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- 0:00Today we're gonna be talking about red tide.
- 0:02And I know it's it's a tough battle.
- 0:04You may not know what red tide is.
- 0:06You've probably heard a lot of the things,
- 0:07but I'm just gonna get a a bit of a summary from someone I spoke to recently.
- 0:12Actually it was Monday's episode with Adam Langley.
- 0:14He said one time he was on the beach and him and his wife are on the beach,
- 0:17and all of a sudden, you know,
- 0:19without any warning, people were just starting to like,
- 0:20you know, you didn't really smell anything,
- 0:22but suddenly people started to cough around them.
- 0:24And people like grabbing their towels and just kind of leaving the area.
- 0:29And and they didn't really know what it was at the time.
- 0:31They just thought, hey, like if everybody's coughing,
- 0:33it's not just one particular individual,
- 0:35it's it's a a number of different individuals.
- 0:38And then more and more people are starting to cough.
- 0:40It's not necessarily that they have asthma.
- 0:41Probably people who have asthma probably feel it a little bit more,
- 0:43obviously, than others. But then you start to cough you're like,
- 0:45something's not right. Like it doesn't smell of anything,
- 0:48but there's something that's affecting my breathing,
- 0:50and I'm not gonna stay in this area.
- 0:52So I'm gonna leave the beach. Beautiful day on the beach.
- 0:54I'm gonna leave it and I'm gonna get out of there,
- 0:56maybe call the authorities, be like something is going on.
- 0:59That's red tide. And a lot of times it's not it's not random.
- 1:02It can be trackable. And there's actually a free tool that you can tell that
- 1:05can tell you before it even happens,
- 1:07and before you even leave the house.
- 1:09So you don't have to go through that and you don't have to worry about going
- 1:13on the beach when there's a red tide.
- 1:15We're gonna talk all about what a red tide is,
- 1:17why you should know about it, and that the fact is that people are doing
- 1:21a lot of work to stop it from happening.
- 1:23And there is a way to stop it from happening more often.
- 1:28than it has and I think that's the that's the important part of
- 1:31of where we're talking about here.
- 1:33Because when we hear red tide or what what scientists called harmful algal blooms
- 1:38or habs, we see this happening on a regular basis,
- 1:42Because there is a specific algae called carinia brevis,
- 1:46and it blooms in warm coastal waters and produces a toxin known as brevitoxin,
- 1:53which is the toxin that you're pro like that people are probably
- 1:56Smelling in the air. You know,
- 1:58the wind and the waves, they carry that toxin into the air,
- 2:01which is why you start coughing on the beach with no visible sign that that really
- 2:06there's anything wrong, other than people coughing on the beach when nobody should
- 2:10be, Because that's not a normal thing that happens.
- 2:12Now it's worse for people with asthma or any kind of respiratory conditions,
- 2:15but it can affect anyone standing close enough to the water or even in the water,
- 2:20Now, in 2018 to 2019, the numbers like were huge.
- 2:25And the losses were huge. They lost $2.7 billion over
- 2:30a year of disruption, To it, and and that is not something that became like
- 2:37a rare occurrence like it normally did,
- 2:39but it's it's something that's really,
- 2:42really bad. why is this happening more often than not?
- 2:46Carina Brevis, this this algae is naturally occurring in the Gulf of Mexico
- 2:52in the Atlantic.
- 2:53And in between 2017 and 2019, the southwest and southeast parts of Florida were
- 2:59hit pretty much the worst they've ever been hit before.
- 3:01Now, there have to be specific conditions for Karina Brevis
- 3:07to really become overpopulated,
- 3:10which which makes the red tide.
- 3:12You'll see start to see in the water a little bit of a reddish tint color,
- 3:16like a tan color or a rust color in the water.
- 3:19But for sometimes it's really difficult to tell until it's too late.
- 3:22Or until you start to feel that.
- 3:24Now, here's the thing. There needs to be like the right amount of wind
- 3:28to bring the like a lot of Karina brevis together to create the red tide.
- 3:34There needs to be heat in the water to I guess be hospitable
- 3:40to the Karina brevist because it needs heat.
- 3:42Heat is is helpful. But then it needs something else which can be controlled.
- 3:47And we talked about it yesterday's episode and we talked about it the day before.
- 3:51It's all about nutrients. There's specific nutrients that when fed to phytoplankton,
- 3:57which is what these carina brevis are,
- 3:59they will bloom like crazy. And if you get the right amount of mix of
- 4:04all three C sub C temperature,
- 4:06wind that brings them all together,
- 4:08and then feed them nutrients, you get a massive red tide.
- 4:12If that happens over and over and over again,
- 4:15so we we know we've seen high temperatures.
- 4:19We know the winds are kind of gathering a little bit.
- 4:22And we know nutrients in Florida over the past five years,
- 4:28maybe more, probably eight to ten years,
- 4:30have been flowing into the river systems a lot more.
- 4:35Right. So I want to just kind of give you a picture of essentially what's happening,
- 4:40So the bloom has always been there,
- 4:43but it's the freshwater discharges that come down from the Casalahache River.
- 4:48In Florida, carrying like decades of nitrogen phosphorus from
- 4:52the Kissimmee Basin and Lake Okeechobee.
- 4:54I always say Okechibi, but it's Okeechobee.
- 4:57And that's what we know happens.
- 4:59So all that nitrogen phosphorus,
- 5:01which are the nutrients that help animal or plants' cells grow,
- 5:05like these plankton, these these phytoplankton,
- 5:08So you follow from Lake Okeechobee,
- 5:11And you know that.
- 5:13It there's nutrients in there because there's a lot of industry along that area,
- 5:17And that industry, even below it and above it,
- 5:21dumps their waste, like we talked a little bit yesterday.
- 5:25And for a while, that waste had to meet a certain number.
- 5:29And that number has now changed to best practices.
- 5:34So instead of hitting a certain,
- 5:36like you have to be below a certain number in nitrogen,
- 5:38so ammonia, nitrate, nitrite.
- 5:41And phosphorus, now you can pretty much put it whatever you want and say,
- 5:46hey, we're following best practices.
- 5:48We know companies, and there's a lot of sugar companies that like
- 5:51big sugars known in Florida. There's a lot of sugar companies out there,
- 5:54and we know that they're very important to Florida's economy,
- 5:57but they will try and get away with pretty much anything.
- 6:01Right. And so the fact is,
- 6:05is that once the state said, hey,
- 6:06best manager practices is great,
- 6:09you know, the
- 6:11Difference in the phosphorus amounts,
- 6:14where before when there was regulation,
- 6:17they were at about 25, Legal minimum.
- 6:19And they grew to about 55%. So that's there's a there's a difference there,
- 6:25There's a a huge difference in the numbers.
- 6:29So phosphorus grew ~ in availability,
- 6:32nitrogen grew in availability.
- 6:36And then what happens is because Lake Okeechobee is dammed,
- 6:40once the spring rains come, it will eventually fill up.
- 6:45And managers, water water managers,
- 6:48have to release this water that is full of excess phosphorus
- 6:54and ex excess nitrogen. So then it'll grow down the Kissmi Basin
- 6:58and it'll it'll flow down the Kalo Sachi River and it'll go into the Gulf
- 7:03of Mexico or the Atlantic.
- 7:05Right, so these are the southwest Gulf of Mexico,
- 7:08Southeast Atlantic areas. And then what happens as those nutrients feed those Carina
- 7:14bevis, like these red tide forming plant plant cells,
- 7:18you get a red tide.
- 7:22the fact is that because the nitrogen and phosphorus,
- 7:25aren't meeting what was met before,
- 7:27we are getting more red tides because there's increased cease temperature
- 7:32and the winds are changing a lot more and they're a lot stronger.
- 7:35So they bring this phytoplankton in,
- 7:38which is naturally occurring. They just bring them into groups where
- 7:41you get to that, And I think this is where I keep telling people that
- 7:47we can control.
- 7:49The amount of times we get red tide by controlling what feeds them.
- 7:53We can't necessarily control sea temperature at this point unless
- 7:58we reduce our carbon and greenhouse gas output,
- 8:02which is obviously a lot harder than ever.
- 8:04But nitrogen can be controlled locally or by state.
- 8:08That can be controlled. I've worked in environmental consulting before.
- 8:13I worked in with a wastewater company where we
- 8:16looked, we would do measurements to make sure that they're following
- 8:18the regulations. And it would be,
- 8:20you know, provincial or state and federal that would be looking at these
- 8:24and they would be reviewing them to make sure they're under.
- 8:26And if they go above, you know,
- 8:27they the government works with them to say,
- 8:29hey, you need to keep this down because they had to follow the law.
- 8:32That was part of the regulation.
- 8:33So I think that the thing is here where everybody's like,
- 8:36well, we get more red tide. Like we're seeing,
- 8:38you know, the coast of Florida at a certain times like disgusting
- 8:41and there's there's dead animals everywhere and sometimes sea turtles
- 8:45and
- 8:45And manatees and dolphins and and fish everywhere.
- 8:48They're just dead. It's disgusting.
- 8:50It's gross. I'm never, I don't want to go there.
- 8:51How we can't even control this.
- 8:53We can control it. That's the funny thing.
- 8:55It's not a random thing, It's not a mystery that strikes without a pattern.
- 8:59Like we know what's happening.
- 9:01We know how to stop it. We know how to starve this animal from growing
- 9:06to a point where it becomes a red tide.
- 9:08And I think that's the big turn in this story.
- 9:11That's the thing that.
- 9:12can help us bring the red tide anxiety down a little bit.
- 9:16I know it helps me because I know what needs to be done.
- 9:18Right. I know that if we start to get governments on point and say,
- 9:25hey, we need to protect our coastlines,
- 9:28our water quality is going to crap because we haven't been holding companies
- 9:33and industries who who put out this stuff.
- 9:36And it's not necessarily like it's bad stuff.
- 9:38Like they provide products that we use.
- 9:40So it's it's hard to say that we're against them.
- 9:42I don't want to vilify them, but we need to make sure that they their point sources
- 9:46that come out have to fall with it below a number.
- 9:49And that's where these wastewater engineers kind of do all this modeling
- 9:52to make sure that if everybody stays within a certain range,
- 9:55then our system will be fine. That's all it takes.
- 9:59It's money, yes. It's money worth spending,
- 10:02I guarantee you. I think that's where.
- 10:05A lot of people just don't realize that it's this is what happens.
- 10:09this is how we change. And I think if you go back to yesterday,
- 10:16where the red tide is like the the dramatic visible symptom of that same excess
- 10:21nitrogen story that we talked about what I talked about,
- 10:24how coastal environments, coastal habitats like mangroves,
- 10:28marshes are the are nature's kidneys.
- 10:31Healthy coastal wetlands will help filter nitrogen out of the water.
- 10:34But like just to go back to it,
- 10:37the big sugar wanted to remove some Everglades to put in a new plant.
- 10:41The Everglades are that coastal habitat that removes the excess nitrogen.
- 10:46So instead of like emptying right into the Everglades,
- 10:50they empty out into a river system that goes right into the Gulf.
- 10:56Makes no sense. And so there's ways that we can actually figure out
- 11:01how to change our water quality.
- 11:03Now, in the meantime, there is a bloom tracker.
- 11:07There is a red tide bloom tracker.
- 11:09So if you are in Florida or you are in an area where you want to go to the beach,
- 11:12you want to make sure you don't have to be subjected to that.
- 11:14Maybe you have some asthma problems or respiratory problems,
- 11:16or you just don't want to go there when it's going be nasty.
- 11:18There is a beach conditions reporting system that,
- 11:22People have if you're on the Gulf Coast.
- 11:24And so there are ways you can find out.
- 11:26You can just track this. You can look it up.
- 11:27I'll try and look it and put a the link in the show notes that you can find.
- 11:30But for now, you can look at that.
- 11:32But really, like this is where we elect government officials that will promise
- 11:37to make sure they hold industry accountable to ensure that we are
- 11:41not putting excess nitrogen in the water.
- 11:44that's pretty much what it is.
- 11:45We have the
- 11:46knowledge.
- 11:47We have the system to put in place.
- 11:48We have the regulation. It's just a matter of keeping industries
- 11:51to that regulation and not giving them what they want in terms of they don't have
- 11:56to spend extra money on making sure that they can put that into place
- 12:00and they less headache for them.
- 12:02But no, ~ sorry, it's a headache for you,
- 12:05but it's life to us. That's really what it comes down to,
- 12:07Businesses do not run the world.
- 12:09They think they want to, they think they can,
- 12:11but it really is the people. We are the people.
- 12:14We need to hold them accountable through government.
- 12:16Government needs to hold accountable.
- 12:17Elect the people who hold them accountable.
- 12:19That's what we need to do. That's my that's that's my my call to action
- 12:24for you today. ~ and especially in the US where Florida is located,
- 12:28there's a important elections coming up.
- 12:30This is where you make those elections count.
- 12:32I know there's like a bigger picture here for a lot of people from
- 12:35a federal perspective, but think about locally of what's happening to
- 12:38you and make sure that those ~ state,
- 12:42whether they're Senate.
- 12:43Or Congress people, they are looking out for what's local for you and not what's,
- 12:47you know, federally always for the the the overall country that may not
- 12:51be in your interest, Whether you're on one side or the other,
- 12:54this is still nature. This is still where you live.
- 12:57You want to make sure ~ you are living in a healthy coastal area so
- 13:00you can enjoy the coast because that's where you want to live,
- 13:03And that's the beauty about living in places like Florida.
- 13:05So, anyway, that's it for the episode today.
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- 13:31of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 13:33Have a great day. We'll talk to you next time and happy conservation.