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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace bombshell and a stunning twist.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Barry Morphew is charged again and the murder of his wife,
- 0:14Speaker 1: Suzanne Morphew.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I spent days.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Tramping around the entire area and realized very quickly how
- 0:23Speaker 1: difficult it would.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Be to find Suzanne Morphew's remains. But guess what.
- 0:30Speaker 1: They were found in a remote area, and those remains
- 0:36Speaker 1: really crack this case wide open. Take a listen to
- 0:41Speaker 1: Anne Kelly, District Attorney, twelve Judicial District.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Suzanne Morphew was reported missing on Mother's Day five years ago.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Law enforcement has never stopped working to obtain justice for
- 0:56Speaker 3: this mother of two, this daughter, this sister, and this
- 1:01Speaker 3: beloved member of the Chaffey County community. Through the tireless
- 1:07Speaker 3: efforts of the Chaffey County Sheriff's Office, the Sawatch County
- 1:12Speaker 3: Sheriff's Office, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, and the Federal
- 1:16Speaker 3: Bureau of Investigation, I can announce today that the twelfth
- 1:21Speaker 3: Judicial District Grand Jury returned an indictment. The grand jury
- 1:27Speaker 3: has indicted Barry Morphew on the single count of murder
- 1:31Speaker 3: in the first degree.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Many of us thought this day may never come, but
- 1:36Speaker 1: held out hope for justice for Suzanne. As you will
- 1:40Speaker 1: all recall, he the husband Bary Morphew, had been indicted
- 1:45Speaker 1: before and the case was thrown out of court on
- 1:50Speaker 1: alleged prosecutorial misconduct. Now years have passed and the case
- 1:56Speaker 1: has been revived, brought back from the dead straight out
- 2:00Speaker 1: to a very special guest joining us is Tisha Leeway,
- 2:04Speaker 1: a very dear friend of Suzanne Morphew. Tisha is wonderful
- 2:11Speaker 1: to see you. I wondered if we would ever speak
- 2:16Speaker 1: on this occasion. Tell me your response, your reaction when
- 2:21Speaker 1: you learned Barry Morphew had finally been indicted a second
- 2:25Speaker 1: time in Suzanne's murder.
- 2:27Speaker 2: I was shocked, Honestly.
- 2:29Speaker 4: I knew I was hoping that the day would come, obviously, but.
- 2:34Speaker 2: I didn't even know.
- 2:35Speaker 4: I was working and my phone was just going crazy,
- 2:39Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, I had to stop
- 2:42Speaker 4: and just look, and I honestly started crying because I
- 2:47Speaker 4: was so shocked and happy, and I mean, I'm glad
- 2:51Speaker 4: this day is finally came.
- 2:53Speaker 1: You stated that you always thought it would happen after
- 2:57Speaker 1: the first and night was thrown out for alleged prosecutorial misconduct.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Many people thought it never would that the case was
- 3:04Speaker 1: so tainted there was no way to get a grand
- 3:07Speaker 1: jury indictment or conviction.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Why did you always believe it would happen?
- 3:12Speaker 4: I just know that, you know, things work in mysterious ways,
- 3:16Speaker 4: and I feel like she deserves the justice, so I
- 3:20Speaker 4: think honestly, after they found her body in a different county,
- 3:26Speaker 4: I felt like we were in good hands, not that
- 3:30Speaker 4: Chafe County, you know, most of them, you know, are
- 3:35Speaker 4: worked with Swatch County anyway, But once the body was found,
- 3:41Speaker 4: obviously that gave us way bigger hopes, and then once
- 3:45Speaker 4: the autopsy came out, that was even bigger.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Titia Leeway, a very dear friend and confidante of Suzanne Morpheus,
- 3:53Speaker 1: what was your reaction when you realize when you first
- 3:57Speaker 1: realized that Suzanne was missing and couldn't be found.
- 4:03Speaker 2: What did you think?
- 4:05Speaker 5: I just kind of just followed the news a little bit,
- 4:09Speaker 5: but you know, it was a little strange just the
- 4:12Speaker 5: way she went missing, so obviously I kind of thought
- 4:17Speaker 5: something else happened.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Guys, we are joined by an all star panel and
- 4:21Speaker 1: we are trying to make sense of what we are learning.
- 4:24Speaker 6: Now.
- 4:26Speaker 2: I want you to take a Listen to what happened
- 4:29Speaker 2: around the time.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Suzanne seemingly vanished into thin air, all alone in her
- 4:36Speaker 1: home on Mother's Day, and according to her husband, Barry Morphew,
- 4:44Speaker 1: she decided to go on a Mother's day by cride.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Listen.
- 4:48Speaker 6: After a missing person's report was called in by a neighbor,
- 4:51Speaker 6: investigators responded to the Morphew's residence. The house was locked,
- 4:55Speaker 6: Suzanne's vehicle was in the garage with no signs of
- 4:57Speaker 6: forest entry. Suzanne and her bicycle, we're missing. The bike
- 5:01Speaker 6: was found less than a mile from her home down
- 5:03Speaker 6: a hillside off a dirt road.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Joining me investigative reporter with crime stories Dave mac Dave mac.
- 5:13Speaker 1: We all flew out to the location and spent days
- 5:20Speaker 1: looking for evidence. Reviewing the location where her bike was found.
- 5:26Speaker 1: And I recall distinctly at the time that Barry Morphew
- 5:32Speaker 1: said his wife must have been eaten by wild animals.
- 5:38Speaker 1: I guess what. As she went by on the bike,
- 5:41Speaker 1: a wild animal just jump and attacked her. Mid Bi
- 5:46Speaker 1: cried and then dragged her body away. Her bike helmet
- 5:51Speaker 1: was found about a mile away. I guess the wild
- 5:55Speaker 1: predator dragged her her helmet a mile away, But then
- 6:01Speaker 1: that theory was scattered when her body was found in
- 6:06Speaker 1: another county. That's a long way for a mountain lion
- 6:11Speaker 1: to drag a dead body, isn't it.
- 6:15Speaker 6: Well, you know, Nancy, it's a long way for any
- 6:18Speaker 6: animal to carry a body. But to actually his theory
- 6:23Speaker 6: of the bobcat, he threw that out there right or
- 6:26Speaker 6: a mountain lion, he threw that out there right away.
- 6:29Speaker 6: And anybody in the area that knew anything about mountain
- 6:31Speaker 6: lions were like, no, that, they don't work like that.
- 6:34Speaker 6: There might be one out here somewhere, but they're not
- 6:36Speaker 6: going to do that. And when they found her remains, fancy,
- 6:40Speaker 6: if you remember, the remains that they found were bleached
- 6:44Speaker 6: and almost complete. You know, they found almost a complete
- 6:48Speaker 6: set of bones of her, and that's not common when
- 6:52Speaker 6: you find a body out in an area like where
- 6:55Speaker 6: she was found, it's very uncommon. They're usually parts of
- 6:59Speaker 6: the body because if wild animals get it, they carry
- 7:01Speaker 6: it away parts of it and they're all scattered. But
- 7:04Speaker 6: that didn't happen here.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Now I'm looking back over what happened that morning, that
- 7:08Speaker 1: Mother's Day morning to doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renown
- 7:12Speaker 1: psychoanalyst out of the LA jurisdiction.
- 7:15Speaker 2: She's the author of deal Breaker.
- 7:18Speaker 1: You can see her now on Peacock and you can
- 7:21Speaker 1: find her online at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Her daughters were camping on Mother's Day and they called
- 7:31Speaker 1: her relentlessly to talk to their mom on Mother's Day.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Interesting that prior to that weekend, Bary Moore for you,
- 7:42Speaker 1: according to reports, did not have a construction job planned.
- 7:48Speaker 1: But suddenly that morning, around I guess four o'clock in
- 7:52Speaker 1: the morning or so, he put together a crew for
- 7:57Speaker 1: an out of town job. It took off on Mother's
- 8:01Speaker 1: Day morning, leaving, according to him, his wife alone on
- 8:07Speaker 1: Mother's Day still asleep in bed.
- 8:10Speaker 7: Thoughts, Nancy, that's so suspicious. Who was pulled together a
- 8:14Speaker 7: crew at the last minute? And if he did, is
- 8:18Speaker 7: there a homeowner or a business owner who requested for
- 8:23Speaker 7: him to come in at the last minute. Perhaps they
- 8:25Speaker 7: had complaints about the plumbing or the tile or something
- 8:28Speaker 7: like that. I mean, I think we'd really want to
- 8:30Speaker 7: show that there was a reason that he would pull
- 8:32Speaker 7: together that crew. Secondarily, Nancy, mother's as you know, because
- 8:36Speaker 7: you have beautiful Lucy. They want to be in contact
- 8:40Speaker 7: with their children on Mother's Day. The fact that she
- 8:44Speaker 7: would not pick up the phone is very odd. I mean,
- 8:47Speaker 7: this was her reason for being in life, was to
- 8:50Speaker 7: be in contact with her children and Leslie. You know,
- 8:53Speaker 7: the idea that her bones were found so far away, bleached, preserved,
- 8:59Speaker 7: not eaten by animals, And the fact is that if
- 9:03Speaker 7: she had died of natural causes out in the out
- 9:06Speaker 7: in the wild, her body would have been scavenged. So
- 9:09Speaker 7: there's just so many things that are missing about this story.
- 9:12Speaker 2: You know, I want to follow up on something that
- 9:14Speaker 2: you just said.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Joining me is doctor Thomas Coin, Chief Medical Examiner, District
- 9:19Speaker 1: to Medical Examiners Office, State of Florida. He is a
- 9:22Speaker 1: forensic pathologist, a toxicologist, and a neuropathologist and you can
- 9:27Speaker 1: find him on x at doctor tm coin. Doctor Coin,
- 9:32Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. What does it mean
- 9:35Speaker 1: that there was no hair attached to her body?
- 9:39Speaker 8: Well, if she did die, or if her body was
- 9:42Speaker 8: placed outside and she decomposed outside, there would have.
- 9:47Speaker 6: Been a hair mass.
- 9:49Speaker 9: Not only a hair mass, you.
- 9:50Speaker 8: Would have seen in the soil evidence of decomposition because
- 9:53Speaker 8: all of those body tissues, your body fluids had to
- 9:56Speaker 8: go somewhere as they begin to denature and liquefy, and
- 10:00Speaker 8: so you would have had, in conjunction with the skeleton,
- 10:02Speaker 8: you would have had her hair mass. You would have
- 10:04Speaker 8: also had evidence of decomposition or fluid, especially if she
- 10:08Speaker 8: was wearing clothing. The clothing I'm sure would have been tattered,
- 10:11Speaker 8: would have had evidence of decomposition, fluted or deco or
- 10:14Speaker 8: fluid within those tissues or clothing for that matter.
- 10:17Speaker 2: We learn more about the discovery of her body. Listen.
- 10:21Speaker 6: When Suzanne's body was found, the majority of her bleached
- 10:24Speaker 6: bones were recovered, along with a cancer port and items
- 10:27Speaker 6: of clothing matching bike clothing Suzanne was known to wear.
- 10:30Speaker 6: There was a lack of bug activity, inconsistent with the
- 10:33Speaker 6: remains decomposing where they were found. There was also a
- 10:37Speaker 6: lack of animal activity on the bones and no hair
- 10:39Speaker 6: mass found. These features would have been expected where the
- 10:43Speaker 6: body was found if it had been the original gravesite
- 10:46Speaker 6: where decomposition occurred.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Doctor Colin, when you refer to a hair mass, you're
- 10:50Speaker 1: referring to the hair that would have been on her head.
- 10:53Speaker 8: It's correct, Yeah, it would have floffed off of her hand.
- 10:55Speaker 1: And understand again what that means that no hair mass
- 10:58Speaker 1: is found.
- 10:59Speaker 2: What does that main sure?
- 11:01Speaker 8: Well, if her body was left outside, she would have
- 11:04Speaker 8: decomposed outside, and that's a meal for bugs, for animals.
- 11:09Speaker 8: You would have had scavenging activity. Animals would have come in,
- 11:12Speaker 8: uh to sort of gain access to the tissue. They
- 11:15Speaker 8: would have walked away with certain body parts. But the
- 11:18Speaker 8: hair on the heads, as the tissue begins to decompose,
- 11:21Speaker 8: it sloths off of the skull, leaving that matted hair behind.
- 11:26Speaker 8: Very often that hair is full of waxy tissue, bugs, magus,
- 11:32Speaker 8: other types of tepey that may be president so it
- 11:34Speaker 8: forms almost like a matted massive hair and that would
- 11:37Speaker 8: have been present there with the skeleton.
- 11:39Speaker 2: So that means that's not where she decomposed originally. Is
- 11:42Speaker 2: that what you just said means absolutely?
- 11:45Speaker 8: And also when you have bleached bleached skeleton like that,
- 11:47Speaker 8: a body that's outside weathers, so that body would those
- 11:51Speaker 8: bones would not be bleached. That tells me that more
- 11:54Speaker 8: than likely the body was kept somewhere else and then
- 11:57Speaker 8: placed there after it had become a skeleton.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Dave Mac, could you tell me about the area where
- 12:04Speaker 1: her remains were found? Her skeletal remains, Dave.
- 12:07Speaker 6: Mac in a really remote area about forty miles south
- 12:13Speaker 6: of where her home was, down off of the Highway
- 12:17Speaker 6: seventeen down a dirt road off into a remote area
- 12:23Speaker 6: that is actually referred to as the boneyard. To a degree,
- 12:28Speaker 6: it's such a remote area that it wasn't someplace you
- 12:32Speaker 6: would just arbitrarily think of getting rid of a body.
- 12:37Speaker 6: It's something that was so remote and planned that it
- 12:41Speaker 6: would have had to have been thought out in advance
- 12:43Speaker 6: to figure out exactly where to place the remains so
- 12:46Speaker 6: that they would be out where you wouldn't just trip
- 12:49Speaker 6: over them on accident.
- 12:51Speaker 1: In the last hours, Barry Morphew, now accused formally in
- 12:54Speaker 1: the murder of his wife Suzanne in court smiling, smiling
- 12:59Speaker 1: why Joining me is a renowned criminal defense attorney and
- 13:04Speaker 1: you can find him at his website DW Smith Legal
- 13:08Speaker 1: dot com.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Joining us is Derek Smith. Wow, that must have been
- 13:13Speaker 2: a really smart mountain lion to drag her body after.
- 13:18Speaker 1: It soared through the air and attacked her and yanked
- 13:23Speaker 1: her off of her bike and then dragged her to
- 13:26Speaker 1: the next county to a known disposal site call the boneyard.
- 13:33Speaker 2: That's some mountain lion. Derek Yeah, he seems.
- 13:36Speaker 10: To have a good lay of the land too. I
- 13:38Speaker 10: guess if this boneyard is something.
- 13:40Speaker 11: Of an area that has been used for this type
- 13:43Speaker 11: of purpose before, how did he get its name? You know,
- 13:46Speaker 11: it does seem a little a little questioning to me
- 13:49Speaker 11: when you're talking about the body is decomposed and it
- 13:51Speaker 11: has an outside agent on it, such as bleach or
- 13:55Speaker 11: something that it doesn't seem like that's going to come
- 13:56Speaker 11: from the animal kingdom.
- 13:58Speaker 10: It seems like some kind of being of higher intelligen
- 14:00Speaker 10: was involved here.
- 14:01Speaker 11: It doesn't necessarily mean it was somebody close to her, though,
- 14:05Speaker 11: it still could be a random act of violence in
- 14:08Speaker 11: a way of getting rid of the evidence in a
- 14:10Speaker 11: certain sensuation.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Like this, Derek, do you know how remote their home was?
- 14:17Speaker 2: Who's going to just drive by and see her? I
- 14:19Speaker 2: mean I practically had to hike to get to it
- 14:21Speaker 2: when I went out there looking.
- 14:23Speaker 1: It's very remote, which in my mind reduces the likelihood
- 14:29Speaker 1: of stranger on stranger.
- 14:31Speaker 11: Well, yeah, of course, you definitely have a smaller population
- 14:34Speaker 11: to go I guess and target if you're somebody looking
- 14:36Speaker 11: to do this, but that also could be part of it.
- 14:38Speaker 11: You want to go target somebody in a remote area
- 14:41Speaker 11: because you have some kind of fascination for them. I've
- 14:43Speaker 11: seen the pictures of this woman. She seemed she looked attractive.
- 14:47Speaker 11: It could have been appealing to somebody just passing by
- 14:49Speaker 11: or someone that shouldn't have been there in the first
- 14:50Speaker 11: lay way, Well.
- 14:51Speaker 2: It could have been what wait, what did you just say?
- 14:53Speaker 2: She's attractive? So it could have been what it could.
- 14:55Speaker 11: Have been just someone passing by and taking a look
- 14:57Speaker 11: at her and saying, you know what, I'm going to
- 14:58Speaker 11: take advantage of her being in a remote situation and
- 15:00Speaker 11: nobody being around, and I'm going to go end up doctor.
- 15:02Speaker 1: As oppose to her being really really ugly, I don't what,
- 15:08Speaker 1: because she's pretty, uh, stranger someone said, Wow, she's a looker,
- 15:14Speaker 1: let me kill her it.
- 15:15Speaker 11: As to the likelihood that it could be somebody else dancing,
- 15:17Speaker 11: that's that's kind of what I'm trying to say here.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Okay, you know you're getting in trouble right now. You
- 15:20Speaker 1: got a tiger by the tail. You can't hold on
- 15:22Speaker 1: and you can't let go. So you're saying because she's attractive,
- 15:26Speaker 1: that ups the ante and the likelihood that it was
- 15:29Speaker 1: a stranger on stranger attack.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Somebody drives by and goes, wow, she's pretty Let me
- 15:34Speaker 2: kill her. Okay, you know what, Let's see what Derek
- 15:38Speaker 2: Smith has to say about this.
- 15:41Speaker 6: Investigators learned BAM was sold by only one company in
- 15:44Speaker 6: the United States and could only be obtained by prescription
- 15:47Speaker 6: from a veterinarian, Very Moore. Few filled several prescriptions for BAM. Ultimately,
- 15:52Speaker 6: the prescription record show that when Suzanne Morphew disappeared, only
- 15:57Speaker 6: one private citizen living in the entire state had access
- 16:00Speaker 6: to BAM, Barry Morphew.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Okay, did you hear that, Derek?
- 16:06Speaker 1: Only one person and the whole state had beut orphenol BAM,
- 16:13Speaker 1: b brother, a alpha M mother beutorphenol, and two others
- 16:20Speaker 1: one person in the whole state at her remains were
- 16:24Speaker 1: saturated with it. And lo and behold, Barry Morphew is
- 16:30Speaker 1: the only person in the state.
- 16:35Speaker 5: That hasn't.
- 16:36Speaker 11: So is this something that can't be acquired by anybody
- 16:38Speaker 11: else out of the state. I mean, think you'd be
- 16:40Speaker 11: foolish enough to use something that he knows? Is this
- 16:42Speaker 11: strictly regulated? You know, there's plenty of other states, other
- 16:47Speaker 11: people that can have access to these things, and it
- 16:48Speaker 11: seems like it's a pretty good agent to incapacitate a victim,
- 16:54Speaker 11: So it seemed like you'd be a pretty good cocktail
- 16:56Speaker 11: to use if you're going to target somebody.
- 16:58Speaker 2: You know what, you really are amazing how you just
- 17:02Speaker 2: you get damning evidence.
- 17:05Speaker 1: You're like runpel stillsk and I don't know if you're
- 17:06Speaker 1: familiar with that story. He gets straw, moldy, damn yucky
- 17:11Speaker 1: straw that's been stored in a barn, gotten wet, and
- 17:14Speaker 1: he spins it into gold. That's amazing what you just
- 17:17Speaker 1: did there. But let's go to a veteran homicide detective
- 17:22Speaker 1: joining us. Not a hired gun, no offense, Derek, but
- 17:26Speaker 1: you are your higher gun. If you get paid enough money,
- 17:29Speaker 1: you'll defend anything. And let me be clear, Derek Smith
- 17:33Speaker 1: has one a lot of cases.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Doing what he just did right in front of you.
- 17:38Speaker 2: I threw a whole.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Bell of wet, smelly hay at him and he spun
- 17:43Speaker 1: it into gold. Joining me right now is Chris mcdonna.
- 17:46Speaker 1: He is the director at the Cold Case Foundation, former
- 17:49Speaker 1: homicide detective, around three hundred death investigations under his belt,
- 17:55Speaker 1: and he's the star of the interview Room on YouTube.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Chris mcdona, try to wipe everything that Derek.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Smith just said out of your mind. Don't be brainwashed.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Barrymorphy is the only person in the state that has
- 18:12Speaker 1: a prescription which is really hard to get for bam
- 18:15Speaker 1: main ingredient betworphen all, he's the only one. So if
- 18:20Speaker 1: we follow Derek Smith, it sounded like a good argument
- 18:23Speaker 1: to start with that it was stranger and stranger, and
- 18:25Speaker 1: then he threw in, well, it's because she's attractive that
- 18:29Speaker 1: this stranger happens to be driving through and it's a
- 18:35Speaker 1: very small and remote area, very small and remote happens
- 18:41Speaker 1: to be there.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Why I don't know, maybe a traveling salesperson. Why don't
- 18:44Speaker 2: we throw that in?
- 18:45Speaker 1: They see Susanne Morphew attack her and kill her and
- 18:51Speaker 1: drag her to a place only known to locals as
- 18:54Speaker 1: the boneyard. And then, amazingly, this unknown assailant has beut
- 19:01Speaker 1: orphanal b m A, which is only prescribed by Vince
- 19:06Speaker 1: and the only other person in the whole state that
- 19:08Speaker 1: has it as her husband, Barry Moore.
- 19:10Speaker 2: For you quite the co inkyding, right, yeah, absolutely, I
- 19:14Speaker 2: mean what a coincidence?
- 19:16Speaker 9: Right, And let's add into this mix the fact that
- 19:22Speaker 9: he used to use.
- 19:23Speaker 12: BAM in Indiana when he would hunt deer, deer and animals,
- 19:29Speaker 12: and he would use that to incapacitate them to take
- 19:33Speaker 12: their antlers because he knew it wouldn't kill them. But however,
- 19:38Speaker 12: in this situation, Suzanne is found in a gravesite, possibly move.
- 19:46Speaker 9: The indictment is given us indication that she was moved.
- 19:50Speaker 12: So now going back to that argument of a stranger, well,
- 19:54Speaker 12: the guy must have picked her up, you know, did
- 19:56Speaker 12: whatever he needed to do, bury her somewhere, come back,
- 20:00Speaker 12: dig her back up, and move her back down to
- 20:03Speaker 12: the location she was ultimately dunked.
- 20:05Speaker 9: It not happening.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
- 20:18Speaker 1: You know, what did you make of it, Chris McDonough,
- 20:21Speaker 1: Because I was just it was like a kick in
- 20:25Speaker 1: the stomach. I was stunned when the first indictment was
- 20:30Speaker 1: thrown out based on alleged prosecutorial misconduct. And I'm going
- 20:35Speaker 1: to go to Dave Mack in a moment for him
- 20:37Speaker 1: to explain why that first indictment was thrown out. And
- 20:42Speaker 1: Barry Morphew, as I recall, and I'm going to go
- 20:44Speaker 1: to Dave on this too, sued people that suggested that
- 20:49Speaker 1: he was guilty after that indictment got thrown out. When
- 20:55Speaker 1: that indictment was thrown out, many people believe Chris McDonough
- 21:00Speaker 1: the case would never be revived again.
- 21:03Speaker 2: That was the death knell for the case.
- 21:07Speaker 1: But somehow through meticulous investigation, and I am talking about meticulous.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Can you imagine how many man.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Hours it took to determine who, if anyone in the
- 21:20Speaker 1: entire state had a prescription for bam be trophan.
- 21:25Speaker 2: All that must have taken hundreds and hundreds.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Of man hours to figure that out, and to go
- 21:32Speaker 1: all the way back to his home state of Indiana
- 21:36Speaker 1: to find out that he had a prescription for it
- 21:37Speaker 1: there through a vet to shoot deer and get their antlers.
- 21:42Speaker 2: I guess is why he says he had it. I mean,
- 21:46Speaker 2: that's very damning evidence. Christmas Dinnah totally a great nancy.
- 21:50Speaker 12: And in fact, you know, there's a saying in homicide,
- 21:54Speaker 12: our day begins when your day ends.
- 21:56Speaker 9: And they never gave up.
- 21:58Speaker 12: And even though they're was a curveball thrown with the
- 22:02Speaker 12: situation there with the District Attorney's office, they were pressing forward.
- 22:07Speaker 12: And when the body was found, all this other evidence
- 22:10Speaker 12: now presented itself and they could take a different direction.
- 22:13Speaker 1: I want you to hear about how Suzanne's remains were
- 22:18Speaker 1: saturated with BAM.
- 22:21Speaker 6: Listen the El Paso County Corners. Testing found Suzanne's bone
- 22:24Speaker 6: marrow contained all three of the individual chemicals that comprise BAM.
- 22:29Speaker 6: BAM did not contaminate the body after death. Suzanne's body
- 22:33Speaker 6: had begun to metabolize the drug before she died. The
- 22:36Speaker 6: coroner's ruling homicide by unspecified means in the setting of
- 22:40Speaker 6: beutrophenol a, zapparone and metatomidine intoxication.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Bob Sale Barry Moorephew back in court on new formal
- 22:49Speaker 1: charges he murdered his wife Suzanne. Does anybody remember the
- 22:53Speaker 1: name Jody Arius. I'm afraid I actually say that loud.
- 22:58Speaker 1: It might conjure her up to doctor Bethany Marshall, remember,
- 23:02Speaker 1: Jody Arius murdered her lover, Travis Alexander after an all
- 23:06Speaker 1: day sex marathon.
- 23:07Speaker 2: She murdered him when after all the sex and the
- 23:11Speaker 2: photos of the sex, and the blaw.
- 23:13Speaker 1: And the blaw, he went, yeah, I'm not canceling that
- 23:17Speaker 1: date where I'm taking the other woman, my date to
- 23:20Speaker 1: ken kuon She wanted him.
- 23:21Speaker 2: To call off that date.
- 23:22Speaker 1: They were broken up, by the way, so we asked
- 23:24Speaker 1: another lady to go on this trip. And Arius drives
- 23:29Speaker 1: across the state with gas cans full of gas in
- 23:32Speaker 1: her car so she doesn't have to stop and leave
- 23:34Speaker 1: a trail at a gas station, gets there, has a
- 23:37Speaker 1: sex marathon, and it didn't change his mind, so she
- 23:41Speaker 1: killed him.
- 23:42Speaker 2: I think it was twenty eight or nine stab wounds.
- 23:46Speaker 1: There was an argument about that because some of the
- 23:48Speaker 1: stab wounds were overlapping in his shower, left him to decompose,
- 23:52Speaker 1: and then for good measure, shot him in the head
- 23:55Speaker 1: over that. But then she went so far as to
- 23:59Speaker 1: leeve her digital.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Camera in the home, right. I think she washed it
- 24:05Speaker 2: in the washer.
- 24:07Speaker 1: And it was found in the washer, her digital camera
- 24:12Speaker 1: where she was trying to get rid of evidence.
- 24:13Speaker 2: And oh, there you go.
- 24:15Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite photos ever in life. There's
- 24:19Speaker 1: the digitcam. We had to go back and dig around.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, is that the picture off her foot.
- 24:27Speaker 1: There's actually a picture off her foot, her pants at
- 24:31Speaker 1: the murder scene. She takes an unintentional selfie at the
- 24:36Speaker 1: murder scene, but the digitcam is found in the washer.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Do you remember that Dr Bethany.
- 24:42Speaker 2: Now see I remember that story so clearly.
- 24:45Speaker 7: Driving all the way to visit the victim, didn't she
- 24:50Speaker 7: use gas cans instead of pumping gas at a gas station.
- 24:54Speaker 7: At one point she was stalking him, and she like
- 24:57Speaker 7: hid behind a Christmas tree. What I think is so
- 25:01Speaker 7: interesting in these two cases is that rejection, or the
- 25:05Speaker 7: perception of rejection, is often at the core of domestic homicide. Now,
- 25:10Speaker 7: in the case of Jody Arius, she did not she
- 25:14Speaker 7: did not prepare a dump site. Right the dump site
- 25:18Speaker 7: was the shower and she thought nobody would ever figure
- 25:20Speaker 7: it out. Now, in this case with Susanne Warfew, somebody
- 25:24Speaker 7: prepared a dump site. They took her body, bleached her bones.
- 25:29Speaker 7: There's a bam, you know in the bone marrow, meaning
- 25:33Speaker 7: that it was metabolized before her death, and the later
- 25:37Speaker 7: on her body is moved to the bone yards. So
- 25:41Speaker 7: to me, that so much speaks. Although with Jody Arias
- 25:45Speaker 7: I also think it was premeditated, but especially in this case,
- 25:49Speaker 7: somebody premeditated this. I mean, where do you put a
- 25:54Speaker 7: body for months before you secrete it somewhere else? Freezer,
- 26:01Speaker 7: I don't know, in your backyard. This body was somewhere
- 26:05Speaker 7: being preserved before it was dumped again. It tells me
- 26:09Speaker 7: just how much time and attention and detail went into
- 26:13Speaker 7: the commission of the crime.
- 26:15Speaker 1: You know, doctor Bethany, I did not want to interrupt
- 26:17Speaker 1: you because I learned so much every time you go
- 26:20Speaker 1: on a roll.
- 26:21Speaker 2: But I want you to hear this. This is where
- 26:23Speaker 2: I was going. Sadly, I meandered.
- 26:26Speaker 1: But remember we were talking about Jody Arius leaving the
- 26:29Speaker 1: digital camera with incriminating photos on the digital camera, and
- 26:33Speaker 1: they had to I guess they put it in a
- 26:34Speaker 1: bag of rice because somehow they saved what was on
- 26:37Speaker 1: the digital Okay, I hope you're sitting down.
- 26:40Speaker 2: You may need to lay down for this listen.
- 26:42Speaker 6: Officers find a locked gun safe in the Morpheus garage.
- 26:45Speaker 6: Inside that gun safe, they find a Dart rifle or
- 26:48Speaker 6: tranquilizer rifle and packages of new Dart brand tranquilizer darts.
- 26:53Speaker 6: The packages include cap type of derming needles designed to
- 26:56Speaker 6: load the darts. Law enforcement also finds one of these
- 26:59Speaker 6: needles caps in the dryer among men's shorts. No tranquilizer
- 27:04Speaker 6: formula was found. It was in his dryer, in his underwear.
- 27:09Speaker 6: How appropro in his underwear in the dryer. It's just
- 27:16Speaker 6: like Jody Arius is Jody arias. I mean, he leaves
- 27:22Speaker 6: the tranquilizer needle cap in the dryer and they can't.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Find the liquid because it's obviously and Susanne Morphus body
- 27:36Speaker 1: is gone. It's gone, I mean in the dryer.
- 27:39Speaker 2: What an idiot. I'm so happy.
- 27:41Speaker 7: Okay, So this is randomble with Jody Arius and Barry
- 27:45Speaker 7: more Fuse. I woul could have guessed that this was
- 27:47Speaker 7: the first time they ever stripped the sheets and put
- 27:50Speaker 7: them in the washing machine because they you know how
- 27:53Speaker 7: you like check the pockets to make sure there's no Kleenex,
- 27:56Speaker 7: or you make sure that their socks are not in
- 27:58Speaker 7: the sheets. Stuff the sheets in camera, dark gun whatever,
- 28:04Speaker 7: dark gun cap and all, which I think is hilarious.
- 28:06Speaker 7: It says something about well, homicit's not hilarious, but it
- 28:09Speaker 7: does say something about the domestic routine they were in
- 28:13Speaker 7: with their partners, where the partners maybe did everything and
- 28:16Speaker 7: at this point they were just very hasty and didn't
- 28:19Speaker 7: think about what they were doing.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Now, Jackie here in the studio wants me to point out,
- 28:22Speaker 1: according to her, the needle cap was found in the
- 28:27Speaker 1: men's men's shorts not underwear. Okay, how that makes a
- 28:32Speaker 1: legal difference, I don't know, but they're so noted. So
- 28:35Speaker 1: you know, now to Chris McDonough, we have him, not
- 28:40Speaker 1: just the only person in the whole state according to
- 28:44Speaker 1: the records that has bam beutrphenal, but the needle cap
- 28:51Speaker 1: is in his shorts, in his dryer at the time
- 28:57Speaker 1: the home is searched. When she goes, miss I mean,
- 29:01Speaker 1: I want to scream idiot. Okay, I will's idiot, But
- 29:07Speaker 1: I mean the evidence is damning. Just yes, what do
- 29:11Speaker 1: you make of it? And you know another thing I
- 29:13Speaker 1: haven't even gotten into this yet is the activity of
- 29:17Speaker 1: the phone. I mean, it's Coburger all over again, your
- 29:21Speaker 1: specialty Coburger who turns his phone off as he, according
- 29:27Speaker 1: to the state, leaves the murder scene and travels home
- 29:32Speaker 1: and then turns it back on. Here Barry Morphew did
- 29:36Speaker 1: something very similar. And let me just state he is innocent.
- 29:40Speaker 1: He is innocent until he has proven guilty in a
- 29:44Speaker 1: court of law. But I mean, do people never learn.
- 29:48Speaker 1: I hate to give criminals any tests, but leave your.
- 29:50Speaker 2: Phone at home just this one time?
- 29:52Speaker 9: Yeah you know, yeah, I mean it's job security unfortunately.
- 29:57Speaker 9: But let's take this cap for moment.
- 30:01Speaker 12: If he's the only guy in the state of Colorado
- 30:05Speaker 12: that has access to this chemical, that cap is going
- 30:08Speaker 12: to be a high wall that the.
- 30:10Speaker 9: Defense is going to have to jump over. And then
- 30:13Speaker 9: let's take the fact that she has a cancer report
- 30:16Speaker 9: on her body.
- 30:18Speaker 12: Imagine this for a moment, Nancy, if he injected her,
- 30:23Speaker 12: he shoots her with a dart, and now he has
- 30:25Speaker 12: access to even more of this chemical. And I'll let
- 30:28Speaker 12: doctor Kine talk about that a little bit deeper.
- 30:31Speaker 9: The fact that they found it so.
- 30:34Speaker 12: Ingrained into her bone marrow, did he inject it and
- 30:39Speaker 12: froze her in time? That's going to be a question.
- 30:44Speaker 12: I think a lot of people are going to be asking.
- 30:46Speaker 9: And if in fact he.
- 30:47Speaker 12: Did that, Remember he tells the authorities one of his
- 30:51Speaker 12: first statements is, well, we made love all night, really in.
- 30:55Speaker 2: The last hours.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Alleged killer Barry Morphew in Smiling for the Crowd Crime
- 31:09Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Okay, Dave matt let me ask
- 31:16Speaker 1: you a couple of things. Number One, why was the
- 31:19Speaker 1: States case thrown out on alleged prosecutorial misconduct? I want
- 31:24Speaker 1: to hear that and then I want to talk to
- 31:27Speaker 1: you about what the cell phone activity and movements reveal.
- 31:33Speaker 1: But first the alleged prosecutorial misconduct.
- 31:37Speaker 2: What was it all right?
- 31:38Speaker 6: Well, Nancy, One week before the initial first green murder
- 31:44Speaker 6: in Suzanne's death was said to hit court, they dropped
- 31:50Speaker 6: the charges without prejudice so it can be brought again later.
- 31:53Speaker 6: And the reason for that was they believed they had
- 31:57Speaker 6: zeroed in on where her remains would be, but due
- 32:01Speaker 6: to weather conditions at that time, they could not get
- 32:04Speaker 6: to the area where they believed they would find her body.
- 32:08Speaker 6: So they rather than moving forward with a no body trial,
- 32:15Speaker 6: they felt it wiser to move forward to wait until
- 32:18Speaker 6: they could actually find the remains. That coupled with the
- 32:22Speaker 6: fact that the original prosecutor was a woman named Linda Stanley. Now,
- 32:27Speaker 6: she was not removed from the case because specifically of
- 32:31Speaker 6: the very more Few investigation, but there were plenty of
- 32:37Speaker 6: problems with Linda Stanley that led to her being taken
- 32:41Speaker 6: off the case and later disbarred for a series of
- 32:45Speaker 6: ethical violations and misconduct related to her handling of the
- 32:50Speaker 6: more Few case, among others. So there was a number.
- 32:54Speaker 6: If you want me to go into him, there was
- 32:56Speaker 6: an adequate supervision of the case with those investigator. They
- 33:01Speaker 6: were saying that Linda Stanley issued extra judicial statements that
- 33:05Speaker 6: she made publicly multiple times that were inappropriate, made to
- 33:10Speaker 6: the media about the murder case and potentially prejudicing future jurors.
- 33:16Speaker 6: She claimed that she launched a baseless investigation into the
- 33:22Speaker 6: district judge presiding over the case without any credible evidence whatsoever,
- 33:28Speaker 6: and her office then allegedly caused numerous discovery violations as well.
- 33:34Speaker 6: Double that with abusive power.
- 33:37Speaker 1: Hold on, Dave Matt You can't just throw out discovery violations.
- 33:42Speaker 1: I asked you specifically, what was the alleged prosecutorial misconduct? Now,
- 33:46Speaker 1: from what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, is
- 33:49Speaker 1: that she, Linda Stanley, the former district attorney, was sanctioned
- 33:55Speaker 1: from missing deadlines.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Let me get Derek Smith in on this.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Derek Smith a veteran defense attorney, Okay, the one I
- 34:02Speaker 1: accused of being ropel steel skin a little a few
- 34:04Speaker 1: moments ago. I remember many many, many nights more than
- 34:08Speaker 1: I can count, at the District Attorney's office after midnight
- 34:12Speaker 1: on Friday nights because the trial was going to start
- 34:16Speaker 1: ten days later on a Monday, right counting out, and
- 34:21Speaker 1: that discovery had to be postmarked ten days before trial.
- 34:26Speaker 2: I would normally send it out far ahead of that,
- 34:28Speaker 2: but if I had.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Other things I had discovered, I'd be at the Xerox machine, which,
- 34:33Speaker 1: of course, around ten thirty would break down and I'd
- 34:36Speaker 1: be fighting with this massive Xerox machine trying to copy
- 34:40Speaker 1: the discovery and raise to the Atlanta Airport where I
- 34:44Speaker 1: could still get something timestamped before midnight.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Good times.
- 34:50Speaker 1: The point is you have to give the other side
- 34:54Speaker 1: their discovery at a certain deadline, and if you don't,
- 34:58Speaker 1: Derek Smith, you can't bring that evidence into trial, period.
- 35:03Speaker 11: Absolutely not. I mean it's the part of a trial
- 35:06Speaker 11: that it gets really complex, especially when new evidence is
- 35:09Speaker 11: discovered during the trial and things of that nature during
- 35:12Speaker 11: the proceedings are going on. You have to give the
- 35:15Speaker 11: other side, especially if there's exculpatory evidence. I mean there's
- 35:18Speaker 11: local rules that codify all that as well a chance
- 35:21Speaker 11: to review what you just found out.
- 35:24Speaker 10: You have to be open with discovery. That's just number one.
- 35:27Speaker 10: In these cases.
- 35:28Speaker 11: You cannot hide the ball and show up at trial
- 35:30Speaker 11: and say, hey, look here's some evidence I'm going to
- 35:32Speaker 11: present the judge won't allow it, and you can also
- 35:34Speaker 11: risk a mistrial.
- 35:35Speaker 10: Nobody wants a mistrial.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not worth it.
- 35:37Speaker 1: You got to follow the rules because if you don't,
- 35:40Speaker 1: a it's going to get found out. Okay, it's an
- 35:44Speaker 1: ethical violation.
- 35:45Speaker 2: Who wants that.
- 35:46Speaker 1: I don't want an ethical violation. And then when it's
- 35:50Speaker 1: found out, your case gets reversed. And the problem with
- 35:53Speaker 1: a case getting reversed because of an ethical violation or
- 35:57Speaker 1: misconduct is it can very well be re versed with prejudice,
- 36:02Speaker 1: which means you can't try it again. That was your
- 36:05Speaker 1: one shot. I mean people get reversals all the time.
- 36:09Speaker 1: The judge can have a slip of the tie and
- 36:11Speaker 1: giving a jury instruction. There can be a million things
- 36:15Speaker 1: that on appeal, the appellate courtse says, huh uh, and
- 36:19Speaker 1: it's reversed and you have to retry it. But if
- 36:21Speaker 1: it's reversed with prejudice, the person is acquitted, and you
- 36:27Speaker 1: don't want that now. Dave mac also, you know, I
- 36:31Speaker 1: just heard Derek Smith, and he's right. If there's any
- 36:34Speaker 1: Brady material. Bradyv. Maryland is the United States Court case
- 36:38Speaker 1: went to the Supremes when the State did not hand
- 36:40Speaker 1: over some let me just say exculpatory didn't I don't
- 36:46Speaker 1: think exonerated the defendant, but it was exculpatory. It tended
- 36:50Speaker 1: to suggest the defendant was not guilty, and they didn't
- 36:53Speaker 1: hand it over. Was there a Brady violation in this
- 36:57Speaker 1: case or not, Dave Mac? Was there evidence about an
- 37:01Speaker 1: unknown male's DNA in Suzanne's suv?
- 37:08Speaker 6: DNA from an unknown male found in Suzanne Morphy's a SUV.
- 37:11Speaker 6: That was the discovery violations, the biggest one.
- 37:14Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a big one. And you know, Derek Smith,
- 37:18Speaker 2: what finally.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Happened was the state, as Dave Mac just accurately reported,
- 37:24Speaker 1: withdrew the case.
- 37:27Speaker 2: And they did that in the hopes of not getting
- 37:30Speaker 2: thrown out of court with prejudice.
- 37:32Speaker 1: And by withdrawing that case on their own, they had
- 37:36Speaker 1: the opportunity to rebring it because there is no statute
- 37:40Speaker 1: of limitations on murder.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Okay, do you agree with at least that much, Derek absolutely?
- 37:47Speaker 1: Does anybody remember the name Alex Murdock Mayhee rotten Hill,
- 37:52Speaker 1: convicted in the double murders of his wife Maggie and
- 37:55Speaker 1: son Paul. Well, guess what bit him in the rear
- 37:58Speaker 1: end a trial is gas guzzling, massive honking suv because
- 38:04Speaker 1: guess what it had a state of the art nav
- 38:07Speaker 1: system listen.
- 38:09Speaker 6: Analysis of Barry Morphu's electronic devices, including the infotainment system
- 38:13Speaker 6: in his truck and cell phone, showed Morphew returned home
- 38:16Speaker 6: at two forty three PM on Saturday, May ninth, twenty twenty,
- 38:19Speaker 6: and according to the data, his phone or truck never
- 38:22Speaker 6: left the residence again until the next morning, Sunday he
- 38:25Speaker 6: left for Broomfield, Colorado. The data also shows Morpheus phone
- 38:30Speaker 6: turned off for most of this timeframe. It was turned
- 38:33Speaker 6: on for a while in the late evening. Barry Morphew's
- 38:35Speaker 6: cell phone was again turned off at four thirty two
- 38:38Speaker 6: am and wasn't turned on again until five point thirty
- 38:41Speaker 6: seven am, when location information showed him on the road
- 38:44Speaker 6: already in the area of Johnson Village, Colorado.
- 38:47Speaker 1: The suv infotainment system is biding Morphew in the rear end.
- 38:53Speaker 2: Explain Dave Matt what does this mean?
- 38:55Speaker 1: Because in the Murdock case, what it meant was you
- 39:00Speaker 1: could tell exactly when Alex MURDERA left the scene of
- 39:03Speaker 1: the double murder. You could tell when he let his
- 39:05Speaker 1: window down on the passenger side of the car to
- 39:08Speaker 1: throw out Maggie's cell phone which was found in that
- 39:10Speaker 1: location on the side of the road when he accelerated,
- 39:13Speaker 1: when he let the window up, when he put the
- 39:15Speaker 1: car in park drive reverse. You name it as he
- 39:18Speaker 1: hit out at his mother's house to create an alibi.
- 39:22Speaker 1: That was a tactic trial with the navigation system evidence
- 39:26Speaker 1: from the SUV who to funk it right, Dave mc
- 39:30Speaker 1: same thing here. What does the now system show about
- 39:33Speaker 1: more few.
- 39:34Speaker 6: It's actually it is showing that during significant periods of
- 39:38Speaker 6: time related to this case on May ninth and May tenth,
- 39:43Speaker 6: that his phone was just arbitrarily turned off at odd
- 39:47Speaker 6: times and inconsistent with previous behavior that they were able
- 39:50Speaker 6: to download. It was turned off like at two forty
- 39:54Speaker 6: seven pm, right after he got home, right after he
- 39:57Speaker 6: sees her in the backyard on her phone. He gets home,
- 40:00Speaker 6: turns his phone off. His phone stays off until ten
- 40:04Speaker 6: fifteen pm that night. It gets turned back off at
- 40:10Speaker 6: four thirty two am, So to be clear, he gets home,
- 40:14Speaker 6: turns his phone off about bedtime ten fifteenth, he turns
- 40:18Speaker 6: it back on, turns it back off when he gets
- 40:21Speaker 6: up at four thirty two am May tenth, and the
- 40:25Speaker 6: phone is turned back on at five thirty seven am
- 40:28Speaker 6: May tent and it shows his location as if he
- 40:32Speaker 6: was driving in the area of Johnson Village, Colorado. So
- 40:36Speaker 6: it's documenting where he is and how he's trying to
- 40:41Speaker 6: disguise himself. He's trying to use some form of masking
- 40:45Speaker 6: to prevent them from knowing where he is and what
- 40:47Speaker 6: he's doing at those given times.
- 40:49Speaker 1: And Mason want to just scream out Brian Coberger because
- 40:52Speaker 1: again on the way home, according to the State from
- 40:56Speaker 1: the murder scene, he turns a cell phone off, only
- 40:59Speaker 1: to turn it back when he gets home to his
- 41:01Speaker 1: Pullman apartment. And you know, Chris mcdunne joining me, director
- 41:04Speaker 1: of the Cold Case Foundation and star of the Interview
- 41:07Speaker 1: Room on YouTube from a homicide detective, that again must
- 41:12Speaker 1: have been an incredibly brilliant mountain lion because it I
- 41:15Speaker 1: guess it ates is Anne Morphy's cell phone, because that's
- 41:18Speaker 1: never been found.
- 41:20Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, and to think that that pattern of
- 41:24Speaker 12: life would also be consistent with that mountain lion as well. Nancy,
- 41:28Speaker 12: you know, more than anybody on this panel, as a
- 41:32Speaker 12: former prosecutor, the one thing that law enforcement wants to
- 41:35Speaker 12: present at all times is everything and in this.
- 41:40Speaker 9: Situation, Barry has a very uphill battle with.
- 41:44Speaker 12: The circumstantial case it's building and that digital footprint could
- 41:49Speaker 12: be potentially very dangerous for him.
- 41:51Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds again and a bombshell development
- 41:59Speaker 1: in the Marry Morpheu prosecution. Morphew charged again indicted in
- 42:06Speaker 1: the murder of wife Suzanne, five years after she goes
- 42:11Speaker 1: missing on a Mother's day by ride all alone.