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The Sound of Persistence: A WILHELM SCREAM Down Under · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: It's all good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you guys feeling about coming back to Australia
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  Speaker 2: so soon?
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  Speaker 3: I stoked, Yeah, it's the best. We love it there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Was there anything from like your last trips here that
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  Speaker 2: stands out as a memory for you guys?
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  Speaker 3: I have one particularly, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm drinking an ice coffee and the greatest video
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  Speaker 4: clip of all time between us got captured because we
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  Speaker 4: were at one of the cliffs with beautiful cliffs. I
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  Speaker 4: forget where it was, on one of the drives with
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  Speaker 4: the water. It's beautiful, yep. And we stopped and I
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  Speaker 4: had like a fresh ice coffee and I'm walking in
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  Speaker 4: the parking lot and trends approaching and he's filming.
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  Speaker 3: I don't notice, and he just goes, what's up, man?
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  Speaker 4: He just smashes the ice coffee on my head and
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  Speaker 4: it shatters everywhere and I just look.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh man, devastation.
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  Speaker 3: It was devastation, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, hey, it was only five dollars or so,
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  Speaker 4: so I wasn't too upset about it, but uh.
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  Speaker 3: It was hilarious still mine, so.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out of character for me too. I don't know anyone,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm very I'm a.
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  Speaker 5: Very easygoing guy. Just I just couldn't. I just I
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  Speaker 5: was like, oh man, he teed it up and he
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  Speaker 5: was like handing it to me Like I'm like like,
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  Speaker 5: that was one of my greatest stories of all time.
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  Speaker 4: I told him the the long con is coming though,
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  Speaker 4: the revenge is coming. He just doesn't know what it's
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  Speaker 4: going to happen. It's like Walter White when he's walking
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  Speaker 4: in Amsterdam one day.
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  Speaker 2: He won't says that revenge obviously hasn't been played out yet.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm still playing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to be eating I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: eating hot soup. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's a shame about that, too, is
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  Speaker 2: our coffee is really good. I talk about this a
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  Speaker 2: long time American.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing compares, especially to the dirt water. You guys
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  Speaker 2: have no offense. But what is that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that's true?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good, I'm glad. What was it called the flat white?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah with that's with milk in it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And is the other one just black? Just tall black?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You can cappuccino a long black. Yeah, they've got milk, well,
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  Speaker 2: not the long black, but yeah, the cappuccino. Anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: realized that you guys when I went to Hawaii, didn't
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  Speaker 2: like to add milk to your coffee.
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  Speaker 5: It would yeah, I maybe do I maybe do a
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  Speaker 5: slight I maybe do a slight bit if you go
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  Speaker 5: to Canada, if you go to Canada, Like my wife
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  Speaker 5: and I were just in Canada and.
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  Speaker 1: Like if I was like, oh, can I have like
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  Speaker 1: a like a like a like a splash.
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  Speaker 5: It was in Montreal, Yeah, And she looked at me
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  Speaker 5: like I was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like why why is it? Why is
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  Speaker 1: that crazy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: And so I reader a nice coffee, just like a splash,
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  Speaker 5: just a splash, just a little bit to take the
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  Speaker 5: edge off. I don't want, you know, not too milky.
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  Speaker 1: Still hold it up like it was half milk. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like oh, and I was like and I
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  Speaker 1: was like oh. I was like, oh the other one,
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  Speaker 1: can you just.
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  Speaker 5: Give me, like just just go like yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And the other one.
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  Speaker 5: She's like, what, but but but but it will be
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  Speaker 5: too strong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, No, that's okay. Like I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I like I like my coffee to be like I
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  Speaker 1: want to be like this atric exactly exactly I want
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 5: I want to look like a crack Fox after.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you guys know where it's at, you know
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  Speaker 2: what you're talking about, then back on track. Are we
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  Speaker 2: getting an array from your catalog or purely new music?
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  Speaker 5: On this tour.
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  Speaker 1: We always give an array.
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  Speaker 5: We always try to like we always try to mix
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  Speaker 5: it up. We still got to talk about what we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna do, what we're gonna do on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we have.
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  Speaker 5: We have three little legs, like we're starting in the
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  Speaker 5: US West Coast, US and then go and then going
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  Speaker 5: up and then uh and then to Australia and then
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  Speaker 5: Japan from there. So we've already been talking about the
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  Speaker 5: new songs that we're going to add in the set.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely the new singles because people have been really rocking it,
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  Speaker 5: like rocking Midnight Ghost and let It Ride. So we're like, really,
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  Speaker 5: we're really hyped on how many people I've been checking
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  Speaker 5: it out, like considering the fact we.
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  Speaker 1: Told nobody that we were putting it out.
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  Speaker 5: We just said we just dropped it yeah one day,
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  Speaker 5: So like, yeah, definitely like those songs. But Brian also
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  Speaker 5: like he we we we we try to get like
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  Speaker 5: bangers from every from every era. You know, It's it's
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  Speaker 5: hard sometimes you know, because like I really I want
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  Speaker 5: to know what people, you know, what the fans want
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  Speaker 5: to hear that we haven't played yet, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like like because there's always like, oh, can you play
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  Speaker 5: a diver?
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, man, I'll play any song.
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  Speaker 5: I'll play any song we have for anybody that wants
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  Speaker 5: to I'll.
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  Speaker 1: Play any song.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Like like my answer is always yes, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean. But it's always that thing. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I would die if you played this song. It's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: we played the song, and then it's like okay, that
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  Speaker 5: person and maybe one other personally people in.
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  Speaker 1: This whole club that know that song, and.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, ah, ship we had to take We had
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  Speaker 5: to take out a song that a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: other people want to hear.
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  Speaker 1: So it's very sensitive. It's very sensitive. That's why I'm
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  Speaker 1: not in charge of this cell.
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  Speaker 3: It gets harder with uh, with every new record too.
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  Speaker 4: You know, with bands that a big catalog like Wilhelm
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  Speaker 4: or that have been around that long. It's like with
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  Speaker 4: every new record, you essentially end up just playing the
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  Speaker 4: singles and then you know, we always prioritize like there's
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  Speaker 4: definitely gonna be blocks or songs off every album, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 4: for the most part, and we're conscious about that, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's just one of those things. It's like they're all
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  Speaker 4: your babies, you know, and and and all the songs
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  Speaker 4: we play in the set regularly are like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: have good, real actions and are great. So trading one
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  Speaker 4: of those old ones for possibly a new one that
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  Speaker 4: people loved, but it's not twenty years of touring. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's tricky, but it's fun. Playing new stuff is really
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  Speaker 4: you know, is really fun.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's true. I never actually thought about that, Like,
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  Speaker 2: obviously you have to play your cult faves and the
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  Speaker 2: deep cuts and that, and you know, from an array
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  Speaker 2: from like all your eras. But I guess you're right
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  Speaker 2: the songs that maybe people don't know as well, and
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  Speaker 2: if they get suggested and then yeah, you're so right,
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  Speaker 2: Like which song then do you sacrifice? And there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot that goes into that. And I do want to
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  Speaker 2: talk more about your latest upcoming record, Chap Peete. Do
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  Speaker 2: you feel more freedom or more pressure writing new music
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  Speaker 2: this far into the band's life.
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  Speaker 6: I I feel no pressure at all. I think for
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  Speaker 6: our band, you know, we've always sort of been. We've
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  Speaker 6: never been a part of a wave of anything. You know,
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  Speaker 6: like we missed, we missed the punk wave, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the hard the hardcore thing. We're not really like we
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  Speaker 6: we just kind of like do our thing, you know
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  Speaker 6: what I mean. We're sort of we're sort of like
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  Speaker 6: a genre in.
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  Speaker 5: And of ourselves almost so when new stuff comes out,
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  Speaker 5: it's like we I guess for for me for those reasons,
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  Speaker 5: like I always reference our own band, you know, So
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of it's sort of like it's you're you're
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  Speaker 5: you're in competition with a different version of yourself, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and this this trippy almost like science fiction kind of way,
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  Speaker 5: and it's like you you envision, you envision a version
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  Speaker 5: of yourself that is like at its fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Best, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And then that's the thing that we always like chase mmm,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what always keeps all of it. That's I
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  Speaker 5: like to think that's one reason why our fans like
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  Speaker 5: stick around and come and you know, keep coming out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Because we're not like, we're
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  Speaker 5: not like one of those like cool new like turnstile
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  Speaker 5: type bands, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Like whereas like you know, these people. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: band is like is reg Rippon, but like they're also
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  Speaker 1: quite fast. Yeah, they're also very cool.
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  Speaker 5: They're also like they're all they're they're they're also like
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  Speaker 5: cool as fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Would this trick will talk to me in high school?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like like, no, we're like dudes off the street,
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  Speaker 5: and we've always been that way, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Like like like the dudes that you're gonna see us
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  Speaker 5: walking the streets of Melbourne searching for our third coffee
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  Speaker 5: of of the day. Like we're going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 5: carrying that coffee into soundcheck and then you like we're
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  Speaker 5: the same dudes, you know. And not to say that
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  Speaker 5: other bands aren't the same people that they are on
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  Speaker 5: the street, but I mean, like in a like we've
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  Speaker 5: never we're not like the you know, I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: like a part of like the Warped Tour crowd. It's
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  Speaker 5: sort of like where it's like where it's like we're
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  Speaker 5: cool enough for some crowds, not cool enough for other crowds.
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  Speaker 5: And when you realize that and you don't give a
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  Speaker 5: rats ass about that, man, where's the pressure. There's no
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  Speaker 5: pressure and to be able to do this, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: at a high level still like where you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: still like a career career, you know, not like guys
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  Speaker 5: going on vacation and rocking out. This is like a career,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like like we've never broken up, Like for
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  Speaker 5: us to be in that, to be in that position,
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  Speaker 5: I'm incredibly proud of that. It's fucking rare air and
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  Speaker 5: we're lucky, and we're lucky, you know when it like
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  Speaker 5: when I was saying those words out loud to you guys,
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  Speaker 5: like I just convinced myself of how fucking lucky I am,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and and how cool it is that we
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  Speaker 5: get to play the kind of music that we want
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  Speaker 5: without freaking telling anybody, And like, you know, one hundred
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  Speaker 5: thousand people will listen to that song, you know, get
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  Speaker 5: outa get out of here, Pinch Me, Pinch Me at
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  Speaker 5: age fifteen, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. That's what I like about
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  Speaker 2: you guys. So admittedly I heard of you guys when
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  Speaker 2: I was a teenager a long time ago. Shout out
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  Speaker 2: to the Kingstead that was one of my favorite songs
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  Speaker 2: of the time. But I remember trying to show my
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  Speaker 2: friends and I'm like, I was very emo kid and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this few bad, but like you
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  Speaker 2: guys were a new band, but I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you guys should hear these. I didn't really know how
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: to categorize you because you don't follow trends. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: they're not Amo, they're not. But you know, you guys
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  Speaker 2: have kind of elements of all different sort of genres
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  Speaker 2: and I think, you know that's been a tribute to
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  Speaker 2: your success, is that you guys don't follow trends. You're
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  Speaker 2: doing what you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's it's like it's kind of like a fine
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  Speaker 5: line to walk, you know what I mean, because like
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  Speaker 5: we don't like we play a type of music that
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  Speaker 5: you know, we sort of like developed for ourselves, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like like our law, the Wilhelm lore,
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  Speaker 5: we live in our songs, right, So it's kind of like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: like we reference other things we do in other songs,
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  Speaker 5: like I reference other songs that we do, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you know what I mean. Like, so we
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  Speaker 5: also don't have like the trappings and the rules that
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  Speaker 5: exactly maybe a hardcore band has to abide by, you know,
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  Speaker 5: love it or love it or hate it, they do
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  Speaker 5: have to abide by certain rules, uh, the same like
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  Speaker 5: a street punk band would have to abide by some
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  Speaker 5: kind of rules, you know what I mean, And and
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  Speaker 5: for us to do that, yo, we're sticking our neck
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  Speaker 5: out because it's a fine line, bro like between like.
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  Speaker 1: Genius and cringe. It's a it's a fine line.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, Angela, I mean, like I'm
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  Speaker 5: I'm I'm sure if you ask people in your friend group,
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  Speaker 5: there would be a couple of people in your friend
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  Speaker 5: group that would probably say the same thing. Right. They'd
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  Speaker 5: probably be like, you know what, Yeah, that band's fucking awesome,
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  Speaker 5: and then another bit another person would say, I don't fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Get it at all, though obviously it's kind of like.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's kind of lame as fuck, Like our
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  Speaker 5: our songs are definitely like I feel like there, or
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: at least people tell me this. You know, they're more growers,
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: you know, like the more you the more the more
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  Speaker 5: you listen to a song, the more shit you pick
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  Speaker 5: up on. It's like, oh, I get it, and people
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  Speaker 5: tell me, oh, I'm so glad I stuck it out,
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  Speaker 5: and then I'm like to pull my fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Hair out because it's like, shit, why couldn't this I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Why couldn't we make.
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  Speaker 1: This song good enough that they would love it on
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  Speaker 1: the first listen?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, I'm fine but now, but
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  Speaker 5: now we have a sound.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly I'm finding nowadays. Anyway, a lot of my favorites
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  Speaker 2: now favorite bands. The songs I hear for the first time,
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  Speaker 2: I actually don't vibe with until I've heard them like
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  Speaker 2: about three times or something, and then I'm like, it's fire,
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  Speaker 2: it's wicked. So yeah, I don't know, there's something in that.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But also, how do you guys feel knowing that
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  Speaker 2: your fans have grown up alongside your music, and like
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  Speaker 2: where you were then and where you are today is
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  Speaker 2: so different.
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  Speaker 5: I think I'm bullying the con I'm like hogging the
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: conversation from Ben. But like, these are sort of these
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: are sort of like old guy jokes, old guy questions,
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  Speaker 5: like I'm the old guy here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the newest members.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel appropriate answering some, but some I like
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  Speaker 4: to leave to try.
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  Speaker 2: I've got specific questions for you later, yea.
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  Speaker 3: I Also I also don't enjoy it.
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  Speaker 5: I also don't mean that in a negative way, Angela,
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  Speaker 5: these are these are awesome questions.
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  Speaker 1: I love you. I love these questions. Great. But but
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  Speaker 1: but but but like.
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  Speaker 5: That but yeah, like seeing like like like, uh, it's amazing, honestly,
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  Speaker 5: Like it's like multi generational now, like you know, like
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  Speaker 5: you know, uh, mothers and fathers bringing their bringing their kids,
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  Speaker 5: you know, growing up with the freaking impeccable awesome taste
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  Speaker 5: of music right and like these kids are like cool
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  Speaker 5: as fuck, you know what I mean, Like you know
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  Speaker 5: that you know, bringing that their like their twelve year
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  Speaker 5: old kids who are just like they're like, no, I'm
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: into like punk rock, man, No, punk rock, punk rock,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Which is like for for
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: a lot of like young young people, this type of
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: this this genre of like punk rock, it's not it's
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  Speaker 5: not like experiencing it's it's heyday right now, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's not like it's like it's.
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  Speaker 5: More like metal is it is, like you know, where
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  Speaker 5: whereas when I was like fourteen, it was more like
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  Speaker 5: the punk stuff and now now now it's it's it's different.
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  Speaker 5: So that to me is kind of like even more
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  Speaker 5: special these seeing so many young people like coming out
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  Speaker 5: to our shows, it's it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like super proud of it, and like, I know
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  Speaker 5: I made the old guy joke, but nah, I don't
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  Speaker 5: feel old at all, like I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's just cool as shit.
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  Speaker 5: Like you know, it's like a family thing and it's
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  Speaker 5: a multi generational thing. Very proud that we could be
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  Speaker 5: a band like that for you know, for families, you.
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  Speaker 2: Should be you should be. What's something fans would be surprised,
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  Speaker 2: you know about the band on tour from when you
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: first started to now?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe oh man, uh surprised to.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're all a bunch of sweeties, you know,
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  Speaker 4: my might talk of me and Walker whatever. You know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: look rough and rugged and you know, talk a lot
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  Speaker 4: of smack. But no, they're such great people and I
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  Speaker 4: don't think people would be surprised. People know that they
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised, you know. So, but I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't really have there there were no you know,
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  Speaker 4: I've known them for twenty years, so it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like i've but I've certainly grown to know
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  Speaker 4: them a lot more lately.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: That's a hard question. But I'm gonna go with that
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: one because it's a nice one.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: That is a nice one.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: It's true, it's very true.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Like they be, they are always buds, but now they're
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: total family.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, like the brothers. You know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: a bunch of brothers.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: And I've read that you guys play about two hundred
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: and fifty plus shows a year. That is wild. How
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: do you guys keep up with that intensity without burning out?
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Two hundred and fifty oh if it's quite that much
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: now now, at one point, it was for many For
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: many years, we were out like eight or nine, eight
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: or nine months out of the year for a good
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: clip there. Yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But these days, these days we kind of keep it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: We keep it, you know, guy like no, no, you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: guys have families and stuff. You know, It's like Nun
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Nuno has a son, Brixton just turned thirteen, and you
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: know Nick, Nick has a family.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: He's gonna he's got a step son and stuff.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: So like they try to cap we've been trying to
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: cap the tourist to like three weeks, whereas me and
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: me and Ben just.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Want to hit the road, hit it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Let's just stay, let's just keep rocking, Let's go from
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: continent to continent.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, on a busy year these days, I think we do, like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: you know, we probably do like six months maybe of
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: touring on a busy year.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Like it's still a lot, it's still a lot, but.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: It flies by because, like Trevor said, it will be
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: two weeks here and then home for a month, three
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: weeks here, you know, a month in Europe, but then
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: home for two months and then so you get a
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: nice balance of you know, and we all do stuff outside,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: you know, Trevor Kord's bands in his studio there.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I run a label out of this.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: But you know, so we have stuff to fill our
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: time and make money with at home and stuff.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it works that nice.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah about kind of managing the time and manage managing managing,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: managing your schedule, you know, and just being like, Okay,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: well we're gonna be we're gonna be home for this
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: small group of time and then we have this. But
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: also like the way that music works and everything like
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: and has happened with us, like some of our best
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: opportunities have just like popped up, seemingly popped.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Up out of nowhere.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: You know, so like we always have to have room
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: for that. So it's always an adventure every year.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And the text message.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Group see everybody's like reactions like oh how about this idea,
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: It's like, oh, well I'm thinking of this, I'm thinking that.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: It's like, well, I'm thinking I'm thinking of using you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: some some colorful language to like vent your feelings right now,
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: because we should be doing this ship you know.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's almost the group chat must be wild.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: It's a fun time. It's a fun time.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, the will helped group chat pops off.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: We have like we have several of them. We have
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: like different ones.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Every time. Yeah, that's wicked. And from what we've heard
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: in Midnight Ghosts and Let It Ride, it feels like
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you guys are balancing the classic a WS intensity with
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: some new ideas. What were you excited to push or
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: challenge yourselves with this time around?
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Oh that's cool. It that with Midnight Ghosts, a big
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: new thing was Ben joining the band, and that was
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: like the first song I think we all wrote together,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: like Ben, myself and Brian. It started off with Brian's
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: like bass riff, that kind of chorus riff that kind
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: of like kicks off the song and it kind of
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: like bookends the.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Song and is in the middle. It's the final countdown
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: of like pace parts.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I played at the beginning of the set, at the
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: end of the set, but then the next part that
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: comes in.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It was just like okay, who's next. Ben jumped in.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Ben jumped in with the beginning, and.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Then I came in with A and then and then
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: he came in with it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: So like it was like the the the three of
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: us here in the studio all get all getting together guys.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: You know Ben, Ben traveling from from l A and
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Brian traveling from Canada and coming coming here in New Bedford,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: and we just like spent hours doing it. So like
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: that's like literally like the new like the new thing
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: of the set. And I think just by virtue of
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: all of like the human and is like making it,
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: it became this, you know, when we all add our
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: our five powers together, it ends up sounding like our band. Yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: so we're really excited about like having some fresh stuff,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: you know fresh. You know, we're always searching for like
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: the new fresh cool ship that we could do that's
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: new for us and fun for us.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could Yeah, what do you think.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I hogged part one.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't want I told myself I didn't want to
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: hog part two.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Go band, I'm gonna mute myself.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: No, I don't want to hog anything because I'm the
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: new guy and fans don't want too much of the
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: new guy. But thank you, but uh, but no, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: think it was like a band across six you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: six full length records. Now you know, there's ebbs and
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: flows of intensity or shred, you know what I mean.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: It's like Mute Print was on a one to ten,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: like you know, maybe a seven or eight of it intensity,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and then Ruiners got songs that are out of ten,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: but then songs that are like a four, that are
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: like indie rock song, and you know, fans forget that
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: sometimes like the band has almost gone emo in certain
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: party you know what I mean, old school emo, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and then you get career Suicide, which is like opposite
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: just balls to the wall and you know, and party crashes,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: a hybrid loser delusions, more kind of sincere and a
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: little more you know rock just like you know, slower
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: tempos here and there not as many super fast songs,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: and so it's just natural for a band to kind
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: of you know, it's nice that Wilhelms has so many
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: tricks in their bag in our bag that we can like,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: you know, never get tired of a certain sound and
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: and and when we revisit certain kinds of parts in
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: certain moods, it feels fresh again.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And because we didn't do.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Six albums of just Career Suicide or just you know
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: so yeah, but with this one, there was a renewed
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: you know, just there was an energy of you know, ferocity.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Let's let's go everyone's asses with this next one. Let's like,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: you know, let's uh yeah, let's be sarcastic, let's get
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: real cynical again. Let's you know, yeah, the riffs match it,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: and you know, they kind of came together at the
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: same time naturally.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So it sounds like you like can borrow from all
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: of your old sounds because you've got such a library
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: there of different genres and sounds, but then also make
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: something new that sounds new.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And the Common Threat tour was stacked, touring with bands
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: like Hot Water Music and Joyce man I push you
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: guys creatively at all.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: That was a really fun tour.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: That tour was sick.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: It was awesome getting to uh share the stage with
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: like in like bands like Defeat, you know, like you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: like we don't really get to like play with a
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: lot of bands like that have that like you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: that kind of sound, and uh yeah, it was wonderful
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: and inspiring tour to be on with all of these
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: great bands, like just seeing you know, like we're we
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: love hot Water Music and you know they've taken us
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: on tour. I mean they're continuing to take us on
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: tour this year, you know, like or you know or
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: or like you know recently, I should say, and like
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: seeing them is just like and then with Chris Creswell too,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, Jesus, Jesus, Like with Chris playing like now,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: it's like continues to continue to inspire us, just like
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: they did way back in the day, you know when
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: when we were when we were nineteen years old and
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: they played down the street from here, you know, on
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: tour randomly, you know, no one wore a.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Shirt that shows.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: There was no everyone had their shirt off in that
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: in that small like VF like Alcoholics, Anonymous Recovery set Reflections,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: they had like amazing shows like hardcore bands, you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: like lots of classic ones, you know what I mean.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Like and it's like the size of this room honestly,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like this place.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Was super tiny.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: But like you know, bands like Great and Ink and
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Dagger and you know, like the list goes on and on,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: like Bane, like every every converge of every band has
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: played like Reflections for a while while it was around,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: and uh yeah, hot Water Music was one of those bands.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: It was like the obvious band from Florida that just
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: kind of came up and you know they maybe they
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: had I think they had like maybe two records.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Out on No Idea at the time.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and seeing a band like that was like Megan's
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: mega inspiring, the passion that they just put into it,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: freaking every freaking little second of this of this of
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: the show that was instilled in all of us, that
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: affected all of us.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: In a major way.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: And like you know, I expected, you know, in in
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: a major way too, Like as a guy like singing
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: in that that type of of you know, that singing
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Chuck's like Chuck and Chris's singing style was hugely influential
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I think on like Nuno and like the development of
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: his voice in Nuno's own sound that is you know
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: now you know there's only one nun you know, like.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: He developed his own sound over time.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: But that was I Yeah, so playing our Common Thread
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: and seeing all these bands that are that that are
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: like post hardcore and like hardcore hardcore adjacent and like Emo.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: In the in the in the in the in.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: The way that I remember Emo being when I was
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: like younger, those bands it was more of like it
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: was more indie rock, you know, and just like the
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Emo came from the subject matter of the material, not
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: really like the sound of the voice or whatever.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Right, So.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Very cool to be fining all those bands, you know. Yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: so like, yeah, we made a lot of friends on
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: that tour, right.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Ben, Yeah, it was. It was a homie fest for sure.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: It was so fun.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you know, so many of those bands have
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: been you know, our DNA in some way or another,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: like hot Water, you know, Strike Anywhere, all these bands
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: that from back then, you know and still doing it still,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: you know, ripping and also an opportunity to like that
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: was a unique tour that went so well. Shout out
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: to Common Thread Tour. But like, yeah, you know, I
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: love Tiger's jaw. I don't know in what world, Wilhelm
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: would be able to tour a Tiger's Jaw outside of
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: like a really unique combination mini festival thing like that,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: And the same goes for heavier bands like Modern Life
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: is War so cool. I've been listening to them for
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: a long time and so yeah, it was an eclectic
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: group and it's inspiring to be around. All those bands
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: are awesome bands.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that line up in particular, it's like
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: you guys are the pioneers of the genre without a
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: name sort of thing like but the same sort of
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: that is so awesome to know that you guys go
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: way back as well.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm with them.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. And Trevor, you've said that every album might
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: be the last. Does that mindset change how you write
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: or record?
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I I We're always trying to Uh. We always
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: draw like we're not like jocks by nature, but we
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: always use.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Like sports analogies for this kind of thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: We always leave it on the court, like whether it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: like our live show or like the songs that were
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: like making or like the the extent that we of
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: you know, what we put ourselves through and here to
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: get the takes, you know, like that we know that
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: we are deep down or capable of. And so yeah, yeah,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: so like we basically we just put our we just
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: put our all into it, you know.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And and like we're never really.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: You know, we're always searching for you know, you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: like I'm already thinking about the next things that we
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: can improve upon in the in the recording aspect, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: like the technical technically speaking and stuff like that, so
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: and and and everything, And we're always kind of searching
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: for that next thing. Like like the the guys in
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: the Descendants, like Bill Bill had a would always you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: we talk about this like a lot.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: He would.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: They always had them that kind of mindset Like no,
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: they're they call it all, you know, they're going for all,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: and all means also they're going for how can we
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: improve our live show? You know, oh, how can we
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: step up? How can we how can we step up?
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Like like in it like in a technical way, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: mean like like not like performance wise like they do,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: you know, they do the thing, but it's more like, oh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: how can you know, Oh how about that, what's the
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: next microphone that can sound that much better? Okay, what's
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: the next like always like put like putting challenges you
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: know ll like Hell's hills to climb, you know what
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, And like that's where the juice is right there.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, whether you're writing songs or like you're recording
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: songs or like you know, touring on songs, playing shows,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Like we do have that hunger that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: We're always trying to get better.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: We're just always trying to get better, like and there
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: is no best or whatever, you know, Like it's just
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: like we're just trying to get better. You know, how
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: can we step it up? Because like if we get better,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: it's more fun, you know, And it's all about having
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: continuing to have more fun. You know. Having a pride
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: in something is fun. Feeling like you kick ass in
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: something is fucking fun, you know what I mean. And
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: it's a good addiction to have, you know, it's a
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: fucking really good addiction to have, so that I feel
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: like like I always like pushing that even you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: like Ben has that same fucking fire, you know, Like
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: so that's why he like fits right in with it
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: with us, you know what I mean.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I think it's so important to have,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: sorry Ben, to have that mindset of like Kate aiming
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: for more, especially as a band obviously. You know, if
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: you think you've already done your best stuff, then why
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: keep going?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: You know, That's what I think.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, you got to have a pride in what
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: you're doing and always try to, you know, push yourself.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: And I think you see a lot of bands get
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: complacent and comfortable, you know what I mean, and and
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: sometimes they look miserable on the road, you know what
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, or at a festival, and I'm sure all
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: our minds go, hey, there's a lot higher paying jobs
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: if you want to sit around and be miserable.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Can I take yet?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: So you always got to be grateful and keep your
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: feet grounded, and you know, stay inspired, stay students of
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: the game, you know.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Definitely love that. And last question, what do you hope
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the band represents?
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Now that's a good question. I could take a swing
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: at it. Yeah you want, I mean to me.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: You know, the question is what do we feel like
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: we represent or what we want to represent?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you hope the band represents?
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: I mean I think I hope it represents like a
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: dedication of the spirit, you know what I mean, like
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: never giving up. You know, we're not rock stars, but
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: we love our lives and we love what we get
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: to do, you know, and our fans love us and
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: they're very special and they stick with us. And so
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I think for me, I'd like to represent like you
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: could always depend on Willholm, you know what I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Like as long as we're around, you got us to
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: keep it real and uh, you know, so yeah, I
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: mean I think I would sum it up that way maybe,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: and also just ye.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: In a musical way too, just like be true to yourselves.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: You know that's kind of a corny sounding thing.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: But having my objective, more objective perspective joining the band,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: a lot of my previous questions about Wilhelm, like became
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: clearer and answered to me because I see how they
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: work and how much they love each other and how
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: you know, and and how much they're free to express
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: themselves and no ideas get shot down like that, you
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, and and all these things and
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: that's that's what leads to longevity and stuff.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: And that I learned that joining the band. It's it
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: became clear to me.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: And so you know, like I said, yeah, just a
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: dedication to what you do, like don't lose sight because
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: there's like most, Like most bands, there's many moments along
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: the road where it's easy to go, fuck, I'm out,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: fuck this this is this is taking everything out of me.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: But you know, to not give up. Yeah, that's what
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: That's what I hope we represent, you know.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Fact well put Ben, thanks, couldn't have said that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I better myself. I think it was the second coffee, yeah, true.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to say thank you, thank you
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: to the thank you the fans for uh freaking getting
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: keeping getting behind us for you know, whenever we come
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: out with something new, like like the response to like
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Midnight Ghosts just you know, bust you know, busting out
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: with it like like that blew our freaking minds. Man,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Like I'm not gonna like trip, you know, like I like,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: I like it was like so like we're very lucky.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: So I just want to Yeah, I just want to
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: give a shout out to the fans for like, you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: like we definitely made this record with with all of
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: you in mind, you know what I mean, And it
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: was made with a lot of like a lot of passion,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: you know, and you know which which we always do.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: So like, you know, I can't wait to see all
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: you guys at the shows, at the shows in Australia,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: rocking out with some fucking killer bands, like some buds
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: you know, like The Decline and Authority Zeros on the
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: show with us and knife Hands is on is on
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: it on some gigs, so like, yeah, we can't wait
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: to get to get back over there and rock out
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: with you guys. It's like one of our absolute favorite
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: places to play on the planet. So thank you so
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: much Angela for for for talking to us, and thank
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: you Heavy Mag and a thank you.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Can't we can we can't.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: We can't wait to go kick some ass over there.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're so excited for Thank you for being
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: so lovely