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Alex Bregman Speaks On Detroit Offseason · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory. Part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory nowork Hey, it's right Tiger's podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Karen Steckley. We got Cody saved Hagen, we got Austin Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: and we are less than one week away from opening day.
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  Speaker 1: It's finally almost here.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, are you excited?
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready for real games? Even though they are
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  Speaker 1: technically kind of happening on a different hemisphere.
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  Speaker 3: I'm super ready for real games, Karen. Spring training gets long. Man,
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  Speaker 3: We're at that point where I think most of the
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  Speaker 3: major stuff has already happened. You know, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: anything's really gonna change for the Tigers in the next
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  Speaker 3: three or four days. So they're a part of me
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  Speaker 3: that's like, all right, can we just skip ahead to
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  Speaker 3: Los Angeles? What are we doing here?
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  Speaker 4: This is these are good times. These are good times
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  Speaker 4: right here. You know, guys are pumped up. You know,
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  Speaker 4: bodies are probably feeling a little beat up at towards
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  Speaker 4: the end, but they're they're they're ready though. When the
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  Speaker 4: day is like it's like nothing else. So these guys
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  Speaker 4: are there, They're gonna be ready. Man, It's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: fun to see what this what this group does Austin.
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  Speaker 1: When are you opening day ready? Like you know, when
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  Speaker 1: when you were you know, in the in the grind,
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  Speaker 1: if you would, you know, like the mental part of it,
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  Speaker 1: the physical part of it was there was there a
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a checkpoint where we were like all right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: spring training, Oh yeah, you know, drills or whatever, backfields,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like let's let's just get there. Was there
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  Speaker 1: a point that you were just like, I got this,
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  Speaker 1: let's just go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that last the last week is when you
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  Speaker 4: are pretty much locked in.
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  Speaker 2: At least that's when I felt locked in.
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  Speaker 4: That last week is when I fell dialed in with
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  Speaker 4: my time and you know, seeing the ball good off
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  Speaker 4: the bat.
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  Speaker 2: You know, on defense, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But the main thing was to make sure my body
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  Speaker 4: felt good, you know, making sure that I was doing
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  Speaker 4: all the things off the field and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: away from the field to be able to get ready
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  Speaker 4: for a long season, because that's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 4: You want to really make sure the numbers and all
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  Speaker 4: that stuff. I mean, yeah, they're great to go out
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  Speaker 4: and hit six hundred of spring training. Who doesn't want
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  Speaker 4: to do that, right, But at the same time. It's
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  Speaker 4: all about, you know, getting your body activated because you're
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  Speaker 4: you're about to go on a long grind.
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  Speaker 2: That you know.
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  Speaker 4: The numbers and things like that in spring training just
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  Speaker 4: are as important as.
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  Speaker 2: Making sure your body is where it needs to be
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  Speaker 2: come Opening.
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  Speaker 3: Day off that Austin look when you were on the Tigers,
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  Speaker 3: there were at least still a few more teams stationed
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  Speaker 3: in the Orlando area a little bit closer to Lakeland.
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  Speaker 3: The Tigers are very far from everyone these days, and
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  Speaker 3: one thing they're worried about is just getting to Opening Day.
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  Speaker 3: The schedule is kind of brutal. They played two games
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  Speaker 3: down in Fort Myers, so they put the whole team
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  Speaker 3: on a bus. It's a two and a half hour
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  Speaker 3: drive drive back up to Lakeland. They'll play Friday. Saturday
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  Speaker 3: is a split squad. One of those games is two
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  Speaker 3: hours away. Sunday, they'll drive an hour plus with traffic
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  Speaker 3: to clear Water, hop on a plane. Right after the game.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to San Francisco for two exhibitions. Two exhibitions
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  Speaker 3: day off Opening Day in LA. So they're going to
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  Speaker 3: San Francisco in part to get their bodies used to
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  Speaker 3: the Pacific time zone. But they actually tried to get
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  Speaker 3: the last day of spring training that Sunday off, and they,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they couldn't make it work like that. You
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  Speaker 3: got to get your games games in the schedule. But
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  Speaker 3: like spring training is way more grueling than people think.
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  Speaker 3: And as as I'm sure you can attest to, it's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit easier if you're off in Arizona instead
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  Speaker 3: of the great pre league circuit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I was man when I when I finally
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  Speaker 4: got an opportunity to play or you know, half spring
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  Speaker 4: training in Arizona, I was like, what, why not what
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  Speaker 4: everybody should be doing? It's like, what do we what
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  Speaker 4: are we doing? We're twenty minutes away in either direction.
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  Speaker 4: And but that's brutal, man, That's that's tough, and it's
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  Speaker 4: tough on the guys. But I think a lot of
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  Speaker 4: it is, you know, let it those guys get those
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  Speaker 4: innings in early and probably getting them out of there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to, you know, at the
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  Speaker 4: same time, you do. You need those reps, those those
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  Speaker 4: quality reps. Like I said, that last week of spring
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  Speaker 4: training is when you want to be most doubt in.
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  Speaker 4: I think the manager player communication thing is definitely needs
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  Speaker 4: to be high because guys, you know, might need two
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  Speaker 4: at bats, three at bats, might need to play almost
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  Speaker 4: There was a couple of times at the end of
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  Speaker 4: UH spring training where you know, I played a full
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  Speaker 4: game and I kind of needed that to just get
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  Speaker 4: my legs. You know, acclim made the plan that many innings,
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  Speaker 4: and you build it up. You know, you start off early,
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  Speaker 4: you're you're not playing as much obviously, but then towards
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  Speaker 4: the end of spring training you want to you're planning more.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, but that that that schedule, that's that's brutal
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  Speaker 4: for those guys, man, and hopefully they, like I said
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  Speaker 4: that manager player communication, I think it's gonna be it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be important, you know, with just filling guys out,
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  Speaker 4: knowing when to when to get the main guys out
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  Speaker 4: of there, get some get some of these minor league
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  Speaker 4: guys some some some looks.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, let them take care of their body
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a good one, Trek scouoble Cy young winner Ace Uh.
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  Speaker 3: He's told a J. Hinch he wants to travel everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: He threw it. Billy's in clear Water and you know,
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  Speaker 3: face Harper, Schwarber, those guys and he This tells you
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  Speaker 3: something about schoobl He liked to challenge so much of
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  Speaker 3: seeing like that a lineup Saturday, there's a split squad.
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  Speaker 3: The Yankees probably aren't bringing anyone to Lakeland. He asked
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  Speaker 3: to go two plus hours to face the Orioles in
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  Speaker 3: Sarasota just so he could face like their best, their
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  Speaker 3: best lineup.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, that dog mentality. It's the dog mentality. Man. You
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  Speaker 2: can't you can't take that out of them.
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  Speaker 4: And you love that, Like, I want to see the
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  Speaker 4: best right now, you know, getting myself mentally, you know, ready.
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  Speaker 2: For those those those abs, you know, come come season.
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  Speaker 4: That way, I'm kind of just stepping right into the
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  Speaker 4: season and I've been I've already kind of got my
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  Speaker 4: energy level, I've got my anxiety, all those things high
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  Speaker 4: already in spring training when it didn't count. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: essentially when you step into you know, opening day, you've
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  Speaker 4: already you've already faced it. You've already faced the challenge
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  Speaker 4: of facing some tough lineups.
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  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be nothing different. It's just going out
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  Speaker 2: there and executing.
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  Speaker 1: At that point, this doesn't really apply to this year's
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  Speaker 1: team scheduleized, but it obviously will eventually, but like going
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  Speaker 1: from Florida or you know, Arizona, if you're in Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: same concept, and then going up north. I know the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers star out on the West coast and you know,
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  Speaker 1: but they are eventually going to be in Detroit and
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  Speaker 1: it is going to not be warm right to begin
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  Speaker 1: the season. So what's that adjustment, like Austin to go
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  Speaker 1: from beautiful Arizona in this case for the Tigers, beautiful
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  Speaker 1: of Florida and then you're in like forty degrees and
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  Speaker 1: you know, even though it's opening day and it's exciting,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not the most pleasant of conditions. I would guess, like,
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  Speaker 1: what's that kind of like? And do you did you
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  Speaker 1: dread that back back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: No, I loved it. I loved it. Let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you why, though.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you why, because what you're saying is
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  Speaker 4: what everybody was thinking. Everybody, man, you gotta go to
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  Speaker 4: Detroit opening Day. It's gonna be cold or opening series,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it was. I and I love that. I kind
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  Speaker 4: of used that knowing that guys were gonna be cold,
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  Speaker 4: and I mean I had all the cold gear I needed.
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  Speaker 4: So if I'm if guys are already mentally like the
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  Speaker 4: highest cold. I'm like, got them, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I got you because you're you're already you know, you're
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  Speaker 4: already telling yourself it's gonna be cold, and guys are
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  Speaker 4: all bummed up out there, and it's just like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's a mental game at this point. So I love that, honestly,
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  Speaker 4: And because that was like, this is the perfect time
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  Speaker 4: to get off to a good start. Guys are cold,
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  Speaker 4: just can't grip the ball. They're just trying to get it.
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  Speaker 4: They're trying to get back in the dugout, so they're
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  Speaker 4: leaving bitches over the plate. I'm like, this is perfect.
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  Speaker 4: I loved it because it kind of gave me that
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  Speaker 4: that hit start and mentally, you know, I kind of
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  Speaker 4: use that. Knowing that not everybody likes playing in the code.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mind it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, another example of that dog mentality. There you go, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, You know we spent a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time talking about Alex Bregman, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting what I thought was like, you know, ringing the
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  Speaker 1: cloth as much as we could, even after he decided
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  Speaker 1: to sign with the Boston Red Sox, and to his credit,
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  Speaker 1: Alex Bregman gave us some more to talk about. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you were first for this. I just gotta
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  Speaker 1: want to tee you up here. Tigers were basing the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox and you you got a chance to talk
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  Speaker 1: to Alex Bregman. And then he went on the Foul
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  Speaker 1: Territory Show and and and it's the quote heard all
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  Speaker 1: around the three to one three. So just kinda take
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  Speaker 1: us through, uh take us to Alex Bregman given the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate tease to Tigers fans.
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  Speaker 2: O care.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little bit mad. I got scooped by one
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  Speaker 3: of my own employers, all right, Cam Mayven, Eric Kratz.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a lot of suddent to you, guys. I got
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  Speaker 3: up in the morning and I went to talk to
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  Speaker 3: Alex Bregman in the Red Sox clubhouse, and I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: sure how it was going to go. And I've told
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  Speaker 3: you got I'm as exhausted as anyone with the whole
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  Speaker 3: Bregmant situation. But I was curious what he would say
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  Speaker 3: from his perspective, would we learn anything. So I went
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  Speaker 3: and I did it, talk to him one on one,
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  Speaker 3: and he said, as you may have seen, he thought
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  Speaker 3: he was going to the Tigers for quote ninety eight
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  Speaker 3: percent of the off season. He later described on Foul
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  Speaker 3: Territory that the Red Sox came in basically at half
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  Speaker 3: hour before the news leaked in and came in with
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  Speaker 3: that offer. You know, there's been some reporting of counter
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  Speaker 3: offers or what may have happened in the negotiations. Bregman
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to go into the details of that. I've
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  Speaker 3: always kind of looked at that as like part of
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  Speaker 3: the process. Of course, there's going to be a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more back and forth. I'm not sure we should
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  Speaker 3: get too riled up about what was or wasn't offered,
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  Speaker 3: because we probably don't know like the real ins and outs,
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  Speaker 3: the full story there, and we still don't. But Bregman
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  Speaker 3: talked again about his respect for the Tigers, his relationship
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  Speaker 3: with aj Hinch on Foul Territory he said very similar comments. So,
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  Speaker 3: of course, you know, Tigers fans see this, and as
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  Speaker 3: much as people have tried to move on from Bregman
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  Speaker 3: I think it kind of stung all over again because
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  Speaker 3: there was a time where a long time it sounds
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  Speaker 3: like where he thought he was going to go to
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers. It does kind of cause a million other
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  Speaker 3: questions that will probably he never know the answer to,
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  Speaker 3: Like if he thought he was going to Detroit all
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  Speaker 3: off season, why did he not go to Detroit? Why
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  Speaker 3: did he not sign until spring training had already started?
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  Speaker 3: Was that Boris advising him to wait? Some of this
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  Speaker 3: stuff we're just probably never gonna know the full answer to.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's kind of also this thought out here,
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  Speaker 3: like are they already kind of trying to create a
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  Speaker 3: market for if he opts out. I don't know, like
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  Speaker 3: Scott Boris might be. I think Bregman like, I think
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  Speaker 3: I just asked him a question and can't make Eric
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  Speaker 3: Kratz asked him a question. He answered the question like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that there was really an agenda behind
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  Speaker 3: it other than due thought he was going to Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: Also kind of interesting he never mentioned the Astros or
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  Speaker 3: the Cubs, Like sounds like those weren't near in play
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  Speaker 3: to the degree the Tigers were.
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  Speaker 1: Well astin if you heard that, like if you're on
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers now, and you know, especially in this era,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's like you know, on their phones and show some
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  Speaker 1: media like everybody knows, like what's what the latest speculation
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  Speaker 1: is all that stuff, And especially because this is before,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, it's a spring training game, but before
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  Speaker 1: you're going to play this guy and he says like
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  Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the time I thought it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be your teammate. And then you know he's not,
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  Speaker 1: like what is that? Like, how would you react to that?
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  Speaker 1: You know, some comment like that.
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  Speaker 4: Why you didn't come in, why you didn't come It's
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  Speaker 4: like how you supposed to to react to that?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, It's like.
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  Speaker 4: What what didn't happen? What I mean, who who didn't?
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  Speaker 4: Who didn't get it done? You know, I think that
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you know, it is
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  Speaker 4: what it is, right, guys are gonna gonna do whatever
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna do. But as if you know, if I'm
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  Speaker 4: in that clubhouse, you know, it would have been nice
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  Speaker 4: to add a player like Bregman, and you know I
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  Speaker 4: would have I think that it would have been just
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  Speaker 4: better if you just left that alone, didn't even say
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  Speaker 4: anything about it, you know, like you said, it's a tease.
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  Speaker 2: Why why are you teasing us like that?
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  Speaker 4: Like, but you know, to to your point also of
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe creating a market you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, down down the road. Who knows. I mean, hey,
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  Speaker 2: don't ever underestimate the mind of Bords.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's up there. He you know, he's in full
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  Speaker 4: control of that. But yeah, just as a as a player,
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  Speaker 4: that would that would sting a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, you you're you're ready for when you
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  Speaker 2: you know, plan to let him know, like, hey, you
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  Speaker 2: made a mistake.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's how That's how I take it, even
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  Speaker 4: though it shouldn't even be that personal. I would kind
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  Speaker 4: of take it that way a little bit because you
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  Speaker 4: could have just left that that comment didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Even need to even surface.
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  Speaker 4: You know, don't don't even bring that out here. Don't
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  Speaker 4: let don't let us know that you were thinking about coming.
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  Speaker 4: Ninety eight ninety eight percent, that's a hey, that's that's you.
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  Speaker 4: You were here, you were basically sign but something, you know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously the details that we don't know, Like you said,
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  Speaker 4: there's probably a lot of things did happened that you
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  Speaker 4: know that we will never know about. But ninety eight
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  Speaker 4: percent sure that you were coming, man.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's high. Maybe like seventy seven percent would have
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  Speaker 2: been the best. Yeah, seventy seven I could have lien
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  Speaker 2: ninety eight. You on the team, you there, you there? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how you know, that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, February fourteenth or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, look, I I have like like
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  Speaker 1: I love when players speak their minds, like I wish
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  Speaker 1: more did. So I don't want to make this a
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  Speaker 1: criticism of him, like telling his truth, because I think
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  Speaker 1: for like people like Cody and guys like us in
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  Speaker 1: the content business, it's good for us when people speak
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  Speaker 1: their minds. So I don't want to say, like, you know, Bregman,
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  Speaker 1: why did you say it? To the extent of I
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  Speaker 1: do kind of feel like it is one of those
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  Speaker 1: easy things to say afterward, sort of like that X
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  Speaker 1: where it's like yeah, I almost may I mean you
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: almost married me, you know, like like like you were
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to me. Okay, well
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: then why aren't we here right now? So like so
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: so like those kind of comments like kind of feel
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like a little bit it's like a little bit feeding
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: like I don't like like like I'm not saying he's lying,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: but it's also I also think it's also.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: An easy thing to say.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: It's sort of like in and like I think it's
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: almost the player equivalent. Like we've had Scott Harris on
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: this podcast and we've had aj Hinch on this podcast,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: and they both have made some reference to like the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: moves that we didn't make just in general, not talking
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: about Bregmann, but just like the moves we didn't make
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: a J. Hinch endgame, Scott Harris, you know, off season
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: trade deadline, player acquisition in general. And I feel the
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: same way where it's like that's an easy thing to
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, well you don't even know like what
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: we didn't do. It's like, yes, I know, we don't
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: know what you didn't do, so so it it It
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: just kind of gets me going where it's like it's
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: like it's like a almost like a power comment to make.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: So like Regman speaker truth, I almost guarantee you he
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: is going to opt out after this, after this season,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: because why put it in there after year one if
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: you're not going to opt out. So I don't think
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: we're done talking about Alex Reregman. But for now, at
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: least let's save that off season. Now at least we
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: can we can move on. So speaking of moving on,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: specially Tourkulsen rise of right now the Tigers are it
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: kind of looks like they're not moving on from Spencer Tourklsen.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about you know, him kind
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: of getting some time in the outfield, whether that's something
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that could be like more of a role for him
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: other than just something that you know, break glass in
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: case of emergency. But we got ourselves a fine outfielder
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: here on this podcast, so I thought, I thought Austin's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: expertise is kind of needed here. So two things, Austin. One,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: like it if you were just like the general first baseman.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Now Torque is he's got more of an athlete's build
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: than your average first baseman, but he's you know, first base.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, like what would be like your points of
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: emphasis to like try to coach somebody to go into
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the outfield. It looks like Cody correct me if I'm wrong.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: If it were to happen, it'd be right right field
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: mainly probably not left h.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're trying to keep him on the right side
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: of the diamond, since it's news thingle with how the
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: ball comes off the bat, the sight lines at least
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: to ease him in, that's how they're going to start.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll say, right, we'll just keep it to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the right field then and then two Austin like, like
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: if you were in center field, then you had somebody
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: like that green uh in the outfield with you, how
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: would that kind of change your approach shading like anything
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: like that. You can take that in whatever direction you like.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think this is it's a unique
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: situation for him, and it's a it's really a good opportunity,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: you know, if you think about it, you know, not
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: too many guys get this opportunity to you know.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Essentially resurrector your career, you know.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: And he's playing he went from playing on the right
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: side obviously at first base to move into the right field.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: The biggest thing I would you know, advice I would
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: give is don't try to be a hero.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Keep the ball in front.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think that that there's there's
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a lot to go that goes into playing the outfield,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: especially if you haven't played there too much of gotten
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: too many reps out there. But we spoke on this
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: last the last podcast about just making the simple play.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: You know, nobody needs you to to win a go glove.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Although that would be awesome, right, I mean, if he
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: went out to him was just like this all star outfielder,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: that'd be great.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that's necessarily what he needs to do.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I think he needs to just.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Keep it's simple, you know, and and make the simple play,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: make the correct throw. You know, don't try to do
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: too much, you know what I mean, until you get comfortable,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: you know, don't go out their seat sliding every every
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: ball that's in front of you, are diving for balls
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: in the gap. You know, keep the ball in front
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: of you, get the ball in to the cutoff man.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Keep it very simple now.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: For me, like if I had a guy, if I'm
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: in center field and I had a guy that was
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: making the transition to the outfield. A lot of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: things that that we work on is they happen in
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: batting practice. You know, all the guys are out there,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: you know, shagging and you know taking it serious because
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: you need to.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: You need to get those reads.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Especially on the corners because the balls are slicing or
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: hooking to you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: So those are the best times.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: But every once in a while, balls get hitting the
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: gap and that's how you've kind of you gauge your
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: your corner guys.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: How I would gauge their their range.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I would go hard for balls in in baton practice
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: so they could feel.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Like, okay, he has that. You know, they feel comfortable going.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Behind me or or you know, maybe not being as
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: aggressive on that ball in the gap because they know
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: that I that I would be there. So a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: of the things I would do is get comfortable with
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: him in baton practice. So it's the best time to
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: do it, you know, reading balls off the bat. I
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: mean that's the you know, pretty much the only way
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: you can assimilate a live game's baton practice guys are swinging,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: there's you know, all different angles, pop ups, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: line drive, ground balls, all those different things that dissimilate
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: a game situation. So taking the baton practice seriously and
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: me understanding his range, uh and kind of actually just
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: watching him too, seeing how aggressive is he on those
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: balls in the gap?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Should I be taking a different angle on that or
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: can I trust him to to be there?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And me you know me not go for that ball
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and go behind him.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things that go into it,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: but I think, you know, for the most part, it's
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: just keeping it simple. You know, you're you're already an infielder,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: so you know how to field the ground ball and
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: keep a ball in front of you. So those are
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: those are the things that are gonna, honestly, you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: add pluses to to your outfield play because you you've
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: been an infielder. You know where cutoffs are, you know
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: where to throw the ball.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You see these balls coming in every game.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: So those are things that you can take mentally out
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: there to the outfield, knowing where in ball hits, when
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: the ball hits you, and the runners on first base,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: where you're coming a runner on, no runners on, which
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: is where you're coming up, and throwing all of those
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: things that that that uh that are that happened in
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: A lot of that that stuff happens in VP.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: So I would really encourage him to take bat and
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: practice seriously because that's where.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: You're gonna that's where you're gonna find your range.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: That's where I you know, I found the range when
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I would got traded and I went to a different
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: teas you know, we took it serious. VP is something
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: that you can find so many things out in the
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: bat in practice.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: In practice is feeling practice.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Could you have played? Could you have transitioned the infield
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: at anytime?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Austin? No, let me tell you why that ball? Hey man?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: These boys hit the ball hard.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, let me they be hit that ball hard, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm just not about that life.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I don't got I don't, I don't, you know.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: And I tell these eight year olds that we're playing with, like,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: get in front of the ball, get to the man.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Now, I've moved out.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I moved to the outfield because I was like, I
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: used to play a hot corner and I'm like, man,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: that ain't for me. This ball's coming too hard. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: got way more time to react in the outfield. So,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, you look at Mookie Best. I mean, it's
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: that's that's freaking stuff that he's I mean, he's a
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: different type of athlete to make that transition from the
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: outfield to the infield and make it look, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: pretty easy, like he's been doing it for a long time.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: And a guy can go bowler what's the three hundred
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: or whatever the highest Like that's different stuff, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: like so that no, I wouldn't been able to do that,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: hit the ball too hard, that throw the first I'd
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: be throwing it in the dugout and the stands.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It just it would get ugly quick.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: So I was where I was supposed to be at.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Oh Man.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Always I'll always love honesty here on a Tiger territory,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: all right, Well, another sort of curiosity element that I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: have here, And since we got Austin, we got to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: use every bit of knowledge that he brings. There's a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: little bit of a but you call it a criticism
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Cody or just like a critique of Jackson Joe, whereas
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like his stuff is off the charts, like you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: fastball off be like RPMs, like all the metrics sort
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: of what we were talking about with Andy Dirks last week,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: all the metrics that like make you think that this
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: guy's gonna be like legit, and he probably will be legit,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: very good chance he will be legit. But as of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: right now, there are still he's still getting hit more
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: than I think most Tigers fans would love, like would
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: admit that they're a little comfortable with, you know, like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: when he gets hit, he gets hit. It's kind of
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: like the good way to put it. So I'm curious,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Austin if you're going, like, what is it about a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: picture that you know he could throw one hundred. You know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: his curve ball has all this movement on it, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: he's still getting whacked at the play. And that's not
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: to say that Joe was getting whacked, but you see
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like still getting whacked. Like what what
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: are we who have never been in the box missing about?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Like someone who's this talented but is still is still
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: like capable of getting shellacked every once in a while, Like,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: what are we missing with that?
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Well, let's just talk about the fastball real quick. The
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: fastball is just not the same with everybody. You know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: there's guys that throw ninety eight, but it's just a
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: light ninety eight, if that makes sense. It's you can
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: see it, you see it out the hand, you see
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: it the whole way to the plate.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And then you'll face a guy that throws ninety.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Two and your follon balls off, you're late, You're getting jammed.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: A lot of that comes with deception too, right, Like
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: you know, if I'm not seeing the ball, if he's
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: hiding the ball, if I'm not picking the ball up
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: out of that window, it doesn't matter how hard you throw.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter how nasty your stuff is, because
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I can't see it until late you're hiding. Guys sometimes
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: this is also a thing where they're so nasty that
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I can't swing at a pitch because it's just it breaks.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: It's so nasty that it's like that pitch is not
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: even hittable, so I can eliminate that pitch.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Like there there were there were times guys where like
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: there their sliders or their their curve balls were.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Just so tight and just so nasty out of the
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: hand that it was like and they couldn't do it
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: for a strike.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: It couldn't do it for a strike.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Probably one of the best you know, curveballs or sliders
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that you that you will see, but it was so
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: nasty that it wasn't hittable. So as a hitter, you're
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: you give up on it because it's like, that's not it.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: It's never going to be a strike. You know, you
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: see it and you're like, that's nasty, but it's already
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: breaking and it's already in the dirt.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: So I've already.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Eliminated some of his nasty pitches, and I'm just king
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: in on the fastball. The problem the tough ones are
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: when everything's coming out that same window. Now, I'm not
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: sure because I've never stood in the box with him,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: but I would I would probably guess that guys see
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: his pitches really good. Even though with all the spin
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: rate and all these metrics, it doesn't matter if if
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you if a hitter is seeing your pitches, don't matter
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: how hard you throw, doesn't matter how nasty you are,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: you're gonna get hit. And you're talking about big league
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: hitters that have seen thousands, up on thousands of different
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: pitches and different arm angles, and the really good ones
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: no matter how hard you throw. The metrics they could be,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: you know, through the roof. If a guy, if a hitter,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: can't see your pitches, you're not gonna hit it. We
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: have to see the ball to hit it. So guys
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: are seeing it. Guys are seeing his pitches, even though
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: it's nasty, even though the metrics are it doesn't matter.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Guys are seeing it. So but he's also young. He's
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: also facing the best of the best, so the experience
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: he needs. I mean, you gotta put him in there,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: right like, you gotta let him learn at that level. Obviously,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: you know, you don't want him just out there and
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: his confidence is getting rocked and things like that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: But sometimes that's part of it too.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: You know, you got to put him out there to
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: let him go through those things and you know, figure
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: out a way to get it done.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Figure out a way to hide those pitches. Because I'm
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: telling it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: You know, you hear it all the time from from
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: hitters with really good pitching. Is I see, I can
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: see his ball really good. I can see his ninety nine.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: That's not normal that, you know, hitters shouldn't be saying,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I see that ninety nine, like it's it's a light
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: ninety nine. It's a light ninety eight. And then the
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: guy's throwing ninety You're like, I can't see it. It
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: looks like it's ninety eight, but you look at the
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: you know, at the gun it's ninety. So, I mean,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: I think those are just some of the things that
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to learn as a young pitcher. You know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: how to how to hide his pitches a little bit better,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: how to make those those pitches come out of that
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: same window. And when you do that, like I said,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what your your metrics are. If everything
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: looks the same, you're not hitting it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Just not.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the more we've seen of Jackson joke this spring,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: and I think the more this kind of has become
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: a question because you watch him throw in a bullpen
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: and for me, you know, I'm not a major league kier.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no one's gonna touch this guy. It's crazy.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: And then you see him give up a lot of
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: loud contact. I asked aj Hinch kind of this very question,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: like is there a sequencing issue? Is there something that's
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: making him easy to pick up? And it sounds like
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: for right now the Tigers aren't working on adjusting his
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: arm angle or trying to get more extension, or they
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: just want to being more precise. Funny enough, his comment
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: that kind of went viral, like I stopped trying to
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: dot a NAT's ass and just here's my stuff. See
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: if you can hit it. Not necessarily what they want
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: him like, I think they would much rather him be
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: aggressive in attacking the strike zone than nibbling. But I
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: think he's also learning that the middle of the strike
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: zone isn't a great place to get major league hitters out.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I think they want to be more precise with his location,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: live on the corners, a little bit more trek Scoogle.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I've said this before. Tremendous example had amazing stuff, got
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: rocks early on in his big league career, and a
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: lot of that with scoobl was getting behind in the
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: counts where he was more likely to kind of have
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: to throw it middle. Job's actually doing a great job
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: getting the two strikes, but then he's not missing bats
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: in the strike zone. Guys aren't chasing, maybe because how
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: well they pick up the stuff, but they think that
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: what he's gonna have to do is improve the command,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and that could go a long way for him.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: And that's that's kind of another thing that I was
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: thinking about of just command.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: You know, command, you know, just because you can.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Throw hard, just because you have nasty stuff, you leave
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: it over the middle of the plate, it's getting hit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: That's that's what we practice.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: We set a ball up in the middle of the plate,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the big part of the plate, and we we take
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: that swing a million times.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: So if you throw it there it's most likely gonna
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: get hit.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: So you know, to your point, yeah, I think it's
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: gonna He's gonna have to command different parts of the zones,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: get guys looked in a certain direction in a certain area,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: and being able to finish them off in a different area.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: If everything is just you know, middle middle for the
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: for the most part, it's gonna get hit. Guys are
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: guys are way too good and like I said, that's
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  Speaker 4: that's a swing path that we practiced so many times.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not gonna be too It's not gonna be
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  Speaker 2: good to go there.
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  Speaker 4: You know a lot now also too, like what you
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: were saying about, he's not having an issue with with
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: you know, getting ahead and guy on hitters.
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  Speaker 2: It's just more about finishing them off.
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  Speaker 4: You know, guys are still making really hard contact with
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  Speaker 4: uh with with two strikes.
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  Speaker 2: That's tough, you know. There.
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  Speaker 4: I think there is gonna have to be an adjustment made,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: you know with that, because you can get behind real
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: quick in a game first in and you come out
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  Speaker 4: boom boom boom, you know, get two strikes on guys
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  Speaker 4: and guys and then you're giving up a double with
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: two strikes, So there has to be something done, you know,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's it's a sequence thing that could that could
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: also be you know, just changing up the sequence of
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  Speaker 4: your pitch and that could That can go a long way.
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  Speaker 4: But I think experience too. He's gonna he's gonna figure
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  Speaker 4: it out. You know, he's gonna have to with with
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: major league hitters. He's gonna have to figure out how
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: to attack this own differently, be able to get guys
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  Speaker 4: that are out at a major league level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, we're we're still a couple of
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: days away from like the official notification that he will
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  Speaker 1: be doing that against major league hitters to start the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: season as opposed to maybe in Toledo. So I think
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: as of right now, everyone kind of expects him to
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: start out in the rotation. But until things are official,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: as Alex Bregman taught us, uh, it's ever official until
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it's official. Got one more reference in there, real quick, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we're recording this in the midst of the n cb
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  Speaker 1: A tournament. Uh, you know, going on just started today.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Any National Championship prediction.
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  Speaker 3: Florida fort For the past six weeks, I don't even
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: know what's happening in collegest I know the year there
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: and in the tournament, I got get pissed.
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  Speaker 1: Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you would you've been in play.
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  Speaker 3: So I'd like to watching Michigan State play this year.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I know they maybe didn't finish as strong as people alike,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: but but it's uh what January February is?
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: How about?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: How about?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: How about tom Izzo makes a little run Austin?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: You got one?
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Man? I you know, I haven't been keeping up with
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: it as much as I as I normally do.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Just been just been busy. But I watched Houston the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: other day and they look they look pretty gritty. Man.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: They look like they have that enough grit to to
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: be able to you know, this is when number of
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: you know, ranking that stuff doesn't matter to me or
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: anybody really, you know, and if you're the top dog,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: you definitely have a target on your back.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: So they have just a grit about them that, you know.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: I could see them going deep, uh in in the
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: tournament and watch I say that, then lose first.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: One today, So it's all good. Yes, you know, I
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: like them. I like I like.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I just they played hard nosed basketball
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: and I think their coach real well, so I think
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: they I think they got a chance. They've been there before,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: so they know how to play with it in an adversity.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yep, you guys chose to great coaches, no surprise college
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: basketball coaches. For I'll go with Michigan State. I'll be
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the homer, my dad's alma mater.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I think I technically have Duke winning in my bracket,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: but that's assuming Cooper Cooper Flag's ankle is okay, which
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I twisted my ankle that way. That is not a
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: fun way to twist an ankle. But you know, I'm
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: also not the number one recruit and number one NBA
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: draft picks, So there you go. There's a difference between
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: me and Cooper Flag. All right, guys, this is a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. I want to thank everybody for listening,
• 35:51
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• 35:59
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• 36:02
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