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Ep. 53 - You've Got a Friend (NBA Finals Prep, NFL Trades, College Baseball and Softball Tournaments are Electric, Tay Story 5, Olivia Rodrigo Music and Fair or Foul) · The Tortured Fans Department

• 0:22
  Hello, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Tortured Fans Department podcast.
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  As always, I'm your host, Sean Boyle, and joining me today, it's one of our most recurring guests.
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  It's a good friend.
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  It is none other than one of the cousins, the better half, I'll add.
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  It is Mr.
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  Jeremy Good.
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  Jeremy, how are you?
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  Your words, not mine.
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  Sean, I do approve the message.
• 0:45
  Hello, how are you?
• 0:46
  Great to be back.
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  Great to, you know, shed some of the other voices that we've joined on the show.
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  Not that they're not great, but you know, it's great to have one-on-one time.
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  That's right.
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  And it's a laid-back vibe.
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  We've got good weather outside.
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  There's a lot going on, but nothing too serious, nothing too intense.
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  So we're just going to kick back, shoot the shit for a little bit, and talk about sports and then some other topics as we go on.
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  Jeremy, I have to start by just a few housekeeping items.
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  We launched the record club last week, which I'm not sure if you saw, but our first episode was with myself and Ryan Amade, who's been a regular on this program.
• 1:24
  We dove deep into Fleetwood Max rumors.
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  The idea of the Record Club is for all of you, listeners, friends, fans, whatever, to get a chance to come on and talk about a record you are passionate about.
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  So, Jeremy, you will obviously be doing one of these in in the future.
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  I'm interested to know where you're leaning in terms of what album you'll select.
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  Well, I'd have to do some research on some things.
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  I have a diverse portfolio in the music scene.
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  But, you know, right now, right here, if you needed me quickly for something, I'll give you some on the problem, Morgan Wallen.
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  I'll be able to give you a good some good stuff on that.
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  You know, I got I'm also good on uh Bruce Springsteen, The Rising album, one of my favorite albums.
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  I know I think I mentioned this actually on the pod several pods ago, so I could give you some insight on that and some other things as well.
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  But those are the first two hitters that uh, you know, I feel like I could throw some uh inspiration towards the listeners, I guess.
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  Yeah, no, the first one's a veto from we're a strict no Morgan Wallen show.
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  So unfortunately that one's out.
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  Bruce, I'd be happy to have you.
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  I'd be happy to have you.
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  I know you're a Billy Joel guy, too.
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  Maybe we can dive into that catalog a little bit.
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  The Stranger, yeah, that would be great too.
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  Sure.
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  I see I I might know you guys better than you.
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  Probably.
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  Probably, obviously.
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  Also, on the music note, the two of us will be going to the Noah Khan concert together this month now.
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  So big, big stuff happening at the Torture Fans Department.
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  Also, have to plug our Friends on Football podcast, which falls under the Torture Fans umbrella.
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  We are pumping out World Cup previews this week.
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  So please go over to that platform, like, subscribe, leave a comment, leave a review.
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  We would appreciate that.
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  We're putting a lot of work into that this week in the buildup to the World Cup, and then we'll start to shift our focus back over to this channel as the summer goes on.
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  Also, one final reminder: go listen to the cookout draft before the poll is released this week.
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  Jeremy, you took part in this and you provided some great moments.
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  The baked potato clip is doing the rounds on social media.
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  How do you think your draft performance went?
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  Well, I love my draft.
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  I love my team.
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  Every draft I draft, I love.
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  Yeah, it's just it's it's a good, it's a group, good group.
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  I'm confident in them.
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  I think uh if the goal is to draft just like the heavy hitters, the first things you think, maybe my draft isn't for you.
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  Maybe the baked bean lovers are gonna be locked in.
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  I don't know.
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  But uh, and the hot dog people too.
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  That's not the first thing I'd grab, but okay.
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  I I like my draft.
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  I think it's a good, like I said, good array of uh cookout stuff, and uh it really speaks to the mass amount of people out there, so I'm happy.
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  I'm not so sure it's speaking to the masses, but I'm happy that you're happy with it.
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  I think it's gonna be a close ballot.
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  I'll say that.
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  I'm I'm I might lose my first draft ever.
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  So that's something to monitor as as the week progresses.
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  The poll will be released on Thursday, so we'll see.
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  We do know who runs these polls and who can make some strings, you know, you know, can move some things around.
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  So don't be so uh sure that you might not win this one.
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  That's that's all again, alleged, alleged wrongdoings.
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  I don't think those are there's any truth behind them.
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  Jarrell, let's dive into the NBA finals.
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  They begin on Wednesday night.
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  The stage is set for the New York Knicks to take on the San Antonio Spurs.
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  It's an interesting finals.
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  I will say that.
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  I thought for sure that we would get whoever won the Western Conference would be a cakewalk champion, and I don't think that any longer.
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  I think that the Knicks have proven to be a much more formidable opponent than I was giving them credit for.
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  And I think we're in store for a pretty exciting finals.
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  What do you think about the matchup?
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  Yeah, I was pretty locked into the team, whoever came out of the West, regardless if it was OKC, San Antonio.
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  The Knicks have been playing good basketball.
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  They changed things up towards the end of the year where they're running their offense uh through cat at the high post.
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  He's able to dribble, he's able to shoot, he's able to create, and also pass the ball, which is big.
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  That's really worked for the Knicks.
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  I want to give them their credit.
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  They've blown through the playoffs, they swept the Sixers in the second round.
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  They swept Cleveland in the in the Eastern Conference uh finals.
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  They've gone on a run.
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  Give them credit.
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  I still think San Antonio is much better.
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  Uh, they have Wemby, who I think will take over the series.
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  They have a lot of shooters to go with him, they defend like crazy.
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  I don't think it'll be a sweep.
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  I think it'll be maybe six for the Spurs.
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  I thought last year OKC was gonna run away with it against Indiana.
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  It won seven games.
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  Indiana almost won the whole series.
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  So maybe this is kind of similar where the East catches up.
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  I still think the Spurs are a better team, but I think the Knicks are kind of playing with Fool's Gold.
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  They just haven't beaten anyone good in the playoffs.
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  I think the only team that they could have beat that was good is the Celtics.
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  I don't even know how good they were, and of course the Sixers knocked them out.
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  So we'll see.
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  It'll be interesting, exciting.
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  Definitely go Spurs go for sure.
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  I can't handle uh a Knicks championship.
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  I'm with you in terms of my rooting interest, it lies firmly with the Spurs.
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  I do not want a Knicks title for a multitude of reasons, the biggest one being their obnoxious fan base, including some personal friends of ours.
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  I will note I don't think it's fool's gold for the Knicks.
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  I I also don't disagree with your point that the East, it's hard to tell who was good that they beat.
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  Yeah.
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  But the margin in which they're beating teams, I think, is the impressive part.
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  They're not even in basketball games with these, they're just running teams out of the gym in do or die situations, too.
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  So it's been impressive from the Knicks.
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  I do think they've figured something out and unlocked a new level.
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  Whether that will be enough to beat the Spurs will be interesting.
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  I'm a big fan of what I saw from the Spurs team.
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  Just gritty, gritty basketball in that seven game series with the Thunder.
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  They went to OKC in a game seven and they were just a tougher team.
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  When Banyama, you can tell how much it meant to him as a 22-year-old.
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  I mean, that guy, he's an alien, and the fact that he cares like that, in addition to all the physical tools he has, is uh that's scary.
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  So give me the Spurs in seven will be my official pick.
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  I do see it being a good series, and I think you brought up last year's finals as I think it's gonna be similar.
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  Hopefully, there's no Achilles Terror like there was with Tyrese Halburton, which obviously that that played a big role in the finals.
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  Yeah.
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  If there were going to be an Achilles Terror, I don't again, I don't want there to be, but if there were to be, I wouldn't hate for it to be Jalen Brunson's.
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  Yeah, I mean, uh if it ha you know, it if it happens, things happen.
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  That's the game.
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  We don't want we don't want it.
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  We don't want it, but uh yeah, I think of course emotionally I'm picking the Spurs talent-wise, skill-wise, I'm picking the Spurs.
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  I think they might smack the Knicks early on.
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  I don't think the Knicks will ever recover.
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  Maybe they'll win a game or two and they'll kind of make it a series, but like I think the Spurs are just gonna be too overwhelming.
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  And maybe that that's what hurts the Knicks, the fact that like no one really matched up with them in the East, especially defensively, and now they're gonna have a maybe a juggernaut team and the Spurs come their way.
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  It'll be good, it'll be fun.
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  Yeah, it's also two historic brands of basketball.
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  The Knicks having the finals at the Garden for the first time since '99, that's pretty cool.
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  Even if you don't like them, that's an iconic venue.
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  And then the Spurs, I mean, this could be the start of another dynasty, which we saw throughout the 2000s.
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  There's a lot of similarities between Duncan's first appearance and Wembinama's.
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  I hope that maybe we don't see a run quite like that again.
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  It they don't have the legendary coach on their side in this in this version of the team, but boy oh boy, the nucleus that they have and how young they are.
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  It's hard to not see them being in and around the finals almost every year.
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  Yeah, you gotta start somewhere with uh Mitch.
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  Maybe this is a starting point.
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  It's not like the Spurs have had an elite player come from France and just be a poster child for their team for a decade plus.
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  So we haven't seen that strip before, and uh maybe this is the first time we'll see it.
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  And also just the fact that they win the draft lottery when there is a when there is a generational French talent, yeah, it's uncanny.
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  It does help.
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  So we'll be keeping an eye on the NBA Finals.
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  We'll talk more about it as the series progresses.
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  I kind of do hope it's a good series.
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  I don't want to see a sweep or anything in either direction.
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  And I would like to see some close games as well.
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  Yeah, it's one thing for the series to be close, but a lot of times it felt like throughout these NBA playoffs, the series was close, but then each game in the series was a blowout, and we've gotten very few really close good games.
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  So hopefully we at least see some tight action down the stretch.
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  Totally.
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  Let's talk about the NFL, Jeremy.
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  We have a couple of big trades to get to.
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  I guess let's cross off first the one that we've known about for months.
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  The receiving variable trade really was what this one will be remembered for.
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  It is also the AJ Brown deal.
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  Jeremy, talk me through exactly what the trade was, first of all, because I I know it's I think it's a first-round pick, but I don't know when.
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  And then talk me through your thoughts as an Eagles fan.
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  The trade is AJ Brown to New England, of course, for their 2028 first round pick.
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  And 2027 fifth.
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  So it's a first and a fifth.
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  The first comes in two years.
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  Howie won a first from the start.
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  That's great.
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  It's sad for me as an Eagles fan, as an AJ fan, because he's done so much for the team.
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  The Eagles have had their best five, six-year stretch in probably team history.
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  Going to two Super Bowls when he won, AJ was a major part in that.
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  It's sad how things have kind of transpired.
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  It's a tough loss, too, because he's such a dynamic player, such a great player.
• 11:08
  These are the types of players that teams want to trade for.
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  I think that we get what gets lost in the sauce is these are the players that good teams that want to be great want to trade for, but they don't originally have.
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  And the Eagles are worse off for it right now, at least.
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  In the future, we'll see how they'll bounce back, but they're definitely a worse team off now.
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  I think the compensation is a little light.
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  Jalen Waddell went for a first, a third, and a fourth round pick swap.
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  He's a year younger.
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  AJ Brown, and and I've Jalen Waddell is one of my guys, roll tied.
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  But he's nowhere close to AJ Brown.
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  DJ Moore went for a second round pick who's older than AJ Brown.
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  Nowhere, nice, nice player.
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  Nowhere close to AJ Brown.
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  So I think that the compensation's a little light.
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  I think they wanted to get this deal done to move on officially.
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  Just unfortunate.
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  And uh now for the Eagles, they move on, and we see how they adjust with Devontae Smith, rookie Mikhail Lemon, Wicks, and uh yeah, we'll see.
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  It's a new kind of feels like a new era in Philadelphia football.
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  So big move for both teams in their own way.
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  I think from an on-the-field standpoint, there certainly is something to be said that the Eagles did get worse.
• 12:23
  I agree.
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  It's hard to argue.
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  AJ Brown is physically just one of the best receivers in the NFL.
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  He's imposing, he's immediately somebody you have to game plan around.
• 12:31
  I also think that there might be a bit of levity in the locker room now.
• 12:37
  There always just seemed to be, at least more recently in the last couple of seasons, I would say, there always just seemed to be something percolating around AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts, or just around AJ Brown himself, like in his orbit when he's reading a book on the sidelines, or cryptic messages post-game, just typical wide receiver one diva shit, which which we've seen a million times throughout the NFL.
• 12:59
  There's every all these wide receiver ones have that ego, that diva mentality at times.
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  And AJ, I would say he was moody for the last year.
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  And even his comments since he got to New England, he's been there for a cup of coffee, and he's already saying how this was his dream and this is his home, and he's had a Patriots rug in his house, even though when he was on the Eagles, it's like, okay, AJ, enough's enough.
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  And that's not exactly commendable that you're just a Patriots fan because they won a lot when you were younger.
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  So I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
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  And my guy, Devontae Smith, now gets a chance to be the number one.
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  I've always been a big Smitty guy.
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  I'm happy for him.
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  I do think the Eagles are a little bit worse off, but it might be in some ways addition by subtraction, just getting off of that contract, getting the bad vibes out of the locker room.
• 13:43
  They eat a lot cap-wise in the in dead cap 27 million.
• 13:48
  They still have cash that they're able to give out decently.
• 13:53
  Maybe this move allows them to pay for their young defense that they're gonna have to pay.
• 13:57
  So in the next few years, hopefully it frees up some things, and it'll be interesting how they adjust uh now immediately going to this season.
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  And one thing also to watch as the season progresses will be I don't know if it's necessarily fair, but people will be comparing how Jalen Hurts performs to how AJ Brown performs.
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  That's just gonna be natural.
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  So I know it's it's gonna be an interesting season for Eagles supporters because it's kind of make or break in some ways for just what level of good Jalen Hurts is.
• 14:27
  Is he elite or is he good?
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  And I think now we're gonna get a really good, we're gonna get a good sample size of what he is.
• 14:34
  That's a great point, Sean.
• 14:36
  There's always something going on in Philadelphia when the team's 14 and 3, when the team's 7 and 10.
• 14:41
  It does, it's it just depends on the mood and the record, but it's always something.
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  And we we will see.
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  Be careful what some people wish for because uh it can go south.
• 14:51
  We've seen it go south here.
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  It's not fun, and uh yeah, so one that's why I've always been one in doubt.
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  Talent, talent, talent.
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  You go for the guys.
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  So it'll be it'll be as a diehard fan, it might not be fun for me, but it'll definitely be revealing to the world to see what happens uh because of this.
• 15:10
  Interesting for sure.
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  A little foreshadowing of where maybe Jeremy thinks Jalen Hurst might might end up.
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  I I will say it's not always sunny in Philadelphia, but it is always something.
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  So that that's a good place to leave the Eagles talk.
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  Yeah, because like you said, AJ, they could be 14 and 3, and that's when he was reading the book on the sidelines.
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  So it's really it's really yeah.
• 15:31
  We'll we'll see how that all plays out.
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  But it is it definitely an interesting storyline in the NFL.
• 15:36
  The biggest storyline in the NFL was the Miles Garrett trade, partially because it involves the defensive player of the year, and also because it came out of nowhere, or at least to the casual fan.
• 15:47
  I don't know that anybody was expecting this.
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  I certainly wasn't, and I would consider myself a casual.
• 15:52
  Miles Garrett joins the Los Angeles Rams.
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  It's going to be the first time in NFL history that the reigning offensive MVP and defensive player of the year are on the same team in the following season.
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  Which, I mean, that bodes well for Rams fans, I think.
• 16:10
  Yeah, if you're trying to win now, I think that's pretty decent to have.
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  I will say the Browns did get a lot in return.
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  I don't think they got anything close to Miles Garrett, who's a once-in-a-generation player.
• 16:22
  Right.
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  But I don't think this would be ridiculous to call this a win-win for both teams.
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  What do you think?
• 16:28
  I would agree.
• 16:29
  I think the return is fine for the Browns.
• 16:31
  They get Verse, they get several draft picks, including a first, second, third, I think.
• 16:36
  Yeah.
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  Maybe a fourth, too.
• 16:37
  That's a good haul.
• 16:38
  I like Verse.
• 16:39
  He's very good.
• 16:39
  He's younger.
• 16:40
  That's great.
• 16:41
  The only thing that I, and of course, if you're the Rams, you're getting one of the best edges and NFL history.
• 16:49
  And he's still in his prime.
• 16:51
  He just broke the record last year for most sacks.
• 16:53
  Wow, what a player.
• 16:55
  The only thing that I don't like about the narrative is like people are like supporting the Browns, like, that's a great haul.
• 17:00
  And it's not like they're gonna win now, so they can wait, but it's like you can't have it both ways.
• 17:05
  If you're not gonna win now, then you're wasting some of Versus youth too.
• 17:09
  So like I get it.
• 17:11
  Like it like Miles Garrett is just better than in Jared Verse.
• 17:17
  Not a bit, not it doesn't, it's not a bad thing.
• 17:19
  Verse is a very good player.
• 17:20
  Garrett's generational, so the picks are nice.
• 17:24
  I get the move that the Browns are making, but like you gotta punish a team like the Browns who are trading a talent like Garrett, who didn't do anything for their team ultimately because their team was never serious, and they still don't have a quarterback, even though they have four who are all young, and none of them are that good.
• 17:39
  Maybe Shador is uh you can develop him.
• 17:42
  I I don't I I don't really see it.
• 17:44
  I'll spoil that one for the listeners.
• 17:46
  He stinks.
• 17:47
  That's that's sort of what I was thinking too, Sean.
• 17:50
  But like, oh my god, like we can't throw a party for the Browns for failing Miles Garrett and then trading him probably a year or two later than they should have, getting a nice return and then saying, Oh, they're back.
• 18:01
  I don't know.
• 18:02
  It's good.
• 18:03
  I agree with you.
• 18:03
  I think it's good for both teams ultimately, but like enough of the parades for the Browns.
• 18:08
  They traded away Miles Garrett.
• 18:11
  Yeah, I do think you made a really good point in that, that they failed Miles Garrett by not surrounding him.
• 18:18
  When you have a player of that caliber, it's it seems like it's a lot easier to build a really good team than it would be to not build a good team when you have a guy who single-handedly disrupts every game, every play that he's on the field.
• 18:30
  And for years, I think he was there nine seasons, for years they wasted his prime.
• 18:35
  He had requested a trade a year ago, and ultimately that wish wasn't granted.
• 18:41
  You know, the restructure, whatever went on behind the scenes.
• 18:44
  He he comes back, he says he's happy, he's content, and then eventually he gets to move a year later.
• 18:49
  I'm sure he's thrilled.
• 18:50
  The biggest winner in all of this is Miles Garrett.
• 18:52
  He gets to go from living in Cleveland, Ohio.
• 18:55
  Michael Collins is one of Michael Collins' six favorite cities, to sunny Los Angeles.
• 19:01
  Yeah.
• 19:02
  Really, really a big upgrade for him.
• 19:05
  Jared Verse, poor guy.
• 19:07
  Yeah, that's brutal for him.
• 19:08
  Oh my god.
• 19:09
  It doesn't get much worse downgrade-wise.
• 19:12
  Now, I will say I'm shitting on Cleveland a little bit.
• 19:14
  Miss Taylor Swift was recently courtside at a game there.
• 19:17
  Travis pulling her down into the mud of New Heights, Ohio.
• 19:21
  Fine, fine.
• 19:22
  Maybe Cleveland's on the rise.
• 19:24
  But yeah, I don't think that this trade gets Cleveland over the hump in any way.
• 19:29
  I guess it's the start of yet another rebuild, but I don't think that's exactly what Browns fans want to hear.
• 19:35
  It's kind of if not now, when?
• 19:37
  If not me, who, that sort of thing.
• 19:39
  When will we be good?
• 19:41
  Yeah.
• 19:42
  I if they had a quarterback, maybe it'd be a young quarterback, maybe it'd be more intriguing.
• 19:47
  I feel bad for Jared Verse.
• 19:49
  Besides leaving LA for Cleveland, obviously, he's going to a team that just has no identity, doesn't have much talent.
• 19:57
  Yeah, they have some pieces here and there, but like they're really like gonna be bad for a little bit and they're gonna rely on the draft picks.
• 20:04
  And it's like you have versus what 25, how many years until they become relevant?
• 20:09
  And then what is he, 28, 29, and then still probably has some good stuff in the tank, but like at that point, he's definitely in his prime, maybe on the other end of his prime.
• 20:18
  So we'll see.
• 20:19
  Again, yeah, I like the return in ways, but like you can't like we can't forget about how good Miles Garrett is.
• 20:26
  It's it's kind of funny how that works.
• 20:28
  And yeah, for the Rams outlook, they're certainly going all in.
• 20:32
  It does make me question their draft strategy to take a quarterback in the first round, which I questioned at the time, so I'm gonna maintain my consistency in that.
• 20:42
  There, they've always been since McVay got there, a team that pushes their chips in every year, which I respect.
• 20:48
  I like owners and teams that do that.
• 20:50
  I hate, I can't stand owners that don't care about winning, which we see a lot in other sports as well.
• 20:55
  It's hard when there's a salary floor, but in baseball, we see it all the time.
• 20:58
  There's owners that just straight up don't care about putting a good product on the field.
• 21:02
  The Rams do try to put a good product on the field each year.
• 21:05
  They don't tank, they don't try to accumulate picks, they go all in.
• 21:08
  I just think it was weird to take a project quarterback in the first round that's going to sit for the next two to three seasons when that's their peak window to win a Super Bowl in these next two to three seasons.
• 21:21
  You're pretty you're pretty spot on that, Sean.
• 21:23
  That pick at 13.
• 21:25
  I I don't have the draft in front of me.
• 21:27
  I'm sure I could find a few guys who could help them immediately right now.
• 21:30
  It just shows too that the Rams don't really prioritize taking first round picks and selecting them.
• 21:35
  They'll trade them and get whoever through trades, which is kind of commendable in that way.
• 21:39
  They won a work a Super Bowl uh few years doing that.
• 21:43
  It gutted kind of their system, but then they bounce back pretty quickly.
• 21:47
  Um, yeah, good.
• 21:48
  They they go all in, and they're probably after this trade the favorites out of the NFC, I'd say.
• 21:55
  Yeah.
• 21:56
  Yeah, on paper, it's hard to pick against the team with arguably the best.
• 22:00
  On offense and defense, but we'll see how the rest of their roster holds up.
• 22:04
  It's not exactly the deepest of teams.
• 22:07
  They're pretty top-loaded with a lot of those positions and talent they have, but they do have an elite coach, and they're certainly a contender in the NFL.
• 22:14
  The NFL finds a way to creep its itself into our conversations, even in the middle of June.
• 22:19
  Somehow, some way it's this league is always near the front of the sports landscape.
• 22:24
  Jarrell, let's take a detour.
• 22:25
  We have a little segment across our desks.
• 22:28
  We've done this before.
• 22:29
  This is just a hodgepodge of things that have made their way across our desk.
• 22:33
  The last sports item we're going to talk about today, I've stumbled into this.
• 22:38
  It wasn't even like I was seeking it.
• 22:41
  But the college baseball and college softball postseason NCAA tournaments, they've been electric from the highlights I've seen, from some of the clips I've seen online.
• 22:50
  Let's start with baseball, a tough one for my Kentucky Wildcats.
• 22:54
  West Virginia won back-to-back games in dramatic fashion to send themselves to Omaha.
• 23:00
  What do you think, just in general, about the baseball side of the NCAA tournament?
• 23:05
  I think the structure of it's pretty cool, and I think Omaha creates a really cool environment.
• 23:09
  I think it's very cool too, Sean.
• 23:12
  I like it.
• 23:12
  It's very passionate.
• 23:14
  I like that they're you always each each, I guess, segment, you're playing to be the home team so you can host.
• 23:22
  That's cool.
• 23:23
  It's a little confusing at first.
• 23:25
  I'm trying to like get like regionals, supers, where's the World Series next?
• 23:30
  Where does that fall?
• 23:31
  Once you pick that up, it's pretty cool.
• 23:33
  I like, you know, to win two games out of three or whatever it is.
• 23:36
  The atmosphere is electric.
• 23:38
  It's amazing that college baseball uses metal bats.
• 23:41
  Some of these hitters are too, most of the hitters are too good for that, I think, but it's kind of cool to see guys with that strength use metal.
• 23:48
  It's great.
• 23:48
  It's a great environment, a lot of passion, a lot of celebrations, a lot of great finishes at the end of the game.
• 23:55
  I know uh your cats had a few uh disappointing ones, but uh but it's pretty cool.
• 24:00
  And it's uh I feel like it's uh glowing up sort of right now at the right time overall.
• 24:05
  Maybe it has been like this for a little bit, but now it really feels uh awesome for sure.
• 24:11
  Yeah, it feels like the last few years there's certainly been a movement of positive direction.
• 24:14
  But I think right now each year continues to build.
• 24:17
  There's been a ton of upsets this year.
• 24:19
  The numbers like one, number number one seed UCLA, number two seed Georgia Tech.
• 24:23
  They've all been bounced.
• 24:24
  I believe like the six, seven seeds are out.
• 24:27
  So it's kind of created madness heading into Omaha, which is exciting.
• 24:31
  But then I have to say, even more exciting than what we've seen on the men's side is the women's side.
• 24:36
  The softball tournament, because of the pace of the game, these games go so quick, they're full of energy.
• 24:43
  I would call them an electric factory.
• 24:45
  And anybody who hasn't tuned into any postseason softball, I think you're missing out.
• 24:50
  We had Texas Tech Mia Williams, who's Jason Williams' daughter, hit a walk-off home run to send Texas Tech over your beloved crimson tide.
• 24:59
  Yeah.
• 25:00
  Exciting stuff, Jeremy.
• 25:01
  You might be a torture fan this week.
• 25:03
  Maybe that's a good uh selection.
• 25:05
  Never want to be too personal with this stuff, but maybe I should uh take the reins on that.
• 25:09
  Softball's great, Sean.
• 25:11
  It is, like you said, it is smaller fields, some smaller dimensions.
• 25:15
  The game flies, a lot of action, really cool.
• 25:19
  Uh I've I've been into the softball since Enrolling in Alabama because they've always had a strong program.
• 25:26
  It's great.
• 25:26
  Uh tough finish for, of course, the Crimson Tide, losing two in a row on the same night to Texas Tech.
• 25:33
  Very good team, though, uh, in Texas Tech, of course.
• 25:36
  But softball's great.
• 25:37
  They they have they they really have something good going with baseball, it seems like, right now, um, where there's a lot of passion, a lot of fans, a lot of people getting into it that probably wouldn't have beforehand.
• 25:48
  I don't know what what what that reason is, but I mean it's strong competition, great softball play, so maybe maybe that's what uh what's doing it.
• 25:58
  Just just the overall talent, maybe.
• 26:00
  Yeah, and now we have the final two teams standing on the women's side.
• 26:04
  We have Texas and Texas Tech.
• 26:07
  That is a best of three series happening in Oklahoma City, and they start on Wednesday, June 3rd.
• 26:13
  So as you're listening to this episode, the night the night of the first game is Wednesday.
• 26:18
  Three-game series, two teams that absolutely hate each other.
• 26:20
  Texas and Texas Tech are bitter rivals.
• 26:23
  Specifically, Texas Tech really can't stand Texas.
• 26:25
  It seems like all the schools in Texas that aren't UT have a real problem with the UT.
• 26:30
  So that'll be exciting.
• 26:32
  I I'm gonna try my best to tune in for a little bit of that.
• 26:35
  Yeah, me too.
• 26:36
  That'll be fun.
• 26:37
  Short series too, which I think makes it uh cooler for a finish and more uh you can lock in instead of a long, dragged-out seven-game series.
• 26:44
  Although maybe that would be good with the way the sear the sport's going, maybe it wouldn't be that bad.
• 26:49
  Yeah, maybe we could build the five, but it does create now in the moment a real action-packed.
• 26:55
  You you feel like if you lose one, you're in a real pickle.
• 27:00
  That's right.
• 27:01
  So let's talk about some non-sports topics, Jeremy.
• 27:04
  Some of the biggest news, at least on my desk this week, was Miss Taylor Swift.
• 27:09
  She's back in the headlines.
• 27:11
  Not only is she sitting courtside for Cleveland Cavalier's blowouts, she is dropping new songs for Toy Story 5.
• 27:19
  They're calling it Tay Story.
• 27:21
  They've the game is gone.
• 27:23
  They have completely done, they've rolled this out as if it was her next studio album.
• 27:29
  It is just going to be a new single that she is contributing to the movie, which of course I'm excited to hear.
• 27:36
  And it was produced with Jack Antinoff.
• 27:38
  So good news for me.
• 27:40
  And there's also rumors, Jeremy, this might be her return to country.
• 27:44
  That would be cool.
• 27:45
  I'm excited about this.
• 27:46
  This is iconic for Taylor.
• 27:48
  This is great for her.
• 27:49
  Getting a song in an original movie like Toy Story is sort of what I it's a big deal, of course.
• 27:56
  I would love her to do a cover of You've Got a Friend in Me as well.
• 28:00
  That's a hopeful wish.
• 28:02
  I don't know if that's in the cards, in the plans.
• 28:04
  That would be very cool if she did that.
• 28:06
  My goodness, that would be awesome.
• 28:08
  But I'm excited for the single.
• 28:09
  Great for her.
• 28:10
  Uh, great for her career, of course.
• 28:12
  Not that she really needs to boost her career, but it's just different.
• 28:15
  It's more versatility, more new stuff like this to add to the resume, the repertoire.
• 28:21
  Uh, so that's awesome.
• 28:23
  Yeah, it feels like Taylor Swift Disney Pixar, they go hand in hand.
• 28:27
  It feels like they're it was a match made in heaven.
• 28:29
  So again, I'm I'm here for all new Taylor Swift music, so I will be seated when this one comes out.
• 28:36
  I just I don't love that the song title is stolen from Gracie Abrams.
• 28:40
  Now, also on the music front, another pop girl.
• 28:43
  Jarrell, let me ask you your thoughts on Olivia Rodrigo.
• 28:45
  And I'll go first in saying that I've never really been a fan, and it's weird because she usually fits what people associate my music taste to be.
• 28:55
  I'm a pop, I'm a big fan of the pop girlies.
• 28:58
  I just have never really clicked with Olivia Rodrigo's music.
• 29:02
  It's all felt a bit immature for me, which makes sense as I'm older than she is, so it's kind of felt like, yeah, it's not necessarily for me.
• 29:10
  Not saying it was bad, but I just the second album in particular just wasn't a fan.
• 29:14
  She has a new album coming out in just under two weeks.
• 29:17
  She's released two singles called The Cure and Drop Dead.
• 29:20
  Before you give me your thoughts on the songs, Jared, what do you think about her in general?
• 29:25
  I like her.
• 29:27
  She isn't a go-to for me.
• 29:29
  I appreciate what she brings to the table and think she's very talented.
• 29:34
  Again, kind of like what you said, Sean.
• 29:36
  It's not my cup of tea, it's not my go-to.
• 29:39
  But if I spent more time with it, I'd probably like her a little more.
• 29:44
  It's nothing really against the music too much.
• 29:47
  It's just like, yeah, it's kind of some of the titles like drop dead.
• 29:51
  It's like everything's so like aggressive.
• 29:54
  And but like she's good, like when Driver's License came out, I go, wow, this is an amazing.
• 30:00
  Like the lyrics are great, the song is great, what a talented voice.
• 30:05
  And she and she's still that.
• 30:06
  She's just not a go-to for me, but I respect I respect the game.
• 30:10
  I think she's very talented.
• 30:11
  Yeah, definitely not a go-to for me either.
• 30:13
  But the two singles, I will say, it has me intrigued for the upcoming album.
• 30:17
  I think I might be a fan of this album because I do like what I've heard so far in these two.
• 30:21
  So that's, I guess, progress for me becoming a fan of Olivia Rodrigo.
• 30:25
  I don't think she's ever going to crack my top 50 artists, but it's nice to know that I don't actively avoid her music, which I kind of have done in the past.
• 30:35
  It's not like I hate her or anything.
• 30:37
  It's just kind of like, oh, no, thanks.
• 30:38
  You know, I'm good.
• 30:39
  I don't, I don't need that.
• 30:41
  Now I I like these two songs.
• 30:42
  Now I'm starting to meet fans of hers in the middle.
• 30:45
  Yeah, I like both of the songs.
• 30:47
  They're fine, especially the cure.
• 30:48
  I thought it got better as the song went on.
• 30:50
  Not that it was bad early on, but I think it picked up a lot of her music music is very catchy.
• 30:56
  The choruses are very catchy, and I think I think the cure is a good song.
• 31:00
  Didn't love Drop Dead as much.
• 31:02
  Again, it's fine.
• 31:04
  It's very poppy.
• 31:05
  She's very poppy, she's very catchy with her music, with her lyrics, with the chorus.
• 31:10
  Both songs are fine in a good in a good way.
• 31:13
  I don't I didn't love them.
• 31:14
  They're not great, but like I don't hate them.
• 31:16
  They work, you know.
• 31:17
  There you go.
• 31:18
  And and that's I I guess that's progress for somebody who's not a big Olivia fan.
• 31:23
  It might be a step in the right direction.
• 31:25
  I think it definitely is more developed than some of her other work.
• 31:27
  So I'm excited to see what the album holds.
• 31:30
  Jeremy, we're bringing it back, fair or foul.
• 31:34
  It's a fan favorite.
• 31:35
  We've done it a couple of episodes.
• 31:37
  I like doing it.
• 31:39
  I will say I do feel like we have the propensity to lean foul in a lot of the topics we bring up.
• 31:45
  So hopefully we find something today that we can say is fair and in bounds.
• 31:50
  But I'm not so sure looking at this list.
• 31:52
  I'll let you get started with what your first one is in the sheet.
• 31:55
  All right, Sean, this is a good one, I think, in my opinion.
• 31:59
  Um, the first fair foul we have getting out of your seat and standing in the aisle once your airplane has landed, even if you're in row 22.
• 32:10
  So I'll set the preference, I'll set the scene.
• 32:13
  The plane lands, planes they unload from the front to back, first row, second row, third.
• 32:20
  Some of you people just get up as soon as the flight lands, regardless, and you clog the aisles.
• 32:25
  It doesn't work, but I I won't get too into it yet.
• 32:30
  Is this fair or foul, Sean, to get up, clog the aisles if you're all the way in the back of the plane or not, or even like not the first few rows of the plane?
• 32:38
  It's so foul, in my opinion.
• 32:41
  I hate it, man.
• 32:42
  It's one of my biggest pet peeves, is when there's people, I I guess there is a little bit of a distinction.
• 32:48
  When there are people behind you that are acting as if their time is more important than yours, and they're running late for their connection, and they're in such a hurry to get off, and oh my god, and they're trying to push through the crowd and make their and worm their way up to get off the plane first.
• 33:07
  That's entirely foul.
• 33:08
  Those people that they should have air marshals just picking them up as they make their way through the hall and not letting them off the plane, keep detain them.
• 33:17
  But standing up, it's tough.
• 33:19
  If you've been on an eight-hour flight and you have an aisle seat, and you and the other aisle seat next to you both decide to stand up and to stretch the legs a little bit.
• 33:27
  I'm not gonna say you're crazy for that.
• 33:29
  I guess that's a little bit different, but you cannot inch forward.
• 33:32
  I think the moment you start making positive momentum forward, it's foul.
• 33:37
  If you stand neutral and almost act as a blocker to those heathens behind you, I would say that is inbounds.
• 33:45
  So I'm gonna say fair in some instances.
• 33:49
  If you're just referring to standing, if you're acting any forward progress, foul.
• 33:55
  What do you think?
• 33:56
  Yeah, I mean, like every good question, the answer lies between a little of both, yes or no.
• 34:02
  If you're Sean Boyle and you're 6'10, you gotta stand.
• 34:07
  You're too tall to sit down for that.
• 34:09
  Like, you gotta stretch the legs.
• 34:10
  I get that.
• 34:11
  You can't move forward for sure.
• 34:14
  You can also get up and be in the aisle if you have a connecting flight and it connects, you only have 45 minutes or less to get to that flight.
• 34:23
  Some of these terminals, Chicago, Phoenix, Dallas, any Houston, any airport in Texas, massive airports.
• 34:32
  You gotta, you gotta run, you gotta catch the tram or whatever.
• 34:35
  You have the right to go out there, but you have to tell people, you have to let people know.
• 34:39
  I see, I'm I'm against you on that.
• 34:41
  I think those people you fucked up when you booked.
• 34:44
  And if you got delayed or something, if you got delayed or something, that's just how the cookie crumbles.
• 34:49
  I I don't like anybody pushing through because then what if I'm in a situation where I'm in a hurry as well, yeah, and I'm just choosing not to be a disruptor, and you because you have a little more boldness about you, a few rows back in the cheap seats or trying to push through because your time's more valuable than mine.
• 35:07
  I don't like it, Jeremy.
• 35:08
  And that's why I would rather say shut the whole thing down, nobody stands until your row's ready to go, than to do a oh, but mine's leaving in 20 minutes.
• 35:18
  I don't want that.
• 35:19
  I don't want it.
• 35:20
  Don't open up in the word box.
• 35:22
  I'm switching my opinion completely then.
• 35:24
  I agree with that.
• 35:25
  Everybody should stand up when it's your row's turn.
• 35:28
  You stand up in unison, you look around your row, you say, Are we ready?
• 35:31
  Yes, stand up.
• 35:32
  Uh, that's fine.
• 35:33
  I'd proceed that way.
• 35:34
  And that works.
• 35:35
  So I I approve actually.
• 35:37
  That would be I would approve of that.
• 35:38
  If we could sign into law, a fact where it's it's like being dismissed from the auditorium in high school.
• 35:45
  Yeah, it's row by row.
• 35:47
  When your row's called, you could stand up and go.
• 35:49
  That's what we need to do on airlines because it creates it's madness.
• 35:52
  It's madness when people start flying around and grabbing bags.
• 35:56
  Oh, my bag's up there.
• 35:57
  I have to get eyes on it.
• 35:59
  It's like, no, you don't don't put it up there then.
• 36:01
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 36:02
  Well, that's why we had auditorium and dismissal to practice stuff like this in the real world.
• 36:06
  So I I I don't hate it, yeah.
• 36:09
  And people lose their minds when they travel too.
• 36:12
  It's like they're completely different animals.
• 36:13
  They it's yeah.
• 36:15
  And it's federal too.
• 36:16
  Like, I don't get I don't get these people because like anything you do that's dumb, breaking the law, is gonna be federal.
• 36:24
  So kind of dumb.
• 36:25
  And these people, yeah, you're right.
• 36:27
  These people turn into vultures in airports.
• 36:29
  I don't get it, but yeah, let's fix that.
• 36:31
  Absolute monsters.
• 36:33
  Jared, what's your next one in Fairfell?
• 36:35
  All right, my second one I have this is interesting.
• 36:40
  This could this could expand to a lot of things, but I'll narrow it down to uh tipping baristas for taking your order and not like tipping them for their service that they do.
• 36:50
  Literally, you order your drink and you pay with card, and the first screen that comes up is do you want to tip this amount?
• 36:59
  Fair or foul.
• 37:02
  Yeah, let's start with the one you just posed because we this could we'll have this conversation branch off in a few different directions.
• 37:08
  I think it's fair for them to have that built into their system to ask for a tip because they are give they are providing a service.
• 37:18
  Now, they are just taking your order and essentially pouring you a cup of coffee, like I get black coffee, it's doing this, it's just it's not much work, and that is what they're paid to do.
• 37:28
  So there is that argument.
• 37:31
  But I think since they are providing a service to you, you're choosing to go to that coffee shop, you're choosing to have them pour you your coffee instead of doing it yourself.
• 37:40
  It's fair to ask for a tip.
• 37:41
  There's other situations where that screen comes up for a tip and it's out of bounds.
• 37:45
  Yeah, so where I stand is I'm not gonna tip$2 on a$4 cup of coffee, but I don't think it's unreasonable for the place you're ordering coffee from to put that screen in there.
• 38:00
  And I don't think it's unreasonable if you do want to tip them something.
• 38:02
  What do you think?
• 38:03
  Is that fair or foul?
• 38:05
  That's fair.
• 38:06
  I think that they work.
• 38:08
  It's fair to ask for tips, regardless.
• 38:10
  You have the option to tip or not tip.
• 38:14
  Oh, that's fair.
• 38:15
  I think that they work very hard as well, but probably not for much money, too.
• 38:20
  So I don't hate, like, I get where they're coming from, and that's uh that's fine for that.
• 38:26
  It is unfortunate that the people they're asking the tips for are kind of shelling out, you know, their pennies in their drawers to get that cup of coffee in the morning many times.
• 38:35
  So I think they're targeting the wrong people a good bit.
• 38:39
  But it's fair to ask.
• 38:41
  I would I would just say, like, if you ask on the first screen, maybe they should be required to like run to the other side of the cafe so people can make decisions on their own and not be pressured, and then they come back in 20 seconds.
• 38:54
  But but it's all fair, like they can they can ask as as long as there's an option and as long as uh no one's spitting in coffee for answers.
• 39:02
  Uh it's it's all fair, I guess, to me.
• 39:05
  Yeah, a recent development in years is this new asking you to tip feature.
• 39:10
  Like this didn't used to exist, yeah, and now it's provided some ease when you're eating at a restaurant and they come to your table with the mobile machine and you're able to pay all in one fell swoop and get out on your way.
• 39:21
  I love that.
• 39:21
  Uh but there are times now, Jeremy, where uh we do the work.
• 39:25
  So, for example, say we go to a convenience store and we grab what we need and they go and ring us up and it's asking, would you like to round up or would you like to tip?
• 39:37
  And that is a no from me, dog.
• 39:39
  That's not fair, those are foul.
• 39:42
  That's that's crazy behavior, I think.
• 39:44
  Asking for a tip when you don't provide a service shouldn't be allowed.
• 39:48
  Maybe it's an extra step that makes us jump through.
• 39:51
  Maybe some rich folk are able to tip in those situations.
• 39:53
  I'm not.
• 39:55
  Yeah, I agree with you entirely there.
• 39:57
  That is uh that is fair.
• 39:59
  I don't even think in those situations the tips go to the employees.
• 40:03
  I think it just goes to the corporation.
• 40:04
  I could be wrong, but like definitely go to the corporation, whatever the right.
• 40:09
  So like miss miss me on that.
• 40:11
  Yeah, we uh we need some form of service for consideration for tips.
• 40:16
  That should be bottom floor, bare minimum, no doubt.
• 40:20
  There's nothing worse than accidentally hitting the roundup when your purchase was like 46.02.
• 40:25
  It's like mother, it's a full dollar 98 cents.
• 40:28
  I rounded up.
• 40:29
  It's like I didn't mean to hit that.
• 40:30
  There are times for me, for me, acme is my main grocery store, and there's a one, there's a five, and there's like a ten dollar tip.
• 40:39
  And the ten dollar tip is next to the credit button.
• 40:42
  So whenever I pick press credit, I'm scared that I'm gonna miss and hit tip ten dollars or whatever.
• 40:48
  So uh it's never happened yet, but I think it might eventually.
• 40:52
  So I'm I'm I'm on I'm watching.
• 40:56
  The last one for fair or foul, it's one I brought to you.
• 40:59
  And it's an age-old question.
• 41:02
  Okay, it is are unpaid internships fair or foul?
• 41:06
  I will let you lead the proceedings on this one.
• 41:11
  Alright, so this is a great one, Sean.
• 41:13
  One of my favorites.
• 41:15
  It's foul.
• 41:17
  You have to pay people to work.
• 41:20
  It doesn't matter if they're interns or whatever, if they're doing work, they're providing a service, you gotta pay for that.
• 41:28
  Now, I guess if if we're trying to make it work for everybody, if you promise them the job afterwards and you want to see them perform for a few months for free, it still sucks.
• 41:42
  Just pay the minimum wage.
• 41:44
  Yeah.
• 41:44
  That's not gonna kill you.
• 41:45
  But yeah, no, I'm I'm gonna scrap that entirely.
• 41:48
  It's foul.
• 41:49
  You gotta you gotta pay people minimum wage at the very least, probably more too for incentives.
• 41:55
  But like, yeah, let's no, no more free labor, no free work.
• 42:00
  That's uh enough of it.
• 42:01
  Let's let's stop with the crap.
• 42:02
  It's it's why we're in the troubles that we are with this uh this world.
• 42:07
  I don't know how they became so prevalent, too.
• 42:10
  The unpaid internships when especially when we were in college, they there were several it was almost 50-50 in terms of paid versus unpaid.
• 42:19
  Yeah, and I just don't know where these companies these people get off.
• 42:24
  It like you said, it's it's extortion, it's awful.
• 42:27
  I don't know how that those are allowed.
• 42:30
  We have labor unions out there, put a stop to that.
• 42:34
  We need we need absolutely no uh unpaid internships.
• 42:38
  I completely agree with you.
• 42:40
  Even if you're promised the job after the fact, it's like I'm still doing the job before.
• 42:45
  Right.
• 42:45
  Yeah, honestly, there's no strings attached for you to say I take it back.
• 42:49
  You know what I mean?
• 42:49
  Like, uh no, you actually didn't do a great job when it was unpaid, so you're not gonna get the job now.
• 42:54
  A promise is just words, like I think that's disgusting stuff.
• 42:57
  I I was kind of hoping you would say fair just so we could have a real heated argument there, and I would call you a monster, but I'm glad I'm glad to know that you're a recent.
• 43:05
  Listen, I can for the just for the for the content.
• 43:08
  No, no, no.
• 43:09
  The I know I want your actual opinion.
• 43:11
  I was just hoping you were one of those hoity toity.
• 43:15
  No, no, no, no.
• 43:16
  You gotta you gotta pay.
• 43:17
  Like it's great, like in theory, I guess maybe in a perfect world, but in this in this economy, in this job market, no, no way.
• 43:25
  Enough with the games like that.
• 43:26
  You gotta take care of people at the very minimum.
• 43:30
  My goodness, it's not even much money to like, oh my god.
• 43:34
  Yeah.
• 43:34
  If you can't afford to pay somebody for work, then you can't have them doing a job for you.
• 43:38
  So even if that's getting you coffee in the morning, whatever it is, if you're employing them to do something, you gotta pay.
• 43:45
  You gotta pay them.
• 43:46
  So I'm glad we agree on that.
• 43:48
  Jeremy, I think that does it for today's episode.
• 43:51
  It was a nice quick hitter, fun-hearted, some light conversation, got to catch up on a few things.
• 43:57
  Do you have anything before we go?
• 44:00
  Nah, I don't think so.
• 44:01
  Summer's heating up, of course.
• 44:04
  That's exciting.
• 44:05
  Yeah, like you said, no later of the month.
• 44:07
  Morgan's coming in early August.
• 44:09
  I know Sean will be locked in on that.
• 44:11
  Got him a ticket.
• 44:13
  Uh, but yeah, excited to get into warmer weathers.
• 44:16
  A little more baseball in the summer, we'll see.
• 44:18
  But uh yeah, that'll be uh that'll be fun.
• 44:21
  Yeah, I'm excited to just be outside more and enjoy enjoy some sunshine.
• 44:27
  We'll keep bringing you weekly episodes like this.
• 44:31
  We'll also we have some more drafts lined up.
• 44:33
  The record club is off in full swing.
• 44:35
  We have another one coming to you soon.
• 44:37
  So if you want to get involved with that, please reach out.
• 44:40
  You know where to find us.
• 44:41
  Listeners, thank you all for tuning in.
• 44:44
  A big thank you to Jeremy for joining me.
• 44:46
  And until next time, take care of it.