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Altered TCG's New Banned & Suspended List – What It Means for the Meta · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: You want me to do them.
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  Speaker 2: There has been away because.
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  Speaker 3: You can stop.
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  Speaker 2: You can't stop. You can't stop on like a random
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  Speaker 2: ass Sunday and like that's when everyone came and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: I got shit better to do. And I felt like
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  Speaker 2: we record on a Friday and they're like, got drink, Well,
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  Speaker 2: listen to Wisconsin's I got drinking to do for Wisconsin people.
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  Speaker 2: I don't say that's like the rest of the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because it was funny because if I found it funny,
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  Speaker 2: because Dexter then posted that thing to me, He's like,
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  Speaker 2: you weren't lying. I'm like, did you think I was?
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  Speaker 2: I also like the other one, like the new the
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  Speaker 2: new one for twenty twenty four came out and it
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  Speaker 2: was like the guys like I don't even need to
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  Speaker 2: zoom out. It's just right here. It's all Wisconsin, all right?
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  Speaker 2: But what's going on? Everybody? I am the one, the
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  Speaker 2: only the w o Okay, I joined by my normal
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  Speaker 2: cast of misfits. Wow, we've got we were we had
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  Speaker 2: six misfits at one time, we were down to three survive.
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  Speaker 2: We are the three best friends that anyone could have.
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  Speaker 2: Just me, Okay, that's cool.
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  Speaker 4: Hanging earlier and you left me hanging.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I don't remember. I was singing Stairway Heaven. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: but joining me is cool. Mister Cole Robbie, Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 2: and we have Dexter.
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  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't give you guys any fun nicknames this week,
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  Speaker 2: but all right, we'll figure out next week. But wow,
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  Speaker 2: what an article this week. I did not read it.
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  Speaker 2: I have briefly skimmed, and might I say I got
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  Speaker 2: a little chubb, just a little I will. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: how far it goes. But we're just going to read
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  Speaker 2: it aloud, right, like what the work he does. He's
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  Speaker 2: not very good at reading. He's going to have to
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  Speaker 2: get his finger out right so I can point to
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  Speaker 2: the words as I read. But we're going to give
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  Speaker 2: this a shot. So it's been a few months since
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  Speaker 2: the robin Hood patch. Is that what updates and ratas
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  Speaker 2: are called? An altered patches? I really don't like that.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like they're called patches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't ask me why. It rubs me the wrong way,
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  Speaker 2: but it kind of does. And we've learned a lot
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  Speaker 2: from it and drastically improved our investment process in reviewing
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  Speaker 2: the cards to come, especially the uniques and their algorithm.
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  Speaker 2: Thank Jesus, maybe Lyra can get something. Balancing cards for
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  Speaker 2: a competitive metagame is such a big challenge, however, and
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  Speaker 2: while we believe we are working in the right direction,
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  Speaker 2: some impacts are already felt about the noose, about the
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  Speaker 2: sets that have already done trial by Frost. For example,
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  Speaker 2: we spent we sent a print early fall of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four. Wow, so you're talking like four months ago,
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  Speaker 2: five months ago they sent it to print at Equinox.
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  Speaker 2: It is our highest importance to provide you with the
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  Speaker 2: best gameplay experience, and we know the disparities and power
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  Speaker 2: levels may lead to an unhealthy or unbalanced and unhealthy metagame,
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  Speaker 2: which can be frustrating. Today, we are deciding to act
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  Speaker 2: preemptively on cards we think are potential issues for the
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  Speaker 2: future of the game and your enjoyment. This is especially
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  Speaker 2: true when it comes to unique cards, as we don't
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  Speaker 2: want the competitive metagame to be shifting around specific unique cards.
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  Speaker 2: They would be so good they'll become overwhelmingly rare and
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  Speaker 2: hard to find. This could be a split within the
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  Speaker 2: player base between those who have the resources to find
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  Speaker 2: the best cards in the shifting metagame and those who
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  Speaker 2: don't and would become frustrated within balance. The situation would
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  Speaker 2: be against the core values of accessibility altereds is championing.
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  Speaker 2: And this is why we think preventing these situations before
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  Speaker 2: they're happening is better than having them happen and fixing
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  Speaker 2: them afterwards. Can we just everybody, just can we just me?
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  Speaker 4: Is that a slow clap you're starting?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, this is hold on, let me get
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  Speaker 2: closer to the mic. That isn't That is a fantastic clap.
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  Speaker 2: This is what this is the shit? This this little paragraph,
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  Speaker 2: right this is the game I've been searching for, right like,
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  Speaker 2: this is this I I really, I honestly thought key
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  Speaker 2: Forde was this game. And the more I went into
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  Speaker 2: key Forge, the more I found out that this was
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  Speaker 2: not true. Right like, and it's just in that like
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  Speaker 2: those two sentence, this could cause a split betw within
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  Speaker 2: the player base between those who have the resources to
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  Speaker 2: find the best cards for shifting metagames and those who
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  Speaker 2: don't and will become frustrated with the imbalance. This situation
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  Speaker 2: would go against the core values of accessibility altered as championing. Right, So,
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  Speaker 2: just that line where they're like, hey, we realized this
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  Speaker 2: could become a problem and lead to people going, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I'm good and leaving the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like this part of the article is
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  Speaker 4: the part that nobody read. They just scrolled down to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the changes more like more than likely because forever
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  Speaker 3: and ever and ever I have been I mean shit,
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  Speaker 3: I'm thirty seven years old, right I started playing card games.
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  Speaker 2: I started, Oh god, I'm gonna date myself with the
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  Speaker 2: original Star Wars t CCG from Decipher And since that time,
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  Speaker 2: I have looked for a game, searched for a game
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  Speaker 2: desperately in the CCG and TCG realm where player skilled
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  Speaker 2: meant more than your pocketbook, And forever and ever and ever,
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  Speaker 2: they just did it. Card games have come, card games
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  Speaker 2: have gone, and finally, it finally looks like somebody was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is what we want and what we're championing, championing, championing,
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  Speaker 2: and this is where we want. We want players skill
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  Speaker 2: to be better than the pocketbook. You can't just buy
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  Speaker 2: your way into victories, because nothing pisses me off more
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  Speaker 2: than somebody who just buys their wins and dexter. You
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  Speaker 2: and I had to talk about this not too long ago.
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  Speaker 2: Where we talked about uniques, where it very much felt
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  Speaker 2: like Altered was shifting into if you have it, you
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  Speaker 2: have it. If you don't, you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you have the expensive uniques, you're on top of
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  Speaker 2: the world. If you don't, you're on the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: the ship pile.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when we get into the later cards that they
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  Speaker 4: break down, you'll see that that's kind of exactly what
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  Speaker 4: they're targeting.
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  Speaker 2: And it's and I just got to say this, fucking bravo,
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  Speaker 2: bra fucking bravo, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely cards that people spent close to one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 4: to just get one card.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and saying that I number one, I said, bravo.
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  Speaker 2: And just so you know you're getting my live reactions
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  Speaker 2: on these. The other two have read this article already.
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  Speaker 2: I was a bad content creator. That's why we're only
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  Speaker 2: number sixty nine, and the content creators for Altered and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get an opportunity to read this article and
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  Speaker 2: it kind of just fell into our laps. So we
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  Speaker 2: are reading this. I am live reading it. I'm three
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  Speaker 2: paragraphs and I'm already loving it. I'm ready. I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: to quit that other shit game I play just just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: We are always looking for ways to improve how we
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  Speaker 2: engage with our community and keep the game feeling fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Inspired by digital games, we're implementing specific momentum to create
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  Speaker 2: structured updates and more chosen cohesive experence experience. Here's why
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  Speaker 2: community milestones are predictable updates. By scheduling larger cohesive patches
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  Speaker 2: into season cycles, we can improve planning and communication. It
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  Speaker 2: gives players clarity and when to expect significant changes and
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  Speaker 2: minimizing surprising adjustments. I think I'm crying. I'm peering up
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And isn't this.
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  Speaker 2: Every card gamer's wet dream.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll all be the person that read way too
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  Speaker 4: much of the discord and spent way too much time
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  Speaker 4: conversating with all sorts of different people about their love
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  Speaker 4: of this or a hate of this. And this is
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  Speaker 4: the one area where my opinion is they have no
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  Speaker 4: way to win. And I also think this is another
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  Speaker 4: part of the article that a lot of people didn't
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  Speaker 4: read because a huge complaint is people will either feel
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  Speaker 4: it was too soon or too late and they wish
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  Speaker 4: they would have had more of a notice. But if
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  Speaker 4: you read that right there, that says that's exactly what
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  Speaker 4: they're working towards. And obviously the game is not even
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  Speaker 4: six months old yet.
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  Speaker 2: But this is every like, oh my god, this is
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  Speaker 2: every every other card game that I've ever played. Communication
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  Speaker 2: and decision making is like the one thing that every
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  Speaker 2: card game has in common, where the creator does just
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  Speaker 2: doesn't communicate enough and makes a decision that pisses off
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  Speaker 2: the community, whether it's good or bad. Right, Like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we joke on our cons corner about gig like they
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  Speaker 2: released like three articles in a month and where like
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  Speaker 2: they filled their quota for the year, like they don't
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  Speaker 2: got to release no more. You know, this is like saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna have these cycles so you can plan for them.
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  Speaker 2: So in the future, maybe you don't spend a bucket
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  Speaker 2: of money on that card until like a month later,
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  Speaker 2: just to wait and see what a novel concept. Because
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  Speaker 2: let's be honest, you spending a bucket of money on
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  Speaker 2: the secondary market because them is zero good as far
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  Speaker 2: as I see. I've always understood a strong secondary market
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  Speaker 2: makes a strong game. But there's nothing like spending a
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  Speaker 2: bucket of money into something just to find out that
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  Speaker 2: it's no longer no longer a thing, right, Man of
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  Speaker 2: crypt Commander players.
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  Speaker 5: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Better planification and efficiency. I didn't realize plantification was a word.
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  Speaker 2: By introducing structured milestone milestone, season patches enable our design
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  Speaker 2: team to better align their workflow, plan new features, and
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  Speaker 2: ensure polished, cohesive updates. This planning cycle allows us to
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  Speaker 2: maintain consistency and development while adopt adapting to player feedback
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  Speaker 2: between patches, flexibility for emergencies. While season patches are the focus,
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  Speaker 2: we were remain prepared for emergency patches with critical balance
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  Speaker 2: or technical issues around when they arise. The season structure
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  Speaker 2: merely helps reduce unnecessary complications while ensuring smoother operations. We're
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  Speaker 2: therefore implementing the following milestones before both at the start
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  Speaker 2: of the season, just before the release of a new set,
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  Speaker 2: and towards the middle of the season approximately two months
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  Speaker 2: after releases a set, a patch dedicated to updating the
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  Speaker 2: game if necessary. A state of the game AMA asks
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  Speaker 2: me anything hosted on our YouTube? I almost say your YouTube,
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  Speaker 2: like yeah, come on in channel with our game to designs.
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  Speaker 2: This is an opportunity for the community to learn more
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  Speaker 2: about the team's vision of the game, share your own perspectives,
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  Speaker 2: and engage in a meaningful discussion.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just for anyone listening on the A M.
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  Speaker 4: A part, Equinox is currently moving offices, So while they
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  Speaker 4: would have wanted to do this live day or this
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  Speaker 4: weekend or early next week, it'll be this first one
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  Speaker 4: will just be a little delayed from the article.
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  Speaker 2: Which I don't think anybody is like really gonna be
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  Speaker 2: upset about that. There's probably gonna be a few grumpy
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  Speaker 2: old turns out there who are like, if they said
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  Speaker 2: they were gonna do consistency.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you're You're hard for us to hear on
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  Speaker 4: discord for the moment. Lookie, So I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: you got the phone, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Hear them perfectly.
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  Speaker 5: Really.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, maybe it's me all along. Maybe my headset
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  Speaker 4: is just sticking.
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  Speaker 2: It's I I.
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  Speaker 4: What no I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna sing the Taylor Swiss song. It's me
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  Speaker 2: on the problem problem.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So I I will also say I didn't read
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  Speaker 4: like this part thoroughly because I once I saw what
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  Speaker 4: was going on in this article, I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this is obviously the podcast topic. But I would say
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  Speaker 4: to anyone who just skipped straight to the suspensions and
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  Speaker 4: patches and things like that. I really think this part
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  Speaker 4: right here if you actually read it satisfied and listen
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  Speaker 4: of the complaints I saw a lot of in the discord.
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  Speaker 2: Listen. If you guys don't want to read it, just
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  Speaker 2: join us. I'll read it to you. Yep, yep, get
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  Speaker 2: yourself a little blanky, a little snuggy, and some pop part.
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  Speaker 2: I'll read it to you. Story time with Wookie, all
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  Speaker 2: making the right calls between rata, suspensions, and bans. TCGs
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  Speaker 2: are intricate games, with hundreds of different game pieces interacting
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  Speaker 2: with each other. Because of this, some cards will eventually
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  Speaker 2: end up stronger than we thought, dominating the metagame and
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  Speaker 2: requiring us to step in. The most common solution is
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  Speaker 2: to ban cards. While banning is never a great experience
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  Speaker 2: for players, it is an effective way to remove a
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  Speaker 2: problematic card from the game. In this dilemma, we know
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  Speaker 2: that some players will be happy to see the oppressive
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  Speaker 2: card go, while others will be sad to lose their
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  Speaker 2: favorite card or combo. Some players will remain with unusable cards,
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  Speaker 2: and some cool designs will be forgotten or remembered as
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  Speaker 2: this was this cool card that was way too good
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  Speaker 2: The game design team is also very attached to each
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  Speaker 2: of its designs, and seeing a cardgo is always something
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  Speaker 2: we regret. We feel like we could have nailed the design,
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  Speaker 2: and the banning it is a waste of what would
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  Speaker 2: have been a great design. As both physical and digital games,
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  Speaker 2: Altered can track collect player collections like a digital game.
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  Speaker 2: This lets us update cards through eratas and use pod
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  Speaker 2: technology to ensure the updated cards are available to players.
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  Speaker 2: As you've seen with Robinhood, finding a great erotom for
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  Speaker 2: a card can be both a puzzle and an entire craft.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of constraints that are imposed by
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  Speaker 2: the original design. People are accustomed to how cards work,
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  Speaker 2: it costs, its cost, and its stats. The more we change,
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  Speaker 2: the harder it is for everyone to remember the erotum
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  Speaker 2: and have an enjoyable experience. Arata are also a form
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  Speaker 2: of gamble, as you can only realistically erotom a card
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  Speaker 2: once or people will never be able to keep track
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  Speaker 2: of it, which means you need to get it right
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  Speaker 2: the first time. In the case of robin Hood, we
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  Speaker 2: thought Robinhood was acceptable and power level, and we were wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and it's core ability creating too much of a frustrating
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  Speaker 2: play experience that we felt we needed to address the
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  Speaker 2: card as an emergency. Power level outliers will trigger a
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  Speaker 2: desire for action and our part, but it takes time
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  Speaker 2: to dedicate. It takes time to dedicate the necessary resources
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  Speaker 2: on the matter and come up with a satisfactory solution
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  Speaker 2: introducing I don't know if y'all can hear that suspense.
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  Speaker 4: Noise gates too good, damn. So all right, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give a disclaimer to people listening to this
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  Speaker 4: because it's it is not a ban, which I know
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  Speaker 4: people hate when I say that, because other card games
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  Speaker 4: have been known to suspend a card and leave it
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  Speaker 4: for months and never come back to it. This whole
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  Speaker 4: thing is about how Altered doesn't intend to do that,
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  Speaker 4: and Eric in talks in discord and repeatedly said they
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  Speaker 4: are working on these cards right now with the intention
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  Speaker 4: of getting them back to play as soon as possible.
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  Speaker 4: So I know people hate when I say it's not
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  Speaker 4: a band, But I also think because a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people don't actually read the articles, it is really disingenuous
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  Speaker 4: to say Haven is banned. Haven is banned. All my
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  Speaker 4: cards are useless now. While the change might make it
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  Speaker 4: so you don't want to play it. The card is
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  Speaker 4: not banned. That's that's my.
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  Speaker 2: PSA well for now, right, So there it's banned for
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  Speaker 2: now with the intention of coming back to it in
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  Speaker 2: a different state.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and it should only be a couple weeks hopefully,
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  Speaker 4: is there is their hope it's not going to be
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  Speaker 4: like the cards suspended in it comes back set five.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Bear, and I think it would be reasonable for
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  Speaker 6: like two or three of the cards to come back
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  Speaker 6: in like a few weeks and then a few other
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  Speaker 6: ones like take longer or something for them to figure
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  Speaker 6: out how to patch it perfectly, because some of them
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  Speaker 6: are going to be more difficult than others.
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  Speaker 2: So suspensions introducing suspensions. The suspension is a temporary ban
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  Speaker 2: we use when we aim to find a suitable rodom
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  Speaker 2: for a problematic card. However, finding the right rottom is
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  Speaker 2: a meticulous work that takes time, and not every card
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  Speaker 2: will have a solution. While we strive to resolve suspensions
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  Speaker 2: whenever possible, some cards may ultimately remain suspended for a
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  Speaker 2: while or end up permanently banned. Let's talk about the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: trial by frost season patch important. This patch will can
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  Speaker 2: be considered effective with the release of this article. However,
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  Speaker 2: due to some technical challenges for its implementation on our
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  Speaker 2: app and consequencely its effectiveness on board game Arita, the
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  Speaker 2: digital patch will be applied at a later date as
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  Speaker 2: soon as possible in the coming weeks. We understand that
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  Speaker 2: it's not an ideal situation, and we like to apologize
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  Speaker 2: for the inconvenience many players for our community will not
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  Speaker 2: see the article, and well, we'vet is so weird. We
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: talked about all like the more you go to different
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: card games, the more things stay the same. Like we're
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: all sitting here right, we're reading this article, but like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: there are tons of people who will never see this article,
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  Speaker 2: never read it, and just be like, oh that card
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  Speaker 2: is now whatever my buddy told me, and they just
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  Speaker 2: never hear about it again.
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  Speaker 4: But there were a couple people that stopped going to
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  Speaker 4: our locals and the reason was Waroo in robin Hood
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  Speaker 4: And they never knew that robin Hood was rated in
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  Speaker 4: tel the Trial by Frost pre release. And they literally said,
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  Speaker 4: I would have come back sooner if I knew that
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  Speaker 4: they changed Robinhoods.
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  Speaker 2: Why you got to listen to Altered Corner exactly, We're
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  Speaker 2: going to keep it. One hunter with you, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I lost my place. Others will unknowingly launch games on
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  Speaker 2: board game Arena with decks that shouldn't be legal anymore.
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  Speaker 2: The most important thing to us is that we believe
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  Speaker 2: you all as a community will be helpful and patient
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  Speaker 2: with those that didn't get the memo and explain that
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the update with them in the future. A digital patch
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: will clearly prevent the deck builder from accessing a card
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: that is not legal. A card that has been erotted
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: will be erotted within the system, and it's patch notes
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: integrated to it, like we did with robin An all
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: necessary visual information available. There should be little to no
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: confusion regarding casual organized play weekly expeditions. In case you
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: would be playing against someone who does bring a card
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: that is supposed to be erotted or suspended, we believe
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: in most cases the simplest thing to do is to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: put the card aside from play and let them draw
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: another card and replacement. Regarding WAHU, applying its rottom should
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: be fine, even if the card has not been reprinted
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: as for as for the existing robin Hood. Regarding competitive play,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: all players attending are expected to be aware of the
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: latest updates about the game. However, we strongly suggest tournament
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: organizers warn their attendance at the registration phase. Arbitual decisions
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: will be made accordingly to the current tournament guidelines. All right,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: so time to get into the brass tacks.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: This part here. I feel people I don't know people
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: are cops or something, but like, since the article says
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: that it is considered effective, now people are like, oh
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: my god, I can't take my deck to my weekly
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: play like it's just ruined. And how we dealt with
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: it in our local and how I know a couple
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: other people did, is we just let people know, Hey,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: this change is being made. If you have it in
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: your deck, that's fine, whatever, it's no big deal. Everyone
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: here is cool with it. Or the situation that they
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: pointed out here also perfectly valid if people want to
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: do that. This article does not make it so where
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: if everyone is fine at your locals, you playing certain
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: things for the next couple of days or whatever, Like
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Equinox isn't going to come and shut down the store.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Not true. I've heard I've heard Loki is coming to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: shut down all those stars immediately.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's honestly. How some people.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: He's got a key to all of them, and he
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: will be personally coming to confiscate your cards.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how we dealt with robin Hood at packs even
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: though the errata was like a month ahead. We just
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: printed out flyers that showed what the new robin Hood was.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: So if anyone brought the card, it's like, hey, this
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: is what it actually says, and it was easy good
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: to go.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Oh goodness, I am tired. All right, let's get into
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: wah ruin Mac. He has changed substantially. All right, are
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we ever going to see Noble one again? Is Zach
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: ever coming back? They just they just keep kicking a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: all right, Warru and Mac used to read at noon.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: If you control one or more bureaucrats, create an artist,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: recruit one on one token soldier in target expedition. When
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: you play a bureaucrat, you may have it gain a sleep.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Now he just reads, when you play a bureaucrat, it
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: gains asleep.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Can we just take a moment to mention how beautiful
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the card looks now though, compared to the fucking clutter
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: taste wall I. I will recuse myself for most of
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: this reaction and let Dexter have.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: His top plain, I honestly don't have that much to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: say anymore. Like when I first saw this, I was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: extremely pissed, and for like a good thirty seconds there,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm quitting this game. How could they
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: kill my favorite hero like this? But like, honestly, it's fine.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I can move on.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Guess what, at least your favorite hero wasn't killed by
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: another card's banning or are rotams so kick Trey Sting?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Then Ben is like now like I don't want to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: say I'm playable but not great. Ever since Robin Hood's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: been was arata like Fenn has not been what Fenn
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: used to be.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: That is true.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Trace came out hardy. Also, Dexter, you have to remember,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Lookie is reading this live.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: So yes, well we gotta like, okay, I don't know
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: about what.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Right whatever this does, Like, I think this is complete
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: overkill on war. Honestly, if they had just removed the bureaucrats,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I think it would still be like a bad hero
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and probably like b tier. But since they also force
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you to make all of your beaucrats gain a sleep
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and you don't have a choice, that means at the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: end of the game. If you ever want to push,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you cannot push because all of your cards will be
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: asleep and the only card to wake it up is
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: now going to be half to run in all War decks.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: The what's that card called.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Rallying Call?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Rallying Call, Yeah, that's going to be a must play
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: in all War decks, and War did not want that
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: previously at all. And now War is going to run
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a lot less bemocrats and it's not making tokens and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: War is dead. Sad day.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: All right, well, kie, you, as a casual player, how
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: do you feel seeing this fuck players? So I'll try
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: to give the most understanding response because I've already fought
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: it out in the discord with people being way too extreme,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: so I can agree to some point that maybe the
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: errata is a little too far, But at the same time,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's as harsh as war players react
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: to it. I honestly think Warrio players have been very
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: extremely spoiled, and now they just sound like someone who's
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: been so spoiled not knowing what to do.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Oh now I have to play the game for real.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: From the From the outside, I think this causes some
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: very interesting interactions and maybe some different warrior decks that
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: we could see the problem with, agreeing that it might
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: be too far is I don't know if there's any
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: other way to do it where he isn't still just
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: as much of a problem, like, okay, see, but then
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: he's still too strong in my opinion, Well.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: That's okay that you should try to play with Waru
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: being able to make tokens.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: You cannot make me do that. I'm already playing gul
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Ring for you people. I'm not playing war You're gonna
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: have to You're gonna have to figure it out for yourself.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: But the other suggestion people have had is to just
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: have it be you may sleep. I just think it's
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: still so strong because if you compare it to Tasia,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: all Tasa does is the first character she plays each
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: afternoon gets a boost, not any player after, not anything
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: else she can do. So if I were to consider
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: making Tajia in line with Waru, I would say every
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: plant she plays games anchored or something, and every time
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I mentioned and anything like that, everyone else is like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: oh my god, are you insane? That's way too busted,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, it's literally what Warho does.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: If it was every plant gets asleep. I think that
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: would be fair, but giving an anchor where stat Stoll
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: counts does seem quite a bit strong to me.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: See But the thing you got to remember is Tasia
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: does not have access to as many low cost units
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: as Waru, and none of those plants have super good
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: abilities besides out, so you can play quits at the
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: same time. Though I'll accept the sleep, I'll fucking rocket,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: So I'm down.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I'm happy about it. I mean, yeah, I've seen or
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: at least one of my lifetimes.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Move on.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I had the conversation earlier today with someone
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: in the discord talking about how they've spent so much
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: money and they're upset and all this and that because
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: of worry when everything and I'm always trying to come
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: from an angle of what's the best for the most people,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: but unfortunately some people are I mean, humans in general
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: are often very selfish, and if it it's not something
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: that benter sits them directly, they don't want it to happen.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: So when what's funny is people will try to make
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: a poll like what do you think about this patch?
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: And every time they do it, the results of like
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: the greater amount of people are positive, and then the
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: person who made the pole looks like a fool because
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: they were doing the pole to think that it was
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: going to back up their idea. But if a change
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: in the game is the best for the most people
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: and makes the most people happy, I am for it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: And I'll even use the example if they nerve tiny Gin,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: literally my favorite card. If they told me that it
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: wins sixty five percent of games and people are having
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: a hard time against it, cool, Okay, I understand, let's go.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I do think this is definitely the best for the majority,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and Water players are of course going to be solid
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and think it got Nerve too hard. And I think
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: ninety of the previous competitive Waroo players will just completely
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: play a different hero. I've talked to a couple of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: different Waroo players. They literally laughed at me when I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: asked if they were going to stay on Waru. So
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the major consensus is Waroo's dead people are just going
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to move to other things, and I think overall the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: metashift will be healthy and the most people will be
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: happy about it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Should we move into Ozma.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: You don't want to read all about the words?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Where do you want me to read?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: It.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's sad. At one point in time,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: they did.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Talk about data and trends in competitive play saying how
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: it's oppressive, and they have data saying how it's too strong,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and also that in later specifically in later iterations in
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: later sets, when they add more cards, that's just going
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: to keep making water stronger with more better bureaucrats. So
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: they felt like doing this now was good since later
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: on it would just keep getting better and make.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Two young people look at shadow Drake in the In
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the chat, because this is something I tend to agree with,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: they talk about not lying to Ride multiple times. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: am convinced that this is in prep for set three.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: For Set three, Wahru, I agree, And then same reason.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert for those of you playing along at home,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: preemptively hit Linduay's jellyfish. She's going to get major support
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: in the next set.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is preemptive for a few different characters.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Right, but Ozma, We'll go through Ozma, Ozma and the
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Rare and ortis Rare, not any other rare, just the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: ortist Rare have been suspended while Robin Hood has all
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: eyes on him. Ozma was one of the reasons we
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: saw Ortist decks at the top of most tournament results.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Is a key piece of both Sigasmar and Wau decks,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: allowing them to play a lot of cheap cards at
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: virtually no deck building costs, and they have access to
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of card advantage. Boy, at least they're starting
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to look at that because like some factions have no
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: ways of like their card starved, and some factions just
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: draw their entire deck at the common, the highest win
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: rate on BGA is fifty nine percent. That's crazy. It
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: seems way too good and deserves a suspension. Finding a
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: proper round for Ozma isn't easy, and as its identity
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: revolves around drawing a card, and part of its problem
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: is its mane cost of two. Unfortunately, once it gets
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: up to three, Ozma becomes incredibly similar to Babi Yaga,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and we do not want them both to share the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: same design space. While we haven't found a satisfactory around
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: them yet, we are continuing to test and explore possible solutions.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: For now, we've decided to suspend both the common and
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: ortis rare version of Ozma. Suspending only the common would
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: likely lead players to use the rare version, which wouldn't
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: address the underlying issue. Similarly, by rodding the comma to
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: make that rotting the comma to something that looks completely
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: different from the rare could cause confusion, making it hard
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: for players to understand and connect and understand the connection
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: between the two cards. By suspending both versions together, we
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: ensure that we are introducing an erata. Both versions will
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: reflect the card's original design intent in a consistent way.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: The Bravos version of Ozma, however, aligns more closely with
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the original vision for the card. Its card draw requires
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: more build up, which better matches the strategic choices we
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: wanted to encourage.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: I think this one was the only one that kind
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: of surprised me. But then if you read through this,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, yeah, that makes total sense. And I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: think the only reason it's a surprise is because it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: a very like passive thing that gives a big benefit,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Like it's not something that's just actively crushing you, but
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: it is giving them card draw very easily, which, as
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: it states, is the single common with the highest win
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: rate on BGA. So yeah, that makes sense. I've seen
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: people suggest just changing it to if you control three
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: or more other non token characters draw card, which is
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: probably not a bad bet to see.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I was just going to ask that because it's like, well,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: it just makes sense because of the amount of token
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that they create. If we don't include token characters, what
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: change does that make?
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would also think a fair errata, and this
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: will probably make a lot of people not like it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: But the common from hand only and non token characters,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: they're rare from anywhere and non token characters, and I
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: think that's pretty pretty good balance from my brain at least.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: But the designers have a better design brain than I do.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Let's move. Let's move into the next thing that brought
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: a smile to my face. Haven Bravospacs Bravos Bastion Axiom
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Rare suspended suck it axiom. Anyways, the axiom version of
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Haven Bravos Bastion is probably the best rare card and
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: beyond the gates. It's been played a lot in traced
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and Subash Subash decks and even in some Sierra decks
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: since it's been revealed, and to great success. While it
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: is an astonishing sixty three percent win rate, when you
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: draw the card it shows up at it shows a
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: forty nine percent when you don't, which leads to the
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: feeling of randomness when playing against Haven decks. If your
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: opponent has it, you may just lose fourteen percent win rate,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: which can feel bad, especially if it shows up in
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the early days of the game. I believe we've talked
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: about this with Haven, how it's like, if you get it,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you win. If you don't, you lose. The combination of
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: low cost resupply adding it, and long term advantage in
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: the game all those in a faction with an abundance
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: of one cost cards from the reserve make it a
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: little too much for the axiom Rare Bastion Aban Bravos
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Bastion is a very powerful strategic card, which means its
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: power level may only grow over time. This means rotting
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: It is a challenging task because we need to find
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the proper power level that won't become too good after
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: a few sets. Simply removing the resuppliability and the card
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: might prove still too good eventually, and we want to
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: be certain of the actions we take. In addition, upping
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: its manecost to the three may buff the card in
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the Sierra Dex, resulting in extensive testing for us on
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: a various versions of the card. While the Bravos version
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: also has these elements, it doesn't prove to be an
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: issue because it isn't featured in a faction with cards
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: cheaper from the reserve and a lot of resupply. Its
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: data doesn't show any warning on our side, and feedback
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: from players doesn't indicate that we should take action on
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: it anytime soon. For now, we have found a satisfying
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: we haven't found the satisfying around them, and we'll keep
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: investigating slash testing various solution. As a result, we've decided
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: to suspend the axiom Rare Haven Bravo Sebastian.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this one is one I will say. I honestly
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: have no clue how to better balance this. I think
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: removing the resupply doesn't really do enough, and as they've mentioned,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: you can't really just up the mane cost. Sierra is
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: already getting kind of scary in Trial by Frost, which
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: would just make her even scarier. And yeah, it's just
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: way too cheap for way too much, and it's it's tough.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sure lots of people have lots of ideas on
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: what they think would be better, but I wouldn't be
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: surprised if the rata on this comes out and is
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: some thing almost nobody thought about, because that's kind of
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: how Robinhood turned out, is what the game designers came
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: up with was not what the you know, common public,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: uh came up with themselves.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think this needed to be suspended.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: The whole roulette thing. If you draw it, it's great.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: If you don't draw it, you lose. I think a
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: possible erna could be like two from hand, three from reserves,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: so you don't get the Sierra to be better, but
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it does cost more if it goes into the reserve
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: no resupply. And then I saw someone else put a
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: suggestion somewhere of like a maximum amount of boosts that
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you can get is like five, so when you play it,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you put five counters on it, and then whenever you
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: play a card from reserve, it gets a boost and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you take a counter off. So the maximum amount of
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: like bonus stats you can get that about.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: For three is that forever, like you get five, and
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: that's once it's out of counters, it's it's it's it's done.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So they that person actually posted in our discord
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: as well the suggestion people are bringing up, so it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: actually Anthony or on BGA, it's Yo, and Yo is
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: actually a very good player, so that's they kind of
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: put together a suggestion in line with that. One of
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: the things I just thought about is they could change
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: it to a gear, keep it the.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Exact same and then once you only get it for
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the Yeah, that's actually not a terrible idea. Yeah, because
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: once once you move forward, it goes, well, then it goes.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: But I think you would still have to do what
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Dexter's saying and put it because it would go into
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: your or do you give it no? Do you give
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: it fleeting then?
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Or you And there is our our colaanno milk. But
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: the milk gives everything that enters fleeting, right, this would
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: not give anything fleeting, and it would have the resupply.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I think you also have to up the resupply cost.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not the resupply cost, the firm reserve cost.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So I think it would still be easily the
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: strongest gear, but it would still not be as strong
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: as it is now. Is a doom bringer calling me
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: out here? I like how you said, I just had
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: an idea and came up with the same thought at
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: the same time. What what are you.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Talking about stealing people's ideas?
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Whose idea?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I think he's talking about me. I stole the other
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: person's idea. I was I was bad at work. I
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: took the idea for recognize that it was not my idea.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Shout out to you. Yeah, I think the resupply or
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: the reserve cost thing might might work out as well,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: and maybe removing the resupply because one of the reasons
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: that the resupply from anywhere is so strong is it
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: is kind of ridiculous. How often you'll see a traced
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: or someone that runs this play it and resupply right
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: into their second one and then you're just like, fuck.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: So make resupply costs more. And what was the other
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: what was another portion of that? Oh, make it into
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: a gear. I don't know how you make it into
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a gear. It's a little not thematic, but I guess
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: if it makes the world go around, it's works in
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: I think it makes it interesting and it fits in
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: the new meta because, for an example, how people will
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: play like the eat Me energy bars is they'll put
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: it in the expedition they know isn't going to move forward. Well,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: it'll help them win on the other expedition, so it
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: stays around longer. So it being a gear kind of
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: makes it interesting mechanically. I would not be surprised if
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: they definitely don't want to add it to the gear
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: realm fair enough.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe they don't call it a gear,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: but they can say once once your expedition moves destroy Haven, Bravos,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: bast and destroy me. Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I means, as Yo put together, counters would not be
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: too bad and it would be thematic to axiom, So
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: that's not a terrible idea either.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Still tired, you need cards? You Neque cards are designed
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to be an unexpect and surprise to players, but sometimes
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: they could also create unexpected issues to the game designers.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: As we work on new sets, we consistently we're consistently
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: we're finding a unique card generation algorithm, and we expect
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the need for balance changes to decrease over time. We
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: love uniques as part of altered gameplay, but we don't
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: want the game to be dominated by them like it
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: is right now. Right now, some powerful outliers may give
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the impression, may give that impression in some cases, the
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: solutions will be to suspend a specific type of effect
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: that appears across many unique cards, while others it will
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: involve suspending certain versions from specific families the following unique
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: cards which emerging which emerge during Beyond the Gates. We're
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: fine within the metagame. However, we realized that they could
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: become problematic in Trials by Frost, and we want to
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: address these issues before they arise. So first up, we
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: got the moon Lit Jet or Moonlight Jellyfish, all uniques,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: all factions suspended.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this this one is is really awesome because people,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: of course are upset about a bunch of these because
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: they're uniques and they don't want to not play with
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: their uniques. And then a couple few other people will
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: complain that they just spent eight hundred dollars on a
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: unique and they can't play it. But the best reaction
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I saw is someone recently got the Moonlight Jellyfish tattooed
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: on them and they're like, no, I just got the
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Jellyfish tattooed, and now I can't play with it.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Now you're suspended.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: But they were actually so sad.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were actually the least upset person. Ever, they
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: were like obviously joking the tattoos. The tattoos fucking cool.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: But the thing with uniques that people it's it's a
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: hard thing to understand because people sought them out and
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: bought them because of the fact that they are basically busted.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: These jellyfish. A lot of people don't know, but it
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: was the I think it was the first ludo trotter
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: because that's still up on thirty nine cards. While I
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: while I look for this, I also want to say,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: super awesome website design for this article. If you click
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: on the Haven Bravos fashion you can access the details
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: of the cards right from the article. Uh so that
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: was very nice. What is it, Skykryer? Those are spindle harvesters. Anyways,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: there was us someone who got these jellyfish and in
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: a thousand person tournament they were in the top ten
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: and it was causing a ton of problems because they
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: are infinite. So these jellyfish are the reason the one
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: hundred action cap was put into the rules. So knowing
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: all of that, I don't understand how people couldn't see
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: that it was gonna get hit with a chain.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Something was gonna get hit. Yeah, the moon that jellyfish,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: with their ability to lose fleeting when sacrifice, can lead
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: to strange inneractions when players can loop two of them together,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: generating a massive advantage with minimal cost. For example, a
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: player can loop them for just one man at each
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: time while simultaneously boosting a mow for two every time
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: even without the loop. These jellyfish have proven to be
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: powerful enough that we felt action was necessary. Issue becomes
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: even more problematic when we consider that some jellyfish can
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: return themselves to hand Due to the complex effects, adding
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: layer is an interaction that we can't always anticipate. These
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: kinds of rules interactions, while fascinating, introduce a level of
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: complexity that's not ideal for the maintaining balance and clarity
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: in the game. While we initially try to pinpoint and
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: suspend only the specific jellyfish causing the issue, we realize
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: that the problem runs deeper and involves interactions that are
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: difficult to address in isolation. If we only suspend certain versions,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: players will likely find the broken jellyfish we've missed exploiting them,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: and then we had to suspend those as well, creating
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: a cycle that we don't want to continue. To avoid
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: this we've decided to suspend all Moonlight jellyfish. We have
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: not yet found a satisfying a rottom for the jellyfish.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: We are continuing to test and explore potential solutions. For now,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: suspending all of is the most straightforward way to address
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: the issue.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they did it for Axiom too.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen any Axiom dudes that could really benefit
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: from infinite jellyfish because there's nothing to boost, right.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I couldn't answer specifically on that. Besides,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: maybe it's just a text issue, like robin Hood. A
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: lot of people forget that. Another major reason that robin
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Hood was eroted is because the text that existed. So
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: maybe it's because of that, and they're just going to
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: when they do the change, it's going to affect ones.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe they worded a little different and not necessarily the
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: fact that they were as crazy as the yzmir ones.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Well, there goes my whole idea. I was on building
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: knack Eye, thanks man. Anyway, it's foundry armor, all uniques
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Bravos only. So some of the Bravos unique foundry armors
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: featured the ability of generating a brass bug whenever you
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: gained a boost. The community quickly identified these uniques as
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: some of the most powerful things Bravos could do and
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: beyond the gates. Unfortunately, the trial by frost coming out
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: these cards may get out of control, generating an infinite
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: number of brass sprugs very easily with the print of
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: boost generators like our coll Oh my goodness, I hate
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: this card are colan, no milk? Thank you. Everyone can
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: now make fun of me. Go ahead, go ahead, make
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: fun of me. Not a soul huh wow, Okay, I'm
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: just gonna continue then, and Bravos rare yetti. As a
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: rule of thumb, we like to We like that combos
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: can exist an alter but we want them to require
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: some setup and assemble a common and unique card doesn't
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: feel difficult enough. Unlike the Moonlight Jellyfish, we are able
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: to identify specifically the uniques we would need to target
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: for the erotum, but due to the unforementioned weight for
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: digital patch, we have chosen to simply simplify the understanding
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: of the decision. In the meantime, there post Bravos Foundry
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Armor uniques are suspended for now without the Bravos cards
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: that enable those easy boost setups axiom unique boundary armorers
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: do not currently cause an issue and remain playable.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I just realized the one they put here was French.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I yeah, yeah, pretty quickly.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is just another one that people found a
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: way to make it so they were creating one hundred
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: grass bugs and it's I mean, yes, it's too strong,
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: and that is that should be a good enough reason.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: But also you're breaking things like you could probably break BGA.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: You're ruining a tournament, like all sorts of stuff. Mm hmm.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Like I told everyone on our cons corner earlier, you
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: can concede at anytime.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Well, on BGA you have to be over fifty percent.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, wow, maybe not on BGA.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe I counced at anytime you can tournaments you're never
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: allowed to concede.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: That's awful, that's not true, all right, So let's go
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: in to Garrick Revere duellists, all uniques, all factions suspended,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: very quickly spotted by you, our community. This trial by
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Frost comes with his own issues up to the point
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: where some of them even infinitely comba with themselves. This
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: is obviously not something that should belong and altered in
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: such a state. Of power level, and we believe it
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: needed to be addressed right now before the season really
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: starts and people invest in the chase. Hammering all unique
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: garricks from the start is a way to prevent any
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: yet unseen issues from getting out of control too quickly
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: while we investigate potential solutions. How does he boot? How
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: does he do it by himself? Let's see if you
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: would gain fleeting I gain a boost instead.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: A character. You can have a character gain fleeting fleeting
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: boost fleeting fleeting boost.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: You may have target character gain fleeting. Got it? Yeah,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the opportunities would be a problem.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is hilarious because it took I mean,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah I should I guess I shouldn't get annoyed.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: But as I've mentioned before, I spend way too much
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: time on the discord. So if you do that, and
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: you saw this card posted in eight different channels throughout
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: the same day, and it's not like it was two
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: different cards, it was the exact same card, And after
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: the seventh time, I'm like, yes, we know they're already
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: looking at it. Please stop posting it. Well, I mean
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I thought it nerves or sorry, suspended for now until
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: they change it. This one, This one should be pretty
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: easy to change, but once again, the digital aspect BGA.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: And then I think just seeing what other ones might
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: pop up, but this one is just we don't want. Technically,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: all of these are actually just stopping an infinite loop.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: So now that I'm reading them all through and putting
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: them all together, it's just really hard to see how
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: people can't understand why they need to be changed.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, this one didn't take me very long, and
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not the smartest, So I mean, isn't it easy
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: enough to just add other Well, I guess you could
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: just tire you If you have two of them, you
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: can just take it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: If you have two of them, yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: They can target each other.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Target character not named Garritt does that. That could probably work,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. That would be a weird thing
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: that we haven't seen put on cards yet.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Self referential texts, Yeah, that could be a little strange,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: all right. Player Compensation has stated in the article addressing
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: the Irodom of robin Hood we are still working on
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: the compensation system and will update the community as soon
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: as possible about it. Any solutions we come to will
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: of course be retroactive. Our number one goal remains to
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: remains for us to develop the game you want to play.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: By implementing these changes and suggesting regular updates where you,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: the players community, can communicate about the state of the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: game and what you'd like to see, we hope to
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: foster a space where you can feel part of the adventure,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: and as always, your feedback helps us grow. I would
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: like more lore about match Girl please.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Uh so you were you were talking about articles earlier
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: and Keyfarge. Does Keyfarde do like three total articles in
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: a month or do they they only do like three updates?
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: You're You're cute. It is very, very very It's sporadic. Yeah,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: that and that's really the only way I can say it.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: We have our so our big events and key Forge
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: are vault tours, right. We all apply out to these
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: places and we get ready for vaults, and then by
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: placing high end vaults, you're able to then get your
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: ticket to the World Championships, where you're then able to play.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: There is a format in key Forge called Alliance where
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: you're because typically are not allowed to change your decks.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Like you buy your deck and that's your deck. You
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: can't change it. There's a there is a format that
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: allows you to take decks apart and build one deck
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: and there is a band. Yeah, there's a ban and
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: restricted list, right, so you're not allowed to have this
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: card with this card in this car with this card
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: because it creates absolute and utter it has the ability
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: to create absolute and utter chaos. They so they gave
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: us the list of vaults and now have just given
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: us the updated rule books for what's going on in
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: the future and like what those what those decks or
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: what that that list is. So you got to remember,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: like our first vault is coming up in April. You
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: need to start like getting your ideas of like what
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: my deck's going to look like because some of these decks,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: like remember, everyone is unique, so if your eyeball in
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: one like that made deck, that deck might be in
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: France and it takes time to get from France to you,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: and it just creates kind of chaos when you're trying
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: to do this. I mean the last Bannon restricted list
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: from KeyForge U had a lot of people quit the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: game because they're decks that they had spent months testing
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: and getting ready for then got some of the cards
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: got put on this list, and some people spent a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: lot of money building these decks together. So just to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: give you an idea, I'm going into q forges of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: news article. So for the month of January, we got
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: an article on the thirty first, the sixteenth, and the nineteenth.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Before that, Crickets we got an article December nineteenth, December tenth,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: December third, So it looks like they're averaging around three
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: articles a month. Some articles are kind of useless.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: If those were kickstarter articles.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Um separate, yeah, they those they keep separate. Well, the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Prophetic Visions that was a Kickstarter thing, like but like
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: meet the Skyborn, right, that's like that was like the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: new faction for this previous set.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: That was like the lowre thing.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Nothing really comes out of it. That's more of just
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a like hey, check out these cards that are in
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Skyborne cool, right, like and that's it, right, and then like, oh,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: we're going to release and then they have like release articles,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: which is dumb because like, we've already had a game found,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: so they're like, oh, we did a game found and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: everybody has their product. Oh, now we're going to release
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: the set and everyone's like, we don't care, right, we
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: already have our ship from the game found. We don't
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: need any more. It's it's just weird. I mean, I'm
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: reading this and when they're saying, hey, we want to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: have like like you can expect a certain amount of time,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: like two months after release, expect an article talking about
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: changes that are going to happen. Right like two months
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: they feel is like enough time that they can get,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: you know, things sorted out, to see the good, the bad,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: and the ugly and make changes where appropriate. Yeah, wau
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: took six months, but whatever. Sometimes better late than never,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I suppose, right, changing a.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: Hero like a lot better.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Changing a hero is like you have to kind of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: really really like be careful with that. I mean you
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: did take a A plus tier hero and now kind
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: of move him into the B category.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: So so all all of that explanation and talk just
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: for me to respond with. Altered has posted seventeen articles
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: this month.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I literally it's like one every other.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Day, and one of them is about me.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, she just about to say that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: if you would like to know more about Cole Robbie,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: he had an article released about him. It has the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: same picture he has here on Discord. You can go.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: I find it funny that the did you even mention
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: that you're on a podcast.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: Or no, I'm not really a self promoter type person.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, you're not going to pimp you who
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: is the people? I'm the same, I'm not good at
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: pimping myself.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I did kind of mention, but just
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: lose a little bit. But Shadow Drake had a good
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: question about this, mentions curious to hear thoughts on the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: at dusk return of spell in reserve to hand ability
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: being untouched. So my quick reaction is, I don't think
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: it caused as many problems as these brass Bug and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: Jellyfish uniques, or at least not at the high level
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: that these did.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: And then I don't think we've seen it yet.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there's enough of them out there yet.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of variety, which also
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: might make it really hard to fix the variety in them.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: But I will say I would not be surprised if
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: the next update is somewhat tailored towards something like that
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: and the Funnest, because.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I would absolutely agree now that is changed.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: I wholehearedly think a Funas has the best hero ability
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: in the whole game.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think the non unique changes were a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: little bit preemptive, and then the unique changes were pretty
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: much like, if there's an infinite combo, we're gonna suspend
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: that for now and then try to make it so
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: it's not infinite. And since the spindles aren't infinite and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: that they haven't caused too many problems at the high
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: level competitive play yet, they haven't taken that away. But
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I think in later patches we will either see something
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: to a Fonness's hero ability or a suspension of the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Spindle Harvester uniques, or I don't know, some other.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Can we make some of these shit heroes better?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is another interesting thing. I think the heroes
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: that might not be fixed with more cards. I mean,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: maybe it's actually only one, and I think I think
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: it might just be Bassira. I would be happy with
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: a little bit of an ar ROC change. And this
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: is kind of getting off to the side, but I
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: suggested something I think in a YouTube video I have
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: coming out where to make ROC better. If you have
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: five counters, it goes off at dusk. And when I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: first thought about it, I was like, well, that would
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: kind of suck because then you know you're playing if
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: it's a character. You're playing it right at the end
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: and then it just goes away. But the more I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: thought about it, I was like, you know what, that
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: would actually be really cool and it's still highly risky,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: but it's way better than doing it at noon. So
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if they'll ever get buffs,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: but I think Bassira and Roc are probably one on.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: Saudi with the new set is actually looking pretty dangerous.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: L e O in the discord went undefeated. I'm pretty
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: sure on Thursday with his Saudi deck he'll have a
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: video coming out on it in the next couple of weeks.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: It's just Amrok triggering turn one. Yeah, that's strong.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, getting car drone is good.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah our June, Yeah, our June. I kind of just forgot,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely that we see heroes get buffs,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and that later sets they'll just keep adding more stuff
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: to help the other weaker heroes, and they will suspend
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: or change stuff that are too good to help them.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Meta stay healthy.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: Ye do you do you want me to give you
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: a rundown of the fire in the discord the last
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: forty eight hours, Wookie, are we or.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Moving, Yeah, not like, can we can do the fire
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: of the discord? I've I am not. I I don't
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: run the Altered Corner Discord as much or am I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: in there as much as I really should be.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, our discord Our discord was totally fine and the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: conversation was really good. Even if people think I'm crazy.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: Our discord fine.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I also run the Archives Corner Discord, and I don't
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: pay attention to what's going on in there either, So.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just try to speak to kind of the
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: public reaction as quickly as possible. The one thing I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: will say is I fully believe that a lot of
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: it is the vocal minority, where the people just come
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: to complain and they're the loudest while everyone else in
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: the audience is like, hell yeah, I fucking love this change.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: Kind of how lucky reacted everyone at my local it
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: was no issue at all. Everyone was happy. Wasn't any issue.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: There are a handful of people in the main Alter
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: Discord that I only see when they enter to cause problem.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: There, trying to argue and complain and cause flights. That's
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: the only time they pop.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: Up exactly, and then they're never in there. Movie comes out,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: So there was a lot of they should have communicated
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: this sooner, they should have done this later. They the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: timing of this was terrible. So the general complaint that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: I would say the most reasonable people have is the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: timing of it.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I'm of the camp what okay?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I think you're going to agree
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: with me?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. Why is the timing bad?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Every time they do a change, there's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: some really big tournament in Italy?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Is there a tournament going on soon?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: Is it? I ask?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: It's just what happens.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, but is that what's happening now?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Supposedly but supposedly what is it? The best cap secret
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: and altered? Like what?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I guess?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: So people that show up because they're the only nine
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: who know about it, what's the deal?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So another reason you're having a conundrum with this
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: is because it is not a problem that you can
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: solve because one group is saying it was too early,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: too quick, and the other group is going to say
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: it was too fast and or it was too late.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: I just said the same thing twice, or it was
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: too late, Like I had people saying you should have
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: done it before the card come out came out, and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: then there's people that said, the card's not even out yet,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: why would you do that? So I don't think you
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: can win on timing. Their article points out that they
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: want things to be more seamless with future changes, but
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: because of work on the market and all of that,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: it's a little harder. Right now. I think there's like
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: fifteen people total working on this game. The other thing
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: is people just really upset that they spent thousands of
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: dollars on cards and they've bought ten thousand dollars worth
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: of altered and this is going to turn people away
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: that spend a lot of money, so they're going to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: quit the game and the game is going to die.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: And I'm a friggin commie asshole, so I don't sympathize
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: with those people.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm not at all. I think if you have
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: the money to spend, and you're spending that kind of money,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: you can't complain when something that happens that was very
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: likely to happen, and you could have probably predicted that
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: was going to happen, like we saw the robin Hood
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: that happened, and then you knew that it was likely
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: that uniques were gonna get banned or suspended again, and
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: they still paid a whole bunch of money, and they
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: have the money to spend. It's your own fault, guys.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Now, some of the things like WAU getting changed, I
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: did not see that coming in a millionaires.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then there are people that only want to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: play Warrio and that's all they play, and now they're
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: kind of upset, which is which is fine.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: Which is me.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna play a different hero anyway.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I er if you didn't see that coming,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I can't help you there. The only one that really like,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it happens, but I'm sure someone
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: will explain it to me eventually was the Foundry Armor,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Moonlight Jellyfish. Once I saw this, I'm like, yeah, that's
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: that could be a problem.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say, Like, like I mentioned earlier, people
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: tried to do polls to see if people were really upset.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: Every time it was like eighty percent positive. So they
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: kind of shut themselves in the foot. What else was
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: I gonna say? Oh yeah, the whole money thing. I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: kind of maybe got in myself in trouble a little bit.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: There's like an organizer like event type area of the discord,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: and someone there was pretty upset and the whole purpose
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: of it is to grow the game in the United
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: States basically, and to work together and do that. And
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: they wrote this huge, long complaint and they're kind of
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: the person that talks about how much money they spent,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: and so I was like, if you're talking to me personally,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that's not gonna win you my personal sympathy.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Like not talking for anyone else, I'm just telling you
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: don't go at that angle towards me. And then they said,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: I want this game to grow, so I sell my
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: rares really cheap at twenty five cents each so that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: more people can have the cards. And I responded, I
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: sell my rares for zero dollars in zero cents very
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: often if I have extra, so that people can play,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: and the they got very pissed, and they kept doubling
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: down about how they should not feel bad about spending
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: their money and it's their hobby and you know, their opinion,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: and I was like, I never said you can't have
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: your opinion, that's fine. You just sound really smug when
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: that's how you approach it. They did not like that.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: So if I disappear, it's because I made someone who's
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: a quote whale really upset.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in the US is keeping this
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: company afloat by any means the stretch of the imagination.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: So just remember, like I tell my kids, uh, you
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: gotta roll with the punches. You're allowed. You're allowed to
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: have your feelings. This is gonna make me sound like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: an answer. You're allowed to have your feelings, but your
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: feelings don't matter.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: But the world, the world that does not care about
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: your feelings.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely the person that's always going to care
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: for the greater good. I'm not going to worry about
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: what is best for me and me alone, and some
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: people won't agree with that, which is fine. But I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: also don't like when people say things in such like
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: definitive extremes like this is going to kill the game,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: this is the end, this is the downfall. I'm just like, WHOA,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: chill there. I'm perfectly happy, honestly sitting here. So I'm
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: still playing.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Well, the biggest thing I think I talked So there
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: is a gentleman. He runs a game store called Getty Games.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: And his name is Vince. He's a lawyer. He does
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: a lot in the Pokemon community. And I remember when
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: we were doing key Forge, he was going to start
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: doing the organized play for key Forge. Really good guy.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Him and his wife had a long talk because he's
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: been into a lot of different card games too, just
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: like I have. And he's always said that the health
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: of the game is the most important thing, and that
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: if you can make it past set three, you're in
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: one of the best situations that that a card game
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: could ever be in. And it sounds like we're going
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: to make it past set three.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: So I mean that was not true about Star Wars
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: at all. Said three was basically the death of it.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Well, if you can make it past set three, okay, right,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: you gotta make it. You got to make it past
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: set three and still be doing well? Is Star Wars
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: and doing pretty sure? Right now? Is that the deal.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: For it is not good doing as good as it
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: should be. But that's you know, Asthma Day, our favorite
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: company for the most part. But in uh In, in
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: regards to all of that and all of the you know,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: fire in the main discord, there was also a handful
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: of people that came back the next.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no no. Creator reacted Sorry,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: hold on, no creative chaos. I don't think Vince is
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: jumping in and altered. I was just say I was
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: giving some what do you call that, some wisdom that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: was passed to be along to everyone else. So calm down.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: But I think it's overall good. Yeah. I was just
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: gonna say, I think the community as a whole, it's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: overall good. The only thing I saw that of a
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: good amount of reasonable people wanted to be better was
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: the timing and the communication. What people want is they
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: want Altered to say, hey, we're watching these four cards,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: so watch out because we're probably going to suspend them
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: in the next two weeks or three weeks. I think
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: what people fail to realize is that just creates this
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: cycle for those three weeks. But maybe I'm wrong.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Only time will tell, right, and we'll have to we
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: will have to keep an eye on it. Let's get
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: into Patreon questions. Pretty much every week except for the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: last two, we've been taking some of the questions you
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: guys have been posting on our Patreon, and this week's
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: questions come from Draconis. So what is a needed feature
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: and Pie in the Sky feature each one of you
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: thinks Altered should have in the future that is not
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: a known implementation.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Like a feature on BGA. I'm just just thinking as
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: a game.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just in general, like.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Pie in the Sky, Marketplace is going to be great. Yeah,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: that's coming up.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: But that's known.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Wow, this is actually kind of a tough one. I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: should have read this one beforehand. A needed feature and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: a Pie in the Sky feature. Each one of you think, oh, okay,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Pie in the Sky, right. I do think we kind
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: of talked about this and this is truly truly Pie
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: in the Sky that after set three I would have
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: said before this set. But each set they need to
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: take a good long look at each one of the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: heroes because this is one of the things that drives
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: me nuts about hero based and like faction based games,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: saw it a lot in Flesh and Blood, there's always
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: some heroes that just they see no love and if
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: you want to be competitive, you just can't play them.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: Do some sort of tweak or re balancing to make
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: each hero somewhat viable in the current meta. Pie in
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: the Sky, that's true, honest to goodness, Pie in the
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Sky it goes against everything they talked about in this
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: most recent article, because you're literally going to be a
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: rotting heroes on like a setly basis. But Pie in
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: the Sky literally just balancing heroes so that each hero
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: could possibly have its own build that is somewhat viable
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: and competitive in the marketplace.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Can I steal an idea from someone else? Again at
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: locals that I actually really like, I don't see why not.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: They said that, you know that there's a slot for
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: hero and I mean, that's what's kind of useless after
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: you have all the heroes. But sure we can keep
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the loot for heroes and then then in the slot
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: for like boilers and tokens and a whole bunch of
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: cards that are generally useless. Give like a probability that
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: you can add a new card that is just a
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: unique reroll, and you can apply a Unique reroll to
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: your digital Unique card. It destroys that card and creates
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: a completely new Unique that's the same card, same faction,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: but rerolls the stats, rerolls the abilities, re rolls the supportabilities.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: So if you're not happy with the Unique that you have,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: you can destroy its digital existence forever and just create
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: a new one.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, someone mentioned that in the discord the other day.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: And while I think it is a hilarious and awesome idea,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: I think there's.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: One to be difficult for implementation.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think the implementation is hard. I think legally
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: it won't work. Oh, it is way more gambling than
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: anything else.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: And how is opening packs not gambling? Already?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: Listen, I don't make the laws. I'm just telling you
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of countries where they would.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say opening packs in a lot of
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: countries is considered gambling to a degree. And that's why
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: you will typically don't hear Magic ever talk about the
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: secondary market. And they really don't even acknowledge it. Like
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: they won't acknowledge a secondary market because if they acknowledge
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: that the cards and the packs have money and that
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: you're basically spending a little money at the chance to
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: get a lot of money, it's just a slot machine
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: for children, and so like Magic doesn't even like they
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: won't even like they're like secondary market, these cards have value. Oh,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: we just we just make a game for kids. We
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: don't we don't know what.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Exists. Pokemon cards exist. They don't announce the secondary market exists.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Either what psa grading never heard of her? We don't
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: know what you're talking about, Like this, this is a
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  Speaker 2: real thing that like exists, Like this is why, like
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: they don't talk about it. Pokemon does a really good
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: job at controlling their secondary market because a lot of
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: the times, like when a card gets too pricey, you'll
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: see them like release it in a starter deck.
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  Speaker 5: Oh and they do.
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  Speaker 2: And and the cards that have that are really really
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  Speaker 2: pricey are always ones that and they do a good
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: job again of it because like they'll really like those
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: alt art foils and whatnot, Like there'll be a common
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  Speaker 2: version that you're able to play with, but it's just
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: it's different. Therefore it's like special, right Pokemon. Pokemon, I've
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: said this time and time again is like the best
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  Speaker 2: at controlling their secondary market prices. Okay, Like I remember,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember when was it Diagius was Elion
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Palkia was like a very metastaple card, and like it
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: was getting to reach that kind of ridiculous dollar amount
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: they made uh World Championships decks and you got three
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: of them in a starter deck for like twenty dollars,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: and like so they brought that cards costs way down.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Now these special alt art stained glass versions still holds
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: lots lots of its value. But like the but you
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: were able to play with that card in legal tournaments,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: you know, like I think like an s tire, like
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: a high end competitive Pokemon deck still to this day
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: is yeah, about two hundred bucks an under.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: So my answers. So there's already going to be tournament software.
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  Speaker 4: It's supposed to be built into the website. I'm I
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  Speaker 4: promise you it's not going to come out when you
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: want it, because if you if you are in tune
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  Speaker 4: with other TCG tournaments right now, Melee is the new
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: software that a lot are using. Everyone are a ton
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: of complaints about Melee, and I will say, from personal
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: experience judging the Dallas PQ, it deleted an entire round
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  Speaker 4: of results for us, So be patient. Tournament software is
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  Speaker 4: tricky and it's going to take time. But when it
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  Speaker 4: comes out, I would love to have statistics, because I
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: love stats. I'm a stats guy. Other thing I would
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: say is I think it would be cool to have
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: alternate costume or art heroes, but I also understand that
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: that is very costly, and the game's going to have
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: to become pretty successful because Altered pays specific artists to.
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  Speaker 2: Do the art, and that it already has to be
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: pretty pricey. Yes, because imagine the Common has an art,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: and then the Rare Hazard art, and then the Unique
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: has an art. You've got like three arts for every
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: card almost.
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  Speaker 4: But I think anything else I would want has already
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  Speaker 4: been announced. I mean, I want a good judge program
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't try to sell a Judge kit for one
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: hundred and thirty dollars and it sells out in ten minutes.
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  Speaker 4: But that'll that'll come with time.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: So all right, next question, if you were a character
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  Speaker 2: and Altered, who would you be.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Like one that already exists in the game.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: I'm guessing I'm guessing already exists. So yeah, Dracuness says
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: in the game is also in the live audience. Shout
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: out to the live audience. Appreciate you all, it's nice
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  Speaker 4: to have you here. Uh easy, Mine is Alo, super easy.
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  Speaker 4: Uh you look at the card for Alo. That dude
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: is fucking chilling zipping a beverage and there's probably no
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: greater uh picture of me. I am unbothered, just chilling
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: and I love my beverages.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, this is a hard question for me. I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: honestly really like Achilles. He doesn't do a whole lot,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: but I just like the mythology of Achilles and just
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: being a decent guy with toughness.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, adventurer, I'm gonna go with. Like his lore, I'm
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: gonna go with.
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  Speaker 2: So. I'm not an actual character. I'm a background character.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: I am the little snow demons.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: You're the snowman.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the snowman demons.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: In Scotty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Is there a unique art for Scotty. I gotta find this.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there is, but yeah, it may seem I
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: do host all of all the shows, but I am
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: definitely a background character. And I love creating chaos and
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: I love to play your most hated deck, which is
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: why in twenty twenty five I will be building I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: use mere lockout deck. I don't know how it's going
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: to happen yet, but I'll find a way.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: There are six snow demons on the Unique Scottie.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: And they're so cute. Oh I guess I'm kind of
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: cute too. So yeah, so my wife tells me, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'll run with it.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: But wonder all right.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: I believe With that being said, I want to thank
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: everybody in the audience again tonight. I want to thank
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: my two lovely co hosts for joining me for another
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: week of Altered Corner.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: And before we leave, we're going to talk about events
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: real quick.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, go through I'll go through it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If I totally forgot about events, go for it.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no worries, this will be super quick. A Wall
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: returns on Monday and Wednesday, so if this comes out
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: on Tuesday, the European time will have kicked off on
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: the Monday before, and if you're listening to this before
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: Wednesday night, you'll be able to hop into a Wall.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: There will now be consistent streams on a Wall dedicated
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: Twitch channel, and you may or may not see me
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: there from time to time. And then Keelan Guys bi
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Weekly is also this week on Tuesday. It usually ends
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: two to three hours before ACE, but ACE is in
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: our break period currently. And then I have worded from
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: Keelan Guy that something new and exciting will probably replace
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: the bi weekly but him and Pandy Andy are cooking
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: up something lots to look forward to on the event space.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: And always go to altered corner dot com to see
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: local events in Texas and you can yell at me
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: if I am missing any on that calendar.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: And we can always add him. Maybe who else, But
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: with that being said, we will see y'all next week