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Questions that need answering on the 2025 Buffalo Bills Defense | DC · Disguised Coverage

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Speaker 1: episode of Disguise Coverage, we're gonna be diving into some
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Speaker 1: questions on the Buffalo Bills defense and a bit of
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Speaker 1: housekeeping for this week. Doing this episode focusing on the defense.
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Speaker 1: Now going to be uploading and or potentially doing a
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Speaker 1: live episode for the offense. Uh similar to this episode
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Speaker 1: in style and theme later in the week, potentially on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Didn't do an episode last week, apologies for that, been
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Speaker 1: under the weather and a lot of things going on.
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Speaker 1: It's also why this tree is still up, but it's
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Speaker 1: got big, you know, red ornaments on it, so I
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Speaker 1: thought it'd still fit for the Valentine's Day theme. Got
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Speaker 1: a little mini Valentine's Day tree over there. So bit
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Speaker 1: of housekeeping case anybody's wondering whether big tree is staying
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Speaker 1: up while there was no why there was no episode
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Speaker 1: last week, how things are fitting in uh So, stay
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Speaker 1: Blue Sky, all that stuff. I'll be communicating anything and
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Speaker 1: everything as possible. So yeah, so keep an eye on
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Speaker 1: on the back end of this week for a an
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Speaker 1: uploaded episode similar to this, but on the offense side
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Speaker 1: of the ball, or potentially a live episode of it
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Speaker 1: Thursday night at nine pm Easter. We'll see how that,
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Speaker 1: uh that schedule goes down. And RJ says, this may
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Speaker 1: be the latest I can remember the big tree being up.
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Speaker 1: You might be right, You might be right. I think
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Speaker 1: I think I've made it through February before, maybe because
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Speaker 1: I think last year I had like big red garland
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Speaker 1: on it and more red ornaments, or I traded out
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Speaker 1: the white ones or just non red ones for more
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Speaker 1: red to make it like a big Valentine's Day tree
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Speaker 1: and make that one the little Valentine's Day Tree deep
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Speaker 1: tree as well. But you might be right, r J.
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Speaker 1: You might be right. And uh kam Moury says, oh,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the ky Mory says, since today's on the
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Speaker 1: d seeing how the Houston Philly defensive ends were able
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Speaker 1: to affect the Casey tackles. Is it a stylistic technique
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Speaker 1: thing with the Bill's defensive ends or does it calm
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Speaker 1: down to just are they not good enough? This will
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Speaker 1: definitely be a folks in the episode of I think
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Speaker 1: King Morrey says, curious because what was said on a
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Speaker 1: podcast featuring former Bills offensive lines that he says and
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Speaker 1: is your voice. Okay, Yeah, I'm still a little sick.
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Speaker 1: I get like big sick every end of the winter
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Speaker 1: going into spring. Last year hit me hard in March
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Speaker 1: whenever the bill signed Might Edwards, I was sick for
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Speaker 1: like five six days, like really hard. This time, I
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Speaker 1: got hit with it in February. I was down for
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Speaker 1: the count like a week and a half ago, and
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Speaker 1: then I was good, and then I got bad again.
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna power through a little bit, maybe a
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Speaker 1: little shorter of a show to maybe not the net
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Speaker 1: the normal like hour and a half hour and forty
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Speaker 1: five marathons that we do here, maybe more of a
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Speaker 1: forty five minute ballpark episode tonight. But yeah, I'm doing
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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, powering through. I've had some tea,
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Speaker 1: drinking water, all those things. But I appreciate that. Thank
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Speaker 1: you are just saying the tree still looks good though.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that very much, Thank you, thank you. Yeah, Claude,
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Speaker 1: it might be the sudden weather change sign of stuff,
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Speaker 1: allergy stuff. I feel fine physically, I just don't sound great.
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Speaker 1: I think I looked decent. But yeah, I'm all right,
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Speaker 1: But I'm all right, But I appreciate you guys, appreciate
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Speaker 1: you folks. But yeah, and that's a good comment there
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Speaker 1: from k More. You kind of transition us into this
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Speaker 1: episode and the thought and theme of it for you
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Speaker 1: folks joining me live as we do here. Questions, thoughts, comments, concerns,
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Speaker 1: anything you folks got, put it up into the chat.
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Speaker 1: If it's on a player that you think needs to
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Speaker 1: be addressed, if it's on a position group, if it's
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Speaker 1: on something schematic, if it's a question, if it's a
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Speaker 1: player you want them to target anything and everything regarding
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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball for the entirety of
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Speaker 1: this offseason. Things draft related, draft capital, players, prospects, anything
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Speaker 1: and everything. Feel free to put things into the chat.
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Speaker 1: I will obviously bring things up as humanly possible as
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Speaker 1: we go through. Super chats obviously get priority because I
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Speaker 1: respect the monetary donation, and the color just tracks me
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Speaker 1: from my notes and gets me around. Ak Cash says
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Speaker 1: in all caps, Anthony, they need to put a one
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Speaker 1: pi pizza where the old Allentown pizza was. It's closed.
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Speaker 1: They need to put a one pie pizza everywhere and
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Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that because they sponsored the show,
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Speaker 1: Like their pizza really is good. Then I live in
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Speaker 1: the North Towns. I grew up in the Southtowns, but
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Speaker 1: I live in the northtowns now, and I tell you know,
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Speaker 1: ownership and management all the time, Like you need to
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Speaker 1: get like a North Town's location because it's not crazy,
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Speaker 1: like it's like a maybe like a twenty two minute
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Speaker 1: drive for me from the two ninety to ninety and
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Speaker 1: then to the one ninety and that first exit right
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Speaker 1: there based on where I'm coming from. But I think
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Speaker 1: there needs to be One Pie Pizza everywhere downtown in
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Speaker 1: the North towns, anywhere and everywhere, and each town needs
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Speaker 1: to have a one Pie Pizza. So I I second
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Speaker 1: your notion there and then saying the dude, the pizza's okay,
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's so good. I'm actually gonna
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Speaker 1: get some this week. Oh and I was just saying
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Speaker 1: I would love a one Pie pizza in Rochester. Their
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Speaker 1: pizza's legit great. I appreciate that. Yeah, get some of
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Speaker 1: the like more if they push a little more into
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Speaker 1: like expanding in Western New York and then getting into
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Speaker 1: Central New York, they could have a little bit of
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Speaker 1: an empire here. Kay Morris says, I need to try one, PI,
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Speaker 1: please get one over here in Atlanta, Canada. Okay, we
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Speaker 1: can try it. I'll see if they'll go international. Get it.
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Speaker 1: Maybe get a Toronto location or an Ontario location somehow someway.
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Speaker 1: Then maybe get them over to go to West Coast Canada.
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Speaker 1: Start a little umpire here.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 1: I like it.
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Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
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Speaker 1: Let's start here for you know, answer some questions on
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills on the twenty twenty five Buffalo Bills defense.
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Speaker 1: So part of it proposing questions, part of it is
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Speaker 1: answering them, a lot of them for me, you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously in this episode stems from kind of the questions
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Speaker 1: I have just on this group as a whole. That
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Speaker 1: and I want to continue to put this in perspective
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Speaker 1: for myself for the entirety of this offseason, and I
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Speaker 1: think for a lot of folks, maybe necessarily not our
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Speaker 1: j because I know you're always on the edge when
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Speaker 1: it comes to anything and everything for the Bills. But
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Speaker 1: this team again was a Final four team and came
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Speaker 1: very close to beating the Kansas City Chiefs and going
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. This is a good football team.
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Speaker 1: They are just a couple pieces away in some form
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Speaker 1: or fashion schematically, personnel wise, decision making, all these things
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Speaker 1: that kind of add up that seems to just cost
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Speaker 1: them at just the wrong time or the wrong moment,
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Speaker 1: or ugly things that rear their head at just the
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Speaker 1: wrong moment. And so I think with all of these
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Speaker 1: conversations for the entirety of this offseason, this isn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: just specific to the defense, but I think it shades
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Speaker 1: a lot of the defensive conversation we all need to
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Speaker 1: focus on not trying to be too reactionary, especially from
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Speaker 1: like like take the Super Bowl example in a perspective, right,
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Speaker 1: seeing how dominant the Eagles defensive line was, and then
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Speaker 1: immediately juxtaposing that with if you're a Bills fan, all
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Speaker 1: the resource allocation financially and draft wise that's been put
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Speaker 1: into the Bills defensive line and not seeing that kind
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Speaker 1: of return on investment. And then you know, kind of
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Speaker 1: to this point of Charles was going to get into
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Speaker 1: as well, like saying defensive line is a hot topic,
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Speaker 1: and then given how what poon Afford and Tim Settle
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Speaker 1: played on their new respective teams, do you think the
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Speaker 1: scheme has to do with lack of production. Why is
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Speaker 1: it so much better elsewhere? Or why so much better
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Speaker 1: else I've been seeing it like a lot of these.
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Speaker 1: Is it the scheme is that the players? Is it
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Speaker 1: the fit for the players and the scheme like where
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Speaker 1: where is the disconnect? Because you know, to Charles's point,
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Puno necessarily had a world
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Speaker 1: beater type of year, but he played well for the Chargers.
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Speaker 1: Poon Afford is a big one for me. I didn't
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Speaker 1: understand why he didn't play last year. I wanted Poonaford
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Speaker 1: to get more snaps instead of them bringing Linval Josephin
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Speaker 1: who was very much on his last legs and not
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Speaker 1: very mobile at all. And that Tim Settle was legitimately
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Speaker 1: statistically and even on tape to a degree, one of
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Speaker 1: the worst defensive tackles in football last year, especially statistically,
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Speaker 1: and then he came out and had a very strong
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Speaker 1: advanced metrics statistical year for the Texans, played on a
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Speaker 1: good team. And so it's it's fair to see that
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Speaker 1: question and ask and then again like the juxtapose the
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Speaker 1: most recent game, which is the Super Bowl, just watching
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Speaker 1: what a team does when they really kind of hit
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Speaker 1: on the horses up front and the investments they make
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Speaker 1: on the defensive line payoff. And then you juxtapose that
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Speaker 1: with the Bills, who again financially draft wise, multiple avenues
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Speaker 1: of resources that they have allocated year after year to
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Speaker 1: the defensive line, and it never feeling like it's really
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Speaker 1: hit home to the point where they have horses, where
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Speaker 1: they have these dudes that can win one on one.
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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it all kind of
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Speaker 1: culminates in this large conversation, you know. And again I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of it affects the defense more so
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Speaker 1: the offense this offseason. But I think with all of
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Speaker 1: and I think this is also a very frustrating piece too,
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Speaker 1: is it feels like they're so far away in certain instances,
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Speaker 1: but then if you sit and you like kind of
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Speaker 1: sit back, it's like they're really not. Like again, like
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Speaker 1: and I'll use myself for example, like I just don't
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Speaker 1: until they be Kansas sitting in the playoffs, Like I
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Speaker 1: don't see it happen right very much. To be the man,
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Speaker 1: you gotta beat the man type of deal. And until
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Speaker 1: you not the king off the throne, the king is
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Speaker 1: the king, and it just feels like, man like, are
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Speaker 1: they ever gonna get over case? And then you like
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Speaker 1: think about it, it's just like even when they're depleted,
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Speaker 1: like they give them a really good run, they lose
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Speaker 1: by these field goals or these really short like margins
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Speaker 1: against this team that they're usually beat in the regular
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Speaker 1: season just can't get past them in the playoffs. Like
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Speaker 1: there's still a good football team that just can't get
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Speaker 1: over the mountaintop. So even if they stay the course,
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Speaker 1: they're still a good team. And I mean, hell, if
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that first down isn't you know,
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Speaker 1: ruled short on fourth down on the Josh Allen sneak,
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Speaker 1: or if Kincaid catches that pass like these little things,
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Speaker 1: are we even having this conversation? Is it a much
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Speaker 1: different conversation for the offense and the defense if the
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Speaker 1: Bills get pass Kansas City, if they go to the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Eagles, who I think were a very, very,
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Speaker 1: very tough matchup for anyone because the Eagles are just
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Speaker 1: loaded on their roster. They should have won the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl two years ago. They fell apart last year and
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Speaker 1: just retooled and wrecked everyone this year down the stretch
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Speaker 1: once they really started clicking. That would have been a
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Speaker 1: tough challenge for the Bills. But if they go to
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, how much of this conversation are we
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Speaker 1: happing are we having? Maybe they win the Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: and then maybe we're not having this conversation all, or
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Speaker 1: it's like just stay the course. So all of that
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Speaker 1: I think kind of coalesces into one, and I just
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Speaker 1: wanted to put that out there for a lot of
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Speaker 1: this conversation this year, Several of the things that I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna mention, especially on the defense, are things that I've
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Speaker 1: been kind of clamoring for year after year, and even
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Speaker 1: within myself, someone who's frustrated to not see the specific
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Speaker 1: changes that I've wanted or I thought the team needed
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Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint or body type standpoint, or a
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Speaker 1: roster standpoint or schematically, I think those like and even
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Speaker 1: me thinking those moves have hindered them from finally getting
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Speaker 1: you know, over the hump and getting to where they
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Speaker 1: want to get. Still a good team, still putting things
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Speaker 1: in perspective in that regard, So I wanted to kind of,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of preface this whole conversation with that
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Speaker 1: Bills are electric saying Brandon meaning being has a tough challenge.
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Speaker 1: They only have Ed Oliver and Daikon Jones a defensive
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Speaker 1: tackle right now. They need free agents plus draft picks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah we're going to ah. I got stuff on this one.
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Speaker 1: Baldy Lock seventy two says, can I get a one
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Speaker 1: pie and not not aham in the UK? I love
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Speaker 1: the show, Aunt go Bill. It's thank you very much
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Speaker 1: for the kind words. I appreciate that. And oh man,
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Speaker 1: we could take it even further. So step one, get
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Speaker 1: a one Pie in the north towns here in Buffalo.
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Speaker 1: Step two, get it to Rochester and expand the reach
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Speaker 1: in western New York, maybe push it out a little
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Speaker 1: central New York. And then we go global by first
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Speaker 1: getting into Canada and then we take it to Europe.
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Speaker 1: I love this idea and you just create this global
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Speaker 1: pizza empire. I like it. Thank you very much tuning
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Speaker 1: in and watching the show. That's awesome. I appreciate you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it is a I'm just I'm just gonna keep
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Speaker 1: going with some comments right now. R J saying, I
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Speaker 1: think the only way to win it all is to
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Speaker 1: build a super team like the Eagles or Ravens, this
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Speaker 1: team needs elite talent. I don't think they have any
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Speaker 1: outside of Josh and maybe Cook. Yeah, it's I think
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Speaker 1: it depends on how you defind elite, right, if you're
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Speaker 1: looking at guys who are like all pro caliber guys.
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Speaker 1: If you're using that as a definition of elite, then
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Speaker 1: Taron Johnson is elite. Matt Mlana when healthy is elite.
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Speaker 1: But I yeah, I do think there is a somewhat
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Speaker 1: of a void of like a tier level players on
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Speaker 1: this Bill squad. I really think that's been the case
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Speaker 1: for multitude years. I think they've had a lot of
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Speaker 1: good players, but not necessarily guys. And I mentioned this
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago with Kendall on the show
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Speaker 1: when laying out like the where the Buffalo Bills go
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Speaker 1: from here after they lost to Kansas City. I do
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Speaker 1: think they need more. You know, everybody always using the
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Speaker 1: phrase like guys who move the needle. I think they
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Speaker 1: need more than that. They need guys who can kind
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Speaker 1: of swing the pendulum. They need difference makers, they need
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Speaker 1: impact players, they need bucket getters like whatever verbiage you
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Speaker 1: want to use. However, that's all easier said than done, right,
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Speaker 1: especially if you don't if you're not flushed with you know,
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Speaker 1: cap space, or you don't have all these premium draft picks.
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Speaker 1: It's easier said than done. Obviously this team wants to
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Speaker 1: get those guys. There's just a disconnect, and it's easier
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Speaker 1: said than done. But I think that is a fair point.
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Speaker 1: Is a fair point, Nick saying, watching the Chiefs Soline
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Speaker 1: get obliterated the game after the Bills got almost no
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Speaker 1: pressure is really pathetic. Yeah, not great, Paison saying, I
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Speaker 1: think our offensive line is elite Dawkins and Spencer Brown,
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Speaker 1: arguably McGovern and Benford. On defense, Benford is a real
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Speaker 1: big one. I think he is starting to creep into
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Speaker 1: that strong CB one tier or upper echelon potentially with
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Speaker 1: the year that he had, he's really getting into a spot.
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Speaker 1: His tape was strong, his year was strong, and the
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Speaker 1: metrics are strong, even going back into twenty twenty. I
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Speaker 1: figure what the years are twenty twenty three. Yeah, he
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Speaker 1: had a really, really, really strong year. So let's start
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Obviously, because we're
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Speaker 1: starting with defense, but let's start with the defensive line.
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Speaker 1: The first thing I want to address, and I don't
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Speaker 1: know how contentious. This is gonna be because I know
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Speaker 1: he's somewhat of a polarizing player. Here, builds are electric
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Speaker 1: saying Benford is a high end corner in the NFL. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's having a very strong ear. And then all this
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Speaker 1: comment from Charles kind of leads us into a perfectly
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Speaker 1: being Charles says being took a huge swing and missed
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Speaker 1: with von a pot of the move, but now paying
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Speaker 1: star money to eight to an aging situational pass rusher.
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Speaker 1: That's perfect cause I'm gonna start with von Miller. I
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Speaker 1: think he's kind of the first little domino in all
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Speaker 1: this conversation with the defense, but especially on the defensive line,
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Speaker 1: which I think is I think that the defensive line
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Speaker 1: is the most important piece on this defense. It's it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of it's it's arguably the most important piece
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Speaker 1: for any and every defense, especially the Bills defense, one
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Speaker 1: that doesn't really blitz. They want to play coverage. They
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Speaker 1: rely on the front foor to do so much, from
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Speaker 1: generating pressure and getting home to also playing the run. Like,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of responsibility put on that defensive line.
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Speaker 1: We gotta stop from allast from Miller, Defensive Player of
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Speaker 1: the Year twenty twenty four. Thank you very much for
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Speaker 1: being here, Thank you very much for the super chat
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Speaker 1: and the question, oh, would you give three first round
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Speaker 1: picks for Miles Garrett? He follows that up by saying
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Speaker 1: I would, and then he says, our time is now. Man,
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Speaker 1: I wrestle with these ones all the time because I
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Speaker 1: really do like the stockpile, draft picks and draft capital,
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Speaker 1: and I'm a huge like draft person. I always have been.
16:32
Speaker 1: I love the draft, I love scouting and evaluation, and
16:35
Speaker 1: I love college football just as much so as I
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Speaker 1: do the NFL. And I prefer as many swings at
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Speaker 1: the plate as possible, So more draft picks is always
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Speaker 1: what I want. Oh but oh man, this is so
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Speaker 1: tough for me, and I've literally wrestled with this every day,
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Speaker 1: like the type of allocation it would take to acquire
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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. On the one hand, I want to say no,
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Speaker 1: But on the other hand, picks are always a crapshoot.
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Speaker 1: There's no exact science, there's no guarantee, and Miles Garrett
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Speaker 1: is legitimately one of not just defensively, but one of
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Speaker 1: the top ten players in all of football. Oh, three firsts, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would probably do that I would prefer two first
17:21
Speaker 1: and something else, like two first and a third, or
17:24
Speaker 1: even two to ones and a two something like that.
17:28
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it. And this is a
17:30
Speaker 1: good a good comment that you followed up with. See
17:33
Speaker 1: he said he hasn't been elite drafting first round anyway.
17:36
Speaker 1: A lot of it comes down to where the bill
17:37
Speaker 1: is always pick like it's hard to get someone elite
17:40
Speaker 1: when you're consistently picking from like pick twenty six and on,
17:43
Speaker 1: Like it's hard to get someone to lead at pick
17:45
Speaker 1: thirty like they have this year in the first round.
17:47
Speaker 1: Like so, but yeah, i'd probably trade three first for
17:50
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. That would be pretty sick. That would be
17:52
Speaker 1: pretty sick. I do think beings hit on the first
17:55
Speaker 1: round picks, like in mos like honestly, in a lot
17:58
Speaker 1: of ways, Like I think Grousseau was a hit, Oliver
18:01
Speaker 1: was a hit. They may not be the hit to
18:04
Speaker 1: the level we want them to be. Kinkaid, I think
18:06
Speaker 1: the jury is still out. Good rookie year hurt last year.
18:09
Speaker 1: Kiyear obviously more of a miss than anything. I think
18:14
Speaker 1: that's the big one. But it's hard to get elite
18:17
Speaker 1: guys at the back end of the first round, which
18:19
Speaker 1: is part of why like, Okay, if you're trading your
18:21
Speaker 1: first round picks their later first round ones, I don't
18:24
Speaker 1: mind that. Yeah, I'd probably trade three first for Miles Garrett.
18:26
Speaker 1: I would rather it be two ones and something else.
18:28
Speaker 1: But I mean, and you can make a case either way.
18:31
Speaker 1: I would at the very least consider it.
18:33
Speaker 2: I like that.
18:33
Speaker 1: I also appreciate the hell out of Joseph right now
18:35
Speaker 1: saying we still have our real Christmas cree up. We
18:38
Speaker 1: still have our real Christmas tree up still too. I
18:40
Speaker 1: appreciate you for that. Thank you very much. We are
18:43
Speaker 1: you and I are one in this episode. So I
18:46
Speaker 1: want to start that comment from where was it that
18:49
Speaker 1: initial comment from Charles regarding Vond. I want to start
18:52
Speaker 1: with Vond Miller, the conversation around him, and even just
18:55
Speaker 1: in general. Von very much was as advertised when the
18:59
Speaker 1: Bills traded for him and got him until he tore
19:01
Speaker 1: his ACL on Thanksgiving against Detroit. He was that closer.
19:05
Speaker 1: He was the bucket getter, he was the pendulum swinger,
19:08
Speaker 1: the one on one guy that they needed. And again,
19:13
Speaker 1: he was as advertised, and I think we all knew
19:16
Speaker 1: that even if it worked out in that year, as
19:19
Speaker 1: he went forward with age miles on the tires, we
19:22
Speaker 1: would see some sort of diminished return with each subsequent year.
19:26
Speaker 1: Obviously tearing his ACL accelerated that process, hindered the initial
19:31
Speaker 1: you know, successful returns on investment. But I think that
19:39
Speaker 1: shades it a bit. I do think the initial trade
19:41
Speaker 1: was a win, and it's hard for me to fault
19:43
Speaker 1: Bean with Vaughn getting hurt because he doesn't have a
19:45
Speaker 1: big injury history. He didn't get hurt because he was
19:48
Speaker 1: old and worn down. It was just a field situation
19:51
Speaker 1: and the wrong place at the wrong time type of
19:53
Speaker 1: deal for Vaughn. So I do think that you know,
19:57
Speaker 1: as k Morty says in the chat to that Vonn
19:58
Speaker 1: was electric in the twenty twenty two A game. Yeah,
20:00
Speaker 1: he helped close that game out like he was as advertised.
20:03
Speaker 1: Like that trade was a legitimate win up until he
20:05
Speaker 1: went down, which obviously changed the trajectory. And I don't
20:09
Speaker 1: fault being for that because I think his head was
20:11
Speaker 1: in the right place and I do think the trade
20:13
Speaker 1: would have worked out further ahead. He Kno gone down
20:15
Speaker 1: with injury, which is a frustrating piece. But alas regarding
20:20
Speaker 1: von Miller, and I'm gonna be talking about some of
20:21
Speaker 1: this on the Salary Cap Extravaganza Show with Greg and
20:25
Speaker 1: Steve until from the Air Raid Tomorrow night Live, nine
20:27
Speaker 1: pm Eastern, when we do that episode right now for me,
20:32
Speaker 1: for von Miller again, regardless of the initial return on investment,
20:34
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, where he was this past year,
20:39
Speaker 1: and this is really what I want to talk about
20:40
Speaker 1: when it comes to Vaughan. So if you look at
20:42
Speaker 1: some metrics, like overall, he finished eighth in terms of
20:45
Speaker 1: past rush productivity for edges last year, and pass rush
20:50
Speaker 1: productivity is pressures generated relative to how many times you
20:54
Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. So it's an efficiency metric, right If
20:56
Speaker 1: someone has two hundred pressures, you're like, oh my god,
20:59
Speaker 1: that's amazing. But if they rushed the quarterback ten thousand times,
21:03
Speaker 1: that's not as good as someone who had one hundred
21:05
Speaker 1: and fifty pressures but only rushed the quarterback, you know,
21:08
Speaker 1: five hundred times or something like that. You kind of
21:10
Speaker 1: just make an extreme example. But he finished eighth and
21:13
Speaker 1: pass rus productivity, so he had a goodyear from an
21:14
Speaker 1: advanced metric standpoint. My issue with it is, and maybe
21:19
Speaker 1: this is too nitpicky, you kind of look at how
21:22
Speaker 1: the pressures came on tape, and then you look at
21:26
Speaker 1: it in terms of the actual data and the sample size.
21:28
Speaker 1: So he played thirteen regular season games. One of those games, technically, though,
21:33
Speaker 1: was when he only played three snaps against New England
21:35
Speaker 1: in Week eighteen to kind of get his his sack bonus.
21:38
Speaker 1: So let's say he only played twelve games really, because
21:41
Speaker 1: that thirteenth game he played three snaps. He had twelve
21:44
Speaker 1: games played, thirty one pressures generated. Nineteen of those pressures
21:48
Speaker 1: came across four games, the New England game, the Jacksonville game,
21:52
Speaker 1: the Arizona.
21:53
Speaker 3: Game, and.
21:55
Speaker 1: And don't yell at me, can't remember or the Arizona game,
22:01
Speaker 1: the first Miami game. So the Arizona game he had
22:04
Speaker 1: five pressures. The Miami game the first one. In week two,
22:07
Speaker 1: he had four pressures against jackson Mill in Week three
22:09
Speaker 1: he had four pressures. So the first three weeks he
22:12
Speaker 1: came out hot. And then he also had six pressures
22:14
Speaker 1: against the Patriots in Week sixteen. But and I know
22:18
Speaker 1: it's hard to do this, but if you take those
22:21
Speaker 1: nineteen pressures that came across four games, the other eight
22:24
Speaker 1: games he had zero pressures, zero pressures, two pressures, two pressures,
22:29
Speaker 1: one pressure, three pressures, three pressures one. I think he
22:32
Speaker 1: had a very good year. I think some of the
22:35
Speaker 1: metrics kind of over blew how good of a year
22:38
Speaker 1: he had, even the playoffs. Right the opening game against
22:41
Speaker 1: Denver and the wild card, he had five pressures, which
22:44
Speaker 1: looks really good. One of those was a six man
22:48
Speaker 1: pressure with Marvin Mims in the backfield who released out
22:52
Speaker 1: and Von came free off the edge. Sow was a
22:54
Speaker 1: schemed up free runner generated as a pressure. Another one
22:58
Speaker 1: was that real clean spin move off the right side
23:00
Speaker 1: legit awesome, beautiful. One was a design rollout to bow
23:04
Speaker 1: knicks where Vaughn gets trapped inside by the tight end.
23:06
Speaker 1: Doesn't really affect bow in anyway because the play is
23:09
Speaker 1: already gone that way. Bow rolls out to his right.
23:11
Speaker 1: Vn gets pinned inside, but it gets generated as a pressure.
23:14
Speaker 1: And then two of the others were later in the
23:16
Speaker 1: game where it's a blowout. Von's you know, teeing off
23:18
Speaker 1: and trying to jump the snap on fourth and seventeen
23:21
Speaker 1: and make him plays. So the stats are there, but
23:25
Speaker 1: I think if you look within the context of the
23:26
Speaker 1: games and then see actually what happened, I don't think
23:31
Speaker 1: the numbers look is good or sound is good when
23:35
Speaker 1: you go back and you really watch everything overall, I
23:38
Speaker 1: think Vaughn had a good year last year. I thought
23:40
Speaker 1: he was a solid high end edge three to a
23:43
Speaker 1: lower to mid tier edge two for pretty much the
23:46
Speaker 1: whole year, and the tape in metrics speak to that.
23:48
Speaker 1: He's pulling off some really clean spin moves he's got.
23:51
Speaker 1: He had a really good long arm last year. First touch,
23:54
Speaker 1: hand usage, push pull, pulling himself around the corner. He
23:58
Speaker 1: had a good season last year. He made far more
24:00
Speaker 1: plays against the run that get talked about. Obviously, when
24:02
Speaker 1: it comes to defensive line and Von Miller, the conversation
24:05
Speaker 1: is going to be around pass rush, pressure, sacks, getting home,
24:09
Speaker 1: closing the game out, all that kind of stuff. But
24:12
Speaker 1: he had a good year against the run and that
24:13
Speaker 1: started from Week one against Arizona. He helped kind of
24:16
Speaker 1: turn things around when the Cardinals were just running all
24:18
Speaker 1: over the Bills to start the season in Week one.
24:21
Speaker 1: So I think he had a fine year. I think
24:23
Speaker 1: he was a high end three to a lower to
24:25
Speaker 1: mid tier edge two for pretty much the whole year.
24:29
Speaker 1: My issue with that is it's hard for me to
24:32
Speaker 1: stomach this version of von Miller in twenty twenty five
24:36
Speaker 1: having the second highest cap hit on the team at
24:39
Speaker 1: twenty three point eight million dollars, Like, that's a lot
24:43
Speaker 1: for a guy that's like an edge three or an
24:46
Speaker 1: edge two and is not a premier guy. And then
24:48
Speaker 1: part of that also funnels in to how the rest
24:52
Speaker 1: of the edge grouping and defensive line is constructed. So
24:55
Speaker 1: I want to continue to, you know, just focus on
24:57
Speaker 1: the edge grouping first overall. You know, if the Bills
25:01
Speaker 1: cut von Miller right now, well, once the new league
25:03
Speaker 1: year starts, they can save eight point three nine seven
25:06
Speaker 1: million seventeen point four million if they designate him as
25:10
Speaker 1: a post June first cut. Problem with all of that
25:13
Speaker 1: regarding the post June first cut is the Bills would
25:16
Speaker 1: still have to carry his full salary cap charge until
25:19
Speaker 1: June first, even though he's been released from his contract
25:21
Speaker 1: or designated for that. So the dead money that you
25:24
Speaker 1: get to split between this year and twenty twenty six
25:28
Speaker 1: wouldn't occur in March like when they made that or
25:30
Speaker 1: designated that. It wouldn't help them create room for free agents.
25:34
Speaker 1: It would just give them more money to use during
25:36
Speaker 1: like rookie signing and functioning when the Kappa County expands
25:40
Speaker 1: from the fifty one players in the offseason to the
25:43
Speaker 1: full roster later, so you still get some relief, but
25:45
Speaker 1: it wouldn't if you designate it again on in the
25:48
Speaker 1: new league year. That eight point three ninety seven going
25:51
Speaker 1: to seventeen point four to four doesn't really give you
25:54
Speaker 1: more room to sign free agents, if that makes sense.
25:56
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into all this tomorrow, the salary cap
25:58
Speaker 1: extravaganz if I wanted to put that in there. So
26:01
Speaker 1: my issue with Vaughn is getting paid what he is,
26:05
Speaker 1: the cap hit within that, and then just how this
26:08
Speaker 1: edge grouping is constructed. Greg Russeau is the best overall
26:13
Speaker 1: edge for the Buffalo Bills, and he's very good, but
26:18
Speaker 1: he's more of a Robin than he is Batman as
26:21
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, which again is fine because he is
26:23
Speaker 1: genuinely elite versus the run. He is one of the
26:25
Speaker 1: best run defending edges and one of the best run
26:28
Speaker 1: defending defensive linemen in all of football. I also know
26:32
Speaker 1: his pressure numbers look very good last year as well,
26:35
Speaker 1: and his productivity and total pressures and all that stuff.
26:38
Speaker 1: He has some similar things when you look at like
26:41
Speaker 1: the pressures, I think third like he had sixty three
26:42
Speaker 1: pressures last year. Thirty of them came across like three games,
26:45
Speaker 1: with eleven of them coming against Tennessee alone. So not
26:49
Speaker 1: that that's bad. Like that doesn't mean that he's bad,
26:51
Speaker 1: But I think he's more of an edge two solid
26:53
Speaker 1: edge two as a pass rusher, Edge one legitimate against
26:57
Speaker 1: the run. But oh, I like this saying I think
27:01
Speaker 1: he's more of a night Wing than a Robin.
27:03
Speaker 2: I like that.
27:03
Speaker 1: I like that.
27:04
Speaker 2: I like that.
27:05
Speaker 1: Also, I see a lot of comments coming through. I'm
27:07
Speaker 1: getting through this and then I'll circle back and start
27:09
Speaker 1: to bring more of the pieces in. So you look
27:13
Speaker 1: at what you're paying Vaughn right now and what Vaughn is,
27:16
Speaker 1: and then you look at Groot, who you're probably gonna
27:19
Speaker 1: have to pay as well. He's not really an edge
27:22
Speaker 1: one as a pass rusher aj Apanessa, I think I'm
27:25
Speaker 1: fine with you could save some money and cutting aj Apanessa,
27:29
Speaker 1: but I'm fine with him kind of as is. He
27:31
Speaker 1: was tied for sixteenth out of one hundred and twenty
27:33
Speaker 1: seven edges. In run stops. He was twenty fourth out
27:36
Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty seven edges and run stop percentage. Again,
27:40
Speaker 1: that's valuable and that carries weight, especially in this defense.
27:44
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for dudes who can get home
27:46
Speaker 1: and affect the quarterback, that's what Vaughn was paid to do.
27:49
Speaker 1: He has obviously deteriorated a bit and isn't that true one,
27:52
Speaker 1: which again is fine depending on how the rest of
27:54
Speaker 1: the edge room is constructed. But in Groot, you don't
27:57
Speaker 1: have a true edge one as a pass rusher. He's
27:59
Speaker 1: more of an edge two, a panessa. It's probably more
28:03
Speaker 1: of an edge three as a pass rusher, like mid
28:07
Speaker 1: tier three, maybe a high end four load to mid
28:09
Speaker 1: tier three. So you look at how this edge group
28:13
Speaker 1: is constructed. You're paying so much for Vaughn. You don't
28:16
Speaker 1: have a true edge one as a pass rusher. And
28:19
Speaker 1: if you don't have a true edge one, it's like, okay,
28:21
Speaker 1: you know, hockey style, you don't have a number one line.
28:24
Speaker 1: But if you have three legitimate scoring lines and then
28:27
Speaker 1: your fourth line is more like a number three, you
28:29
Speaker 1: can be okay. Kind of like what the Sabers were
28:31
Speaker 1: in five oh six. They didn't have this true number
28:34
Speaker 1: one line, but all four of their lines were good.
28:37
Speaker 1: They played defense they could score. You had this good
28:39
Speaker 1: mix across line one, line two, line three. Their first three,
28:43
Speaker 1: their top three lines were all like number two quality lines,
28:46
Speaker 1: and then their fourth line was more like a number three.
28:49
Speaker 1: That's that kind of variability you need to have if
28:52
Speaker 1: you don't have a true edge one as a pass rusher.
28:54
Speaker 1: The Bills don't have that. But I think the rest
28:57
Speaker 1: of the mix is not there. So it starts with
29:00
Speaker 1: von I would like him to take a pay cut again,
29:04
Speaker 1: if possible, I would be very much down for that.
29:06
Speaker 1: If not, I think a cut outright and releasing of
29:10
Speaker 1: him is very very very much on the tablegain. I'm
29:11
Speaker 1: gonna get into a lot of this tomorrow in the
29:12
Speaker 1: salary cap extravaganza, but i'd rather, you know, he's if
29:16
Speaker 1: they cut him nowt it's gonna be a sizable dead
29:17
Speaker 1: cap this year and next year. But say they cut
29:20
Speaker 1: him as free agency starts, you save eight point three
29:22
Speaker 1: nine seven million pretty much eight point four. I'd rather
29:26
Speaker 1: get like two other edges for that, like give me,
29:30
Speaker 1: you know, some of my guys I'm going to talk
29:31
Speaker 1: about in the film room tomorrow, Like give me Dante
29:33
Speaker 1: Fowler for about four and a half or five million
29:37
Speaker 1: and give me John Kaminski at probably two and a
29:40
Speaker 1: half for three. Give me those two guys for the
29:42
Speaker 1: money I can save by cutting von Miller this year.
29:45
Speaker 1: And I don't think the discrepancy is too significant in
29:47
Speaker 1: any way. Or again, you can keep Von, but then
29:52
Speaker 1: you have to get a like Von. It would be
29:53
Speaker 1: a really good edge three if the Bills and I'm
29:56
Speaker 1: not just saying this, but if the Bills had Max
29:58
Speaker 1: Crosby or Miles g and then Group and then Von
30:01
Speaker 1: Miller and then aj Apanessa, they just need that top
30:05
Speaker 1: tier one to round out the group. Problem is it's
30:11
Speaker 1: hard to get that guy with you know where they
30:13
Speaker 1: usually draft the money, all these things that we've talked about.
30:15
Speaker 1: So if the edge grouping was constructed a little differently,
30:19
Speaker 1: I would be more than fine just kind of keeping
30:21
Speaker 1: Von as is if they had a true one, but
30:23
Speaker 1: they do not as of this moment, and because I
30:26
Speaker 1: think it's hard to get that true one without sacrificing
30:29
Speaker 1: a lot, like even we talked about earlier, that example
30:31
Speaker 1: and that question, right, you know, trading for Milescarrett. Is
30:34
Speaker 1: it three first? Is it two firsts and a two?
30:36
Speaker 1: Is it two first and a third? How much do
30:39
Speaker 1: you have to give up? And then you have to
30:40
Speaker 1: you know, the money that he has to come in
30:42
Speaker 1: the deal to secure him and keep them going forward.
30:44
Speaker 1: Granted the salary cap could go up in future years.
30:47
Speaker 1: There's all of these type of deals, right, and things
30:49
Speaker 1: to consider with it. But I say all that to say,
30:53
Speaker 1: it's harder to get that true edge one as a
30:56
Speaker 1: pass rusher than it is to kind of just get
30:58
Speaker 1: more B plus guys and round out the group. But
31:01
Speaker 1: in order to do that, you still have to pay
31:02
Speaker 1: them a little bit. So I am on board for
31:06
Speaker 1: kind of cutting von and then using that money to
31:08
Speaker 1: try and acquire more B plus level guys and really
31:11
Speaker 1: round out the group and attack it from some of
31:13
Speaker 1: its parts, type of deal which the Bills have done
31:15
Speaker 1: in the past. But if you do allocate some of
31:18
Speaker 1: that money, you can get guys that can make a difference.
31:20
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd a good example. What a couple of years ago,
31:22
Speaker 1: one year seven million, one year's eight kind of like
31:24
Speaker 1: a mercenary signing, was very legitimate and the Bill's best
31:28
Speaker 1: pass rusher until he got what I believe was kind
31:31
Speaker 1: of like an undisclosed injury type of deal, not a sneaky,
31:33
Speaker 1: your shady way. But if you look at that year,
31:35
Speaker 1: once like week ten or eleven started to hit, he
31:38
Speaker 1: was when he would make a tackle or a play
31:40
Speaker 1: and he'd get down off the ground, he had to
31:41
Speaker 1: be helped up. You could just tell that he was laboring,
31:43
Speaker 1: he was in pain. He was not the same player
31:46
Speaker 1: down the stretch that they needed him to be. But
31:48
Speaker 1: if you can get multiple guys like that, then all
31:50
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're different. If you have a true
31:52
Speaker 1: edge one as a pass rusher pairing with Groot and Epanessa,
31:56
Speaker 1: and then a legitimate four on top of that, whether
31:59
Speaker 1: Javon Solomon's taking the jump or you're bringing in another
32:01
Speaker 1: free agent. I think that's the easier way to go.
32:06
Speaker 1: Aside from just again you ought you got trade for
32:08
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, trade for Max Crosby. They just need more hunters,
32:11
Speaker 1: They need more horses, They need more dudes on the
32:13
Speaker 1: defensive line, They need more pendulum swingers. And it doesn't
32:16
Speaker 1: have to meet a holistic pendulum swinger top ten player
32:19
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Max Crosby. You need guys who are just
32:22
Speaker 1: good at something and can win. Leonard Floyd is a
32:24
Speaker 1: good example. Mercenary pass rusher fighting against the run as well.
32:29
Speaker 1: But you knew that when he was coming off the edge,
32:31
Speaker 1: he he was their number one guy in terms of
32:33
Speaker 1: Russian qbs off the edge, number one type of pass rusher.
32:36
Speaker 1: Pairing him with that Oliver all of a sudden, I'm
32:38
Speaker 1: for know that Oliver well they were, but also with
32:40
Speaker 1: Greg Russeau is what I meant to say. That kind
32:43
Speaker 1: of puts things into perspective a little bit more so
32:47
Speaker 1: they know and they get back to that Panessa again,
32:50
Speaker 1: you can save some money and cutting him. I'm fine
32:53
Speaker 1: with him given his run defense piece, and then I'd
32:55
Speaker 1: rather have Rousseau and Epanessa and then build around that
32:59
Speaker 1: with some juice and athleticism and physicality via free agency
33:02
Speaker 1: in the draft. I am not opposed to a full
33:04
Speaker 1: tear down, but bouncing Vaughan and Apanessa just to have
33:09
Speaker 1: Groot and Javon Solomon on the roster at the edge
33:12
Speaker 1: creates a sizeable amount of work to be done immediately,
33:15
Speaker 1: which is an awful It just pigeonholes you a little bit,
33:17
Speaker 1: kind of forces your hand for this offseason. Now, also
33:21
Speaker 1: tying into some of that question that was asked earlier
33:24
Speaker 1: and one that I talk about every year. I would
33:27
Speaker 1: like the Bills to change the archetype they go after
33:29
Speaker 1: on the defensive line when we talk about edge, I
33:32
Speaker 1: want more guys with bend juice and or athleticism, not
33:36
Speaker 1: just pure pocket compression guys. And then on the interior,
33:41
Speaker 1: I would like the Bills to give themselves a plugger
33:43
Speaker 1: on the inside, not the tweeter types that kind of
33:46
Speaker 1: have a no man's land skill set where they're not
33:49
Speaker 1: dialed up enough in any specific area to change the game.
33:52
Speaker 1: Kind of like what Austin Johnson was last year, who
33:55
Speaker 1: I thought he was more one tech back up to
33:58
Speaker 1: Daiquon Jones type of mat he came in lighter and
34:01
Speaker 1: more spelt. I don't know if that was a the
34:03
Speaker 1: Bills direction or not, Probably because they like guys to
34:05
Speaker 1: be able to play the run and rush the quarterback
34:08
Speaker 1: by just being one gap penetrators and getting up fields.
34:11
Speaker 1: So maybe they wanted him to shed a little weight
34:13
Speaker 1: and be able to play one tech and three tech,
34:15
Speaker 1: but I think it put him into this no man's
34:18
Speaker 1: land of ineffectivity where he was just like on a
34:21
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, he was like a three
34:23
Speaker 1: or a four as a run stopper and a three
34:26
Speaker 1: or three or four as a pass rusher. I think
34:29
Speaker 1: they need someone who even if they're like, oh, a
34:31
Speaker 1: six or a seven against the run and they're only
34:32
Speaker 1: a two against the pass, I'm fine with that at
34:35
Speaker 1: this point, Like they need a plugger on the inside,
34:38
Speaker 1: if it could be somebody with a little more juice,
34:41
Speaker 1: or just somebody who can give you some knockback, generate
34:44
Speaker 1: some you know, push into the backfield. I'm gonna talk
34:46
Speaker 1: about a couple guys tomorrow in the film room in
34:47
Speaker 1: terms of my free agent targets, but I have several
34:49
Speaker 1: in mind that can do that. One that would be
34:51
Speaker 1: a real slam dunk of a hit that costs a
34:54
Speaker 1: little more, and a couple that are a little more
34:55
Speaker 1: cost effective, uh DJ Jones and Roy Lopez, which we're
34:59
Speaker 1: going to talk about tomorrow night in the film room.
35:01
Speaker 1: But they need to change the archetype on the defensive line.
35:05
Speaker 1: Von Miller was very much an outlier for them, even
35:08
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd to a degree as well. But they go
35:11
Speaker 1: for bigger run, defending pocket compression type of dudes. They
35:16
Speaker 1: do not look for bend dip juice, athleticism, moves kind
35:21
Speaker 1: of guys pass rush playing kind of guys. They want
35:24
Speaker 1: dudes who can just line up wide and drive the
35:26
Speaker 1: tackle onto the backfield. They prioritize length, size, all that
35:29
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I would like to change that at
35:32
Speaker 1: edge and again on the interior. Give me a plugger
35:36
Speaker 1: and if it can be somebody. It doesn't have to
35:38
Speaker 1: be somebody who's huge, right, I like, even we're just
35:39
Speaker 1: talking about the draft, right, I know a lot of
35:41
Speaker 1: people like Kenneth Grant. I like Kenneth Grant as well,
35:43
Speaker 1: although he does play a little high, but I'll get
35:45
Speaker 1: into that as we go down the stretch in this offseason.
35:48
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be somewhat huge. It doesn't have
35:50
Speaker 1: to be a three hundred and thirty pound guy or
35:51
Speaker 1: a three hundred and forty pound guy. It's funny. I
35:53
Speaker 1: just saw the comment from Charles saying trade for Kenneth Grant,
35:56
Speaker 1: and again I am seeing a lot of these comments.
35:58
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back in and cycle through to
36:00
Speaker 1: put these piece in the conversation. It doesn't have to
36:02
Speaker 1: be a huge dude. It doesn't have to be videvea,
36:04
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be see Pathon saying to and
36:06
Speaker 1: Andre Sweat it doesn't have to be some huge mountain
36:09
Speaker 1: of a dude. It just needs to be somebody who
36:12
Speaker 1: can handle themselves against double teams, not get blown off
36:16
Speaker 1: the ball, not get displaced horizontally or vertically. That's it.
36:20
Speaker 1: So it doesn't have to be somebody huge. It could
36:22
Speaker 1: be Kenneth Grant, it could be Derek Harmon, it could
36:24
Speaker 1: be Tyler Williams who Paison is put into the chat like.
36:27
Speaker 1: It could be. It doesn't when I say plugger, it
36:30
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be somebody who's huge, Like, it doesn't
36:32
Speaker 1: have to be again Vita Vea or to and Andre
36:36
Speaker 1: Sweat or just some mountain of a dude. And I
36:38
Speaker 1: also don't want it to be I don't want it
36:40
Speaker 1: to be somebody who is just run defense and isn't
36:43
Speaker 1: going to impact the game at all. As a pastors,
36:45
Speaker 1: you got to have a little bit of juice. You
36:47
Speaker 1: got to have a little bit of penetration ability in
36:50
Speaker 1: addition to being able to hold your ground and anchor
36:52
Speaker 1: at the point of attack as a run defender, right,
36:54
Speaker 1: But they need more of a Plugger type of presence.
36:57
Speaker 1: And it was part of why I'm going to continue
36:59
Speaker 1: to bang the I wanted Ilianku to suit up down
37:02
Speaker 1: the stretch. I just thought Carter wasn't really giving you anything.
37:05
Speaker 1: Johnson wasn't giving you anything. Jefferson and Phillips weren't really
37:08
Speaker 1: giving you anything. So why not put a guy in
37:11
Speaker 1: there who's like a six and a half against the run,
37:13
Speaker 1: And he may only be a one against the pass,
37:15
Speaker 1: but it's better than the other guys who are giving
37:17
Speaker 1: you like a two against each. And they may be
37:19
Speaker 1: better overall against both when you look at it holistically,
37:23
Speaker 1: but they're still not making an impact either way. And
37:25
Speaker 1: so I'd rather take a guy who can make an
37:26
Speaker 1: impact in a silo than a guy who's still below
37:29
Speaker 1: average at both spots. And so again, archetypes on the
37:35
Speaker 1: defensive line more bend juice, athleticism at edge, not just
37:39
Speaker 1: pure pocket compression. Get yourself a plugger on the inside,
37:42
Speaker 1: not these tweeter types that have a no man's land
37:44
Speaker 1: skill set where they're not dialed up enough in any
37:46
Speaker 1: specific area to change the game. And also ideally they
37:50
Speaker 1: need long term answers. So if you can sign a
37:52
Speaker 1: couple of dudes this year to some legitimate two or
37:55
Speaker 1: three year deals, or this defensive line class and the
37:58
Speaker 1: draft is really good defensive tackle, but even at edge
38:03
Speaker 1: two if you can get some long term answers there,
38:05
Speaker 1: and again you do have to hit on them, like
38:07
Speaker 1: having Greg Russou and then Boogie Basham obviously hurts even
38:10
Speaker 1: age at Panessa, Like I think Panesa has been better
38:13
Speaker 1: then he gets credit for, but probably not to the level,
38:16
Speaker 1: not even probably, but not to the level of a
38:17
Speaker 1: second round pick, which is where he was drafted at. Right,
38:21
Speaker 1: So get some long term answers, not free agent cast
38:25
Speaker 1: offs midyear like Jordan Phillips and Quentin Jefferson. Like Quentin
38:29
Speaker 1: Jefferson and Jordan Phillips were let go by bad football
38:31
Speaker 1: teams and the Bills brought them in and they became
38:34
Speaker 1: immediate starters. Like not starters, but immediately evolved heavily in
38:37
Speaker 1: the rotation for them on the interior. That is not
38:40
Speaker 1: a good signe Like they have to start avoiding things
38:43
Speaker 1: like that. That's kind of my thoughts overall in this
38:46
Speaker 1: defensive line. Now, want to grab some of the comments here,
38:50
Speaker 1: there's a bunch on the defensive line. Let me go
38:53
Speaker 1: back here. M m mmmmm. Let's go Nick saying I
39:04
Speaker 1: miss when the Sabers are not the softest team in
39:05
Speaker 1: all the Pro sparts sports. Yeah, those are the days
39:09
Speaker 1: Charles Saint Vaughn alone made more than Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis,
39:12
Speaker 1: Milton Williams, and Zach Bond combined. Yeah, man, where are
39:17
Speaker 1: we are j going and saying this is where missing
39:21
Speaker 1: completely on Boogie Bashman to a lesser extent, A Jampanessa
39:23
Speaker 1: comes in. Yeah, that's it, Jim Jack. This is go
39:28
Speaker 1: in here saying if we can just get a guy
39:30
Speaker 1: that can quote unquote get home and get ten sacks
39:33
Speaker 1: to go along with groups eight to ten, I would
39:35
Speaker 1: be happy. But our downfall against Kansas City, we need
39:38
Speaker 1: more than one guy that can get pressure, and I
39:40
Speaker 1: think that's the piece if and this is also the
39:43
Speaker 1: time to do it too. Right with the Bills defense,
39:45
Speaker 1: with the way they want to run, they want to
39:47
Speaker 1: rush for and they want to play coverage behind it.
39:49
Speaker 1: When I say coverage behind it, I mean like they
39:50
Speaker 1: want seven guys in coverage, which makes sense, right. If
39:54
Speaker 1: you consistently have seven guys in coverage, you have the
39:56
Speaker 1: numbers advantage against any route distribution combination. So you have
40:00
Speaker 1: the numbers advantage, you have the body's advantage, you can
40:02
Speaker 1: disguise things more. You can play any and every coverage,
40:05
Speaker 1: and then depending on what body types you have, you
40:07
Speaker 1: can change how late you spin to it or rotate
40:09
Speaker 1: or all the things you do right. But those horses
40:14
Speaker 1: up front need to be horses if you're gonna run
40:17
Speaker 1: the type of defense that the Bills want to run.
40:19
Speaker 1: If you want to rely on the front four to
40:21
Speaker 1: get pressure, you have to have dudes up front. If
40:23
Speaker 1: you want the front four to be responsible for coming
40:25
Speaker 1: up the works against the run, you need to have
40:28
Speaker 1: those horses up front. The Bills just didn't this past season,
40:32
Speaker 1: and now if they don't going into this year again
40:35
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, that can still be okay. But
40:38
Speaker 1: you gotta tweet the scheme a little bit. I don't
40:41
Speaker 1: think they really want to tweet the scheme. I think
40:42
Speaker 1: they want to continue kind of staying the course. And again,
40:45
Speaker 1: holistically it's been a good course and a good defense
40:48
Speaker 1: kind of year over year. They just haven't been able
40:49
Speaker 1: to get over the hump. But yeah, that is what
40:51
Speaker 1: they need. Like if you are going to just rush
40:52
Speaker 1: for primarily, you need a good five or honestly a
40:58
Speaker 1: good six dude across the board on the defensive line.
41:02
Speaker 1: You need a legit starting four and then two of
41:04
Speaker 1: your backups gotta be dudes in some way. Again, Philly,
41:07
Speaker 1: I think is the extreme example because they hit on
41:09
Speaker 1: so many. But you've got Jordan Davis, You've got Jalen Carter,
41:13
Speaker 1: You've got Sweat, You've got Graham, you've got Nolan Smith,
41:16
Speaker 1: you've got Milton Williams. Even, oh what's his face? Who
41:21
Speaker 1: I really liked at Texas and whose name is escaping
41:26
Speaker 1: me right now from a couple of years ago. I
41:29
Speaker 1: have to look it up. This is gonna drive me insane.
41:33
Speaker 1: Moro Ajomo, thank you number ninety seven, Like even he
41:37
Speaker 1: had a strong year for Philly, like they had. Just
41:38
Speaker 1: everyone they cycled in was having an impact. You need
41:40
Speaker 1: to have like a good five or six, or if
41:42
Speaker 1: you're Philly, like seven or eight guys who can affect
41:45
Speaker 1: the game in some way, shape or form. If you're
41:47
Speaker 1: just gonna rely on the defensive line to do work.
41:49
Speaker 1: And the Bills have not had that. Paison saying Josh Sweat,
41:54
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, Kenneth Grant, and I'll be good. I think
41:56
Speaker 1: that'd be fine. Sorry, Dave. Dave says, rip the good
41:59
Speaker 1: Savers two thousand and five to two thousand and six.
42:01
Speaker 1: Too soon and too soon, I know, I know. This
42:05
Speaker 1: is a good one from Miller Defensive Player of the
42:08
Speaker 1: Year twenty twenty four. He says Dwayne Carter made some
42:10
Speaker 1: plays early. Dwayne Carter flashed well against the Texans. I
42:15
Speaker 1: do not think he had a good year in any way,
42:18
Speaker 1: shape or form. I don't think you can make concrete
42:23
Speaker 1: decisions or judgments on any rookie really until year three.
42:26
Speaker 1: There's so much that goes into adjusting to the NFL
42:28
Speaker 1: from a physical standpoint, but also just from the mental standpoint, right,
42:31
Speaker 1: And I do know he has a good, strong mental
42:32
Speaker 1: makeup to having success in the NFL. My issue with
42:36
Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter is I thought his ceiling coming in and
42:41
Speaker 1: coming out of Duke last year was like I thought,
42:44
Speaker 1: his high end upside was being a rotational player, like
42:47
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle three on a team, which can be fine. Right,
42:49
Speaker 1: you got him in round three. If he can be
42:51
Speaker 1: a solid defensive tackle three in a rotation, maybe fill
42:54
Speaker 1: in for some guys that are injured above him from
42:55
Speaker 1: time to time, but just being in a solid top three,
42:57
Speaker 1: that's fine. I ain't calling card for me. Was as
43:01
Speaker 1: juice as a pass rusher, which he did not have.
43:03
Speaker 1: You didn't see it on tape, you didn't see it
43:04
Speaker 1: in the metrics, you didn't see it anywhere. And then
43:06
Speaker 1: he was just getting blown off the ball against the
43:08
Speaker 1: run consistently, like double teams were knocking him back. He's
43:11
Speaker 1: getting displaced horizontally, he's getting knocked backwards. I am very
43:17
Speaker 1: much still wait and see because it's only a rookie year.
43:18
Speaker 1: You never know. We could turn around in year two
43:21
Speaker 1: and build and go from there. Right But if you
43:25
Speaker 1: told me they were ready to cut bait on Dwayne
43:26
Speaker 1: Carter right now and he's not on the team in
43:28
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, I would be fine with that. Like
43:30
Speaker 1: that's how disappointed. I wasn't concerned with his play. I'm
43:33
Speaker 1: not advocating for that, but if they did it, I
43:36
Speaker 1: would not be opposed. But they need something from him,
43:40
Speaker 1: Like right now, I'm looking at the defensive tackle room
43:42
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing Ed Oliver, who's a legitimate starter. I'd
43:45
Speaker 1: like Daikwon Jones to be more of defensive tackle three
43:48
Speaker 1: and be more of a rotational guy so they can
43:51
Speaker 1: sign someone legit and free agency like DJ Jones or
43:54
Speaker 1: if you want to draft someone at the end of
43:56
Speaker 1: the first round or even in the second who could
43:58
Speaker 1: be a starter alongside Ed if you can get Ed
44:01
Speaker 1: and a legit starter next to Ed, and then Daikon
44:04
Speaker 1: Jones is your defensive tackle three. This grouping is a
44:07
Speaker 1: strong grouping dayk Onon Jones had a better year last
44:09
Speaker 1: year than he got credit for, but I think it
44:12
Speaker 1: was more of a high end rotational role than a
44:15
Speaker 1: full time starter role, especially after what he was a
44:17
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, which was like genuinely on an
44:19
Speaker 1: all pro trajectory. But if Carter can be that edge four,
44:23
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, defensive tackle four, I don't really know at
44:25
Speaker 1: this point. I was very disappointed with the season that
44:29
Speaker 1: he had, but kind of we'll see what he is
44:32
Speaker 1: going forward. Paithan saying I want a young nose tackle
44:34
Speaker 1: that we can plug on our line for the next decade. Yes,
44:38
Speaker 1: those are electric following earlier and me saying, agreed. Change
44:42
Speaker 1: the style slash body types we have favored of the
44:43
Speaker 1: last five to six years on the D line. I
44:45
Speaker 1: know it's worked to a degree, but it's just it
44:50
Speaker 1: doesn't play and doesn't track against higher end teams. Then
44:53
Speaker 1: we've seen that legitimately with how they want to play schematically,
44:56
Speaker 1: so you either need to tweak the scheme right or
45:00
Speaker 1: get the horses to run the scheme you want to run.
45:03
Speaker 1: But Charles saying we need at least two legit draft
45:06
Speaker 1: investments into the D line, I kind of don't disagree
45:09
Speaker 1: with that. Jordan K Say and Javon Solomon, I like
45:12
Speaker 1: what he showed in some flashes last year. I just
45:15
Speaker 1: think it's hard to expect a lot out of him
45:17
Speaker 1: this year. Like going into this year and thinking like, Okay,
45:19
Speaker 1: Javon Solomon's gonna be, you know, a top four edge
45:22
Speaker 1: on this Bill's team and give you meaningful snaps, especially
45:25
Speaker 1: with how much of an outlier he is and a
45:27
Speaker 1: lot of size categories. It's just a significant question. I
45:30
Speaker 1: would love it if he is an answer, but I'm
45:35
Speaker 1: still very much wait and see on him. He showed
45:36
Speaker 1: some nice flashes, you know, when he got opportunities, especially
45:39
Speaker 1: against some run and some pass rush pop as well,
45:41
Speaker 1: and he had a really good move set and plan
45:44
Speaker 1: in college. Granted was more siloed in terms of just
45:46
Speaker 1: running the corner and trying to beat guys around the edge.
45:48
Speaker 1: I thought he needed to develop more of an inside
45:50
Speaker 1: move or multiple moves and transitions, which he did a
45:53
Speaker 1: little in the preseason. I'm encouraged by what he showed
45:57
Speaker 1: last year, but I'm in no position to be like
46:00
Speaker 1: he showed enough that I'm ready for him to be
46:03
Speaker 1: a top four edge in the rotation right now. Charles says,
46:08
Speaker 1: straight up for Kenneth Green, I think that's fair. Another
46:13
Speaker 1: comment for Poona Ford, Oh Python, this is good. Replace
46:16
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips with Jordan Phillips, the defensive tackle from Maryland.
46:18
Speaker 2: I like that.
46:19
Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna be a popular joke
46:20
Speaker 1: for a lot of people throughout the offseason. Marty says
46:27
Speaker 1: the Bills draft and develp culture is great for sustained success.
46:30
Speaker 1: It's easy to envy the Eagles and Rams for Super
46:32
Speaker 1: Bowl wins, but they also had multiple years of missing
46:34
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Just need to stop knocking and break down
46:37
Speaker 1: the door. I think that's very fair. Bill's vets sustained success,
46:41
Speaker 1: and like I said earlier, they're a good football team.
46:43
Speaker 1: They just haven't been able to get over the hump.
46:45
Speaker 1: So they just need some tweaks and some changes a
46:46
Speaker 1: little bit to finally get over there. They don't need
46:48
Speaker 1: to completely tear down everything because it's not broken. Their
46:51
Speaker 1: their process, their ideas, their philosophies, the team, none of
46:54
Speaker 1: that is broken. They just need to get over that
46:58
Speaker 1: hop a little bit. Love this comment from Steve saying
47:02
Speaker 1: we need a defensive Aaron Kromer. Development on the defensive
47:06
Speaker 1: line has been slow and far less than the old line.
47:08
Speaker 1: I think this is part of it, too, right, And
47:09
Speaker 1: going into the comment earlier in this episode, I think
47:12
Speaker 1: it's a combination of not getting dudes, like having the
47:17
Speaker 1: guys that they prioritize, whether it's body types or just
47:19
Speaker 1: skill set not necessarily panning out with how they wanted
47:22
Speaker 1: them to. But also the guys that they have brought
47:24
Speaker 1: in haven't necessarily developed to the level that you would
47:28
Speaker 1: want them to. So I think it's a combination of
47:31
Speaker 1: a lot of things. And yeah, I feel you on that. Oh,
47:33
Speaker 1: I see. It's funny to go back and see what
47:36
Speaker 1: the chat was doing when I was trying to think
47:38
Speaker 1: of things, and I see everybody answering when I was
47:41
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a Jomo, and so I just
47:43
Speaker 1: see like Milton Williams and then a Jomo and then
47:45
Speaker 1: Zach Bond and then a Jomo, Like, I appreciate everybody
47:47
Speaker 1: trying to help me out, but I wasn't looking at
47:49
Speaker 1: the chat at that point. Think it very much. Kamory
47:52
Speaker 1: says allegedly two percent pressure rate from Carter through the year. Yeah,
47:55
Speaker 1: and I also think he had like a pass used
47:57
Speaker 1: productivity of like two point something or three points something.
48:01
Speaker 1: It was it was really minimal, like significantly low, like
48:06
Speaker 1: literally significantly low, really bad. But again, one year, we'll
48:11
Speaker 1: kind of see what happens. But I'm not I would
48:14
Speaker 1: love for him to be defensive tackle four. But even that, like,
48:18
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical right now as of this moment, Taylor saying,
48:24
Speaker 1: is Ed too small? No, I don't think so. It
48:27
Speaker 1: depends on well, it depends on what you're looking for,
48:29
Speaker 1: Like if if you value bigger guys than yeah, he
48:32
Speaker 1: probably is too small. But I think he holds himself
48:35
Speaker 1: up against the run better than he gets credit for,
48:38
Speaker 1: and his juice in getting penetration and causing havoc. He
48:41
Speaker 1: had a great game against Kansas City, Like, he had
48:43
Speaker 1: a tremendous game against the run and the pass against
48:45
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I don't think Ed is too small. I
48:47
Speaker 1: think Ed is a good defensive tackle, you know, and
48:50
Speaker 1: didn't turn into Aaron Donald like everybody wanted him to.
48:53
Speaker 1: And maybe isn't on the not even maybe he's not
48:55
Speaker 1: on the level of like Jeffrey Simmons and Chris Jones
48:58
Speaker 1: and these two game wreckers and these true games a
49:00
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. But I think Ed Oliver is a very
49:02
Speaker 1: good player on the defensive line. Sorry, I had to
49:09
Speaker 1: mute that why I coughed a little bit. Taylor says
49:12
Speaker 1: Jared Verse didn't need development. Very true, but Jared Verse
49:15
Speaker 1: was very much just plug and play like good fine
49:20
Speaker 1: tuned athlete who plays with speed to power that translates well.
49:25
Speaker 1: And again, if those dudes fall to you, that's awesome, right,
49:29
Speaker 1: Like I mean, Jared Verse going into the draft process
49:32
Speaker 1: was for a lot of people like a top ten prospect.
49:34
Speaker 1: Him falling as far as he did was a significant
49:37
Speaker 1: fall he and again this is easy to say in hindsight,
49:41
Speaker 1: but he should not have fallen like there there. I
49:45
Speaker 1: don't know why he did. He should not have fallen.
49:48
Speaker 1: Jared Verse was a stud who just whether it was
49:51
Speaker 1: the run on quarterbacks or whatever team needs, YadA YadA.
49:55
Speaker 1: Him falling should not have happened like Jared versus one
49:58
Speaker 1: of like the top ten dudes in that draft class,
50:01
Speaker 1: and he fell and he played like it like that's
50:03
Speaker 1: a that's a legitimate dude. And especially with his style
50:06
Speaker 1: right that speed to power, athleticism, juice that he plays with,
50:10
Speaker 1: that's all he relied on in year one. It wasn't
50:12
Speaker 1: a ton of moves. It was just him being like,
50:14
Speaker 1: I'm gonna line up in a wide alignment and I'm
50:16
Speaker 1: gonna run through your face and your chest and if
50:17
Speaker 1: you can stop it, cool, but good luck. And that's
50:20
Speaker 1: just what it is. But yeah, a lot of uh
50:26
Speaker 1: saying ed being rear naked choked in front of the
50:28
Speaker 1: ref like five times during that case game. I appreciate
50:30
Speaker 1: this wrestling reference. This is very good. I like this
50:32
Speaker 1: a lot. I like that at um let Us and
50:38
Speaker 1: Sally be saying we have no road graders on the
50:39
Speaker 1: interior defensive line. I think that's a good way to
50:41
Speaker 1: look at it. Give me more road graders, more sand
50:44
Speaker 1: right on that defensive line, more great, I think would
50:46
Speaker 1: be nice, especially on the interior on the outside. Give
50:48
Speaker 1: me more juice and bend and athleticism. Chris says, I
50:51
Speaker 1: know the talk right now is on the line what
50:52
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the secondary? Good question, Chris, And
50:55
Speaker 1: that's a good transition to the secondary. Let me take
50:58
Speaker 1: a drink of water because I been holding off coughing
51:00
Speaker 1: for about fifteen minutes. Okay, I'm back, thank you. All right,
51:08
Speaker 1: So this is funny from Steve saying Jared versus Love's
51:11
Speaker 1: Philadelphia fans. Isn't also crazy too that like the Eagles
51:15
Speaker 1: just housed the Chiefs and the Rams were so close
51:20
Speaker 1: to beating the Eagles, Like the Rams had a legitimate
51:23
Speaker 1: chance to win that game, and like you could have
51:24
Speaker 1: made the case that they should have or could have.
51:26
Speaker 1: Like just crazy how that game will probably get forgotten.
51:30
Speaker 1: The Bills almost beating Kansas City will be talking about
51:32
Speaker 1: a bunch. Rams were so close to beating Philly in Philly,
51:36
Speaker 1: in the weather, in the elements, all that crazy stuff. Man,
51:39
Speaker 1: Rams are a fun team. But yes, let's talk secondary.
51:44
Speaker 1: Uh oh, starting to cough. That's not a good sign,
51:46
Speaker 1: all right, The secondary as a whole, cornerback safety my
51:52
Speaker 1: conversation really when it comes to the secondary, it's going
51:54
Speaker 1: to tie into scheme as well. But you know, I
52:00
Speaker 1: think this defense needs more man coverage, not primarily man coverage.
52:05
Speaker 1: Which no one really is going to do in the NFL.
52:07
Speaker 1: But they need more man coverage mixed in, especially on
52:09
Speaker 1: high leverage situations, whether it's you know, red zone stuff
52:12
Speaker 1: or like third downs, mixing it within and yeah, mixing
52:15
Speaker 1: with different coverages, fronts, all that kind of stuff. But
52:17
Speaker 1: they think they need more of a man coverage presence,
52:20
Speaker 1: more disguised fronts, more disguised pressure looks along with coverage,
52:26
Speaker 1: more disguised coverage wink wick nudge nudge, more late rotations,
52:29
Speaker 1: and creative post snap spins. So just more of a
52:32
Speaker 1: mental taxing on quarterbacks. What is nice is the Bills
52:38
Speaker 1: defense is very balanced in terms of the coverage as
52:40
Speaker 1: they play, whether it's two high stuff or single high stuff.
52:43
Speaker 1: So they can be single high and do Cover one
52:44
Speaker 1: Cover three. They can go too high and it can
52:46
Speaker 1: be Cover two, it can be Cover four, it can
52:50
Speaker 1: be quarters, it can be Cover six. They can seamlessly
52:53
Speaker 1: transition from either you know, you can ad a Cover
52:57
Speaker 1: three present like Cover six. In terms of what they're doing,
53:00
Speaker 1: how they're spinning, and what they're doing. They are balanced
53:03
Speaker 1: in the coverages they play overall, from two high structures
53:07
Speaker 1: and single structures, but would like them to again work
53:11
Speaker 1: in more man coverage and work in more of the
53:13
Speaker 1: creativity pieces in terms of who's dropping, who's spinning, not
53:17
Speaker 1: just on the defensive line, but more non traditional Tampa
53:20
Speaker 1: stuff or cover two stuff where that middle Tampa player
53:23
Speaker 1: or pole runner is somebody unexpected, and how you're getting
53:27
Speaker 1: to your coverages when and how and how you're dialing
53:30
Speaker 1: them up. I think the more creative defenses are being
53:34
Speaker 1: rewarded in today's NFL because of their ability to change
53:37
Speaker 1: the pre to POSTNAT picture. Now you have to be
53:39
Speaker 1: effective when you do it, doing it just to do it,
53:41
Speaker 1: and getting burned isn't going to get you anywhere. But
53:43
Speaker 1: I would like to see some more creativity within that
53:46
Speaker 1: also give me more athleticism and again man coverage capability
53:51
Speaker 1: on the back end. The secondary as a whole my
53:54
Speaker 1: biggest thing for them this offseason and kind of the
53:56
Speaker 1: blanket statement I'm going to keep making about the secondary.
54:00
Speaker 1: The secondary needs more juice, and if we're just comparing
54:02
Speaker 1: it to twenty twenty four tomorrow, Hamlin and Taylor rapid
54:06
Speaker 1: safety aren't the most fleetest, aren't the fleetest of foot
54:11
Speaker 1: at safety, Neither specialize in range or man coverage. Capability
54:15
Speaker 1: or speed. I would like a safety who has more
54:18
Speaker 1: of a post safety, single high presence. This does not
54:22
Speaker 1: necessarily have to mean pure speed or athleticism. Right, You
54:25
Speaker 1: don't need the guy who runs a four to three
54:27
Speaker 1: or a four four. Micah Hyde wasn't a four to
54:29
Speaker 1: three or a four to four guy, but he was
54:30
Speaker 1: great at reading quarterbacks, reading route distributions, and his angles
54:33
Speaker 1: to the football. It's why he was so effective as
54:37
Speaker 1: a single high post safety. And even Poyer could do
54:39
Speaker 1: some of that stuff too. Like their interchangeability and versatility
54:42
Speaker 1: at safety and removing the free and strong labels from safety.
54:48
Speaker 1: I see that from Ralph Saint being as allergic to juice.
54:50
Speaker 1: I like that. You know Poyer and Hyder at the
54:53
Speaker 1: forefront of removing free and strong from safety, and just
54:57
Speaker 1: you just have two safeties. But Hide was more of
54:59
Speaker 1: the host range type of safety in my eye. Oh
55:04
Speaker 1: sorry cough, but secondary needs more juice. We'd start with
55:08
Speaker 1: safety handlin rap not the fleet is to foot. Neither
55:11
Speaker 1: specialize in range or man coverage, capability or speed at
55:15
Speaker 1: that safety spot. Right, Rasseul Douglas Christian Benford are both
55:19
Speaker 1: more technical and physical than they are juice and athleticism.
55:22
Speaker 1: Benford more juice and athleticism than Rasseul Douglas, but not
55:28
Speaker 1: really a juice upper athletic guy. Taron Johnson is a
55:30
Speaker 1: mix of everything in an all pro so he's fine.
55:32
Speaker 1: I got no qualms of Taron Johnson, but in an
55:35
Speaker 1: effort to get more schematically diverse in twenty twenty five
55:38
Speaker 1: and be more fluid in their approach versus top tier teams,
55:42
Speaker 1: I think the Bills defense needs more tools in the
55:44
Speaker 1: toolbox and the secondary along with the defensive line. Like
55:47
Speaker 1: some of the pieces what we talked about. Now, I've
55:50
Speaker 1: said that I want to say this next piece, and
55:52
Speaker 1: this is a very important piece. They cannot sacrifice schematic
55:57
Speaker 1: familiarity for traits to the degree they did with Kyer Elam.
56:02
Speaker 1: Kyri Elam was a pick based on traits, where the
56:05
Speaker 1: thought was he could be coached and molded into the
56:08
Speaker 1: corner that they wanted. But they leaned too far into
56:11
Speaker 1: the traits and too far away from schematic familiarity, and
56:16
Speaker 1: also maybe underestimated how important it was for Elam in
56:19
Speaker 1: college that illegal contact is a penalty, with how gravy
56:22
Speaker 1: and handsy he was throughout releases, throughout stems, throughout breaks,
56:26
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So I do think the secondary needs
56:31
Speaker 1: a bit of a facelook. The safety combination is going
56:33
Speaker 1: to be interesting, right if we start from there, Actually
56:35
Speaker 1: don't start from kind of the front back Rasoul Douglass.
56:40
Speaker 1: Last year they restructured his contract and had the void years,
56:44
Speaker 1: but didn't extend him. Once they did that last offseason,
56:47
Speaker 1: that was kind of a signaling to me that he
56:50
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be coming back. And there is now
56:52
Speaker 1: he might and maybe he's going to be corner three
56:54
Speaker 1: or corner four, and he comes back at a very
56:56
Speaker 1: cost effective type of deal. But I would like to
56:59
Speaker 1: go a different direction. It's CB two. If he comes
57:01
Speaker 1: back and he is CEB two along with Benford, it's
57:05
Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world. I just think
57:07
Speaker 1: Douglas has lost the step a little bit and his
57:10
Speaker 1: signing isn't necessarily the move in towards in terms of
57:13
Speaker 1: that man coverage direction, more juice and athleticism that I
57:17
Speaker 1: would like in the secondary. He's still a good player.
57:20
Speaker 1: He's a good forced player against the run. He's a
57:22
Speaker 1: good fitter against the run. He's good, he's physical, he's
57:25
Speaker 1: smart in zone coverage. I do think he had a
57:27
Speaker 1: bit of a down year last year in zone overall,
57:29
Speaker 1: like the areas where he's been strongest, he was a
57:31
Speaker 1: bit down last year. And then he just doesn't necessarily
57:36
Speaker 1: have the skill set or traits that I'm looking for
57:38
Speaker 1: at CB two. But if for soul Douglas comes back,
57:40
Speaker 1: I'm not holistically opposed to that. Like I still think
57:43
Speaker 1: he's a good corner. I would just rather have him
57:45
Speaker 1: be like a corner three. So that being sad, and
57:48
Speaker 1: again I'm going to talk about some corner free agent
57:51
Speaker 1: targets in the film room tomorrow. But with Ryan Nielsen
57:55
Speaker 1: coming in as a defensive assistant, I expect more press
57:58
Speaker 1: the Jags or one. I think we're number three in
58:01
Speaker 1: press coverage snaps last year. Monterrek Brown was second, Tyson
58:04
Speaker 1: Campbell was six. The year before when he was with
58:07
Speaker 1: the Falcons as their defensive coordinator, AJ Terrell led the
58:10
Speaker 1: league in press snaps. Jeff Akuda was like nineteenth. I
58:13
Speaker 1: think the Falcon Falcons overall were second in press snaps.
58:16
Speaker 1: I expect to see more press. I expect to see
58:19
Speaker 1: more man. Now, press does not necessarily mean man, and
58:23
Speaker 1: press does also not necessarily mean jamming. You can press,
58:26
Speaker 1: and you can mirror, you can soft shoe press a
58:29
Speaker 1: guy where on the snap instead of getting your hands
58:31
Speaker 1: on him and immediately trying to reroute, you are more
58:35
Speaker 1: mirroring his steps, and you're playing more leverage and mirroring
58:39
Speaker 1: or mimicking the wide receiver's movements. So there's multiple ways
58:42
Speaker 1: to play press. But I expect more of that. I
58:45
Speaker 1: expect more of the secondary in the corners, in particular
58:49
Speaker 1: closing down and restricting airspace pre snap and immediately on
58:53
Speaker 1: that post snap. I used to expect some things like
58:56
Speaker 1: you get some press bail or get some off coverage
58:58
Speaker 1: and they'll come up, or you'll get some off coverage
59:00
Speaker 1: and they'll sit kind of right at that spot and
59:02
Speaker 1: spot and play maybe some more some catchman or some
59:05
Speaker 1: scooch technique stuff like that. But I do expect more press.
59:09
Speaker 1: I do expect more restricted airspace, just given the changes
59:13
Speaker 1: to the defense this year. Even then bringing in the
59:15
Speaker 1: guy from the Pats whose name escapes me right now,
59:18
Speaker 1: what do the Pats do a ton of the past
59:21
Speaker 1: several years. I think this guy was with the Pats
59:22
Speaker 1: like ten years. What does the Pats secondary do all
59:24
Speaker 1: the time? Man coverage like left and right, and also
59:27
Speaker 1: different spins and versatility on the back end. I just
59:30
Speaker 1: expect more man coverage from this defense, and I expect
59:33
Speaker 1: more press and I am in favor of both of
59:35
Speaker 1: those things being woven into their current defensive ideology and philosophy,
59:40
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing. So with that
59:42
Speaker 1: being said, I don't expect for School Douglas back, and
59:45
Speaker 1: I expect them to invest in corner either on day
59:48
Speaker 1: one or day two, or sign someone in free agency
59:53
Speaker 1: that can play some semblance of significance, either in that
59:55
Speaker 1: skill setor role, or who's a legitimate CB two. Now
1:00:00
Speaker 1: getting to the safety spot. Safety for me is really
1:00:08
Speaker 1: tricky this year because I don't dislike Cole Bishop as
1:00:14
Speaker 1: a player. I still just don't like his fit with
1:00:17
Speaker 1: this team. I continue to give this example. I thought
1:00:22
Speaker 1: he was better and at his best in and around
1:00:25
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and the box. That's it went
1:00:27
Speaker 1: from his tape at Utah. Now, this does not mean
1:00:31
Speaker 1: that he can't also be good getting further away from
1:00:33
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. It doesn't mean that he can't
1:00:35
Speaker 1: be a post safety. He certainly has the speed and
1:00:37
Speaker 1: the athleticism and the juice for it. It doesn't mean
1:00:40
Speaker 1: that he can't function in match coverages and too high
1:00:42
Speaker 1: stuff a regular zone, all these things, right, I'm not
1:00:44
Speaker 1: saying any of that. I'm just saying I think he
1:00:46
Speaker 1: was best suited to be in and around the line
1:00:48
Speaker 1: of scrimmage or to be like a big nickel apex
1:00:51
Speaker 1: type of player, and I think that's where he was
1:00:53
Speaker 1: at his best for the Bills. He was at his best,
1:00:55
Speaker 1: you know, coming down from the safety spot and fitting
1:00:59
Speaker 1: the run right, knowing how to leverage wide receivers trying
1:01:03
Speaker 1: to crack on him and be able to stay free,
1:01:06
Speaker 1: keep an eye on them, absorb the block and still
1:01:08
Speaker 1: fit and still make plays coming down from the top
1:01:12
Speaker 1: or just blitzing from the slot or being in and
1:01:15
Speaker 1: around the box. I think of that Detroit game with
1:01:17
Speaker 1: how he was just setting the tone initially, I think
1:01:20
Speaker 1: he is best in and around the box. Again, development
1:01:23
Speaker 1: trajectory coaching. The Bills are great with secondary play, YadA, YadA, YadA.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: He could get better in that regard, but I'm still
1:01:29
Speaker 1: questionable on Cole Bishop's fit with the Bills. Then you
1:01:32
Speaker 1: bring in Taylor Rap. Now I do like Taylor Rap,
1:01:38
Speaker 1: and I see some of the comments coming in through
1:01:39
Speaker 1: the chat, Rap erased so many potential big gains and
1:01:43
Speaker 1: runs last year coming from the top down just being
1:01:49
Speaker 1: able to fit the run. And again it's not ideal, right,
1:01:52
Speaker 1: but there were runs that the Bills gave up that
1:01:54
Speaker 1: were eight yards, ten yards, eleven yards, twelve yards that
1:01:57
Speaker 1: could have been fifty yard house calls if not for
1:01:58
Speaker 1: Taylor Rap. He's a good communicator and he is a
1:02:02
Speaker 1: glue guy on the back end for this defense, and
1:02:05
Speaker 1: I do think he is important. However, if a good
1:02:09
Speaker 1: safety falls in the draft, I have no problem with
1:02:12
Speaker 1: the Bills taking him and then maybe cutting Taylor Rap
1:02:15
Speaker 1: post June first and save three million dollars. Now hold on,
1:02:19
Speaker 1: I'm gonnat mute this because that have to cough again oit.
1:02:24
Speaker 1: So I do think that is potentially on the table.
1:02:27
Speaker 1: I don't hate the idea of a Coal Bishop Taylor
1:02:29
Speaker 1: Rap safety tandem. I just despite how athletic Coal Bishop is, right,
1:02:36
Speaker 1: I just think I think you commented this earlier and
1:02:39
Speaker 1: I missed it. Bills are electric, says drafts safe? You
1:02:41
Speaker 1: or watch from Notre Dame. Yeah, there's your post safety
1:02:43
Speaker 1: right there who specializes in coverage. My trepidation with a
1:02:48
Speaker 1: Coal Bishop Taylor Rap combination is. I think they're more
1:02:54
Speaker 1: similar and redundant, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Then
1:02:57
Speaker 1: they are different, and that doesn't necessarily have to They
1:03:00
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to be different. But I think neither
1:03:04
Speaker 1: of them. Rap is good from a mental standpoint, reading
1:03:09
Speaker 1: route distributions, adjusting the coverage, like communicating to the guys
1:03:12
Speaker 1: in front of him, but he doesn't have the foot
1:03:14
Speaker 1: speed or the athleticism. If you can put Taylor Rap's
1:03:16
Speaker 1: brain into Coal Bishop, that would absolutely be tremendous, but
1:03:20
Speaker 1: or gives like cold Bishop's juice and athleticism to Taylor
1:03:23
Speaker 1: Rap's body, that would be great. But I think they're
1:03:27
Speaker 1: more redundant than they are different in the sense that
1:03:30
Speaker 1: I think both of them are better from a physical
1:03:33
Speaker 1: standpoint and better in and around the box. Rap gets
1:03:37
Speaker 1: things done on the back ends, like a deep deeper
1:03:39
Speaker 1: safety because of his headiness, his intelligence, his ability to
1:03:43
Speaker 1: recognize route distributions, formations alignment, how well he studies, and
1:03:47
Speaker 1: how smart he is, but he still isn't the most
1:03:50
Speaker 1: fleet of foot, doesn't have a lot of athleticism. I
1:03:53
Speaker 1: don't play Madden anymore, but he makes me think of
1:03:54
Speaker 1: like a safety that has like an eighty three or
1:03:56
Speaker 1: an eighty four Madden speed, and like that's that for me.
1:03:59
Speaker 1: I don't like, like that's not good enough. Now, you
1:04:02
Speaker 1: could be the fastest, most juiced up athletic dude in
1:04:04
Speaker 1: the world, but if you don't know how to study
1:04:07
Speaker 1: tape and you don't know how to diagnose and key
1:04:09
Speaker 1: and process, all the speed and juice and athleticism in
1:04:12
Speaker 1: the world isn't really gonna help you too much if
1:04:14
Speaker 1: you're out of position and you don't know where you
1:04:15
Speaker 1: need to be. So I kind of put these two
1:04:20
Speaker 1: into an interesting box where, especially for me, where I
1:04:23
Speaker 1: would like more range in at least one of the safeties.
1:04:27
Speaker 1: Like I think Cole Bishop has range from an athleticism
1:04:30
Speaker 1: and like foot speed standpoint, I don't think he has
1:04:35
Speaker 1: it right now in terms of a processing standpoint and
1:04:37
Speaker 1: an angles to the football standpoint. Now, he could get
1:04:40
Speaker 1: there in year two or year three, but right now
1:04:43
Speaker 1: that's just where like my trepidation is. And then from
1:04:45
Speaker 1: a Taylor Rapp standpoint, I think he has the angles
1:04:49
Speaker 1: down and the recognition and the processing and the diagnosing,
1:04:52
Speaker 1: but I don't think he has the foot speed or
1:04:54
Speaker 1: the juice to get there. So that's my only issue
1:04:57
Speaker 1: with safety, And then you put that in with kind
1:05:00
Speaker 1: of what I mentioned earlier. I do think Cole Bishop
1:05:02
Speaker 1: is a guy who can man up against tight ends,
1:05:04
Speaker 1: who could potentially man up against some bigger slot type
1:05:07
Speaker 1: of receivers, cover some running backs, that type of deal.
1:05:09
Speaker 1: But then again, if Bishop is in and around the
1:05:12
Speaker 1: box and he's manning up on guys, say you're playing
1:05:15
Speaker 1: cover one right, which is single high coverage one safety
1:05:18
Speaker 1: in the post and then man coverage underneath, right, that
1:05:22
Speaker 1: means if Bishop is that up safety and he's man
1:05:26
Speaker 1: covering against the tight end or running back or slot
1:05:28
Speaker 1: or whatever, that means Taylor Rap is the single high
1:05:31
Speaker 1: post safety on the back end. And I don't love
1:05:33
Speaker 1: that because I don't think Taylor Rap is best suited
1:05:35
Speaker 1: to be a single high post safety. Now if because
1:05:38
Speaker 1: of his range and lack of athleticism and speed, Now,
1:05:41
Speaker 1: if you flip them right, Bishop has more of the
1:05:45
Speaker 1: foot speed and the athleticism to be the single high
1:05:47
Speaker 1: post safety, just doesn't necessarily have the angles down, the
1:05:50
Speaker 1: recognition that diagnosing and the processing and then wrap being
1:05:55
Speaker 1: that up. Safety again doesn't really have the athleticism or
1:05:59
Speaker 1: the man coverage shop to man up against a lot
1:06:01
Speaker 1: of tight nds or different running backs or different slot
1:06:03
Speaker 1: body types in that type of deal. So I think
1:06:06
Speaker 1: that's a really interesting piece. And then on top of that, oh,
1:06:09
Speaker 1: bills are electric. You are in my head if oh, sorry, cough,
1:06:13
Speaker 1: hold on now, if Damar Hamlin does not return as
1:06:18
Speaker 1: Bills are electric says the Bills need a safety number
1:06:20
Speaker 1: three as well. That's also a very good point. I
1:06:23
Speaker 1: think DeMar Hamlin's a good safety three. I don't think
1:06:25
Speaker 1: he's a starter in this league, or if he is
1:06:27
Speaker 1: a starter, he needs to be a starter alongside like
1:06:32
Speaker 1: a legitimate safety, like you have to pair him with
1:06:34
Speaker 1: like Jesse Bates, someone who is a good overall safety
1:06:37
Speaker 1: and who also has range and anticipation in diagnosing and
1:06:41
Speaker 1: processing all in one. Like you need to pair him
1:06:44
Speaker 1: with a legitimate safety like you gotta pair him with
1:06:46
Speaker 1: like Antoine Winfield or you know somebody like that who's
1:06:49
Speaker 1: a top tier type of safety. I don't think Tomorrow
1:06:51
Speaker 1: is bad. I just don't think he's fit to be
1:06:53
Speaker 1: a regular starter unless he's being paired with someone who's
1:06:58
Speaker 1: just one of the best at that position. But to
1:07:00
Speaker 1: this comment and to my notes that's next up here.
1:07:03
Speaker 1: If Demr Hamlin does not return, Yes, the Bills do
1:07:06
Speaker 1: need a safety three. So that could come in the draft,
1:07:09
Speaker 1: that could come in free agency. Who knows. Maybe the
1:07:12
Speaker 1: Bills are going to blow everyone away and they're going
1:07:14
Speaker 1: to sign Javon Holland, which I don't think makes a
1:07:16
Speaker 1: ton of sense. But I love Javon Hollin, so I
1:07:18
Speaker 1: will not be opposed to this idea, but I do
1:07:23
Speaker 1: think the safety room needs addressing potentially. Again, I'm fine
1:07:31
Speaker 1: with Bishop and Rap. I'm not opposed to them bringing
1:07:35
Speaker 1: back Hamlin. And then it's again a camp competition and
1:07:37
Speaker 1: we see what happens. But I really just don't I
1:07:41
Speaker 1: don't love the idea of like rapping Hamlin starting together again.
1:07:44
Speaker 1: I don't love the idea of Bishop and Hamlin starting together.
1:07:47
Speaker 1: I don't mind Bishop and Rap. I like both players individually.
1:07:51
Speaker 1: I just don't like when I'm talking in you know,
1:07:54
Speaker 1: both players, I mean Cole Bishop and Taylor Rap. I
1:07:56
Speaker 1: like both players individually, I don't necessarily like they're fit
1:08:02
Speaker 1: in the Bills defense, and they're fit together as a
1:08:04
Speaker 1: safety tandem, if that makes sense. So it's a weird
1:08:07
Speaker 1: spot for me when it comes to this safety grouping
1:08:12
Speaker 1: Taylor saying Hamlin is better than Rap, but the question
1:08:14
Speaker 1: mark no, not for me. I think Taylor Rap is
1:08:18
Speaker 1: a better safety than DeMar Hamlin at this point, and
1:08:23
Speaker 1: just with how limited a Hamlin's upside is, I think
1:08:25
Speaker 1: it'll kind of always stay that way. Gonna take a drink.
1:08:31
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, biting off the cough, RJ says, I think
1:08:35
Speaker 1: they need to sign a safety and then draft one
1:08:37
Speaker 1: as well. Both need to be more of the center
1:08:39
Speaker 1: fielder type. Yeah, I would like that if I don't
1:08:43
Speaker 1: want to get too ahead of myself, but I do
1:08:44
Speaker 1: have to watch some tape. I know nick Emon Warry
1:08:47
Speaker 1: from South Carolina does some fun stuff. I think he's
1:08:50
Speaker 1: more box safety and in and around the line of
1:08:52
Speaker 1: scrimmage than he is post safety, deep safety type of player.
1:08:56
Speaker 1: But we'll see kind of I have to fully get
1:08:59
Speaker 1: into the tape. I'm not getting ahead myself with that
1:09:00
Speaker 1: or with the next person about to say. But man,
1:09:03
Speaker 1: if Malachi Starks from Georgia is there, and I know
1:09:05
Speaker 1: he had a down year this past year, If Malachi
1:09:08
Speaker 1: Starks from Georgia, that safety is there at pick thirty
1:09:11
Speaker 1: it's going to be really, really, really hard for me
1:09:14
Speaker 1: to say no. And this is actually super funny spin saying,
1:09:19
Speaker 1: if the top safety in the draft falls to our
1:09:20
Speaker 1: first round pick, do we draft them over another position?
1:09:24
Speaker 1: For me, I'm just not where I am in the
1:09:26
Speaker 1: draft class right now. In my I'm still doing free
1:09:28
Speaker 1: agency stuff. I've done a little bit of draft stuff,
1:09:30
Speaker 1: but I'm not in a position right now to speak.
1:09:32
Speaker 1: And I've seen some stuff. Again, I've watched a ton
1:09:35
Speaker 1: of college football during the season, but one broadcast is
1:09:37
Speaker 1: a lie. I need to see it from the all
1:09:39
Speaker 1: twenty two and be able to do my evaluations. And
1:09:41
Speaker 1: I've seen some thoughts from some other people and had
1:09:43
Speaker 1: discussions with people as well, but I'm not going to
1:09:46
Speaker 1: use someone else's evaluation as my own. So it would
1:09:49
Speaker 1: really depend on what else is there. Like if the
1:09:52
Speaker 1: top safety falls, so say Malachi Starks is there, but
1:09:56
Speaker 1: there's also a really good edge or really good defense tackle. Oh, Like,
1:10:02
Speaker 1: that's that's tough for me. Also, free agency is gonna
1:10:04
Speaker 1: depend a lot too, Right If if the Bills go
1:10:07
Speaker 1: and sign Dante Fowler and DJ Jones, then all of
1:10:12
Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm like, you know what we can wait
1:10:14
Speaker 1: till round two. We can we can do you know,
1:10:17
Speaker 1: both round two picks and the round four pick on
1:10:19
Speaker 1: the defensive line, maybe depending on what we want to do.
1:10:22
Speaker 1: But I'm cool with just best player available in round one.
1:10:24
Speaker 1: So it depends on what they do in free agency
1:10:25
Speaker 1: and then who else is there at pick thirty. But
1:10:28
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, man if if Malachi Starts is there
1:10:33
Speaker 1: just based off of what I saw from his tape
1:10:35
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty three in studying other Georgia players and
1:10:39
Speaker 1: then seeing the plays that he's made on broadcast this year, like,
1:10:41
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for me to not just fall
1:10:43
Speaker 1: in love with Malachi Starts and want him to fall
1:10:45
Speaker 1: and pick thirty and then if that happens, you know,
1:10:49
Speaker 1: maybe you're sitting there with you know that that's your
1:10:51
Speaker 1: top three safety group and you see who beats out
1:10:53
Speaker 1: who and where you go from there. I think that
1:10:57
Speaker 1: does throw a bit of a wrench because then who's starting.
1:11:00
Speaker 1: What's your timeline do you sit Starts for this year
1:11:02
Speaker 1: and is Taylor rap and is it raping Bishop? And
1:11:04
Speaker 1: then Starts takes over the next year. But I do
1:11:07
Speaker 1: think Starks fits well just because with match coverage capability,
1:11:10
Speaker 1: man coverage capability, what he can do in the slot
1:11:12
Speaker 1: as well. He had to fill in there a bit
1:11:14
Speaker 1: this year for Georgia because they had some injury, so
1:11:16
Speaker 1: he played that star or that apex role that you know,
1:11:19
Speaker 1: kind of Brian Branch played at Alabama. But Starks is
1:11:24
Speaker 1: more of a true safety than Branch was or is.
1:11:27
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be Oh, it's gonna be tough,
1:11:30
Speaker 1: Taylor says, So we need two starting safeties. That's a
1:11:32
Speaker 1: lot of development. I don't think they necessarily need too.
1:11:35
Speaker 1: I think Bishop and rap are both starting caliber safeties,
1:11:38
Speaker 1: or I think Rap is I think Bishop can be.
1:11:42
Speaker 1: I just don't again, I don't love them as a
1:11:44
Speaker 1: fit together, and then also kind of in this defense
1:11:47
Speaker 1: as a tandem. That's the only thing that kind of
1:11:49
Speaker 1: throws me for a loop. I like them both individually
1:11:51
Speaker 1: as players. I just think they could be better in
1:11:54
Speaker 1: different situations or with a different dancing partner at safety,
1:11:58
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Linebacker. I don't really have too
1:12:02
Speaker 1: many questions other than is how healthy is Matt Milano?
1:12:05
Speaker 1: I am no. I am not at the point where
1:12:07
Speaker 1: I think Dorian Williams needs to start over Matt milanal
1:12:10
Speaker 1: and they sub jettison Matt mlonal out. Milano got much
1:12:13
Speaker 1: better as the season went on, and hopefully with a
1:12:15
Speaker 1: regular offseason and training camp, I think he can get
1:12:19
Speaker 1: back to that impact level that he was pre injury,
1:12:22
Speaker 1: and him and Bernard could be really, really, really fun together.
1:12:25
Speaker 1: And I like the idea of Dorian as three in
1:12:27
Speaker 1: their base looks or just kind of waiting in the
1:12:29
Speaker 1: wings and we see what happens from there. I don't
1:12:31
Speaker 1: have too much at that linebacker spot. I think the
1:12:33
Speaker 1: top three are solid and I'm happy with that. I
1:12:35
Speaker 1: do think Dorian still needs more time on task from
1:12:38
Speaker 1: a coverage standpoint, but I think, you know he has.
1:12:42
Speaker 1: He showed some good development in twenty twenty four and
1:12:46
Speaker 1: made progress that I wasn't sure he was going to make,
1:12:48
Speaker 1: so kudos to him for that. I like the top
1:12:50
Speaker 1: three of Bernard Milano and Dorian Williams kind of sitting
1:12:54
Speaker 1: behind there and going from there. So I don't have
1:12:56
Speaker 1: too much at that linebacker spot. And overall, again, I
1:12:59
Speaker 1: think a lot of the questions obviously on the defense
1:13:01
Speaker 1: side of the ball, off linebacker is good. Then it
1:13:03
Speaker 1: comes to the defensive line and it comes to the secondary,
1:13:06
Speaker 1: and a lot of it again is everything for me,
1:13:09
Speaker 1: and I really think for this team stems from their
1:13:13
Speaker 1: commitment to the current philosophy and ideology when it comes
1:13:17
Speaker 1: to personnel. Do they still want to just look for
1:13:21
Speaker 1: pocket compression guys at edge? Do they still want tweener
1:13:25
Speaker 1: types at defensive tackle? Do they still prioritize zone and
1:13:31
Speaker 1: you know, recognition and responsibility over athleticism and man coverage ability.
1:13:36
Speaker 1: Do they tweak them a little bit? Not necessarily the
1:13:38
Speaker 1: Kyrie Elam level that they did a couple years ago
1:13:39
Speaker 1: because obviously didn't work out, But do they tweak them
1:13:42
Speaker 1: a little bit that corner? What are they doing at safety?
1:13:45
Speaker 1: And then within all of it, how much of the
1:13:46
Speaker 1: schematic changes do we see with the additions that they've
1:13:49
Speaker 1: had in the secondary from a coaching standpoint and from
1:13:52
Speaker 1: Ryan Nielsen being a defensive assistant and what Sean McDermott
1:13:55
Speaker 1: talked about coming out of the Kansas City game, and
1:13:57
Speaker 1: just how much more man do we see? How much
1:13:59
Speaker 1: press do we have schematic changes? If you do have
1:14:02
Speaker 1: schematic changes, you do need to change the body types,
1:14:05
Speaker 1: especially in the secondary along with it. Who do they
1:14:07
Speaker 1: lean into, where do they allocate sources and funds. I
1:14:11
Speaker 1: think there's obviously several questions which we outline within this episode,
1:14:14
Speaker 1: but all of them, I think really start with how
1:14:17
Speaker 1: committed are they to the current ideology and philosophy that
1:14:20
Speaker 1: they have from a player identification and acquisition standpoint, And
1:14:26
Speaker 1: that's really what it's been for the past couple of years.
1:14:28
Speaker 1: For me, I've thought for several years, you need more
1:14:31
Speaker 1: man coverage capability at CB two. You need more man
1:14:35
Speaker 1: and press overall in the secondar aya and be able
1:14:37
Speaker 1: to work that in. But again, you need the horses
1:14:39
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. And then upfront, if
1:14:41
Speaker 1: you're gonna run that system, you need more horses to
1:14:44
Speaker 1: constantly get penetration, to win up front, to win one
1:14:47
Speaker 1: on ones, to get you buckets when you need buckets
1:14:50
Speaker 1: to be pendulum swingers, to move the needle. More than
1:14:54
Speaker 1: just moving the needle, it needs to be in a
1:14:55
Speaker 1: significant fashion. And so it really all stems from there.
1:14:59
Speaker 1: It's fun offseason right again, this team was a Final
1:15:02
Speaker 1: four team. They have some good draft capital. They do
1:15:05
Speaker 1: have some financial flexibility which they can increase with some
1:15:10
Speaker 1: extensions and some cuts which I think will happen in
1:15:12
Speaker 1: which we will outline into a great detail tomorrow in
1:15:15
Speaker 1: the Salary Cap Extravaganza live at nine o'clock again myself
1:15:18
Speaker 1: Greg Thompsatt the air eight hour folks. It will be
1:15:24
Speaker 1: an interesting offseason on this side of the ball offense.
1:15:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be diving into on the back end of
1:15:28
Speaker 1: this week again, if you are just tuning in, I'm
1:15:30
Speaker 1: gonna do this same kind of episode. I think Thursday night,
1:15:33
Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern live here on the channel will do
1:15:37
Speaker 1: the same type of deal for the offense. But I
1:15:40
Speaker 1: think the offense has more fun adjustment and tweaking questions
1:15:45
Speaker 1: than the defense. I don't think the defense needs to
1:15:47
Speaker 1: be completely overhauled, but I think they need more than tweaking.
1:15:51
Speaker 1: I think they need somewhat of a facelift or a reshaping.
1:15:55
Speaker 1: I don't know what word evokes the right severity, but
1:15:59
Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of need to get to
1:16:02
Speaker 1: that spot. And we'll see a question here from Ruffelson
1:16:06
Speaker 1: Senior saying, with Rabel and Glenn in the division, now,
1:16:09
Speaker 1: do you expect power running games coming? If so, should
1:16:13
Speaker 1: the Bills get bigger and cheaper? At the mic hold
1:16:15
Speaker 1: on co oh, I'm falling apart, Yeah, I do. I
1:16:20
Speaker 1: mean I expect more running in general. I think that's
1:16:22
Speaker 1: kind of where the league is going. I expect more
1:16:25
Speaker 1: run games. I expect more gap scheme runs. Also, I
1:16:29
Speaker 1: expect more quick game eventually to come, not just from
1:16:32
Speaker 1: those teams, but from the NFL in general. I expect
1:16:34
Speaker 1: more like kind of three step drop quick game, true
1:16:37
Speaker 1: kind of pre snap structure, safety reading leverage, reading box counts,
1:16:42
Speaker 1: type of deal spacing leverage. I expect that game to
1:16:46
Speaker 1: start to come back a little more as well. That's
1:16:48
Speaker 1: a big thing that's kind of my off season project
1:16:50
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be working on, similar to what I
1:16:52
Speaker 1: did last offseason with condensed formations and noticing things that
1:16:58
Speaker 1: throughout the tape, you know, throughout the tired of the
1:17:00
Speaker 1: year and scouting different teams and evaluating and watching things schematically.
1:17:05
Speaker 1: That led me to the condensed formation and reduce formational
1:17:08
Speaker 1: with aspect last year and body types that I spent
1:17:12
Speaker 1: a lot of the off season talking about on my own,
1:17:14
Speaker 1: doing tape studying episodes, spoke about it with Mina times,
1:17:18
Speaker 1: and did a lot of things with that. But this
1:17:20
Speaker 1: year's projects kind of more quick game that I think
1:17:22
Speaker 1: is going to start to come back in fashion for
1:17:24
Speaker 1: a lot of teams or league wide maybe a little
1:17:27
Speaker 1: bit this year, and pick up going forward. And then
1:17:29
Speaker 1: within that I do, Yeah, I expect more teams to
1:17:32
Speaker 1: start running the football. I expect more twenty one, heavier,
1:17:35
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, six offensive lineman groupings. I expect more power
1:17:40
Speaker 1: running to kind of be coming down the pipe, not
1:17:42
Speaker 1: just within the division but league wide. And then yeah,
1:17:44
Speaker 1: especially knowing Vrabel and Glenn, Yeah, which again is part
1:17:47
Speaker 1: of why you need dudes up front who can hold
1:17:51
Speaker 1: up against the run, Like you need guys who can't
1:17:53
Speaker 1: get displaced. You need dudes who are gonna keep Malano
1:17:56
Speaker 1: and Bernard clean and Taren Johnson clean. You need guys
1:17:58
Speaker 1: who won't get displaced. You need dudes who can plug
1:18:01
Speaker 1: and man play a gap in half or maybe even
1:18:03
Speaker 1: two gap at some times, light boxes, heavy, whatever it is.
1:18:07
Speaker 1: That's part of it too. But that's a you know,
1:18:09
Speaker 1: a good foreshadowing for a lot of the work that
1:18:10
Speaker 1: I'm doing this offseason. Good question, Ralph, well done, well done,
1:18:15
Speaker 1: well done. Yeah, this'll be a fun one again. I
1:18:17
Speaker 1: think a lot of these conversations. Again, it starts with
1:18:21
Speaker 1: if I had to pick anyone grouping that I think
1:18:23
Speaker 1: needs the most attention. I do think it is the
1:18:25
Speaker 1: defensive line. Really at the secondary right now, I would
1:18:29
Speaker 1: be I still want some things to change, but I'd
1:18:31
Speaker 1: be fine with Benford rap Bishop and then a new
1:18:34
Speaker 1: CB two with getting the skill set pieces that I
1:18:37
Speaker 1: talked about where I want to see this defense goal.
1:18:39
Speaker 1: But even if they brought back Rasoul Douglas, I wouldn't
1:18:41
Speaker 1: love it, but I wouldn't be necessarily opposed to it.
1:18:43
Speaker 1: I think the defensive line does need changes. I think
1:18:45
Speaker 1: they need a true pass rushing edge one could be
1:18:49
Speaker 1: a situational guy, doesn't have to be again, you can
1:18:52
Speaker 1: have Ajvanessa and Greg Russo be your main dude to
1:18:55
Speaker 1: see the most snaps who play a lot of first
1:18:57
Speaker 1: and second down stuff, and then you're taking up Panessa
1:18:59
Speaker 1: off the field on third down and you're bringing in,
1:19:02
Speaker 1: you know, a mercenary off the edge. Or if you
1:19:05
Speaker 1: find somebody in a free agency or the draft and
1:19:07
Speaker 1: they can be your you know, starter alongside with Group
1:19:10
Speaker 1: and AJF and s IS three whatever the hell like.
1:19:12
Speaker 1: I don't care. They just need a true pass rushing
1:19:14
Speaker 1: edge one. I think they need to change the archetypes
1:19:17
Speaker 1: and the body types that they look for at that
1:19:19
Speaker 1: edge position. I think they need to change what they
1:19:22
Speaker 1: do on the interior. They need a plugger, They need
1:19:24
Speaker 1: more of a run fit focus, especially if you're gonna
1:19:26
Speaker 1: play with four down again, not sacrificing the pass rush capabilities,
1:19:29
Speaker 1: but they need to change those dials a little bit there.
1:19:33
Speaker 1: Jordan says Khalil Mack I would love that. I just
1:19:36
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be too expensive. I still think he's
1:19:38
Speaker 1: got juice, compresses the pocket consistently and wins in that regard,
1:19:43
Speaker 1: and also plays really good run defense. I would not
1:19:45
Speaker 1: be opposed to Khalil Mack in any way, shape or form.
1:19:48
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't take a huge contract because Buffalo is
1:19:52
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender and he wants to do that.
1:19:54
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but I would not be opposed
1:19:56
Speaker 1: to Kleil Mac. I just think he's gonna cost too much.
1:19:58
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be like fifteen million and plus
1:20:01
Speaker 1: in terms of average annual value, and that immediately is
1:20:03
Speaker 1: just like, uh oh, that's that's too much. If he
1:20:06
Speaker 1: wants to come here and play for like ten million
1:20:07
Speaker 1: a year, that'd be sick. You want to come here
1:20:09
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1:20:11
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1:20:14
Speaker 1: gonna get like fifteen plus easy. You might even get
1:20:17
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1:20:20
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1:20:23
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1:20:24
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1:22:12
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1:22:37
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1:22:44
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1:22:49
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1:22:51
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1:22:53
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1:23:44
Speaker 1: my wife said the same thing earlier today. I've forgotten
1:23:47
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1:23:50
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Speaker 1: my combo is I make a theraflu and then I
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