Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 306: From a Sale Barn Kid to the Auction Block — A Family Legacy To a Career with Brandon Frey
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- 0:00Today on the podcast, we have the pleasure of welcoming
- 0:02Brandon Frye on to the podcast. This is another one of our King
- 0:06of the Ring contestants that we are welcoming to Dodge City on
- 0:09May 2nd for the King of the Ring contest.
- 0:12And Brandon is here to share more about his story, his
- 0:16background, his upbringing in the auction business.
- 0:18And Brandon has a really wonderful story about legacy,
- 0:22about resilience, about just how you grow up in a family that
- 0:27this was their family vacation and he grew, grew up in the
- 0:30shadow of his dad's legacy and then continuing to take that
- 0:33into his professional career to these days.
- 0:36Brandon's story is just absolutely wonderful and I'm so
- 0:39excited that we get to bring it to all of you today.
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- 1:11For all of you being here and continuing to get the word out
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- 1:17continue to grow. Without further ado, let's go
- 1:20ahead and hear from Brandon Fry. Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily
- 1:27podcast. Your go to source for the
- 1:29latest. Livestock markets, industry
- 1:31insights, and the updates shaping agriculture today.
- 1:34I'm your host, Lauren Moylan, a passionate advocate for
- 1:37agriculture, here to keep you informed and connected.
- 1:40Now let's dive into today's episode.
- 1:47Great to be on here with you. I guess a little bit of my
- 1:49story. I was lucky enough to grow up in
- 1:53the sale barn, the livestock marketing business.
- 1:55My parents, Tom and Lisa Fry, moaned and then operated Creston
- 1:59Livestock Auction and in southwest Iowa.
- 2:01And, you know, I had a very successful business there, you
- 2:06know, and, and so you hear, hear a lot of stories from different
- 2:09auctioneers to where they had to, you know, go through the
- 2:12ranks to get their start. And you know, I did too.
- 2:15Dad wasn't just going to, you know, let me slip in there and,
- 2:18and not kind of earn my earn my badge.
- 2:20So you know, how to start where start where everyone else did
- 2:23and, and check in cattle, sort cattle and, and, you know, clean
- 2:27the barn and, and everything else.
- 2:29So, I mean, I was very fortunate because then I, you learn the,
- 2:33the whole aspect of the business that way.
- 2:35You will know what it takes. The late nights loading out
- 2:37cattle know what it takes to, you know, check in cattle, the
- 2:41girls in the office. And I think at the time, I
- 2:45really just want to be up there selling, you know, an
- 2:47auctioneering and and doing what dad does.
- 2:49But now, now looking back, I'm I'm really blessed and then I
- 2:53guess grateful that he did it that way.
- 2:55But they elected to sell that business in 2019 and, and, and I
- 3:02guess takes semi retirement. So with that, we moved out to
- 3:07Colorado and worked for the Cruz family at Centennial Livestock
- 3:11in Fort Collins, Co and which was really cool for me to see.
- 3:15I grew up listening to VHS tapes of cow sales from Centennial
- 3:19Livestock. And it was my dad and Danny Cruz
- 3:21selling And Danny Cruz, he's he's a world champion that that
- 3:25never, never competed. So he's a great auctioneer and
- 3:29so it was really cool to be out there and and learn from him and
- 3:32and listen to that. But the grass isn't this isn't
- 3:35always greener. So need to all all roads lead to
- 3:38home, it seems like. So we moved back to Iowa and I
- 3:43was doing the contract auctioneering for four or five
- 3:46different markets and and Ben Hale from Oklahoma bought
- 3:50Knoxville regional livestock and I was able and blessed to run
- 3:54that forum for a year or so and then go back to contract
- 3:57auctioneering. But you know, the rest is rest
- 4:00is kind of history and got to meet some great people along the
- 4:03way. And it's definitely a who, you
- 4:06know, business and and, you know, people are more likely to
- 4:11take a chance on you if they've seen that you've kind of earned
- 4:14your stripes in the back pens and you've sold here and you've
- 4:17done that. And so I'm definitely very
- 4:18blessed with with the people that I've been able to meet
- 4:21along the way. Yeah.
- 4:23When you look at your life from starting in the back pens,
- 4:26checking in cattle, doing your dues and kind of putting in your
- 4:30time to then stepping onto the auction block, what kind of had
- 4:35that? When did that bug bite you?
- 4:37When did that kind of fire really start for you?
- 4:40And what did that journey look like as well?
- 4:43Just kind of stepping into your career and deciding, yeah, this
- 4:46is this is something I want to do for the rest of my life, I
- 4:48think. Yeah, you know, it was, you
- 4:50know, I've heard, I've heard my dad say this numerous times.
- 4:52It's the only God-given talent I was given.
- 4:54So I guess I better use it. You know, it's definitely, how
- 5:00do you say I was? I, I'm going to say blessed a
- 5:03lot throughout this deal because I really believe that, that, you
- 5:07know, I've been blessed with knowing from a, from a young age
- 5:09what I was going to be doing. And you know, the career, I
- 5:13guess my career path, I didn't really choose.
- 5:15It kind of chose me. It was the only thing I ever
- 5:17knew And and yeah, just kind of took the bull by the horns and
- 5:21ran with it. So.
- 5:22But yeah, no, it, I think it also gives you maybe a little
- 5:26bit more respect and a little bit more understanding of all
- 5:29the, the workers who work out back and, you know, check in the
- 5:33cattle, sort the cattle, bring the cattle up yo you.
- 5:36You have more respect because you've done that job and you
- 5:38know what it entails. There's a lot of times at
- 5:41livestock markets where it can get a little fiery.
- 5:43I mean, if the cattle aren't coming to the ring as fast as
- 5:46you think, if you know, instead of losing your cool, you kind of
- 5:48know them. These boys are doing the best
- 5:50they can. So just kind of bear with them,
- 5:53you know, definitely a lot of respect for everybody in all
- 5:56aspects of the barn. For sure.
- 5:58So when you kind of decided that this is something that you
- 6:02wanted to do with your life and you're starting along that
- 6:05journey, a point in that journey was also your parents deciding
- 6:08to semi retire, like you said, and sell the barn that you grew
- 6:12up in. How did you kind of go about
- 6:14processing that and kind of figuring out what you then
- 6:17wanted to do with the rest of your life after?
- 6:19After that, you know, and, and I guess on your last question too,
- 6:23it was the bug bit me a long time ago.
- 6:26I mean, since I was four or five years old running around the
- 6:29sail barn there in Fort Collins. And, and then I was, I think
- 6:327:00 or 8:00 when we moved to Iowa.
- 6:34But always having the, the sail barn in the livestock market be,
- 6:38you know, such a huge part, influential part of your life,
- 6:41you get hitting by the bug pretty early.
- 6:43And you know, I guess the transition from working at, at a
- 6:47family owned operation and then going out and, and really, I
- 6:52guess putting, putting everything out into one career
- 6:55choice. You know, I, I just, again, I
- 6:57was blessed to just kind of have opportunities just fall into my
- 7:01lap. My, my oldest brother and his
- 7:04partner Kurt Sporelater, they opened up the doors for me to
- 7:07sell at their markets two or three days a week and and then I
- 7:10was selling at Russell Livestock there in Russell, IA on Mondays
- 7:14and everything just kind of fell into place.
- 7:18It's definitely been a great journey so far.
- 7:21So when you kind of like you got bit by the bug, you started
- 7:25really getting into it and really enjoying it and then you
- 7:28decided to of course take it a step further and start competing
- 7:31with it a little bit to what kind of started that kick for
- 7:36you? Was it a mentor that was like,
- 7:38hey, you need did you get your ass in the ring?
- 7:39Or was it like, oh hey, I think I could have some fun with this.
- 7:43So my dad, Tom Fry, that was kind of our family vacation
- 7:48every year was go to the Livestock Marketing Association,
- 7:51their annual convention and championship.
- 7:53And dad, I think he he did it a little bit in the 80s and 90s.
- 7:58And then I think there's 2000 and fours in Billings, Mt when
- 8:01he jumped back in and he was multiple time top ten in reserve
- 8:06and runner up champion. So, you know, I think it had to
- 8:11be O 4 when the bug really bit me and O 5 went to auctioneer
- 8:15school with my two brothers. So my first time, it's funny, I
- 8:19was talking to one of my good friends, Zach Ballard.
- 8:22He's been in the King of the ring contest before and we kind
- 8:26of grew up together. He we're just talking about the
- 8:30very first contest. You know, we were 18 years old
- 8:33and, and, and thought, you know, we were, we were God's gift
- 8:36auctioneering, but we really weren't very good.
- 8:38First contest I was in was in Montgomery, AL.
- 8:41I was 18 and there's 31 there and I finished 30th I think.
- 8:46So it was a pretty big eye eye opener.
- 8:50You know, you just progress and you get better every year.
- 8:53And the next one was in Ponoka, AB, Canada, and I think I
- 8:58finished 10th, but unfortunately at the time they're only taking
- 9:02the top 8. So, but yeah, I think it was
- 9:05more or less not really, maybe something I felt like I had to
- 9:08do, but something I wanted to do, you know, watching my dad go
- 9:11to the contest and and doing well and just kind of living on
- 9:15his legacy, I guess. Yeah.
- 9:17On that note, a little bit more talk a little bit more about
- 9:20kind of growing up with your dad's legacy and how that has
- 9:25kind of continued to impact your life as an adult now.
- 9:28From deciding that this is something you wanted to do and
- 9:31kind of following in that legacy to now how it continues to show
- 9:35up in your life still today. Sure, absolutely.
- 9:37And it show, I mean, just just talking to you and, and being on
- 9:41here, it's I think you get a lot of different qualities, a lot of
- 9:44different, I don't know from who you look up to a lot of
- 9:49different quirks. Like I know from a young age,
- 9:51since I was knee high to grasshop, I remember, you know,
- 9:54holding stuff up on a rack and, you know, just helping dad and
- 9:58wanted to be like dad. And, and so I guess the vital
- 10:02next step from, you know, just being in shadow everywhere he
- 10:05went was, you know, to start auctioneering and start doing
- 10:09what he does. And, you know, being able to
- 10:11grow up knowing what you're going to do and knowing what you
- 10:14want to do. And, you know, having your your
- 10:17hero as someone you live in the same house with, you know, it
- 10:21was very fortunate upbringing. So it I definitely hit home in a
- 10:25lot of places, but I know my dad's left, you know, such a big
- 10:29legacy. It's kind of and, and a big
- 10:31shadow. I mean, he's, he's 5 foot 18,
- 10:33he's 6 foot 6. So he, he cast a big shadow, But
- 10:37you know, just following him around everyday life decisions.
- 10:40I mean, even from from what boots to pick out, how to shape
- 10:42your head, how to, you know, do a lot of things.
- 10:45It's all stems from, you know what you learn and what you pick
- 10:49up on from you know someone that's been vital part of your
- 10:52life. Yeah, it absolutely does.
- 10:54And I think that as we continue to walk into our adult lives,
- 10:57it's crazy to see, looking back in retrospect, how much our
- 11:02heroes in our lives and those really influential individuals
- 11:06impacted who we are today. Like I always tell people I am
- 11:10who I am because of those people in my life and because of their
- 11:13support and them pushing me and then continuing to challenge me
- 11:17to do new things, which I think was from what I'm hearing was a
- 11:20big theme in your guys's family as well.
- 11:22This was a family endeavor. This is something.
- 11:24You guys all kind of did and continue to enjoy together.
- 11:27Can you just talk a little bit more about that and growing up
- 11:31in that environment? Yeah, so we had, I had two older
- 11:34brothers and a little sister, you know, everything from from
- 11:37the ranching to the sale barn. I mean, we all did together.
- 11:40I mean, Mom was definitely the boss, you know, and then and
- 11:44then dad second tier, But you know, it's definitely it.
- 11:47It is hard to explain to to anybody unless they've they've
- 11:50really been a part of it and really seen it first hand.
- 11:53It's hard to explain. It's you you're born into.
- 11:58I don't really want to say you're employers, but you know
- 12:01you it's it's so that's a great thing.
- 12:05I think everyone should experience here.
- 12:07I wish there there was the ability to, you know, all your
- 12:10answers to all your problems. They're all solved around the
- 12:13dinner table. I mean, it's you know, from from
- 12:16buying the next property or or selling the calves or you know
- 12:21who, who we're going to have sort cattle on on next Wednesday
- 12:23special. It was just all there at the
- 12:25dinner table. So I mean, you couldn't really
- 12:28come home and hang your work at the front door.
- 12:30I mean, your work followed you everywhere.
- 12:31But, you know, definitely a huge blessing and a huge part of, of
- 12:35who I am and, and who I strive to be is because of the family
- 12:39business. And and yeah, it's, it's hard to
- 12:42put in words, Lauren. Yeah, no, I, I understand that.
- 12:45It really is. And I really resonate with the
- 12:48dinner table analogy as well. I it's crazy how many
- 12:51conversations are had or Adam, how many problems are solved,
- 12:53how many business decisions are made or things like that.
- 12:56We were definitely a dinner table family too.
- 12:58And so it's one of those things that really sticks with me too.
- 13:01But when we're talking about your life and going from that
- 13:05and growing up in it and being like, OK, the bugs bit me.
- 13:08This is what I'm doing with my life to where you are right now
- 13:12in your life. Kind of talk about that
- 13:13transition and then just where you are right now in life and
- 13:17what what this world kind of looks like for you and what it
- 13:21continues to mean to you every day.
- 13:22Sure, absolutely. So you know, you're definitely,
- 13:25there's old saying that you know, you, you sit around the
- 13:28table with champions, you'll be the next champion.
- 13:30Or you sit around the table with, with millionaires, you'll
- 13:33be the next millionaire. And that, that's one thing that
- 13:36that I've been blessed enough to, to do is, is surround myself
- 13:40with such great people. Today, I'm, I'm sitting here at
- 13:42Central Plains stockyard, dress all Macy's sleep, you know, just
- 13:46a fantastic family. Russell was he was, he is a
- 13:48vital part. And you know, when I decided to
- 13:51go out and be a contract auctioneer, he, you know, I
- 13:54reached out to him and before long he had me a couple sales.
- 13:57And, you know, it's it's just who he is and who they are, just
- 14:00a testament of of the kind of people we get to meet and this
- 14:05in the livestock marketing world, I mean, all salt of the
- 14:07earth people. And, you know, with that
- 14:09transition into it, it's definitely who, you know, not
- 14:12what you know. But I was just lucky enough
- 14:14that, you know, I, I must have listened to Dad enough that that
- 14:18I knew enough, you know, have these people trust me to do it.
- 14:21And so but yeah, it's definitely, definitely the best
- 14:26decision I ever made. So.
- 14:28Yeah, absolutely. Pretty amazing, Pretty amazing
- 14:32what God can do. Every testament of our lives, I
- 14:35think I can continue to point back and be like, well, that
- 14:37sure as heck was it me. So thank you, big man, for
- 14:40putting your guided hand on that.
- 14:43Yeah, that's right, for sure. So when you're looking at your
- 14:45life right now and being a contract auctioneer and kind of
- 14:49being able to bebop a little bit around the country and do a
- 14:54little bit of this, a little bit of that, what kind of is really
- 14:57standing out to you right now in the world of livestock marketing
- 15:01as far as that goes? You see a lot of country, you
- 15:04see a lot of people, a lot of cows.
- 15:06What's what's kind of your takes right now on what we're seeing
- 15:09in the world? You know, it's it's no better
- 15:11time to be in the cattle business.
- 15:14The record high prices, it's just really good.
- 15:17But on the down side of that, you know, the numbers just
- 15:20aren't there. It's so it's old rule of supply
- 15:22and demand. You know, as long as the demand
- 15:27is there and the supplies as low as it is, you know, we're going
- 15:30to be prosperous. And and you'd go out to the
- 15:32country and you see these Cal calf men and say it's it's about
- 15:36time that they reap the benefit from that.
- 15:38You know, they're driving new pickups or hauling the cows in
- 15:42with new trailers or they're finally getting a return on
- 15:45years and years worth of work that, you know, before now might
- 15:48have just been breaking them even every year or showing a
- 15:51loss or, you know, however their program was, but now it's they
- 15:55can be prosperous. But in order to do that, you
- 15:58know, our, our demand still has to stay high for USA beef, which
- 16:03I think it will. It's the best product in the
- 16:04world. Other countries love it.
- 16:06We love it. There's nothing better, you
- 16:08know, so I think the demand always be there.
- 16:10As long as demand stays there, our supplies where it's at, You
- 16:13know, the cows are definitely not as numerous as they were,
- 16:16you know, even five years ago. So I think it's a really great
- 16:20time for for the cow man. They're prosperous.
- 16:22Everyone just seems happy. It's it's a lot easier to go to
- 16:25a sale and and have people smiling at you and happy go
- 16:28lucky when they get their check. And it's it's really nice to be
- 16:31the hero than it is the the alternative.
- 16:33So it's it's just been great all over up here.
- 16:37You know, we were a little dry as as far as grass, but the good
- 16:40Lord blessed us with precipitation the last week and
- 16:43a half two weeks sunshine. We're greening up and getting
- 16:47ready for a spring run. So we're definitely, definitely
- 16:51blessed. Yes, for sure.
- 16:52I think that especially in your position, instead of getting
- 16:56glares from the audience, you're getting smiles right now.
- 16:59So that's right, it's a good time to be selling, but it's a
- 17:02good time to be an auctioneer too, because you get to have a
- 17:05little bit more joy in your everyday work right now.
- 17:09Makes it a lot easier. Makes it a lot easier, that's
- 17:12for sure. Yeah, it definitely does.
- 17:15Definitely does. So as someone who just sees a
- 17:18lot of the country, sees a lot of the things that are going on,
- 17:21what are kind of your thoughts as we go into spring run as we
- 17:25continue to prep for? Because right now everyone's
- 17:28gearing up for selling fall calves and doing some things
- 17:31like that. So what are your thoughts as we
- 17:33go into the next few months of spring and of summer starting up
- 17:37soon too? Sure, right.
- 17:38I think, I mean, I think it's going to stay good.
- 17:40I've, you know, I, it's good right now, the best we've ever
- 17:43seen and there there's no reason for it not to be good.
- 17:47I'm really excited for the future opportunities and
- 17:51there's, you know, next big run of calves, but Gods, it's just a
- 17:55really, really fun time to be in the in the livestock marketing
- 17:58business. Absolutely.
- 18:00I was talking to someone else and they said it perfectly, like
- 18:02everyone's, everyone's happy right now because typically it's
- 18:0511 subgroup of people are happy and everyone else is pissed off
- 18:09with the world. And right now everyone gets a
- 18:11little piece of the cake. And you know, the Packers are
- 18:14maybe whining a little bit, but they're still making money and
- 18:17they're still doing good because the Packers do still have to
- 18:20make their money at the end of the day for us to make money.
- 18:22But everyone, everyone's winning right now.
- 18:25Now everyone can sit around the dinner table and share a piece
- 18:27of cake. Right now, none of us are trying
- 18:29to go at each other's throats. So.
- 18:31That's right. No, it's a It's a great time to
- 18:34be in it, great time to be alive, that's for sure.
- 18:38Yes, it absolutely, absolutely is.
- 18:40So as we kind of like look to just your career in livestock
- 18:45marketing and things like that, what pieces of advice do you
- 18:48have to other people, whether they're in the livestock
- 18:52marketing industry and they're an auctioneer themselves or
- 18:55aspiring to be 1, or maybe they're just kind of in the
- 18:57industry as well? What pieces of advice do you
- 19:00kind of just want to leave with people as you look back on your
- 19:03career? True, you know, definitely find
- 19:06somebody that's that's you can look to.
- 19:09One thing I was always blessed with was, you know, having my
- 19:12mentor right there in the same house or, you know, same dinner
- 19:15table. Find someone you you really look
- 19:18up to you really. You don't want to be like, you
- 19:21know, and my other one was was Russell sleep.
- 19:23You know, he's helped me out tremendously, you know, with my
- 19:27champ, with, you know, the opportunity to to hone my craft.
- 19:31But find somebody you you really like, you really like to listen
- 19:34to, like their personality, you know, and just take bits and
- 19:38pieces from from them, take bits and pieces from everybody.
- 19:41But the best word of advice and old auctioneer told me, you
- 19:46know, market man Bob Hoskins when I was running the barn at
- 19:49Knoxville, he said just tell the people what you'll do and do
- 19:52what you say you'll do and you'll be all right.
- 19:55So I think that's you can take that mold that and put it in all
- 19:58aspects of life, not just, you know, cattle marketing just that
- 20:02easy. Tell them what you'll do and
- 20:04and, and do what you say. So it's.
- 20:07Just such a great priest of advice for all aspects of life
- 20:10on that one for sure. Whether you're where, no matter
- 20:13where you're at. Yeah, that's right.
- 20:15That's right. But no, it's, there's so many
- 20:18great people. There's not a, there's not a
- 20:20Better Business to be in as far as I'm concerned.
- 20:22So anywhere you look there, there's someone that you can
- 20:25look up to you, someone you can take, you know, a part of it
- 20:29and, and craft it to yourself. But definitely find a mentor,
- 20:33find somebody that that is going to make you better.
- 20:36You know, you surround yourself with great people, you're going
- 20:38to have great outcome. So.
- 20:39Yeah, you said it perfectly earlier, of who you're
- 20:42surrounding yourself with. A lot of times you hear this of
- 20:45you're the average of the five people you spend the most time
- 20:47with. And I think that's something
- 20:48that's really stuck with me too, of who am I spending my time
- 20:52with? Who are my mentors?
- 20:53Who are the people that are really pouring into us as
- 20:56individuals so that we can continue to be successful in
- 20:59whatever aspect of life that is in, whether it be in
- 21:03auctioneering, whether it be in producing cattle, whether it be
- 21:06in just a professional career within the cattle industry,
- 21:10whatever that kind of looks like.
- 21:11It's a piece of advice that I think a lot of people can can
- 21:14take home to him. Yeah, and that's, you know, that
- 21:17May 2nd there in Dodge City is going to be, you know, about a
- 21:21dream come true for my get to sit there and share the stage
- 21:24with John Corey, Kenny Wilcox, Terry Yelson.
- 21:28You know, Terry, I used to used to work with him at Mannheim
- 21:31Denver just pre COVID a little bit.
- 21:33So but it's still, you know, you get to sell cattle.
- 21:36Andrew Sylvester, Justin Dotson, I mean, Chuck Bradley, I mean
- 21:40Chase, Chase Thompson, Come on. I mean, how can I get any better
- 21:43than that? So you know, you take the best
- 21:45in the industry, put them in one spot and you know it's certainly
- 21:50count your blessings. At the end of the day, it's it's
- 21:52going to be great. It is and we are so excited to
- 21:54have you on the auction block, that's for sure.
- 21:56I, I've been interviewing all the contestants and having them
- 21:59on and share their stories and it just makes me so excited for
- 22:02May 2nd to get here already because it means that I get to
- 22:05see you guys at work and get to meet all of you in person and do
- 22:08all of the things. It's going to be a day to
- 22:10remember, that's for darn sure. It'll be fun, yeah, And it'll
- 22:13be, it'll be a dream come true for me, that's for sure.
- 22:16I love it. Well, Brandon, as we wrap up
- 22:18this podcast, is there anything else that you would like to say
- 22:21or leave to our listeners? Today, you know, it's just
- 22:25blessed to be here. Take, you know, don't take every
- 22:27day for granted and you know, just have fun, smile, relax and
- 22:31you know, that's all you know what, no one gets out alive.
- 22:34So you just will have a little fun.
- 22:35Love it. I could not agree more.
- 22:37And you know what? If you all see Brandon up on the
- 22:40auctioneer block, you better be smiling at him these days
- 22:43because it's a good day to be a cattleman and it's a it's a
- 22:47great day to be an auctioneer too.
- 22:48So, Brandon, thank you So, so much for coming on, for sharing
- 22:51a little bit about your story, your thoughts on the cattle
- 22:54industry right now, the auction industry, everything else.
- 22:57I really appreciate your time today and cannot wait for May
- 23:002nd. To all of our audience members,
- 23:03make sure you check out the show notes down below.
- 23:05I'm going to have all the information for the King of the
- 23:06Ring contest that Brandon's going to be participating in
- 23:09along with some other really wonderful people in the coming
- 23:13weeks as well. So Brandon, thank you once again
- 23:15for coming on today. We really appreciate it here at
- 23:17the team. To all of you listeners, we will
- 23:19see you all on another episode next time.
- 23:21Have a good one y'all.