER_01: So we can find the finger of God in the Bible, and this is God's tool.
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SPEAKER_01: He uses his finger to write his words.
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SPEAKER_01: So, and he uses his finger to do things.
5:27
SPEAKER_01: So the first time it's recognized is in Exodus 8 and 9.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, the magicians of the Pharaoh.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: So the magicians of the Pharaoh, they were, I'm just gonna paraphrase this.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, they said, This is the finger of God, but the pharaoh's heart was darkened.
5:45
SPEAKER_01: So the reason why they said this is the finger of God is because Aaron, here we got Aaron again.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: He had used his staff and he had um hit the ground, and gnats and basically lice were getting all over the people.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: They were coming from the dust of the earth.
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SPEAKER_01: And this was to mock one of the gods that they were praising in that time.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you want to go back to Exodus 8 on through, or actually even before that, and read about the plagues, there are many plagues in the Bible that God was mocking.
6:24
SPEAKER_01: But this particular one, this is where even the magicians who tried to conjure up lice and and gnats, and they couldn't do it.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: So then they were telling Pharaoh, look, hello, this is the very finger of God.
6:40
SPEAKER_01: So there's one point with the finger of God.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: So the next point I wanted to make with the finger of God is right in the time that Aaron is having this graven tool, he has this graven tool, and then he is, you know, um making stuff.
7:04
SPEAKER_01: Moses is on the mountain talking to God, and he was gone for a while.
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SPEAKER_01: So it starts out with the there's a first set of tablets written, and it's written by the finger of God.
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SPEAKER_01: And this would be in Exodus thirty-one.
7:32
SPEAKER_01: It starts out, you know, okay, Exodus thirty-one.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: It's uh in this verse eighteen, is he says, and he gave Moses when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai the two tablets of testimony, tablets of stone written with the finger of God.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: So here we are.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, if you look back, where what is a graven tool?
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SPEAKER_01: It's something to use metal, wood, or stone.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's what a graven tool is used.
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SPEAKER_01: But God used his very own finger to write uh the testimony for the people.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: So then going forward in oh, I'm sorry, let me reframe.
8:30
SPEAKER_01: That was Exodus 31, 18.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: Exodus 31, 18.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: So then we go to Exodus 34, chapter 1, and then it says, the Lord said to Moses, cut for yourself two tablets of stone like the first, and I will write on the tablets the words that were were on the first tablets, which you broke.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: So basically he's gonna do it again, and he told him, You broke it.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: Now I gotta do this again.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: So I I find that interesting that God is using his very own finger to write out the scriptures, and you know what he wanted to be what he wanted to be said.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: Um there's also another scripture in I don't know if I put it in there.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: Um it's Exodus 24, 12, which was beforehand.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: It says, Um, now the Lord said to Moses, Come to me to the mountains and remain there, and I will give you stone tablets with the law of the commandment which I have written for their instruction.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: So he already wrote it down, basically, is what he was saying.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: And there's one little scripture I thought was cute.
9:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's Psalm 8 3.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: It says, When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have ordained.
10:10
SPEAKER_01: That's just a little side one.
10:12
SPEAKER_01: I didn't put that in there, but that's Psalm 8.3.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: So I was just looking up the finger of God and different, you know.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: Um now let's go forward to uh Daniel.
10:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh Daniel chapter five and um verse five.
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SPEAKER_01: It says, Suddenly the finger of a man appeared, emerged, and began writing opposite to the lampstand of the plaster of the wall of the king's palace.
10:49
SPEAKER_01: And the king saw the back of the hand that did the writing.
10:55
SPEAKER_01: So what was written is in verses uh Daniel 5, 24 through 28.
11:02
SPEAKER_01: It says, Then the hand was sent from him, and on this inscription was written out.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: Now, this is the inscription that was written out, and it was min, I don't know how to say it.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how to say it, but this is the interpretation.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: God has numbered the kingdom.
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unknown: Okay.
11:34
SPEAKER_01: God has numbered your kingdom and put it to an end.
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SPEAKER_01: You have been weighed on the scales and found deficient or found wanting.
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SPEAKER_01: Your kingdom has been divided and given over to the Medes and the Persians.
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SPEAKER_01: So immediately after that he was slain.
11:53
SPEAKER_01: So um he didn't repent, you know, obviously, and this is King Balshar.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know, can you say it better?
12:02
SPEAKER_00: It's Belshazzar.
12:03
SPEAKER_01: Belshazzar, yeah.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: Belshazzar.
12:05
SPEAKER_01: Belshazzar.
12:06
SPEAKER_01: So King Belshazzar um was after King Nebuchadnezzar.
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SPEAKER_01: King Nebuchadnezzar was an arrogant man, but at least he repented, right?
12:15
SPEAKER_01: After he was in the wilderness and everything.
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SPEAKER_01: But this king did not.
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SPEAKER_01: His heart was hard, and you see this throughout the whole Bible.
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SPEAKER_01: You see the hardenings of the heart.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: And um in Ezekiel, it says that he will take out the heart of um stone and give you a heart of flesh, and you know, we will be his.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: So 31 33, it says, but this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after all those days, says the Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: I will put the law in their minds and write on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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SPEAKER_01: Very similar to what it says in Ezekiel, actually.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: And then going to Jeremiah 17, it talks about the sin of Judah.
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SPEAKER_01: And he says, the sin of Judah is written with a pen of iron and with the point of a diamond.
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SPEAKER_01: It is graven upon the tablet of their heart, upon their horns of their altars.
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SPEAKER_01: And I believe that's a place of worship, the altars.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, my words were written with a pen of iron.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: So the image of sin in Jeremiah is it's basically that's where it switches over from God writing out our God writing us out or fashing us to our sin actually being written on us.
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SPEAKER_00: Because if we live in our sin um and we dwell in that place long enough, um the sin is actually going to be, you know, written out in our hearts.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So, you know, God writes things on the tablet of our heart, but you know, it's up to us to allow the pen of iron or the you know graven tool that shapes our heart.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, what graven tool in your life are you allowing in?
14:42
SPEAKER_01: What is the graven tool?
14:44
SPEAKER_01: And we talked about the the deadly sins.
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SPEAKER_01: We've talked about, you know, what is it that's hindering you from walking it out with the Lord, you know, because Jesus is our Lord, you know, He's our God, and um, you know, He has penned everything that we need to know with His finger, you know, and the Ten Commandments.
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SPEAKER_01: And then now if we go to John chapter 8, and I'm just gonna paraphrase this because everybody knows this story.
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SPEAKER_01: And the story is about the woman who was caught in adultery.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, and how many of us can be caught in our sin or caught in something, and people have bitterness and anger towards you and death over you?
15:39
SPEAKER_01: And they pulled her out of the bed of adultery and threw her into the street and wanted to stone her.
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SPEAKER_01: They wanted her stoned.
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SPEAKER_01: So as they picked up their stones, Jesus took his finger and he started writing in the sand.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, was it the commandments?
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SPEAKER_01: Was it their sin?
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SPEAKER_01: Nobody really knows for sure what he was writing, but whatever he was writing, they all dropped their stones and they walked away.
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SPEAKER_01: And then he says, Daughter, who is it that condemns you?
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SPEAKER_01: She said, No one.
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SPEAKER_01: He said, Neither do I.
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SPEAKER_01: Now go sin no more.
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SPEAKER_01: So he still doesn't want us to sin, but you know, he gave her grace and mercy, and there's always a time for grace and mercy for God's people.
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SPEAKER_01: He will, he is, his love is so patient, he'll bring you to a point of, you know, you want to you want to go with the pen of man, or you want to go with the the pen of my finger, you know.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, sharpen your your you know, your pen for God's word, and you know, start taking notes and write things down, and that's what we do, you know.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: We write down the word, we you know, take our notes, you know, and um yeah.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just feel like God is amazing, and it, you know, I can work on my stuff too, you know, like I have a lot of things to work out every day, you know, but I don't want my heart to be full of pride or arrogance or any of the deadly sins that can keep me from him, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Anything that can be in a place of worship, in a place of, you know, um bitterness, anything, anything could hinder us from the Lord, you know.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: And um, with that being said, um, I believe you have something on that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we already we talked about, we haven't really talked about the seven deadly sins yet.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be coming in our next um episode, but we talked about the seven abominations, and so I think the seven abominations, which we discussed already, um are some of the distractions that we are currently discussing in these um episodes because uh we can get very distracted, and these distractions cause us to um step into the sin.
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SPEAKER_00: They cause us to do the these things, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Um that's where these abominations come from.
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SPEAKER_00: So, like um when we lie in vain, usually when we lie in vain, it's because we're caught red-handed and we don't, you know, we're ashamed.
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SPEAKER_00: So um, that's an abomination.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: You know, a broad look, that is another one.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: So, why are we looking all haughty?
18:37
SPEAKER_00: You know, we're not supposed to have this haughty um persona about ourselves.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: We're supposed to be humbled.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, obviously murder, uh, a lot of people have not murdered, but a lot of people have murdered.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: But it also says in the word, if you have thought about murder, um, like we talked about before we started recording, is that if even if you thought about hurting or harming someone or murdering someone, you have already committed that murder in your heart, and you still need to repent for that so that God can remove that.
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SPEAKER_00: And the thing I think about with a pen is like how he writes on our heart.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: Think about this.
19:10
SPEAKER_00: I used to teach this in my Sunday school class that I would ask the students, I would say, Okay, class, um, let's talk about our sin today.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the mistakes we've made just today.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: So, getting up this morning, how many of you minded your mommy and daddy?
19:23
SPEAKER_00: And they'd be like, Oh, not me.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, I got in trouble, you know, oops, you know, talked back, or I didn't put my shoes on, or you know, I didn't listen, you know, I didn't eat my breakfast or whatever.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: So I would just write their little sins, you know, bless their little heart, right?
19:36
SPEAKER_00: But I just write their little sins on the board, right?
19:38
SPEAKER_00: And I said, Okay, now I want you to do me a favor.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: I said, I want you to put your heads down for a moment, and I go, We're just gonna pray and ask God to forgive us and repent of those sins.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: So they put their heads down, close their eyes, and I wiped the board clean.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: So when they looked up, I said, Okay, well, what happened to the sin?
19:55
SPEAKER_00: Where did it go?
19:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, they repented for it.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: So even if it's in our heart, if it's intentional or unintentional, we need to be asking God to forgive us for it.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: We want Him to be what's writing on our hearts, not the world, because we write a lot on the world and we allow the world to write on our hearts, which we shouldn't be doing, you know, and that you know, talking about the abominations like being wicked and and and devising, um, manipulation, false witnessing, sowing discord among our brethren, these abominations and these sins all come from distractions.
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SPEAKER_00: They don't just show up.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Like nobody just goes around and lies for no reason, like usually not, you know.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I mean, unless, you know, you're an habitual liar, but most people don't intentionally plan on lying.
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SPEAKER_00: Something brings them to the point in their life where they decide, hey, I feel like I have to lie about this.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: It's usually a distraction.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: And we've been we've been addressing that for the last um the last three episodes, talking about how easy the enemy comes in and kills, stills, and destroys us because he is so easy to distract us.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: But that's because we are not paying attention to the writing on the wall, and that writing is God's writing, that writing is the word of God and his testimony.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: And um, we need to be focusing on God writing what God has written, not only in our hearts, but in this word of God.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: The whole word of God is alive and active.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: And um He He had His He had His pen on every part of every word in this Bible.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: And I love that he talks about how he just he just pointed with his finger and on the stone, here come the Ten Commandments, you know, just there they are, you know.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: And can you imagine Moses' surprise probably when he, you know, if he's watching God write with this, you know, just write it out with his finger.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, and then when Moses took the you know, took the tablets back up, he had to rewrite them.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Yeah, I have to do this because you broke it, you know, like hey, you made a mistake.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: But even though they got broken, um, he forgave them.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: He said, Let's try this one.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: More time, you know.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, we have sin in our hearts.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: That's why he decided to write on our hearts.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Because in order for us to get rid of that sin and to remove that sin and to and repent for that sin, God had to write his word on our hearts so that we would recognize the actual sin within us.
22:19
SPEAKER_00: And we all have sinned.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: We all fall short of that.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, even in Romans it says we all fall short of the glory of God.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: Um I can't remember exactly.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: I think it's uh it might be eight.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Romans eight somewhere says we all fall short of the glory of God.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: Do you know where that's at exactly, Trish?
22:34
SPEAKER_01: I think I think it is in Romans eight.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: I think it's in Romans eight.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: But it but it just talks about, you know, none of us are perfect.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: And like you said, um you know, each day we gotta walk we gotta walk out our own salvation.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean you're not saved.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: And I want to make sure people understand that.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: We are saved by the grace of God.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing that we can do that saves us.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: The blood already did it, the blood on the cross did it.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, even if we are a distraction, or even if we are distracted, we need to try to play pay close attention to the distractions in our life and not get entangled in that because that's where the web starts to form.
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SPEAKER_00: You start getting entangled in your distractions, and then the abominations start happening, and then you start, you know, this this woven web comes over you.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: And that's what the enemy wants to do.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: The enemy wants to come in and kill and steal and destroy.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: He wants to steal your happiness, he wants to steal your peace, he wants to see you fall flat on your face, he wants to see you sinning.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: And if you're not sinning, he's gonna be knocking at your door trying to get his foot in because he wants to see you sin.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: And that's why they it's funny when they say, when you get saved, watch out because the enemy's gonna come after you now.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: Because when you were living in sin and you weren't saved, he didn't have to worry a bit about you, you know.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: And now that people are saved, he comes, he chases after people.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: He literally chases after you, and he knows he's running out of time.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: He knows the Lord's coming back, and he is really, really, really busy.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: That's why we are so distracted in today's day, because the enemy knows his time is short-lived, he doesn't have much time left.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: So, having that said and having that in mind, I think this is amazing because we talked about um how Aaron fashioned the calf.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: And I like the word fashioned because it just sounds, you know, um kind of sounds elegant.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: And um to me, this may sound silly or ridiculous to you guys, but I think about creation and how God fashioned us.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: He created us so uniquely and so individual individual that we are fashioned to his image, to his liking, you know.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Here, here Aaron, all he could come up with with was a calf.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: And look at how God made us.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Look how great we are, you know.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: Thank God God didn't make us calves, you know, because they're not the smartest, you know, they're not the smartest animals.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: So I'm thankful that God fashioned us.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: And I'm yeah, I'm glad that God also fashioned a rule book for us to live by just by the pointing of his finger.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: And I'm glad that he fashioned the Ten Commandments and He fashioned the Word of God for us to have an instruction manual to live by.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: In Psalm 139, it says that um he knitted us together in our mother's womb.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: Yes, he made us in a secret place.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: So that's in Psalm 139.
25:24
SPEAKER_01: It's such a beautiful psalm if you want to go read it, read it, because that just shows you the love of God, that he knitted us it together in the mother's womb.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: And when you were talking about the laws and you know, kill, steal, and destroy, I was actually thinking about worldly laws and worldly leaders, and all over the world there are different laws in different places, you know, and I don't want to point the finger of any law anywhere else, but uh ultimately, like we're we live in a pretty good country where our law laws are not you know too bad.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: But I went somewhere one time and I wanted to, and I had traveled a little ways to get there, and there was a guy watching over the place, and um it was like a park of some kind, and it had all these beautiful, you know, scriptures around it and everything.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: And um, I was like, oh man, I I go, I just heard about this and I've never been here.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: And I was telling this guy, and um he was like, Oh, he's like, Yeah, I'm watching over the property, and he looks up and he was like, The Lord is telling me you should go.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: And he was just like telling me that God was showing him that I needed to see it right now.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: And he said, But take your time, but don't take your time at the same time.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: He's like, Because I could get in trouble, you know.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: So I ended up going through the park and seeing all these things and um scriptures, and I was asking God for an eagle because I was really into that scripture, you know, for those who hope in the Lord will mount up like wings on eagles, that one, you know, and so I was like, why can't I ever find an eagle anywhere?
27:16
SPEAKER_01: Because we're up on the mountain, you know, and I was taking pictures of the water because the water was so pretty and it sounded so beautiful.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: And my um son was with me, and it was kind of just a me and him thing, and we wrote we wrote our name in this book while we were there.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: So there's evidence of us being there, and my son was like, uh, if I could re if I could learn how to play the sound of this water, and I was like, Well, I don't know, it's kind of hard because God made it, you know, He He created the water, He created the streams, He created everything.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: I go home and I look at my pictures, and in the water is etched a vision of an eagle.
28:03
SPEAKER_01: You can see the water had made the shape of an eagle.
28:07
SPEAKER_01: I was beside myself, I couldn't believe it.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: I I had to sit there and zoom in on that picture and stare at it and just like, whoa, God made that.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: I know he did it.
28:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's just these secret little things that he does for us, you know, these little I, you know, like to call him God wink, you know, like he winks at us, like I'm here, I'm like I'm there for you, you know.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: But and I do like what you were saying about kill, steal, and destroy.
28:35
SPEAKER_01: And but he gives life and he gives it in abundance, right?
28:39
SPEAKER_00: More abundant.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: So right.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: And the the enemy wants to take our thoughts, he wants to um rewrite on our hearts with an evil pen, you know, a pen that's not from God, new ideas and ways that he wants to fashion our heart.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the enemy wants to tell us that we're no good, we're not of any value, of any worth.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: And um it's it's crazy because being raised the way I was, I was told most of my life that um I would never measure up, I would never, you know, I was never gonna be good and good at anything I did, and stuff like that.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: And that was the lie of the enemy, and I believed that lie for so many years, and that's that's where we get distracted.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: We allow the enemy to allow us, even though the enemy ain't the one who said it to me, somebody else said it to me, but I lived that lie for many years of my life believing that.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: So my self-worth and my value and who I believe to be, I didn't think I was I was I was much at all, you know.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: But it the opposite of that, like in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory show, he says much, much year, or whatever he says that, you know, God made us more than we could even fathom.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: We don't even we can't even grasp with our hands how much we how much worth we actually have.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: If that makes any sense.
29:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I'm very familiar with words, and did you know that it takes 10 positive words to overcome that one negative comment?
30:10
SPEAKER_01: And that one negative comment can have been said to you daily, and then you need ten positive affirmations on top of that.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: Where do you think you can get that from if you're not gonna get it from people?
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, that that turned into a whole nother ugly thing with people pleasing, trying to seek out the affirmation of the people that hurt you, or affirmation of the leaders, like what they wanted from Aaron, like, oh, be our leader, give us a God, you know what I mean?
30:39
SPEAKER_01: And so here we are.
30:42
SPEAKER_01: Where do we get our affirmation from?
30:45
SPEAKER_01: You know, we are gonna get it right here.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get it from the word.
30:50
SPEAKER_01: This is where we get it.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: We get the truth, the way, the truth, and the life.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: And it's abundance.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: And I used to pray, God, show me your abundance, you know, and I would sit there and whine about it forever, but it's already here, it's in the word.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: It's it's his abundance, and we're to we're not to put any other God before him.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's the number one thing.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: We the the two, when Jesus came back, he he said these two things that he wants us to live by is to love God with all your heart, your mind, and your soul.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: All your heart, mind, and soul.
31:27
SPEAKER_01: And the second commandment is like this to love your neighbor as yourself.
31:32
SPEAKER_01: How do you love your neighbor as yourself if you don't love yourself and you've been saying the very things that were said to you, oh yeah, I'm no good, I'm no, you know, and oh, I can never do, you know what I mean?
31:43
SPEAKER_01: So stop doing that.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: Just put a stop sign, you know.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: That's what they do, the FBI, yeah, FBI people.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: They put a big stop sign like that, you know, like hope, don't go there, you know.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: So I put a big stop sign in front of the devil.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: No, don't go there.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: This is my territory right here where the Lord dwells, you know, and I'm gonna worship him no matter what you say, you know, or the stinking thinking you're trying to put in my head, you know.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: His love is joy, his love is abundant, and you get that with the fruits of the spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: How can you love yourself?
32:23
SPEAKER_01: You love God first and you let him love you.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: How many of us do not let people love us?
32:30
SPEAKER_01: We gotta step out of there and you know, let God love us first, and then we can be the love to other people that we know.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: And I can tell you, uh, I just went to a funeral yesterday, and this woman, um amazing woman, I never knew her name except for I knew she was grandma, and I knew that she called me daughter, she called every young lady who was around her, her own grandkids, her children, she called them all daughter.
33:03
SPEAKER_01: She called everybody a son, and who else does that?
33:07
SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: So Jesus was overflowing out of her so greatly that everybody was a son and a daughter to her, you know, and that's what Jesus says.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: We are sons and daughters, and you know, she had her oil lamp filled, she she's going to be terribly missed, you know.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: She was a wonderful woman of God, and she loved to her fullest, you know what I mean?
33:35
SPEAKER_01: And she kept her oil lamp full.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: And this is the thing.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: When I came to Jesus, she was so excited.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: I've been praying for you.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: That's what she said.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: What's crazy is this is how great God is.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: She was one of the people praying for me, and they were all praying around the same time.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: There were two other friends of mine that had been praying for two years.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: She was praying for me.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, my spiritual dad, who's now passed away, passed away last year.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: He he was in on that prayer, and he dared me to go to church.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: He was the one that said, Oh, yeah, well, I dare you to seek the Lord.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I'll just tell everybody, I dare you to try it.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: I dare you.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: You don't think it can work?
34:21
SPEAKER_01: You start reading your Bible, I dare you to read it.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: I dare you to start with the book of John, start with the book of John or wherever the Lord leads you to, because you will not be sorry.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: And if you don't understand it, you know, find a good, you know, Christian church that will show you and teach you and guide you, you know.
34:43
SPEAKER_01: And this is what we're doing here today, you know, we are trying to help people.
34:47
SPEAKER_01: And the first thing is is to take ownership, you know.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: I'm a sinner.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: I have sinned, I've fallen short of the glory of God.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: This is what we do.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: We take ownership.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: And you go, you go, you say, I need prayer.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: You do the sinner's prayer, and which is, you know, God, sorry, I'm a sinner.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: I accept you, Jesus, into my heart as my Lord and my savior.
35:11
SPEAKER_01: And I know you rose on the third day, so that I will be saved, you know, and you believe that in your heart, and then you accept the Lord.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: That's ownership.
35:21
SPEAKER_01: Now, we don't want to own anything that isn't ours.
35:24
SPEAKER_01: We're not responsible for our sisters or our brothers, but the only thing we can do is pray, like she did.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: She prayed for me.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: And when I came to the Lord, she sent me on a mission.
35:35
SPEAKER_01: And the mission was go pray for people.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: She said, Um, also, the next mission she gave me was to um what's crazy is is I was at a place in my life was in the place in my life I was very broken.
35:55
SPEAKER_01: So the Lord is near the brokenhearted and those who are crushed in spirit.
35:59
SPEAKER_01: I was a very crushed young girl.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: And when I came to the Lord, she was near that my heart, and the Lord was too.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: And when I told her, she was so overjoyed because she had known the troubles that I had been through.
36:12
SPEAKER_01: And this is what put her put me on her heart, and that's the heart of God.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: So I took ownership.
36:18
SPEAKER_01: I and and I used to take on other people's things, you know, like, oh, I'm I want this person and this person, this person.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's where you just put it into prayer.
36:28
SPEAKER_01: You don't take ownership of your mother, your father, or your siblings.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: It's not, it's their wall, you know, we're just supposed to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
36:38
SPEAKER_01: And then the second one is we got to prepare.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we right now, this is what we're doing.
36:45
SPEAKER_01: We're reading the word, we're preparing.
36:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, and if if you think about it, what they have to do to prepare for a funeral, you know, it's almost like a wedding.
36:55
SPEAKER_01: But it's actually, to me, it's a graduation.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: She graduated, we're celebrating, you know, we're going to miss her because you know what?
37:02
SPEAKER_01: Love never dies, it never fails, it never ends, you know.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: And the third thing is, you know, you carry your light, a city on a hill not to be hidden.
37:13
SPEAKER_01: And I found out her name, and her name meaning um the one of the pastors that was speaking, he said that her meet her name meant light.
37:21
SPEAKER_01: And I can't, and her last name meant castle, and her middle name was Chris uh Christine.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: So that means light, Christ, Castle.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: So it was like her name was like a heavenly name, you know.
37:35
SPEAKER_01: But God knew that.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: He made her, and um, she told me to go tell everybody about Jesus.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: You go tell everyone about him.
37:47
SPEAKER_01: And then she gave me a list of people to pray for, and I'm not gonna say who that is, but she had me praying for people, and then she asked me if um I had anybody I wanted her to pray for, and I and I did.
38:00
SPEAKER_01: So this is who she was, you know, and I I'm just amazed, and I feel so blessed that she was in my life, and the whole family loves me like a family member, like a daughter, you know, like I'm I'm one of the daughters, you know.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Even though she didn't birth me, she was a spiritual mom, she was a spiritual grandma.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: She, you know, she was filling in the gaps in my heart that God knew I needed, and he knew I needed someone like her to help me, to pray for me.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: And now I'm on a mission.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: I have to pray and I have to help other people and you know, tell everybody about Jesus.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: That's a great testimony, too, because I think God plants people in our lives.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: He plants, you know, seeds are planted around us, and God gives us people to help us get through because we're not supposed to go through things alone.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: And um, that's why people are supposed to get married.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: That's why, you know, that's why you know you're supposed to have covenants um with with with um your spouse and your you know, your your husband and your and wife.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: But um that's pretty awesome, and um what a blessing that that was that God placed her in your life and you got to um enjoy her for the time that she was here.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: And like you said, what a celebration, you know, what a celebration of life for her to be able to um just wait for the rest of eternity and when you get to see her again, you know, what a what a rejoicing that's gonna be in heaven on that day, you know, when we get to see all of our loved ones face to face.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: I love that song.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: But um in in closing, we need to um think uh or you know, tell our listeners that this the next episode that's coming up, uh we are going to be um diving into the seven deadly sins and um how we can crush those deadly sins, what we can do to overcome those in our lives, especially if if there's some you know a particular one that we're struggling with or um something that just is keeping you stuck where you're at and you just need to get past that threshold.
40:01
SPEAKER_00: And then um Trish and I have been really burdened lately for really wanting to just share the love of God and get the message out there and to just just make sure people are really prepared for where they're going because time is really short.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: And um, we want to pray for you all.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: We wanna we want to welcome you, and um I hope that um if you don't know Jesus that you come to know him today, like right now.
40:25
SPEAKER_00: Don't don't wait, don't wait any longer.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: Jesus wants to meet you right where you're at.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter what kind of mess you're in, doesn't matter if you're if you're doing all the seven deadly sins, it doesn't matter if you're you know you're doing all the seven abominations.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: Um God wants to meet you right where you're at, and he can do that today.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: He can do that by um just if you ask him into your heart and you ask him to say, you know, you know, dear Jesus, just come into my heart and forgive me of my sins, like Trish was explaining.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: Um God wants to do that.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Jesus died for that.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: He wants to do that, like, and it's in it's immediately.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: It's immediate.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: And I know sometimes when we get saved and we walk away, we think, Did that really happen?
41:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't really, I don't feel any different yet.
41:06
SPEAKER_00: But let God start working in your life when it does happen and let him move mountains.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: God will move mountains in your life.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: And um, I know he surely moved a few of nine that I really needed moved.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, and he's also, you know, pulled me out of the pit more than a few times in my lifetime.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: And I I fully and truly believe in his love and his grace and his mercy.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: And again, for those that question their salvation, um, I was listening to someone just the other day saying well, we can lose our salvation if we keep messing up, then God's then God's not gonna save us.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Um there is a scripture that does talk about that, that talks about um, you know, um when he says, Um, what is the scripture?
41:47
SPEAKER_00: You probably know it, Trish.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, I know them by their works.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: It's by their works.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: But he says, um, oh, you cast out demons in my name, but he says, Um, but I do not know you.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to think of that scripture.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: But anyhow, we'll get into that next week.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: Matthew 25, but it also says in Ephesians 1 13, uh, once you first believe, you're sealed with the promise of the Holy Spirit.
42:12
SPEAKER_01: We were just talking about this in um amongst a fr a couple friends of ours.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: And um basically, I don't think we're it's really hard to say that we that we're not saved.
42:25
SPEAKER_01: I I like to believe that you know the Lord is always with you.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: Here's here's the thing: there is this man who um he was kind of mean to me one day, and I found out his testimony after he passed away, but there was a reconciliation before he passed, and he had lived this life of um he was a I guess he was a pastor, he had a wife and a couple kids, and he um went away from the Lord to fulfill the desires of his heart, which was to be with a man and lay leading into drugs and everything.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: So he lived his whole life after he was a young married man and got fall, fell away from this manipulation and this graven image of something he was not.
43:17
SPEAKER_01: And and that's what people are now calling themselves a thing or an it.
43:21
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
43:22
SPEAKER_01: And I really feel like no, that's not who you are.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: And this was what's amazing about you know, Elva and my other spiritual mom, Sandra, who passed.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: They can see past who you were thinking you were, or the world was telling you, or the graven world.
43:40
SPEAKER_01: The world is a grave sometimes, you know what I mean?
43:43
SPEAKER_01: And this world is going to end, okay, and God's kingdom is going to come down.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I call her my sonra, but she she had her oil lamp filled too.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: And um she she taught me things, and I would sit on her yoga.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: And just sit there and listen to her.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: And I don't have that anymore.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: So now I have the word because these two women in my life have left me with I, you know, who I should look after besides and then look to Jesus because they both did that.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
44:17
SPEAKER_01: And they could see past who you they thought you were, and they could see the image of what God created in every person.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: So there's a scripture also, it's in um Matthew 721.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: And it I believe it's 721, it says, um, don't quote me on it, but I think it is Matthew 7.21.
44:42
SPEAKER_01: So it says, the eye is a lamp of the body.
44:44
SPEAKER_01: If it's good, the whole body's full of light.
44:48
SPEAKER_01: And then I'm like, okay, so God, fill me with your light.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: This is where I said, your light, carry on, carry your light, a city on a hill not to be hidden.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: So it's not my namesake.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: My you know, the the last name, you know, your last name is supposed to be a significant thing in your life.
45:06
SPEAKER_01: And I even went into the details of looking up what my maiden name meant and my real name, you know.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: So my last name was Stone, meant Stone or Castle, which falls into, or it's a stony castle, basically.
45:20
SPEAKER_01: And then it goes from there to because that was Note Stein, and then Vanover is um uh by the shore, the shoreline, and I love the ocean, so I'm okay with that, you know.
45:33
SPEAKER_01: So I feel and then my mother's name was meant rugged wet ground.
45:38
SPEAKER_01: So, so what?
45:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, my family lineage is rugged wet ground to the stone to the shoreline.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that feels good to me, you know.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, so you know, God God does what he does with each of us, and I don't want to say whether someone's gonna go to heaven or hell, because it does say in the Bible, and I believe it's in Romans 10, it says, Do not say who will ascend or descend, because that is to tear Christ down or bring him up, and only he can do it.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, and he only knows, so and we have to keep that in mind that you know, I mean, we're not supposed to decide anyway, it's not our choice, it's God's choice, and we don't know at any given time when somebody has chosen to come right, you know, to get right with the Lord anyway.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, they may do it in a quiet secret place, and um just because nobody saw it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: So we need to be really careful and mindful of that, that we need to work out our own salvation and not worry about anybody else's.
46:41
SPEAKER_00: God's God knows what he's doing, he's got a plan, and he'll take care of it.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: It's his it that's that's what he's here for.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: But in closing, we need to wrap up and and pray because um I have to go pick up my grandkids from school, so we gotta wrap up.
46:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, and one last quick note Aaron messed up.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: He messed up, but God still used him later as a high priest, so he knew his heart, and that's the thing.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: God knows our heart, not no matter what we're doing, what other people see with their eyes, oh, that person's doing this, that person's doing that.
47:12
SPEAKER_01: It's not for us.
47:13
SPEAKER_01: God knows the inside of Aaron's heart, he knew that he knows the inside of our heart, you know, and that's my wrap.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: Would you like to close us out in prayer?
47:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, dear Lord, thank you for this time that we've had of fellowship and just reading your word and speaking uh your truth as best we can.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, God, I I just pray that you touch the hearts of people, Lord, to remove the heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh, and to be able to not um go in those places and and make images for themselves, but or use graven images and idolatry or a place of worship, but to worship you because you are the true living God.
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SPEAKER_01: We're not to put any other God before you because you are a holy God.
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SPEAKER_01: And I thank you, Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: I thank you for this time, and I ask you bless everybody's week, and we just pray for the kids too.
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SPEAKER_01: We lift them up to you.
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SPEAKER_01: There's so many things out there with being on the internet and and being uh sucked into this this way, and it causes tantrums and all kinds of things.
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SPEAKER_01: And God, I just pray that you give wisdom to the parents and um that people would start to really hear and listen to your truth and want to serve you with all their heart, mind, and soul.
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SPEAKER_01: And God, we thank you in Jesus' name, amen.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you for that.
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SPEAKER_00: That was precious, actually.
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SPEAKER_00: So, for anyone out there listening, I just want to um, in closing, just to let you know that if you need prayer for anything, if you need a clarity call, or if you're interested in coming and joining Trish and I um on on an episode, maybe let us know, reach out to us, put it in the comments, or go to crushingstrongholds.com, fill out the um welcome um section of the um website, hit subscribe, putting a little note in there, and we will get back with you.
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SPEAKER_00: But um, for everyone that was listening, we just thank you for joining us for another amazing episode of Faith Builders because that's what we want to do.
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SPEAKER_00: We want to help you build your faith the same way Jesus builds ours.
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SPEAKER_00: And we just hope that you have an amazing and blessed day.
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SPEAKER_00: We all hope you take care and God bless.