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The Luxury 'Yummy Mummy' Car · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Sarah's day's
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  Speaker 1: quest to find the best seven seater luxury mum car.
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  Speaker 1: Karina Irby's new PJ line is labelled tacky and expensive
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  Speaker 1: and Tammy Hembrough's troublesome housemate. But first, Molly May has
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  Speaker 1: proven yet again, Amy, why she is just so relatable. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so over the weekend, Molly shared a YouTube where she
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  Speaker 1: took her followers along to the BAFTA Awards. And to
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  Speaker 1: set the scene, there were some pretty big names in attendance,
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  Speaker 1: including Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet. Now, on social media,
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  Speaker 1: it looked like a very glamorous event. But Molly later
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  Speaker 1: revealed in the comfort of her hotel room while sipping
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  Speaker 1: a peppermint tea that she had to make an early
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  Speaker 1: exit halfway through her meal. due to trapped wind. So
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  Speaker 1: to translate that for everyone, Molly needed to fart. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have a listen to what she said.
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  Speaker 2: All right, team, we are back from the BAFTAs and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just pouring peppermint tea because I have to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: I got the world's worst.
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  Speaker 1: This is TMI.
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  Speaker 3: I got the world's worst trapped wind from sitting in
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  Speaker 3: the same position for so many hours The ceremony, I've
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  Speaker 3: got to be honest with you, it put the ong
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  Speaker 3: in long. It was such a lovely evening though, but
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  Speaker 3: also because I got such a sore stomach from sitting
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  Speaker 3: in the same position. We had to leave like halfway
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  Speaker 3: through the meal because I was in so much pain.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I literally cannot sit here. Like, does
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  Speaker 3: anybody else get that? Like when they sit crunched up
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  Speaker 3: for too long or like if you're driving in the
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  Speaker 3: same position for too long, like I get really bad
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  Speaker 3: trapped wind. I don't even, I'm not really even like
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  Speaker 3: a drumpy gal. So I don't even know why the
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  Speaker 3: wind's getting trapped because it's not like the wind would
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  Speaker 3: usually exit.
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  Speaker 1: I felt so seen when I watched this video because
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  Speaker 1: you know when you think this is something that just
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  Speaker 1: happens to you because no one really talks about it.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to so many events where I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: need to go and just be by myself and let
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  Speaker 1: it out. I think people underestimate how much trapped gas
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  Speaker 1: can actually hurt. There's been people who have been rushed
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  Speaker 1: to emergency rooms because they've assumed something more debilitating than that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't exaggerating as well because the BAFTA awards went
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  Speaker 1: for 14 hours.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And so she was having to sit probably.
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  Speaker 1: In quite an uncomfortable dress. Yeah. She said she was
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  Speaker 1: sitting in this really crouched over uncomfortable position. And in
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  Speaker 1: the vlog, she had to get up at the crack
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  Speaker 1: of dawn to drive, I think it was like three
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  Speaker 1: hours to get her hair and makeup done. I know
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  Speaker 1: when I've had big events on like weddings and And
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  Speaker 1: you're getting ready all day and you tend not to
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  Speaker 1: eat very much. And then your stomach just fills with air.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's the big issue. Or you think
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  Speaker 1: I'll be healthy and have something like fruit. Surely that's
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  Speaker 1: not going to have that much of an effect. It does.
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  Speaker 1: Anything with fiber. Well, I don't think it also helped
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  Speaker 1: that the entree at the BAFTAs consisted of caviar. Probably
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  Speaker 1: not the best food if you're feeling gassy. I had
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  Speaker 1: a laugh because I noticed in the background when Molly
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  Speaker 1: was sipping on her peppermint tea that there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of McDonald's takeaways. And I was like, that's quite
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  Speaker 1: a lot of food. And then I realized that she
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  Speaker 1: was actually sharing the room with two other girls. I'm
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  Speaker 1: like the poor thing. She just wants to go and
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  Speaker 1: fart in peace. And she's got two other people there.
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  Speaker 1: I love that this is the second episode that we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about farting. We got some feedback from one of
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  Speaker 1: our OG listeners that he loved our discussion on the
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  Speaker 1: maths fart. And that he's never heard women say the
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  Speaker 1: word fart so many times, which I mean, I had
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  Speaker 1: to listen back. I was like, I suppose we did
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  Speaker 1: say it quite a bit, but hopefully Rodney gets a
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  Speaker 1: laugh out of this one. What is the ultimate mum car?
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  Speaker 7: Well, hopefully we're about to find out because I'm in
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  Speaker 7: the market for a new mum car with seven seats,
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  Speaker 7: bougie boss mum vibes.
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  Speaker 8: So let's get started with car number one.
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  Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has assured her followers she's not out of
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  Speaker 1: touch after launching a social media series reviewing luxury family cars.
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  Speaker 1: The OG wellness warrior claims she's only sharing the series
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  Speaker 1: because her followers asked for it and not for her
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  Speaker 1: own personal gain.
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  Speaker 6: Kate, can you tell us more?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Sarah's day is in the market for a new
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  Speaker 1: luxury seven seater family car. And I emphasize the word
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  Speaker 1: luxury because as you're about to hear later, she used
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  Speaker 1: that word a lot when discussing her desired car. Sarah
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  Speaker 1: is now a mom of three, so she needs a
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  Speaker 1: bigger car. And at the moment, she's driving her dream car,
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  Speaker 1: which is a five seater Range Rover Sport. Before that,
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  Speaker 1: she had a sponsorship deal with Mazda. Now, the fact
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  Speaker 1: Sarah advertised that she's car shopping to her 1.2 million
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  Speaker 1: Instagram followers has led many to speculate that she is
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  Speaker 1: either shopping for a car sponsorship deal or already has one.
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  Speaker 8: On the ropes.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Kate.
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  Speaker 6: She's just showing us commoners how the rich do things.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I don't think with a three-month-old baby she's doing
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  Speaker 1: anything for free. I'm very sceptical that this isn't some
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  Speaker 1: sort of paid partnership or sponsorship deal. She isn't really
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  Speaker 1: known for disclosing ads very well. Well, a day before
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  Speaker 1: releasing the first reel of the series, Sarah took to
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  Speaker 1: her Instagram story to provide a disclaimer that she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: out of touch. Alongside a selfie of her duck pouting
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  Speaker 1: in the car she was trialing, she wrote, Remember, I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the market to replace my current luxury car. I
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  Speaker 1: just need more seats so the bar is already high
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  Speaker 1: and I have high expectations when it comes to certain
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  Speaker 1: features of a car. Keep in mind, if I do
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  Speaker 1: decide to post the little review I filmed for the
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  Speaker 1: first car I've trialed, It's categorized as a luxury seven seater.
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  Speaker 1: So I've reviewed it as such. I comment mostly on
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  Speaker 1: cosmetic elements of the car, but honestly, that's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: interested in when reading and watching reviews of the luxury
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  Speaker 1: seven seaters I'm looking at buying. Don't come at me
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  Speaker 1: for being out of touch. I can assure you I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: And I acknowledge it's an absolute privilege and blessing to
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  Speaker 1: even be shopping this category. However, when a car is
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  Speaker 1: classified in the luxury car category, naturally they're held at
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  Speaker 1: a higher standard and the buyer will expect certain features.
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  Speaker 1: I think we can all understand and appreciate this. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that is all. And she finished with a thumbs up emoji.
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  Speaker 1: This is what convinces me that she has some sort
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  Speaker 1: of paid partnership deal in the wings because why would
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  Speaker 1: she want to ostracize her audience like this? She's already
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  Speaker 1: copying Flack for being out of touch and promoting this
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  Speaker 1: luxury car that most of the mums who follow her, well,
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  Speaker 1: majority of the mums who follow her, would not be
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  Speaker 1: able to afford. So what is the point of doing this?
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  Speaker 1: When you see a disclaimer like this, you know that
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  Speaker 1: the real is going to be absolutely obnoxious. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah followed up in another slide saying, don't worry, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not out here trialing an Aston Martin, Lambo or Ferrari,
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  Speaker 1: just everyday cars that have been classified by their brands
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  Speaker 1: to be in the luxury category. Nothing crazy, I promise.
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  Speaker 1: I love the way you keep saying luxury, Kate. Luxury.
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  Speaker 1: She also added a poll with the voting options. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: post your review. I'm interested in that. I don't care. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the yes was a resounding winner with over 90% of
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  Speaker 1: the votes. It's a bit weird for Sarah to reference
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  Speaker 1: an Aston Martin as being sort of an out of
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  Speaker 1: touch car because she's already purchased one of those for
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  Speaker 1: her dad a couple of years ago, which obviously is
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  Speaker 1: incredibly generous because she gave it as a gift to
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  Speaker 1: her dad. But You do buy luxury cars. To be
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  Speaker 1: fair to her, though, she didn't make a huge video
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  Speaker 1: about gifting her dad a car, which a lot of
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  Speaker 1: influencers would have done for content. It was mentioned in
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  Speaker 1: a vlog, though. It was, but it.
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  Speaker 6: Wasn't like clickbaity, like I bought my dad an Aston Martin.
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  Speaker 1: Which I really don't like when people put that sort
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  Speaker 1: of stuff on TikTok or YouTube. It's a bit vulgar.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of seems a bit patronizing to people's parents. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's a hard one as well, because we've had this
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  Speaker 1: discussion before where there are influencers or podcasters who are
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  Speaker 1: clearly making a lot of money, but they feel they're
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  Speaker 1: unable to disclose this to their audiences. Whereas you've got Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: she is at least being honest about how much she's
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  Speaker 1: earning and what she's buying.
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  Speaker 6: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone is upset that she's successful. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's more the tone. Yeah, it's very much the
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  Speaker 1: tone is quite condescending. Now, while the Instagram poll was
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  Speaker 1: a resounding yes, Sarah revealed her DMs told a different story.
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  Speaker 1: She described them as being a mix of beautiful and fiery.
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  Speaker 1: Here's more of what she said.
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  Speaker 8: I don't understand. I think people forget. I'm just a
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  Speaker 8: content creator, right? Like I think Instagram is just.
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  Speaker 5: A place to be entertained and there is no ulterior
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  Speaker 5: motive to me documenting this.
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  Speaker 8: Like I wasn't even going to document it. Me finding
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  Speaker 8: a new car to buy.
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  Speaker 1: As for the decision to share the content, Sarah said
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  Speaker 1: she was motivated by organic interest from her followers. She
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  Speaker 1: also said that she was surprised how interested they were
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  Speaker 1: when she briefly mentioned she needed to sell her car.
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  Speaker 1: And she did preface that if it ever seemed like
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  Speaker 1: she was sharing content outside of her normal realm, that
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  Speaker 1: it was for one of these two reasons.
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  Speaker 9: It's either I'm really passionate about it and I want
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  Speaker 9: to mix it up because guys, I've been doing this
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  Speaker 9: for 11 years.
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  Speaker 8: Like I just film things that make me happy. I'm
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  Speaker 8: a creative at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me she's getting that negativity in her
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  Speaker 1: DMs because we are in a cost of living crisis.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of influencers seem to keep overlooking that fact. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah was also adamant that the series was merely a fun,
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  Speaker 1: creative project and not a way to financially gain. This
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  Speaker 1: is what she said.
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  Speaker 8: And also, you don't get paid for reels. Like people
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  Speaker 8: were like, you're monetizing this.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: You don't get paid for Instagram reels. Like this is
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  Speaker 5: just for fun. The only thing I get paid for
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  Speaker 5: for views is YouTube videos. You get like cents per view,
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  Speaker 5: literal cents.
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  Speaker 9: But like Instagram and TikTok in Australia, you don't get paid.
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  Speaker 9: Like this is literally just fun and you guys ask
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  Speaker 9: for it. So yeah, if I ever film something that's
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  Speaker 9: like out of my norm, which like never box yourself in,
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  Speaker 9: you can.
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  Speaker 8: Film whatever you want to do. It's either like people
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  Speaker 8: have asked or I'm just like, this is a fun idea.
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  Speaker 1: I want to debunk what Sarah said there because I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a little bit misleading. She is correct in
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  Speaker 1: saying that Instagram and TikTok don't have a creative fund
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  Speaker 1: or AdSense like other platforms or in other countries. However,
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  Speaker 1: she still earns money from her reels on TikTok because
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  Speaker 1: she monetizes a lot of her reels and also Instagram
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  Speaker 1: stories by featuring sponsored products. I would be confident in
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  Speaker 1: saying that Instagram would be the social media platform where
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  Speaker 1: she makes the most money from. Yeah, she wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: making heaps on her YouTube AdSense. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: she keeps around YouTube because that's where she started and
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  Speaker 1: that's where she can tell longer form stories and really
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  Speaker 1: connect with her audience. But I think the moneymaker here
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  Speaker 1: is definitely Instagram. And she's not just creating content out
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  Speaker 1: of the goodness of her heart to entertain the masses.
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  Speaker 1: She gets paid a lot for doing it, whether that's
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  Speaker 1: through paid partnerships or promoting her own products like a
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  Speaker 1: cookbook that she sells. I found it interesting just how
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  Speaker 1: many disclaimers and Instagram videos Sarah put out before just
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  Speaker 1: dropping what was supposed to be an apparent fun video
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  Speaker 1: and piece of content because she went on to then
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  Speaker 1: accuse her followers of having double standards.
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  Speaker 9: If I was Kurt or just like a man who
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  Speaker 9: ran his own company, worked really hard, had their own
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  Speaker 9: business for over 10 years, no one would bat an
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  Speaker 9: eyelid if I was just filming random reels of me
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  Speaker 9: replacing a luxury car, like shopping around and like comparing them.
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  Speaker 8: No one would would say anything. It'd be like, oh,
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  Speaker 8: that's interesting. I wonder what he's going to buy. But
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  Speaker 8: as soon as you're a female, it's like a completely
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  Speaker 8: different story.
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  Speaker 1: Look, she does have a point. But I do think
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  Speaker 1: in this instance, it's a little bit of a lazy
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  Speaker 1: way to deflect the negative commentary that she was getting.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like when people just pull the gender card
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  Speaker 1: so that they can just do whatever they want. Because
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, in this instance, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think people are being sexist. I think people have
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  Speaker 1: an issue because she's being tone deaf. Karina Irby, who
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  Speaker 1: we're discussing later in the episode, shared a similar sentiment
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  Speaker 1: this week. She feels like she cops unnecessary negativity in
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  Speaker 1: the press for sharing about her luxury items and said,
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  Speaker 1: If she was a man and a successful male business owner,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the case. I get where they're coming from,
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  Speaker 1: but I definitely don't think that this is what's at
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  Speaker 1: play in this particular situation.
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  Speaker 6: And Kate, you.
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  Speaker 1: First saw this video and you told Soph and I
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  Speaker 1: about it. And I thought, oh, surely it's not that obnoxious.
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  Speaker 1: But my jaw was ajar while watching this reel. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about this review that we're going to obviously
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  Speaker 1: go into because Sarah uploaded it a couple of hours
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  Speaker 1: after sharing the disclaimers on her Instagram story. Now car
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  Speaker 1: number one of this review series ended up being a
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  Speaker 1: Lexus GX550. I wasn't expecting much from the reel because
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  Speaker 1: Sarah said the filming was really rough because she was
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  Speaker 1: holding her baby Harlow and she also said that she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to reshoot it but didn't have time. I was
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  Speaker 1: then very surprised when the reel ended up being professionally
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  Speaker 1: shot by Sarah's husband, Kurt, who is a videographer.
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  Speaker 6: Was it professionally shot?
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was on the phone, but it was
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  Speaker 1: edited in a really nice way. Well, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty good reel. It wasn't just something where
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  Speaker 1: you pop the camera up and film. As soon as
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  Speaker 1: I saw the car shots, it was like, boom, boom.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that's Kurt. Throughout her career, she and
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  Speaker 1: Kurt have always shared top quality content. Like they never
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  Speaker 1: put out anything that looks crap.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Kurt also featured in this video, which is quite
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  Speaker 1: unusual these days for Sarah's content. I mean, Back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, he was always there, but he's very busy
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  Speaker 1: with his business and everyone is always like, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: want more Kurt, but he's just never in the videos anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Which again, makes me think that there's more to just
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  Speaker 1: this simple review video.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was very clear from the get-go that Kurt had
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  Speaker 1: a vested interest in this video. The fact that he
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  Speaker 1: was filming it and the fact that he was in
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  Speaker 1: it was a big giveaway, but then he started spruiking
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  Speaker 1: all the features of the card. It almost felt like
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  Speaker 1: he was working for the brand and that's probably because
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  Speaker 1: He previously has worked for Lexus. So in January last year,
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  Speaker 1: he shot a campaign for the car brand. He shared
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  Speaker 1: photos to his Instagram alongside the caption, a few of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite car shots from a recent campaign with Lexus Australia.
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  Speaker 1: And Lexus Australia's Instagram account responded with a love heart
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  Speaker 1: under Kurt's post. Also back in November, 2023, Kurt was
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  Speaker 1: hired by Lexus to shoot content for their function at
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  Speaker 1: the Melbourne Cup. So here you clearly is in bed
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  Speaker 1: with this brand. So it must have been easy for
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  Speaker 1: him to organize a car for Sarah. Yes, it's very interesting. Now,
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  Speaker 1: while Kurt tried very hard to sell this car, Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, seemed more focused at being ultra
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  Speaker 1: picky about the car's luxury features. And it was clear
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  Speaker 1: she would have preferred trialing the next model up. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what she said.
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  Speaker 7: I should preface, this is the luxury version. And if
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  Speaker 7: I was to get it, I would get the sport luxury,
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  Speaker 7: which is one tier up. It would have different rims.
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  Speaker 7: But I'd probably get new rims anyway because I want big, bad,
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  Speaker 7: mongrel rims.
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  Speaker 4: Woof.
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  Speaker 1: The car's sunroof also didn't appear to be up to
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  Speaker 1: Sarah's standards.
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  Speaker 8: My current car has a full moonroof. Like, all the
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  Speaker 8: way back here is a sunroof.
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  Speaker 4: Let's open it.
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  Speaker 8: I wonder if there's a version where, like, you get
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  Speaker 8: a bigger one.
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  Speaker 1: You've always got this up.
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  Speaker 2: The sun?
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  Speaker 4: Can we close? Like, is there no shade? No, you don't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's manual.
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  Speaker 7: I sound like such a princess, but my Range Rover,
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  Speaker 7: you just boop, and it goes boop.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you hate it when you have to manually pull
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  Speaker 1: the sunroof shade over? I mean, we've all been there
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  Speaker 1: before and it's also not big enough. Oh, absolutely slumming
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  Speaker 1: it with that sunroof. I mean, normally I just get
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: my butler to open it for me. Yeah. Well, the
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: automatic boot also wasn't high tech enough for Sarah.
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure in the sports luxury, when you do this,
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: a handful of baby, a handful of groceries, when you
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: do that and it opens, oof.
• 14:47
  Speaker 7: As a mum, little things like that make me buy
• 14:49
  Speaker 7: a car.
• 14:50
  Speaker 8: I just want to whoop and I want to.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Beep, zhoop, manual. Look, I'm not a mum yet, but
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: that is actually a really good feature for mums. I
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: also want to say that it would have looked fake
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: if she was gushing too much about the car because
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: she's prefaced that this is going to be a review.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: So I mean, She does have to point out some
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: of the features that she does or doesn't like. Yeah,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: but not in such a way that it's like, oh,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just so above it that I need my car
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: to do all of these things. Again. It rubbed me
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: up the wrong way. It came down to tone. I
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: couldn't help but laugh when Sarah said this after making
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: the back seats lay flat down with a press of
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: a button.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: I feel like most of the Yummy Mummy cars have
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: this at this point.
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: I'm still impressed.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, my car does not do this. I've got
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: a Kia Sportage. I call it my soccer mum car.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: But I actually have to manually put the seats down.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: It does seem like Sarah has a problem with Kias
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: because she went on a rant before posting all of
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: these reviews. How she never would want a Kia Carnival,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: which is known to be a really popular mum's car.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Does that mean you're not a yummy mummy, Kate? Because
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was also this emphasis on... you're
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: only a hot mom or a yummy mommy if you're
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: driving around in a luxury car. You're some ugly daggy
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: mom if you don't have a fucking Lexus or a
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Range Rover. I did see this mom right underneath in
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: the comment section. Oh, I'm pretty happy with my RAV4
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: with my four kids. And then Sarah wrote a comment
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: back like, oh yeah, they're great cars. My mom has one.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't particularly like the term yummy mommy either.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of that TV show that was on
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Channel 7, when it was
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: all those rich moms that got like Mercedes G-Wags. Apparently
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: one of the yummy mummies, the one from Adelaide, she
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: drives around with the number plate yummy. I went to
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: her house. So when I was working at the 36ers,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: we got her on board to be an ambassador and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: we had her sit in court side and we filmed
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: something at her house. And I saw, remember the room
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that was like, what was the brand that she really liked?
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Was it Versace? Yeah, it was a Versace room. And
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: She was lovely. The whole family was so nice. Well,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: because that show went off overseas. Yeah, she's got a
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: massive market in the US. So all of the yummy
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: mummies ended up– I think she's got like– is it
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: a million followers or something ridiculous? I also feel like
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the term yummy mummy, like I agree, it feels very 2015,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: like as if you're only value in being a mum,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: as if you're.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: An attractive, fit– And add in the term boss babe.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: The whole thing felt so 10 years ago, like my
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: boss babe car. Also the word bougie. I know we
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: said it on the podcast a bit, but I actually
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: hate that word. Yeah. I mean, I'd much prefer to
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: be called a milf. I'm just joking. Now at the
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: end of the video, Sarah rated the car eight stars
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: out of 10 and asked her followers to comment below
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: what car she should try next.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: Now at the time of the carnival.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I would love that. Oh my God. Imagine how brutal
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: it would be. I find it offensive because it's funny
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: when I was looking for a new car earlier this year,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Dale was like, you should check out the Kia carnival.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I want you to be a soccer mom.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: And I was like, Kids, do you think we're having like,
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: I don't think we need seven seats.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: They're like a bus.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they are.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: And we actually.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Hired one for my wedding when we wanted to drive. Anyway,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: it's actually a really good car. So I told Dale
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: on the weekend, I was like, Sarah's day has been
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: bagging out Kia Carnivals. And he's like, what the fuck? Well,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: at the time of recording, The Real has notched up
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: 1.2 million views on Instagram and 197,000 on TikTok. clearly
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: creating hype about the reel before uploading it worked. And
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it does seem like Sarah purposely pumped it up for engagement.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: If Lexus are a paid partner, then they're probably pretty
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: happy with these views.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: But are people going to buy a Lexus from seeing
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: that video?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Well, also does her audience have the funds to buy
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: a seven seater luxury Lexus as well? Well, it might've
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: been a branding exercise. But also was it good publicity
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: for them? Because I feel like there are a lot
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: of people deterred and put off and saying she was
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: out of touch because of it. I actually can't believe
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: how many people were genuinely commenting on what car they
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: wanted her to try next. And The majority of people
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: were saying how much they enjoyed the series. I wonder
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: if Sarah was moderating the comments though, because when I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: was looking through the TikTok ones, there was a comment
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that says, Something like, oh, the comments aren't it and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: people had tall poppy syndrome, but there were no negative
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: comments on there. So it seems like they had been deleted. Well,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: if you are trying to impress a brand like Lexus,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you probably do want to filter out some of those
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: negative comments where your audience is basically saying that they
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: don't relate to this brand and it's out of touch. Well,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a Reddit thread dedicated to Sarah's luxury car series saga
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: was a different story though. One anonymous poster wrote, this
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: fucking pissed me off. Who even posts this shit? Just
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: buy a new car and get on with it. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: hate people who flaunt their shit like this. And she
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: knows damn well some of her mom followers stress about
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: even putting food on the table. Another said, laughing my
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: ass off. The fact she doesn't think she is out
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: of touch is actually hilarious. She has multiple homes, an
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: expensive boat, loads of designer clothes and accessories, constantly does
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: unnecessary and expensive skin treatments. The list goes on. She's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: actually delusional. Holy smokes. This post is making my blood boil.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: The tone of this is actually so condescending and rude.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Another user wrote, girl, my father and half of my
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: colleagues just lost their jobs because of the United States government.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear shit about you buying a
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: new luxury car while you're complaining. renovating a vacation home. Now,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I do want to preface that Sarah is well within
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: her rights to buy whatever luxury car she wants. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: if she does want to document it to her followers,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that's fine. The thing that I have an issue with
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: is firstly, the way she did it was pretty tone deaf.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But secondly, It's to do with the ad disclosure. So
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of confusion in our Facebook community
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: about what the actual issue was with this series. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: that is it for me, because if the series is sponsored,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Sarah really needs to disclose it. Because in 2021, the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: AANA updated their code of ethics to ensure influencers met
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the same advertising standards as traditional forms of advertising. So
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the new code essentially requires influencers to clearly disclose a partnership,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: which includes paid and contra. And this means influencers like
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Sarah must make it clear, obvious and be upfront with
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: their audience, the relationship they have with the brand. So
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they either have to use the inbuilt paid partnership tools
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: or use hashtag ad or hashtag sponsored. Sarah has stated
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: several times that this is not an ad. So we
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: will have to take her on her word, but it
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: will be interesting to see if this series keeps going
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and what car she ultimately decides on. Maybe in her head,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: if she does have a deal with Lexus, she doesn't
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: think that she has to disclose it until she gets
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that car. Because what it seems like if she has
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: organized a deal through a car company, what would probably
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: happen is that car company would loan her a car
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for a number of years, which she could then upgrade.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: It's not like they're giving her a completely free car.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I wonder if the deal could potentially be with a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: luxury dealership. So instead of the deal being just with Lexus,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it's with a dealership who is going to give her
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a range of different cars to try. And then Maybe
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: she thinks that the car she then gets, that's when
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the sponsorship starts, as you said, Amy. Well, I'm a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: bit suspicious because we have seen something similar play out
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: with Hyro, which is the electrolyte company that she's now
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: part owner of. So the seven months before disclosing that
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: she was a partner of that company, she was promoting
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: this product all over social media, saying that it was
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: this product that she organically liked when it really wasn't.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: It was something that she is financially benefiting off. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: want to talk about the cost of this car. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: was really curious when I saw her upload the reel
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: because I would have no idea what something like this
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: would set you back. I'm not really into cars. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: had a look and the Lexus GX550 is $ 130, 000 while
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the sports model that Sarah wanted is $ 145, 000. For most
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of Sarah's followers who are everyday Australians who are probably
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: struggling at the moment to get groceries on their table,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think that this car is it's in their
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: realm of possibility. I don't think that there's mums looking
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: at this thinking that this is possible for them at all.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I know we talk a lot about
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: how influencers also provide a bit of an escapism for
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: people and it's fun to see influencers trialling things that
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you might not be able to afford. So it did
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: seem like her audience did get some enjoyment out of it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: But I think there would be a lot of mums
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: feeling ostracised and alienated by it, particularly Kia drivers. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think she sort of touted this as come and find
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a mum car with me. See, I actually don't think
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it was like that at all. From the get-go, she
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: used the word luxury about 20 times and said, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: have high expectations because I've driven this luxury car before.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: There was no ounce of relatability in that disclaimer at all.
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: I'm so sorry, but I'm about to do a full rant.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'm smiling, but I'm so pissed. Bikini mogul Karina Irby
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is facing backlash after releasing a new skin-friendly pajama line,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: which her followers have labeled tacky and too expensive. Social
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: media users erupted after discovering they'd have to shell out
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: $ 218 to get their hands on a matching PJ set. Now, Sophie,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: this pajama line is an extension of Karina's bikini brand. Yeah,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: that's right, because Karina already owns a successful swimwear brand
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: called Moana Bikini, as well as a clothing brand called
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: The Smile Club. Karina's name will probably sound familiar to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: listeners because She has over a million followers and she's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: also been featured on our show a handful of times. Yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: who could forget that time that she tried to sue
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Influencer Updates AU? Yeah, because Karina brands herself as a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: body positivity influencer and she was accused of photoshopping her
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: body by an American super sleuth who called her a hypocrite.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: She also went viral for a post that was deemed
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: pretty out of touch because She said she accidentally bought
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: an investment property, which really went down like a lead
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: balloon in this current climate. Wasn't it beachfront as well?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I believe so. Now on Valentine's Day, Karina announced that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: her new pajama line was live. And I mean, I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just think that we needed another influencer bringing out a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: pajama line. The world was calling out for it. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: pajamas are like the new activewear to influencers. Yeah, well,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: she made the announcement on her Instagram by sharing a
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: photo of herself and one of her colleagues modeling the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: pajamas and wrote, oh my God, someone slap me, please.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: This is a dream. My skin-friendly PJ line has just
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: gone live and you're absolutely loving it with a ton
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: of crying faces. Thank you. Honestly, wow. Thank you. Because
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: this is a new adventure. The stock is limited. First in,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: best dress, literally. Happy Valentine's Day, everyone. I need to know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: what is a skin-friendly pajama like? Well, this has been
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a pretty contentious issue because Karina didn't actually explain on
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: her website what made the PJs skin-friendly. It was only
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: until she got some criticism that she went into detail
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: in the comment section saying that her PJs are designed
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: with a unique fabric blend that won't absorb your skin's
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: oils or prescription moisturizers. So she said, if you're an
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: itchy girly like me, you know the struggle of clothing
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: stripping your skin of any cream, leaving you dry and uncomfortable.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: You would have thought that if that is a big
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: selling point of the product, that it should have been
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: explained when the product was launched and also on the website,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: because I have never, ever heard of that before. No,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: neither have I. Now, it was awkward because this announcement
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: post was acting as though everyone was loving the pajamas
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and everyone couldn't get enough of them. But it seemed
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: like she hadn't read the room because Following the post,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: hundreds of her followers took to the comment section to
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: question the eye-watering price tag. So one follower wrote, they
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: look tacky. I wouldn't even buy these if they were
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: at Kmart. Whilst another said, girl, I was so excited
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: until I saw a pair of pants was $ 80 and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: now I'm heartbroken. Another said more expensive than Peter Alexander
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: full price and can easily get theirs on sale. You
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: mentioned that she has a bikini line. It almost feels
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like she used the bikini strategy of selling the tops
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and bottoms separately. Like I know that's something that has
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: been happening in the pajama space for a while. Well,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's clever. Well, it's not clever if you're outpricing yourself.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So I would never pay $ 100 for a pair of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: pajama bottoms, maybe if they were the Skims one. Now,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: these pajama sets do come with a pretty hefty price tag.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So they range from $ 158 to $ 218. So very similar
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to the Skims pajamas.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: And I was really astounded to see in particular how
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: expensive the summer pajamas were. So she has released a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: selection of camis. where the top basically has these flaps
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that open to reveal your stomach. Now, there wasn't much
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: material being used on these, and they will individually set
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you back $ 79, while a pair of matching shorts is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: a further $ 79. Now, this material looked rather thin, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it looked like something that you could get on a
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: fast fashion website. Obviously, we have heard that there's some
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: special fabric which makes it skin friendly. Now, when it
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: came to the winter pajamas, a pair of long pants
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: is $ 109, while the matching shirt is $ 109. I understand
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: what she's trying to do here, and she's trying to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: put her pajama line on a pedestal and say these
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: are a luxury brand, but she's marketed it all wrong.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: if she has missed the whole point that these are
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a special material that is kind to your skin, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: think people would have been okay with the price tag
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: if that had been properly promoted. As you've touched on
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Kate Skims, which is Kim Kardashian's pajama line, they have
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a very similar price tag, but they have really touted
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: themselves as being a luxury sleep brand. It's a hot item.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And you know, they've sell great shapewear and underwear. Like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: they've gained a big name for themselves before they went
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: into sleepwear and And I feel like you expect that
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: price tag from a brand like Skims, but not from
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a small influencer brand like Moana Smile Club, particularly because
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: these pajamas don't really look luxury. They look more on,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say it. I agree with
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that person's comment. They do look a bit tacky. Well,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I do remember Sofa Dofa and Lily Brown, their influencers
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that have pajama lines, and they've also been slammed over
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the cost. And when you are a smaller business, you
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: actually have to put a bit of a mark on
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the products. Well, also because you're not buying them in bulk,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: so you don't get the discounts that larger brands get.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So it is always going to be a little bit
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: more expensive buying from a small brand. Now, Karina was
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: quick to respond to the criticism, describing the pricing as
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: middle of the range, which wasn't very popular. So under
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a comment critiquing the prices, she wrote, you get what
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you pay for with a poking out tongue. She continued,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of development has gone into these pieces, they
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: also aren't overpriced compared to other leading brands. Now in
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: response to a customer asking how many washes and wears
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: they're likely to get out of the pajamas, Karina wrote,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I've never put out a bad product. I design everything
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: myself and back it with my life. I've been wearing
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and washing these for two years. It's tried and tested
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to say the least. I had to get the perfect
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: custom fabric blend to cater for my eczema and prescription creams.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: A lot of attention and detail has gone in potentially
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of Karina's followers may know about her issues
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: with her skin. And she might've breadcrumbed along the way
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that she was designing this new pajama range to help
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: people with skin conditions like her. But she's lost them
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: in the marketing. Yeah, because I think it needed to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: be reiterated in the announcement post and maybe followed up
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: with some Instagram stories. Yeah, but by saying skin-friendly, no
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: one knows what that means. I mean, if you haven't
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: had an issue with your skin, you don't know that
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  Speaker 1: you need skin-friendly pyjamas. Yeah, and a follower was quick
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  Speaker 1: to point out that on Moana Smile's website where the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: pyjamas were listed, it didn't outline what fabrics they were
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  Speaker 1: made from and where they were manufactured. Karina has since
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: updated all items to state that they are made from 93% LyoSeal,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: which is a hypoallergenic fabric. Again, something that you would
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: have thought you'd lead with. Yeah, definitely. Now, would you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: pay over $ 200 for some pajamas? I want to know. Look,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I personally wouldn't. I have received some nice pajamas recently
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  Speaker 1: for Christmas presents and birthday presents. Reese got me some
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  Speaker 1: Peter Alexander sets that I probably wouldn't have bought myself.
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  Speaker 1: that I've really liked. So I think they're a good
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  Speaker 1: present for people, but I don't know if I'd personally
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  Speaker 1: fork out for them just for an everyday wear. It's
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  Speaker 1: so ironic that this topic has popped up because I
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: have been fully into searching pajamas because I really want
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to get a nice set of winter pajamas for when
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  Speaker 1: I give birth. And my sister-in-law recently gave birth to
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  Speaker 1: our new nephew a couple of days ago, which is
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: super exciting. And it got me thinking like, oh, I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that I get some black pajamas
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: so that they don't get dirty or anything on them.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And I actually would pay $ 200 for a nice quality
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: pair that's going to last me, that's comfortable and soft.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: You're probably like me. So when I was organizing my
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: hospital bag, I came across Chantel Stanton, the model and influencer.
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  Speaker 1: I love her. She had a baby, I think a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: year ago now. I think he just celebrated his first birthday.
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  Speaker 1: And I looked at everything that she'd put in her
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  Speaker 1: hospital bag and she was wearing a the black skims
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  Speaker 1: pajamas that were over $ 200. And I was like, do
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I buy them? Do I not? My advice would be
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to not buy expensive pajamas for the hospital. I bought
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: myself two 90s because 90s better because it's got buttons
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  Speaker 1: and that you can just undo if you're breastfeeding. But
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: so does the pajama top. Yes, Sophie, but you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be wearing pajama pants when you've either given
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: birth vaginally or had a C-section because there's a lot
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: going on down there and nurses have to come in
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  Speaker 1: and change pads and do this and that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think I was wearing undies most of
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  Speaker 1: the time the first night. Well, I also thought that
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  Speaker 1: I might want a nice pair to wear when people
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  Speaker 1: come over to visit me at my house and that
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  Speaker 1: sort of thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can wear them after, but again, you're
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: going to be getting vomit on them. I would actually
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: invest in a really nice dressing gown instead. I definitely
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: don't think that I'll be on the PR list for
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Karina Irby after this topic, but I just really find
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: it interesting to see how she is trying to position
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  Speaker 1: this brand We've seen the likes of Matilda Jurf selling
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: very expensive sleepwear and dressing gowns. Obviously, there is a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: market there. Well, that fruit dressing gown, that might be
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: on discount. I always wanted that one too. Yeah, exactly.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: We're on super sale now. But I think where she
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: went wrong potentially is that the designs didn't really reflect
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  Speaker 1: a feeling of prestige or quality for me. Designs were
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit colourful and looked very fast fashion-y. And also,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: her audience probably don't have that expendable budget.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Made a new friend called Patrick.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Matt Sikowsky has given an insight into how he and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough navigate arguments. And I actually think this is genius.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So Matt revealed on his podcast that he and Tammy
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: have made up a mystical person called Patrick that lives
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: with them, who they blame everything on in an attempt
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to diffuse arguments. Let's have a listen to what Matt said.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Made a new friend called Patrick. Okay. Elaborate.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Elaborate.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: You don't want to know more?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: No, I do want to know more. I'm just confused. So...
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard of Patrick.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Patrick is a made-up mystical person. Yep. Roommate, if you must.
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  Speaker 4: And he lives with Tammy and I, and we blame
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: everything on him that happens around... So, for instance, we'll say, oh, babe,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Patrick keeps leaving his bikinis in the bathroom. Yeah. And
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: she'll be like, oh, okay. Or she'll be like, Matt,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Patrick doesn't make the bed in the morning. You know
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: what I mean? And then we blame Patrick for all
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: this sort of stuff to make it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Less conflict between us. So it's like you guys against
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: That is literally the couple against the problem. It is,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: And Patrick's a fucking problem, isn't he? God damn it, Patrick.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: God, this Patrick sounds like a bit of a lazy slob.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a Patrick living at my house
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: at the moment as well. I might have to implement this.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Does Patrick take all the towels and leave them on
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the floor or is that you? I think there's two
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Patricks that do. I think it's great though, because I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: know Kate with you, you've got your two dogs and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you kind of diffuse arguments with the dogs, like you
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: would have a dog voice.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Each dog has their own personality and it's not so
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: much around like with chores around the house. It's more
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: of You want to say something a bit edgy and
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: it sounds cuter in the dog's voice. Oh, Dad, stop
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: being a prick. I think as we approach motherhood, Amy,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we should take a leaf out of Tammy and Matt's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: book and introduce this Patrick character because I think when
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: tensions are high, it adds a bit of comedic value,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't it? Well, you end up like with the dog voices,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you end up having a voice for your baby as well.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: And they help you diffuse the situation too. I think
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the three of us need a Patrick in our friendship
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and working relationship to blame it on like, oh, Patrick
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: didn't finish his run sheet for the podcast. Patrick put
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: an error in the podcast. What's an idiot Patrick talking
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: about fake tanning children? I love that the name is
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Patrick as well. Like it's just such a random one.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Let's make one up for the podcast. I think it
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: needs to be a girl. Maybe we'll throw it out
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: to our podcast listeners. Can you help us come up
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: with a Patrick with a girl's name? who we can
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: blame all of our podcast issues on and all of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: our fights on. Before we go, I was really hoping
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to put together a segment on M. Davies' wedding. All
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: weekend I've been hanging out to see photos. She's been
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: dropping a lot of crumbs as well. Yeah, she put
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: up TikToks like on the morning of her wedding. Yeah,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and it's clear that someone has actually uploaded a photo
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: of her in her dress because she did put a
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: little reminder out of people not to put up photos
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: before she does. Yeah, that was interesting.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: But, yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So she hasn't put out her photos just yet. So
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: we are going to hold off to talk about that
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: on Friday. What's the bet? Because we're recording this on
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. She's going to put them out tonight.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: They look silly. Yeah. Well, I feel like she might
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: have a deal with Vogue or another publication similar to
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: what Tammy Hambro had. So we might be waiting a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: little while to see them, but I am so excited
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to see her dress. I think it's going to be
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: something quite different and out there. She's obviously a fashion designer.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: She had her fashion brand. Do we think there's going
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to be a visible g-string in any of the bridal outfits?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: She's already done it. She's done it. So she doesn't
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: need to do it again. I just love the dedication
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that she backed up three TikToks on the day of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: her wedding. I have a soft spot for M Davies.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I really like her content. Ever since she's become a mum,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I think she's a lot more relatable. And I've just
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: seen a really lovely side of her develop through motherhood. Well,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough enlisted the help. I think it was that
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: well-known girl on TikTok that does all of the social
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: media content for weddings. She ends up going to really glamorous.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Wedding content creator. That's the name I'm looking for. So
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that M Davies probably has the same woman.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lot of the videos she put up
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: were her speaking to camera. So I got the vibe
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: that maybe she put them up herself. Well, she's hardly
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: going to put up all the professional ones when she
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: hasn't shared her dress yet. We wait with bated breath.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: That is all we have time for today. Thank you
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: so much for joining us for this episode. If you
• 37:40
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• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for those. This episode was recorded
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  Speaker 1: on the traditional land of the Kaurna people of the
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  Speaker 1: Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past and present.