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Is ICE’s latest raid really taking down the worst of the worst? · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  You're listening to the Hidden Lightness on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
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  I'm your host, Jimmy Hinton.
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  Well, a lot has happened in the news in the past week.
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  And we're going to get into one of the big ones here.
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  And this is an article that says it's Fox News article.
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  It says that ICE sweeps up convicted pedophiles, traffickers in massive holiday weekend sting.
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  Quote, worst of the worst.
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  Now the claim is by DHS that nearly 70% of ICE arrests are criminals, either charged or convicted of a crime.
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  And I don't know how anybody can argue against locking up pedophiles and traffickers.
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  I just I just want to throw that out there right now.
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  Um there are very few people in reality who actually defend pedophiles and traffickers, though they do exist.
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  I've trust me, I've experienced this.
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  In my advocacy work over the years, I've experienced many, many, many churches, uh church leaders particularly, who defend support and hide pedophiles within their churches.
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  It absolutely 100% does happen.
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  Now, is that the norm?
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  Is that the social norm?
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  I don't think so.
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  I don't think that the norm for America is to cover up and hide pedophiles.
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  And I think that's part of why you see the public outrage with the Epstein files.
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  And it's, you know, that's been a very politicized thing, and I've talked about that plenty on both sides of the aisle.
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  Um, I just I don't want to delve deeply into the Epstein files because there is so much misinformation coming from both sides of the aisle, both the Republicans and Democrats.
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  Uh, there are a lot of liars.
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  And it's just a shame to see.
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  Uh, I feel like that's something that we should all as Americans come together and just agree that child rape is wrong, that child human child sex trafficking is always wrong.
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  That the production of child abuse materials used to be called child pornography, and that term has been detested by a lot of people, and and I think with good cause, because pornography by definition kind of implies, even though it's even though it doesn't mean that in the definition, it kind of implies that there's some sort of consent.
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  And any time that anything happens with a child sexually, by definition, it is abuse, and a child cannot consent.
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  So that's why when you hear things like um, I've always had a problem with the definitions that um the titles that uh that media personnel uh they'll they'll write things like, well, uh, this 12-year-old child had an inappropriate relationship with their teacher.
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  That it's not a relationship.
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  It's by definition, that child could not consent, therefore, it was not a relationship.
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  It was, however, abuse.
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  So what the what the articles should say is that the 37-year-old teacher abused a 12-year-old minor.
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  All right, so uh this is not just semantics, this is um uh proper terminology, I think is is really important because what happens is we we tend to desensitize people to how bad this stuff really is, and it's really bad.
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  Now I I want to go off on a little bit of a uh uh side trail here for a minute, talking about the Epstein files.
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  Part of the problem with the Epstein files is we hear things like, well, they're they're eating babies, and there's human sacrifice, and uh, you know, I've read some of these files, and people are really filling in the gaps, and it's you know, it's the whole pizzagate thing uh coming back to the surface, where somebody mentions going out for pizza and all of a sudden they're like, oh, see, they're sacrificing babies on an altar.
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  And I think we need to be really careful not to um take an emotional stance and start filling in gaps where we just clearly don't have information.
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  Now, with that said, I agree wholeheartedly.
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  I don't care who was involved with uh with abusing these children in the Epstein files, if if anybody, I don't care how powerful, I don't care how much money they have, I don't care what what political affiliation they have, I don't care.
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  I don't care about any of that.
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  If anybody was involved in the abuse and corruption of minor children, they ought to be at a bare minimum locked up and the key thrown away, period.
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  They should never see the light of day, ever.
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  So I I want to say that emphatically, and unfortunately, what a lot of people have done is they've taken bits and pieces of of things that have been released by the DOJ.
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  And they're just rushing to all kinds of conclusions, and they're saying, oh, well, see, you know, so and so was involved in baby sacrifices.
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  You're like, well, not necessarily.
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  I saw another one that uh somebody made the claim that uh Michael Jackson, he even though he's in the files and he saw uh some of the things that were going on on Epstein Island, he was appalled by it, and he actually created Never Never Land or whatever it was called to protect children.
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  He created that because he knew that kids were being abused, and he wanted to give them a hideaway, a safe space.
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  You know, and so there are just all these bizarre theories out there, and uh so many different conspiracies.
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  And so I'm kind of letting the, you know, I really want to give this time, and I've spoken a little bit on the Epstein files, uh, but I've really held back, and it's been tempting.
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  I mean, believe me, it's been tempting to uh to dig deep into this, but I just don't think we have the information yet.
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  I think very clearly, I don't think I know very clearly, both sides have politicized this, and they're uh sadly they're making a mockery of the abuse of children.
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  And I don't like it.
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  I don't like it one bit.
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  Uh I wish it wasn't so, but it is, and I would love for the investigative journalists to dig deep into this and to actually find out like what's up with the redactions, because that's another thing.
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  And and no matter which side you listen to, both of them conflate what's actually going on with people's names being redacted.
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  What happened uh on Capitol Hill with Pam Bondy?
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  I'm I mean, it was so cringe worthy.
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  The things that she was saying, and not just her.
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  I it was it was representatives.
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  Uh the things that were being said on Capitol Hill were absolutely cringe worthy.
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  Like it made me crawl out of my skin.
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  I couldn't believe some of the things that were being said.
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  Some of the personal jabs and and you know, I I think very, very indicative of just the general mood for that day was Pam Bondy screaming.
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  Have you seen the stock market?
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  Have you seen the Dowell Jones?
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  And I I think that politically burned her pretty badly, and it should have.
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  It was like this this unhinged yelling and screaming and personal attacks.
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  And again, I go back to this.
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  It's always about the children.
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  It's always about the victims.
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  What's happening with the Epstein files shouldn't be about what the DOJ is doing or not doing, and it like it should always go back to this is about the victims.
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  This is about getting justice for the victims.
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  But you'll hear both Democrats and Republicans equally, in my opinion, equally guilty of spreading lies and misinformation and personal attacks against their opponents, and it's just it's very, very disheartening.
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  So at any rate, uh, I want to go back to
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  What this claim is that ICE sweeps up these convicted pedophiles, traffickers in a massive president's day, the holiday weekend sting.
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  All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna just read a little bit from this article because I don't want to misrepresent anything here.
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  As federal immigration operations continued across the country, the Department of Homeland Security, DHS continues to nab child sex predators residing in the country as illegal immigrants.
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  All right, I think no matter where you stand on the political spectrum or religious spectrum, all of us should applaud this.
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  Locking up child rapists, child predators.
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  Every single living, breathing, normal human being ought to applaud that and say, Bravo, bravo.
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  Lock them up, throw away the key.
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  All right.
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  Uh going on.
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  Child grooming, sex and ludacs with minors, including some under 14, possession of child pornography.
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  Again, that's uh the proper term for that now is child sex abuse material, CSAM, possession of child pornography, domestic assault, assault with deadly weapon, stalking, and drug trafficking were among some of DHS's worst of the worst arrests from President's Day weekend.
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  Trisha McLaughlin, uh DHS assistant secretary, she said this.
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  Over President's Day weekend, brave men and women of ICE arrested heinous criminal illegal aliens across the country convicted for sex crimes against children, rape, and drug trafficking.
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  These violent criminals will never be allowed to harm children and innocent Americans again.
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  Meanwhile, according to McLaughlin, nearly 70% of ICE arrests are of illegal immigrants either charged or convicted of a crime in the United States.
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  Quote, nothing will stop ICE law enforcement from removing them from American communities.
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  The DHS assistant secretary concluded.
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  All right, so I want to dig into these claims for a second, because you know, it's it's it's pretty easy to take a mainstream news article.
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  And to just take that as gospel fact.
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  And what I wanted to do was kind of compare these numbers against ICE's own numbers and DHS's own numbers.
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  And find out, is that really true?
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  Because if that's true, that 70% of ICE arrests are of illegals, either charged or convicted of a crime in the United States.
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  I would I would applaud that.
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  I'd say, that's good.
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  Yeah, 70% of these people are hardened criminals.
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  Though it doesn't say hardened criminals, let me read it exactly word for word.
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  Nearly 70% of ICE arrests are of illegal immigrants, either charged or convicted of a crime in the United States.
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  Now, right away, my mind goes to okay, what were the crimes?
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  What are the crimes they were charged with?
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  Because that really matters.
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  Now, some people would argue, well, it doesn't matter because, as President Trump said, they're breaking the law.
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  And Marco Rubio, right?
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  If they're here in the United States, if they cross the border illegally, they're breaking the law.
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  They are by definition lawbreakers.
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  And it's uh on the surface, it's pretty hard to argue with that.
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  We have very clear, very strict immigration laws.
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  But this claim that 70% of ICE arrests are of illegal immigrants either charged or convicted of a crime in the United States.
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  What I found in digging deep into this is that that's a really conflated number.
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  And that's a number in order to politicize this and to make it sound like we fill in the gaps, right?
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  And people know this.
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  They're not stupid.
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  These are not stupid people.
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  Christy Noam is not stupid.
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  Pam Bondi is not stupid.
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  Donald Trump is not stupid.
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  Right?
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  They're not dumb people.
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  And so they know that when they throw these numbers out there, and these are official numbers, and they have Tom Homan going on record saying the same thing.
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  Nearly 70%, I've heard all of them say it.
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  Nearly 70% of ICE arrests are of illegal immigrants, either charged or convicted of a crime in the United States.
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  So our mind fills in the gaps, and we're like, oh, these are hardened criminals.
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  These are people who are violent.
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  They're the child rapists.
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  They are the worst of the worst.
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  Now, why do we use that language?
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  Worst of the worst.
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  Well, because we've been given that language.
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  That's exactly the precise terminology that they're using.
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  They are the worst of the worst.
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  In fact, let me reread the title of the article that I'm reading from.
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  ICE sweeps up convicted pedophiles, traffickers, and massive holiday weekend sting.
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  Quote, worst of the worst.
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  We've been given that language.
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  That's not my terminology.
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  That's not my phrase.
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  This is exactly the exact phraseology that's being used by ICE by DHS and by the President of the United States and others.
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  So when we hear that language, that's meant to do something inside of us.
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  The question is, are these really the worst of the worst who are being arrested?
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  ICE did a big raid over the President's Day long weekend.
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  They did a really big raid nationwide.
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  And they arrested, according to them, they arrested pedophiles, traffickers in a massive holiday weekend sting, and these are the worst of the worst.
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  Now I would agree that pedophiles, human traffickers, they are the worst of the worst.
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  It's legitimately hard to find anything worse than scumbags who abuse innocent children.
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  Children, by definition, are innocent.
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  And we tend to get very emotionally charged on this.
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  And I know, like, trust me, I know about this.
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  I have my own father is a pedophile.
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  I am the one who reported him.
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  I wrote a book about it.
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  I wrote a memoir about how my father abused children in our home and in the church for decades, and how I finally stopped them.
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  I know how emotionally invested people can get.
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  How it's absolutely disgusting.
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  And with that, um it becomes very interesting.
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  And if you want to talk about something that will divide people really quickly, it's anything that has to do with child abuse or the perception of child abuse.
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  Let me give you an example.
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  Did you all see what Michael Jordan did during the Daytona 500 celebration?
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  It was bizarre.
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  I saw the video, and given with no context, I gotta tell you, I was outraged.
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  He walks up behind a little boy, Tyler Reddick's son.
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  Tyler Reddick won, and uh Jordan, of course, this is like team Jordan.
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  And at the celebration, Jordan walks up behind Tyler Reddick's young son, and it appears as though he's grabbing, like massaging his buttocks, like in a very weird strange way.
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  I mean, it's creepy.
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  It is really creepy footage.
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  If you don't believe me, go look it up yourself.
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  And then after doing that, he uh he then starts to tickle, it looks like he's tickling the back of the kid's leg.
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  Very bizarre.
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  Here's an article.
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  This is Yahoo Sports.
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  Uh, there are tons of these articles, trust me.
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  Just look up Michael Jordan Daytona 500.
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  Uh, you'll find a plethora.
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  I mean, the internet absolutely is on fire right now.
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  Michael Jordan goes viral in wrong way for Daytona 500 celebration video with Tyler Reddick's son.
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  This is the Yahoo Sports article.
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  Michael Jordan goes viral in wrong way for Daytona 500 celebration video with Tyler Reddick's son appeared first on Clutch Points.
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  Unfortunately, while there was a lot to celebrate at the 2026 Daytona 500 for Michael Jordan, the NBA legend went viral for a celebration video with the son of this year's winner, Tyler Reddick.
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  A video has surfaced of Jordan with Reddick's son Bo during the Daytona 500 celebration.
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  He repeatedly pinches the lower back.
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  It looks to me in the video like it's not his back, but his back side.
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  It's unclear what exactly was going on.
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  Fans in the comments section say uh of Sachi's TV's post on Instagram were confused with one asking, why would he even need to do that to begin with?
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  Granted, this isn't the first time Jordan has celebrated with Bo.
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  There's an old video of Jordan holding Reddick's son after a race.
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  All right, so skipping down a little bit.
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  Um Jordan is the co-owner of 23 XI racing alongside Denny Hamlin and Curtis Polk.
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  Jordan joined the team in 2020, and the team consists of Bubba Wallace, Riley Herbst, Courtley Heim, and Raddock.
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  The 2026 Daytona 500 was February 15th in Daytona Beach, Florida.
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  And uh anyway, that's kind of it for this article.
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  There were other articles that say the internet's divided.
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  Some say that uh it was taken out of context, and that there was ice that was poured down the shirt of this kid whenever they poured the ice over the oh, you know, over Redick.
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  Some of that ice got down the shirt of Redick's son, and Jordan was trying to work the ice out of uh out of his shirt.
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  I don't know.
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  I mean, again, this is one of those things where it's a grainy video to begin with.
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  It's not the best video.
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  Uh Jordan has never been accused of anything before, to my knowledge of sexual assault.
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  And people are gonna take that, I mean, people have already taken that.
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  They've taken that one video clip and have went absolutely insane.
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  What really happened?
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  I don't know.
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  Was it weird?
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  Yep.
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  Was it strange?
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  Yep.
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  Uh, did it give me weird vibes?
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  Absolutely.
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  But does that mean that he did anything sexual?
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  I can't come to that determination.
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  I don't know based on that one video clip, but it just shows you, and that's as an expert on child sexual abuse.
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  I can't look at that video and say, all right, I would report this to police because this guy's an absolute creep.
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  I I can't do that.
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  So it shows you how emotionally charged people get when it comes to the abuse of children.
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  So ICE knows this.
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  They're not stupid, they know this, and so when they make the claim that there's this big raid, and it sounds like it's mostly child predators, child sexual predators.
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  That kind of um, it lets our guard down a little bit because we're like, well, good, lock them up.
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  I think most of us would agree with that.
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  All right, so I think there are a couple different things going on at the same time.
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  There are two different truths going on at the same time.
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  The first truth is that yes, they did in fact arrest child sexual predators who are illegal immigrants.
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  To which I say, good, lock them up, throw away the key, send them back to whatever country they came from, if and only if we can be guaranteed that that country is gonna absolutely throw the book at these people and they will never see the light of day again.
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  Lock them up and throw away the key.
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  Anyone who preys on a young child sexually, lock them up and throw away the key.
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  I I have always stood by that.
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  I also take a very strong stance.
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  This is not an emotional stance.
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  This is based on years and years of research.
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  I take a very strong stance that if anybody has ever been um criminally charged with sex offenses against a child, or if they have credible allegations of sexual misconduct against a child, they should never be allowed to step foot inside of a church.
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  And the reason I say church is because that's my area.
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  That's my area of expertise.
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  That's where I trained people.
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  I trained mostly trained churches.
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  They should never be allowed to step foot inside of a church when minor children are present ever again.
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  Ever.
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  That means they don't go there to worship.
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  That means they certainly don't go to any children's events, or they just plain and simple, don't go to that church ever when any minor children is ever on the campus, period.
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  And I I not only still stand by that after years and years, over a decade, almost a decade and a half of doing this.
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  Not only do I still stand by that stance, but I have actually hardened that stance even more.
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  100%, they do not belong around children ever again, ever.
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  All right, so uh and and that's because the research shows that child predators do not stop.
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  They never stop thinking about children sexually.
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  There's something wrong with the hardwiring inside of their brain.
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  They never stop thinking about children in a sexual way.
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  So even if they're not physically sexually assaulting the children, they are producing those images and and um thoughts inside of their brain.
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  They are thinking about your children that way, which means they can't help themselves.
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  They're looking your children up on social media.
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  They're finding ways to find images of your children.
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  And now with the advancement of artificial intelligence, I 100% would say absolutely no.
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  That's a hard no.
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  You will never be able to look at my child.
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  Period.
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  You won't be in the same room as my child.
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  Uh it's just not going to happen.
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  Alright, so knowing that most people have a very hard stance against child sexual predators.
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  ICE points to the fact that they did, in fact, arrest people, but they kind of make it sound inflated.
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  Like all of these people are child sexual predators.
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  They're not.
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  Let me read a little bit further.
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  Over the weekend, several of those illegal alien criminals arrested by ICE had previous charges related to child sex abuse.
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  Efren Guzman Lopez, who is originally from Guatemala, was picked up in Texas following a conviction for indecency with child sexual contact and child grooming.
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  Another criminal illegal alien convicted of sex offenses with a child, specifically lewd or less vicious acts with a child under 14 was picked up this weekend in California.
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  The individual originally from Mexico, Javier Milan Salgado, was also listed on the sex offender registry according to DHS.
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  Multiple individuals in California were picked up this weekend for having sex with a minor as well, according to DHS.
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  While a criminal illegal alien in Missouri, Pedro Hucab was arrested for sexual misconduct with a child under the age of 15.
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  These criminal illegal aliens were from Guatemala and Mexico.
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  Others were arrested for acts of sexual abuse and sexual assault, including in New York and Salt Lake City.
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  Drug trafficking, assault, and domestic violence were the remaining trends among DHS's worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens picked up over President's Day weekend.
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  First of all, I want to start with this.
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  Bravo.
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  That's good.
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  We should celebrate that these people are off the streets.
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  And I've said this in Minneapolis.
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  We saw the video footage of people blowing their dumb whistles and trying to impede ICE's arrest of individuals, and one guy was like, one um iCE agent was like, you people are insane.
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  He's like, you know, you're we're on our way to a to arrest a child rapist, a violent child rapist.
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  And you guys, you guys are stopping that.
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  What is wrong with you?
• 33:09
  And I saw that video, and I was like, man, that's that's telling.
• 33:13
  And you could tell.
• 33:14
  He was emotionally upset that they were stopping, they were trying to stop him from getting this child rapist locked up and put into handcuffs.
• 33:25
  And that's the problem with these kind of protests is, you know, and both sides are wrong because the one side, the protesters, they just don't care.
• 33:35
  They just lump everybody together and they're like, oh my goodness, we where's the humanity, and we need to be kind and gracious and welcoming.
• 33:44
  Well, yes, but also no.
• 33:48
  It's a complex issue.
• 33:51
  And on the other side, they make it sound like virtually every single person who's put into handcuffs is a child rapist.
• 33:57
  And that's just not true.
• 33:59
  And we'll look again at the statistics.
• 34:02
  Uh, here are more people.
• 34:04
  Alfredo Vargas and Wilfrito Vareles Rubio, both from Mexico, were each convicted of trafficking methamphetamine in Iowa and in Montana, respectively, before being picked up by ICE this weekend.
• 34:19
  A man from Honduras.
• 34:22
  Eva Rivera Molina was convicted of conspiracy to distribute crystal methamphetamine in Texas prior to his arrest by ICE.
• 34:31
  On the East Coast, in Raleigh, North Carolina, criminal alien from Mexico arrested by ICE.
• 34:38
  Hermilio Salgado Castro was previously convicted of conspiracy to distribute cocaine.
• 34:45
  And on and on it goes.
• 34:47
  It gives a few more names of people.
• 34:48
  Felony assault, domestic violence, stalking and assault with a W weapon were also among the crimes committed by those on ICE lists.
• 34:58
  Great.
• 34:59
  Lock them up.
• 35:03
  100% lock them up.
• 35:06
  I will stand there and applaud these people.
• 35:10
  The ICE, that is, for locking them up.
• 35:12
  DHS has set up a website at wow.dhs.gov where Americans can learn about the public safety threats being arrested in their communities.
• 35:23
  Now it sounds like they're being very transparent.
• 35:27
  The U.S.
• 35:28
  Department of Homeland Security is highlighting the worst of worst criminal aliens arrested by the U.S.
• 35:33
  Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE, the website's homepage reads.
• 35:40
  Under security, I'll link to this website, by the way, in the show notes.
• 35:43
  Under security gnomes leadership, the hardworking men and women of DHS and ICE are fulfilling Trump's promise and carrying out mass deportations, starting with a worst of the worst.
• 35:56
  There it is again.
• 35:57
  You can't get away from this phrase.
• 35:58
  They keep using it over and over and over.
• 36:01
  And usually when people keep using the same phrase over and over, my hackles get up a little bit.
• 36:06
  And I'm like, okay, are they really the worst of the world?
• 36:10
  Like, why do they keep highlighting that they're the worst of the worst?
• 36:15
  So we are going to take another deep dive into this.
• 36:19
  And what I found might be startling for people.
• 36:23
  Let me start here.
• 36:24
  I did kind of a report here.
• 36:28
  The 70% criminal statistic, uh, the claim the worst of the worst.
• 36:36
  Throughout the duration of Operation Metro Surge, that's in Minneapolis, DHS officials utilized a specific statistics statistic to defend against accusations of indiscriminate raiding.
• 36:50
  70% of those arrested have a criminal history.
• 36:54
  This figure was repeated across multiple platforms.
• 36:57
  Christy Gnome said it on Face the Nation.
• 37:04
  The WOW campaign.
• 37:06
  That's what I just mentioned.
• 37:07
  WOW.dHS.gov.
• 37:11
  Worst of the worst searchable database.
• 37:14
  So what's the reality?
• 37:16
  Well, a forensic audit of DHS's own internal data, alongside independent analysis from the Cato Institute track and major media outlets reveals that the 70% figure is a construct achieved through three specific inflation techniques.
• 37:37
  They include the inclusion of pending charges, the categories of status offenses as crimes, and the rhetorical conflation of criminal with the word violent.
• 37:55
  All right, so this is really interesting, but we are up on a break here, a hard break.
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• 40:01
  ICE's claim that they are arresting the worst of the worst, that 70% are violent criminals.
• 40:10
  Uh might not be that true.
• 40:13
  Now, with that said, over the weekend, over the President's Day weekend, ICE did raids across the country, and they did arrest multiple convicted pedophiles, traffickers, and uh drug traffickers and people like that.
• 40:31
  So we applaud those efforts, and I just I can't look at that and be like, oh, boo, you know, go home ICE.
• 40:40
  That's terrible.
• 40:42
  You know, I any time that violent criminals or sexual predators or drug traffickers, any time that they're taken off the street, uh, we ought to celebrate.
• 40:51
  We ought to celebrate that the streets are safer.
• 40:54
  Now, with that said, I will say that uh evidence is there that the streets are definitely safer.
• 41:01
  I've done a couple stories on this now, that the criminal statistics have plummeted, absolutely plummeted across the nation.
• 41:10
  That's good news.
• 41:11
  That's good for all of us.
• 41:13
  If you recall, I did a story about Memphis, Tennessee, where people were coming out into the streets sometimes for the first time in years, and residents were saying, we can't believe that we walk outside and we don't hear any gunfire ringing out.
• 41:31
  Our kids can go out and play in the streets without fear of being shot.
• 41:36
  And I just can't in my wildest dreams imagine what it's like to live that way.
• 41:40
  I uh I went to seminary in Memphis for nine years.
• 41:47
  Um including my undergraduate work here.
• 41:53
  Uh, I commuted.
• 41:55
  So for four and a half years, I did my graduate work in Memphis, Tennessee.
• 42:02
  I have family who live in Memphis, Tennessee, and I've driven through some of the worst parts of Memphis, Tennessee.
• 42:09
  And I gotta tell you, it's heartbreaking.
• 42:11
  It's sad.
• 42:12
  Very violent.
• 42:13
  There are parts of Memphis that I was told don't even drive through because chances are pretty good that you'll be shot at.
• 42:22
  Uh, I didn't play around, I didn't play games.
• 42:25
  Uh, quite frankly, I like my life, and I'm not going to do things to speed up my exit from planet Earth.
• 42:37
  But Memphis is uh, you know, or was uh there were just some parts that were really, really, really sketchy and violent.
• 42:47
  And last year, 2025, as crime rates were plummeting, uh, there were interviews of residents in Memphis saying we can't believe that was after President Trump sent the National Guard.
• 42:59
  If you remember that, he sent the National Guard temporarily to some of the cities across America, and residents were saying it's actually safe for our kids to go out and play.
• 43:10
  And they were thanking President Trump.
• 43:14
  They thanked him directly and said it's a direct result of his policies that it's now safe for our kids to play in the street.
• 43:22
  Now, we can't make that up.
• 43:24
  We uh we have to look at the facts, whether we like those facts or not, we have to deal in the business of facts.
• 43:34
  All right, so the streets are safer in America.
• 43:39
  That's a fact.
• 43:42
  Now, what else is going on here is that ICE is claiming that 70%, 70% of the people arrested, of the illegals who were arrested have a criminal history, and these are the worst of the worst.
• 43:57
  They keep repeating that statement over and over.
• 43:59
  The reality is that they're kind of distorting the numbers a little bit to come up with that statistic.
• 44:08
  And that's also a fact.
• 44:12
  They're being a little bit dishonest when it comes to that.
• 44:17
  So they're using three specific inflation techniques.
• 44:20
  One is the inclusion of pending charges, and that includes misdemeanors and you know, uh some very petty traffic charges like traffic stops, things like that.
• 44:34
  Number two, the categoration of status offenses as crimes.
• 44:39
  Again, that's taking misdemeanors and saying that these people are criminals.
• 44:44
  That'd be like me getting a ticket for getting to pay my speeding ticket, and I now have a warrant out for my arrest.
• 44:52
  Believe it or not, this happens a lot in America.
• 44:56
  And no, that has never happened to me.
• 44:59
  And yes, I've gotten plenty of speeding tickets.
• 45:02
  Full transparency.
• 45:05
  I have a lead foot.
• 45:06
  I like to go.
• 45:10
  And I've had plenty of speeding tickets uh throughout my life.
• 45:15
  None recently, I don't think any within the past decade.
• 45:20
  But I've had speeding tickets before, and I've always paid them in a timely manner.
• 45:25
  But if if you don't pay it in a timely manner, say you forget about it, which it happens, it happens to the best of us.
• 45:36
  They then put a warrant out for your arrest, and what DHS is doing is they're classifying those as criminal charges.
• 45:48
  Okay.
• 45:49
  So the third thing that they're doing is they're creating, they're producing a rhetoric of conflation by uh identifying criminal with violent, the word violent.
• 46:06
  So let's look at the the term charged or convicted.
• 46:12
  Again, they're including individuals with pending charges.
• 46:17
  Under U.S.
• 46:18
  law, they're uh a charge is merely an accusation by lumping charged and individuals with convicted individuals, ICE is treating the accused as guilty or statistical uh for statistical purposes.
• 46:38
  How about the volume of charges?
• 46:40
  In many cases, the pending charge may be the very reason the individual came to ICE's attention.
• 46:46
  For example, um, an arrest for a minor minor altercation or traffic stop that has not gone to trial.
• 46:54
  That puts them on ICE's radar.
• 46:56
  So there's a pending charge, which makes it pretty easy to find these people.
• 47:03
  They arrest them and they just lumped it all together, calling them the worst of the worst.
• 47:08
  You see how this works.
• 47:12
  And then the impact on the data, when independent researchers strip away pending charges and look only at convictions, the percentage of criminal arrestees drops a lot.
• 47:25
  In fact, in January 2026, only 29% of ICE detainees had actual criminal convictions, which is a historical low.
• 47:38
  All right, let's talk about the second technique.
• 47:42
  The violent crime lie.
• 47:45
  Secretary Gnome's specific um assertion that 70% of arrestees had committed violent crimes is demonstrably false.
• 47:55
  And it's contradicted by her agency's internal records.
• 48:01
  The internal DHS data, which was leaked, that's kind of interesting.
• 48:09
  They did not want this data out.
• 48:12
  There's a review of internal dashboards.
• 48:14
  It revealed that only 14% of the nearly 400,000 arrests made in the first year of Trump's administration involved violent criminal record.
• 48:25
  The Cato Institute audit.
• 48:29
  There's an analysis of book ins from October to November 2025 that found that only 5% of individuals detained had violent criminal convictions.
• 48:41
  Less than 1% of arrests involved homicide.
• 48:47
  And fewer than 2% involved sexual assault.
• 48:52
  Now that's interesting.
• 48:54
  Given the Fox News article that I just read, they made, I mean, they named names.
• 48:59
  And they made it sound like out of these 3,000 or some people who got arrested, it was several thousand, they made it sound like the vast majority of these were sexual predators.
• 49:11
  They were not less than 1% of all arrests involved homicide, and fewer than 2%, not even 2% involves sexual assault.
• 49:29
  So there's a gap between Gnome's rhetoric where 70% are violent and the data, 5 to 14% are actually violent.
• 49:38
  That's not a margin of error.
• 49:40
  It's a flat out fabrication.
• 49:45
  So we need to be honest about that.
• 49:46
  Okay, so then there's the final technique, and that is um criminalized the criminalizing status.
• 49:55
  To bolster the criminal numbers, the administration has increasingly.
• 50:00
  Utilized federal statuses that criminalize the act of migration itself.
• 50:04
  So illegal entry, that's uh eight USC 1325.
• 50:11
  That's a misdemeanor.
• 50:12
  Illegal re-entry is eight USC 1326.
• 50:18
  That's a felony.
• 50:21
  By charging unauthorized individuals with these federal crimes at the point of apprehension or citing prior illegal entry convictions, ICE can categorize arrestees as criminal, even if they've never committed a traditional public safety offense, such as theft or assault or drug distribution.
• 50:43
  So it's kind of a circular logic, right?
• 50:46
  An individual is arrested because they're undocumented, then they're charged with illegal re-entry, a felony, then they're counted in the statistics as a criminal arrest.
• 51:00
  And there's also statistical padding.
• 51:05
  That creates self-fulfilling prophecy where increased enforcement against nonviolent border crossers automatically increases the criminal arrest statistics.
• 51:17
  And then that's used to justify further enforcement.
• 51:22
  So we need to be very careful and just be honest and realize that uh we're being played by both sides.
• 51:30
  And I think that's the point that I want to make.
• 51:32
  Number one, uh, I'm all for violent criminals being taken off the street.
• 51:38
  And I'm so grateful, so so grateful to ICE for pulling violent criminals off the street.
• 51:47
  Uh I have absolutely nothing for anybody violent, whether they're uh in the country illegally or whether they're an American citizen.
• 51:56
  I have absolutely zero nothing for anybody who's violent, a violent criminal offender, a sexual predator, a human trafficker, uh drug trafficker.
• 52:09
  I have absolutely zero sympathy for them.
• 52:13
  None.
• 52:16
  Zero.
• 52:20
  But what happens is that they've lumped everybody together to create a narrative that ICE is only going after the worst of the worst.
• 52:36
  If you fill in the blanks, if you read between the lines, what our minds think is, oh my goodness, that they're going after all violent predators, sexual predators.
• 52:49
  They're going after the child rapists, they're going after the uh the drug lords, the gang members.
• 52:58
  While they are, they only make up a very small percentage of the people who are actually being arrested.
• 53:08
  So I wish they would just be honest and say, look, we're lumping everybody together.
• 53:15
  If if you're entering this country illegally, you're gonna be arrested.
• 53:22
  That includes uh people who've been here illegally, who are here illegally, and that also includes drug traffickers, child predators, human traffickers, and the like.
• 53:45
  Okay, they're they're being pretty transparent.
• 53:50
  But when they have to inflate the numbers and flat out lie about the numbers.
• 53:56
  I just I just can't support that.
• 54:00
  And I think it does more harm than good for ICE.
• 54:04
  Now, what they should do, what they should do is just be honest, be transparent, and say, look, um, we're going out there, we have a job to do.
• 54:16
  Um President Trump campaigned on arresting illegals, and that's what he's gonna do.
• 54:22
  That's what he is doing, that's what ICE is doing.
• 54:27
  And yes, there are going to be a lot of people arrested who have no criminal background.
• 54:34
  There are going to be other people who are arrested who have very criminal backgrounds.
• 54:41
  They have felonies, they're they're violent people, they're awful people, they're scums of society.
• 54:47
  And um, we're gonna focus on on all of this, but we're gonna straighten this up, and we are gonna make the streets safer.
• 54:55
  Now, if they did that, uh, I really think that the public would probably be a little bit more accepting, but I think part of the reason why people are getting so upset is because they know they're being lied to.
• 55:07
  They know that ICE is being disingenuous, they know that DHS is being disingenuous.
• 55:16
  And that makes people angry.
• 55:21
  And I'm not justifying it.
• 55:22
  You know my stance on all these protests.
• 55:26
  I'm very against them.
• 55:28
  The way that people are protesting, the violence, always against it.
• 55:32
  The destruction of people's property, I am always against that.
• 55:36
  But I think there's a better way, and uh, I just think it's a very complicated issue, and we have a lot in this nation that we need to sort out.
• 55:46
  There's just a lot of uh a lot of misspeak, a lot of emotions, and it's one of those things we all need to take a step back, take a breather.
• 56:01
  And if you want to stand on the side of people who you believe are being arrested unjustly, by all means stand up for them.
• 56:14
  By all means protest on behalf of them.
• 56:20
  But do it in a way that is peaceful, that you know, this um uh the what was the guy's name, Alex uh prettier or whatever his name was in Minnesota.
• 56:38
  The media painted him and they lied.
• 56:40
  They painted him as this kind, wonderful man, and then a couple days before he's like spitting on ice and kicking their uh like kicking their tail lights out.
• 56:51
  And it's just um I'm tired of all the lies on both sides.
• 56:55
  And America needs healing.
• 56:57
  We need to come together and we need to just work together and be a nation that's honest and truthful.
• 57:07
  And I think when we do that, we can accomplish great, great things.
• 57:12
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