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Doug Marrone Show: Thursday, August 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show.
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  Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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  Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
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  Speaker 1: Show starts right now. Welcome in to The Doug Maron Show.
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagman, head coach Doug Maron. Preseason
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  Speaker 1: week three. What's up, coach? How you doing? All right? Man?
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  Speaker 1: We're ready for as close to a full real preseason
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  Speaker 1: game as you'll find in the preseason. Ish you're making
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  Speaker 1: a face right now. Yeah, I mean I think it is.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you know, but you know, it's the
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  Speaker 1: body of work that you're looking for, and obviously you
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  Speaker 1: know you're gonna, you know, put a couple of guys
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  Speaker 1: in there and played a little bit longer. So um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how it works. It's a preseason
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  Speaker 1: week three, so training camp still in session for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Guys are still in the hotel right still that process
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  Speaker 1: going on here. But you're the only team in the league,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, it's still in camp. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I you'd have to have the players they know all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, but you have all that going on, and
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  Speaker 1: then you you do a little planning for the falcons,
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  Speaker 1: look at some cards, and the offensive defensive coordinators do
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  Speaker 1: a little more of that stuff. So for for the
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  Speaker 1: coaches balancing time this week between camp and and game prep.
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  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett called it maybe the busiest week of the
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  Speaker 1: year for him. Do you agree with that. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's exaggerating. But you know, we do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the prep work prior to us leaving for the summer,
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  Speaker 1: So we'll look at the games, We'll look at the
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  Speaker 1: game plans, will actually set game plans so this way, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then when we get to those dates,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's preseason one, preseason two, or preseason three, will
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  Speaker 1: go back to a lot of the work that we
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  Speaker 1: did in the off season and look at it and
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  Speaker 1: figure or see if are these are players that we
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  Speaker 1: want to run and what we want to do game
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  Speaker 1: plan wise. I think that the challenges, Um, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to run any plays that you know schematically can't work,
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  Speaker 1: you know against the the opponent, and I'm sure they
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  Speaker 1: feel the same way. But you don't want to show
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  Speaker 1: too much either, you know from per so now what
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  Speaker 1: you want to do and things of that nature. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, you want to go out there and have
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  Speaker 1: a good showing. And I think that's the tough part
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  Speaker 1: for me, you know, trying to handle that balance. If
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  Speaker 1: you had to put a percentage, like if an offensive
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  Speaker 1: game plan in a regular season and you compared like
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  Speaker 1: a third preseason game, what would it be like, It's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I bet you it's about like fifteen. That's that's interesting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, rather than that you're gonna put in and
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  Speaker 1: and and get it done and and you know, try
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  Speaker 1: to scheme it up, try to match it up and
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  Speaker 1: do all that stuff. Yeah, that's that's a number of
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  Speaker 1: and And it's kind of surprises me because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people might think that, you know a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more than that. Well, you know, I think you just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go out there and play, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day stuff that they you know,
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  Speaker 1: can go out there and just hey, just run these plays,
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  Speaker 1: let's see your matchups, let's go get ready. Um. You
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  Speaker 1: know the thing about it is, and you know, in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of you know, well, the following Thursday, everyone's
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  Speaker 1: record goes to the same zero and zero and now
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  Speaker 1: we go so I think that you know, it's important.
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  Speaker 1: The preseason is very important obviously, our our our staff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we want to go out there and if,
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  Speaker 1: like I said before, if we're gonna keep scoring, we
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  Speaker 1: want to win. But at the same time, we don't
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  Speaker 1: want to show our hand to everyone of things that
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  Speaker 1: we might you know, have been working on. But was
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  Speaker 1: saving four you know, game one, game two, in game three,
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  Speaker 1: when uh, when you have it simplified the evaluation process
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  Speaker 1: obviously easy because you're not you know, having guys thinking.
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  Speaker 1: But how good is it for your football team to
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  Speaker 1: now be on the third preseason game and it's the
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  Speaker 1: third opponent that was a postseason participant in last year's season. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of things. I think. You know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we we've you know, faced and after Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: it will be three playoff teams. You know, we played
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  Speaker 1: a good New Orleans team which is good top to bottom,
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  Speaker 1: and they have you know, super Bowl, super Bowl obviously
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  Speaker 1: predictions for them. You know, then we go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: we play, Uh we practiced two times against Minnesota and
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  Speaker 1: play against them and top to bottom, they have a
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  Speaker 1: great roster and you know, people are saying it might
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  Speaker 1: be the most talented team, you know, what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: in the league, and you know, then we got a
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  Speaker 1: really good Atlanta team coming here, So I think it's
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a great test for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: our young players and and even our older players of
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  Speaker 1: matchups and what we're you know, what we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: get accomplished. So you know, at least we can see
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  Speaker 1: if the players are doing well, and they consistently performed
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  Speaker 1: well against those three teams, you probably have a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good player, you know that you need to keep on
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  Speaker 1: your roster. And I think, you know, talking about the
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  Speaker 1: game plans, like we said before, that's one of the
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  Speaker 1: things we look at with the younger players. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: how they're doing studying the game plan, how they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: you know, what they do when they come onto the field.
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  Speaker 1: Is it's something they can take from the classroom to
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  Speaker 1: the field or do we have to go classroom walk through,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe make a mistake and then they get it.
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  Speaker 1: And these are the things that were constantly evaluating. What
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  Speaker 1: when you talked about, you know, the percentage of game
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  Speaker 1: plan or whatever. Part of the regular season preparation for
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  Speaker 1: players is not so much understanding and knowing the game
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  Speaker 1: plan that you have. It's also understanding your opponent and
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  Speaker 1: learning how to do that as a pro, and for
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  Speaker 1: young players that's a difficult thing to learn. But how
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  Speaker 1: much time in preseason game number three now, because things
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  Speaker 1: are a little bit different, can you have the players
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  Speaker 1: look at Okay, this is the guy I'll be facing
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  Speaker 1: when I'm out there. Well, what's interesting is on my
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  Speaker 1: way down here, I left the locker room to come
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  Speaker 1: down here to the studio that right, Joe Okay studio.
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  Speaker 1: So on my way down I was passing the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line room, and uh, and I didn't go in there
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  Speaker 1: because those guys don't want to hear from me. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I went I didn't go in there, But
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  Speaker 1: I saw Parnell A. J Norwell watching Atlanta Tate watching
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  Speaker 1: their opponent, and I think that's what pros do. I think,
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  Speaker 1: and you would know, Jeff, But anyone, if a professional
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  Speaker 1: player is going to go out on that field and perform,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna make sure he looks at who that opponent
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  Speaker 1: is and what he's gonna, you know, and what he's
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  Speaker 1: about to do. So you know, I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 1: of players doing that, putting in the extra time and
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  Speaker 1: that's been our our focus this week of Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: you need to get yourself ready this week to prepare
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  Speaker 1: like you're gonna prepare during the year. So whatever your
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  Speaker 1: schedule is for whether you watch tape at home, whether
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  Speaker 1: you watch tape you know, in between things that we
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  Speaker 1: may do here, whatever tests. So as far as the
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  Speaker 1: game week goes, we're trying to treat it the same
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  Speaker 1: way to get our players ready for the season, because
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason we'll practice all the way up until
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  Speaker 1: the game and then really the day before will introduce
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  Speaker 1: the opponent to our to our players. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on right now. There's always that question this
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  Speaker 1: week though, how long did the starters go and playing
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  Speaker 1: time and and all that. You said it earlier today,
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  Speaker 1: I think pretty well, you want guys to play, You
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  Speaker 1: want to you want to get them on the field.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only way to really know. Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you know, if you've played this game
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  Speaker 1: for ten years at a real high level, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think you need you know. It's one of those
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  Speaker 1: things like, uh, I was fortunate enough to be on
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  Speaker 1: the staff and coach Curtis Martin, so we don't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we that. You know, by that time, we'd ask Curtis
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  Speaker 1: how many how many snaps do you need? And Curtis
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  Speaker 1: was great, Curtis, Hey, hey I need this many snaps.
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  Speaker 1: We get him that many snaps and that's it. He's
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  Speaker 1: ready for the season. But that's like the one you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's like, you know, very few players you know can
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  Speaker 1: actually do that. So for me, I've always taken the
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  Speaker 1: approach of, hey, listen to the first first preseason game,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, play a quarter or less. And
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  Speaker 1: second one, we're gonna try to play a half, and
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  Speaker 1: the third one we're gonna play a half, and then
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  Speaker 1: we want to come out you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: in the third quarter. And um, you know, I pretty
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  Speaker 1: much kept that mentality. I think it's I think it's
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  Speaker 1: good for the players. I think it works them in.
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  Speaker 1: I think it gets themselves ready because you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good break between you know, this preseason game
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  Speaker 1: in the first game. Is there anybody in this roster
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  Speaker 1: with that kind of uh in the league that long
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  Speaker 1: to be able to say, hey, I only need X
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  Speaker 1: number of reps. I mean, I mean I would probably
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  Speaker 1: if I off the top of my head, I would think,
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  Speaker 1: you know the person that that you would say it
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  Speaker 1: would be class and he's played at a high level
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  Speaker 1: and he's playing at a very high of them. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play with that. I love those guys are funny.
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  Speaker 1: They don't like playing without each other, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? And be like, you know what, what do
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  Speaker 1: you mean? Why does he you know? So I try
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  Speaker 1: to keep all those guys together. They do like they
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  Speaker 1: enjoy playing together and playing next to each other. That's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll get into the offensive bit Blake
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  Speaker 1: Bortles and preseason scrambling from the quarterback. We'll get your
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  Speaker 1: preseason game number three. The value relation process continues for
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  Speaker 1: kind of game type of stuff. You know, with this
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  Speaker 1: evaluation process. You know, at some point coming up here
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  Speaker 1: and what about a week and a half, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to make roster decisions. Do you guys go through
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  Speaker 1: you and Tom Coughlin and and uh Dave called what
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  Speaker 1: do you guys go through the exercise process of talking
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  Speaker 1: about that on a regular basis throughout the preseason? We do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, we get together, we do it with
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  Speaker 1: we also involve the coaches, the assistant coaches and their input,
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  Speaker 1: and we also involve our our scouts, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the in their input. So you know, we're getting a
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  Speaker 1: lot of information and we're constantly evaluating it, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it moves. It moves within practices. You know, hey, so
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  Speaker 1: and so had a good practice. He's coming up so
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  Speaker 1: and so it might have had not a good of
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  Speaker 1: a practice. He may move down and then a way
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  Speaker 1: the game came. He played well in the game, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't play well. You know. So it's constantly it's constantly moving,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that's it. That's what's great about it.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I just um, you know, I just say, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: if we can't put the tape on and figure out
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  Speaker 1: who the best player is and you know, then then
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  Speaker 1: we've got problems. If if it's a tough decision to
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  Speaker 1: make that's better for us, the easier the decision, then
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  Speaker 1: there's probably a big gap between the players. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're in a point where we have some some
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  Speaker 1: really good competition and and some of it's turning over
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  Speaker 1: into you know, really how well they play on special teams.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to be a huge part of it. It
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  Speaker 1: is it is because you know, when you look at it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for me, uh, you know, not only you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the fifty three, But you're also from where
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit different maybe than everyone else is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking ahead to the forty six and I think
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  Speaker 1: you know, coach Coffin has been a coach and he
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  Speaker 1: he understands that, and Dave understands that. Uh, the coaches
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  Speaker 1: not you know, they they just want the best players
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  Speaker 1: that their positions. So you know, you're looking at that,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's where the teams get in because
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, Okay, if he makes our fifty three,
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  Speaker 1: is he part of the forty six? And if he's
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  Speaker 1: part of the forty six and he's he's in a
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  Speaker 1: backup role, how many snaps as you're gonna get and
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  Speaker 1: can contribute to special teams in a winning way. And
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  Speaker 1: I want to clarify real quickie. You know when you
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  Speaker 1: say forty six, because on game day you're allowed to
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  Speaker 1: carry forty six active players. Fifty three is your is
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  Speaker 1: your rosters, it's an entirety exactly, So forty six when
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  Speaker 1: you've got somebody that's gonna be active a part of
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  Speaker 1: that forty six on game day, you're talking about finding
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  Speaker 1: a role that they have to fill, you have to
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  Speaker 1: you really do you you can't afford outside of the
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  Speaker 1: really the backup quarterback to uh to have a role
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  Speaker 1: on your roster with forty six that's not going to contribute,
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  Speaker 1: because what's gonna happen is someone's gonna have to take
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  Speaker 1: up that that slack somewhere along the line. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be one of your starters. And you know, it's difficult.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of you know, there's a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a third of the game and special teams, and people
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  Speaker 1: lose sight of um, you know, really who plays well.
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  Speaker 1: They can see a return to return of football, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's punt or kick off. You know, they see someone
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  Speaker 1: that runs down there and makes that tackle. You know,
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  Speaker 1: but there are guys that consistently do a good job.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we're fortunate enough to have a player
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  Speaker 1: like we have a couple of really good special team players.
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  Speaker 1: But one that played well last year for US was
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  Speaker 1: Laurenti McCrae. You know who really played well, played on
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  Speaker 1: all the teams, and you know he doesn't he's done
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  Speaker 1: a good job and he's worked himself to be able
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  Speaker 1: to contribute well. You talk about him because you know,
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  Speaker 1: a guy like him, when you're talking about forty six.
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  Speaker 1: And how valuable a player like that is when you're
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  Speaker 1: talking forty six, because here's a guy that can play
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  Speaker 1: you know, Rush End, he can play Sam right, and
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  Speaker 1: he's a Core four Special teamer exactly. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, you know you're going into a game
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  Speaker 1: he can back up those two positions and you know
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get at least eighteen even if so if
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  Speaker 1: no one gets hurt in those positions, he's gonna play
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  Speaker 1: sixteen and eight snaps, eighteen snaps a game, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just on the four course Special teams. There was a
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  Speaker 1: and you might have met him for Bill Hampton Sr.
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  Speaker 1: Who oh yeah, okay, And he had a saying he said,
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  Speaker 1: the more you can do, young man, the more you
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  Speaker 1: can do it. Of course he was trying to tell
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  Speaker 1: us that because he wanted some helpful and towels. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I I'm that way. Now, this is the old in
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  Speaker 1: New York. I'll tell you I go in there, I'll
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  Speaker 1: full towels with your equipment, guys, I'll I'll pick st
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  Speaker 1: up up. And I always believe in that the more
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  Speaker 1: you can do, you know, it's hard to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of people that can do a lot. J JP is
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  Speaker 1: not saying much to that. I guess JP doesn't do ye.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of doing more, Blake Bortles does a little more
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  Speaker 1: than just stand back there and throw the ball around.
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  Speaker 1: He can run with it too. And now as a
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  Speaker 1: head coach in the preseason, when you see your quarterback
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  Speaker 1: take off like he did on third and goal from
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  Speaker 1: what the fifteen yard line, what's going through your head?
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: I love him? And I mean that's what that's what
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: players think, you know. I mean, you know, why is
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: he any different than you know, anyone else on that team,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: whether it's you know, anywhere running backs are receivers. You know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I think I think that's something that helps. Now, I'm
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: not gonna say Coach Hacket and Coach Melanovich weren't like
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: on the headphones, But for me, you know, I like that.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I do. I think, you know, it shows the type
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: of gritty has and I've been saying for weeks, I
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: think this is the part of his game that people
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: have not spoken about that you know, he's he's very
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: very good at stepping up if something's not there running.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: He saw what he did last year in the playoff game.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: You see what he does here in the red zone.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's a part of his game that a
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: lot of us don't really talk about, but it's extremely important.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people that that game plan
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: against us are obviously very much aware of his scrambled ability,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: which you would hope helps the offensive line because you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: now people have to stay in their rush lanes. They
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: they can't just come from all over the place. And
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I think that's something that is, uh is a great
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: help for us. Yeah, kind of along those lines, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I think back to the playoff game against Buffalo, you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: where you'd be kind of very conservative offensive game plan,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and all a sudden, he started making some things happen
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: with his legs. He did, he made a lot of
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: things happen with his legs. I mean, he was running,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: he got a lot of first downs, and I think
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you know, in that game it gets overlooked because there
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't a high point total for him. But I think
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you can also see that when you know later on
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: we played Pittsburgh, we throw up a lot of points
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and he does a great job. So you know, there's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: a there's a good combination of you know, how we
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: want to play, how he can do it, and um,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you know, we're expecting him to make great stride this year,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: he's expecting himself to make great strides. So but I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: really believe when a quarterback does what he did the
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: other day, I think the teammates it picks it up.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And Jeff can probably talk better about it. I mean,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you're on the sideline, you see him take off, and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: you see him not run out of bounds and try
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to score. You may say, hey, not too smart in
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: the preseason, like JP saying. But from a standpoint when
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: he gets up and he's not hurt, You're like, yeah,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: You're like, okay, here we go. Now the one I think,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you had that play. And then all of
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a sudden this week, you know, he was asked about
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of difference of your makes. You know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: last year he was benched and and Chad was given
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the starting preseason game number three, And I thought his
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: ability to laugh about that and just to kind of
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: laugh at himself, I mean kind of put those two
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: traits together. I'm like, this guy's like like the perfect quarterback,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: you know, because he's a lot of quarterbacks. I hate
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to say this dog that I've been around, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: not that Brunette was one of them and taking him
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: out of the equation there that because he lives here
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: kind of kind of pretty boys, you know, And and
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Blake's you know, he's he's a he's yeah, he's not,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and um, you know he is what he is. I mean,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: he's a lunch pale guy. I mean, he'll be the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: first one to tell you that. I have a great
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: appreciation for his work ethic. I think his teammates see that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, and and you know he'll he'll
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: he'll put his head down and and try to run
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: someone over. And I think I think as a player,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you know, they respect that. I really do. I mean, um,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's a better question for the players, but
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's what they see. And I think that Blake,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: through his hard work, through the things that he've done,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: is gaining you know, the respect and everyone being behind them.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: And um, I think that was important. I don't know
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: a year ago at this time if we could have
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: said that, but I think that he's worked extremely hard
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and he's done an outstanding job of it, and the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and the players believe in him. And that's important too.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: When we return, we're getting the trenches oh lineman coming
• 18:56
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• 20:42
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• 20:45
  Speaker 1: just practicing his touchdown dances, And one day, while getting
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: fitted for bifocals, he realized he was never much good
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: at throwing, or running, or catching or even kicking. Yeah,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Gavin's chances of playing pro football we're looking like fourth
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and long, very long. But he did hear how Geico
• 21:00
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• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and saved. Then he did kind of a touchdown dance.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: At least he was still good at that. Welcome back
• 21:21
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• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Show continues right now. We're back with the head coach
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show continues j P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagman alongside. Uh,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: let's get into the trenches here, Doug. You got a
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: couple of offensive linemen out there for the first time
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: coming up this Saturday, with the Norwell and Parnell on
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the right side. Lender came out of the game last week.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Kind of you said earlier today, you just want to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: wait and see that. You don't want to be as
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you said earlier in the week, We don't want to
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: be stupid about it. But um, what these guys go
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: through on a daily basis, you know better than most
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: as an offensive former offensive lineman, what they go through
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: during camp with with the grind that they have to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: do to be ready to play. These guys have been
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: out there working their way back for preseason week three.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: What does that tell you about Norwell and part ow Well?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I think I think you know both of the of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the lines up front. I think it's it's a little
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: bit different. You know. I always tell the story that, um,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: when I was in New Orleans and and and Drew
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: was there, and Drew, you know, going through training camp.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: You know, and Drew would be in a huddle of
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: wall Let's go come on, let's go. And I'm you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: obviously that was the offensive line coach. And you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: my the players will look at them and go, yeah,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you're not hitting anybody. And you got a red jersey,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: no one's allowed to hit you. So I think, I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: think I have a great deal of respect for the lines.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: You know, they go out there and they and they
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: physically get after each other, you know, and and then
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: they have to go out there and perform, and you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: injuries are part of it, and and it's and it's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: probably tougher in the larger groups that you're in meeting,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line and defensive line, meaning that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you know, if if someone goes down and then up,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you know, they don't have the ability to practice. They
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: had a lot of piste off people in that room
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: because someone's gonna have to take the extra reps to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: do that. So you know, I think, but you know, Andrew,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: what I saw, he was chomping at the bit. He
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: was so disappointed, you know, that he was not able
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to practice and play. So I really see a play
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that dying to come back and here dying to play,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: which is which is outstanding. You know, and JP has
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: been going through it back and forth. He's been doing
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a lot, been working along the way, uh, getting him
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to feel well. So he's gonna play, and you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: getting those guys to play together. You know, I'm I'm
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and say, hey, that's not important,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: because I do believe it is. Our players should be
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: able to play with interchangeable parts as far as the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: people that are here. But we're excited that, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: we're excited to see him out there and excited to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: see him play. Obviously we feel comfortable with him, and um,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a great thing. And then with with Brandon,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be smart. I think that you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he you know, he's feeling pretty good right now, but
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, why take a chance, you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: in the preseason. And we'll make that decision as we
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: get closer. But you know, if there's anyone right now
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that we feel that's that's that's played, that's proven themselves,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that you know, might be nicked up or something, I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: think the smart thing to do is say, hey, lets
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and let's let's let's take a step back, let's get
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: fully healed before we move forward. The one guy that uh,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you know, that I'm looking forward to watch him play,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: not so much as a new guy, but it's Cam Robinson.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Last week he faced excellent player in Daniel Hunter, I mean,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: one of the top defensive ends in the league and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and Cam struggled. I mean, so for me, I'm I'm
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch Cam. Your thoughts on his
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: play and looking ahead, I think I think, like any
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: like any anyone else, I think that Cam would be
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the first one to tell you before me that he
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: needs to do a better job. You know, I really
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: believe that, and it's something that's on tape, and I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: think he's been working hard. He's he's really had a
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: good week of practice. This week he saw that, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I was able to watch him. I mean, he's really
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: focused in on his technical issues that can really help him.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So I think this will be an important week to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: see the progress of where he is. But um, you
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: know again, he I think. I think the first thing
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: is that I think he realized it that we need
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: him to play better, and we need him. I mean
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: everyone knows the whole team we need him to do
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a better job. But I think that Cam is um
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: even though he's a young player. I think he's smart
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: enough to know how listen, I I've got to do
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a better job. A couple of guys will get a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: first chance to look at in game action on the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: defensive line this year, Dante Fowler Jr. And Taven Bryant,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the first round draft pick. Would you expect to see
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: from those guys? I mean, I really haven't seen them,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and I've just watched them against you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: our players, and um, you know, I'm I'm excited to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: see it. Like That's one of the things I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that when I'm on the sideline and they're in the game,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: you know, the players that, you know what with Dante
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and and with Tavan, I'm just gonna really be excited
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to see him, see him out there and really watch
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: him play because I really can't say anything. And people
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: ask me a lot of questions about them, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and I really don't know what to say. They do
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a good job in practice, they work hard, they do
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, but you know, at the end of
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the day, our profession and what we do is about
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: results on the field, and they haven't been on the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: field that much. Talk about what you know, Taven Brian's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: role might be you know, once you do see, you
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: know what he can and can't do, because a lot
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: of people think that maybe, well he's gonna be a
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: backup defensive tackle. But I know in training camp he's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: worked a strong side in. He's been a sub interior rusher.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Is that kind of what the expectation is for him
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: as a guy that can play that strong side in
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: like a Klais Campbell, then also takes snaps inside as
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a sub rusher. Well, I think that's what we were.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: That was the thought process going in. But I think
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to sit here and say, you know, hey,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: this is what he's gonna do when he haven't done anything.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: You know, I think he's shown he has good strength.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's shown that, you know, he has the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: ability to do it, but I have not seen him
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: out there, so I think, you know, these, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: this game and the next game for him are are
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: important games to see where he fits and what he
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: can do and what his skill set is. So, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's tough for me, you know, or for anyone
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: really to talk about players when they're when they haven't
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: been available. You know, we can talk about, hey, he's
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: done a good job in pajamas. You know, he's been strong,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: he's been quick, he's done all this stuff. But you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is he gonna do it when when it counts, when
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the pads are on and we're going against top talent.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I think we'll get a good idea this week, and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a sighted for it. I think he'll do well.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: It's not like, um, he hasn't worked hard to get
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: where he is right now. Winning result, yes, I think
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that's you always say you want to win the football
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: game for keeping score, get that, But what else would
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: make a successful night for your team Saturday night. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: think you win and you're healthy, you come out healthy.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I really think so. I think that's what you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that's in the back of your mind the whole time.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: You know, as you played this preseason, you set these plans,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, you put the players out there and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and in the back of your mind you're thinking, Okay,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I want to get to the you know, we're we're
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: we're we're pretty good right now. I mean we're we're
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in the high eighties. You know, as far as health
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: wise going into this game, my goal was to go
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: into the fourth preseason game with ninety healthy players, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I thought, if we can do that, that would be
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: a big time win. So that's the way I'm always thinking.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I think you have to work, you have to get
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the work done, But in the back of your mind
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: there's also the health factor, and that I believe is
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: just preparation getting ready to play and be being able
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: to go out there and play at full speed. I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: really I get a little bit more nervous during the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: week of practice as far as a temple because if
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you always get one person going a little bit harder
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: than the other and you see people on the ground,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that's when you get injuries. Our guys have done a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: good job of that. But now when we go into
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a game, everyone's going full speed. I always think there's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: less chance. Is there any conversation back and forth in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the preseason, like last week, you know, you had the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: opportunity to work during the week with Mike zimmer and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: his and his football team about the game itself, you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: leading up to it, Like do you talk to Mike
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Zimber last week and practices about Hey, our game, We're
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: gonna do this. So you just say, hey, look, I'm
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: gonna do my thing they're gonna do their thing and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: we're not having any conversation about it. Well, I think
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: years ago that used to be the case. I really do,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: uh not that I would know, but this now there's
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a rule you can't do that. You can't do that,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: so you really can't talk, you know about what goes
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: on and and and that's fine. I mean, you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you have no problem. Basically, like if you just watch
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: my opinion, you watch the team preseason one, precinct or
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: two from the year before, you can see, you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: what they're doing where they're going installation wise, and it's
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: no different from us. You know, people can look at
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that and see what we're doing. So you know, I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I feel I feel comfortable with that. I don't.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You know, we're ready. I mean that's the one thing
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: which is good because it kind of keeps you on
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: your toes. I mean, you have to be ready for everything.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It's like we have to have everything in you know,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: for week one, we have to have you know, all
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the different situations. We've had to cover a lot of things.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: But then we can strategically make a decision of hey,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: do we want to go line package in on offense?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And defense or do we just play bas You know,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: those are the kind of questions that go on during
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the week. Jeff Beck and Paul Rogers tonight at Daily's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: place and you're going, yeah, and Wilson if hard as well.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: You going down there going to volleyball bowls, volleyball girls, volleyball. Nice, yeah,
• 29:39
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  Speaker 1: It was been I think the interesting thing that I
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  Speaker 1: the game plan you know fifteen right, Yeah, I expected
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  Speaker 1: that to be a little bit higher because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you might have I think he said seventy eight percent
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  Speaker 1: he's talking about twelve to fifteen percent being available for
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  Speaker 1: that range of forty, you know, would it be available
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  Speaker 1: for preseason game number three? Uh? And to say that
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  Speaker 1: it's that limited, that's that's kind of kind of amazing.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean it focuses everything down right on defensive
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  Speaker 1: much vanilla all the time, and especially in preseason game
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  Speaker 1: a fake punt in the preseason, and my first thought
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: was like, what do you do it? Well, no, there
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: was a reason why they do that. You know, when
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: when you have a fake punt that you put out
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  Speaker 1: there in a preseason now a sudden, you're making every
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  Speaker 1: coordinator prepare for that, so you're taking away from their
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  Speaker 1: prep time. Okay, So I think that one was well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, was thought out in its entirety of Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's do this so that we can take away some
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  Speaker 1: this and also prepare for other fakes. So but I
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  Speaker 1: It worked out, It worked out real well, and then
• 34:28
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• 34:30
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• 34:35
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• 34:51
  Speaker 1: terms of fifty three and how and he has talked about,
• 34:54
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• 34:56
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• 35:17
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• 35:20
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• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a core for special teamer. Okay. The guys that can
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: do all of that are are gonna make a football team. Job,
• 35:32
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• 35:34
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• 35:37
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• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and I know he's he's gonna make the team regardless
• 35:43
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• 35:46
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• 35:51
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• 35:54
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• 35:57
  Speaker 1: this team, let's think. Okay, productive training camp showed positional value,
• 36:02
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• 36:05
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• 36:08
  Speaker 1: overall on special teams in the first preseason game this
• 36:11
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• 36:14
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• 36:17
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• 36:20
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• 36:24
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• 36:27
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• 36:31
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• 36:41
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• 36:43
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• 36:46
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• 36:50
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  Speaker 1: conversation about that. You're shaking your headlocks what? Okay? I
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  Speaker 1: or sorry? Um? So, our conversation continues about the fifty
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  Speaker 1: three and the forty six and all that. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: and and be able to contribute at your regular position
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  Speaker 1: as well, and and not certainly on the special team spots,
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  Speaker 1: but the linebackers for this football team, you know, pretty
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  Speaker 1: much the starting three, Miles Jack Telvin Smith, Leon Jacobs,
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  Speaker 1: the rookie has stepped in and played well at that
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  Speaker 1: strong side spot, and he seems comfortable there. He actually
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  Speaker 1: the ability to rush as a blitzer off the edge
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  Speaker 1: and he did very well with it. That was something
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  Speaker 1: that he did not show the week before or they
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  Speaker 1: didn't utilize him in that capacity, But that was encouraging
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  Speaker 1: from him. The question that we all have for you logs,
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  Speaker 1: that's what's after that? And that's a great question. Let
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  Speaker 1: me add this and that leon Jacob still needs to
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  Speaker 1: improve and some of his special teams, you know, components
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  Speaker 1: because he has legitimate four four speed. He's the fastest
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: clock linebacker that the Jaguars have on their roster and
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you don't see the four four speed at times. So
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I want to see more of that now. But when
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: you get behind those three quote unquote starters, Okay, that's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: where the questions begin. Blair Brown was drafted last year
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and I think the expectation was that he would take
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a step up this year. You know, he comes from
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: a smaller school Ohio, and it really hasn't been a
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  Speaker 1: step up this year for him. In fact, some of
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: his awareness and when you watch him play defense and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: when you watch him play special teams, it looks like
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: at times like he doesn't know what he's supposed to do,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and that's not a good look. I mean, and trust me,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: j P. The old rule of thumb is do something
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because you know what, you can fool me
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• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and you're being decisive, that's not him, there's okay, So
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: so he's a question mark. Donald Payne last year, who
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they acquired and waivers off the Baltimore Ravens was a
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: safety in college. Okay, So he's bulked up and small
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: college against Stetson. Okay. The one thing you have to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: have when you play backup linebacker or linebacker for the Jaguars,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you have to have great speed. If you're running a
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: four eight, you're not You're not fast enough to play
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: in this scheme because how many times have we seen
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Paul pauz lesni Okay chasing a crossing wide receiver yards
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: deep on the field, or Telvin Smith covering and receiver
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: across the field. Yards eat. That's what they asked their
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: linebackers to do in this game. So you have to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: have great speed before you can even think about making
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the team. So Donald Payne has speed, Okay, so I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: think he right now he's your fourth linebacker. The rest
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of the linebackers right now, I don't know if they've
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: got enough speed to play in this scheme. They haven't
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: shown enough. I think that you know that more than
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: likely the fifth linebacker is gonna come from somebody else's
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  Speaker 1: waiver wire or trade, you know, if a trade happens
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: or something like that. And I know they added Nick
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: de Luca, rookie guy from North Dakota State. He's a
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: bising and but he's more of that's more of a
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Sam with the height, weight type thing. And they need Am.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: They need a middle linebacker. Donald Payne is probably more
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: of a of a week sidebacker or a Will Okay,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: which is Telvin's position. Miles Jack is a Mike. They
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  Speaker 1: really don't have a backup to play Mike Okay and Sam.
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  Speaker 1: You can do other things to not have to have
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a true linebacker to place sand where you can play,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh something. It would be great if you
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: can find somebody that can play all three positions, you know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: for that fifth linebacker spot. But that's not gonna be
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: easy to do, not gonna be easy at all. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: so what you hope to do is that you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: maybe there's a team out there, okay, that when you
• 44:22
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• 44:26
  Speaker 1: there's a team that has an abundance of linebackers or
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: feels really good about their linebacking group, and you feel
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• 44:40
  Speaker 1: surplus of linebackers. And then you may have a surplus
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• 44:59
  Speaker 1: out with that team that has a surplus a linebacker
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  Speaker 1: before you get to September one. Anything, a guy like
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Blair Brown and the other guys that you say aren't
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: fast enough to make this rust anything, they can do
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: between now and then to to get back in your
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: good graces. Mr. G M. I mean it's you know
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: that you can't You can't all of a sudden find
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: speed if you don't have it. Okay, so um when
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I say hungaloo, okay, it was a good football player
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: to Oregon State. Same thing with Moto Puaka. I mean,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: these guys are good football players and and they may
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: be a really good fit with another defense. But what
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: they asked the linebackers to hear speed wise, I don't
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: know if those guys had that type of speed. Uh.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Dion King hasn't really shown me much. Reggie Hunter hasn't
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: shown me much. Nick DeLuca, we'll get a look at
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: for the first time on Saturday night. But I mean
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that that's a that's a position. I think that if
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you look at and talk to if you were to
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: get an honest answer from Dave Caldwell and say where
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: do you need to find somebody out, I guarantee he
• 45:58
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• 46:01
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• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put a lock on it because you
• 46:08
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• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and things can change. Maybe a guy shows
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: up and you know, maybe suddenly starts showing that he
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: is fast and maybe he wasn't showing up before because
• 46:18
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• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Plock has great speed and just hasn't been able to
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: show up because he's thinking. But I mean, from what
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I've seen so far, they don't have it. And we'll see,
• 46:30
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• 46:32
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• 46:35
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• 46:39
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• 46:41
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Flagerman head coach Doug Maron was with us earlier
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line. We'll have a couple of new faces
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• 50:22
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• 50:25
  Speaker 1: All Pro guard and Jeremy Parnell has been battling a
• 50:28
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  Speaker 1: and play on Saturday against the Falcons. And I think Parnell,
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  Speaker 1: at least the last couple of years around here is
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  Speaker 1: really I think set the the tone on the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line with his personality is demeanor, how he goes about
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  Speaker 1: Captain Grumpy. That's what they want to be upfront. It's
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  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Right. Come on, have you noticed that
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  Speaker 1: about JP? You guys have the same nickname. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of like Mr. Grumpy, But he's a he's
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  Speaker 1: a good football player. Uh. He is a technician, as
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  Speaker 1: we talked about earlier with Boselli. And you hope that
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson can learn some of that foot consistency. But
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  Speaker 1: to see him play. I want to see him play
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  Speaker 1: him ready for the regular season. The one guy that
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  Speaker 1: I want to see get more snaps at that right
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  Speaker 1: tackle position is the young player, Will Richardson Jr. I
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  Speaker 1: thought he had a pretty good start in the Vikings game,
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  Speaker 1: and he got very limited reps, but I thought that
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  Speaker 1: he did show some things. Blocking wise, it was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: There was an awareness thing that wasn't very good on
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  Speaker 1: past protection one time. But uh, and then Norwell, you know,
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  Speaker 1: over there on the left side a little bit with
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson because you know, having having a really good
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  Speaker 1: football player play next to you, it makes you better,
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  Speaker 1: especially with offensive linemen. So I think that will help camp,
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  Speaker 1: and not that Cam needs help, but Nora. The one
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  Speaker 1: thing about him, he's like Mr Consistency when you when
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  Speaker 1: you watch him and practice throughout training camp. When he
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  Speaker 1: did practice, his feet are consistent, his effort is consistent.
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  Speaker 1: He you can tell that he is. Uh, he's a
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  Speaker 1: pro and uh much like A J. Cann who has
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  Speaker 1: been my m v P and training camp. So arguably Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of the whole team. I mean as far as like
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: or or here's another way to put it. The most
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  Speaker 1: Improved Player award, if I were to give one out,
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  Speaker 1: He was up against it too. I mean, that was
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking ahead. Let's go in the game at a time. JP,
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  Speaker 1: They clarified some things, but they were saying, hey, we're
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