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Gordie Chiesa on the NBA Playoffs, T'Wolves game 1 upset over Wemby and the Spurs, Anthony Edwards' playing hurt + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk.
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  Speaker 2: Stay for his list of the day our list today,
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  Speaker 2: here's oc with basketball sob on Gordy Chiaysa on The
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: We welcome in our NBA guru to talks to playoff basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy Chiasa, Welcome back to the show. How are you, sir, Sean.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing well, Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I just spent fifteen minutes ranting about my admiration for
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards forcing his way back into a Game one lineup,
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  Speaker 3: coming off the bench, playing the way that he did,
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  Speaker 3: you know, arguing with his own coach that he wants
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  Speaker 3: to stay don't worry about minutes restrictions.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: What did you make of his performance in Game one
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  Speaker 3: in a Timberwolves win?
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  Speaker 4: Very much. The whole thing he said mentioned before is
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  Speaker 4: that he wanted to win badly. Eleven points in the
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  Speaker 4: fourth quarter. He delivered when they had to make baskets
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  Speaker 4: and plays. He was right there, he heats emotional. That's
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  Speaker 4: to make him such a terrific player, where he wants
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  Speaker 4: to be out there with his teammates. He goes last
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  Speaker 4: night in the twenty five minutes. I'm sure next game
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  Speaker 4: he'll start, and that's that's good. So he was good
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  Speaker 4: caution as far as not starting him. They tried to
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  Speaker 4: hold him out much as they could. And now he's
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  Speaker 4: ready to play, and so he's passionate. And then the
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  Speaker 4: NBA playoffs there's no tomorrow that each game does matter,
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  Speaker 4: and so did each possession, and he wants to be
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  Speaker 4: out with his teammates. Also from a team standpoint, it's
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  Speaker 4: uplifting that maybe he was doubtly he's going to play
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  Speaker 4: in the first two games in this series, but he
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  Speaker 4: was able to deliver, and now his teammates respect me
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  Speaker 4: even more.
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  Speaker 3: Victor Winbyama had an historic but kind of strange game
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  Speaker 3: last night. Dominant at the defensive end, really bad from
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  Speaker 3: three point shooting last night. You know, he talked Postgabe
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  Speaker 3: about how he needs to manage his energy better and
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  Speaker 3: not waste things on the offensive end. I'm curious how
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  Speaker 3: you evaluated his performance and more than why he was
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  Speaker 3: so bad offensively last night.
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  Speaker 4: Well, first thing is that they're being more physical with him,
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  Speaker 4: and so Rudy Gobert and nasried and all the guys
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  Speaker 4: who were trying to guard him that they really got
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  Speaker 4: after him. And so he shot five to seventeen and
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  Speaker 4: he struggled in the second half to say that you
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  Speaker 4: need to go two points and a two point loss
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  Speaker 4: for his team. And add to that part of it
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  Speaker 4: was just the whole thing where the Spurs are first
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  Speaker 4: game jitters as far as even though the first round
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  Speaker 4: was really easy for them, and now each round gets
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  Speaker 4: even harder. And Rudy Gobert is so purposed. During the
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  Speaker 4: first two series against Nikolai Jokic, Nuggets went beyond the
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  Speaker 4: is to try to slow him down, and so there's
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  Speaker 4: much more physicality and when beyond it takes years. But
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  Speaker 4: also in the meantime, every possession you've got to be
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  Speaker 4: able to be mentally strong and physically and so that's
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  Speaker 4: not think he's only twenty two years old. His twelve
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  Speaker 4: blocks are phenomenal, absolutely, and that's at the NBA record
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  Speaker 4: for most blocks in a postseason, beating out kim rajah On,
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  Speaker 4: Mark Eaton, and Andrew binam So twelve blocks was great
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  Speaker 4: offensively from three point range. He's got to be able
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  Speaker 4: to mix that better. Last night, the two main players
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  Speaker 4: from the Spurs shown from three point range Victory and
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  Speaker 4: Beyonder and also Darren Fox. They go oh for twelve
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  Speaker 4: from three and a two point loss. And so next
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  Speaker 4: game those guys will be ready to make shots and
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  Speaker 4: be more physical and velocity offensively.
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  Speaker 3: In combat sports, there's an adage about how styles making
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  Speaker 3: fights right that sometimes the matchup is more important than
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  Speaker 3: your individual talent. How do you what you're good at
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  Speaker 3: match up with what he's good at and vice versa.
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  Speaker 3: We saw that in the first round series with Minnesota
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  Speaker 3: and the Denver Nuggets. Does their style match up well
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  Speaker 3: with this San Antonio Spurs team in a way that
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  Speaker 3: maybe other teams in the West.
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  Speaker 4: Don't yes very much? And also add to that, as
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  Speaker 4: far as experience, the che Wolves have lost in the
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  Speaker 4: conference finals back to back years, so in their world
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to get to the conference final, which is
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  Speaker 4: really hard to do, being a final four three straight
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  Speaker 4: years in the NBA, and so their veterans are good
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  Speaker 4: and the star player Anthony Edwards is a major talent.
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  Speaker 4: Just showed last night. What he's all about as far
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  Speaker 4: as about his teammates and Julius Randall is a bully scorer,
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  Speaker 4: and so the matchups for the t Wolves is that
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  Speaker 4: it's very advantageous for them. At the flip side for
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  Speaker 4: the San Antonio Spurs. Again, I'm not going to react
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  Speaker 4: as a two point loss and Champenne shot, I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was going to go down and win that game
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  Speaker 4: from the left at the buzzer. That's that rhythm three
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  Speaker 4: which was wide open. But with that said, the reason
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  Speaker 4: why they lost was the physicality of their tea Wolves
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  Speaker 4: and that's a huge factor as far as understanding how
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  Speaker 4: to mix up the three point shots and how you
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  Speaker 4: finish mid range game and also how you drive to
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  Speaker 4: the basket. And the t Wolves do match up with them,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chase is our guest here on the Shot on
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  Speaker 3: Carlo Show Talk at All Things NBA Playoffs. The Philadelphia
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  Speaker 3: seventy six ers went out with a whimper against the
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  Speaker 3: New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: Now the Knicks are on the roll, They're.
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  Speaker 3: Blowing people out, And was last night more about the
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  Speaker 3: Knicks being dominant or about Philadelphia not being prepared.
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  Speaker 4: Knicks being dominant. Yeah, Philadelphia coming up with an emotional
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  Speaker 4: victory in Game seven, which is absolutely spectacular. However, they
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  Speaker 4: had low energy, but part of it is because the
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  Speaker 4: Knicks was so fast and Jalen Brunson showed his brilliance
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  Speaker 4: as one of the best all time nick Obocker players
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  Speaker 4: with thirty five points. He was brilliant twenty seven points
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  Speaker 4: in the first half, So it was a combination of both.
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  Speaker 4: Was more Knicks, Knicks said the record now in the
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  Speaker 4: postseason where they've now have won three straight posted in
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  Speaker 4: games by twenty five plus points or more. That's a
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  Speaker 4: historical standard. It's never happened before where they're dominant. Y
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  Speaker 4: Dreel Embiid, who played very well in the first series.
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  Speaker 4: Last night's game, he had no opposite rebounds, no blocks,
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  Speaker 4: and no steals. It goes three to eleven, so they
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  Speaker 4: can't win. I guess nickerbockers without Joel Embiid having a
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  Speaker 4: high level game, and so the Knicks are ready to play.
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  Speaker 4: They blested the seventy sixes you mentioned for pour, but
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  Speaker 4: thirty nine points. I'm looking forward to now Game two
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  Speaker 4: Wednesday night in the Garden. So now you're seventy six ers.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to sit in New York City for a
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  Speaker 4: day and a half on Midtown Manhattan, and wherever you go,
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  Speaker 4: people are saying to you about your being chumped, etc.
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  Speaker 4: I lived that life that just played the Bulls, the
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  Speaker 4: same scenario where collectively the players do rally. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking at so Gibrili. The playoffs start in my mind
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  Speaker 4: in game two on Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 3: I was listening to conversations this morning about the Lakers
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  Speaker 3: series and about the questions of whether a forty one
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  Speaker 3: year old Lebron James can continue to do what he's
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  Speaker 3: been doing, especially because Luca is not even a full
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  Speaker 3: participant in practices yet this Thunder team has been incredible. There,
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  Speaker 3: of course the defending champs. How do you handicap Thunder
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  Speaker 3: versus La?
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  Speaker 4: I like the Thunder in six games, but I like
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  Speaker 4: Lebron all the time. Say's the question, philosophically, do we
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  Speaker 4: all think that lou Dort, Jalen Williams and Kendrick Williams
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  Speaker 4: can slow down Lebron? And the answer is no. So
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  Speaker 4: eventually they're gonna play Caruso at six foot six trying
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  Speaker 4: to get under Lebron's body to try to slow him down.
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  Speaker 4: So Lebron has a great matchup in this series, and
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  Speaker 4: so the question is fill again, can he help will
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  Speaker 4: his team to win by making place. I see the
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  Speaker 4: big matchup's going to be DeAndre Ayton has to outplay
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  Speaker 4: outfight Chet Hungrim and as Aya Hartstein. And then the
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  Speaker 4: question also philosophically is can Marcus Smart have enough tenacity
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  Speaker 4: and enough range of defensive to try to attempt to
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  Speaker 4: slow down shape Jiles Alexander. And so it's really a
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  Speaker 4: fascinating matchup. I do think that Thunder are going to
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  Speaker 4: win because they're so deep as far as one to ten,
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  Speaker 4: but I like the Lakers battling. Let's put his own
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  Speaker 4: context with Lebron James, who turns forty two on the
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  Speaker 4: Stember thirtieth of this year. When Lebron last time played
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  Speaker 4: against the Thunder in twenty and twelve, which is now
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  Speaker 4: fourteen years ago, in the postseason, Bronni James was seven
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  Speaker 4: years old, Jared McCain of the Thunder was eight years old,
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  Speaker 4: ched Honkering of the Thunder was ten years old, and
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  Speaker 4: Shay Jills Alexander was thirteen years old. That's how great
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  Speaker 4: Lebron is then and still now.
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  Speaker 1: That's absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 3: Who is the same Who's the second most important player
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  Speaker 3: in this Lakers lineup until they get Luca back.
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  Speaker 4: Luke Renard got to make shots, but he needs help out,
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  Speaker 4: he needs a screen, and he needs spacing. So he's
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  Speaker 4: got to get himself going. Now. Of course, the flip
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  Speaker 4: side is going to be they're going to try to
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  Speaker 4: they're going to leave him. They're gonna not leave him.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of times when you're a knocked down
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  Speaker 4: shooter like Kyle Korp former Jazz Joe Ingalls, especially in
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  Speaker 4: playoff games where schematically the defense is absolutely there's no
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  Speaker 4: excuse leaving a shooter right open for a corner three
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  Speaker 4: the game plan, what do you? What's the problem? You're
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  Speaker 4: leaving him and so the players defensively know that. But
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  Speaker 4: with that said, you've got to move him around. Set screens,
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  Speaker 4: do you, as the best way as a great shooter
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  Speaker 4: to get free is be a screen of yourself. I
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  Speaker 4: just describe Stephen Curry and a younger version of Klay
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  Speaker 4: Thompson with the Warriors. So Cannard's gut get himself going
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  Speaker 4: as far as moving around and not let the thunder
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  Speaker 4: stationary guard him. So it's gonna be a fascinating can
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  Speaker 4: he do it? Will he do it? And can his
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  Speaker 4: teammates find him in catch rhythm? The playoffs, there's nothing
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  Speaker 4: like it showing. It's so like intense and it's a
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  Speaker 4: mental game, and within the game, it's another game going
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  Speaker 4: on the previous possessions. Most shooters in playoff games have
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  Speaker 4: to shoot forward, not backwards. You miss one or two shots,
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  Speaker 4: you've got yourself down before gets the defeat, ready to
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  Speaker 4: make the next shot because the stakes are so high.
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  Speaker 1: The Pistons had a scare in round one.
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  Speaker 3: They start their series against the Cavaliers tonight, five o'clock
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  Speaker 3: on NBC. Is it smoother this time for the Pistons
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  Speaker 3: or are the Cavaliers a team that can take them out?
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  Speaker 4: Take him out? Caw Bless could absolutely yes, very much.
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  Speaker 4: Donvin Mitchell, former Jazz tremendous player, in his nine year career,
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  Speaker 4: has never won a second round series. So donovanine straight
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  Speaker 4: years in the playoffs, and we all know Donovan's game nine,
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  Speaker 4: So nine straight years, never gotten past the second round.
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  Speaker 4: So in his world, he's going to be in a
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  Speaker 4: strike mode, attack mode to try to get himself going,
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  Speaker 4: but also his teammate's going. The Pistons are the defensive minded,
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  Speaker 4: physical team, now so are the Calves. So this is
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  Speaker 4: going to be a half court series basically, So can
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  Speaker 4: James Harden and Donovan Mitchell? Can they outplay Kate Cunningham
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  Speaker 4: and Erston Thompson That's the first thing philosophically, and Eric
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  Speaker 4: Mobley are jumping Jack. Can he slow down Tobias Harris
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  Speaker 4: who had a great matchup in against Celtics, and then
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  Speaker 4: Jared Allen versus Jellen Duran Duran who's a tremendous young
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  Speaker 4: town and then Dennis Shrewd and all the other guys
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  Speaker 4: off the bench for the Cavaliers and the Pistons. So
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be a deep series. It's going to go.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's going to go very very long, and
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  Speaker 4: I do like possibly the Cavs upsetting the first seed
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  Speaker 4: the Detroit Pistons.
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  Speaker 1: What's your list today, Gordon?
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  Speaker 4: My list today is the power of coaching. And before
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  Speaker 4: I forget, is that you know about the G League?
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  Speaker 4: People was talking about the G League et cetera. Is
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  Speaker 4: not important. Well, I know I'm not objective because I
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  Speaker 4: worked for the NBA one time as a G League
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  Speaker 4: mentor as far as coaching. So what that said was
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  Speaker 4: that there's three coaches in the final eight in the
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  Speaker 4: NBA that have where were once head coaches in the
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  Speaker 4: G League. They are Mark Daknot of the Thunder, Nick
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  Speaker 4: Nurse of the seventy Sixes, and Chris Finch of the
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  Speaker 4: t Wolves. So three to eight people who are in
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  Speaker 4: the final eight in the NBA were G League coaches
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  Speaker 4: as head coaches, and that just shows you the power
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  Speaker 4: of coaching. So my list today is the most career
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  Speaker 4: wins by a head coach in NBA playoff history, the
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  Speaker 4: most wins as a coach, his seven quick attributes as
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  Speaker 4: far as master traits of elite coaches at any level
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  Speaker 4: one listening, two, communicating, three, teaching, four, organizing, five delegating,
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  Speaker 4: six inspiring, and seven under pressure skills. So whether your
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  Speaker 4: coach in junior high or a high school college or
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  Speaker 4: a big bad NBA or the NFL, most coaches have mestered,
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  Speaker 4: if not all, many of those traits. Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: Twelve all time playoff victories are tie George Carr and
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  Speaker 4: Lenny Wilkins with eighty playoff wins. Number eleven all time,
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  Speaker 4: Casey Jones with eighty one, number ten all time. He
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  Speaker 4: coaches the Paces right now. Rick Carlo with eighty six,
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  Speaker 4: number nine all time. My former colleague and friend Jerry
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  Speaker 4: Sloan is ninth all time coaching player victories with ninety eight,
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  Speaker 4: eighth all time, Brett Alback with ninety nine seven all time,
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  Speaker 4: Larry Brown with one hundred sixth all time. He might retire,
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  Speaker 4: maybe not. Golden State Warriors Steve Kirk with one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and four playoff victories number five all time. Eric Spolstrom
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  Speaker 4: of Mammy Heat with one hundred and ten number four,
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  Speaker 4: just recently retired. Doc Rivers fourth all time with one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fourteenth victories. Number three. San Antonio Spurs former
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  Speaker 4: head coach for twenty nine years, Great Popovich with one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and seventy victories Number two, still running to Mammy
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  Speaker 4: Heat all those decades. Pat Riley's second all time with
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy one, and the number one head
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  Speaker 4: coach in the NBA with the most ever postseason victories
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  Speaker 4: is Phil Jackson with two hundred and twenty nine victories,
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  Speaker 4: which comes to fifty winny percentage of postseason games, And
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  Speaker 4: that just shows you that these people have longevity and
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  Speaker 4: one of the master trade. All right, Oh see who
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  Speaker 4: has in the NFL? Who has the most ever postseason
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  Speaker 4: victories of playoff games in the NFL?
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  Speaker 1: Right now? It's Bill Belichick, that is correct.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, Belichick with thirty one thirty one. Andy Reeves
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  Speaker 4: is second with twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: So Andy Reid is he's got a real good chance
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  Speaker 3: of passing up Belichick and being and being the guy.
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  Speaker 1: Uh right now.
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  Speaker 3: In the NBA, there's there's there's no one really close
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  Speaker 3: to Phil Jackson who has the best chance to pass him.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody. Yeah, now really nobody. You have to coach, it's
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  Speaker 4: a long time, that's the first thing. And also that
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  Speaker 4: you have to have around you elite talent for decades,
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  Speaker 4: and so Phil Jackson, you know, to his credit, but
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  Speaker 4: also coaching elite talent is very difficult also because of
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  Speaker 4: the personalities. And it just shows you that he's able
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  Speaker 4: to with his own, you know, cult himself as far
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  Speaker 4: as get these guys to play as unit literally majority
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  Speaker 4: of the time. And it's hard to do. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: coaching is I know, I'm not objective because I'm a
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  Speaker 4: former coach for thirty six years, but it's hard because
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  Speaker 4: you're dealing with a lot of interesting personalities and that
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  Speaker 4: everybody does want to win, but on their terms versus
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  Speaker 4: what's best for our group. And the last point I
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  Speaker 4: want to say about this is that how can a
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  Speaker 4: star player showcase the individual talent within the framework of
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  Speaker 4: a team. That's the mission statement of a coach to
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  Speaker 4: allow that star player to do it, and the coach
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  Speaker 4: that I mentioned on this list, they messed that trait
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  Speaker 4: of doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy love catching up with you on all things NBA.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see you in studio on Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Sewan, peace out.
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  Speaker 1: That's Gordy Chierza, our resident NBA guru.