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#30 - Pete Rock · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: gonna keep the intro short. Got to speak with Pete
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  Speaker 1: Rock this week. Shout out to the legend extremely interesting
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  Speaker 1: new project, Peach Strumentals, comes out Friday, but shout out
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  Speaker 1: We've got the legendary, one of the greatest of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Rock Peace Peace, What up bro man? And listen
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  Speaker 1: Pete Right, let me tell you something. When I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid, when you dropped your album, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was the Soul brother Brother Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, what
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  Speaker 1: was it? What was the album? You dropped your solo
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  Speaker 1: album and it was like ninety eight ninety nine, uh
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  Speaker 1: A Survivor, Soul Survivor. Yeah, that was the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm thirty three, so at that time I was
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  Speaker 1: like twelve or some shit. But that was the first time, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I had come up on your ship without even
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  Speaker 1: knowing about the cl smooth shit, right, So I like
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  Speaker 1: had to go back and dig in. But I just
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  Speaker 1: want to give your flowers. Man, You're a legend. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome podcast. Thank you, boss man. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I love hip hop, brother, I love what I do. Man.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's as simple as that. Man, I met
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  Speaker 1: you for the first time. I met you backstage at
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  Speaker 1: Rock the Bells with did you I have a picture
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  Speaker 1: with you and DJ Premiere Oh Okay, which is one
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  Speaker 1: of the most legendary photos I've ever taken. To have
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  Speaker 1: both of you guys together in a photo is a
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  Speaker 1: big deal, yo, talk about let's let's get in real quick.
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  Speaker 1: Just just you know, you're dropping a new project. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's all instrumentals, right, yeah, all instrumentals, no samples. I
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  Speaker 1: got a band now. Shout out to the Soul Brothers, Doro,
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  Speaker 1: Jan Nick, Christopher McBride, Mono Neon, Jermaine Holmes, Marcus Machado,
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  Speaker 1: Big Yuki. The list goes on, man, you know, I like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be one of those great seventies bands,
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  Speaker 1: like like Cooon the Gang and uh right, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: crazy to hear you say you're putting out an instrumental
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  Speaker 1: album with no samples. Yep, no samples at all. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 1: a producer is a producer, man. You gotta be able
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  Speaker 1: to make music too, like without the sampling, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And these are all my ideas with
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  Speaker 1: the band just playing them over. Yeah, why why go
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  Speaker 1: the instrumental route as opposed to I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: just your pete rock. You could get verses from whoever
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  Speaker 1: you want. You've done it before, so like, why just
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  Speaker 1: do the full instrumental route on this go round? Because
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  Speaker 1: I want people to really fill the music without no
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  Speaker 1: noise on it at first, you know what I'm saying, money,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what happened with Donuts With Dyla, it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even want to hear anybody rapping on donuts.
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  Speaker 1: You just want to press play on it and just
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  Speaker 1: vibe and just vibe, because you know what music is
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  Speaker 1: a vibe. It's medicine, it's heal, it's a healer. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's my job first, is
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  Speaker 1: to do that for the people. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And you know you can bring the rappers in anytime.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to do something like that, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I got a whole bunch of that coming
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  Speaker 1: out soon with other rappers and with my own team.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you have? Okay, I want to get get
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  Speaker 1: to a few hours of your career. But out of
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  Speaker 1: the new generation, who who's got your attention? Chris Alda facts?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying a lot of other people too,
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  Speaker 1: you know Action Bronson, you know all them type of cats,
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  Speaker 1: Freddie Gibbs, you know what I'm saying. Like people like that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm that's that's that's my wave, That's my wave
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  Speaker 1: right there? Have you tapped in with the core day kid?
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  Speaker 1: Not yet? Know you got I feel like you guys,
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  Speaker 1: would you guys would make some beautiful music together? Man,
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  Speaker 1: your phone just just dipped out. You there, you're back, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're back. I'm back. My phone died, man, I figured
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  Speaker 1: that's what happened. Yeah, I'm on my other phone now.
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  Speaker 1: All good man. Look, Pete Rock, we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: some of the newer artists that you were working with.
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  Speaker 1: You were saying, you love Griselda, Freddy Gibbs, have you
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  Speaker 1: You and Gibbs haven't worked together yet, not yet, but
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about it. We've been talking about it. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, No, I'm you know, if
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  Speaker 1: it happens, that would be dope. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm more concentrated on because I see cats
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  Speaker 1: as busy. So I'm doing, you know, my own stuff
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  Speaker 1: with my artists. Amir, who's gonna be really me? Amir? Okay? Yeah? Hey?
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  Speaker 1: You know what the album I really loved was the
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  Speaker 1: record you and Smoke did it put out together? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Don't Smoke Rock. Don't Smoke Rock? Was crazy? And then
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  Speaker 1: you put the instrumental album out. What would you guys
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  Speaker 1: do a sequel to that? Of course? Has that been
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  Speaker 1: talked about it all. Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think that in the Smith and Western Shore.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, like, you know, it's funny because you
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  Speaker 1: got you've you've been doing these joint projects, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this year and last year we're really kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the wave of like artists fully tapping in
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  Speaker 1: with a producer. You know, hit Boy did his thing
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  Speaker 1: with Benny Fred did his thing with Alchemist. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Conray did something with Alchemist. Who's somebody who you would
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  Speaker 1: like to just zone out with and do a whole
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  Speaker 1: album with that you haven't yet? Ghost Face? Ghost Face?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yep, that would be legendary. Well we have you
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  Speaker 1: have you guys spoken about that? Ever? We talked like
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  Speaker 1: a lot. We talked like a lot all the time,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what you have to see, man, ghost
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  Speaker 1: Face would be insane. Yeah, he's my personal top five. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: my personal you know what I'm saying. Like yet my
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  Speaker 1: personal list too. There's two lists, right, there's like your
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  Speaker 1: personal list and then like the list that you you know,
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  Speaker 1: the like. So when people be like, what's your top
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  Speaker 1: five or top ten? Man? I got top twenty, man,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, what are we talking about? Were we talking
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  Speaker 1: about like everyone's list or like my favorites, because there's
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  Speaker 1: like a difference my security list, my most important list
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  Speaker 1: has Jada kiss on it and ghost Face. That's fair gods, Okay, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: ghost Face the most consistent, uh, one of the most
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  Speaker 1: consistent rappers ever discography wise, album for album he could
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  Speaker 1: go against it's like him and yeah, yep, so do
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  Speaker 1: And I know, like if we ever work together, it
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  Speaker 1: would be so easy. Is it easy to work with
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  Speaker 1: Pete Rock? Yeah? How fucking yeah, I just the most
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  Speaker 1: you know what, you know what, you know what, It's
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  Speaker 1: easy to work with me when you respect me. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So you got to make sure that the artists understand, see,
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  Speaker 1: because I think that that's an important thing to say,
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  Speaker 1: because if someone's gonna do something with Pete Rock, they
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  Speaker 1: gotta understand it's a full collaborative process. You're Pete Rock.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you can't. You can't
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  Speaker 1: be disrespectful to my, to my to the way I do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to the way I'm great right, Because I
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  Speaker 1: do feel like like guys like yourself, guys like Primo.
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  Speaker 1: I wish that there was more of records like the
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  Speaker 1: record you do with Dizza. I wish that there was more.
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  Speaker 1: Like I like, I can't tell you how excited I
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  Speaker 1: was when you did the joy with with with Ye
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  Speaker 1: and when you had when when you were in that
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  Speaker 1: pocket where where Ye was doing the Good Friday Records
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  Speaker 1: and you were working with Kanye. Yeah, I was just
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  Speaker 1: so excited because I'm like, this is what I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear Pete Rock and Kanye. Why didn't happen sooner?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It would have, but you
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  Speaker 1: know like I look at it like you could just
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  Speaker 1: set it down right there. Thank you, Thank you. I
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  Speaker 1: look at it like, you know, like he's from my
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  Speaker 1: school and that was bound to happen regardless, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Talk talk about that era where you
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  Speaker 1: were tapping in with Ya and and and the Joys.
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  Speaker 1: Those are my two favorite Kanye versus probably ever. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you when he said, uh, the Holy Trinity, a bad
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  Speaker 1: bitch and a bag some hennessy, I see my only enemy.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all something about Kanye on the lyric
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  Speaker 1: tip Homeboy's nice. He's super nice that I will not
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  Speaker 1: never take that away from him. And he's very talented,
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  Speaker 1: you know, nah, for sure. Man. Was there any record
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  Speaker 1: you did with you that we didn't hear? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: did a I laid about eight beats, but I think
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  Speaker 1: he might have went in on more than just one, right,
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  Speaker 1: but I never heard it, and I doubt if he's
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  Speaker 1: using anything. But you know what I mean, right right, right,
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  Speaker 1: right right, all right? So so you got the you
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  Speaker 1: put the band together. We're getting, uh, some some great instrumentals,
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  Speaker 1: some great music, uh from you? The person who haven't
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about you, and and and and and and
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  Speaker 1: why why haven't we seen a verses with Pete? I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I feel like you're the obvious guy to
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  Speaker 1: do one. As far as the producer, I wouldn't mind
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  Speaker 1: seeing you an alchemist. I mean, I put it out
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  Speaker 1: there already, man, But nobody's biting, so it's all good.
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  Speaker 1: How how how dope was it for you as a
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  Speaker 1: fan of the culture to see there is a primo battle.
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  Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked it, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But I just felt that there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that needed to be rectified with the way it
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  Speaker 1: was coming over the Instagram. And oh, definitely, yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: was some that was before they were doing them in
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  Speaker 1: person and it was a big production. Yeah yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: get out in and out, and you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it was just a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be fixed. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Pete. Do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're underappreciated as when it comes to hip hop overall?
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you get your flowers you deserve?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I get my flowers sometimes. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, I really I really don't care, man,
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I love music. Regardless
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  Speaker 1: of how people were people on the place, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care about that shit. You know what I'm saying. What
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  Speaker 1: I care about is what's already up there in the sky.
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  Speaker 1: It's already everything I've done, man, is on top tip.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not mad at nobody or nothing or Cat's
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  Speaker 1: not recognizing you know my talent. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, real people know what time it is.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's real people, Real people
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. I'm not bothered by none of
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  Speaker 1: this shit because I have real talent. Yo. What I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate about you is you're extremely unfiltered on Twitter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your Twitter is going up, Yeah, because you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just trying to show people that, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: real side to me and that you know, even with
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  Speaker 1: the disrespect, I really don't care about that. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm saying things for me and for
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  Speaker 1: people who agree with or disagree in a respectful way,
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  Speaker 1: not in a disrespectful way, because you could disagree, but
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  Speaker 1: you don't got to be disrespectful. I think that that's
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  Speaker 1: something that we've lost sight of, right, is that you
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  Speaker 1: if you know, if you don't see eye to eye
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  Speaker 1: with someone, I feel like in twenty twenty, is automatically
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  Speaker 1: an enemy or really really contentious conversation. Like you could
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  Speaker 1: be texting somebody and somebody will take you take it
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  Speaker 1: totally the wrong way because they can't see a facial
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  Speaker 1: expression or you know, they assume that you're getting at them,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Even like, even like if
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  Speaker 1: you have any sort like you know, I don't fuck
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  Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, right, I don't. Yeah, yeah, right. I
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  Speaker 1: voted for Joe Biden at the same time I have
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: my critiques of Joe Biden too. It's like you did
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  Speaker 1: I see on your I saw, I saw some things
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  Speaker 1: you've said. But what's crazy is you can't say those
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  Speaker 1: things out loud without without people coming at you like
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  Speaker 1: bro like yeah, Like It's it's almost like you can't
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  Speaker 1: even critique people anymore. I don't care, yo, Yo. Let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you something. In the beginning, I used to
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, oh my god, oh he
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  Speaker 1: just called me this, He just disrespected me. But I
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  Speaker 1: see what it is, man, I see these low lines. Man,
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  Speaker 1: they just like to comment to get that that that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so they could go back and run back
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  Speaker 1: and tell it for yo. I was arguing with people
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  Speaker 1: like yo, yah da da da, and then he gets
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  Speaker 1: some followers behind that. Yeah. It's almost like there's people
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  Speaker 1: who wait around online all day to be offended. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing with your life? Were you're just
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: sitting on Twitter waiting and waiting to get offended. They
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  Speaker 1: not doing nothing, you know what I'm saying. So that's
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  Speaker 1: another thing that's in thought. You know, like all these
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  Speaker 1: cats ain't nobody. They just home rubbing on their peas
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  Speaker 1: right right right right right right here. Yeah, I saw, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: give me your honest thoughts. I really enjoyed. I saw
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  Speaker 1: you tweeting about the Tyson fight. I really enjoyed watching.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Mike looked nice. Yeah, he looks sharp.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, I look back on both
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  Speaker 1: of them dudes careers, and I look at how they
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  Speaker 1: used to just dance on people like Roy is the
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  Speaker 1: best boxer dancer ever, you know, back in his heyday.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, even them giving this us, you know, giving
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  Speaker 1: us this fight. Now it's like it's well appreciated because
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  Speaker 1: it's great entertainment for the times we're in. Man. We
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  Speaker 1: need some type of picker upper, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought they did a great job. Whoever the Triller
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  Speaker 1: people are they did? You know, even the Jake, the
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  Speaker 1: Jake Paul shit, you know that was that was That
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  Speaker 1: was crazy. That was crazy. And I mean I love
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Nate Robinson, He's a nick you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But when you when you pop in that ship and
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  Speaker 1: you ain't backing that ship up man, and you you
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  Speaker 1: you really not going back that up, man, that's a
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  Speaker 1: people disaster. We have a Did you pay attention to
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  Speaker 1: the Grammy nominations? No? So the Best Rap Album category
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  Speaker 1: this year was extremely It was some real hip hop
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  Speaker 1: ship that got nominated. Yeah, something online I know. Freddy
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs got nominated. Freddy Gibbs got nominated, Royce the five
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  Speaker 1: nine got nominated. J J Electronica, uh NAS for King's
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  Speaker 1: Disease and uh and this kid from LA named d Smoke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering. D Smoke is really dope, talented kid from
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  Speaker 1: Englewood out here in LA. He's uh. He was on
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  Speaker 1: that show Rhythm and Flow on Netflix, but really fucking
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  Speaker 1: amazing artists. I'm wondering though, what was your favorite album
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  Speaker 1: of the year of this year of this year. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's so good. It's so good, yo. Tell me how
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  Speaker 1: crazy see the Fhara con speeches on there and how
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  Speaker 1: it leads into bus of spasm. Man, people are so
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  Speaker 1: afraid of the truth, bro, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: And that's one thing I commend about bust the rhymes,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, doing this album. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: because it's real times right now, and you you know,
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  Speaker 1: to say to do something else other than something real,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ain't the move. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So ELI is the best album in twenty twenty. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy too, because it tells you how important it
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  Speaker 1: is to make timeless music because a lot of this album,
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  Speaker 1: some of these songs are ten years old, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they still resonate right now, like and
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  Speaker 1: then so you're a part of the intro talk about
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  Speaker 1: how old that record is. Man, nineteen ninety two, and
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  Speaker 1: you know it was you know the joint I did
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: for Nasen. He brought it back on some next you
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: got the I thought it was dope. He gave you
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the feature like it's a feature in Pete Rock Love.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I love Buster Rhymes. We have a really good relationship
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: going back since nineteen ninety one. So that's my guy,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you know, shit, man, Look,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of great music that came out,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the way some of
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the music that you hear, there's no real structure on
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the album. This bust. The album has structure. M it's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: front to back, front to back, and you can tell
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that Buster cares about his audience. You could tell that
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: he made this album for them, and you could tell
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that he is a hip hopper in his heart. All
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the way he took he took the time on this album,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and in an era where no one takes time on
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: their projects. Everybody's just rushing and throwing stuff out and
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: there's no rush to throw music out. I want you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to take me back to obviously you're a part of
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: my favorite album ever, Illmatic, which is probably if you
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: were to, you know, interview one hundred taste makers and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: hip hop, it'd probably get the most first place votes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think it's probably undisputedly
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that's amount Rushmore album. Yes, when did you first meet Nas?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety on ninety one when I was hanging around
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: with Large Professor and the Queens shout out to Large
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Professor now that this was? Was this around the time
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Live at the Barbecued release or was it before that?
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: It was it was around that this around that time?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And and did that before that? And when you're working
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: on Illmatic, when you're working on with Nas, are you
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like aware at the moment? Because I feel like so
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: much we're we're living in the moment, so sometimes you
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: don't realize like the history were a part of or
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: or like like, were you like aware at the time?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Are you conscious of like, Yo, this ship is like
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: this is going to change hip hop. Well depending on
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: who got the beat, and anytime I'm working with him,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you know, something good is gonna happen. So that's basically
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: what that was. And when I when he heard the beat,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it triggered something in him and you know, he on
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the spot. He came up with the hook and he
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I want you to I want you
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to say this hook. I want you to sing this hook.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You know, did it. I ain't want to do it
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: at first, but I did it. I ended up doing it. Yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it's crazy because I also feel like you don't get
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you don't get enough. You don't get props as much
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: as you should as a also as a as a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: as an artist, I mean as a producer. You know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I just feel like as an artist as well, I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: feel like you don't get the respect. Maybe I'm not
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: supposed to be getting all this respect and stuff from like,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't care, bro, you know what
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you know what people are gonna be
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: who they are. It's all good man. You know, you
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: got people out here who are clueless on what Pete
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Rock has done. You know how important he is. All
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that you know what I'm saying. And then you got
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: people that show love. You got people that's like, yo,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you are that nigga? Still you know what I'm saying.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: And hey, man, you know it is what it is.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not mad
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: at nobody. You know. There's so many dope people that producers,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: rappers that I want to work with. Still, you know
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I would love to hear the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Freddy Gibbs for me, would be would be would be
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: special and listen, I would put my foot in that
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: one and the and a ghost Face A ghost Face
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: project would be fucking insane to that that put two
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: feet in that. I feel like you've you've definitely probably
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: answered who are your favorite producers of all time? I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: want to know who do you think is the most
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: slept on? Two or three producers? Ever? Two or three
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: producers you mean, like two or three producers that that
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you think deserve to be in more conversations, because I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: do think there are a lot that are you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I think large professors one of them. I think there's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a lot. But like, who do you got in that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: in that? In that list? Black milk, Black milk is
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: so cold. Black milk needs more props. You know what
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's dope. You know what I'm saying. So dope.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if people up on vitamin D,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: but he dope too. Oh my goodness, he's a He's
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: one of my new favorite dudes. Yeah right, Yeah, Darrenger's dope.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: The Griselda guy, he's he's great. I think, like, yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: d gets it in. You know what I'm saying. But
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I was an Alchemist fan. You know what I'm saying.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Of course alc Man, Yeah, yep, Alchemists and you know
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: everyone else. I'm a fan of all producers. It's not
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a fan like Ninth one. Everybody. I like everyone. You
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, is there. I'm gonna say Dila
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and mad Lib on my two favorites. Yo, How crazy
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: were both of those mad Lit projects with Fred? Wow? Stupidity?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Come on, man be having joints man beat. I heard.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I heard he made a lot of bandana on an iPad,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: which is crazy. He's played me so many joints and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: sent me so much stuff. We talk almost every other day.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And then you know, when I tell people that they're
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: like I can't get him on the phone for nothing,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I can't find him. That's all right, Yo, do you
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like shout out to mad Lib? But do you think,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: like how often do you cause you know, I always
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I heard this story that Kanye once snatched drums from
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Doctor Dre back in the day, he probably did. How
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: often do you like as producers share like sounds or like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: have you ever hit somebody up? Like, Yo, where'd you
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: get those drums? No? Not not Pete Rock. I find
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: my own kicks and snares. Man, I got. I'm a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: dig I'm a heavy digger man. That's all we do.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: When as soon as we put the needle down where
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: we don't you know, we're looking for samples. But sometimes
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: when we put the needle down, you hear a popping
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: ass snare bop, you know what I'm saying, or I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: had or you know, right, make snares some scratch, homie.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because in twenty twenty, how
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: are like, like, what what do you use to make beats?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Are you using like like this? Because obviously times have changed,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: technologies change. Back in the day, we used to carry
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: records when we were DJ. Now we don't need records.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: How are you still using your old school equipment? Are
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you on like reason pro tools? Like what are you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: using or vinyl forever? I'm not a digital motherfucker. You
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You ain't digital at all? You haven't.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You have a compromise on that. Do the digital work,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: don't get it fucked up? Right? I do that shit.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: But I'm when I'm home, man, it's it's viinal man.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And even like certain forty five parties, I may pop
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: up and do I'm bringing a little box out of vinyl.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Damn the forty fives. It's a beautiful thing. Man. Are
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you do you have anything else that you have in
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the can right now, Pete, that you're working on outside
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of this instrumental project is about to drop. Yes, a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff, A whole twenty twenty one is
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be an awesome you know. Can you kind of
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: give us any sort of hints? I got my band,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Pete Rock and the Soul Brothers album we're working on
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: right not the Peastrumentals three. They're they're they're featured on that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: On every beat they're playing over every joint that you hear.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Right then, we drop an album, right and then my
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: man the Mayor comes the rapper the MC, and we
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: got a mixtape coming out called Worth Its Weight and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Soul where I just just taking anything Rick James outstanding
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and fat back then and in certain you know, obscure
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: beats and mixing it all together and you know, give
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: people a feel of who this guy is. And you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that you could just
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: it's a mixtape, it's free and you could just like
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: kind of jam to it and lyrically do this dope.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: How what is your temperature on hip hop currently? I
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: feel like it's been in a dark place and I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: feel like things are starting to turn around a little.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's starting to turn around. So my temperatures right now,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: it's sixty five degrees. Okay, you're not freezing. No, I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: not freezing, but I'm in the middle somewhere, you know
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I'm trying to get to the heat.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, you might have been freezing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I was. I was in
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: an igloo. Shit was rough, ship was rough, I was
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: angry and upset. You know what I'm saying. You know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: because I can't stand whack beats and lyrics. I can't. Yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it's it's like some some some somewhere down the line,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: this this like idea of like super overmodulated just very
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: just just just a lot of this ship that was
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: coming out just sounded like noise bro exactly, man. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it was just like, I know, I was angry in
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the beginning because it was going over my head like damn,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: these guys ain't learned. Maybe we got to reteach them. Mmmm.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And then I snapped out of it, you know what
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, and was like, all right, you know, let
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: me just put some music out and see who bites.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Hey, when you worked with with ya on
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the Joy were you were you in? Was that when
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you did you go to Hawaii for that? Yes? I did?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: What was that? What was that? What was that trip? Like?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: What was it like being out there working on history?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Because obviously that ended up on Watched the Throne? But
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you know that was my beautiful dark twits, the fantasy
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you know sessions yep, yep, yep. And it was great.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, ship, that dude is living like a prince,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you know, at least on the Hawaii side. I've been
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to his malleible, but that was that No, no, no,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that was Russell the comedian. I went to hang yes
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: in Malibu and he told me who lives around him
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and near him? And I think jay Z lived down
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the street and Kanye lived over there and so so.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we was in Hawaii and had a huge
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it was it was great. I had I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: had fun. Yeah, it was crazy because at that time,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: he brought Riza into the fold. He brought you into
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the fold, and it was like finally, like this, this
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: is the people we want to see Kanye work with.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: These are the people who inspired him. Like I laid
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I laid eight beats. I laid eight of my own beats,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and it just we
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: narrowed it down to one, right, you know what I'm saying.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yes, but I mean, you know, I had
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: so much fun. I met that was my first time
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: meeting Rick Rose, Rick, I mean Rose, you know what
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I met Kick Cuddy that day. Yeah. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: met John Legend and his wife that day. Wow. Yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: And while we were working all day and then Kanye
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: had these little pieces of paper up all over the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: studio saying no Twitter, no Twitter. Yeah, that tells you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: how how long ago it was, because now would be
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: no Instagram. Yeah. I remember he did something like that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: online where he talked about you know, and then when
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I went over there and it was in the studio,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you know, he had it all over the studio. Were
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you were you there to witness Rick Ross laying down
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: his verse for Devil in a new dress? No, I didn't.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that go down because that that's one
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of my favorite versus. But look, uh, the project comes
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: out next Friday or tomorrow or tonight eleven, December eleven,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: so next Friday, yes, the volume three mm hmm and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: then and then twenty twenty one, so much more coming
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: what I can't wait to start. And there it is, Hey, hey, hey,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and and uh shout out your artist amir, like how
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: can we find him online? And all that just we
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: could tap in with him. He goes by a m
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: x x R for showing on Instagram with you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: periods between each syllable. All right, my g will Look,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your time and and and thank you for
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: charging your phone up. Yeah, and you also you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: go on my page if you want to hear like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: two clips of the mixtape. You'll see you'll see the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: cover with me and him on there. Are you gonna
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: be doing a vinyl pressing it all? Yes, yep, boom
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: go support man, have fun with it. You know what
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. You got to peep rock. Thank you for
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: your time, bro, God bless you kids. Yes, sir, all right,