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Ep 34 - Live From the Royal Show! · WA Police Confidential (Formerly Operation Podcast)

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SPEAKER_12: Welcome to another episode of WA Police Confidential.
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SPEAKER_12: Now we've got a very special show in store for you guys.
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SPEAKER_12: It's our first show out of our little studio.
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SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_04: We're out of the studio and we're here at the Constable Care Foundation section within the police exhibit.
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SPEAKER_04: So this is normally where you see like a puppet show go on and they kind of tell you a bit about safety and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_04: You can also buy one of the$10 Constable Care show bags.
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SPEAKER_04: It's pretty cool in here.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah, and there's plenty more in this police exhibition this year.
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SPEAKER_12: We've got so many things from forensics to a little bit of um a trip down memory lane, uh going down the historical route.
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SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_04: And I mean, coming up on the show, we've got some some exciting things.
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SPEAKER_04: We're going to be having a chat to one of the coolest spots in WA police.
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SPEAKER_04: It's super interesting, but we'll keep it a secret for now.
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SPEAKER_12: You may, you may have seen it on some crime shows, maybe.
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SPEAKER_12: What else have we got?
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SPEAKER_12: We've got some constables from Gosnals that are joining us a little later in the show talking about the job, talking about their favourite parts of the job, which is really exciting.
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SPEAKER_04: We'll also talk to people out there in the show about what they've been doing today, how their kind of experience has been.
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SPEAKER_12: Um, yeah, so plenty in store for you.
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SPEAKER_12: Um, yeah, this little special episode at the Royal Show, at the police exhibition of the Royal Show here on WA Police Confidential.
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SPEAKER_04: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
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SPEAKER_04: We are here with Talia.
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SPEAKER_04: Talia is one of our officers helping out at the recruitment centre, but she has something kind of cool to talk about, Police Horse Bailey.
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SPEAKER_10: So Police Horse Bailey was my um mounted horse for the past about six years, and unfortunately he was retired last December due to a ligament condition, and he's come home to be with me for his retirement.
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SPEAKER_04: Does this happen often in the mounted unit um section, sorry?
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SPEAKER_04: Do they kind of get to keep the horses after they've retired?
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SPEAKER_10: Yes and no, you do get very attached to the horses that you are riding.
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SPEAKER_10: You spend more time with them than you do your family whilst you're there.
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SPEAKER_10: Uh I was lucky enough that I was in a position I could take him.
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SPEAKER_10: Uh but not it doesn't always work out that way.
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SPEAKER_10: But yeah, if you are in a position, you do try and keep them.
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SPEAKER_12: I know that we're recruiting not only people to join the police force, but horses as well.
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SPEAKER_10: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_10: Mounted put out a call the other day.
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SPEAKER_10: They are really on the lookout for a lot more horses.
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SPEAKER_10: They're trying to double their numbers.
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SPEAKER_10: So yeah, if you've got a horse, definitely let it let us know.
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SPEAKER_10: And how how's it been today at the show?
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SPEAKER_10: Lots of people coming through, checking out the recruitment section?
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_10: We've had so many people come through, ask questions.
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SPEAKER_10: We love when you ask us questions.
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SPEAKER_10: We're always here to answer them.
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SPEAKER_10: Uh, yeah, definitely if you've got any recruiting questions, come and ask them.
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SPEAKER_10: Perfect.
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SPEAKER_04: And what can you actually do in the recruitment area?
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SPEAKER_04: Is there like specific things that we can try out?
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_10: So we've got vests that you can try on here.
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SPEAKER_10: We've also got the grip strength test, so you can check your strength because a part of the application process is the physical performance evaluation where you are required to get 30 kilos of grip strength on each hand.
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SPEAKER_10: So you can test out your strength here.
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SPEAKER_10: Perfect.
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SPEAKER_10: Thanks so much, Charlia.
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SPEAKER_10: And this is WA Police Confidential.
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SPEAKER_12: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
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SPEAKER_12: We're now joined by Detective Acting Sergeant Jamie Buck.
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SPEAKER_12: Thanks for joining us.
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SPEAKER_12: Hello, thank you for having me.
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SPEAKER_12: And now I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna stuff this up.
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SPEAKER_12: So, what unit is it that you're up that you're from?
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SPEAKER_02: So I work with the JPC3, that is the Joint Policing Cybercrime Coordination Centre.
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SPEAKER_02: It's based at AFP in Sydney.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm here for the two weeks to assist with the Royal Show and running the VR headsets.
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SPEAKER_04: Can you tell us a little bit about the VR headsets?
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SPEAKER_04: It's kind of a cool concept that you've got going on.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, so they were gifted to us by the AFP for the national um for cybercrime awareness in children.
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SPEAKER_02: Our target age is 11 to 13.
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SPEAKER_02: I am finding that ages from 10 upwards, so even adults, are interested in playing the game and seeing what it's all about.
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SPEAKER_02: When you're in the VR headset, what what do you see?
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SPEAKER_02: What's your kind of mission?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, so there are two games that you can choose from.
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SPEAKER_02: There is a game where you're a victim of cybercrime, and then there is a game where you're an offender in cybercrime.
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SPEAKER_12: We're hoping people don't choose the offender one.
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SPEAKER_12: We don't want to encourage that, but but I suppose what is you know, it's a really important conversation around, um particularly here at the Royal Show, there's plenty of kids coming through the police exhibition.
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SPEAKER_12: Um what has the conversation been around, I suppose, education in this space?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, so the the offending game, it's not teaching them how to offend, it is teaching them the consequences.
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SPEAKER_02: So children are inquisitive.
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SPEAKER_02: If they can, in a safe environment, test out what happens if you're doing the wrong thing, then they learn here what the consequences are and not in the real world.
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SPEAKER_02: The uh the games are to teach them safe and unsafe online behaviours.
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SPEAKER_02: So the message we want to get is what is okay and what isn't okay, and when to speak to an adult if something is happening online that makes them uncomfortable or doesn't seem right.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, awesome.
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SPEAKER_04: And your work doesn't just involve heading around with VI headsets.
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SPEAKER_04: Can you kind of tell us a little bit about more what you do with the group that you're working with at the moment?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, so ILEA is directly with the Cybercrime Squad.
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SPEAKER_02: We are promoting a don't trust verify, and by getting involved with kids and teaching them these safe and unsafe behaviours, it helps down the track to set them up in life and not make the same mistakes that we see now.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, unfortunately, a lot of people are falling victim to scams in particular, and whether it is on social media or through text messages, phone calls, emails, uh, what we want to do is get and educate them young about what they should and shouldn't be clicking on, such as links, um, and knowing who they're talking to, not trusting strangers, and not trusting that an email has come from where it has come from.
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SPEAKER_02: We get these false domains, for instance, where it looks like they've come from a legitimate company, or they might get a phone call from someone saying they're a police officer and it's not who they are, and it's like just question everything now because the scammers are getting quite sophisticated in how they trick people into sending them money or sending them personal information about themselves.
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SPEAKER_04: It's really kind of about showing them that you've got to be inquisitive about these things and not kind of just put your trust into anybody, just as you wouldn't go up to a stranger and take candy off them.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, definitely.
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SPEAKER_02: And we also want to encourage people when they are have when they have fallen victim or when they've almost fallen victim to also report that on the cyber.gov.au website.
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SPEAKER_02: That lets us know when these scammers are getting out there and trying new things or if or how widespread they are trying to engage with people to trick them into sending them money or crypto or information.
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SPEAKER_02: We won't know unless people are reporting it to us.
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SPEAKER_02: We do our best to try and be on top of it, but we rely on the community telling us when this is happening so that we can be on the front foot and let people know.
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SPEAKER_12: And like you said, scammers can be so sophisticated in their methods now, but police are one step ahead all the time, um, or try to be at least, and I think this new sort of technology in in education and prevention is part of that, right?
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SPEAKER_12: Yes, it definitely is.
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SPEAKER_04: How did you get into this position?
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SPEAKER_04: I mean it's a bit of a it's a cool spot to be in because you get to work with the AFP and other organisations um around the nation.
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SPEAKER_04: How did that kind of fall in place for you?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh for me personally, I took an interest in cybercrime when I started uh studying at university and I did not know a lot about uh computers in the way of hacking and network.
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SPEAKER_02: So I made myself uncomfortable by learning it, and now that I know about it, I understand how it how it works to a degree.
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SPEAKER_02: Um but I'm using that education to uh improve my ability to do my job.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not a job that everybody is um interested in, but there are so many different jobs that you can get within the police.
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SPEAKER_02: It doesn't have to be out on well, you do have to go out and do your foot patrols, you do have to start from the bottom up.
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SPEAKER_02: But if you find a niche little area that take that you take an interest in, it might not be something that's that everybody is interested in, but it has given me an opportunity to work with AFP in Sydney.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and when I come back, I'll have a lot to provide the WA police and and you can just go from there.
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SPEAKER_12: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_12: And you know, if you are interested, let's joinforces.wa.gov.au is where you can head to for some more information.
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SPEAKER_12: But thank you so much for joining us.
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SPEAKER_12: It's been amazing.
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SPEAKER_12: This is WA Police Confidential.
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SPEAKER_12: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
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SPEAKER_12: We're now joined by Acting Inspector Scott Gillis.
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SPEAKER_12: Thanks for joining us.
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SPEAKER_00: My pleasure.
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SPEAKER_12: So, firstly, we might start with your time as a police officer, acting inspector.
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SPEAKER_12: So, how long have you been in the job?
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SPEAKER_00: So I just took up 30 years in January.
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SPEAKER_12: Wow, congratulations.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: So it seems like only yesterday I joined the police academy, but uh time goes quick, but no regrets whatsoever.
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SPEAKER_12: And and you've been all over, you were just saying, tell us a little bit about the parts of WA that you've seen.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh I have been a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: I absolutely love it.
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SPEAKER_00: I grew up in regional WA in a small town in the Great Southern, so I was always destined to go out to the country.
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SPEAKER_00: So after doing five years in Perth, I um yeah went off to the country, went down to Bustleton, three fabulous years down there, got myself promoted to sergeant, got a phone call and they said, Congratulations, you're a sergeant, you're off to Geraldton.
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SPEAKER_00: So when I sort of picked myself up off the floor, we um got planning and uh went off to Geraldton for three years.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, back to Perth for a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, then got my first officer in charge by that gin gin out of the suburb of Perth, but it's still classed as regional.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and then from there I was lucky enough to pick up the operations manager for Northwest Water Police, so that took me to Dampier, so six years in the Pilbora.
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SPEAKER_00: Um but on the boat we were anywhere from the Kimberley down the Frio, so amazing experience.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean it's something that I guess not anybody else would really be able to say, that they've been able to live all over the state and get to do one of the coolest jobs, heading out on the water every single day and kind of checking out what what at what a different unit of WA police has to offer.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, it was always um a sort of a bit of a goal of mine to join the Water Police.
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SPEAKER_00: Fortunately, uh the position up there become available, I was able to get it, and good most days, but they have handrails on boats for a reason, so it's not always pleasant uh when you're out at sea.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and you do have some days you turn a bit green and and uh try and hold yourself up, but uh yeah, but amazing uh six years up there.
11:39
SPEAKER_04: Have you enjoyed your whole time in the WA police force overall?
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SPEAKER_00: Like every career, you have your downsides, but one thing um about policing, and everyone that leaves police they say they miss the people, not the work, and it's very much that wherever you go on your down days, catch up with your mates, you go to work and you just see the you know the camaraderie, the mateship, and that comes with it, and they lift you up, so we all stand together very well.
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SPEAKER_00: So I certainly have no regrets whatsoever, and I'll be here for another 10 to 15 years till I retire.
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SPEAKER_12: And there's plenty always happening in the metro area and in regional WA, but at the moment, um Operation Meadow Bank, tell us a little bit about that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, Operation Meadow Bank is uh is a metro portfolio operation targeting not only um e-roadable devices but unregistered motorbikes and devices getting around the metro area.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's a bit of a flow on from Operation Moorhead.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I was lucky enough to to lead and coordinate Operation Moorhead in the Drinlup district.
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SPEAKER_00: Unbelievable success.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, and as a result of that, um these other operations have come along to to really try and target uh these unlawful e-roadable devices, but also educate the ones that are doing the right things or are potentially add up to no good.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's running at the moment.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, awesome.
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SPEAKER_04: And there is a bit of safety messaging behind this, you know, um making sure that your vehicle or your e-ridable is registered as well.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so not so much registered as such, but um when we talk about register, we're really pushing the bike link uh methodology.
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SPEAKER_00: So it it kind of been around a long time, but we don't publicize it, not a lot of people know about it, and to be honest, I'd forgotten about it till Meadow Bank came out.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's just we're stopping everyone on these on these devices and bicycles and just saying, look, jump on the bike link, have a look at it, um register your device with it.
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SPEAKER_00: Um that way, if unfortunately it does get stolen or lost, we can get it back to the right person.
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SPEAKER_12: And it's obviously um, you know, a big topic of conversation, e-rideables, and you know, there's plenty of kids at the show, um, plenty of kids on e-rideables, not at the show, but uh in Perth and in the sort of surrounding suburbs.
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SPEAKER_12: Uh what's your uh what's your take-home message to you know kids who are 16, they should be 16 to ride an e-ridable, but um what's your message to them in terms of being safe out there, being safe out on the roads?
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SPEAKER_00: It's very much just just knowing the rules and um it's no different than riding a bike, you know, just stick to the jewel-used paths, obey the rules.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're on the road, make sure you're you know you ride over to the edge.
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SPEAKER_00: None of this reckless wheel stand riding down the middle of the carriageway.
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SPEAKER_00: Um if you're going out putting a balaclava on to ride these things, it says you're up to no good and you know you shouldn't be doing something.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's just having that responsibility.
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SPEAKER_00: But the other key is look after your mates, if your mates out there doing these stupid things, because something can happen very, very quickly, and you're dealing with people on the road who aren't expecting these people to be there, they're expecting motorists to be around.
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SPEAKER_00: So whilst it not might not be the fault of the person on the e-bike, um, it's putting a lot of other people at harm, and unfortunately, people have to live with the consequences of either hurting someone very seriously, and we have the unfortunate task of telling the family member that you know one of these 15 or 16-year-olds have unfortunately may have passed away as a result of their actions.
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SPEAKER_00: So look after your mates, do the right thing.
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SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
14:45
SPEAKER_04: And now today at the show you're working with Police Legacy.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, is there a particular reason why you've decided to help out at Legacy?
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SPEAKER_00: Um I've been fortunate enough for the last three years to be on the board of Police Legacy.
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SPEAKER_00: It's something I've always wanted to do.
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SPEAKER_00: I've always loved the values and what Police Legacy stands for.
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SPEAKER_00: It's sad that we need uh an organisation like Police Legacy to help out with um families of deceased members.
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SPEAKER_00: Um but like I was saying to you just before, um, unfortunately I was touched by it with one of my teammates in uh Geraldson Police Station, died in off-duty uh quad bike crash.
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SPEAKER_00: So very sad time for our team, but for his family.
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SPEAKER_00: But the wraparound that legacy gave his wife and three kids and looked after them through their whole schooling period, and they've now got a grandchild in that family who are now, you know, still being cared for by police legacy.
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SPEAKER_00: It really made me think I want to be a part of that, and I want to make sure every police officer has the same, you know, wraparound and look after because we're all one big blue family, um, and we just want to make sure that stays that way.
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SPEAKER_00: And if I can help that into the future, all the better.
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SPEAKER_04: That support is really kind of what that blue family is about, you know, having having the back of your mate, being there for everybody else, no matter what.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: I I still remember it was 30 years ago, obviously, but my graduation day, the um acting commissioner, his very last sentence of his speech, don't ask me what he said for the rest of the speech, but his last words were welcome to the family.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, when we've added the blue family into that, but um, but yeah, it's just resonated through my whole career, absolutely.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: And I'm very much about care for our people and my people.
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SPEAKER_12: So and you know, 30 years ago, and if that still resonates with you, if you still remember that that moment in his speech, it must speak volumes to I guess the culture of policing.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, it does, and um, it's very much what we have to do.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of people out there trying to knock us down, um, but we just got to stay positive.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and now as I move up in my my leadership journey within the police, it's important I um show that care to to my staff and subordinates and people around me, um, and I take that very much part of everyday duties of just checking in on people, knowing people, understanding the signs when they're not doing it right, and being available for them.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, so I do that professionally, plus also on the side of legacy as well.
16:53
SPEAKER_12: And and I suppose the the second part of that is um, you know, those those officers who may just be starting out.
17:02
SPEAKER_12: You know, you you're three decades into your career, and you've still got that enthusiasm, I'd imagine, as you did when you were graduated.
17:11
SPEAKER_12: Um you know, what keeps you going and what's that message to the the people that are just coming through the academy now?
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SPEAKER_00: Um I think it's just you know, we we all join that thought process to help people, and and we do get to help some people along the way, and it's um it's very much like that.
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SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, we're also dealing people most of the time at their one of their worst days of their lives, and it it kind of does take its toll on you, but you've got to I've just got a good ability to maintain that positive spirit, and that's what I want to put on that.
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SPEAKER_00: Whilst we're dealing with people at their worst, there's good outcomes that come from it, and just maintain that positivity, and that's what I really try and reinforce with our our more junior officers that you know there's a lot more good days and bad days, and we're all here to support each other, uh, and just get out there and help, you know, treat everyone like you you'd expect your mum to be treated, and and just go like that.
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SPEAKER_00: So, and it's just that attitude you've got to have and and move forward, and that's uh yeah.
18:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, of course.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, at the exhibition in the legacy stall, you can make donations, you can purchase kind of uh mementos, would you say?
18:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so absolutely, yeah.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: So we've got a greater road.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: Teddy bears, the Labradors, and the German shepherds are obviously a big winner, but all different sorts of uh um plush toys and those type of things, blankets, uh the challenge coins are a massive thing at the moment.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, a whole bunch of different police units haven't, but the legacy have uh a group as well, so there's a lot of stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Plus, um, you know, you can just make a donation.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and if you want to jump on the motorbike, you know, there's the opportunity there, the gold coin donation to sit on the police motorbike, which not everyone gets to do.
18:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, of course.
18:40
SPEAKER_04: Now, just quickly, challenge coins.
18:42
SPEAKER_04: They're a big thing in police culture, but not a lot of people outside of the policing world know what a challenge coin is.
18:47
SPEAKER_04: Can you kind of give a brief explanation of what that might be?
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SPEAKER_00: Um more so started with the military.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, they obviously have it, and we probably don't use it as much as the military do, but if you're given a challenge coin from a particular unit, you could be sort of called on at any time uh to produce your challenge coin.
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SPEAKER_00: If you don't, you know, it could be a fine of, you know, you might have to buy a couple of drinks for your mates or you know, do 20 push-ups or something like that.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's that's sort of where it started from.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's about once again just giving that the original sort of thing is having that ownership, being part of that group and that unit, um, and bringing that mateship together and looking after having each other's back.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's just being sort of a part of that.
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SPEAKER_00: So we've it's been adopted well within a lot of police agencies around WA and Australia.
19:27
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, perfect.
19:28
SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much, Acting Inspector Gillis, for joining us.
19:31
SPEAKER_04: And this is confidential.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: All units, the WA police force is looking for people, all kinds of people.
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SPEAKER_01: People into tech, into cardio, into four-wheel driving, dog people, and horse people, people who like motorbikes, pushbikes, planes, helicopters, and boats.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: People who are big on community, helping others and solving true crime, not just watching it, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Ordinary people who are up for doing extraordinary things.
19:55
SPEAKER_07: If you could be one of these people, you've found your people.
19:59
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20:01
SPEAKER_04: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
20:03
SPEAKER_04: We're joined with Constable Alex from Gosnells Police Station.
20:07
SPEAKER_04: Alex, how are you going today?
20:08
SPEAKER_06: Oh good, yeah.
20:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
20:09
SPEAKER_04: We've got um, throughout the day at the show, we've asked kids to fill out a question and kind of put them all together and we'll ask you some if that's alright.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, go for it.
20:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, go ahead.
20:21
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so the first question is from Logan.
20:24
SPEAKER_12: So, Logan, if you're listening, this one's from you.
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SPEAKER_12: Um, is it very scary?
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SPEAKER_06: Is it very scary?
20:30
SPEAKER_06: Well, it depends on the job.
20:32
SPEAKER_06: I can say the scariest one I've had so far is um when I had to do a scene guard and I was told you're probably gonna be standing here for the next 10 hours and there's no toilets nearby.
20:45
SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
20:46
SPEAKER_06: That was the scariest one.
20:49
SPEAKER_04: Perfect.
20:49
SPEAKER_04: All right, our next question here is how many criminals do you get every day?
20:55
SPEAKER_06: So I'm currently assigned to inquiry team, so we sort of specialized in uh finding uh retail stealing uh thieves.
21:03
SPEAKER_06: So we can get anything between one or two a day up to uh 10 or 12.
21:09
SPEAKER_12: So always on your feet, always catching criminals.
21:12
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's go, go, go, go.
21:14
SPEAKER_12: Um, okay, this one is it says how many calls come in each day on average?
21:23
SPEAKER_12: That's a good question.
21:24
SPEAKER_06: Uh on average, well, lately I'm speaking just for my station, Gosnels.
21:30
SPEAKER_06: There's a lot of calls coming through.
21:32
SPEAKER_06: Um it's starting to warm up, the weather's nice, so everyone's coming out of their houses, so we get a lot more calls.
21:39
SPEAKER_12: Out of carbonation.
21:40
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you could say that, yeah.
21:43
SPEAKER_04: Um, and our last question here is from another Alex.
21:48
SPEAKER_04: And it is Did you want to be a police officer when you were a kid?
21:53
SPEAKER_04: Was it your first career?
21:55
SPEAKER_06: It was not my first career.
21:57
SPEAKER_06: Um I well, like I told you guys before, uh I come from a trade background.
22:01
SPEAKER_06: I used to be a carpenter.
22:02
SPEAKER_06: Actually, as a kid, I wanted to be a firefighter.
22:04
SPEAKER_04: Oh, so you swapped sides.
22:06
SPEAKER_06: I did, yes.
22:07
SPEAKER_06: Well, DFS wouldn't have me.
22:10
SPEAKER_06: They're loss.
22:10
SPEAKER_04: Yes, our gain.
22:12
SPEAKER_12: Our gain at police.
22:14
SPEAKER_12: And how long have you been in the job now for this?
22:16
SPEAKER_06: I've been in the job since 2023 so far.
22:18
SPEAKER_12: And I guess if you're, you know, if anyone's out there listening and they're considering becoming a police officer or it could be a career path for them, what would be your advice to them?
22:28
SPEAKER_06: So I can speak for my experience as a father for four.
22:33
SPEAKER_06: It is a I found it to be a very family-friendly kind of kind of job.
22:38
SPEAKER_06: Whereas before I was a subcontractor, I used to do insane hours.
22:42
SPEAKER_06: Waypal allows me to, you know, go home, switch off, and actually spend time with my family.
22:47
SPEAKER_06: So over all in all, I'm really enjoying the swap.
22:52
SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
22:53
SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much for having a chat with us.
22:55
SPEAKER_12: And if we didn't quite get to your questions, keep submitting them over the next couple of days, and you might just hear them in the next couple of weeks episodes of WA Police Confidential.
23:06
SPEAKER_04: Welcome back to Confidential.
23:08
SPEAKER_04: We're joined here with Tyson.
23:10
SPEAKER_04: Hi Tyson, how's your day today?
23:12
SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's great.
23:13
SPEAKER_08: Um it's fantastic.
23:14
SPEAKER_08: I mean, I got lots of show bags, and um I've been here last year and the year uh missed out 2024, been here in 2023, uh 2022, and 2021, but 2020 I couldn't come because of COVID, so I'm just so proud to be here today.
23:31
SPEAKER_12: Awesome.
23:32
SPEAKER_12: Have you been through the police exhibition?
23:34
SPEAKER_08: I have, yes.
23:35
SPEAKER_08: I've been there last year, it was amazing.
23:38
SPEAKER_08: Um it's the experience of the police looking after WA, protecting people from baddies like criminals and people who don't follow the law.
23:48
SPEAKER_08: We respect them very, very much, and I love WA police.
23:51
SPEAKER_08: I respect them very much.
23:52
SPEAKER_04: That's great.
23:53
SPEAKER_04: And what's your favourite bit of this year's Royal Show?
23:55
SPEAKER_04: What have you liked so far?
23:57
SPEAKER_08: Um I do like going around and uh experiencing how much there's lots of fun places to go.
24:03
SPEAKER_08: Like there's like foods, rides, um, animals and people who commentary on the um the role show, it's amazing, and um I just love being a part of it because I was WA person since 999, is when I was born, and I just love being in WA.
24:23
SPEAKER_08: It's a good experience to come to the Roll Show on the school holidays, even though I don't go to school anymore.
24:28
SPEAKER_08: Um, but it's fun, a lot of fun.
24:30
SPEAKER_08: I'm really enjoying it, so it's very exciting.
24:32
SPEAKER_04: Perfect, thank you so much for having a chat with us.
24:34
SPEAKER_04: This is Confidential.
24:38
SPEAKER_12: Uh welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
24:40
SPEAKER_12: We're here with Naya, who's just been through our you know, not mistaken for Maya, but who's just been through our police exhibition.
24:47
SPEAKER_12: What did you think?
24:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh I thought it was pretty fun, not gonna lie.
24:49
SPEAKER_03: I had a lot of giggles.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: Um my hat was upside down a few times and yeah, it kept dropping, so I had little giggles there.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, and one of the guys with the fake gun thing, he said, Oh, you can like pull the train.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: I said, I'm not gangster like that, and yeah, had a little laugh.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: And uh did you collect any of the stickers or what what have we got in in store?
25:08
SPEAKER_03: I've got I've got two of them, and that's it, I think.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: That's it, and I've got my crown, and I got to do the motorbike, so that was pretty fun.
25:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh, awesome.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: Does it uh interest you in joining policing?
25:18
SPEAKER_03: I was already gonna join the ADF, so yeah.
25:22
SPEAKER_04: We love our brothers and the and sisters in the ADF, so yeah, this is confidential.
25:29
SPEAKER_12: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
25:32
SPEAKER_12: We've now got a very special guest with us, Maya.
25:34
SPEAKER_04: We are here with Rick the Rock, one of the mascots for the West Coast Eagles.
25:38
SPEAKER_04: Rick, we have a really important question to ask you.
25:41
SPEAKER_04: What were your thoughts, good or bad, on the game on the weekend?
25:48
SPEAKER_04: Hey! Sorry any Freo fans, but uh Rick enjoyed the game.
25:55
SPEAKER_12: And uh good or bad, roaming around the show, talking well, posing for photos with people.
26:03
SPEAKER_04: Great.
26:04
SPEAKER_12: I think that's a true thumbs up there.
26:05
SPEAKER_04: And Rick, have you been to the police exhibition yet?
26:10
SPEAKER_12: Yes.
26:10
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah.
26:12
SPEAKER_12: He's a man of few words.
26:14
SPEAKER_12: Man of very few words.
26:16
SPEAKER_12: This is WA Police Confidential.
26:20
SPEAKER_04: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
26:22
SPEAKER_04: We're here with Constable Justin.
26:24
SPEAKER_04: Constable, how long have you been in the WA Police Force for?
26:28
SPEAKER_11: Uh yeah, so I've been in for two years total service.
26:31
SPEAKER_04: Perfect.
26:31
SPEAKER_04: And you know, you got into the police two years ago.
26:35
SPEAKER_04: What did you do before you became a police officer?
26:38
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so I was actually a media camera operator for Channel 9, and it wasn't until doing that job and going to incidents where I was seeing people in tragedy that really made me want to join up and made me feel compelled to apply.
26:50
SPEAKER_12: And two years into the job now, what's been like one of your favourite parts of being a police officer?
26:56
SPEAKER_11: Uh I'm actually really passionate about going to family violence incidents and getting an outcome for the victims that makes them feel safe and gets them where they want to be.
27:05
SPEAKER_12: And you're here at the show uh not at our police exhibition but doing your general patrols.
27:11
SPEAKER_12: So, what does the day look like for you at the Royal Show?
27:14
SPEAKER_11: Uh just walking around, uh, we found a young girl over there who was uh vomiting, so we've told her where the first aid station is and we've directed a few people there.
27:22
SPEAKER_11: Um, but so far not too much going on.
27:25
SPEAKER_04: You're really just out here to kind of keep everyone safe and make sure everyone's having a good time and that they're enjoying the show.
27:31
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, lots of photos with young kids so far, so hopefully a few more of them to come.
27:35
SPEAKER_04: And if you had to say anything to anyone who was thinking of becoming a recruit or joining up, what would you say to them?
27:41
SPEAKER_11: Uh get ready for the academy.
27:44
SPEAKER_04: Perfect, and this is confidential.
27:48
SPEAKER_12: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
27:50
SPEAKER_12: We're here with Dylan.
27:51
SPEAKER_12: Dylan, thanks for joining us.
27:52
SPEAKER_09: Of course, guys, thank you.
27:54
SPEAKER_12: So tell us a little bit about your experience at the Royal Show and the police exhibition today.
27:58
SPEAKER_09: So, as someone who's been at the Royal Show for almost every year of my life, I can't say that I'm like, I can't say that I've had a better time than this year.
28:08
SPEAKER_09: It has been amazing.
28:09
SPEAKER_09: This exhibition is intriguing, informative.
28:13
SPEAKER_09: It is everything that like anyone could ever wish for when they come to a show.
28:17
SPEAKER_09: The atmosphere, vibes are amazing.
28:19
SPEAKER_12: Oh, there you go.
28:20
SPEAKER_12: And uh does this exhibition make you want to consider joining the police force?
28:24
SPEAKER_09: I actually had a chat with some police officers last night when I was here, and we talked about their salary and their experiences, and it sounds pretty good to me.
28:32
SPEAKER_09: So you're a multi-day show visitor then?
28:34
SPEAKER_09: I am a multi-day show visitor, that's dedication.
28:37
SPEAKER_04: That is dedication.
28:38
SPEAKER_04: What's what's your favourite ride out there, Ben?
28:40
SPEAKER_09: I did the slingshot one yesterday.
28:42
SPEAKER_09: That was great, great.
28:43
SPEAKER_09: $40, so it's pretty dear.
28:46
SPEAKER_04: Are you gonna get any show bags?
28:48
SPEAKER_09: No, I'm not gonna get show bags because I think that's a bit of a rip-off.
28:52
SPEAKER_04: Perfect.
28:52
SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much for having a chat with us.
28:54
SPEAKER_04: No worries, of course.
28:55
SPEAKER_04: This is confidential.
28:58
SPEAKER_12: Uh welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
29:00
SPEAKER_12: We're here with Emily.
29:02
SPEAKER_12: She's one of our rangers.
29:03
SPEAKER_12: So we'll let her explain what a ranger is.
29:06
SPEAKER_12: But Emily, do you wanna, yeah, for those who don't know, what actually is a ranger?
29:11
SPEAKER_13: Um a ranger is a person who volunteers their time to help out the community and the places that they work and gives their time up to help other people, and it's the step behind a cadet.
29:23
SPEAKER_13: So before you become a cadet.
29:25
SPEAKER_04: And how old, like what age can you start like volunteering as a ranger?
29:29
SPEAKER_13: Uh from 12 to 17.
29:32
SPEAKER_13: And how long have you been doing this?
29:34
SPEAKER_13: Uh since I was 12 and I'm seven 16 this year.
29:37
SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
29:38
SPEAKER_04: So And do you have plans of kind of wanting to go into the police force?
29:42
SPEAKER_04: Uh yes, 100%.
29:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
29:44
SPEAKER_12: And I suppose what what is it about policing that really like attracts you to the job?
29:50
SPEAKER_13: Um, the fact that I'm able to help people and make an impact on other people's lives, that's a very big thing in it.
29:56
SPEAKER_13: Um, and the fact that um I know that if someone needs help they can always call and help me and I can go to help.
30:03
SPEAKER_04: And you know, while you're doing some of your volunteering work as a ranger, what um do you kind of get to do or get to see?
30:10
SPEAKER_13: Um I get to see like tours of police stations, like some of the behind the scenes where not everyone gets to see.
30:19
SPEAKER_13: Um we get to go to the air wing, we get to go to the um water police.
30:25
SPEAKER_13: Uh we get to go to a lot of places and we get to like wash their cars and rewards, and we have awards nights and then like celebrations, and then there's things like this where we help out and yeah.
30:39
SPEAKER_12: You've been a ranger for four years now.
30:42
SPEAKER_12: Would you recommend it to other like to someone else who's wanting to become a police officer but maybe isn't old enough yet?
30:48
SPEAKER_13: 100%.
30:49
SPEAKER_13: I think it's an amazing thing, and I think everyone should give it a go.
30:53
SPEAKER_04: And do you kind of get a really good picture of what the police force might actually look like at the end?
30:57
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
30:58
SPEAKER_13: Because um once you're shown the behind the scenes, everyone it's like we have drills, we have um oath, we have code of conduct, we have everything technically a police station has, but we're just not officers.
31:14
SPEAKER_12: So we'll see you at the academy in a couple of years then.
31:18
SPEAKER_04: 100%.
31:19
SPEAKER_04: And you know, your dream spot as a police officer, what would it be, do you think?
31:23
SPEAKER_13: Look, I'm not 100% sure right now.
31:25
SPEAKER_13: I just know that my dream is to be a police officer, and if I can be a police officer, that's I'm just happy with that.
31:31
SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much, Emily, and this is confidential.
31:39
SPEAKER_04: Welcome back to WA Police Confidential.
31:42
SPEAKER_04: We are now doing our news section, probably bad news with Claire.
31:46
SPEAKER_04: Claire, we're at the show.
31:48
SPEAKER_04: It's a great time here.
31:49
SPEAKER_04: What news do you have for us?
31:51
SPEAKER_12: Uh yeah, unfortunately we've got some, well, good and bad news, I suppose.
31:54
SPEAKER_12: It's a bit of a mix this week.
31:56
SPEAKER_12: Uh, try and bring some positivity, but um, you know, the police out there who are responding to incidents, they don't really get a choice of whether it's good or bad.
32:05
SPEAKER_12: In this case, uh over overnight, so Tuesday to Wednesday, we had a pretty big uh incident in a place near Geraldton.
32:14
SPEAKER_12: And I'm gonna stuff up the pronunciation if I try.
32:16
SPEAKER_12: So we'll go with a place near Geraldton.
32:19
SPEAKER_12: And um, yeah, a person was shot, a man was shot, uh, suffered some non-life-threatening injuries, thankfully.
32:26
SPEAKER_12: He was taken to hospital, but um, you know, police worked throughout the night and the early hours of this morning to try and wrap that job up.
32:32
SPEAKER_12: But obviously, um, you know, that man's obviously still in hospital uh recovering from those injuries.
32:37
SPEAKER_04: So And that area near Geralton, that is all safe and everything's all back to normal there?
32:43
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it is.
32:44
SPEAKER_12: So um there's no ongoing risk to public safety, which is a really good thing.
32:49
SPEAKER_12: Um yeah, police were significant resources were deployed up to the Geralton area overnight um to really wrap that job up pr pretty quickly.
32:58
SPEAKER_12: So um well done to the police officers, including the tactical response group that that went up there and responded to that incident.
33:06
SPEAKER_12: Um in some other news this week, we also had National Police Remembrance Day.
33:10
SPEAKER_12: So it's in honour of our uh officers who have paid the ultimate price um and died in the line of duty.
33:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, speaking of uh Police Remembrance Day, we might actually put our history fact into this part here, as it does relate to Police Remembrance Day.
33:27
SPEAKER_04: So Constable Joseph O'Connell was just 18 years old and eight months into his policing career when his life was unfortunately cut short.
33:36
SPEAKER_04: On the 17th of April 1887, Joseph and Constable Franklin, a more senior constable at the time, were pursuing a suspect in Fremantle when Joseph was unfortunately shot.
33:48
SPEAKER_04: He died from his injuries three days later, and he is actually the 12th person um who is reminded of on our wall up in Jundala that we have.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: And he is also the youngest uh police officer that we have that we remember on the 29th of September every year.
34:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh Joseph never had the chance to see where his own career might take him, but his father, and the reason why Joseph joined was because his father had actually done 30 years in police and an additional 20 years in the military.
34:23
SPEAKER_04: So over 50 years.
34:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a long time.
34:26
SPEAKER_04: It is incredible.
34:28
SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, this police remembrance day that happened two days ago, we actually remember Joseph and every other WA police member who has unfortunately taken the ultimate risk in policing.
34:40
SPEAKER_12: And my I just have one last topic uh of to chat about uh in terms of the news headlines this week.
34:48
SPEAKER_12: Last week we actually had a really good chat with senior constable Sean Knox from the Road Policing Group, and we were talking about all the excuses under the sun that they hear day in, day out for people doing silly things on our roads.
35:01
SPEAKER_12: Um he came in, had a chat, so go back and have a listen to that episode if you haven't already.
35:07
SPEAKER_12: But um he actually left our studio last week.
35:10
SPEAKER_12: Oh I say studio, it's a bit of a makeshift studio, but the room next to the armory.
35:15
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it's basically a little kind of cupboard, but that's okay.
35:18
SPEAKER_12: Um anyway, he left the the uh studio last week and on his way out, so leaving less than five minutes away.
35:26
SPEAKER_12: Less than five minutes away, he um came across a truck driver driving on the wrong side of the road.
35:34
SPEAKER_04: That just was there a reason?
35:36
SPEAKER_04: Is there any reason why he was on the wrong side of the road?
35:39
SPEAKER_12: Uh look at the explanation he was given was uh that the the driver apparently does this every day.
35:46
SPEAKER_12: He's a professional driver and it's a normal thing for him.
35:49
SPEAKER_04: So driving on the wrong side of the road is normal for some.
35:53
SPEAKER_04: Yes, but but it shouldn't be.
35:55
SPEAKER_12: It definitely should not be.
35:57
SPEAKER_12: It should not be.
35:57
SPEAKER_12: Um, but yeah, I mean you just can't you can't make it up sometimes.
36:02
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
36:02
SPEAKER_04: I mean, and to happen when you're only minutes away from a police station, like, do you think you're not gonna get caught?
36:10
SPEAKER_04: Is this what's going through people's heads at this time?
36:12
SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
36:13
SPEAKER_12: And I mean, um senior constable Sean Knox last week was talking about policing this this operation sentinel, right?
36:20
SPEAKER_12: So it's basically police out there and as they do every single day, policing our roads, policing our streets, keeping the community safe.
36:28
SPEAKER_12: Um, but it is one of those things that they're really targeting those silly and seemingly minor behaviours that end up um, you know, that could end up with worse consequences.
36:40
SPEAKER_12: So uh yeah, go back, have a listen if you haven't already.
36:43
SPEAKER_12: But yeah, you just you sometimes can't make it up, Maya.
36:45
SPEAKER_04: You can't ride it.
36:46
SPEAKER_04: You can't ride it.
36:47
SPEAKER_12: And the Royal Show and the Police Exhibition are still here Friday and Saturday.
36:52
SPEAKER_12: So you've still got a chance to come down, have a chat, see everything that we've got to offer here at the exhibition.
36:58
SPEAKER_12: And don't forget to submit your votes for the drawing competition.
37:02
SPEAKER_12: So the prize is pretty cool.
37:04
SPEAKER_12: The prize is a helicopter visit to your school.
37:07
SPEAKER_12: Um so the five top five finalists are on display.
37:10
SPEAKER_12: Come down, have a vote, um, and you could win.
37:13
SPEAKER_12: And thank you to all those who who did submit um for that competition.
37:17
SPEAKER_12: So that's here at the show Friday and Saturday.
37:20
SPEAKER_12: Come down and and have a look.
37:22
SPEAKER_12: We have had an awesome day here at the show, Claire.
37:25
SPEAKER_04: What was your favourite part?
37:27
SPEAKER_12: Oh, I think it's just meeting all the people that have come through the exhibition.
37:30
SPEAKER_12: Like the, you know, our team, part of our team, the corporate communications team, put in a lot of effort to get this up and running.
37:37
SPEAKER_12: Um, but yeah, seeing all the smiling faces, the kids with their stickers and their hats probably been the highlight for me.
37:43
SPEAKER_04: So we've asked the kids out there to describe the police exhibition in one word and one word only, and here is what they had to say.
37:51
SPEAKER_04: But before we do, Maya, what's your word?
37:55
SPEAKER_04: Historical.
37:58
SPEAKER_12: Claire, yours?
38:00
SPEAKER_12: I knew you'd throw it to me and I had nothing ready to go.
38:03
SPEAKER_12: Um I think my word would be fun.
38:10
SPEAKER_12: Simple, but you know, it works.
38:14
SPEAKER_12: And this is the WA kids' thoughts.
38:17
SPEAKER_09: Exhilarating.
38:18
SPEAKER_07: It's really cool.
38:19
SPEAKER_07: Zebull, Zebel, Zebol.
38:21
SPEAKER_07: Look it.
39:12
SPEAKER_12: Sound editing by Joe and Danny and Sam.
39:15
SPEAKER_12: Cover song by the WA Police Pipe Band, and cheesy podcast theme music by Joey Canzaro.
39:21
SPEAKER_12: By the way, why just listen to a podcast about policing when you could actually be doing it?
39:26
SPEAKER_12: Let's join forces.wa.gov.au.